Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => The Death Certificate, The Autopsy Report & The Will => After June 25, 2009 => The Coroner and Autopsy Report => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on May 09, 2010, 12:55:08 PM
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This picture clearly shows Michaels bald patch on the top of his head.
NO WIG!!! - maybe a few weaves?
Looks to me to be in the same place as his Pepsi burns (which were not mentioned in the autopsy report)
Can anyone tell me what time period this was taken?
Many thanks.. this is for the investigation, not to pick MJs looks apart. Hope you understand.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/MrsPeppers2/baldpatch.jpg)
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the photo comes from MJ visit to Korea in June 1999 for Michael and Friends concert.
I am not able to put the link here as some error pops up but if you google "michael-visits-seoul-korea-for-a-very-special-michael-jackson-friends-concert" you should get the link with more info and photos from the event
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I just discussed this with chappie a few days ago. I have not seen many pictures of Mike himself wearing a wig, maybe not even one. When I see him wearing a wig that's when I go hmmmm.
Some say he wore wigs because of the burn, but that's not very likely. The Pepsi-'accident' was in '84, yet we see him after that with his own hair. Maybe he had some extensions here and there, but definately his own hair:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig2.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig3.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig4.jpg)
If those are wigs then I am Queen Elizabeth...
Of course it's possible that he was just balding like a lot of guys do after their 30's and 40's, but there are some pictures released of This is It of which I think is really him and not one of the doubles on which he also has no wig.
And besides this picture posted in the original post, I have never really seen the bald spot, so he is pretty capable of covering it.
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The 02 pic is definitely a wig, whomever is wearing it.
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eehhmmmmm i'm a little lost here...
Please help me out!!
WHAT has this have to do with the hoax????
Am I stupid or what
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eehhmmmmm i'm a little lost here...
Please help me out!!
WHAT has this have to do with the hoax????
Am I stupid or what
Autopsy report said he was bald with peach fuzz and wearing a wig.
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eehhmmmmm i'm a little lost here...
Please help me out!!
WHAT has this have to do with the hoax????
Am I stupid or what
Me too... Is the wig a sign or what??
Mike wasn't in his 20's when this pic was taken... I know many young men with less hair on their head than this...
Uhmmm wheres the hoax here.... Help
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eehhmmmmm i'm a little lost here...
Please help me out!!
WHAT has this have to do with the hoax????
Am I stupid or what
Autopsy report said he was bald with peach fuzz and wearing a wig.
I read that but WHAT has a wig have to do with the hoax
Is it a clue when he will come back or.......
please tell me because i'm to simple for this i guess
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eehhmmmmm i'm a little lost here...
Please help me out!!
WHAT has this have to do with the hoax????
Am I stupid or what
Me too... Is the wig a sign or what??
Mike wasn't in his 20's when this pic was taken... I know many young men with less hair on their head than this...
Uhmmm wheres the hoax here.... Help
Its called an investigation. Have you read the autopsy report????
It says Mj was bald with peach fuzz and head tattoos and wearing a wig.
Im looking at evidence that may disprove that... or prove it.
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I just discussed this with chappie a few days ago. I have not seen many pictures of Mike himself wearing a wig, maybe not even one. When I see him wearing a wig that's when I go hmmmm.
Some say he wore wigs because of the burn, but that's not very likely. The Pepsi-'accident' was in '84, yet we see him after that with his own hair. Maybe he had some extensions here and there, but definately his own hair:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig2.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig3.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig4.jpg)
If those are wigs then I am Queen Elizabeth...
Of course it's possible that he was just balding like a lot of guys do after their 30's and 40's, but there are some pictures released of This is It of which I think is really him and not one of the doubles on which he also has no wig.
And besides this picture posted in the original post, I have never really seen the bald spot, so he is pretty capable of covering it.
sorry im lost are you saying all those pics are mj and that he isn't wearing a wig?
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@ dancingthedream
Its called an investigation. Have you read the autopsy report????
Uhmm you mean the autopsy report you all think that's fake???
Then yes i read it... But it's fake right???
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Found this pic from the Pepsi accident, not very clear but you can clearly see the patch. Seems to be the same spot.
