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Title: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 15, 2010, 11:30:51 PM
Jacko trial in two years

MICHAEL Jackson's doctor is unlikely to face trial over the star's death for TWO YEARS, the News of the World can reveal.

Huge delays in preparing the case against Conrad Murray mean he probably will not go before a jury until 2012.

In the meantime, he put his medical skills to good use yesterday -giving first aid to a woman who passed out on a plane.

Passengers on the flight from Houston to Texas said Murray, 57, helped stabilise the woman and hooked her up to an IV drip.

When she came to after 30 minutes, he reportedly said: "You probably know me-I was Michael Jackson's doctor."

Miranda Sevcik, from the legal team representing Murray in his involuntary manslaughter case, said: "He's a good doctor, and that's what good doctors do-save people."

Murray's lawyer Ed Chernoff is furious "many pages" of documents collected by Los Angeles police have not been handed to the defence-even though Murray was charged in February.

Proceedings could be drawn out even longer over problems with choosing a jury. Chernoff fears his client will not get a fair hearing in LA. "Finding people without a view on Jackson will not be easy," said one legal expert.

Murray is next due in court on June 14, but his lawyer says he will push that hearing back to September.

Last night Murray's spokesman said: "We are looking at the trial starting in about two years in September.

"We've got a huge load-3,500 pages-of evidence to go through. And we have witnesses to speak to all over the world who have had contact with Jackson over the years.

"To properly defend Conrad it's gonna take time to get all of our stuff together."

The District Attorney's said there was a "good possibility" the trial would not begin for "one to two years".

Murray, a cardiologist, has just been given permission to continue his medical practice-but without using anaesthesia-to help pay legal bills.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz ... death.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/814399/Two-year-wait-for-Michael-Jacksons-doctor-to-face-trial-over-stars-death.html)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: loma on May 15, 2010, 11:52:19 PM
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Oh Connie is EVER so nice! He saved that poor little lady with the baby!
He deserves a round of applause!

Come on.
They are making him seem like he is a good man (and if Michael is really d**d), he shouldn't
be treated like anyone else. By 2012, everyone would forget that he is (supposedly) an
evil man who killed Michael Jackson.
I think this is good for the hoax.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 15, 2010, 11:56:10 PM
I cant take two more years of this!!!!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: xxHoldMyHandxx on May 16, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
TWO YEARS!?!  :x

I am already going crazy. Do I really have to put up with another 2 years of this?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: nefari on May 16, 2010, 12:22:46 AM
2012 I had this feeling. Oh Lord, my heart is breaking now. And it's hopeless, all I can do is love Michael. I cannot stop ever. Will I be there, you bet your sweet arse I will but will my heart be together, no because it's torn to bits now. I know I am not alone either and I feel like a total wimp even going on like this but people we all need each other, maybe that's the entire point of all of this. I know I won't get through this without all of you. I already feel like this is a home. I apologize for falling apart. I was visiting Wylie Draper's crypt today giving him Sunflowers, hoping we were all on the verge of seeing our angel again. Now this! Am just going somewhere to cry this out.
Love
Nefari
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: airieslady on May 16, 2010, 12:35:12 AM
OH MY!  Talk about mind control!  2012 Do you really think that?   :o   :?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: msteetee34 on May 16, 2010, 12:52:25 AM
Okay this really makes me believe everything is a hoax now.  I mean come on two years?  The story about the airplane is so ironic too.  He just happens to save a lady on an airplane and hook her up to an IV drip.  What the heck?  They're using the excuse that there is too much evidence for the defense to go over that's why the trial will take so long.  How can there even be 3500 pages worth of evidence?  That sounds ridiculous in itself.  They said finding a jury who is not biased will also be a problem.  Well they sure found a jury during MJ's trial in 2005 now didn't they.  The most famous man in the world.  The article also mentions how Murray is actually a good doctor and that's what good doctors do.  If this articles is true this definitely give me hope that MJ is still around.  There's no way it should take that long to prosecute him if he really killed MJ.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 16, 2010, 12:53:48 AM
Proceedings could be drawn out even longer over problems with choosing a jury. Chernoff fears his client will not get a fair hearing in LA. "Finding people without a view on Jackson will not be easy," said one legal expert.


