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« on: April 14, 2010, 02:00:13 PM »
Well, it's very simple.
In the first case (Dangerous) he's involved as Michael Joseph Jackson, the artist, and in the second one as Michael Joe Jackson, his private and real name.
Wow, I never thought of it that way, but you might be right!
You & me both, Kuki!!! Hmmm...now that's an :idea: (In the light of which, the video where TMZ addresses the question regarding "Joe versus Joseph" makes more sense too!) Tks, MJJ1982; much appreciated  L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 14, 2010, 01:00:24 PM »
Hmmm...Interesting & thought-provoking topic (even if it isn't "all-that-pleasant/comfortable" to contemplate)...Quite similar to another one as well-Have a look here: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login. Anyways, here's hoping that we ALL find THE answers that we seek SOON... L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 14, 2010, 02:16:35 AM »
Yes, TIAI.com/TS, We (well, MOST of us anyway!) couldn't possibly ignore the aforementioned "MJ-TMZ connection" ( regardless of what our individual opinions on the "exact nature of the relationship" may be!) here even if we tried!  Any particular reason for the continual repetition/ EMPHASIS :?: I mean, should we should be anticipating/expecting "even BIGGER" things from there in the near future ... :?: :!: :?:  :lol:  L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 11:06:11 PM »
Okies, here it is, my final attachment & my "masterpiece" too (Sorry TMZ, I "borrowed" & re-modified your "composite" composition! But only for a good cause-"strictly educational" purposes )... :lol: [attachment=0:37l82p5o]TMZ6.jpg[/attachment:37l82p5o] My POINT, here being SIMPLY that the human mind (& NOT just those of "geniuses", "visionaries", "seers", "nutcases" & "devious manipulators" too; generally OVERALL!) is FAR MORE CAPABLE than we usually give it credit for. What I mean to say is that it is because I had a somewhat rough idea that there was maybe MORE (subtle, hidden "meanings" etc) to the photo (other than what is clearly OBVIOUS of course ), my mind took pity on me (combined & enhanced by a fair bit of work from my eyes, from trying to squint in different ways :lol:) & showed me what I wanted to see! Remember the backwards/reverse songs (what the heck is the official term for it, anyway!) too? I think it works in the same way here. The power of suggestion is INDEED quite STRONG in more ways than one. The "interpretation of stimuli" is TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE; MOSTLY depending on the eyes/ears of the beholder (shaped by the 'exposure to the environment' too, of course ) Pleas DON'T misunderstand me (& take off my head for this)! I'm NOT trying to debunk the idea TOTALLY/ridicule it/saying that there that there just cannot be "more" to the picture (& the "songs" too) than what meets the eye/ear directly!!! I'm just saying that maybe we should focus MORE tangibly 'objective' stuff etc. For arguments' sake at least I'd take good old "word play" over whazzits with "imagery" any day!!! :lol: 8-) Just expressing/sharing a thought, no biggie! Keep in mind that I'm still the loony who spent hours last night "making eyes" at one photo- ARRRRRRRG, DARN you TMZ :!: :x :roll: :oops: :lol: (And, if you are wondering, Yes, I've been called ODD-STRANGE-WEIRD & then some UNANIMOUSLY, in one breath, more than once, but the only way I know how to do things is MY way-a.k.a HOPELESS case!) Hey, don't go feeling all "awwwwwwwww" on me now either!!! :lol: Sorry for the eyesore & Peace, ok? L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 09:53:14 PM »
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And now, to quote good old TMZ here :
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L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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Zisis did you notice on the left top corner of this picture something strange ? I can see at least 2 faces (V for Vendetta mask and another that I can't figure out. Zoom it you will surely see it too. What do you think ? Because the more I see it the more I see things, yesterday I was watching again and I saw more things... something that looks like a pig mask...yes :? , a wolf :roll: and maybe maybe a spider :roll: :roll: ...well I'm more than confused :? :? :? :?