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/jackson-hair-415x540.jpg)
However, I strongly believe Michael wore wigs and extensions but perhaps not all the time. How do you go from afro to this (naturally):
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/Fell-In-Love-With-A-Beautiful-Stranger-In-Moscow-michael-jackson-10802300-591-604.jpg)
Also check the hairlines. To me it's pretty obvious many times...
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I just discussed this with chappie a few days ago. I have not seen many pictures of Mike himself wearing a wig, maybe not even one. When I see him wearing a wig that's when I go hmmmm.
What about the 2005 trials?
Maybe the burn scar was not that big, so when he was young as in the pics you posted, was enough with some extensions to cover them. Then with the age, he needed something else... I'm guessing.
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I may be in the minority but I have believed that MJ was wearing wigs and hair extensions for many years. The fake side burns were always a dead give away too. Take a closer look at the "In The Closet" picture. Some wigs that he used in recent years were bone straight plus had a very unnatural looking thickness. Take a closer look at his pictures from the 2005 trial. The hairline also causes me to believe that these were wigs.
Chemicals could have relaxed his hair texture but not necessarily straighten it to that exteme. Over time his hair had to suffer from the constant use of chemicals so wigs and extensions were probably used more to conceal the damage.
I could be wrong if these pictures are not of MJ and we're looking at someone else... :lol:
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OMG, that Pepsi burn picture...I HATE IT. I can almost feels Michael's pain from that terrible burn. I always avoid looking at it. It infuriates me that it was ever made public, as with a lot of other stuff that made it through by way of the tabloid media express. I hate that picture. I wish it would go away. Michael should not have suffered all he did. It does not seem logical or fair or even imaginable. He suffered too much pain all his damn life. I hate it.
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eehhmmmmm i'm a little lost here...
Please help me out!!
WHAT has this have to do with the hoax????
Am I stupid or what
Me too... Is the wig a sign or what??
Mike wasn't in his 20's when this pic was taken... I know many young men with less hair on their head than this...
Uhmmm wheres the hoax here.... Help
Its called an investigation. Have you read the autopsy report????
It says Mj was bald with peach fuzz and head tattoos and wearing a wig.
eehhmmm do you mean that FAKE piece of paper??
I read it briefly but then again how does a wig fit into the hoax??
What does it stand for??
Im looking at evidence that may disprove that... or prove it.
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Found this pic from the Pepsi accident, not very clear but you can clearly see the patch. Seems to be the same spot.
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/jackson-hair-415x540.jpg)
However, I strongly believe Michael wore wigs and extensions but perhaps not all the time. How do you go from afro to this (naturally):
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/Fell-In-Love-With-A-Beautiful-Stranger-In-Moscow-michael-jackson-10802300-591-604.jpg)
Also check the hairlines. To me it's pretty obvious many times...
Yes.. looks like the same spot as the original photo i posted.
Could it be possible he had his own curly hair.. and then sometimes wore wigs OVER his hair to create the straight look?
Ive noticed when he is in concert and jumping and dancing around, he always reverts back to his curly hair. "Curls for his girls"
Could this be because a wig would fly off when he is dancing and sweating in concerts?
He reverted back in TII to the curly look too.
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something went wrong :oops:
this was what i wrote
eehhmmm do you mean that FAKE piece of paper??
I read it briefly but then again how does a wig fit into the hoax??
What does it stand for??
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The autopsy report said that Michael is bald .. What?, You can say bald, with long hair or whatever, I think that he is alive. ;)
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definitely wore wigs. already been over this plenty times. :D
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something went wrong :oops:
this was what i wrote
eehhmmm do you mean that FAKE piece of paper??
I read it briefly but then again how does a wig fit into the hoax??
What does it stand for??
I just read the first post on your blog and I don't get that if you say 'stop the hunt' and "Michael wants peace, don't dig into his life", why you are on a hoax site now?
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I may be in the minority but I have believed that MJ was wearing wigs and hair extensions for many years. The fake side burns were always a dead give away too. Take a closer look at the "In The Closet" picture. Some wigs that he used in recent years were bone straight plus had a very unnatural looking thickness. Take a closer look at his pictures from the 2005 trial. The hairline also causes me to believe that these were wigs.
Chemicals could have relaxed his hair texture but not necessarily straighten it to that exteme. Over time his hair had to suffer from the constant use of chemicals so wigs and extensions were probably used more to conceal the damage.