LOL - I'm not sure there is anywhere on this planet that they can go. Michael is known everywhere. However, let's hope that people let justice prevail instead of pushing agendas.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: nefari on May 16, 2010, 01:03:19 AM
OMG guess what people~!!!! June 25th 2012 is a SUNDAY!!!! Sunflowers....Sunday...SUN!!!!
BAM!!!!!!
Nefari
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: bec on May 16, 2010, 01:11:56 AM
If I'm not mistaken, June 14th court date is a hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence to hold a trial.

A dead person would be the most importance piece of evidence in a manslaughter trial no?

So yes. The jury trial likely wouldn't be til 2012. IF there is a trial. Which we won't know til June 14th.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 16, 2010, 01:19:15 AM
omg thank, that is a good find :o  so 2012 again huhh....well it would fit.
Quote from: "nefari"
OMG guess what people~!!!! June 25th 2012 is a SUNDAY!!!! Sunflowers....Sunday...SUN!!!!
BAM!!!!!!
Nefari

wow I didn't know it's a SUNday in 2012. that's awesome. but 2012 is still a long time to go :|
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on May 16, 2010, 01:24:14 AM
The CM case is going to be dragged and dragged... We knew that. When exactly he will be presented to a jury, we cannot know. But since Conny did not murder MJ I don't see no other way to do it, than drag it out. Personally I don't expect MJ to return any time soon. And if CM was to be convicted and send to prison - then what? A lot of the public want that. Some fans even shout 'murderer' at him, though he is still not a convicted man... We want justice. But we know it's all a hoax and I believe MJ to return 'in his own time'. This had all been so precicely planned out. But I am not surprised it is going to take some time. And we will be here. We have eachother. And it's a very good thing for us that we have this great forum (thanks to Mo and Souza) to talk about everything and investigate. I try to tell myself that this is 'a great adventure' instead of losing my mind. Even though this is at times a very serious 'game' we play, our eyes have been opened to many things. And I thank Michael for once more teaching me and educating me in what the world really is and what is must become to conquer and prevail. And I thank all of you for being here too. Together we can make it! Make it all the way through this looney circus!  :D And we can make the change.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: PinkTopaz on May 16, 2010, 02:09:55 AM
Oh my, this is exactly what I thought the first time Murray went to court, I thought that maybe the Hoax Camp should just "delay" all of these "trials" for a re-al long time: out of sight, out of mind! One of the main complaints of non-believers is that there's a trial being held. Well look now.. Soon, everyone will know, just as we do, that all of this is totally unnecessary, and the court and Hoax Camp won't have hassled with it! I'd bet any money that's what's up.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 16, 2010, 02:13:49 AM
Quote from: "TinkerbellStardust"
The CM case is going to be dragged and dragged... We knew that. When exactly he will be presented to a jury, we cannot know. But since Conny did not murder MJ I don't see no other way to do it, than drag it out. Personally I don't expect MJ to return any time soon. And if CM was to be convicted and send to prison - then what? A lot of the public want that. Some fans even shout 'murderer' at him, though he is still not a convicted man... We want justice. But we know it's all a hoax and I believe MJ to return 'in his own time'. This had all been so precicely planned out. But I am not surprised it is going to take some time. And we will be here. We have eachother. And it's a very good thing for us that we have this great forum (thanks to Mo and Souza) to talk about everything and investigate. I try to tell myself that this is 'a great adventure' instead of losing my mind. Even though this is at times a very serious 'game' we play, our eyes have been opened to many things. And I thank Michael for once more teaching me and educating me in what the world really is and what is must become to conquer and prevail. And I thank all of you for being here too. Together we can make it! Make it all the way through this looney circus!  :D And we can make the change.

well said...I agree :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: KINGdom52 on May 16, 2010, 02:27:40 AM
We cannot know before June 14.
But even if there are 3500 pages ,the legal team needs 2 years ?   :roll: What are they, retarded ? Please !
We knew that is going to be dragged and dragged but 2 years is a very long time.

And this airplane incident was a good try to "restore" CM's image as a good doctor but who's going to remember it , after a while ?
There were always some little rumors about 2012 but IDK. Something doesn't up.

