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« on: March 31, 2012, 03:39:16 AM »
I recognized it too, was easy to find. :icon_neutral:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfAAO7PfJLM[/youtube]
Aw, you've found the video message!!! :smiley_abuv: @Gina, be harsh with pikachu cause she/he confused the two of us, so it's even worse than illogical! :icon_lol: I told her/him a few pages ago that she/he is me, in a joke, of course, and yesterday thought it was you. :icon_e_smile: Anyway, love you both!
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« on: March 30, 2012, 05:08:15 PM »
Guys, is this Michael? And is this an old voice message of him?
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Sounds like MJ in his 90s to me...
Did we hear this message of him before? Because I found it on twitter and it was posted just a couple of days ago! The person who posted it says that he is Michael. I don't believe in trojan horse jockeys but the voice message made me go hmmmm. :suspect:
Hard to say if I heard before this particular message cause it contains MJ's very common words adressed to his fans through many recorded messages on different occasions...
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« on: March 30, 2012, 04:13:36 PM »
Guys, is this Michael? And is this an old voice message of him?
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Register or Login Sounds like MJ in his 90s to me... @Pikachu, lucky you! :icon_lol:
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« on: March 30, 2012, 03:38:54 PM »
LOL, @pikachu, @Gina can't be you, cause you are me, and I am not @Gina! :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Kidding... this situation is really funny, sorry, I could not help to not comment this. :TongueOutSmiley:
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« on: March 30, 2012, 03:23:07 PM »
I don't believe in a hoax without a comeback - the ultimate proof. My hero is not a coward, he fights for his rights. Either he comes back, or he's dead.
For me the deadline is June 25, 2013 plus 1 day.
1 day of simmering  .
I agree - he's dead if he's not coming back :icon_cry:.
If the time limit expires and he won't be back we'll still be busy a few years trying to figure out how the hell happened all those coincidences we took for clues.
Hopefully it won't be the case.
people you are weird.
even if he wouldn't come back (but i'm sure he IS about to do this),
the statement 'no bam? so he is dead' contradicts the common sense as such.
for who, being in sound mind, could ignore the facts we've been collecting here for almost 3 years?
are you so unsure about your own intellectual abilities? c'mon...
unless you may say 'either he comes back, or he is dead FOR ME!' 
he-he.)
I'm pretty sure he'll be back too, pikachu. And I said it correct, I don't believe in a hoax without a comeback because: 1. Murray is in prison 2. MJ did not clear his name so he can enjoy his hiding/new life 3. He has big dreams to furfill (as Michael Jackson, not an alias), like movies. You can blame it all you want on my intellectual abilities - if he's not coming back this will be a proof to me that he is dead and not a quitter or as someone here misunderstood my words and said I called MJ a coward.
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« on: March 30, 2012, 08:12:30 AM »
And if he doest bam? Will we stop to support him? We don't know what is going on behind the scenes and we don't know Michaels' plans. What if there was a change in the plans for some reasons we should not know, will we then stop to support him? I belong to those who were thinking that MJ will never bam. But since TS assured it then I am accepting it. But now I see people worried about MJ's reappearance as if supporting him is based on his BAM!!!!! Wouldn't this sadden him??? As I said what if he changed his plans and postponed his BAM?? Would people still support him? He has the full freedom to BAM today, tomorrow or even after two years! All he needs is time and patience from our side, nothing more nothing less!!!
You support him? HOW?
You think you support him more than the non-beLIEvers? HOW?
I'm not whining and crying each time bam time is discussed! I am not giving him a deadline!!! That is some kind of support in my opinion
Nobody gives him deadlines. He asked for 4 years.
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« on: March 30, 2012, 07:26:30 AM »
And if he doest bam? Will we stop to support him? We don't know what is going on behind the scenes and we don't know Michaels' plans. What if there was a change in the plans for some reasons we should not know, will we then stop to support him? I belong to those who were thinking that MJ will never bam. But since TS assured it then I am accepting it. But now I see people worried about MJ's reappearance as if supporting him is based on his BAM!!!!! Wouldn't this sadden him??? As I said what if he changed his plans and postponed his BAM?? Would people still support him? He has the full freedom to BAM today, tomorrow or even after two years! All he needs is time and patience from our side, nothing more nothing less!!!
You support him? HOW? You think you support him more than the non-beLIEvers? HOW?
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« on: March 30, 2012, 06:54:48 AM »
I don't believe in a hoax without a comeback - the ultimate proof. My hero is not a coward, he fights for his rights. Either he comes back, or he's dead.
For me the deadline is June 25, 2013 plus 1 day.
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« on: March 26, 2012, 10:21:16 PM »
I must be blind cause I see nothing hoaxy in this article's information.
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« on: March 26, 2012, 09:55:09 PM »
I couldn't resist posting this snippet from Monty Python's "Life of Brian" at this point. Sorry...a tongue in cheek moment from me - I adore Monty Python humour from way back.