I could be wrong if these pictures are not of MJ and we're looking at someone else... :lol:
:lol: :lol:
I know, but it doesn't explain why he is not wearing a wig at the pictures released of This is it. They are not of very good quality, but it sure looks like his natural hair to me. And if he was balding at the hairline, why not implants? The wigs are mostly something from the last decade. It's a good solution if you need to cover up some ears of course. And if the double needs a wig, you better get one yourself as well, or people will notice something is off.
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something went wrong :oops:
this was what i wrote
eehhmmm do you mean that FAKE piece of paper??
I read it briefly but then again how does a wig fit into the hoax??
What does it stand for??
We don't know for sure if the AR's fake and I assume that DTD's purpose of this thread is to investigate the AR before simply dismissing it as fake just to be in favour of the hoax theory. The AR states that Michael had "peach fuss", bald patches and was wearing a wig which DTD has already explained. If it can be proven that Michael wasn't wearing wigs it could prove this statement in the AR to be fake and perhaps even the whole AR. Hope I explained it well enough.
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something went wrong :oops:
this was what i wrote
eehhmmm do you mean that FAKE piece of paper??
I read it briefly but then again how does a wig fit into the hoax??
What does it stand for??
I just read the first post on your blog and I don't get that if you say 'stop the hunt' and "Michael wants peace, don't dig into his life", why you are on a hoax site now?
My thoughts exactly Souza :? :?
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Thank you Souza for stopping by the blog...
See a long time ago i was on the hoax train and wow what a ride... But after being contacted by one of Mikes close friends ( and yes i have seen evidence) then i got of the train..
Sometimes i still look around here which i think is okay...
I'm here to let you see things from another perspective... It's not okay to rip him apart.. If you know how much he respect his private life and when i say private i mean private...
You all keep saying let's respect this and that and let do it for Michael.. Well you're not helping him at the moment and especially not when you doubt his mothers skills.. Remember again Michael love his mother very much....
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@hesouthere
If you want to discuss this.. can you start your own thread about it instead of hijacking mine?
This thread is about investigating the autopsy... not about what you are talking about.
Thanks.
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Found this pic from the Pepsi accident, not very clear but you can clearly see the patch. Seems to be the same spot.
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/jackson-hair-415x540.jpg)
However, I strongly believe Michael wore wigs and extensions but perhaps not all the time. How do you go from afro to this (naturally):
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/Fell-In-Love-With-A-Beautiful-Stranger-In-Moscow-michael-jackson-10802300-591-604.jpg)
Also check the hairlines. To me it's pretty obvious many times...
Yes.. looks like the same spot as the original photo i posted.
Could it be possible he had his own curly hair.. and then sometimes wore wigs OVER his hair to create the straight look?
Ive noticed when he is in concert and jumping and dancing around, he always reverts back to his curly hair. "Curls for his girls"
Could this be because a wig would fly off when he is dancing and sweating in concerts?
He reverted back in TII to the curly look too.
Anyway.. back to the topic. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Ive always thought MJs curls for girls was significant in some way.
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Just check out if one of the jacksons is bold.
Would it be Michael?
Don't think so.
Extensions ok but imo no wig during this it it and al the other live performances.
Could it be a wig is only there to hide ears?
Chappie
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i dont like seeing that pix, the horror and the pain
those minutes of pain must have seem so long
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
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MJ in TII with the curls.. :D
This is something i have only realised tonight.. that whenever MJ performed a tour he always reverted back to his curls.
Yes.. it took me time. :lol:
I always believed that in his later years MJ did wear a wig.. but now im thinking his curly hair WAS his natural hair and not a wig.. maybe a few weaves here and there, but mostly natural.
This would disprove the AR.
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Thank you Souza for stopping by the blog...
See a long time ago i was on the hoax train and wow what a ride... But after being contacted by one of Mikes close friends ( and yes i have seen evidence) then i got of the train..
Sometimes i still look around here which i think is okay...
I'm here to let you see things from another perspective... It's not okay to rip him apart.. If you know how much he respect his private life and when i say private i mean private...
You all keep saying let's respect this and that and let do it for Michael.. Well you're not helping him at the moment and especially not when you doubt his mothers skills.. Remember again Michael love his mother very much....
i don't quite see any 'ripping apart' here when we are analyzing pictures of mike to seek evidence for a fake autopsy report. outside of a forum like this, nobody seems to do it and we still feel it needs to be pointed out. the autopsy report has many details that just don't fit, this is just one of them.
to me, peace for mike means that everything has to be looked into to find out what really happened. nothing more, nothing less.
