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Title: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: TS on May 12, 2010, 07:12:19 AM
Update #5 covers four main subjects: the title, “THIS IS IT”; bamsday—not if, but when; the role of TMZ; and numerology objections answered.  You don’t need to read all of the previous updates to follow this update; but this one will make a lot more sense, if you have at least read Update #4 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7010}.  And here is the link for the whole series, just in case you have two or three minutes to spend on some light reading {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}.

NOTE : There are some important things in 5-2, the section on the redirections, which are not repeated anywhere else in this update; so don’t skip over that section, even if you are already familiar with all the redirects.

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5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5

Just like Update #4, this one is long enough that it’s broken into four parts.

#5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

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5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4

NOTE: There are some important things here in 5-2, which are not repeated anywhere else in this update; so don’t skip over this section, even if you are already familiar with all the redirects.

This third set of redirects (all between Update #4 & #5) will be labelled based on the date of the redirection; and then the numbers {in braces} indicate what section(s) in this update is on the same subject as that redirection.  In a few cases, a note will be included right after the redirect link.

3-25 {5d} MJalive999; video of Update #4. {http://www.youtube.com/user/MJalive999; see also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsiKRv8wKXk}

3-31 {5-9 & 5-10} PureLove; numerology proves no murder, no coma, etc. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=7925&start=50#p130209}

4-1 (April Fool’s Day) {5-1} SeeingClues; Connect The Dots, Fool.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7915}

4-2 {5c} TMZ Live 3-22; huge secret about MJ.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=7597#p123971}

4-3 Happy Birthday to Paris & GCM.
{http://lc.fdots.com/cc/lc/fe/fea2fa9e6eed3f55ffc034d351becf79.gif}

4-4 (Easter) {5-7} TMZ; Dr. Murray’s Defense - Jackson Killed Himself. {http://www.TMZ.com; see also http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-propofol-death-cause-iv-addict-overdose-heart-legal-defense/}

4-5 (Court) {5c} TMZ; MJ section, more TMZ articles on Murray case, etc. {http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/}

4-6 {5-7} KacyLovesMJ; TMZ redirect shortly before 4-4 article.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199#p134157}

4-7 {5c} Sarahli; TMZ & TS roles. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199&start=25#p136301}

4-8 {5-10} jacilovesmichael; all planned by MJ, even if suicide.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8402#p138586}

4-9 {5-8} darkchild; TMZ dual roles. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8223#p136379}

4-10 {5-6 & 5-8} 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (The Message); don’t be gullible, etc.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20thessalonians%205:19-22&version=MSG}

4-11 {5-6} Souza; Harvey the beLIEver and his grassy knoll theory.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8536}

4-12 {5-6} Fox; JFK poll. {http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102511,00.html}

4-13 {5-6} TMZ Live 4-12; MJ “Absolutely, unquestionably alive.”
{http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/?mediaKey=1dae706d-e702-4ae1-8632-c5517fbef207&isShareURL=true}

4-14 {5c} patman; TMZ and MJ connections. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8559}

4-15 (IRS tax day) julia142; MJ donations to needy children.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8728}
NOTE: the love for children was correct, and donations of course; but the legality of the hoax was not the reason for this redirect—that was already addressed in Update #4 (4-36).

4-16 {5-8} mjssoulmate; TMZ said MJ death was going down a “rabbit hole” (ARG).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8589#p142526}

4-17 {5c} TMZ warranties; disclaimers for everything, no liability.
{http://www.tmz.com/terms/#warranties}

4-18 {5c} Souza; don’t be mad if TMZ posts stuff not true (MJ dies, etc).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8812#p146046}

4-19 {5-8} katzmeowstudio; 15th anniversary of Murrah bombs (17th Waco).
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B4vbO67Bp4}

4-20 {5-6} JukeBox; TMZ Mike says MJ “100% not alive.”
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8945}

4-21 {5-6} Gina Jackson; previous 4 redirects are about media lies, etc.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8945&start=25#p148206}

4-22 (Earth Day) Lyrics007; Earth Song lyrics, no music so you’ll read the words.
{http://www.lyrics007.com/Michael%20Jackson%20Lyrics/Earth%20Song%20Lyrics.html}

4-23 {5b} Hebrews 10:23; keep the faith, without wavering.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2010:23&version=KJV}

4-24 {5b} Hebrews 11:1, NLT; faith that what we hope for will happen.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%2011:1&version=NLT}

4-25 {5-11} THE JACKSONOLOGIST; MJ “read the Bible daily” (bodyguard).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9098&start=0&hilit=bible+daily}
NOTE: this redirect was especially in response to a recent question about TS quoting the Bible. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9089#p151356}

4-26 {5-8} ladyandbird; someone feeds TMZ, they are a big key in this.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=8553#p141334}

4-27 {5-6} TMZ Live 2-9; Harvey says Murray did not intend to kill MJ.
{http://www.tmz.com/tmz-live/?mediaKey=87528285-1804-40c5-af23-fa22a0910b93&isShareURL=true}

4-28 {5} MJalive999; TIAIrevealed comment, Update #5 coming in May.
{http://www.youtube.com/user/MJalive999#profile-comment-5922805D2D464753}

4-29 {5-3} thehdcrowd; Michael Jackson’s THIS IS IT (notice the font).
{http://www.thehdcrowd.com/screenshots/michael_jacksons_this_is_it_2.png}

4-30 {5-3} timeinc; same THIS IS IT, with dancers.
{http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/mj_final_show/mj_final_show_stage.jpg}

5-1 {5-5 & 5-11} Wikipedia; 234 year anniversary of Illuminati (also 7-4-1776).
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1776}

5-2 {5-5 & 5-11} MJFAN7; 777 + 999 = 1776 (see Update #4, 4-21).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9312#p155342}

5-3 {5-12} Sarahli; it’s an alternate reality game (ARG), we can influence the hoax.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=8849#p147144}

5-4 {5-12} Happy Birthday to Katherine & Jackie (also one month since 4-4 tweet).
{http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS}

5-5 {5-12} “Jackson Fans are an army of L.O.V.E. The media should take notice.”
{http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS/status/10355780029}
NOTE: This tweet is the very last one, on the bottom of the ALLJACK5ONS main twitter page (redirect for 5-4).  If they tweet once more, it will fall off the bottom of the page (and most “media” will not bother to click “more”, and see previous tweets).  Notice that this was tweeted the same day that TIAI Update #4b was posted {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7064}; and notice that the “army of LOVE” is only mentioned in Update #4b (not #4a, #4c, or #4d).  Also, this tweet is similar to the January 18 tweet about the “media” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3965}.  And who would the media need to “take notice” off, if not hoax believers?  In Update #4 (4-39), I included a link to a Ninanina thread about this 3-11 tweet; here is that link again {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7155}.

5-6 {5-10} mjfansince4; Kenny & MJ go way back, MJ learned to trust him.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9213#p153332}

5-7 {5-10} StargazerMJ11 (Part 2); Reasons Not To Believe In Murder.
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4oV1A_glDA}

5-8 {5-7} MJJSmile; TMZ 4/4/ at 4am, last TS update 4-44!
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199&start=0#p134380}

5-9 {5-7} Adi; TS does not work for TMZ, etc.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=8199&start=25#p137728}

5-10 {5-4 & 5-9} Elvis?????
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FshnSFpg4}

5-11 {5} JukeBox; Update #5 coming in May, I can’t wait!!
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9211#p153329}

5-12 {5} TS posts; watching for Update #5. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}

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5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

Okay, so now it’s time to reveal another big “piece” in the “piece by piece” return process (see 5-5, below).  The title “THIS IS IT” has several layers of hoax information embedded in it; most are already aware of layers one and two, but the other layers will now be revealed for the first time.

Before going into the specific layers, notice that the title is the same forwards and backwards—except for the letter “H”.  Layers one and two are based upon the first letter of each word: “THIS IS IT”.  Layers three and four are based upon the other letters in the first word: “THIS IS IT”.  Layers five and six are based upon the only vowels in the title: “THIS IS IT”.  And layer seven is the other letters, which are not underlined in the previous layers: “THIS IS IT”.

Layer one: TII = THIS IS IT (which has more than one meaning: it means the “end”, or “death”; it also means “this is what MJ has been planning”, etc).

Layer two: TII = Thriller II (“II” for Roman numeral “2”); the real-life Thriller!

Layer three: starting with the “H” (which is unique, because it’s the only letter not repeated), you have a three-letter word “HIS”.  These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory}.  Layers three through six here all show that “THIS IS IT” has been in the planning since the early 1990’s (or before).

Layer four: Since “THIS IS IT” is nearly the same forwards and backwards: we look at these same three letters backwards (SIH), and find something very interesting.  If we use a very common system of putting a numerical value to each number (A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, etc), we come up with: S = 19; I = 9, and H = 8; 1998!  This is the same number that is on the “Dangerous” album cover in 1991 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_(album); http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/710568}—and also the same number that MJ signed in various autographs {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7064}.  This fact should leave no doubt that 1998 is indeed a coded number which MJ intended for the TII death hoax.

Layer five: Using the same system of numerical values in layer four, we see that the only vowels in “THIS IS IT” are the letter “I” (= 9) three times—999!  This is yet another strong evidence of 9-9-09 and the hoax; and it is also another very strong connection between 1998 (layer four) and 999 (layer five).

Layer six: Notice that the font used for “THIS IS IT” is rather simple {http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2009/mj_final_show/mj_final_show_stage.jpg}, so that the “I” could be either the 9th letter of the alphabet (capital “I”, not lower case “i”)—or it also looks like a simple sans-serif number “1” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans_serif}.  Hence, the three vowels are also three numbers: 111.  One hundred and eleven is the length of the TII movie; and it is also the basis for all of the MJ hoax numerology: 333, 666, 777, 999, 1221, 1776, 1998 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=7124}.  The fact that all of these numbers can be divided evenly by 111 proves, with tsunami force, that it could not possibly be just the result of random chance—it positively had to be planned!  This also verifies that the Dangerous autograph formula is indeed three sixes, not “600” or “660”.

Layer seven: Other than the letter “H”, there are seven letters that read the same forwards and backwards: T I S I S I T.  Three of these letters are vowels (layers five and six); and the other four letters are two very interesting consonants, mirrored forwards and backwards.

TIAI Update #5b is next.  {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=9763}
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 12, 2010, 07:32:57 AM
Finally!!! Now let's read it  :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Puff on May 12, 2010, 07:35:22 AM
Thank you TS! I'm looking forward to your next update!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: sailya on May 12, 2010, 07:45:21 AM
Thank you.
I LOVE YOU ALL & GOD BLESS  :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: chappie on May 12, 2010, 07:50:46 AM
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: looking4truth on May 12, 2010, 07:56:50 AM
Quote
These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory}.

