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I think what they meant was how unaffected the kids were of other kids around them as they seemed to naturally fit in with them and enjoy, this is why she told the story of how a kid asked her if she knew MJ. :)

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After watching that video, it should be 100% crystal clear to everyone that MJ is alive.

Just listen to the reaction of the reporters:

George Stephanopoulos:  "You can tell, at least from the appearances, Robin, they’re amazingly unaffected by all this."

Robin Roberts:  "I was just taken aback."

Why are they so shocked? Because the kids are "amazingly unaffected by all this." "All this" being the presumed "death" of their father. It should be obvious that MJ has been with his kids throughout all of the hoax. That's why they're so "well-adjusted."

In a previous interview Paris said before 2009 they were covered in public so that nobody knew what they looked like, so that they could go out in public in freedom without being mobbed, which was very smart of MJ, although the public didn't understand it back then, and thought it was just one more "weird" thing about MJ. But then right before he "died" he let the world see the kids with him so that everyone would know what they look like. This seems to be part of the plan, too. The kids are so impressive, so mature way beyond their years, and that in itself disproves the idea that MJ was "weird." It proves that MJ has always been exactly the kind of father that the kids say. It proves the truth and disproves the lies. It restores MJ's good name for the public to see and to hear from the kids.

Think you're on to something.. Good point :)

Michael Jackson News / Re: Pearls documentary on mj hoax- google news MJ
« on: February 24, 2011, 11:07:16 AM »
Here is the article itself:
Investigative journalist, Pearl Jr, explores the possibility that Michael Jackson faked his death


Sounds Crazy But Watch This!

The announcement that Michael Jackson died shocked the world on June 25, 2009 as he prepared for his record-breaking 50-date ComeBack performances at AEG’s London O2 Arena. Many believe the timing of his death to be suspicious, coupled with the recording of his rehearsals in high-tech high-definition video and the FACT that AEG owner, Philip Anschutz, owns more movie theaters than anyone else in the world. All this leads to the worldwide release of the highest-grossing musical documentary in history, “This Is It” just months later.

But this is simply the tip of the iceberg when examining the death or many would say the disappearance of the King of Pop. Just like with Elvis and other superstars such as Jim Morrison and Tupac Shakur, the fantasy that somehow someway they faked their death leaves them forever alive in the minds of millions. But with Michael Jackson, could he have possibly upped the ante and really faked his death just to shock the world and truly have the BIGGEST COMEBACK IN WORLD HISTORY?

“Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” is a see it to believe it documentary produced by independent journalist Pearl Jr. who covered Michael Joe Jackson’s 2005 child molestation trial. Pearl Jr. along with her partner, Cecil Holmes of Elbow Grease Productions, released the first documentary film that detailed the FACTS of that case. Now she has diligently investigated the possibility that Michael Jackson played a death hoax on the world by planning, executing and convincing the world that he has died in a most ridiculous manner—at the hands of an incompetent cardiologist who allegedly over-administered the anesthetic propofol in Michael’s home and didn’t know CPR to resuscitate him.

One must be prepared and open-minded for this most fascinating documentary that dives into the FACTS surrounding the missing Michael Jackson. The last photo of Michael in the ambulance will be proven to be faked, and is the ONLY photo evidence of Jackson in distress. Over a year after MJ’s “death”, there is no name on his grave, the preliminary hearing never confirmed the body in question was in FACT that of Michael Joe Jackson’s, and a note confirmed to be written and released by the King of Pop in May 2009 stating, “See You In July 2011” confirms this possibility is REAL.

If one needs more titillating information to watch this jaw-dropping documentary, here’s just one more clue out of hundreds. There was a book published on June 24, 2009 that focused on the death of Michael Jackson, just one day before the King of Pop vanished.

“Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” delivers proof, evidence, and ridiculous slip-ups that will be the talk of the water cooler for those who have the courage to speak about the possibility that Michael Jackson faked his death.

