Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => Updates & Posts by TS => Topic started by: TS on May 13, 2010, 08:13:21 AM
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TIAI Update #5b: DO you Think 4 your Self?
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
There are still many who think that MJ will never come back (bam); this has been discussed before, but not settled. So it’s time to address this subject in greater detail. As I said in Update #4d (4-41), “Bam: Not If, But When”. This is important for us to understand, because we can actually have an influence on the “when”; the better we all understand MJ’s message, the safer it will be for him to bam—and the more successful we will be in spreading his message, when countless people come to the hoax forums asking questions.
All the complexities and clues in this hoax would not be needed, if MJ were merely planning to go into permanent hiding. He could’ve done a much simpler death hoax, if he only wanted normalcy. Furthermore, he was already fading from media attention before “THIS IS IT”; plus he could’ve used disguises, and/or changed his looks (hair length, hair color, plastic surgery, etc)—without even a death hoax—if his only goal was to get out of the media spotlight.
If we accept the clues that he is still alive, and faked his death: then many of those very same clues also tell us that he will be back. If we don’t accept the “will be back” part of the clues, then there is no point accepting the “still alive” part of the clues. Take it or leave it, all or none; but please don’t take half and leave half!
So let’s review some of the major “will be back” clues. The Liberian Girl not only had MJ directing secretly behind the scenes, it also had MJ being seen by everyone at the end! In the short film “Ghosts”, after MJ “died” on the floor, he revealed himself alive to the mayor and the rest {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9h2WX2b64&feature=PlayList&p=4AA05B5CFD097F78&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=21}. The same basic thing could be said of other examples {2012 movie, etc; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4oV1A_glDA}.
The clues in “THIS IS IT” also point clearly to MJ coming back into public view. In the Light Man introduction, it says: “and piece by piece by piece by piece, MJ is revealed, until he jumps out”! In Gilda, the actor (with MJ’s same birthday) not only faked his death; he also came back later, and showed that he was still alive!
We know that “THIS IS IT” is TII, or Thriller II—the real life Thriller; but it would be no Thriller at all, if he merely faked his death and then stayed “dead”. This is clearly illustrated in the spider scene during Thriller; the spider does not just come up out of the graveyard, it also comes out on stage where everyone can see MJ! Finally, the “bam” clip—which is where we get the “bamsday” term—this clip seems to be meaningless, especially placed after the credits, unless it’s a big clue about MJ abruptly coming out of hiding.
All the numerology and other clues are essentially pointless, unless MJ plans to use these things to prove that the whole thing was planned by himself—and thereby avoid the argument that the real MJ is dead, and the bam MJ is just a double. Likewise, all the reasons for the hoax (environment, 4 years, expose the media & NWO, etc)—these things will be much more effective, if MJ comes back and helps to draws major public attention to them.
Some thought that the Elvis redirect was to show that MJ would never bam; however, the Elvis redirect was (among other reasons, hmmm) for the purpose of showing the contrast with MJ, not to show a comparison. There is a lot of evidence that Elvis faked his death; but there is very little if any solid evidence that he was ever planning on a comeback. By contrast, MJ left a great deal of evidence that he plans to be back.
Last but perhaps not least: TIAI says that there will be a bam! If you aren’t sure whether TIAI has reliable information, please see Update #5d (especially 5-11). Also, regarding previous TIAI/STUDY bam predictions, see 5-5 (next).
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5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return
As mentioned in Update #4: especially since January, more and more “pieces” are being revealed—not just clues for hoax believers, but things that should even cause non-believers to question what is going on.
In Update #4d (4-39), I said: “And keep watching for more such events; we should see them coming more and more, now that we are in the return process {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=97}.” This link in Update #4 was to the sub-forum: “The Hoax Mentioned in the Media”; and at that time (March 14), there were only about three or four threads there (see the start dates on the threads). Now, there are more than twenty; and this number will continue to increase, as more and more catch on to the hoax.
Several other things have happened since Update #4, more pieces in the return process. You probably know about La Toya referring to it as a “magic trick” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7767}. TMZ also reported several things: that MJ was still alive at UCLA {see 5-6, below}; that MJ killed himself {see 5-7, below}; and the walking casket with the “RIP” or “Still alive” poll {see 5-6, below}.
These things, along with several other things already mentioned in previous updates, show that indeed MJ is being revealed “piece by piece by piece”. This is the return phase of the hoax, and will end suddenly with the bam!