This reminds me of BACK from MJJ Community when he said "Check your future HIStory books" When I have time, I can link you to the posting. It was way before June 25, 2009. And another great update! I can't wait to read more. This is really incredible. Only MJ would be this precise.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 12, 2010, 07:57:42 AM
Wow, I am impressed.

Thanks for thinking 4 us  :D

7 layers in This is it- really impressive.
Can't wait for the 5b
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 12, 2010, 07:57:57 AM
Wow it's clearer now we all wondered why THIS IS IT. Thank you for this great explanation TS, look forward for the rest. It was really worth the wait. Michael is really a genius. God bless him.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: looking4truth on May 12, 2010, 07:59:09 AM
Quote from: "chappie"
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap

Yup... and 5 + 1 + 2 + 1 =9 AND 1 + 2 + 1 + 2 = 6
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on May 12, 2010, 08:00:31 AM
you used my Alphabet Routine :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

I'm speechless now!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 12, 2010, 08:05:14 AM

Thank you TS!  

Your post again points out that there are clearly no coincidences in this case, everything is so carefully planned...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 12, 2010, 08:05:51 AM
But I don't understand why you say the 7 layers are pieces in the return process :?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: superflysister81 on May 12, 2010, 08:06:56 AM
Thank you TS, we've been waiting for so long!
Now I can't wait for #5b   :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Gina Jackson on May 12, 2010, 08:07:30 AM
Quote from: "Puff"
Thank you TS! I'm looking forward to your next update!

Ok go ahead.....I'm reading with all attention....
Thank you TS...L.O.V.E. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on May 12, 2010, 08:07:47 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
But I don't understand why you say the 7 layers are pieces in the return process :?


Michael= 7 letters
Jackson= 7 letters
..........maybe???  :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: chappie on May 12, 2010, 08:17:59 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Thank you TS!  

Your post again points out that there are clearly no coincidences in this case, everything is so carefully planned...

Mo,
I told you so....;)
When can i come over for my price?
Chap
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 12, 2010, 08:22:30 AM
Quote from: "reasonables+luvs+MJ"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
But I don't understand why you say the 7 layers are pieces in the return process :?


Michael= 7 letters
Jackson= 7 letters
..........maybe???  :)

I think I was wrong. 7 layers of hoax information  :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 12, 2010, 08:23:30 AM
Quote from: "chappie"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

Thank you TS!  

Your post again points out that there are clearly no coincidences in this case, everything is so carefully planned...

Mo,
I told you so....;)
When can i come over for my price?
Chap

Any time, if you really want to pick THAT thing up!  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: PureLove on May 12, 2010, 08:26:50 AM
I'm like  :o  at the moment. I'm falling in love with his genius everytime I read your updates TS. THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Delphi on May 12, 2010, 08:29:57 AM
Layers, now hmm?
*When you said layers, I couldn't help but think of an onion skin's peeling. You peel away until you get the actual onion that you can cook with. So it's like revealing a...truthy onion. And what are layers but puzzle pieces?  :)
I can dig it.  8-) Thanks for the intel. Can't wait for the next update!  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2010, 08:37:46 AM
Can't wait for the rest!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jm1lvmj on May 12, 2010, 08:48:33 AM
Brilliant, as always.  But I can almost guarantee that there will still be some who shout coincidence.  There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.  That's ok, though.  There are many who do see and are not afraid to admit it.  Thank you TS for this information.  One love.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Adi on May 12, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
WOW TS thank you so much!!!

So much work and planning!!!

I have been waiting for this Update and as usual they never cease to amaze me.

I have always thought here was something more in the title of This Is It and I did pick up a couple of the things you have told us about. Having watched the movie several times and seeing how the letters sort of fall down from reverse and come together from the ceiling and the sides at the beginning to form the words - I always felt it was significant in some way and also a bit later there is a shot of the reflection of the title This Is It on the shiny stage floor and the words are mirrored on the floor which reinforced this feeling.

LOVE this part in particluar too  - Layer seven: Other than the letter “H”, there are seven letters that read the same forwards and backwards: T I S I S I T. Three of these letters are vowels (layers five and six); and the other four letters are two very interesting consonants, mirrored forwards and backwards.

Using only the consonants in Layer 7 - TS forwards and Backwards   :)  :)  :)  

ISIS is in Layer 7 as well forwards and backwards if the vowels remain in place & the T's are removed  :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJJSmile on May 12, 2010, 09:29:25 AM
Thank you so much TS  :D
God bless you L.O.V.E.  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: somekindofsign on May 12, 2010, 09:30:39 AM
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TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?

No, it seems we let you do it for us.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: DeaCarvalho on May 12, 2010, 09:55:01 AM
:shock: Thank you, thank you and thank you once again, dear TS.

Oh boy! What should I do untill the next update?? *runs in circles*
Run TS, Run!! haha
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on May 12, 2010, 09:56:36 AM
I am completely speechless.

From the time this was posted to the very last word - genius.

For anyone who doesn't believe in the hoax: tell me who in the world would be able to plan these things to make it SEEM like a hoax? LOL - the only person I can think of who would be willing and able to do that IS Michael Jackson. So... how can this not be a hoax?!

This is about to get bigger and more real. I can feel it. I don't care how long it takes. We are not crazy...and we play a big role in this. Thank you TS! And thanks to everyone who has dedicated portions of their lives to researching and hoping and not giving up but holding on for the TRUTH.

Can't wait for the rest of this update...and I can't wait for the BAM! But I will wait as long as needed  :) Remember guys....not IF but WHEN!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: FEDE on May 12, 2010, 09:59:33 AM
Thank you so much TS!
Any time I read your update I discover a piece of this hoax and I'm amazed about Michael's intelligence.

I'm weating for next uptade.... Thanxxxx!!!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2010, 10:10:25 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote
TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?

No, it seems we let you do it for us.


Why the sarcasm? I think TS has proved to have valuable info many times now, so I don't get why you have to comment like that.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: stranger in moscow on May 12, 2010, 10:15:24 AM
thank you so much TS!!!
i can't wait for the next step!!! :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJalive999 on May 12, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Thank you TS!

Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote
TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?

No, it seems we let you do it for us.

DOTS

wHy do you have to be so ''nice''??

Hun, no one is forcing you to read this!
If you don't like TS/TIAI please, leave us alone!
But don't be so sarcastic we've had enough!
Thanks! Love to you!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: RK on May 12, 2010, 10:49:59 AM
I've been waiting for this update and it's here...yay. Always knew that this hoax had been planned for a long time. Thanks for confirming that TS. Such detail and precision, it really amazes me. Thankyou.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
Connect the DO you Think 4 your Self?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: rasyte on May 12, 2010, 10:59:49 AM
thank you TS !  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJonmind on May 12, 2010, 11:00:53 AM
Today is going to be a very good day! Thanks TS! My son said to me yesterday, "Well since it's been a year that proves that Michael is really dead."  Not so fast, it's just building for a greater BAM! I'm in awe!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 12, 2010, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Thank you TS!

Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote
TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?

No, it seems we let you do it for us.

DOTS

wHy do you have to be so ''nice''??

Hun, no one is forcing you to read this!
If you don't like TS/TIAI please, leave us alone!
But don't be so sarcastic we've had enough!
Thanks! Love to you!

I second that MJalive999.

Next to that:

Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote
TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?

No, it seems we let you do it for us

Thank you somekindofsign, for speaking on behalf of your fellow believers including me by using the words "we" and "us", but I assure you I can think and speak for myself.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: itsall4luv on May 12, 2010, 11:26:29 AM
TS . . . thank you, thank you, thank you!  I am filled with gratitude. Can't wait to read your next post. God Bless!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on May 12, 2010, 11:39:35 AM
Wow TS, thanks again!

I had always known there was more to the title, THIS IS IT, especially after (back in September/October) we all started talking about "TII  = Thriller II"

But thank you! Can't wait for Update #5b!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: still looking on May 12, 2010, 11:48:12 AM
ADI said:
Using only the consonants in Layer 7 - TS forwards and Backwards    
ISIS is in Layer 7 as well forwards and backwards if the vowels remain in place & the T's are removed


You can check out ISIS here: http://www.akhet.co.uk/isisosir.htm. Egyptian Gods,ISIS was wife to OSIRIS who was BELOVED by all ...yet he was cleverly murdered by a  "jealous brother".  After much ado OSIRIS becomes King of Underworld/ AFTERLIFE and is always depicted in  lime green . Same as "lil green man " in WATW-25 and all throughout TII , MJ is bathed in lime green lights. It is ISIS that breathes life back into OSIRIS after death so they could conceive a child . Being King of Underworld , Osiris is known as the KING OF REBIRTH. He never dies , he resurrects. Lime Green color is the color of rebirth.(Look at the OSIRIS picture in the link).
So, if This Is It also holds the clue "ISIS" that leads you to OSIRIS (MJ). Paraphrased: The "movie TII" is breathing new life into MJ. As we now know with its incredible success it has indeed breathed "new Life " into the reputation of the ENTERTAINER known as Michael Jackson. But it is the MAN behind the stage dude who plots this "Rebirth".
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Elsa on May 12, 2010, 11:57:49 AM
:shock:
Thanks TS Code or is that Code TS?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on May 12, 2010, 12:56:26 PM
Amazing again TS!! God bless you !  :D

*Patiently* Waiting for Update #5b!  ;)


Quote from: "~Souza~"
Connect the DO you Think 4 your Self?

 ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: StargazerMJ11 on May 12, 2010, 01:22:27 PM
Brilliant! Thanks TS - it's a whole different way of thinking but it's bringing a lot of depth & meaning to our doorsteps & I can't thank you enough for that.Can't wait for the next update.
Lots of love xxx
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on May 12, 2010, 01:24:30 PM
Anyone else notice the time changed on this post?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on May 12, 2010, 01:30:26 PM
Thankyou, TS. This is so complex and genious.  I feel honoured that I have been able to experience what we are experiencing in this "alternate reality".  I'm looking forward to the next installment and beyond!   :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2010, 01:44:57 PM
Quote from: "chappie"
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap

The time indeed changed... How does he do that?

It's now Wed May 12, 2010 1:12
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on May 12, 2010, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "chappie"
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap

The time indeed changed... How does he do that?

It's now Wed May 12, 2010 1:12


I'm seeing this: Wed May 12, 2010 6:12 am

I am all confused! lol
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: _Dangerous_ on May 12, 2010, 01:51:00 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "chappie"
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap

The time indeed changed... How does he do that?

It's now Wed May 12, 2010 1:12
dont u guys live in different countries?
i.e : i dont have ''12-20-10-12-12''  it's diff from here  :|
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 12, 2010, 02:03:58 PM

The time difference depends on the time zone you select in your profile.