This see it for yourself documentary is something one must see to believe. After all, the main reason for any disagreement is because someone doesn’t know what the other knows. The Michael Jackson “beLIEvers” are vast, worldwide and thought to be crazy, but after seeing all the information presented in “Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” people will completely understand why hoards of MJ fans believe that Michael Joe Jackson isn’t dead, but planned the biggest ComeBack in world history.

“Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” is a worldwide DVD, on-demand, digital release available on March 1, 2011. It’s a MUST-SEE!

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Michael Jackson News / Pearls documentary on mj hoax- google news MJ
« on: February 24, 2011, 10:59:02 AM »
I think my post disappeared. I had posted an article from google news. If you google new mj, it shows an article on mj hoaxing his death and mentions pearl's documentary based on 'her' investigations.
Here's the link again: this link shows the searches on google news MJ
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Haha,Hollywood and broke....
Yes, California is THE most expensive state in America, very expensive!

Yup it's actually said that you pay high prices for the sun and beaches :)

TMZ Articles / Re: Dr. Murray Dodged Wrongful Death Lawsuit in 2007
« on: February 17, 2011, 09:36:06 AM »
I think someone took the game 'operation' a lil too seriously :$
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 real doctors act more real and professional and know CPR

Umm yah, totally staged! He actions and expressions are wayyy too dramatic for a professional lawyer but not for an actor. Have you seen celebrity/ Hollywood actors give interviews?? Whateverrrrr@ them for trying make fools of us :$

The Hoax Mentioned In The Media / Re: Media Offer from Wonderwall Magazine
« on: February 14, 2011, 09:00:41 PM »
Plz make sure you do your research Souza before you take any step.
Good luck !

General Hoax Talk / Re: Non-Believer
« on: February 02, 2011, 09:57:39 PM »
wow good job guys! I'm very proud of this believers community. we have heard often that when believers go to non-believer sites, they are made fun of, harsh words are used etc etc but you all welcomed somebody from that side and gave her a chance to speak her mind. well done :) keep up the good work and maybe they will learn from this.

The Bible References / Re: Bloodied Shirt In Wardrobe Recap
« on: January 27, 2011, 05:07:34 PM »
Thank you! I thought I was the onlyone who thought there's no 999 in this shirt photo. It's 3.99.
Although I don't believe the murder theory but could it be that MJ indeed was needled in a lot which caused bleeding- I'm not saying a needle can cause all this bleeding but when I was in surgery, I was put on a iv drip and when it came off, it bled till the nurse put pressure on it with cotton. Now MJ autopsy report says there were several needle marks on his body, so maybe this shirt was used to clean blood from all those marks. His could also work with any body that could have or was used for the hoax. I honestly don't see the 999 stuff. Sorry buy that's jay me'. You guys have your own opinions :)

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First up ...some silly thoughts...Murrey went to the toilet as he has stated and that is when MJ imposter was supposed to sit up and self inject more propofol. Maybe Murrey decided to have a shave while in the bathroom before meeting his girlfriend or going to visit a prostitute [ according to Geraldine Hughs] and he cut himself shaving, grabbed a new white t shirt to stop the nick bleeding which got thrown in the cupboard in the scramble to clean the room when alvarez and murrey were stashing used propoferol bottles.
No, honestly, I don't think it has any relevance at all except the price tag of $9.99. which applies to TIAI and the overall plan to turn 666 into 999. So why did it appear to have blood on it? To draw our attention. It was a guest room also and Michael was always a sharp dresser and I'm sure even his t-shirts would have been of better quality.
The pricetag said $3.99 :D

Michael Jackson News / Re: Police searching for missing tapes
« on: January 26, 2011, 12:33:25 AM »
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Sorry to break it you but this is an Indian gosspi website and a wannabe tmz like. Being originally from India, I can assure you there as many such online tabloid sites. Trust me, I wouldn't believe this news, unless TMZ had it on there too and this site just copy pasted stuff. But media in India is known to make stuff up. Isn't it odd that they know about it in India and we in America don't know the tapes are being found again. I can try to find more such baseless articles to prove my point. Will post as soon as I find it.
PS- masala in English means spice. Such online tabloids add spice to gossip to sell. Just saying...