I see a little green face peaking out also! :lol: :lol: :lol:
No seriously, I do! Sarahli, I think you should know that I SUCK with two things (Or just am "lousiest" with these two especially! ). One: Numbers & Two: "Fine" details. But since you asked (& because I'm insomniac & was up alone too ), I've tried here. NOW, THOSE OF YOU WHO TREASURE & WANNA HANG ON TO THE VESTIGES OF PATIENCE/SANITY YOU HAVE LEFT, PLEASE KEEP YOUR EYES AVERTED/CLOSED & SKIP THE FOLLOWING TOTALLY, OK? :lol: :lol: So here goes nothing & DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED IN ADVANCE :!: :!: :!: [attachment=4:81f4j34k]TMZ1.jpg[/attachment:81f4j34k] [attachment=3:81f4j34k]TMZ2.jpg[/attachment:81f4j34k] [attachment=2:81f4j34k]TMZ3.jpg[/attachment:81f4j34k] [attachment=1:81f4j34k]TMZ4.jpg[/attachment:81f4j34k] [attachment=0:81f4j34k]TMZ5.jpg[/attachment:81f4j34k] And, because there's a limit of 5 attachments per comment, PLEASE indulge me & bear with me on JUST one more attachment (I promise! :mrgreen:) in the next post, ok? Many thanks L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 05:17:38 PM »
WHAT STANDS OUT TO ME IN THAT TMZ PICTURE ASIDE FROM THE REST OF THE FUNNY THINGS IS SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS OF COURSE HE'S USING SPECIAL WEAPONS AND TACTICS TO FIGHT BACK THIS MAN IS A GENIUS. cin_pyt, I think you are a bit of a genius yourself to point this out too. Thanks & I really appreciate the "oh-so-unladylike" guffaws (thank God no one is here to hear them! ) this gave me!!! :lol: :lol: L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 02:25:16 PM »
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« on: April 13, 2010, 12:40:15 PM »
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« on: April 13, 2010, 12:14:02 PM »
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« on: April 13, 2010, 09:35:04 AM »
I am glad that you bring this up. I had to read that comment of his twice because it does have a scent of sarcasm. It's as if he was saying "Love you (crazy and nutty) people." :lol:
"So we do a poll - ummm... 55% of the people think he's still alive *Laughs*
"Love it, Love you people."
Is it me, or does he sound sarcastic?
CantGetEnoughMJ & GirlSaturday, BRAVO & THANK YOU VERY MUCH for having the courage to broach this "subject" up in here!!! L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 06:40:40 AM »
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Ankhesenamun
There is little known about Ankhesenamun (meaning “She lives through Amun” or “Living through Amun”). She was initially known through her birth name of Ankhesenpaaten (meaning “She lives through the Aten” or “Living through the Aten”) in her earlier years of life. Written, throughout history, are variations of her name as this was altered during her marriage to Tutankhamun. She was approximately thirteen years old when she married Tutankhamun who was most likely her half-brother. Tutankhamun was probably around eight years old at the time that this marriage occurred. This history timeline is known as the Amarna Period.
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The alteration of names for both Tutankhamun and Ankhesenamun occurred as they changed their form of worship from one God to another. Their reign initially included the worship of the God Aten (known as “The Sun-Disc) and this eventually changed to the worship of the God Amun (known as the “The Hidden One”). Sometimes Ankhesenamun is written as Ankhesenamon, Ankhesenamum, and other variations on the name.
What is known about Ankhesenamun is that she was born the third daughter of Akhenaten and Nefertiti. History tells us that there were at least six known daughters born to this famous couple; Meritaten, Meketaten, Ankhesenpaaten, Nefernefruaten ta-Sherit, Nefernefrure, and Setepenre. The first three daughters appear to have had a more prominent position in the family hierarchy as they are depicted more frequently in pictures than the last three daughters.
It appears that Akhenaten, Ankhesenamun’s father, may have attempted to father children with the first three eldest daughters. It is suggested that Ankhesenamun’s second eldest sister may have died giving child birth. This is deducted from a scene found in the royal tomb which portrays a vivid display of this occurrence (a woman dying due to child birth). It is almost likely that Akhenaten also fathered children from his other two daughter’s Meritaten and Ankhesenamun. Those children carried the names of their respective mothers with the addition of “ta-sherit” (junior) after their names. Including “ta-sherit” to the name of children who had the same name as their respective mothers, appeared to be the standard practice of that time.
As Nefertiti, Akhenaten’s queen, disappears from history, Akhenaten marries the eldest daughter Meritaten. She now becomes the Chief Queen after her mother Nefertiti. Also during Akhenaten’s reign he names Smenkhkare as co-regent (a person who would reign in conjunction with him). It was sometimes the practice of Kings or Pharoahs to name co-regents during their reign. Co-regents tended to be son’s or proposed heirs to the throne. During this time, Akhenaten decides to wed Meritaten (his daughter and current wife) to Smenkhkare for his wife. Akhenaten then takes Ankhesenamun, the third daughter, as his next new wife. Ankhesenamun now becomes the Chief wife of Akhenaten for a short period.