In any case, we have to become Patience's gurus. ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: simalves on May 16, 2010, 04:58:35 AM
Is he 57 now? Whats with his age. And at what age do docs retire.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: loyalfan on May 16, 2010, 05:03:53 AM
well all i can say is.......i see several "institutions" for the mentally ill popping up all over the place,between now and 2012......................and i will be their first patient near me.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 16, 2010, 05:05:16 AM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
well all i can say is.......i see several "institutions" for the mentally ill popping up all over the place,between now and 2012......................and i will be their first patient near me.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

yepp me too :lol:  :lol:  just come pick me up guys :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: loma on May 16, 2010, 05:16:26 AM
Quote from: "Styloprincess"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
well all i can say is.......i see several "institutions" for the mentally ill popping up all over the place,between now and 2012......................and i will be their first patient near me.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

yepp me too :lol:  :lol:  just come pick me up guys :lol:
We'll be stopping by soon.
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Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on May 16, 2010, 05:17:26 AM
2 years! :shock:
Oh boy, I'm not sure if we'll all be mentally sane in 2 years time. :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 16, 2010, 05:19:30 AM
Quote from: "loma"
Quote from: "Styloprincess"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
well all i can say is.......i see several "institutions" for the mentally ill popping up all over the place,between now and 2012......................and i will be their first patient near me.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

yepp me too :lol:  :lol:  just come pick me up guys :lol:
We'll be stopping by soon.
(http://serve.mysmiley.net/happy/happy0069.gif)

I'll be waiting :lol:  8-)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 16, 2010, 05:47:31 AM
I'll be 47 in two years.  I don't think my eyes sight will even be good enough to keep reading all this by then.   :(  :(  :(  :(   My son will turn 9.  I can't miss out on watching him grow up without me anymore.. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This has to be a joke. :shock:  :shock:    

Michael, you better be back soon.  Otherwise your fans will earn their title ......

Crazed fans in denial
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: mjjveritas on May 16, 2010, 09:08:26 AM
Remember, Conrad Murray is not accused of murder but the charge of involuntary manslaughter. CM did not set out to kill MJ.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Java on May 16, 2010, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: "bec"
If I'm not mistaken, June 14th court date is a hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence to hold a trial.

A dead person would be the most importance piece of evidence in a manslaughter trial no?

So yes. The jury trial likely wouldn't be til 2012. IF there is a trial. Which we won't know til June 14th.

Just with the little bit we know, there is ample evidence imo that Dr. Murray was negligent, sloppy and willfully so.  It will go to trial eventually.  Take a look at Anna-Nicole's case.  Takes time.  Too long for us - but time.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Doctor Death on May 16, 2010, 10:10:13 AM
They're reversing the whole story.....

What I mean is.....
 
MJ's trying to show how a villain can become a good guy and vice versa just because its convinient for the media to do so.......Look what happens now.....People will get influenced by these reprts of Conrad the saviour and they'll say to themselves "AWWW....HE ISNT THAT BAD IS HE??.....That Jackson guy was a bum"

I think thats what he wants to prove....That public opinion is so malleable, that it can be moulded into any DAMN thing that the Media to...It can be given any damn shape it wants......I understand this whole hoax now.....THIS IS THE PLOT!!!!! THIS IS WHERE ITS GONNA GO!!!!

THIS IS HOW HE"S GONNA PROVE IT..... :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D[attachment=0:2a3dswgz]012.jpg[/attachment:2a3dswgz]
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Datroot on May 16, 2010, 10:15:10 AM
Conrad the Saviour v Jackson the Bum - I can just see that in court.   :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 16, 2010, 10:43:03 AM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Conrad the Saviour v Jackson the Bum - I can just see that in court.   :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: XspeechlessX on May 16, 2010, 10:44:06 AM
Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
2 years! :shock:
Oh boy, I'm not sure if we'll all be mentally sane in 2 years time. :lol:

2 years time?!

Christ... Im not mentally sane now!!  :shock:

...stress relief stress relief....

oh my god.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: tabloidburn on May 16, 2010, 10:52:46 AM
Quote from: "Doctor Death"
They're reversing the whole story.....

What I mean is.....
 
MJ's trying to show how a villain can become a good guy and vice versa just because its convinient for the media to do so.......Look what happens now.....People will get influenced by these reprts of Conrad the saviour and they'll say to themselves "AWWW....HE ISNT THAT BAD IS HE??.....That Jackson guy was a bum"

I think thats what he wants to prove....That public opinion is so malleable, that it can be moulded into any DAMN thing that the Media to...It can be given any damn shape it wants......I understand this whole hoax now.....THIS IS THE PLOT!!!!! THIS IS WHERE ITS GONNA GO!!!!