TS mentioned in a previous post that all times refer to the time zone Los Angeles is in.  That means that this post was done at 4.12AM.

(4 + 1 + 2 = 7 -> Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2010, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "chappie"
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap

The time indeed changed... How does he do that?

It's now Wed May 12, 2010 1:12


I'm seeing this: Wed May 12, 2010 6:12 am

I am all confused! lol

The board is standard set on London time. First post was 12:12 pm London time. Now it is 1:12 pm London time.

If you see another time, it means you have the time set to your own time.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on May 12, 2010, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "chappie"
Wed May 12, 2010 12:12

12-20-10-12-12
You were waiting for the right time....;)
Chap

The time indeed changed... How does he do that?

It's now Wed May 12, 2010 1:12


I'm seeing this: Wed May 12, 2010 6:12 am

I am all confused! lol

The board is standard set on London time. First post was 12:12 pm London time. Now it is 1:12 pm London time.

If you see another time, it means you have the time set to your own time.

Gotcha! Maybe I'll just set it to London time then :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: mjj4ever777 on May 12, 2010, 02:12:47 PM
Thanks TS...I can't wait for the next update! I BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: lilwendy on May 12, 2010, 02:17:17 PM
Oh I thought that he posted it at May 12 at 5:12am.  That would make sense to me... very TS like.  5/12 5:12am  5+1+2+5+1+2 = 16 1+6=7  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: DaveNax on May 12, 2010, 02:29:17 PM
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...

Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?

I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.

Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?

I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.

Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...



Love u more...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: PYThing7 on May 12, 2010, 02:35:34 PM
this is my first post here..i read every day but i didn't post..cause until now ''my home'' i can say, was the other big site michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net..
But now i'm postin' here cause ...i want all of you to know...
let me ask you all one thing about all that really matter: ..we feel M is alive, right???..we're waiting for the ''bam'',right???..just need to say...GOOD PEP.. WE ALL FEEL WHAT'S ''THE BAM''...let me remaind u then.. THE BAM = THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN THE WORLD ...yeah that's why WE MUST MAKE THAT CHANGE.. cause his is just for L.O.V.E. ..and we must be PLANET LOVE..this is why our Mike made this .. THE WHOLE HOAX IS JUST FOR THE BIGGEST CHANGE EVER.. IS FOR UNITE US, TO BE TOGHETER AS ONE FOR THE BAM.. DO U GOT THIS?

And now..hope you all understand what i mean..now dosen't matter who we are , where we are.. TS  i want to ask u someting..i really don't want to be rude...BUT..how can we all know when will be ''THE BAM'' or why or whatever else if we don't feel the LOVE.. i don't say or  anybody else don't feel but please... just doesn't matter who get the clues first or find anything else.. MATTER WE ARE ALL A FAMILY! MATTER WE LEARN TO LOVE.. yeah..this is what we really need... L.O.V.E.=OUR  MIKE..AGREE?
i just wanna say o love u all..all of you..and yeah MIKE WILL BE THERE ..CAUSE GOD AEND HIM TO HELP US REUNITE..KEEP THE FAITH IN GOD AND TRUST MIKE!!!
WE DON'T NEED PRESS ..WE DON'T NEED LIES !! WE NEED LOVE..AND MIKE IS THE LOVE SENDS BY GOD..TRUST..

[announcement]
so soon i'll begin a big ''CHANGE''..we must start this..THAT CHANGE.. that is for MIKE from all the fans..soon all the humans.. to THANKS GOD FOR THIS LOVE.. updating here on the website ,sure if i'll have your accord [and TS' accord sure]  on twitter : @PYThing7 and other big websites..updating their names so soon. The official announcement  soon.. maybe 1 june..this will be exactly how must be , trust:)
all the love from me for all of you..i really love you...don't forget : KEEP THE FAITH IN GOD AND TRUST MIKE!! L.O.V.E...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: chappie on May 12, 2010, 02:53:50 PM
Okay, so now it’s time to reveal another big “piece” in the “piece by piece” return process (see 5-5, below).  The title “THIS IS IT” has several layers of hoax information embedded in it; most are already aware of layers one and two, but the other layers will now be revealed for the first time.

Before going into the specific layers, notice that the title is the same forwards and backwards—except for the letter “H”.  Layers one and two are based upon the first letter of each word: “THIS IS IT”.  Layers three and four are based upon the other letters in the first word: “THIS IS IT”.  Layers five and six are based upon the only vowels in the title: “THIS IS IT”.  And layer seven is the other letters, which are not underlined in the previous layers: “THIS IS IT”.

Layer one: TII = THIS IS IT (which has more than one meaning: it means the “end”, or “death”; it also means “this is what MJ has been planning”, etc).

Layer two: TII = Thriller II (“II” for Roman numeral “2”); the real-life Thriller!

Layer three: starting with the “H” (which is unique, because it’s the only letter not repeated), you have a three-letter word “HIS”.  These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory}.  Layers three through six here all show that “THIS IS IT” has been in the planning since the early 1990’s (or before).


TS,
DID YOU FORGET TIII ?
OR IS THAT THE BIG BAM????
06/09/2010 OR 09/06/2010
 ;)
CHAPPIE
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJalive999 on May 12, 2010, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...
Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?
I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.
Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?
I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.
Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...
Love u more...

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3594/pdvd089.jpg)  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on May 12, 2010, 03:07:54 PM
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...

Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?

I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.

Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?

I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.

Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...



Love u more...

Please consider this: What if TS is Michael?

And it's not only about numbers, that's just part of it. The message has been given to us probably hundreds of times. But I don't think I stand alone when I say that the numbers do add an element of credibility.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 12, 2010, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...

Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?

I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.

Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?

I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.

Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...



Love u more...

Please consider this: What if TS is Michael?

And it's not only about numbers, that's just part of it. The message has been given to us probably hundreds of times. But I don't think I stand alone when I say that the numbers do add an element of credibility.


The numbers are very important. This is part of Michael's message. The numbers are the code leading us to the truth. And as jacilovesmichael said they're a part of the hoax, an important part yes but there are also other things. I think that if TS focuses more on the numbers it's because it's the more difficult to understand for us and you must admit that the encoded message in the simple title THIS IS IT is extra intelligent and that without TS explanation nobody would really have understood. So in front of such smartness it's better to stay humble and patient. It's really worth it.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJsFan4Ever on May 12, 2010, 03:38:28 PM
I am speechless  :shock:  Thank you so very much for all your help, for giving up your time to write all this THANK YOU!  :D  CAN"T WAIT FOR THE NEXT PART!!!!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on May 12, 2010, 03:47:05 PM
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?

Read more:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3932713/Revelation-911-Illuminati-NWO-Occult-Numerology-Creating-History
http://www.threeworldwars.com/occult/

Just my opinion and my 5 cents.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: youngatheart on May 12, 2010, 03:52:14 PM
Thank you so much.  I always look forward to these updates to shed some new light on everything.  Can't wait for the next one.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 12, 2010, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: "looking4truth"
Quote
These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory}.

This reminds me of BACK from MJJ Community when he said "Check your future HIStory books" When I have time, I can link you to the posting. It was way before June 25, 2009. And another great update! I can't wait to read more. This is really incredible. Only MJ would be this precise.

Wow - I can't wait to see that link. Thanks!!!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJalive999 on May 12, 2010, 04:02:52 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology)  ;)
Numerology isn't just about Illuminati.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 12, 2010, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?

Read more:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3932713/Revelation-911-Illuminati-NWO-Occult-Numerology-Creating-History
http://www.threeworldwars.com/occult/

Just my opinion and my 5 cents.

The Illuminati have their own agenda and their specific numerology. There is nothing occult here. Numbers are part of our world you can use them as you want and here it's used as code in a hoax. You give the numbers the meaning you want after all and they have no real power they can at least be used to lead us in a certain direction after decoding.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Elsa on May 12, 2010, 04:15:26 PM
This is from TIAI Update 3

Quote from: TS
-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
3-3. Hoax Chronology is Based on CA Time

Of course the “death” was in CA (California), and was given in CA time (2:26 PM).  The memorial and the burial were also in CA.  And of course the LAPD (Los Angeles Police Department) is in Los Angeles, CA.  So whenever looking at dates and times related to the hoax, we need to be using the CA time zone {or Pacific Time, which is UTC minus 8 hours, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zone}.

Those who read my threads last fall, in the old MJHD forum, know that I always posted the threads on specific dates and times.  And I have also done this with the TIAI posts.  The easiest way to see the TIAI times is to go to your “User Control Panel”, then go to “Board preferences”, go down to “My timezone”, and select “[UTC – 8] Pacific Time” (then push the “Submit” button on the bottom).  Or if you would rather, just subtract 8 hours from the UTC default time in the forum.

TIAI Revealed (Part 1) was posted on 12-21, three years before 12-21-2012; it was also posted ten minutes before midnight (“It’s close to midnight … The midnight hour is close at hand …”).  TIAI Update #1 was posted at 11:11 PM on 1-11 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 7).  TIAI Update #2 was posted on 1-21-2010 (1+2+1+2+1 = 7); it was also ten minutes before midnight, exactly one month after 12-21 (TIAI Revealed, Part 1).

TMZ is physically located in CA {http://www.tmz.com/about/; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMZ.com}; however, the times and dates reported on their website are given in Eastern Time.  This means that in order to convert times in TMZ articles into CA times, you need to subtract 3 hours.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJJSmile on May 12, 2010, 04:21:26 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...

Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?

I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.

Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?

I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.

Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...



Love u more...

Please consider this: What if TS is Michael?

And it's not only about numbers, that's just part of it. The message has been given to us probably hundreds of times. But I don't think I stand alone when I say that the numbers do add an element of credibility.


@jacilovesmichael

Exactly like the "Lynyrd Skynyrd's Story" ...

We thank God for every new thing we learn
Feeding the brain keeps our young soul
Who is bored is just existing and this is not life.
So stop existing and start living
We have to love each other

Thanks TS or Michael or whoever you are
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Elsa on May 12, 2010, 04:59:44 PM
I think there was a hidden meaning in this TMZ article
http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/03/michael-j ... rnational/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/03/michael-jackson-t-shirts-infringement-copyright-trademark-federal-lawsuit-estate-bravado-international/)      

Michael Jackson Peeps Teed Off Over T-Shirts
Posted May 3rd 8:25

It could be

Michael Jackson Peeps Teed Off Over T-S(hirts)

But Update 5 shows it’s more like

Michael Jackson Peeps Teed Off Over T-Shirts  
M         J           P      s T    d O    O     T-S     ts

MJ- Post Dots TS
Or
MJ- PT (pacific time) Dots TS

I think it's something like that.  Now I need to get some sleep.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 12, 2010, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: "TS"
#5a:DO you Think 4 your Self?[/b]
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

DOTS OF TMZ SHOW...