Speaking of the return, and bamsday: I want to respond to a thread titled: “TIAI READS THE FORUM? Criticizing TIAI!” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=6951}. That thread was posted on March 9, which was hours before Update #4—so it was a little too late to respond in Update #4 (also, that update was already very long). However, I will respond to it now in Update #5, because unlike many other TIAI complaints which I have ignored: the questions in this post are sincere, and not just empty ridicule.
For the question about TMZ: see 5-6 to 5-8 (Update #5c). For the question about “the coming up trial”: I did mention it in Update #2 {2-4, last two paragraphs; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}. For the question about the resurrection scene in TII: before the movie came out, I agree that many hoaxers were expecting a resurrection scene; my point was that I said it would not be a funeral scene, but rather a graveyard scene (I said this when a lot of people were expecting a funeral scene, maybe Forest Lawn). For questions about my other predictions: see 5-11 & 5-12.
Most of all, though, I want to answer the following question in that thread; since it is the most important question, I will quote it: “TS first told us that Michael was going to come back after the public watched the film and learnt about the hoax. I’m asking all of you. What kind of proof was there in TII for all of the public to understand that Michael is alive? Only us, the believers investigated about Gilda and the meaning of spider and understood about it. Most of Michael’s fans didn’t even understand that those scenes were about resurrection. How could Michael pretend all public to understand the message of those scenes? [P] TS told us the first comeback day was the Halloween but it was postponed to January 25th. And it never happened. On TS’ last update, he wrote that the LAST delay is not going to take that long this time. It’s been 1,5 mounths already. And nothing happened.”
Let me begin by quoting from Update #3: “We [already] know that this delay is much shorter than the first delay (three months): BECAUSE things are NOW moving forward ...” {3-7, http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=5024}. Notice that the “delay” referred to was already completed at the time (February 7); therefore, I was not talking about a short time from then until the bam—instead, I was talking about a short delay in January that was already history by February 7. Since the delay was already past, then things would move forward from that point.
And indeed, the very next day (February 8) things did move forward with Murray in court for the very first time (after months of delays). If there had not been a long delay (months), Murray would’ve been in court last fall (unless MJ chose to bam first). So the long and short delays that I talked about were not necessarily referring to bam at the end of the delays; they could’ve ended with a bam, or else moving forward with the court case (and the “piece by piece” return process, which is not the same as the bam).
Notice also that I never referred to a bam date until Update #4; and even when I used “return” in the same sense as the bam (the end of the return), I never said anything about the return ending (the bam) at any time between January (in Update #1) and July (in Update #4). Many thought that Easter was a probable bam date, because of the resurrection theme (and also MLK assassination); but I have always said that the resurrection was 9-9-09, so 4-4-10 would not be the resurrection date.
As far as my statements about the TII movie, and the public knowing MJ was alive: I have discussed this a little previously, but I will go into it more now. When I first talked about the movie, it was still in the editing process; so things could’ve been included or left out. And I’m telling you now that there were some things about the hoax which were left out of the cinema version; but we will yet see them (maybe hidden in DVD Easter eggs, and/or future releases, etc). Remember that we still have not seen the funeral footage, which most think was recorded for a movie (and not just a personal documentary).
Even with the things left out of the cinema version, MJ could’ve decided to bam on Halloween—just a few days after the movie came out. He did not choose to bam then, and a major reason (not necessarily the only reason) was that many of us did not understand his message yet.
I will admit that I did strongly indicate something big around Halloween; and in fact, it wasn’t just Halloween—I did the same basic thing three different times: 9-9-09, Halloween, and January. And these three cases parallel with the three “R’s” which I used when referring to the TII movie being rated “R”: Resurrection (9-9-09), MJ hoax Revealed (around Halloween), and Return (January).
If anyone remembers clear back to 9-9-09, expectations ran high on that day. I personally did not expect the bam on that day, although it could’ve been; in fact, any day can be the bam day. And although I did write the thread which helped to get the expectations high on 9-9-09, I carefully worded things to leave room for no bam on that day; and I pointed out that wording, after the day came and went. And if you carefully read Update #1 & #2 (as well as TIAI Revealed, Part 6), you will see that I also left room for no bam in January.
In all three of these cases (9-9-09, Halloween, and January): there was a realistic possibility of a bam—and especially the last two. Nevertheless, even though there was no bam, there were significant events which fit very well with the three “R” ratings. The 9-9-09 “Resurrection”: movie poster, movie 7 weeks later, and autopsy finalized (you need a dead body for an autopsy, so no resurrection until finalized). The TII death hoax “Revealed” through Gilda, no RIP, bam after the credits, etc. The piece by piece by piece “Return” process, which has really kicked in major since January—and could easily be counted as starting on 1-18-2010, when the Jacksons mentioned the hoax for the very first time {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}.