THIS IS HOW HE"S GONNA PROVE IT..... :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
012.jpg


another well-worded post, my friend! i couldn't have said it better. mike is using the same vehicle for creating public images that destroyed his: tabloids and other newschannels. he knows exactly how to do it, when to do it and what effect that should have.
this is to create more 'reasonable doubt' and of course, clean murray UP once and for all. the direction now is saying: mike brought this on himself, he pressured murray into overdosing him, murray had no choice but to give in and the unthinkable happened: it went wrong! but it wasn't his fault, cuz see what he's just done? he SAVED a life in front of people's eyes! what a hero!
this whole 'news' thing is only done for one reason: to create images and manipulate the public's perception. mike has only turned the tables on all of it, that's all...

another note: the remark kinda struck me 'it will be hard to find people without a view on jackson' - who's on trial? jackson or murray? i would rather think they should find people regarding their view on the defendant, and not on the 'victim'?

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: AvaMarie on May 16, 2010, 11:14:43 AM
OMG two years. I can't take two more years. If this drags out for years. I can tell you now what I will be insane by then, locked away in a padded cell.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Angelina on May 16, 2010, 11:23:01 AM
Omg, I don't know how to survive two more years.  
My nerves can't take any more...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Sarahli on May 16, 2010, 11:43:32 AM
It's not because the article stated 2012 that it means that the hoax will end in 2012, it's just an hypothesis an expectation...keep watching they are turning points. I hope TMZ will give us a clue on this one...

2012 seems to be an important date but for something else. For something that concerns the whole world. I hardly see the hoax lasting 2 years. I may be wrong but right now I feel that it's too long.

Well if it appears that I'm wrong I'll still be there in 2012 God willing. This is too important.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: moyrum on May 16, 2010, 12:00:49 PM
Omg  :shock:  this makes me think of when MJ mentioned 2012 in This Is It saying somthing like we have until 2012 to get this right, is it in 2012 he will come back out  :?:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: suspicious mind on May 16, 2010, 12:11:57 PM
guess he had to go to the airport to fly from houstion to texas ;)  ;)  :?  :?  :roll:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Datroot on May 16, 2010, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
guess he had to go to the airport to fly from houstion to texas ;)  ;)  :?  :?  :roll:

Ha ha, I noticed that typo.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: whisper on May 16, 2010, 12:23:19 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
It's not because the article stated 2012 that it means that the hoax will end in 2012, it's just an hypothesis an expectation...keep watching they are turning points. I hope TMZ will give us a clue on this one...

2012 seems to be an important date but for something else. For something that concerns the whole world. I hardly see the hoax lasting 2 years. I may be wrong but right now I feel that it's too long.

Well if it appears that I'm wrong I'll still be there in 2012 God willing. This is too important.

Yes , I'm with you here.. I know MJ mentioned 2012 in This Is It but I never thought of it as the" ending of the hoax " .. I think it's just a clue , or  an important date which obviously MJ is concerned about ..
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on May 16, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
*COUGH* HOAX *COUGH*

This is turning out to get so much more believable :) after i told my mom this she was like 2 Effing years, okay somethings not right maybe it is a hoax LOL welcome to the believer train mommie ;) LOL
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: heisinme09 on May 16, 2010, 12:28:19 PM
One comment....I have read in more than one post that people feared that if Murray was actually sent to jail that they would finally believe that Michael is dead, for they also believe that he would never let an innocent man actually go to jail....so isn't this huge delay a good thing? I believe Mike is buying time and will come back way before this gets down to an actual trial before a jury.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on May 16, 2010, 01:02:01 PM
Quote from: "loma"
(http://serve.mysmiley.net/animated/anim_03.gif)
Oh Connie is EVER so nice! He saved that poor little lady with the baby!
He deserves a round of applause!

Come on.
They are making him seem like he is a good man (and if Michael is really d**d), he shouldn't
be treated like anyone else. By 2012, everyone would forget that he is (supposedly) an
evil man who killed Michael Jackson.
I think this is good for the hoax.
I think that was a set up , to make him look good. all a fake .
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: cin_pyt on May 16, 2010, 03:27:57 PM
This is news of the world we're reading they know nothing only the man knows when he chooses to come out. 2012 Mike visit us in the looney bin when you come back in 2012 ok?  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: XspeechlessX on May 16, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
Maybe Mike is buying time. Maybe theres no definite datefor his return yet. Hes just not ready yet. He realises if they continue to push it back all the time people will figure the whole thing out. By doing this hes giving himself 2 years, take it or leave it.