It appears that shortly after, both Meritaten and Akhenaten die and then Smenkhkare marries Ankhesenamun. History shows that they are married for approximately one to three years and then Smenkhkare also dies. Tutankhamun is named the next pharaoh and Ankhesenamun and Tutankhamun are then married. Although both are still children, Tutankhamun and Ankhesenamun go on to rule Egypt over the next ten years. During the ten years Ankhesenamun gives birth to two children (both girls). Both girls are born premature and die. One of the children is now known to have had a condition called Spengel’s deformity in conjunction with spina bifida and scoliosis. The two mummy encasements were found during the excavation of Tutankhamun’s tomb.
During their reign, history shows that Tutankhamun had an official adviser named Ay who most likely was the grandfather of Ankhesenamun. In addition, it seems that Ay most likely took advantage of the fact that both Tutankhamun and Ankhesenamun were very young and he most probably had a heavy hand in molding and shaping Tutankhamun’s thinking in the early years. This likely occurred as changes and decisions during those early years of Tutankhamun’s rule carried the weight of a more-versed and more-mature ruler and could not have been done by a child of eight years old.
As Tutankhamun and Ankhesenamun began to mature, Tutankhamun suddenly died for no apparent reason. Tutankhamun was about 18 years of age when he passed away and once again Ankhesenamun was left without a husband. The standard mourning period was 70 days and it appears that several major things occurred during this timeframe; 1) Tutankhamun’s burial site seems to have been put together in a haphazardly way, 2) Ankhesenamun is not mentioned or depicted at the burial site or are there any personal items of Ankhesenamun buried with Tutankhamun as this was the standard practice of including “wifely items” with the dead pharaohs, and 3) History now shows us that Ankhesenamun may have tried to contact the Hittite King Suppiluliumas for help. King Suppiluliumas was a well-known enemy of Egypt at that time.
Upon further review of Tutankhamun’s burial site, it seems that the walls were not fully painted as would have been fitting for a pharaoh of that time. Why? It also appears that many of the items found in the tomb were borrowed and did not belong strictly to Tutankhamun. Again the question is why? Speculation is that Ay, who was most probably in control of the burial procedures, was in a hurry to get everything completed and sealed as he may have been the person responsible for Tutankhamun’s death. Why does speculation lean toward that theory? Most likely because he had much control over the rule of Egypt during Tutankhamun’s rule until the boy king began to mature. He probably wanted him out of the way. In addition, history shows that he married Ankhesenamun shortly after Tutankhamun died and thereby became Egypt’s new pharaoh. Upon review of Tutankhamun’s skull, there is some evidence that Tutankhamun may have died a more brutal death than once thought and Ay is at the top of the list as a possible murderer.
In addition, the standard practice of that time would have been to mention and provide many items of the “Chief wife” of a pharaoh in a burial site. Unfortunately, there is little mention of Ankhesenamun at the burial site. The fact that any personal items belonging to Ankhesenamun at Tutankhamun’s tomb are missing make things even more suspicious. Why would this occur? Could it be that Ay may have been planning to take Ankhesenamun (most probably his granddaughter) as his wife and thereby become the new Pharaoh? It would not have been fitting to have his new wife depicted in Tutankhamun’s tomb. By marrying Ankhesenamun he would then have a direct link to the throne and be more readily accepted as Egypt’s new ruling pharaoh.
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The third suspicious piece to this puzzle is a letter sent to a Hittite King named Suppiluliumas from an Eqyptian queen. There is speculation that the letter could have been sent from another queen because the names referenced in the letter do not specifically mention Ankhesenamun or Tutankhamun but rather use the names Dahamunzu and her dead husband Niphururiya. However, upon further review of the Hittite phonetic translations of Egyptian language at that time, it would have been translated to point towards Ankhesenamun as the queen asking for help and Tutankhamun as the king having died. The letter states, “My husband has died and I have no son. They say about you that you have many sons. You might give me one of your sons to become my husband. Never shall I pick out a servant of mine and make him my husband!...I am afraid!” Why would Ankhesenamun be afraid? Could it be that she knew that Ay had contributed to her husband’s death? Could it be that she had seen Ay depicted in Tutankhamun’s tomb wearing the royal crown’s of Egypt with his name clearly written in hieroglyphs as the presiding priest over Tutankhamun’s picture?
Upon receiving the request for help from the Eqyptian queen, King Suppiluliumas sent Hattusa-zita, a chamberlain, to verify that this was a true request and not a plan of treachery. Hattusa-zita returned verifying that this was not a scheme but rather a true plea for help. King Suppiluliumas then sent his youngest son Zanannza to marry the Egyptian queen (more than likely Ankhesenamun). Upon entering Egypt the whole group was murdered.