Especially after the third time that I did this (and also several other bam date predictions from others), many people were getting tired of the bam dates; and some were hurt from the disappointments. Since I did not want that to happen again: after January, I greatly reduced my emphasis on potential bam dates.
However, although I do not want anyone to get their hopes up very high, there is a realistic possibility of the bam coming in June or July. Again, any day could be the bam day; and as many have stated, maybe MJ will bam on a day least expected. Yet I do not expect a bam before June at the soonest.
There are three or four interesting dates in June, including the 26th—which is a full moon, the anniversary of Elvis’s last concert (Indianapolis), and only one day after the MJ “death” anniversary. July 4 is also a distinct possibility, which has already been mentioned by me and others. But again, please don’t get your hopes up very much; just wait and see, and if there’s no bam don’t lose faith—remember that Jermaine said: “It’s all going to come out” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0SoaOe-cs}. Until then, keep the faith no matter what happens!!!
TIAI Update #5c is next. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9891}
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I totally agree with you on 5-4, exactly my thoughs :D
I always believed that only if he's really dead he won't be back, otherwise the hoax has no sense.
Now let's read 5-5 :)
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Thank you TS. I especially appreciated the emphasis on the fact that believing that Michael is still alive cannot go without believing in his return. Both are complementary and inseparable.
Looking forward to read next update. God bless you.
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Thanks a lot TS for explaining point after point again!
There are still many who think that MJ will never come back (bam); this has been discussed before, but not settled. So it’s time to address this subject in greater detail. As I said in Update #4d (4-41), “Bam: Not If, But When”. This is important for us to understand, because we can actually have an influence on the “when”; the better we all understand MJ’s message, the safer it will be for him to bam—and the more successful we will be in spreading his message, when countless people come to the hoax forums asking questions.
In Update #4d (4-39), I said: “And keep watching for more such events; we should see them coming more and more, now that we are in the return process {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=97}.” This link in Update #4 was to the sub-forum: “The Hoax Mentioned in the Media”; and at that time (March 14), there were only about three or four threads there (see the start dates on the threads). Now, there are more than twenty; and this number will continue to increase, as more and more catch on to the hoax.
I think this also perfectly answers one of the most prominent questions of the last 3 days on these boards...
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5:13 am :D
Thank you TS!
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow: All the complexities and clues in this hoax would not be needed, if MJ were merely planning to go into permanent hiding. He could’ve done a much simpler death hoax, if he only wanted normalcy. Furthermore, he was already fading from media attention before “THIS IS IT”; plus he could’ve used disguises, and/or changed his looks (hair length, hair color, plastic surgery, etc)—without even a death hoax—if his only goal was to get out of the media spotlight.
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:!: Thanks TS!
I'm looking forward to read the next update.. :arrow:
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as about the bam day, expect the unexpected - as I understand.
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Thanks TS. Going to re-read it in the morning again...but I totally agree with this part:
" If we accept the clues that he is still alive, and faked his death: then many of those very same clues also tell us that he will be back. If we don’t accept the “will be back” part of the clues, then there is no point accepting the “still alive” part of the clues. Take it or leave it, all or none; but please don’t take half and leave half!"
I have always thought if MJ wanted to get away from everything by faking his death he would do so seemlessly and without leaving all the clues for people to pick up.....which then also leads to the fact of why would he want people to know he faked his death unless he was going to return?!
Thank you so much TS and Michael Jackson wherever you are :D
xxx
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Thank you SO MUCH TS !!!
That' what I'm screaming all these months !!!
WHY ON EARTH to leave all these clues if he never wanted to come back !
And what a better motivation for the people around the world, to understand his message , but MICHEL JACKSON himself !
What greatest proof they'll need to understand , not to believe the media and look around them to see what really happens in this world !
Again , thanks ! 8-)
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“Bam: Not If, But When”. This is important for us to understand, because we can actually have an influence on the “when”; the better we all understand MJ’s message, the safer it will be for him to bam—and the more successful we will be in spreading his message"
LOVED this part :!: :!: :!:
Thank You TS, can't wait for update #c ;)
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Thank you very much to spread faith! :mrgreen:
we are here waiting to Him and he knows it!!!!!!!!!! ;)
L.O.V.E.
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This post was so needed TS, thank you. Piece by piece by piece the world will know they are in for a surprise! :lol:
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Wow. That's alot. But I read every word.
Thank you for taking the time and putting it all out there.