Thank you Chappie!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJalive999 on May 12, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
*DEAD*  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 12, 2010, 05:47:10 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "TS"
#5a:DO you Think 4 your Self?[/b]
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

DOTS OF TMZ SHOW...


Yes, with thanks to Chappie who figured it out...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: GirlSaturday on May 12, 2010, 05:51:22 PM
I need CPR because I have just flatlined after seeing this.  :lol:

Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "TS"
#5a:DO you Think 4 your Self?[/b]
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

DOTS OF TMZ SHOW...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Delphi on May 12, 2010, 06:09:48 PM
.........................  :shock:

Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?

Also, bear in mind that Occult is not necessarily evil. The world "Occult" simply means "hidden". There are many hidden practices in the world and not all of it pertains to the Illuminati.  ;)

Love C:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 12, 2010, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "TS"
#5a:DO you Think 4 your Self?[/b]
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

DOTS OF TMZ SHOW...


Yes, with thanks to Chappie who figured it out...

Just in front of my eyes and I didn't see it ! Good catch !!!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: looking4truth on May 12, 2010, 06:38:53 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "looking4truth"
Quote
These same three letters were emphasized in the “HIStory: Past, Present, and Future” album in 1995 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIStory}.

This reminds me of BACK from MJJ Community when he said "Check your future HIStory books" When I have time, I can link you to the posting. It was way before June 25, 2009. And another great update! I can't wait to read more. This is really incredible. Only MJ would be this precise.

Wow - I can't wait to see that link. Thanks!!!

Here is the link: http://img50.imageshack.us/i/2462007.jpg/ (http://img50.imageshack.us/i/2462007.jpg/) You'll probably have to click the image to see it clearer. Here is a link to most of BACK's posts from 2005-2007: http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-s-f ... -t2433.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-s-friends-f63/back-screenshots-t2433.htm). You can click on the picture to see the photos and you may have to click on the picture again to view it in full. Thanks to Pammy for the screenshots.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jenwren20 on May 12, 2010, 07:03:56 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "TS"
#5a:DO you Think 4 your Self?[/b]
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

DOTS OF TMZ SHOW...


Yes, with thanks to Chappie who figured it out...

Just in front of my eyes and I didn't see it ! Good catch !!!

BRILLIANT! I just about fell off my chair!! :o
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: chappie on May 12, 2010, 07:22:04 PM
Hey TS,
I just did, can i have the key now for the next level?
 ;)
CHAP


THEMJQUEST
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: mjfansince4 on May 12, 2010, 08:06:21 PM
i am speechless. this update is giving me a tingly feeling. thank you TS. THANK YOU MICHAEL.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MO_1219 on May 12, 2010, 08:12:40 PM
Thank you so much TS~ :D
L.O.V.E. from China  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: rayvyn on May 12, 2010, 09:12:56 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?

Read more:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3932713/Revelation-911-Illuminati-NWO-Occult-Numerology-Creating-History
http://www.threeworldwars.com/occult/

Just my opinion and my 5 cents.

And a good five cents it is. Good warning. Thanks VeryLittleSusie!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: loma on May 12, 2010, 09:18:47 PM
TS:
I don't know what to think about you. I'd just like to know who you are. I'm not one for mystery.  :lol:
I really hope you're not just another hoaxer leading us on with all this numerology.
It's something that I just don't get. "This Is It" just seems so simple, ya know?
 8-)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Stranger In Chi-town on May 12, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
Great update, TS!  :D Good lookin' out! xD
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Delphi on May 12, 2010, 09:22:49 PM
Ioma, I don't blame you.
I can be an "Occam's Razor" kinda gal myself, but...There's definitely something to it all, I think. ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Stranger In Chi-town on May 12, 2010, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?

Read more:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3932713/Revelation-911-Illuminati-NWO-Occult-Numerology-Creating-History
http://www.threeworldwars.com/occult/

Just my opinion and my 5 cents.

The Illuminati have their own agenda and their specific numerology. There is nothing occult here. Numbers are part of our world you can use them as you want and here it's used as code in a hoax. You give the numbers the meaning you want after all and they have no real power they can at least be used to lead us in a certain direction after decoding.

Yes, numerology is very cool (I'm a numerology buff) :) and is important in the hoax.
It isn't inherently evil.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on May 12, 2010, 10:14:17 PM
DOTS OF TMZ SHOW:

D=4
O=15
T=20
S=19
_____
  58........5+8=13 and 1*3=3


O=15
F=6
_____
  21........2+1=3


T=20
M=13
Z=26
_____
   49........4+9=13 and 1*3=3


S=19
H=8
O=15
W=23
______
  65.......6*5=30 and 3+0=3



----> 58+21+49+65=193.....1+9+3= 13 (M)...1*3=3

 :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: teardrop on May 12, 2010, 11:56:53 PM
Thank you TS!
Mike is such a genius!
I love you Mike!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: imissMJ147 on May 13, 2010, 01:07:45 AM
TS thank you.! You're great.!!!!<3
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: cin_pyt on May 13, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
:o my brain can"t handle soo much thanks TS. Pure genius :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: fedeDA on May 13, 2010, 01:35:21 AM
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...

Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?

I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.

Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?

I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.

Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...



Love u more...
Right!
It's enough for me TS, I'm so tired!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 13, 2010, 01:58:08 AM
Quote from: "fedeDA"
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Boring....TS, you're going to be extremely boring...

Numbers, numbers, numbers and numbers....Where is the MESSAGE ?

I don't wanna more nubers to prove that Michael is alive and he was planning this for a long time, i know that, without the numbers.

Do you think TS that NUMBERS will change the world?
Do you think NUMBERS will make the world a better place?
Do you think Michael gives to numbers much more rilevance than message?

I repeat, we need a guide, a light, to make this fucking world a better place, we don't need a Pitaghoric Table, or a anagramm vademecum to prove tha Michael is alive, we KNOW THAT, without a doubt.

Think TS....The message is simple: LOVE...
Not numbers...



Love u more...
Right!
It's enough for me TS, I'm so tired!

DaveNax and fedeDA,

Through the extensive explanations TS is doing we're getting the WHOLE picture.  I think it's important to be aware of the whole picture in order to fully know and understand what happened and why certain things are done.  The updates are not just about numbers, the numbers point out to important subjects which are a big piece of the Master Plan.  Each and every update shines a new light on the hoax and reveals new things people had not thought of yet.

Don't you want to know exactly how Mike planned all this..?  I'm blown away time after time, and I really want to know it all!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: DaveNax on May 13, 2010, 02:10:34 AM
Mo, i'm sure that numerology is important for the entire hoax.
Or....It WAS...

Numerology was important as a proof.

But when we are SURE that Michael IS alive, and he was planning this since 80s, numerology, is still important?


Mjalive, trust me...I'm giving to Michael al i can, all my life, all my world...To him and to his message...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 13, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Quote from: "DaveNax"
Mo, i'm sure that numerology is important for the entire hoax.
Or....It WAS...

Numerology was important as a proof.

But when we are SURE that Michael IS alive, and he was planning this since 80s, numerology, is still important?

Yes it is, to get the WHOLE picture.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 13, 2010, 02:22:16 AM
Quote from: "reasonables+luvs+MJ"
DOTS OF TMZ SHOW:

D=4
O=15
T=20
S=19
_____
  58........5+8=13 and 1*3=3


O=15
F=6
_____
  21........2+1=3


T=20
M=13
Z=26
_____
   49........4+9=13 and 1*3=3


S=19
H=8
O=15
W=23
______
  65.......6*5=30 and 3+0=3



----> 58+21+49+65=193.....1+9+3= 13 (M)...1*3=3

 :D  :D  :D

Due to brainstorming with Chappie:

Three (3)
The third dimension - we do things in threes so they will manifest in our physical realm.

It's roots stem from the meaning of multiplicity. Creative power; growth. Three is a moving forward of energy, overcoming duality, expression, manifestation and synthesis. Three is the first number to which the meaning "all" was given. It is The Triad, being the number of the whole as it contains the beginning, a middle and an end.

The power of three is universal and is the tripartide nature of the world as heaven, earth, and waters. It is human as body, soul and spirit. Notice the distinction that soul and spirit are not the same. They are not. Three is birth, life, death. It is the beginning, middle and end. Three is a complete cycle unto itself. It is past, present, future.

The symbol of three is the triangle. Three interwoven circles or triangles can represent the indissoluble unity of the three persons of the trinity. Others symbols using three are: trident, fleur-de-lis, trefoil, trisula, thunderbolt, and trigrams.

The astral or emotional body stays connected to the physically body for three days after death. There is scientific evidence that the brain, even when all other systems are failing takes three days to register complete shutdown.

There are 3 phases to the moon. Lunar animals are often depcited as 3 legged.

Three is the heavenly number, representing soul, as four represents body. Together the two equal seven (3+4=7 ) and form the sacred hebdomad. The 3x4=12 representing the signs of the Zodiac and months of the year.

Pythagorean three means completion.

There are three wishes, genies have three wishes, three leprecons, three prince or princesses, three witches, three weird sisters among others.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 13, 2010, 02:30:00 AM

Number 3 is the most playful of all numbers.

You most likely have some of the following strengths and talents at your disposal if the number 3 appears in your numerology chart:

You are creative, socially active, artistic, very positive and optimistic, playful, happy and fun-loving, inspirational, imaginative, motivating, enthusiastic and uplifting.

You have great verbal skills and a talent for self expression. You are a great communicator, you enjoy life and you don't take things too seriously.


Here are some of the career choices that might suit you particularly well if the number 3 is predominant in your chart:

Entertainer, writer, actor, musician.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: LunaCielo on May 13, 2010, 02:37:23 AM
Absolutely brilliant, and extraordinary TS!
Thank you  very much for processing complex and amazing, my head smokes for the effort but this is great, very great!! :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: 2 Bad on May 13, 2010, 03:28:03 AM
Wow!!!! Thank you TS!!! Thank you Michael!
I needed this today, I can't tell you how much it means to me!!
I feel like dancing!!  
Someone mentioned their "I told you so!!" dance well babe I'm with you!!

Love ya Mike!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: KINGdom52 on May 13, 2010, 03:49:53 AM
I think I'm gonna hit my head on the wall !  :lol:

I thought I was used to these "coincedences" -NO WAY - but everytime you blow up my mind !  :shock:

Thank you so much TS !

And hurry up... The waiting is killing me ... :mrgreen:

PS :  BEYOND GENIUS.......... 8-)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on May 13, 2010, 04:00:24 AM
Wow, that´s interesting, thanks TS!
Pure genious! :)
Looking forward to reading what follows.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: simalves on May 13, 2010, 05:41:31 AM
Do TS updates fit in with Dave Dave's tweet.