Ankhesenamun was left with no other alternative than to marry Ay who was at least 40 years her senior. A blue-glass finger ring has since been found containing both Ankhesenamun and Ay’s engraved names. This is further evidence that this marriage took place after Tutankhamun’s death. Shortly thereafter, Ankhesenamun disappears from history and even in Ay’s tomb there is no evidence that she was the chief wife. Rather, it is Tiy who appears in Ay’s tomb. But as history writes itself, Ankhesenamun had married 4 pharaohs in her short lifetime; Akhenaten (her father), Smenkhkare (more than likely her half brother), Tutankhamun (more than likely her half brother), and Ay (probably her grandfather).
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Register or LoginTHANKS A BUNCH, Paula!!! I was too enamoured with & distracted by all things Ancient Egypt (another subject v close to my heart ) to notice "the connection" & "significance" of this with "our man". In fact, I was actually half way through writing a purely Egyptology based response to this when I saw your comment here! :oops: :lol: So, MUCH obliged to you yet AGAIN, Paula And, whether or not you are " REALLY linked" to the original TIAI.com, I must say, GOOD ONE today, TT! I TOTALLY like :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 05:58:41 AM »
ABSOLUTELY LOVE TMZ's endless chain of kooky-hooky-catchy & 'quirky' little headlines!!![Talk about blatant & liberal use of 'double' entendres! :roll: ] And, of course, there's that "mysterious" & "magic" number(s?) on this one again too...Anyhow, all-in-"ALL", a most "illuminating" read INDEED! :!: :mrgreen: 8-) :arrow: :!: :lol: L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 13, 2010, 05:28:26 AM »
Gee, THANKS & much obliged, TMZ, TIAI & *Mo* ... (& in that order!) :lol: L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 12, 2010, 09:11:44 PM »
On Saturday we had Harvey's "Michael Jackson RIP/Still alive" poll, which at one point showed 57% voted "Still alive", and today we have TIAI linking to the "'Cover-Up' of JFK Assassination Facts" poll on Fox.
Coincidence..? I think not.
I wasn't aware of that (& was wondering what became of it too!), So thanks for sharing this, *Mo* Could you also explain that "at one point" bit here (does that mean the poll is not over yet & is still ongoing? :?) too please? Tks. Most people ('fans'-of both "categories" & 'haters' alike) either just refuse to or steer clear of being 'associated' with us "BeLIEvers" in any way whatsoever. I think "the title" & "the connotations" attached to it daunts them a bit *** [ Hey folks, if you are reading this, we don't bite, I promise! Nor are we "challenged"/"inferior" to you in ANY WAY whatsoever too!!! :x It REALLY is ALL about/for/with LOVE "broadly speaking", OVERALL, I mean, of course ]So, maybe, they are afraid of how ("badly") it would reflect on them personally. Perhaps it's too alarming to consider the possible "repercussions of their actions" here. We can ALL understand & appreciate that it must be quite a disturbing "prospect", the thought of being singled-out by choosing not to conform to the "neat" general status quo...Hmmm, I see a possible connection/similar trend with this & the subject of today's redirect too... However, whether or not they wish to acknowledge the fact that they "may" be more open & inclined to agree with us NOW, it's MOST HEARTENING & INTERESTING to note that the number of people who believe that MJ "might" still be alive seems to be on the rise by the day, as the "inconsistencies" & "delays" become increasingly all-too-glaring-APPARENT to be so easily dismissed . I guess, it's just easier to admit that in "the blessed comfort zone of anonymity" for some! :lol: But really, in all seriousness here (& I don't mean just "THE hoax" either!), people, HURRY UP & make up your mind/DECIDE YOUR CHOICE!!! Because, no matter how badly we wish it to be true, the world doesn't consider/wait at your "convenience", especially IF what you "do/don't do/say/don't say" keeps involving & affecting others too! There's no point of maintaining a false sense of decorum/facade of being "neutral/impartial" IF you know very well that it isn't the way you really feel deep inside/"secretly"! Why try to fool yourself; why not just do yourself & others some highly-overdue justice instead?!? DO LET'S GET A MOVE ON in a certain direction or CHOOSE TO BE STUCK in the same "vicious cycle" created & contributed to by us ALL!!! Oh, "the problems of men & mice"... SO VERY COMPLICATED & NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE to remain untouched, detached or unaffected through it "ALL". Here's hoping there shall SOON be a much-needed compromise between "rational logic" & the-much-harder-to-define&describe "plain feelings", Somehow, Somewhere along the line, for ALL OUR sakes!!!L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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« on: April 12, 2010, 04:06:56 PM »
You know, if this [You are not allowed to view links.
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