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Thank you TS. This is me keeping the faith. One love.
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Hello TS,
First, thanks for responding to my question about the religious text. I figured that redirect was in response to my post. Secondly, I have a few questions and I am not sure if you'll be able to fit your answer in this update. I've noticed so many people depending on Michael to deliver the message to the general public, almost as a guide to help everyone "get it". I've always figured that in order for him to "bam," it's up to us to get the message and deliver it in our individual way, which would determine when he'll come back. Are you saying in this update that he would have to come back in order for him to deliver the message to us, believers or in order to deliver the message to the general public that is not paying attention? Should we wait around for him to come back or should we start to act right now on the message so that he'll come back?
I've just been noticing people being disappointed because he hasn't come back yet and they are waiting for him to bring the truth and love in their individual lives, which I think defeats the purpose. I think it's really up to us find the truth for ourselves and to be a guide for our own lives, not waiting for him to do it for us. I think that is part of the reason why the bam hasn't happened yet because like you said, people aren't getting the message and perhaps people aren't ACTING on that message enough. In my honest opinion, I always thought it is better to save yourself then to wait for a savior to come along. In fact, the savior that you are waiting for is yourself. Of course, I'm asking these questions with love and I hope I am clear in my delivery of my questions and my point. If not, I'm glad to bring some clarity and I apologize if you've answered these questions and I'm just not getting it myself.
In closing, thanks for everything that you've posted thus far. I always look forward to your updates.
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Thanks TS for helping us to wake up . Much appreciated. Bring on the BAM.
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Thank you TS, oh I mean Michael, oh I mean TS......... :D
I have been waiting with baited breath for your next updates, and this is getting so so good, I can't wait for the day he (you) does come back.......and BAM everyone will go :o and all of us here will go :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
The information on this website is PRICELESS!!!
I love you MJ...........and your messages... its all for L.O.V.E.
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Thanks so much TS...
I'm sure we can influence the date of Bamsday.. our goal is spread Michael's message!!
He really did this for Love so we don't have ask every moment when he will come back but we have help him in this great adventure!!
Thanxxxxx!!! ;)
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Oh yes and one more thing.
THANK YOU Mo and Souza for your dedication and wisdom on going forth to bring out all the information you have, and for all your timeless energy that has gone into this website, it's amazing......
Thank you , Thank you, Thank you.. :D :D :D
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Really when will be the BAM'sDAY but before how can we feel the really BAM when we don't feel THE LOVE!!! YES THE REAL QUESTION IS WHEN WE'LL WAKE UP??..
good pep please... if u are not going to get that love..
..please GOD sends MIKE here to reunite us..TO LEARN US HO TO BE PLANET LOVE!
PLEASE FEEL..ALL THE LOVE FROM ME FOR ALL OF YOU AND TS .. GOD BLESS YOU ALL! START THAT CHANGE RIGHT NOW!!
keep updating via twitter[ @PYThing7] or better e-mail: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login .. PLEASE JOIN an army of L.O.V.E. ..ALL OF US MUST FEEL THAT! THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT WILL BE ON 25 MAY ON WEBSITES . WE MUST BE TOGHETER..PLEASE JOIN FOR LOVE, GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
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R/r is the 18th letter of the Alphabet, so 1+8=9 is referring to I/i??? :shock:
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TS thanks as always not flat after reading you positive energy.
KINGdom52, so if Michael wanted to disappear forever why they leave so many clues and taking the time to explain all this.
As TS says, instead of wondering when?, We must difindir the message.
smoothcriminal wrote:
Thank you TS, oh I mean Michael, oh I mean TS.........
I think so. :lol:
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Thank you so much TS. The BAM can be on the 25th of July too. There will be Full Moon again. And the date is 2+5=7 7.7.3 which is interesting :D
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I didn't think the possible BAM dates were serious predictions but a way to focus attention on why a particular date would fit with the hoax.
I'm not waiting for BAM just yet. I want to see Dr Murray's courtcase play out with eager journalists earnestly reporting the details without noticing all the inconsistencies. I think that would be :lol: .
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THAAAAANK YOUUUUU TS !!!
Everyday we wait for your redirections :D
And when we can read you this is a joyful moment ..
I'm agree with all that you said !!
thank you so much..from the bottom of my heart <3
Michael knows we are there ..until the end of time !
God bless you <3<3<3
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5-13 at 5:13am ;)
Fantastic TS!!!!! Thank you! God Bless!
Patiently waiting for update #5c :) :)
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I most definitely prefer this part of the update! Anything to do with the comeback/return has ALWAYS been the best part of the hoax for me (oooooooh, the sweet anticipation ;))!!