Souza, no disrespect but I might be crazy too coz this does make sense in a weird way! Imagine the faces of non- believers if this is the case :$

Michael Jackson News / Re: Analyzing Chopra interview CNN
« on: January 22, 2011, 10:40:47 PM »
G. CHOPRA: 'In the 20 years I knew him he was never on time for anything so my money is on this not starting on time.'

Not sure what he meant by this.. Can anyone explain here plz? Many thx guys :)

TMZ Discussion / Re: A cordiologist told TMZ Michael is dead ?
« on: January 22, 2011, 10:28:20 PM »
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Thank you for the information sk2001

Your welcome sweety :)

TMZ Discussion / Re: A cordiologist told TMZ Michael is dead ?
« on: January 22, 2011, 03:01:59 PM »
I found this article that discusses the death certificate! No where does it say a valid dc can be signed by a relative. Infact it is only valid if the doctor/ surgeon incharge signs it. It talks about how people can create fake documents for fake deaths.
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A death certificate is the official document that declares a person is dead. Death certificates serve two purposes: they prevent murder cover-ups by restricting those who can complete them for non-natural deaths to trained officials who generally have great latitude on whom they perform postmortem examinations, and they provide public health statistics. Death registration was first required in the United Kingdom in 1874. Before then, it was not even necessary for a physician to view the corpse. In the United States, Great Britain, and most industrialized countries, physicians must now sign a death certificate listing the presumed cause of death. Otherwise, a medical examiner (forensic pathologist) will intervene with an autopsy to determine the cause of death in the event that a case requires police investigation.

People use death certificates in multiple ways. Survivors need death certificates to obtain burial permits, make life insurance claims, settle estates, and obtain death benefits. Public health departments look for patterns that may signal specific health problems, such as clusters of cancers that may reveal unknown toxic waste dumps.

There are three types of death certificates in the United States, including a standard certificate, one for medical/legal cases, and one for fetal or stillborn deaths. All but two states require a death certificate for fetal deaths. However, the majority of states only require a certificate if the fetus was past twenty weeks of gestation. All are based on the international form agreed to in 1948 (modified for clarity in the United States in the 1990s). This form lists the immediate cause of death (e.g., heart attack, stroke), conditions that resulted in the immediate cause of death (e.g., gunshot wound to the chest), and other significant medical conditions (e.g., hypertension, atherosclerotic coronary artery disease, or diabetes). The form also includes a place to record whether an autopsy was performed and the manner of death such as natural, accident, suicide, homicide, could not be determined, or pending investigation.

Death certificates are occasionally used to fake a person's death for insurance fraud and to evade law enforcement officials or irate relatives. "Official" Los Angeles County death certificates, for example, were readily available in the mid-1990s for between $500 and $1,000 each. For fraudulent purposes, people have often used death certificates from remote nations and from countries in turmoil.

To complete death certificates, funeral directors first insert the decedent's personal information, including the name, sex, date of death, social security number, age at last birthday, birth date, birthplace, race, current address, usual occupation, educational history, service in the U.S. armed forces, site and address of death, marital status, name of any surviving spouse, parents' names, and informant's name and address. They also include the method and site of body disposition (burial, cremation, donation, or other) and sign the form. The responsible physician must then complete, with or without using an autopsy, his or her sections of the certificate. These include the immediate cause(s) of death; other significant conditions contributing to the death; the manner of death; the date, time, place, and mechanism of any injury; the time of death; the date the death was pronounced; whether the medical examiner was notified; and his or her signature. The death certificate then passes to the responsible local and state government offices, where, based on that document, a burial permit is issued. The death certificate, or at least the information it contains, then goes to the state's bureau of vital statistics and from there to the United States Center for Health Statistics.

Funeral directors often struggle to obtain a physician's signature on a death certificate. In an age of managed-care HMOs and multispecialty clinics, they must not only locate the busy practitioner for a signature, but also identify the correct physician. Survivors cannot bury or otherwise dispose of a corpse until a licensed physician signs a permanent death certificate or a medical examiner signs a temporary death certificate. Medical examiners (or coroners) list the cause of death as "pending" until further laboratory tests determine the actual cause of death. Except in unusual cases, disposition of the remains need not wait for the final autopsy report, which may take weeks to complete.