Any time between now and then.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: mjj29081958 on May 16, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
Quote from: "heisinme09"
One comment....I have read in more than one post that people feared that if Murray was actually sent to jail that they would finally believe that Michael is dead, for they also believe that he would never let an innocent man actually go to jail....so isn't this huge delay a good thing? I believe Mike is buying time and will come back way before this gets down to an actual trial before a jury.

Well, I guess it's not that good for the ones who were expecting June to see what happen with Murray's case, and finally find some kind of clousure to this...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: lacta89 on May 16, 2010, 05:19:02 PM
That is not a surprise to me!!!!!It was obvious since the beginning, even the incident with this lady at the air port...... Things that make Dr Murray look like a good person and actor! Ehmmmm excuse me, I mean doctor :D  ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: a18wheelslady on May 16, 2010, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: "LOVEYOUMORE"
Quote from: "loma"
(http://serve.mysmiley.net/animated/anim_03.gif)
Oh Connie is EVER so nice! He saved that poor little lady with the baby!
He deserves a round of applause!

Come on.
They are making him seem like he is a good man (and if Michael is really d**d), he shouldn't
be treated like anyone else. By 2012, everyone would forget that he is (supposedly) an
evil man who killed Michael Jackson.
I think this is good for the hoax.
I think that was a set up , to make him look good. all a fake .

I agree with the set up theory. Correct me if I’m wrong but when does a DR. travel with IV bags???????  Or is this something that the air plains have on board. Sounds fishy to me.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on May 16, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
YES 2012 IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!

[youtube:1vj2q8qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO-SEVqBHNo[/youtube:1vj2q8qr]


"SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT"

[youtube:1vj2q8qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc[/youtube:1vj2q8qr]
 :geek:
[youtube:1vj2q8qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KGg0BWFb-4[/youtube:1vj2q8qr]

 :geek:
Peace
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: reading_on on May 16, 2010, 07:04:11 PM
This 2 year time is not unusual at all. This is perfectly normal. Does anybody remember how long Michael's trial was? It was a long time before they went to the actual trial.

In most cases they have to prove they have a case to go to trial and that takes awhile.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: paula-c on May 16, 2010, 07:20:25 PM
2012, well time goes fast and we have almost a year on this, :?  so I hope not, otherwise I hope everyone has a good mental health :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: PureLove on May 16, 2010, 08:25:34 PM
Quote from: "nefari"
OMG guess what people~!!!! June 25th 2012 is a SUNDAY!!!! Sunflowers....Sunday...SUN!!!!
BAM!!!!!!
Nefari

MICHAEL WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG! PLEASE DON'T DO THIS TO US. :(

Wouldn't it be nice if TMZ make a news with clues about the BAMS day date?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: *Mo* on May 17, 2010, 12:52:12 AM
Quote from: "reading_on"
This 2 year time is not unusual at all. This is perfectly normal. Does anybody remember how long Michael's trial was? It was a long time before they went to the actual trial.

In most cases they have to prove they have a case to go to trial and that takes awhile.

On December 18, 2003, Jackson was charged.

Jackson was arraigned on January 16, 2004.

Grand jury proceedings in Santa Barbara, starting in March 2004, led to Jackson's indictment on April 21, 2004.

The second arraignment was on April 30, 2004.

The jury selection for the jury trial started on January 31, 2005.

February 28, 2005: Day 1 of the trial.

There were 14.5 months in between being charged and the start of the trial.  There were 10.5 months in between the indictment and the start of the trial.  There were ten charges, including four lesser substitute charges.

In Murray's case there's only 1 charge.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 17, 2010, 12:57:32 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
In Murray's case there's only 1 charge.[/b]

Which is ridiculous as well.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: PinkTopaz on May 17, 2010, 12:58:47 AM
Oh, Souza, you appeared, LOL! So what do you two make of this article's claim, then?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 17, 2010, 01:08:17 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Oh, Souza, you appeared, LOL! So what do you two make of this article's claim, then?