I simply CANNOT WAIT FOR THE "IT/BAM" TO FINALLY HAPPEN!!!
:D :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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! Zisis hello! , How are you, some days you were not around here :lol:
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But again, please don’t get your hopes up very much; just wait and see, and if there’s no bam don’t lose faith—remember that Jermaine said: “It’s all going to come out” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0SoaOe-cs}. Until then, keep the faith no matter what happens!!!
TIAI Update #5c is next. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}
Thank you, TS.
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Thank you TS!
I’ll wait till the end. ;)
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As my friend says:
Yes the real question is WHEN ? Not when the Bamsday ! But WHEN will the "fans" wake up?
All the reasons for the hoax (environment,4 years,expose the media & NWO,etc)
This is important for us to understand, because we can actually have an influence on the “when”; the better we all understand MJ’s message, the safer it will be for him to bam—and the more successful we will be in spreading his message, when countless people come to the hoax forums asking questions.
This is VERY CLEAR! I Have Been Talking About this since December!
Laziness and Self-indulgence is delaying the Bam! Can You See This???
Where is the ARMY OF L.O.V.E??
Me and some incredible people, we can't do it alone! We need HELP!
please, realize that only to talk about the bam... nothing will happen!
Some of you need to act!
spread the words NEW WORLD ORDER!
This is It! Move your ass!!!!!!!! (with love LOL)
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OK, now let me tell you I don't understand too much of this NWO.
Who are the people behind, what motivates them, what's their plan, etc. is it good or bad?!?
It's like being blind and you ask us to go to battle blind as we are.
To fight what?!
I feel powerless about this, to tell you the truth.
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To fight what?!
I feel powerless about this, to tell you the truth.
Knowledge is our weapon ;)
Check This Out! viewforum.php?f=94 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=94)
It can help!
We're innocently standing by
Watching people lose their lives
It seems as if we have no voice
It's time for us to make a choice
Only God could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one
They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't take it
We've already had enough
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As my friend says:
Yes the real question is WHEN ? Not when the Bamsday ! But WHEN will the "fans" wake up?
All the reasons for the hoax (environment,4 years,expose the media & NWO,etc)
This is important for us to understand, because we can actually have an influence on the “when”; the better we all understand MJ’s message, the safer it will be for him to bam—and the more successful we will be in spreading his message, when countless people come to the hoax forums asking questions.
This is VERY CLEAR! I Have Been Talking About this since December!
Laziness and Self-indulgence is delaying the Bam! Can You See This???
Where is the ARMY OF L.O.V.E??
Me and some incredible people, we can't do it alone! We need HELP!
please, realize that only to talk about the bam... nothing will happen!
Some of you need to act!
spread the words NEW WORLD ORDER!
This is It! Move your ass!!!!!!!! (with love LOL)
You are SO right :mrgreen:
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TS:"If we accept the clues that he is still alive, and faked his death: then many of those very same clues also tell us that he will be back. If we don’t accept the “will be back” part of the clues, then there is no point accepting the “still alive” part of the clues. Take it or leave it, all or none; but please don’t take half and leave half!
Many thanks, TS: This is very important :to believe that Michael Jackson is alive and not leave anything half way, whatever happens, for continue to deepen and increase knowledge without fear for NWO
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Hmmm...I guess, being away for a bit, I had forgotten that the word "BAM" makes some of us distinctly 'uncomfortable' at times. Well, after the 'expectations' & ensuing disappointments that has happened over the course of the months, it's quite understandable too. But please allow me to elaborate on what I had meant by my use of the word "IT/BAM" here. The word BAM, to me, no longer means MJ materialising out of thin air, jumping out dancing from the shadows (like it had before ;) :oops: :lol: ). NOW, it just means the culmination of this hoax or the SOLID answers as a WHOLE (NOT just in bits & pieces) that have eluded us so far. Oh sure, we've made our speculations & drawn our own conclusions from OUR interpretation(s) of the "evidence", but nothing exactly concrete enough that we can stop wondering. In other words, this, to me, also means what Jermaine had alluded to by, "It's all going to come out". Something A LOT MORE than just hints, clues & other aspects of whodunits. Unfortunately, not ALL of us are blessed with equal amounts of/great multi-tasking skills/attention spans & oodles of patience/'dedication'/"faith". No, I'm NOT prepared to spend the rest of my life (or even the following 3-odd years!) wondering, speculating & fluctuating between the the extremities of hot & cold over this constantly! I look forward to the day I too can open 'another chapter' in my life :arrow: BUT, I realise that it's not that time for me YET. I think we shall all know for ourselves individually when it's going to be "IT" for us personally-EITHER way (with or without THE BAM aspect, I mean). Until then, I guess, I'm 'fated' to go on wondering & wandering... ;) :roll: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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Many thanks, TS: This is very important :to believe that Michael Jackson is alive and not leave anything half way, whatever happens, for continue to deepen and increase knowledge without fear for NWO
Yes, exactly! There are 'fans' accusing us of spreading fear. Sorry ... was Michael Luther King, Jr., the King of Love AKA Martin Luther King, Jr. spreading fear?? I don't think so ...