Doesn't someone need to learn algebra and psychology to plan this hoax - maybe that is why he was learning for it - to pass this test.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 13, 2010, 06:33:41 AM
Quote from: "simalves"
Do TS updates fit in with Dave Dave's tweet.

Doesn't someone need to learn algebra and psychology to plan this hoax - maybe that is why he was learning for it - to pass this test.

Yeah, and I thought he wanted to become a lawyer?  :?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: paula-c on May 13, 2010, 10:33:41 AM
I believe that TS is Michael, who else can explain this in a masterly and accurate? ... MJ creator 8-)  :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: RK on May 13, 2010, 11:00:31 AM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
I don't know if you guys realise this, but despite these topics were often discussed here - noone seemed to connect these dots - or numbers...

You must bear in mind that numerology - is the occult belief. Occult = Illuminati.

Do you seriously want to fall for it?

Read more:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3932713/Revelation-911-Illuminati-NWO-Occult-Numerology-Creating-History
http://www.threeworldwars.com/occult/

Just my opinion and my 5 cents.
If there is a counterfeit to something, then there must also  be the real deal and with numbers, when studied regarding the scriptures, it is called the study of bible numerics. Nothing wrong with that at all. It's all in how you interprete it. Nothing to fear here. ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ralu on May 13, 2010, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
I believe that TS is Michael, who else can explain this in a masterly and accurate? ... MJ creator 8-)  :D
...No, I can't feel the love. Sory, but TS is much too informative, demonstrative and totally cold, IMHO. Nothing of Michael here...do you really remember Michael? Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind? Come on! I wouldn't be surprise if in the end TIAI demonstration shall "prove" how MJ is the prince of peace and love predicted by so many to actually being the evil itself. A perfect way of keeping MJ comming back. Just take care of your minds. By the way : Good question, TS!!!

Love & Peace.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on May 13, 2010, 05:58:08 PM
Quote from: "ralu"
Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind?

Yes, I am sure it is.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on May 13, 2010, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "ralu"
Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind?

Yes, I am sure it is.

Me too.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Adi on May 13, 2010, 07:38:46 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "ralu"
Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind?

Yes, I am sure it is.

Most definitely. The planning in this is mind boggling and to me only someone like Michael Jackson could devise it. TS is showing us how he did it.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: paula-c on May 13, 2010, 07:45:10 PM
ralu, I respect your opinion but I think to plan absolutely everything we've seen since 25.06.1909 mind must be very cold, and not misunderstand me when I say cold, but I think Michael did all this that there was a great danger and not simply to disappear from public life, I have read TiAI redirects and this is not done from one day to another, I do not get carried away by emotions but we must recognize that the person you behind all this devoted much time and is someone with a very bright mind, time will tell as to state spending, which will be the end of all this, everyone has right would interpret it as best I understand. ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: onemoretime on May 14, 2010, 12:34:27 AM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "ralu"
Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind?

Yes, I am sure it is.

Me too.

Only a genius can write like this. I am very impressed and feel humbled!

Why should it not be possible to calculate and plan things precisely? If a hoax of such a dimension has to be carried out, to outwit them, you have to be "cold-blooded" in some way, you must be smarter than the ones, who want to destroy you, if you want to get your message through. Otherwise they can't be exposed in their evil intentions. It doesn't mean, that you are not convinced, that LOVE is important, and you practice it in your daily life, as much as you want others to do the same.

Michael's name in a biblical sense stands for an angel, an Archangel, who was fighting against evil - and succeeded. The name suits him well. He led an army of angels, he had been chosen.
If this quality of character is transferred to Michael, one can say, he has leader qualities, and a leader has got to be strong and tough, especially in the music industry as a superstar.
His character is soft and gentle, but he has a strong mind.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJalive999 on May 14, 2010, 12:55:15 AM
Quote from: "ralu"
Quote from: "paula-c"
I believe that TS is Michael, who else can explain this in a masterly and accurate? ... MJ creator 8-)  :D
...No, I can't feel the love. Sory, but TS is much too informative, demonstrative and totally cold, IMHO. Nothing of Michael here...do you really remember Michael? Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind? Come on! I wouldn't be surprise if in the end TIAI demonstration shall "prove" how MJ is the prince of peace and love predicted by so many to actually being the evil itself. A perfect way of keeping MJ comming back. Just take care of your minds. By the way : Good question, TS!!!

Love & Peace.

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/631/likl.jpg)

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5065/lik2.jpg)

NEVER underestimate the MAN!  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Delphi on May 14, 2010, 01:28:50 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/631/likl.jpg)

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/5065/lik2.jpg)

NEVER underestimate the MAN!  ;)


Aha~! NICE one, MJalive999  ;) !!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: LunaCielo on May 14, 2010, 02:00:02 AM
[quote = "onemoretime"] [quote = "jacilovesmichael"] [quote = "~ ~ Souza"] [quote = "ralu"] Lei crede davvero che siano queste cose è il prodotto della sua mente? [/ Quote]

[color = # 400040] Sì, sono sicuro lo è. [/ color] [/ quote]

Anche a me. [/ Quote]

Solo un genio può scrivere così. Sono molto impressionato e si sentono umiliati!

Perché non dovrebbe essere possibile calcolare e pianificare le cose con precisione? Se una bufala di una tale dimensione deve essere effettuata, per superare in astuzia loro, devi essere "a sangue freddo", in qualche modo, è necessario essere più intelligenti di quelli, che vogliono distruggere voi, se si vuole ottenere il vostro messaggio attraverso. In caso contrario, esse non possono essere esposti nel loro cattive intenzioni. Ciò non significa, che non siete convinti, che l'amore è importante, e lo si pratica nella vostra vita quotidiana, tanto quanto vuoi che gli altri facciano lo stesso.

nome di Michael in un certo senso biblico è l'acronimo di un angelo, un arcangelo, che combatteva contro il male - ed ebbe successo. Il nome lo si adatta bene. Ha guidato un esercito di angeli, era stato scelto.
Se questa qualità di personaggio è trasferito a Michael, si può dire, lui ha qualità leader, un leader e ha avuto modo di essere forte e duro, in particolare nel settore della musica come una superstar.
Il suo carattere è dolce e gentile, ma ha una mente forte. [/ Quote]


I agree, onemoretime, very well :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: 2 Bad on May 14, 2010, 03:14:09 AM
I agree with Paula, this has all been done because of some serious danger.
 No coldness here at all from TS. TS does not speak like Michael but the messages clear up questions. We have so many questions! I honestly feel the answers will all come with time. It's been a long time coming here and we have learned so many things about our wonderful Michael. And we've learned so much about others and so much more about the "core of our being". I will be patient and simmer and not judge. The time to shine will come.
Can you feel it?  Say Yeah yeah yeah I feel it!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: missy_missy on May 14, 2010, 04:17:44 AM
wow thanks..really needed that!! :)
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on May 17, 2010, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: "ralu"
Sory, but TS is much too informative, demonstrative and totally cold, IMHO. Nothing of Michael here...do you really remember Michael? Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind? Come on!

of course it is! dont underestimate him! Do YOU really think ALL of these connections are just coincidences? Come on!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ZIsis on May 17, 2010, 09:36:33 PM
Quote from: "ralu"
...No, I can't feel the love. Sory, but TS is much too informative, demonstrative and totally cold, IMHO. Nothing of Michael here...do you really remember Michael? Do you really believe that al this stuff is the product of his mind? Come on! I wouldn't be surprise if in the end TIAI demonstration shall "prove" how MJ is the prince of peace and love predicted by so many to actually being the evil itself. A perfect way of keeping MJ comming back. Just take care of your minds. By the way : Good question, TS!!!

Love & Peace.

I, for one, am VERY GLAD & grateful that you chose to share this thought with us, Ralu. All this time, I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I've NEVER felt that 'our' TS here is MJ! Despite recognising (& appreciating too, simply because it would be a very disturbing thought otherwise that so many of us have chosen to follow him so vigilantly for MONTHS now!) that TS is obviously intelligent & articulate enough (not to mention obviously well-versed in psychology too! ;)), there was just something a tad ??? "too neat", if you will, about him. Now, before you unsheathe those 'maternal claws' at us, please give our opinions some thought too (also, do follow the frequent advice you give others & re-read his posts WITH AN UNBIASED, OPEN MIND again too!). Please don't misunderstand me-I'm not interested in questioning TS's loyalty to MJ or whether or not he is promoting MJ's best interests (debating that would be tantamount to a death wish, as has been proven on numerous occasions! :lol:). I don't hate/resent him (on the contrary, I'm happy that he has been instrumental in adding so much 'meaning' to this hoax for many of us), but I wish he would change a few things about how he chooses to 'help' us. I'm just saying that whatever TS's reasons for doing all this may be (which is still not exactly clear cut!), I just don't understand the sort of ??? almost "neutral" stance that he is taking in all this-as if he's a spectator throwing us tantalising tidbits. It makes me uncomfortable. Yes, I do realise he has been providing us all sorts of hints & clues, but he hasn't made himself exactly one of us, has he? I mean, it's as if he's playing teacher & we are his silly, errant pupils! We go "all out" laying bare our thoughts, feelings & hopes out in the open for all to see. But from him, we get aloof detachment & just "information". Is it really too much to ask/expect that TS levels (in all senses of the word!) with us about everything??? I think it's unfair that some of us refuse to treat ALL OF US as EQUALS in here.

I thought I would also include just two "interesting" quotes from our 'elusive' TS's first post [http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924&p=27558#p27558], on 22 December 2009, below (highlights are mine, as usual):

Quote from: "TS"
Prior to the start of TIAI, however, I did post about half a dozen threads on MJHD; no doubt those who read my threads will remember them. In my first few posts, the information presented had amazed some of the most advanced hoax investigators—and even had some questioning whether I was MJ, or at least someone very close to MJ. At the time, I was going by the screen name S.T.U.D.Y. Once “This Is It” started showing in the theatres: it appeared as though I was “gone”; but in reality I was still watching, “directing” TIAI from behind the scenes, until the right time for me to “reappear” (does this sound familiar?).
Quote from: "TS"
There are many other things which should make it very clear that I am not faking it; but I won’t continue with them here—you will have to read all 9 parts to get the rest of them. And although I am not MJ, I do have information about MJ and the hoax that has not yet been fully understood[/b]. Again, anyone who reads all 9 parts will have no doubt that I do have some very important information. I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you. But I will reveal this when the time is right. Anyway, how I got the information is not nearly as important as whether or not the information is true. So I am not asking anyone to believe what I say based upon my claim of where it came from; rather, I am asking you to let the evidence speak for itself.