:mrgreen:
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something went wrong :oops:
this was what i wrote
eehhmmm do you mean that FAKE piece of paper??
I read it briefly but then again how does a wig fit into the hoax??
What does it stand for??
I just read the first post on your blog and I don't get that if you say 'stop the hunt' and "Michael wants peace, don't dig into his life", why you are on a hoax site now?
Thank you Souza for stopping by the blog...
See a long time ago i was on the hoax train and wow what a ride... But after being contacted by one of Mikes close friends ( and yes i have seen evidence) then i got of the train..
Sometimes i still look around here which i think is okay...
I'm here to let you see things from another perspective... It's not okay to rip him apart.. If you know how much he respect his private life and when i say private i mean private...
You all keep saying let's respect this and that and let do it for Michael.. Well you're not helping him at the moment and especially not when you doubt his mothers skills.. Remember again Michael love his mother very much....
hesoutthere and dvdg1, are you a couple from a same blog or something?
I don´t understand, sorry. :?
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
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See a long time ago i was on the hoax train and wow what a ride... But after being contacted by one of Mikes close friends ( and yes i have seen evidence) then i got of the train..
You better say what or just keep silence... you´re the umpteenth saying so and not saying anything at all.
hesouthere do you have something to do with an old and gone soon member here called youarenear?
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
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See a long time ago i was on the hoax train and wow what a ride... But after being contacted by one of Mikes close friends ( and yes i have seen evidence) then i got of the train..
You better say what or just keep silence... you´re the umpteenth saying so and not saying anything at all.
hesouthere do you have something to do with an old and gone soon member here called youarenear?
No i don't know anyone called youarenear... I have no idea who this person is...
What is it you want me to say????
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Oh Ok, thank you.
No, I wanted to ask not to say.
Well yes, saying:
You better say what (evidence) or just keep silence... you´re the umpteenth saying so and not saying anything at all.
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
You've seen the evidence with your own eyes ?
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Oh Ok, thank you.
No, I wanted to ask not to say.
Well yes, saying:
You better say what (evidence) or just keep silence... you´re the umpteenth saying so and not saying anything at all.
You're welcome
Look i'm not here to bash anyone..
I'm here because i want to tell you things regarding Mike and how much certain things hurts him..
But i have to tell my special friend that i couldn't do anything about it....
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So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
Be very careful, you wouldn't be the first person Bad Camp is playing with. We have witnessed people falling into the wrong hands, being totally convinced they were dealing with legit people, Mike's friends... Be very careful, and be extremely careful with spreading messages by these so called 'special friends' on here. There are a lot of people on the internet with very, very bad intentions when it comes to this hoax...
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
You've seen the evidence with your own eyes ?
Yes i have and it made me jump of the train very quickly.......
Anyway i'm not here to "steal" any of M&S members... I'm here to open your eyes...
Again i couldn't
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Hoax – a way of grieving?
http://whataboutmj.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... -grieving/ (http://whataboutmj.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/hoax-a-way-of-grieving/)
When someone close to you dies, it is devastating and you grieve in a certain way that fits you. I feel tempted to say that the hoax-grief is some kind of mass hysteria, where people inflicts others with their mourning and grief, and this all escalate into something of huge dimensions.
None of them will get out on the other side of this grief, as long as thousands of others keeps it alive.
:lol:
You know all of us eh!
I hope the evidence you´re talking about has a little more of argumenting from your side.
You´re not here to bash, but on your blog you seem to judge us as a whole person at a time.
Um
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Anyway i'm not here to "steal" any of M&S members... I'm here to open your eyes...
Again i couldn't
That´s really patronizing form a person who we don´t know and who doesn´t prove to know more than us.
And for such a huge task you should leave alone Dancing´s thread intention and open your own.
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So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
Be very careful, you wouldn't be the first person Bad Camp is playing with. We have witnessed people falling into the wrong hands, being totally convinced they were dealing with legit people, Mike's friends... Be very careful, and be extremely careful with spreading messages by these so called 'special friends' on here. There are a lot of people on the internet with very, very bad intentions when it comes to this hoax...
i know you have i've seen it myself a long time ago.... But i'm telling you this is for real.... This is not something i just say for the 15 minutes of fame... That's disrespectfull and i'm not like that..