Ignorance scares me, not the truth!
Life is easy with closed eyes! ;)
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Many thanks, TS: This is very important :to believe that Michael Jackson is alive and not leave anything half way, whatever happens, for continue to deepen and increase knowledge without fear for NWO
Yes, exactly! There are 'fans' accusing us of spreading fear. Sorry ... was Michael Luther King, Jr., the King of Love AKA Martin Luther King, Jr. spreading fear?? I don't think so ...
Ignorance scares me, not the truth!
Life is easy with closed eyes! ;)
Yes, but how do we change that view of theirs? It is SO hard to spread word of the NWO on other boards, they are just so closed-minded- and not just them, pretty much everyone who doesn't believe in a hoax! I wish there was a certain way to make them see..
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Many thanks, TS: This is very important :to believe that Michael Jackson is alive and not leave anything half way, whatever happens, for continue to deepen and increase knowledge without fear for NWO
Yes, exactly! There are 'fans' accusing us of spreading fear. Sorry ... was Michael Luther King, Jr., the King of Love AKA Martin Luther King, Jr. spreading fear?? I don't think so ...
Ignorance scares me, not the truth!
Life is easy with closed eyes! ;)
Yes, but how do we change that view of theirs? It is SO hard to spread word of the NWO on other boards, they are just so closed-minded- and not just them, pretty much everyone who doesn't believe in a hoax! I wish there was a certain way to make them see..
.....dare i say...michael coming back??
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Many thanks, TS: This is very important :to believe that Michael Jackson is alive and not leave anything half way, whatever happens, for continue to deepen and increase knowledge without fear for NWO
Yes, exactly! There are 'fans' accusing us of spreading fear. Sorry ... was Michael Luther King, Jr., the King of Love AKA Martin Luther King, Jr. spreading fear?? I don't think so ...
Ignorance scares me, not the truth!
Life is easy with closed eyes! ;)
Yes, but how do we change that view of theirs? It is SO hard to spread word of the NWO on other boards, they are just so closed-minded- and not just them, pretty much everyone who doesn't believe in a hoax! I wish there was a certain way to make them see..
I just don't waste my time with who don't wanna see ... they will find the truth for themselves. Some people need more time than others.
I received a message from someone used to believe that Michael was everything(bad)that the media speaks ... he said that changed his mind after wacthing my video 'love is the answer' ... Believe me, People just need to have a chance! There is Still Hope! :)
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Oh of course I believe in hope! I just mean that it's difficult to spread the word..
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Oh of course I believe in hope! I just mean that it's difficult to spread the word..
i know ... :?
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Lawlz.
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Oh of course I believe in hope! I just mean that it's difficult to spread the word..
It's difficult, but not impossible.. :!:
There's nothing that can't be done If we raise our voice as one
:D
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Oh of course I believe in hope! I just mean that it's difficult to spread the word..
It's difficult, but not impossible.. :!:
There's nothing that can't be done If we raise our voice as one
:D
Yes, yes! Maximum Jaxson will be tough, though..lawlz again.
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Do u know how many people I've met -believers- that refuses to see the truth ?
Is like talking to the wall !
And not only that, but they also attack to others who see things differently, sayning that they talk BS, when they are the same people who believed that Michael would returned at Uri's show . :shock:
Not everybody is meant t be saved!
The truth is in front of your nose. If you choose not to see it, is your problem.
Not to mention that someone told me that TS & TIAI is here just to confuse people's minds :shock: it goes nowhere :o and that he's just playing :shock:
OK TS ! I got you !
You are the greatest mazochist EVER ! :shock: :lol: ;)
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... And I’m telling you now that there were SOME things about the hoax which were left out of the cinema version; but we will yet see them (maybe hidden in DVD Easter eggs, and/or future releases, etc)...
We KNOW this, HOW, exactly? :?