Not much. We all know that Murray did not kill Mike, they don't have Mike's dead body, so there will be no trial. I don't get why some people can forget everything from the last 11 months and all of a sudden doubt this hoax because of some article. Like we can believe anything the media reports regarding Mike, yet this is believable? Shamone!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: PinkTopaz on May 17, 2010, 01:24:17 AM
I know, I agree! It's from News of the World..but I asked because I saw you mention that we still need a trial for something.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: nefari on May 17, 2010, 04:10:29 AM
Yeah now I feel like a dumb arse lol worried to death over this 2012 report. Yeah it all could change at any given time. But I've felt all along that Michael and 2012 sort of go hand in hand. He has something in mind for 2012 and I'm scared too because if Murray goes down for this, goes to prison then Michael is really in heaven. And still running with the possibility of Michael being Murray scares me too because some ticked off fan could take a pot shot at him and hit him. We need Murray alive. Even if Michael is really dead we still want Murray alive because he would just have a grand ole time in prison!!! *assuming Murray is really Murray :) *
Do any of you all ever just want to scream "Are we there yet!!!!!!!!!!"
Peace
Nefari
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: sandythyme on May 17, 2010, 09:51:28 AM
I agree with Souza.  This article is just a part of the plan.  Think about it, he helped a woman with an IV, funny he helped Michael with an IV also?  It's just a part of the...what do we choose to believe from our media.  As for 2012 before CM goes before  jury, this is all a part of the hoax.  If in fact a man killed the most famous person in the world and can come and go as he pleases, work, get up in the morning and go jogging, then you have two guys who claims Michael was gay are getting death threats have body guards, and :D  the FBI and local law enforcement involved.  What does this tell us.....It's not real.  We are all going to be ok.  We have to have faith in Michael and his message and just keep on plugging away.  We will get there.  Don't worry.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: RK on May 17, 2010, 10:16:33 AM
Thankyou SandyThyme, my thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: becca26 on May 17, 2010, 10:47:49 AM
The golden age will happen in 2012, maybe this could be why, its when people will be more open to LOVE, this man is so smart take the time to watch the video.  http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=YxQLiy7 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=YxQLiy7AHx8&feature=related)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: MJonmind on May 17, 2010, 10:52:30 AM
Now that you mention it, that is a clincher for me too. Murray is not bothered by fans for murdering MJ, and a word about MJ's sexuality gets fans threatening to kill them. What do MJ's-Dead fans think of that irony? I like where someone said we see everything through "hoax filters".

When MJ says, 'We have three years to get it right (to 2012)', I wonder does he mean the hoax drama playing out till everyone believes he's alive and Bam!, or that 2012 is Murray's trial and Bam!, or MJ and fans work behind the scenes environmentally/politically/socially to save the planet before the end of the age comes. With the CDS only performed 2011 & 12, the talk of tribute events around the June 25, 2010 I'm sadly thinking BAM may only come in 2012, with the time before building to a climax. Maybe it wlll come to the whole world anticipating his BAM, not just us fans! Imagine! I've struggled to juggle the rest of my schedule in with hoax study, but 2 more years feels tiring (but happy!!). Of course MJ is totally worth it and it's going to be "The Greatest Show On Earth!"

Just an add-on, does anyone have the exact wording on the schedule as in something like --"nightfall, darkness, dawning, sun-rise, sunshine..." Maybe the sunflowers was the start of "sunrise" stage?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Dancing_Machine on May 17, 2010, 11:23:27 AM
This makes the hoax more convincing.  :)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on May 17, 2010, 11:25:40 AM
I asked awhile ago how they would find a jury for this trial:  viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8451&p=139753&hilit=jury#p139753 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8451&p=139753&hilit=jury#p139753)

and the 2 yrs or so to go to trial isnt unusual. The 3500 pgs of evidence? What the hell else went on that day that we dont know about? LOL!

And yes, I agree with the poster whoa sked how they would have IV bags on a plane????
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: KINGdom52 on May 17, 2010, 12:04:16 PM
Why wasn't TMZ the first one -as always- that posted these "news" ?  ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: fedeDA on May 17, 2010, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Oh, Souza, you appeared, LOL! So what do you two make of this article's claim, then?

Not much. We all know that Murray did not kill Mike, they don't have Mike's dead body, so there will be no trial. I don't get why some people can forget everything from the last 11 months and all of a sudden doubt this hoax because of some article. Like we can believe anything the media reports regarding Mike, yet this is believable? Shamone!

Souza please, write often. I need your support in these days!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: alovesmichael on May 17, 2010, 12:43:13 PM
This article is too bizarre to even be slightly believable and the source just underlines that  :roll: . However, if Michael has indeed passed away I don't think 2 years would seem that strange, especially since we're talking about Michael Jackson.

Quote
We've got a huge load-3,500 pages-of evidence to go through. And we have witnesses to speak to all over the world who have had contact with Jackson over the years.