The MJ I remember was a gentle & sweet soul: for the MOST part, he has ALWAYS been shy, reserved & introverted (one exception, of course, is him in his element-on stage, singing, dancing or making music! :P). So, understandably, these new roles WE HAVE ASSIGNED to him (Demi-God, Archangel, Messiah, Saviour, Super-man etc etc) IN HIS ABSENCE just seem highly out of character for him. I just don't understand how easily we are 'conveniently' undermining/overlooking the insecurities (for example, his looks & fear of age-ing etc) that has plagued him nearly all his life. Most of the time, he strived to be as inconspicuous as possible. So, it does appear far-fetched (but admittedly, not impossible) that he sees himself in any of these "roles". Yes, Michael Jackson was/is an extraordinary person & an exceptionally talented artist: a real "one of a kind" sort in SO MANY DIFFERENT ways. But in our fervent ardour & 'dedication', please let us not forget that he was also a human being, with normal human needs & wants (& all humans are fallible: we all make our mistakes). I know it's because of our esteem of him that many amongst us try to form an explanation for nearly everything he was/is & did/does. But is it really fair to appoint ourselves his "spokespersons"??? To be honest, for me, a great part of MJ's appeal is his aura of mystery. Must we ALWAYS second guess, assume & dissect EVERY aspect of his life ON ALL OCCASIONS? I'm NOT the least ashamed, embarrassed or afraid about appreciating him, warts & all (as hard as they may be to see! :D), for ALL THAT he represented, for ALL THAT he stood for, for ALL THAT is "APPARENT", for ALL THAT which just simply defies a commentary, DESPITE the knowledge that I may not necessarily comprehend any/all of them too (the reason(s) for a hoax death being the perfect example of one of them). I'm also not hesitant to acknowledge that the whole world does not revolve him (it simply CANNOT, no matter how much we wish it to!). It's more than enough for me that I'm PROUD of MJ: THE artist, persona & MAN!!! Please don't try to demean that for those like me. PLEASE let's not carry "ALL THIS" to the level of 'deification', hmmm.

And another thing...Not all of us are so ready to accept that nearly ANYTHING, EVERYTHING & EVERYONE is either a conspiracy, fake, "plastic"/unreal or just simply "out to get us". Plus, I also admit the idea of numbers being the "keys" to SO MUCH of this just doesn't sit with us math-haters (guilty :oops:) :lol: I think it goes against the whole idea of LOVE conquering & curing ALL when we are constantly actively seeking for the BAD in the world. We could try focusing on the GOOD around us (& there is as much of it as the not-so-good bits too!) & try to expand/build/work on & around them for a change. For, what is life (& the LOVE we keep claiming to understand so well & write elaborately about) worth without a little trust (& respect) for each other!!! PLEASE let us not be "selectively" hypocritical.

I hope that none of you imagine that neither of us, Ralu & I, are just voicing our thoughts to deliberately offend anyone, to shatter your hopes or to generally bring you down in ANY way whatsoever. I apologise if I hurt any of your feelings inadvertently. I truly hope we can all hold onto the camaraderie while we await the answers together.
 
So, thank you Ralu, for your very succinct summary here that has made it click for me too. Your opinion is much appreciated :) I agree that TS just cannot be MJ, NO WAY!!!  


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: JukeBox on May 18, 2010, 05:43:40 AM
just a quick post (haven't read every reply yet),

"DO you Think 4 your Self?" --> people have pointed out DOTS

how about 4? sorry if it's mentioned.

Thanks TS!! <3
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: MJalive999 on May 18, 2010, 10:43:47 AM
yaaah..TS is a cold man!

You know right TS = DS :DDD
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 18, 2010, 02:03:50 PM
Hi ZIsis nice to see you here again !

I've read your post entirely and I'm with you on keeping Michael on earth as a human being like you and me. I feel uncomfortable when people (not specifically in this forum) tend to put him on a pedestal where a human being has not his place. It's giving Michael a position he would not agree with himself I presume, he is so humble. We can deeply love someone without putting him on such a pedestal and keeping our own personalities.

We don't know who TS is, right, but I don't feel like I'm an ignorant in front of him but in the contrary I feel like he's sharing knowledge with us. If we stick to the message he sure has more information on the hoax than we have. Now I'm realizing that I'm talking about "HE" ! Means that my inner self thinks it's a man !  

TS is like TMZ he/she ? is a character of the hoax, he/she has a role to play. Now let's imagine that it's Michael (even if TS claimed not to be him) he would do everything not to let us know and the best way would be to be the less "sensitive" possible. The contrary of Michael, what a good cover up.  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: *Mo* on May 18, 2010, 03:03:45 PM

Does it, at this point, really matter who T.S. is?  Isn't the incredible amount of information and the pointing out to all the "coincidences" by T.S. enough for now?   Would a name give more value to all T.S. has provided us with?  To me, it would not.

As a matter of fact, I think that if T.S. at this point would reveal who he is, people would even question if T.S. was telling the truth.  I think that you need to keep in mind also that such a name might not even ring a bell, as T.S. can very well be someone we have never heard of before.  Remember what Mike said when Geraldo asked him for the names of his friends:  "The faithful, you wouldn’t know them".
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ralu on May 18, 2010, 05:03:11 PM
@ZIsis, I must thank you from the bottom of my heart for expressing there exactely what I meant not only in this thread, but in every comment that I've posted so far on this forum.

@Sarahli & Mo if everyone would keep in mind that only the information posted by TIAI is important and not who TS really is, it would be GRATE. My concern, howsoever, is that most of them are leaded exactely by the hope or even the believe that TS = MJ one way or another. I totally agree about the fact that most of TS's posts & redirects used to be really interesting and true; I even mentioned this several times and I thanked him for the inspiration that he offered me on several occasions. I choose to keep the good ideas and lessons, even though I never excluded the posibility of TS not being a real "good guy". I can see that he did a huge work with all this TIAI and, frankly, the ideea of this work being done for a bad reason scares me deeply. I'm afraid that after he gain everibody's trust and full admiration, he migth  have inserted some conveniant interpretations about certain issues... and most people just took these interpretations at their face value, without asking themselves if - under different circumstances - they would have believed them, or just "questioned" their credibility. Maybe I am wrong, but if I'm not, I hope that at least a few persons around here will give a seccond thought to this subject.

On the other hand, thinking about TS, I always remember him constantely highligting this:
1. The information he gave us was always availabe;
2. ARG, Performance art.

I think that in a certain way s/he is just telling us what we want to hear, according to ARG rules, but he keeps throwing out there some real things too, in the spirit of the same concept of ARG. And maybe, just maybe, in the end we shall have a proper interpretation of his demonstration...which I hope it will be slightly different than what we were been able to hear so far. This is my most optimistic hypotese about who or what TS is.

As for "The man you never knew", I'm sorry but it's still an interpretation, and mine is different. In the best case this means discovering some new qualities, not loosing the most valuable gift of all and replacing it with some sort of robotic inteligence. A bright mind without feelings, without those "belonging" signals, for me is just "danger". The most evil people in the world were very intelligent and they often gain the trust of masses, just for using them later. I cerenately hope that this is not the case with TS, but I can't bet on it.

And, in the end I need to ask you one more time: after all the world will learn good the NWO lesson, then what? Never mind that all the world already knows about this, but they are just feeling helpless (and obviously the "NWO" knows that we know). What shall "all the world" do then? a war? a demonstration? Shouldn't we focuse on the positive side, just like ZIsis said? What "loving" thing did the army of love do so far TOGETHER? spreading hate and fear? Once again, I personally DO NOT believe that MJ's main message is about NWO. I DO believe that we, folks, are loosing it, and the love, the compassion, the harmony are about to be lost and replaced with something not so good. I hope I'm wrong.

Hugs, Peace & Love
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ZIsis on May 18, 2010, 05:09:53 PM
Sarahli, thank you for understanding what I've tried to explain there. You are one of the people that I missed most in this forum while I was away. Your words always reflect honesty, your never act like a "hoax pundit" & your posts always end on an upbeat note :) Thanks for making me smile again, S.

But, for those of you who have misunderstood me, NEWSFLASH: I did not ask/call for a debate/speculation about TS's identity. I just merely pointed out that some of us don't feel that he could possibly be MJ. Also, that his 'attitude' makes us ill at ease. That's it.

Peace out!


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 18, 2010, 05:31:05 PM
Hi ralu,

In my mind Michael is going to come back else I wouldn't believe for one second in the hoax and TS highlighted this important part of this ARG. So if TS was here to misguide us or play with us I don't think that he would emphasize this point and raise hope again when we see that many beLIEvers tend to loose faith in the return each time a bad news pops up. MJ's return would not be in TS's interest if he/she wanted to play a silly game.
I really don't feel like I'm in a sect where TS would be the Guru  :lol:  if I would have found something wrong or bad in what TS says, or in his/her behaviour I would question myself, I'm not the kind of blindly following without questioning and comparing. For the moment TS brought some light to the hoax and for the majority it's up to us to make what is needed with the information he provides us. It's up to us to get the big picture. Finally we are our own guides in this. (well I often ask God to guide me but you get the point I hope).

I personnally don't find TS "cold" or something, I don't know why this idea has been thrown here. Maybe because of the numbers but they are not the message, the numbers are only a means. I understand if people feel unconfortable with his/her style but we are behind computers sometimes it can disturb the waves  8-)

If you don't believe that Michael's message is about the NWO you have the right to. But consider this: evildoers (part of the NWO) want to destroy love, compassion and harmony, they are doing it right now. That's why you feel this lack of love all around and I personally think that if we want to spread love and compassion for each other we must also stop those who prevent us from doing it.

God bless you ralu.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 18, 2010, 05:35:56 PM
Quote from: "ZIsis"
Sarahli, thank you for understanding what I've tried to explain there. You are one of the people that I missed most in this forum while I was away. Your words always reflect honesty, your never act like a "hoax pundit" & your posts always end on an upbeat note :) Thanks for making me smile again, S.

But, for those of you who have misunderstood me, NEWSFLASH: I did not ask/call for a debate/speculation about TS's identity. I just merely pointed out that some of us don't feel that he could possibly be MJ. Also, that his 'attitude' makes us ill at ease. That's it.

Peace out!


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!

Oh thank you ZIsis this one goes right in my heart. I missed your style too. God bless you.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: PinkTopaz on May 18, 2010, 11:30:30 PM
Quote from: "ZIsis"
Sarahli, thank you for understanding what I've tried to explain there. You are one of the people that I missed most in this forum while I was away. Your words always reflect honesty, your never act like a "hoax pundit" & your posts always end on an upbeat note :) Thanks for making me smile again, S.