And, WHAT things :?:
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Update #5a posted Wednesday 1:12 pm London time
Update #5b posted Thursday 2:13 pm London time
Update #5c will be posted Friday 3:14 pm London time?
61 minutes in between... 6+1=7
Just a thought, I'm waiting 'patiently'... :lol:
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Update #c at 14:14(2:14)
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Dear TS,
Thank you so much for responding to my post. As you said I made that post just before your Update 4 and now I know that it was a little too early to write and ask you those. Wish I knew you were going to make Update 4 that soon, just after my post. I must confess that I had hesitations about you before Update 4. But after I read your update I became sure that you're an insider and trying to help us. And thank you so much for answering the questions that I had asked in my earlier post. I have just one question in my mind for you. Does Michael tell you about when he is going to come back or doesn't he? Or did he tell you the exact day but also asked from you not to give a specific date to us? We all know how much he likes to make surprises, so I guess he wants to surprise us all with his BAM. And speaking of BAM, I was confused about the delays in return dates because I had no idea that you were going to use "BAM" term for Michael's return. I thought "Return" is the term which you used to describe for Michael to come back in public view again. After your 4th Update we all learnt that you were going to use BAM instead of Return. Also I didn't have an idea about the Return process as well. Once more thank you so much for all of your replies and for the Updates. I appreciate your hard work so much. Thank you.
P.S: TS: "Likewise, all the reasons for the hoax (environment, 4 years, expose the media & NWO, etc)—these things will be much more effective, if MJ comes back and helps to draws major public attention to them."
I couldn't agree more with this. And that's one of the reasons why I'm curious about when he's coming back. Thank you.
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
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Hi Everyone:
I just wanted to say hi to all of you. I think all of you are doing such a great job with this investigation. I have been with you since the beginning, finally got my act together and joined you officially in March. My computer technology is poor, so I miss so much. I want you to know I am with you, all of you give me strength to carry on each day. We all have our owns lives but it's amazing how we pull together and devote so much time to Michael. Most days my head is spinning from all of this. I am thankful for Mo, Souza, TS, all of you and especially Michael because for 40 years he give me my strengths and principles to live my life by. He taught me that I can't dance or sing, but it's ok to get out there and do it anyway, He made me realize why I need God in my life, that there isn't any difference between black and white, to believe in myself and hold my head up high no matter what, to love, have faith, to care and to forgive. So for him and all of you, I am thankful. I am spending so much time spreading Michael's message. Of course you know how people think you are nuts when you start talking about him and the hoax. But after all this time, I need to tell you it is working! I have turned many non believers into believers. I think they felt sorry for me and started actually thinking about everything I was saying. It's working, they are thinking, investigating, talking about caring, faith, MEDIA awareness....the Environment!!!!!!! Huge! Also, it is so amazing to me how so MANY people either do not know about the NWO, illuminati, mind control....it's really scarey to me. I have found through many people that if they are scared they turn their backs on the subject. It's our job to educate. I read an article, I can't tell you where but of course it was about Michael. What struck me was and I can't quote, but....he felt everyone was a student and everyone was a teacher. We can all learn from each other and we can get out there and help change this world by opening the eyes of the people around us, one person at a time. One by one we will become one beautiful army of love. What ever happens, let's face it you know we are here to stay, right to the end. Let's do our best, work hard and get this job done! Let's educate and bring awareness to this world! I love you guys! Take Care!
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michael must love math and puzzles.. this one I have been working on for months, thankyou ts. TS IS IT ha.
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Beautiful message sandythyme
I want to say ..i love you all too ..everyone of you..<3<3
As Michael says "Everything is possible if God is on my side" never abandoned this idea..
We are "soldier of love" ..
;)
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sandythyme, good post to begin with, welcome to the army of love :lol:
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First of all thanks TS. Thanks for your great help
Michael promised us that the best was yet to come.
All this has changed my life, changed inside me, I have hope for the future and the people.I'm really living the magic and illusion. It´s wonderful. I just hope we can thank him some way.
We should not worry so much about the date of BAM, we know that is there and will return. That is important. You have to enjoy, getting things right and make it known to all as we can.
Michael can count with us. We will always be there for whatever you need.
I love you, angel.
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
Me either? :shock: :?
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
Me either? :shock: :?
It's not there yet... Maybe SUNday?
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
Me either? :shock: :?
It's not there yet... Maybe SUNday?
hmmm maybe. I'm so impatient to read Update 5c. :)
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O.k , so I was wondering why Update #5c didn't come yet ,so I decided to look back at #5a for clues ..Trying to be smart :geek:
Since first words:
#5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”
= DOTS , and
DO you Think 4 your Self
= DOTS , look at this :
#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info
First words : The Michael Zone = TMZ ? Maybe TS's Update #5c is about TMZ .. I mean with all the news of Murray being a hero .. Also :
#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?