Ok, why would they need to speak to witnesses "from all over the world"? And that haven't even been in contact with Michael in recent years! They're really going for the "Michael was a drug addict that brought this on himself" - theory which is disgusting! Michael might've been addicted before but that does not necessarily mean he was right before his "death". I don't know why they'd even bother looking for these people because it's not even a strong argument. So let's say Michael was an addict and therefore he injected himself with sedatives and too much propofol but right before that he told Murray to leave the room and not monitor him, oh he also left a note for Murray saying: "if you, when you come back, find me not breathing do wait an hour before you call 911". Puuleeez!

I know many of you think this fits with the hoax theory but I'm not convinced which is why I'm upset about all the delays. How could Michael have planned this, really? Involving a whole public legal system for a hoax seems kind of far-fetched I must say. It's time consuming and cost money. If Michael did hoax his death I personally doubt that there are that many people involved knowing about it.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: MJonmind on May 17, 2010, 12:52:20 PM
Perhaps there was a Higher Power involved in orchestrating this whole hoax. I mean that Michael got a little help throughout his life. He said so himself.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: DancingTheDream on May 17, 2010, 12:54:53 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"

and the 2 yrs or so to go to trial isnt unusual. The 3500 pgs of evidence? What the hell else went on that day that we dont know about? LOL!


The paperwork involved in a murder IS humungous...   there are the medical records, the medical evidence, coroners evidence, autopsy evidence, the scene at the house, the scene of Murrays car, Murrays interviews, witness interviews, etc, etc.....
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Dancer on May 17, 2010, 02:03:27 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Perhaps there was a Higher Power involved in orchestrating this whole hoax. I mean that Michael got a little help throughout his life. He said so himself.
This is exactly what I think, too. I think he got help "from above".
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Kirsche on May 17, 2010, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Jacko trial in two years

MICHAEL Jackson's doctor is unlikely to face trial over the star's death for TWO YEARS, the News of the World can reveal.

Huge delays in preparing the case against Conrad Murray mean he probably will not go before a jury until 2012.

In the meantime, he put his medical skills to good use yesterday -giving first aid to a woman who passed out on a plane.

Passengers on the flight from Houston to Texas said Murray, 57, helped stabilise the woman and hooked her up to an IV drip.

When she came to after 30 minutes, he reportedly said: "You probably know me-I was Michael Jackson's doctor."

Miranda Sevcik, from the legal team representing Murray in his involuntary manslaughter case, said: "He's a good doctor, and that's what good doctors do-save people."

Murray's lawyer Ed Chernoff is furious "many pages" of documents collected by Los Angeles police have not been handed to the defence-even though Murray was charged in February.

Proceedings could be drawn out even longer over problems with choosing a jury. Chernoff fears his client will not get a fair hearing in LA. "Finding people without a view on Jackson will not be easy," said one legal expert.

Murray is next due in court on June 14, but his lawyer says he will push that hearing back to September.

Last night Murray's spokesman said: "We are looking at the trial starting in about two years in September.

"We've got a huge load-3,500 pages-of evidence to go through. And we have witnesses to speak to all over the world who have had contact with Jackson over the years.

"To properly defend Conrad it's gonna take time to get all of our stuff together."

The District Attorney's said there was a "good possibility" the trial would not begin for "one to two years".

Murray, a cardiologist, has just been given permission to continue his medical practice-but without using anaesthesia-to help pay legal bills.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz ... death.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/814399/Two-year-wait-for-Michael-Jacksons-doctor-to-face-trial-over-stars-death.html)
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


If this is true, ( and I don't know because it's NOTW) that's very good for us... I think most of the people will forget about him...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: darkchild on May 17, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
I do not care how long this takes.  I am stay until the very end.  I love MJ too much to leave his side or ever stop loving him.  You guys on the forum are my MJ family. Nefair, hon, my heart is ripped apart into a million pieces like your heart is.  So, I send you my heart-felt prayers and my comfort to you.  I am here to support you, Nefari.
God bless you, Nefari, for your support and your love for MJ.  God bless everyone here on the forum.  oxoxoxoxoxoxoxo The Truth will prevail.

It is all for L.O.V.E. and for MJ!