8-) :lol: :lol:
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:lol: :lol: Made my morning! This is so funny... too funny! They sure got it right: "she" is a virgin and he is the Messiah. geek/ This "discover the man you never knew" sounds to me more like advertisement for the product TII and not so much what beLIEvers like to think.
It was unprecedented that the subtitle was changed in the course of the campaign from
"Like you've never seen him before"
to
"Discover the man you never knew".
Isn't the same message? Do you see more in it?
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« on: March 25, 2012, 08:49:01 PM »
Imo the reasons for Michael to fake his death were: money, safety-protection from extortion, and to protect his kids. "Cleaning" his image is crucial for his kids to have a less stressful life. Michael was not the mega star any more due to the accusations he suffered. He was hated and criticized by the same society that once loved him.
By his death many "old" fans reached him again and new ones emerged, discovering the man we never knew...and still don´t.
We can't blame him because he wants back what was stolen from him all those years when all he wanted was to express himself through his art. He unjustly lost a lot, and so did his fans. I say he should go for it and take back everything that's his! I'm glad he found the means to do it. This "discover the man you never knew" sounds to me more like advertisement for the product TII and not so much what beLIEvers like to think. It's not logical at all that the man MJ would really want to be discovered. Mystery is atractive for some and once he becomes an open book, the public may lose their interest for him. Michael is a keen manipulator and in my opinion he would not make such a mistake. But who knows, maybe he will come up with something new in this field too. P.S.: I hope he makes a lot of money so he can build that "MJ children's hospital" he dreams of.
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« on: March 25, 2012, 04:08:40 PM »
It makes total sense diggyon, thanks for your post. You know I knew that was your platform, I just forgot, I'm sorry. We all have such a varied background and we are all such a diverse mix that I lose track of everyone's individual beliefs from time to time.
To answer your question, I am skeptical about this theory, or at least how much of the total hoax goal the EOW stuff encompasses. I hope you understand what I'm awkwardly trying to convey. Do I believe that MJ believes in the EOW? Almost certainly. Do I believe he hoaxed his death in order to warn people? No, I don't think so. At least not as the primary purpose of the hoax anyway.
I think the primary reason is because it will shock people and no one has ever done it before (Unprecedented! World's First! Will Go Down In History!), and it will entertain the heck out of people as well, they just don't know they're being entertained yet. They think they are voyeurs into this giant circus of Michael Jackson's Death. What they don't know is that the entire thing is choreographed by the greatest showman on earth. In achieving these goals (Shocking! Groundbreaking!a new twist on the genera of reality entertainment) he will also teach the world the greatest lesson in awareness in history; the media LIES to you/don't believe everything you see in the "news". Equally as important, there seems to be an underground, currently ongoing effort to arrange for MJ's name to be cleared of the chi-mo allegations once and for all-although we have not gotten to that act yet. Coming Up Next (?)!
I bolded the part above because as I was writing this post, it occurred to me that our theories have a common element that links them that I never saw when I debated these points before. Holy cow, this is interesting to me. The media is the propaganda machine controlled by the element you refer to here:
diggyon:
I also believe that these signs will be caused by those who want to take control over our world to create chaos and enslave the world population to gain power. By raising awareness these people can be stopped (V for Vendetta).
So if he emasculates the media, by showing people how easily they can be fooled; shocking people so thoroughly and deeply that it plants a seed of doubt in their minds in regards to what they see on TV forever more from that day... he cuts off the propaganda machine, currently enjoying unquestioned authority over society through the boob-tube, at the knees.
Who knew these 2 theories could be connected in such complimentary fashion?? That's pretty interesting.
Great post! I can't wait to see the making of the hoax, in its every detail.
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« on: March 25, 2012, 12:40:21 PM »
What do you mean by "discover"?
No one of us really knows how Michael really is! I don't think we will get to know his real character on a forum even if he is orchestrating the whole hoax. At least this is my humble opinion! "Discover the man you never knew" on the cover of TII; beLIEvers take it as an invitation to know the real man who is behind the character Michael Jackson, but I think this could be misinterpreted...? :roll:
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« on: March 25, 2012, 12:23:17 PM »
Actually I don't believe she cashes in (is this how it looks this verb at 3rd person? confused/) that much; lately she's complaining that the proceeds are low and that she might stop her investigation, and get a job somewhere instead.
I don't believe she is involved in the hoax.
Someone in the Jackson family (I think it was Jermaine) once said that if they'd have to sue everyone who write books, etc. about them, they would not have time for anything else, so...
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« on: March 25, 2012, 12:00:11 PM »
But we have made some progress though! Now we discuss the issue that Michael is the Messiah or an angel sent from heaven!!!!!! :lol: :lol: Isn't this discussion fed by the messages of an insider? @Gina, diggyon said that, I don't agree. I need to know more than just the message, especially when it costs me so much time till I'll find out how pure is the WHOLE message. About "discover the man you never knew"... what if this means to discover the creative man, the man who is behind the creative process, the one who is creating his character on the stage? I keep asking myself why would a man - who LOVES to be mysterious, why would he wanna be an open book to the world?! What if the invitation "discover the man you never knew" is reduced to only knowing his creative side and not more?
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