SHOW ....
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
Me either? :shock: :?
It's not there yet... Maybe SUNday?
Yes, happy Birthday JanetXD
There are now around 1,500 sunflowers at the site...which should be enough to get MJ through the weekend.
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
Me either? :shock: :?
was only a possibility ... but I was wrong :lol:
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O.k , so I was wondering why Update #5c didn't come yet ,so I decided to look back at #5a for clues ..Trying to be smart :geek:
Since first words:
#5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”
= DOTS , and
DO you Think 4 your Self
= DOTS , look at this :
#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info
First words : The Michael Zone = TMZ ? Maybe TS's Update #5c is about TMZ .. I mean with all the news of Murray being a hero .. Also :
#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?
SHOW ....
Very nice work!! DOTS, DOTS, TMZ, and SHOW. Hmmm! Thank you whisper!! :shock:
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Update #5c 14:05 (2:05pm) :lol:
where is update #5c i can't find it!!!
Me either? :shock: :?
It's not there yet... Maybe SUNday?
Yes, happy Birthday JanetXD
There are now around 1,500 sunflowers at the site...which should be enough to get MJ through the weekend.
I just have a question, why is there a lot of users with sunflowers as their avatar? Should I put it? :oops:
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Thank you TIAI, Souza and Mo, that's for starters.
By now it is quite obvious that Michael Jackson was seriouly threatened by THEM, whoever they may be. I think that was the main reason for him to disappear.
Getting away from the media apparently was not that difficult, because nobody has been able to find him.
Should his return not depend on solving the treat against him first? For if he comes back THOSE who threatened and controlled him will go after him again.
Besides that: the media will crusify him for faking his death so they'll be after him too.
His message is not a new one for older fans know about what's going on in this world. At least some of them do. All through the years there have been documentaries about what is being done wrongly against Mother Earth. Those who didn't wish to acknowledge the foregoing information won't want to listen now.
In my opinion the only way he can re-appear is making a very very long film, explaining exactly why he hoaxed his death. He will have to explain who are or were the ones who threatened his life. What will be the concequences of that for Michael?
The complete conspiracy against him will have to be revealed by Michael himself with good evidence . I cannot imagine he can do that without creating a new threat against his life!
But hey, this is only my opinion and question to TIAI.
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Thank you TIAI, Souza and Mo, that's for starters.
By now it is quite obvious that Michael Jackson was seriouly threatened by THEM, whoever they may be. I think that was the main reason for him to disappear.
Getting away from the media apparently was not that difficult, because nobody has been able to find him.
Should his return not depend on solving the treat against him first? For if he comes back THOSE who threatened and controlled him will go after him again.
Besides that: the media will crusify him for faking his death so they'll be after him too.
His message is not a new one for older fans know about what's going on in this world. At least some of them do. All through the years there have been documentaries about what is being done wrongly against Mother Earth. Those who didn't wish to acknowledge the foregoing information won't want to listen now.
In my opinion the only way he can re-appear is making a very very long film, explaining exactly why he hoaxed his death. He will have to explain who are or were the ones who threatened his life. What will be the concequences of that for Michael?
The complete conspiracy against him will have to be revealed by Michael himself with good evidence . I cannot imagine he can do that without creating a new threat against his life!
But hey, this is only my opinion and question to TIAI.
I believe the same.I said this many times because it is how I feel..If Michael wanted to disappear it was because he feared for his life, he was in danger, and so might have his kids been..Why would he come back knowing the ones who wanted him dead and who were after him would still be there? He fooled them so I guess their rage would be twice the hate before the hoax.. Same goes for the media, they would be stalking him over and over for this..put it this way, those f*cking tabloids talked trash about him when they didn't even have a reason to do it, then imagine what would become of them after this..If he's at peace now WHY would he come back? We have clues that he might be alive, so that's what matters, we got his message (and yes, I agree with you on this one too "His message is not a new one for older fans know about what's going on in this world. At least some of them do. All through the years there have been documentaries about what is being done wrongly against Mother Earth. Those who didn't wish to acknowledge the foregoing information won't want to listen now. ", even if there're people who still must learn from this and open their eyes..).
We are here to find out the truth and what happened on 25th of June, and those who REALLY LOVE and RESPECT Michael will wait whatever it takes..
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I'm keeping the faith. So much has happened. So, so much. The layers are being peeled away.