But, for those of you who have misunderstood me, NEWSFLASH: I did not ask/call for a debate/speculation about TS's identity. I just merely pointed out that some of us don't feel that he could possibly be MJ. Also, that his 'attitude' makes us ill at ease. That's it.

Peace out!


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
Nobody here really thinks that it's Michael- it seems like Marlon, because he had that Study Peace motto..and certainly nobody here worships Michael as a Demi-God.. my gosh.. What is the bold supposed to mean, as well?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Adi on May 19, 2010, 01:37:51 AM
I have never thought TS was Michael and in fact TS stated as such way back in TIAI Revealed on Dec 22, 2009;
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924)

Quote
There are many other things which should make it very clear that I am not faking it; but I won’t continue with them here—you will have to read all 9 parts to get the rest of them. And although I am not MJ, I do have information about MJ and the hoax that has not yet been fully understood.

What I do however think is that TS is deeply involved in helping Michael by carrying out the role of the "messenger" of the intense planning, organisation and thinking in this hoax. I feel TS is showing or guiding us bit by bit to what Michael wanted us to see and know about the planning AND not least THE MESSAGE about what is going on in the world.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ZIsis on May 19, 2010, 05:55:17 AM
Quote from: "Adi"
What I do however think is that TS is deeply involved in helping Michael by carrying out the role of the "messenger" of the intense planning, organisation and thinking in this hoax. I feel TS is showing or guiding us bit by bit to what Michael wanted us to see and know about the planning AND not least THE MESSAGE about what is going on in the world.

Thanks for sharing that thought, Adi. Plus, I also appreciate the way you have done it & wish more people would choose to follow your example too :) It's just that I would like to know for sure if this TS/TIAI.com is doing this at MJ's behest &/or with his knowledge-not something that TS has concocted on his own entirely [that's not exactly impossible, is it-even with the math! :D]. We've been in this long enough to have seen people's hopes being built up by many 'false prophets', only to have them all shattered later. It's not fair that it's usually people who so readily give the gift of trust that receives the most slack ultimately! I don't wish to see anyone [especially my friends] hurt yet again :x What's wrong with good old fashioned straight-forwardness anyway?!?

Frankly, as time goes by, the excitement keeps ebbing away [& I'm half afraid that I might be left as a rusty/grumpy/gloomy pessimist by the end of it all-SHUDDER!]. I'm also so tired of having to be overly-cautious choosing my words [lest I make someone else 'uncomfortable'] & repeatedly re-explain myself to those who are ready to tear it all up in a trice, for merely their own 'amusement' [the worst is having to rein in my own indignation & to FORCE myself not to reciprocate in kind!]. Is it really necessary that we must continue to attack each other so often just because we grow impatient & insecure playing the 'waiting game'?!? We are a team, remember, even with our differences of opinion!!! Why is it so hard to give each other the respect we deserve [& to try & be a little more considerate & courteous in our conduct when it involves others!]?!? I think I'm past the 'intense' stage where just thinking about the hoax makes me break out in goose-flesh & give me a heady rush to the head [or at least, past the stage when that was enough! ;) :roll: :oops: :lol:  :P]. Now I just wish we had a little less drama with ALL of this.

Here's hoping that we shall be able to see "this" [whatever that may entail!] through TOGETHER.


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Adi on May 19, 2010, 07:38:41 AM
Hey there ZIsis!  nice to "see" you around on the forum!

I get what you are saying and really appreciate it too. I understand fully your concern for all of us...it is really, really appreciated...truely! I know this has been a very long road and many people have had their hopes built up only to be devastated when what they had hoped or what they were led to believe didn't occur...and that aspect of caring for every believer is where I see you are coming from.

I don't think any of us for sure knows if TIAI/TS is definitely doing this at Michaels behest &/or with his knowledge....we all need to use our judgement and not be gullible I suppose and keep all options open. Which is what I am trying to do....plus I know it sounds weird to some people, but I am going with my intuitions on this one....and for me well I have a good feeling about TIAI/TS and their role.

Take Care
 :D
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: PYThing7 on May 19, 2010, 09:53:16 AM
really .. it's in fact no when..matter when??? oke here is the answer.. ''When there will be love, i'll be there'' BUT IT'S NOTHING ABOUT LOVE YET..NOTHING, REALLY MATTER WHY..no who get the clues first, not a big investigation..the real clues are near us, so simply..to let everybody feel , sure everybody who feel the love..please understand now ,Mike is LOVE.. AND WE HAVE NOT LOVE, WILL BE OUR FAULT AGAIN..
GOD BLESS YOU, ALL THE LOVE from me
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ralu on May 19, 2010, 01:10:42 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
MJ's return would not be in TS's interest if he/she wanted to play a silly game. WHAT IF THE GAMES PLAIED BY TS ARE KEEPING MJ FOR COMMING BACK?  :idea:
...

If you don't believe that Michael's message is about the NWO you have the right to. But consider this: evildoers (part of the NWO) want to destroy love, compassion and harmony, they are doing it right now. That's why you feel this lack of love all around and I personally think that if we want to spread love and compassion for each other we must also stop those who prevent us from doing it.

God bless you ralu.

Dear Sarahli, thank you for your kind reply  :)
But, I'm afraid you misunderstand me: I personally feel the love, compassion and harmony (I think you could understand this if you read some of my previous posts). What is making me sad is the fact that more and more people act like they don't...and my feeling is that what TS is doing, rather nourishes this lack of love for some people and instead it gives them hate and fear (nomatter against whom). But - again - maybe I'm wrong. Though, I had to spit it out, sorry if I hured someone's feelings (including TS).

I met alot of wonerful, inspiering people since this hoax, and, as I said to a dear friend earlier, the world has no bounderies for me any more.

Big hugs to you too
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: michaelsupporter on May 19, 2010, 01:17:31 PM
It has been a number of days since our last TIAI redirect. Oh, where are you TS!!?!?!?!?!?!? I am anxiously awaiting another important message.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Sarahli on May 19, 2010, 02:28:18 PM
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Dear Sarahli, thank you for your kind reply :)
But, I'm afraid you misunderstand me: I personally feel the love, compassion and harmony (I think you could understand this if you read some of my previous posts). What is making me sad is the fact that more and more people act like they don't...and my feeling is that what TS is doing, rather nourishes this lack of love for some people and instead it gives them hate and fear (nomatter against whom). But - again - maybe I'm wrong. Though, I had to spit it out, sorry if I hured someone's feelings (including TS).

I met alot of wonerful, inspiering people since this hoax, and, as I said to a dear friend earlier, the world has no bounderies for me any more.

Big hugs to you too

No problem ralu, I understand your feelings. Keep the faith, God bless you.

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by michaelsupporter
It has been a number of days since our last TIAI redirect. Oh, where are you TS!!?!?!?!?!?!? I am anxiously awaiting another important message.

Yes we're all waiting for next update but it seems that TS is updating the update...or maybe we have not studied enough...
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: sweety27a on May 21, 2010, 08:34:52 AM
Hi everyone, just had a question to TS , it s the first time i use this website but i do read it often! some of u may remember me i had the same username on twitter couple months ago!! Is David Geffen involved in this? Did he help MJ in the hospital?
Thanks for posting about the WHY and the message not many hoaxers talk about it...after almost 11 months i m a bit tired of people always looking dor clues :) sorry everyone s free to do what they want BUT MJ did this to open our eyes to the corruption...Some of us already knew, but others did not so big thank you to him!
Lots of Love to u all xxx
ps Our turn to make him proud and not let this be in vain
We have already lost many great men who tried to warn us before and MJ can t fail wa have to help for our future!!! Peace
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: thepeacock2012 on May 22, 2010, 09:05:56 AM
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Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on May 22, 2010, 11:25:05 AM
To be honest, I have a hard time understanding the gist of TIAI`s posts. Besides the casual numerology the long and elaborate statements are well written, yes, but I can`t detect any MJ`s incvolvement at all. It´s ideological and - non-catholic - christian points of view are obvious.

Did I miss a relevant point? Do you see any evidence for something? What`s the message / purpose? What do you see in there?
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ConfusedLOVE on May 22, 2010, 01:16:50 PM
I am new at all of this, so if this is in the wrong place I am sorry.  I have been doing alot of thinking about the "bamsday" I have a thought that I would like to share.  I recently read on TMZ (I think)  that one of Michaels brothers wanted to lets fans inside Foreset Lawn to pay their respects to him on 6-25-2010.  Well what better way than be make a BAM.  Why would anyone who believes that MJ is alive go there that day?  Also 6+2+5+2+1=16   1+6=7.  Wouldn't be a real awakening to go pay respects and Michael actually be there ALIIVE to accept them?   :?: Like I said I am new to ALL of this so it is probably just crazy thinking.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on May 22, 2010, 03:53:50 PM
Has TS mentioned ANYTHING about Michael's new out-of-SONY-album probably being released in Autumn???

I tried to read his update abcd but I don't remember.... Does anyone of you remember?  :|  :|
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: cawobeth on May 25, 2010, 01:14:28 PM
geez, haven't had time to read all of this.
In response to your question; yes, I think for myself.

I originally came to MJDH because I was so appreciative to discover so much much info. gathered at one site. Though I was pretty good at following my nose, so to speak,
as I sought evidence, there were times when I felt like a Mexican jumping bean. I was coming across the same info.in different places, partial info., sketchy & evasive info. & lots of blah, bla, blah. So, this site offers the asset of saving curious people time.
There is a lot of proof here & some valuable info. of validity. However, over time there is more & more speculation shared about MJ,, all over the place. Much of this I find to be unnecessary & presumptuous. And even more ugly, an echo of perverse sensationalism by medialoids.
I don't think that it's for anyone to speak for Michael & say what his intentions & course of action may be beyond what he has so obviously expressed in Invincible, History Book (and more of his compositions), TII and his interviews & speeches of his own words. One need not let their imagination stray to0 far. He is straight forward & always very consistent in sharing his values. I have studied symbolism for years & quite frankly some of the theories here are totally off the wall (and am not referring to his off the wall).
This is OK since people perceive things differently or just follow what others say (though I do believe Michael has encouraged ppl to think for themselves). This is OK except for theories that tease at dangerous territory.

Because I spend much time working in support of Michael's innocence, I have little time to weed through so much stuff. I haven't needed more proof for months now, anyway.

I want to say, as I've said on more than one occasion; thank you.
I take what I need & leave the rest as I have offered (what I think is) valuable input.
Of course, everyone thinks that their input is valuable. This is ego in play as humans.
I just care; really care, that whatever it is people share, it be with the utmost respect
& empathy for Michael. I hardly think what Michael embarked upon has been easy.
Just imagine being him.