After the death certificate has been signed, local authorities usually issue a certificate of disposition of remains, also known as a burial or cremation permit. Crematories and cemeteries require this form before they will cremate or bury a body. In some jurisdictions, the form is combined with a transportation permit that allows the movement or shipment of a body. The need for regulation of death certificates became evident in 1866. When New York City first installed an independent Board of Health in March 1866, city police inspected the offices of F. I. A. Boole, the former city inspector. According to the New York Times, police found a large number of unnumbered burial permits, which Boole had already signed. They claimed that Boole had been selling these to murderers who used them to legally bury their victims' bodies.

Public health policies depend heavily on the mortality data from death certificates because they are the only source of information about the causes of death and illnesses preceding death. For example, when Italy's Del Lazio Epidemiological Observatory reviewed 44,000 death certificates, it found that most diseases divided neatly along class lines. The poor died of lung tumors, cirrhosis of the liver, respiratory diseases, and "preventable deaths" (appendicitis, childbirth complications, juvenile hypertension, and acute respiratory infections). Well-to-do women had higher rates of breast cancer. It also found that the incidence of heart disease, strokes, and some cancers did not vary with income level. These findings have had a significant impact on how the Italian government funds its health care system.

Yet the accuracy of death certificates in the United States is questionable, with up to 29 percent of physicians erring both as to the cause of death and the deceased's age. About the same number incorrectly state whether an autopsy was done. Less significant discrepancies occur in listing the deceased's marital status, race, and place of birth. Death certificates of minority groups have the most errors. Only about 12 percent of U.S. physicians receive training in completing death certificates, and less than two-thirds of them do it correctly. Several do not appear to believe that completing death certificates accurately is very important.

Many certificates are meaningless because physicians complete them without knowing the real cause of death. Listing "cardiopulmonary arrest" signifies nothing—everyone's heart and lungs eventually stop. The important point is why? An autopsy is often needed to answer this question. Occasionally, autopsy, pathology, or forensic findings appear after a death certificate has been completed. If it is within three years of the death in many jurisdictions, the original physician-signer need only complete an amended certificate to correct the record.

Disguising deaths from alcoholism, AIDS, and other stigmatizing causes of death on death certificates is widespread. This practice appears to be more common where medical examiners' autopsy reports are part of the public record. For this reason, some states may eliminate the cause of death from publicly recorded death certificates.

Physicians obscure information on some death certificates to protect a family's reputation or income, with listings such as "pneumonia" for an AIDS death or "accidental" for a suicide. Even before the AIDS epidemic, one researcher found that in San Francisco, California, socially unacceptable causes of death frequently were misreported—the most common being alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, alcoholism, syphilis, homicide, and suicide.

A similar problem with the accuracy of death certificates has been reported in Great Britain. The Royal College of Physicians of London claims that 20 percent of British death certificates incorrectly list the cause of death. In one instance, for example, the number of reported suicides at Beachy Head (a popular spot at which to commit suicide by jumping into the sea) diminished by one-third simply with a change in coroners.

Physicians who complete death certificates in good faith are not liable to criminal action, even if the cause of death is later found to be different from that recorded. Fraudulent completion to obscure a crime or to defraud an insurance company, however, is a felony.

Occasionally, fake death certificates appropriate real people's identities. Such false death certificates are especially distasteful to victims of this fraud who are still alive and whose "death" causes officials to freeze their assets, cancel credit, revoke licenses, and generally disrupt their lives.

Deaths that occur aboard ships are handled very differently. For example, British captains register any crew or passenger death in the ship's log, the information approximating that on a death certificate. On arrival at a British port, the captain must report the death to harbor authorities, who then investigate the circumstances.

Death certificates and other standard legal papers surrounding death normally cost between $1 and $5 each. The funeral director usually obtains these forms and itemizes their costs on the bill. In cases where a body must be shipped to a non-English-speaking country, the forms must often be translated at an additional cost.

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