MJ, baby, I am here to hold your hand until Jesus takes me home to heaven to be with him.  I love you, MJ! xxxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: nefari on May 17, 2010, 11:58:02 PM
darkchild thank you :)
I go through moments where I just have to have a cry or step away a few moments and put everything into perspective. But I'm here and I can do this for Michael. This all makes me think of a song many of you may be too young to remember and it sure goes with this journey:
******************
When the moon is in the seventh house
And jupiter aligns with mars
The peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of aquarius
The age of aquarius
Aquarius
Aquarius
Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystals revelations
And the minds true liberation
Aquarius
Aquarius
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine, the sun shine in
Let the sun shine, Let the sun shine, the sun shine in
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: MJonmind on May 18, 2010, 03:02:46 AM
Most Christians don't know Astrology, and perhaps Astrologers don't know the Bible. I think Michael's causing all groups to learn from each other.  Thanks for posting the song, I always enjoyed it way back.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 18, 2010, 04:19:51 AM
All I know is that I can't go on like this two more years....it's too hard and takes all my time to do it
But I agree this is good for the hoax
Michael please do something sooner
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 18, 2010, 05:08:23 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
All I know is that I can't go on like this two more years....it's too hard and takes all my time to do it
But I agree this is good for the hoax
Michael please do something sooner

I think you're not alone with that!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: paula-c on May 18, 2010, 10:13:37 AM
If Souza us know, But That Will Happen to public opinion in general and the fans are furious WHO Because They think Michael Murray murderer. Last year at the forum That MJHD read something someone wrote about this case, and Apparently it is true, That this case Said That person is going to be stretched in time with the AIM That people will forget little little. ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: MJLive2010 on May 18, 2010, 04:11:32 PM
In some way I knew its gona be 2012 I will wait no matter but until then we will have more evidence and slip ups thats for sure LOOOL ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: reading_on on May 18, 2010, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "reading_on"
This 2 year time is not unusual at all. This is perfectly normal. Does anybody remember how long Michael's trial was? It was a long time before they went to the actual trial.

In most cases they have to prove they have a case to go to trial and that takes awhile.

On December 18, 2003, Jackson was charged.

Jackson was arraigned on January 16, 2004.

Grand jury proceedings in Santa Barbara, starting in March 2004, led to Jackson's indictment on April 21, 2004.

The second arraignment was on April 30, 2004.

The jury selection for the jury trial started on January 31, 2005.

February 28, 2005: Day 1 of the trial.

There were 14.5 months in between being charged and the start of the trial.  There were 10.5 months in between the indictment and the start of the trial.  There were ten charges, including four lesser substitute charges.

In Murray's case there's only 1 charge.


That's true, but I was only using Michael as an example. Another famous trial is OJ. Our court system requires many things that is why it is so drawn out and we have too many criminals that is another reason that it is so drawn out.  It takes a long time.
If you are interested and you may already know this so excuse me if you do here is a link to all the stuff they have to do (just basically criminal procedure)
http://www.allencowling.com/false04B.htm (http://www.allencowling.com/false04B.htm)

Here is a snippet of why it takes so long
One of the biggest delays in the system is due to trial preparation. It's far better to have the delay than go to trial without adequate preparation, even if you're in jail. Your attorney will most probably prepare a Motion for Discovery, requiring that the state turn over to the defense all information and documents that the defense would be entitled to regarding your case. The attorney may also consider filing a Motion to Suppress certain evidence on the grounds that it was obtained in violation of your rights. In addition, there are also certain "dismissal" motions that may be considered, where appropriate. There will usually be hearings on the suppression motions.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: MissinMJ on May 19, 2010, 12:52:21 AM
This is something for everyone to think about. Just because they say that the trial will be in 2012 doesn't mean that the hoax won't be revealed sooner than 2012. The hoax could be revealed anyday. "Survival of the fittest."
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: Styloprincess on May 19, 2010, 06:23:22 AM
Quote from: "MissinMJ"
This is something for everyone to think about. Just because they say that the trial will be in 2012 doesn't mean that the hoax won't be revealed sooner than 2012. The hoax could be revealed anyday. "Survival of the fittest."

true..and I sure hope that it's sooner than 2012!!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: MashMike on May 19, 2010, 11:09:22 AM
to me it's just great news, it proves once again the hoax, i knew from the very start that this case is gonna last very long and nothin' will happen even in 2012, just good news
Title: Re: Conrad Murray Will NOT Go Before Jury until 2012
Post by: lovemj4everandever on May 19, 2010, 08:57:41 PM
Please see this thread...

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9993 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9993)
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