Check point- am I sharing with unconditional love on common ground that we can agree to disagree ?  I beLIEve that it's especially important, at this time, that fans, supporters, admirers & those who idolize MJ unify & avoid confrontations. There's enough confrontation in the world and Michael offers love, as the truth & a way to simmer the discord of these times.
Not everyone likes everyone. This is secondary. What is foremost important is that we are
willing to listen to one another. We exist in a world with continual breakdowns in communication. Why ? People tend to forget "do unto others". If I care to be a part of the whole [Oneness] and be listened to along my way, isn't it only fair that I also listen to others?

God's speed to Michael...always with empathy & respect for Prince, Paris & Blanket too.[attachment=0:25ew0nzf]smaller of aahhh-JuliasAngel- photobucket- 19y0rr.jpg[/attachment:25ew0nzf]
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ralu on May 25, 2010, 03:34:18 PM
Quote from: "cawobeth"
geez, haven't had time to read all of this.
In response to your question; yes, I think for myself.

I originally came to MJDH because I was so appreciative to discover so much much info. gathered at one site. Though I was pretty good at following my nose, so to speak,
as I sought evidence, there were times when I felt like a Mexican jumping bean. I was coming across the same info.in different places, partial info., sketchy & evasive info. & lots of blah, bla, blah. So, this site offers the asset of saving curious people time.
There is a lot of proof here & some valuable info. of validity. However, over time there is more & more speculation shared about MJ,, all over the place. Much of this I find to be unnecessary & presumptuous. And even more ugly, an echo of perverse sensationalism by medialoids.
I don't think that it's for anyone to speak for Michael & say what his intentions & course of action may be beyond what he has so obviously expressed in Invincible, History Book (and more of his compositions), TII and his interviews & speeches of his own words. One need not let their imagination stray to0 far. He is straight forward & always very consistent in sharing his values. I have studied symbolism for years & quite frankly some of the theories here are totally off the wall (and am not referring to his off the wall).
This is OK since people perceive things differently or just follow what others say (though I do believe Michael has encouraged ppl to think for themselves). This is OK except for theories that tease at dangerous territory.

Because I spend much time working in support of Michael's innocence, I have little time to weed through so much stuff. I haven't needed more proof for months now, anyway.

I want to say, as I've said on more than one occasion; thank you.
I take what I need & leave the rest as I have offered (what I think is) valuable input.
Of course, everyone thinks that their input is valuable. This is ego in play as humans.
I just care; really care, that whatever it is people share, it be with the utmost respect
& empathy for Michael. I hardly think what Michael embarked upon has been easy.
Just imagine being him.

Check point- am I sharing with unconditional love on common ground that we can agree to disagree ?  I beLIEve that it's especially important, at this time, that fans, supporters, admirers & those who idolize MJ unify & avoid confrontations. There's enough confrontation in the world and Michael offers love, as the truth & a way to simmer the discord of these times.
Not everyone likes everyone. This is secondary. What is foremost important is that we are
willing to listen to one another. We exist in a world with continual breakdowns in communication. Why ? People tend to forget "do unto others". If I care to be a part of the whole [Oneness] and be listened to along my way, isn't it only fair that I also listen to others?

God's speed to Michael...always with empathy & respect for Prince, Paris & Blanket too.[attachment=0:1pbvutn0]smaller of aahhh-JuliasAngel- photobucket- 19y0rr.jpg[/attachment:1pbvutn0]

Lovely and very well put, cawobeth, thank you!
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on June 14, 2010, 05:23:52 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "TS"
#5a:DO you Think 4 your Self?[/b]
5-1. Outline for TIAI Update #5
5-2. TIAI Redirections Since Update #4
5-3. Seven Layers Embedded in: “THIS IS IT”

#5b:
5-4. Overwhelming Evidence: Not If, But When
5-5. For Now, “Piece by Piece” Return

#5c:
5-6. The greatest Show on earth!
5-7. Michael Jackson Killed Himself?
5-8. Zone for MJ Info

#5d:
5-09. Statistics and Opportunities of a Coincidence
5-10. Hoax, Accident, Murder, or Suicide?
5-11. Operation “Think 4 your Self”
5-12. Will You Be There?

DOTS OF TMZ SHOW...


Yes, with thanks to Chappie who figured it out...

Just in front of my eyes and I didn't see it ! Good catch !!!

From my twitter 8 days ago:

(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6668/111421434.jpg)

PJAMA JAMA AAI - Urusei Yatsura; Japanese Manga Series
Did MJ like Anime ?
Michael Jackson (1958-2009) & the Zillion  Anime Connections
posted on 2009-06-26 17:26 EDT

Flashback: Michael Jackson (1958-2009) was the first major American artist to use anime in a music video on MTV. His 1995 "Scream" collaboration with his sister Janet Jackson included some brief background sequences from Tatsunoko Production's Akai Kodan Zillion anime series.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-26/michael-jackson-1958-2009-and-the-zillion-anime-connections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urusei_Yatsura

What is Manga?
Manga consist of comics and print cartoons, in the Japanese language and conforming to the style developed in Japan in the late 19th century.  In their modern form, manga date from shortly after World War Ii but they have a long, complex pre-history in earlier Japanese art.

In Japan people of all ages read manga. The genre includes a broad range of subjects: action-adventure, romance, sports and games, historical drama, comedy, science fiction and fantasy, mystery, horror, sexuality, and business/commerce, among others. Since the 1950s, manga have steadily become a major part of the Japanese publishing industry, representing a 406 billion yen market in Japan in 2007 (approximately $3.6 billion). Manga have also become increasingly popular worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manga

[youtube:1ax1b3oy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIaSqbwVFOc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1ax1b3oy]

Translated Lyrics

Even in my dreams, I want to chase you,
and I put your photo under my bed.
Floating through the sky, just at the good part,
the instant I kissed you, I woke up from my dream.

Promise me you'll squeeze me tight
because I'll wait for you forever, quietly.
I'm getting impatient.

Pa...Pa...Pajamas Get in the Way!
I can't get to sleep. I'm lonely, Darling.
Pa...Pa...Pajamas Get in the Way!
Feel my naked emotions, Darling.
A hot sigh... I feel like I'm burning up
on this blue planet's night.

The rumors that you have a girlfriend
don't bother me in the least.
Wings of flirtatious love, hurry
and bring him here to me.

I want to be near you more and more, always.
I want always to watch you, quietly.
But right now...

Pa...Pa...Pajamas get in the way!
There's nothing going on between us.
Pa...Pa...Pajamas Get in the Way!
Wake up to my naked emotions, Darling.
It seems like I'm having a slightly sexy dream
and can't get to sleep this night.

Pa...Pa...Pajamas Get in the Way!
Though I hug my pillow, I'm lonely, Darling.
Pa...Pa...Pajamas Get in the Way!
Feel my naked emotions, Darling.
The whoosh of a shooting star...
I feel like I'm burning up
on this blue planet's night.
http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/urusei/uypajama.htm

The two animes used in scream are Akira and Babel II
The government fears that Tetsuo will become a threat as did Akira, a young boy who, much like Tetsuo, had intense powers. Akira was thought to be too much a threat and was quickly killed.

Babel II is a 1971 manga series by Mitsuteru Yokoyama. Yokoyama also wrote a sequel manga located in a parallel universe, His name is 101. The series follows Koichi, a Japanese schoolboy who learns he is the reincarnation of the alien entity "Babel". As such, Koichi is entrusted with Babel's powers and joined by three protectors: Rodem, a shape-shifting black panther; a Pteradactyl-like flying creature; and Poseidon, a giant robot that always rises from the depth of the ocean when summoned. The boy hero commands his new found powers and companions to defend the Earth.
http://www.absoluteanime.com/akira/index.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_II

Black panther shape shifting in Moonwalker. Giant robot - Light man
Janet sang "Scream" with Michael at the VMAs
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: gwynned on June 14, 2010, 11:05:34 AM
Serenitys_Dream that's a great find!  

On another subject, people are suggesting that numerology was used as a clue to the hoax.  I think it's more than that.  I understand that the dark side uses numerology to help accomplish what they are doing.  For example, 9-11-2001 apparently had some occult meaning.  As they say, 'timing is everything.'  In TII, MJ says about the Great Adventure, we're going to show them talent like they've never seen before.  However, if you listen to it, he slurs the word 'talent' so that it sounds like 'time.'  Perhaps I'm overreaching, but when I first heard it I was sure he said 'time' and wondered at the meaning of the comment.  

Bottom line, I think the timing and the numerology involved are well calculated not just to expose the hoax but to help create the change.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 31, 2011, 12:30:39 AM
Quote from: "TS"
Layer seven: Other than the letter “H”, there are seven letters that read the same forwards and backwards: T I S I S I T.  Three of these letters are vowels (layers five and six); and the other four letters are two very interesting consonants, mirrored forwards and backwards.

Rereading TS' post and layer 7 actually has both 999 and 12/21 in it. III makes 999 (I being the 9th letter of the alphabet) and TS ST makes 21/12. T is the 20th letter of the alphabet (2+0=2) and S the 19th (1+9=10, 1+0=1).

That makes the username TS multi-layered as wel. TS means 21, but can also mean Triple Seven (which is also 21).

Another thing I thought of was the release date of TII. 10/28/'10 makes 111 (1+0=1 / 2+8=10=1 / 10=1; 111).

Sorry for bumping an old post, but I am playing with numbers lately.
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: bleu eyes on January 31, 2011, 03:25:00 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "TS"
Layer seven: Other than the letter “H”, there are seven letters that read the same forwards and backwards: T I S I S I T.  Three of these letters are vowels (layers five and six); and the other four letters are two very interesting consonants, mirrored forwards and backwards.

Rereading TS' post and layer 7 actually has both 999 and 12/21 in it. III makes 999 (I being the 9th letter of the alphabet) and TS ST makes 21/12. T is the 20th letter of the alphabet (2+0=2) and S the 19th (1+9=10, 1+0=1).

That makes the username TS multi-layered as wel. TS means 21, but can also mean Triple Seven (which is also 21).

Another thing I thought of was the release date of TII. 10/28/'10 makes 111 (1+0=1 / 2+8=10=1 / 10=1; 111).


Sorry for bumping an old post, but I am playing with numbers lately.


Deep respect, :!: Thank you
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: trustno1 on January 31, 2011, 08:13:50 AM
Souza I'd love to borrow your mind, just for a day.  You come up with stuff I'd never think of or put together.  Reading your posts I often feel like the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz, "if I only had a brain..."  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI Update #5a: DO you Think 4 your Self?
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 31, 2011, 11:17:47 AM
Quote from: "trustno1"
Souza I'd love to borrow your mind, just for a day.  
It doesn't work that well during the day. So if you appreciate your good night sleep, I wouldn't recommend it :lol:
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