Again i have seen the evidence and i know they are legit....
I am aware of these persons claming anything but again i'm not like that at all... After i saw the evidence i started to make videos on YouTube asking people to please stop and listen to what Mike says or said... He is not happy at the moment... Hes really not happy
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Hoax – a way of grieving?
http://whataboutmj.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... -grieving/ (http://whataboutmj.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/hoax-a-way-of-grieving/)
When someone close to you dies, it is devastating and you grieve in a certain way that fits you. I feel tempted to say that the hoax-grief is some kind of mass hysteria, where people inflicts others with their mourning and grief, and this all escalate into something of huge dimensions.
None of them will get out on the other side of this grief, as long as thousands of others keeps it alive.
:lol:
You know all of us eh!
I hope the evidence you´re talking about has a little more of argumenting from your side.
You´re not here to bash, but on your blog you seem to judge us as a whole person at a time.
Um
This blog is created for a reason... A very big reason
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OMG! Another insider!
Another one to open our eyes just saying open your eyes.
Stop the hoax?
Authorities should stop the hoax by making all this clear.
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MJ in TII with the curls.. :D
This is something i have only realised tonight.. that whenever MJ performed a tour he always reverted back to his curls.
Yes.. it took me time. :lol:
I always believed that in his later years MJ did wear a wig.. but now im thinking his curly hair WAS his natural hair and not a wig.. maybe a few weaves here and there, but mostly natural.
This would disprove the AR.
i agree i think the straight hair may have been wigs but i always felt he had always had his full curly hair hidden under lol i love his curls and i think they are natural never doubted it, maybe he just worse a piece over the bald spot but i never once thought his curls were wigs :)
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This blog is created for a reason... A very big reason
Let me guess... a very big reason that you´re gonna cryptically explain?
So let´s be clear...
You believe/know he´s alive or death?
You are gonna prove you know something or not?
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So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
Be very careful, you wouldn't be the first person Bad Camp is playing with. We have witnessed people falling into the wrong hands, being totally convinced they were dealing with legit people, Mike's friends... Be very careful, and be extremely careful with spreading messages by these so called 'special friends' on here. There are a lot of people on the internet with very, very bad intentions when it comes to this hoax...
i know you have i've seen it myself a long time ago.... But i'm telling you this is for real.... This is not something i just say for the 15 minutes of fame... That's disrespectfull and i'm not like that..
Again i have seen the evidence and i know they are legit....
I am aware of these persons claming anything but again i'm not like that at all... After i saw the evidence i started to make videos on YouTube asking people to please stop and listen to what Mike says or said... He is not happy at the moment... Hes really not happy
Oh really? IF, and I say IF, Mike would have a problem with this website, then he could simply ask the Estate to contact us and ask or urge us to take the website offline. Yet, in all these months, we have not received ONE request from the Estate, nor from a family member, asking us to do so. I don't think Mike needs his friends to approach hoaxers to let them know he's unhappy about all this while there are several (legal) ways to stop us from what we are doing here.
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What I truly would care to know is if the hair follicles were damaged from the Pepsi burn on the area of scalp that is exposed on the photo above or did they get that fire out before causing any damage? Has anyone ever heard of any credible information released in regards to this???? This would give us a better indication as to whether or not new hair would be able to grow from that section.
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Ok, now cut it out and please go back to your own website, if you really think that would be helping Mike.
But let me tell you one thing, just food for thought. If Mike would not like the investigation, if he wants privacy, then why didn't he make this 'death' more believable? If this site would do him harm, then why aren't those people contacting us? We have stated many times in the very beginning that if this would not be what he wants, we would stop immediately. Yet no one has sent us an e-mail and asked us to stop and take the site down. Mike could ask one of his siblings to contact us and ask us to get the site down. They shouldn't even have to mention he's alive, just telling us the family doesn't appreciate it would do the trick. I am sure that Jermaine for example could easily proof it's him, since he has been here in Holland multiple times lately. Yet NO ONE contacted us, besides some that claimed to be a 'close friend' or 'girlfriend'. You wouldn't believe how many girlfriends and friends he had right before June 25.
Like I said, even IF they have shown you proof, doesn't mean they are trustworthy, believe me.
We keep investigating here and if you don't like it, leave and go spread your message on your own website. Don't say we have to open our eyes, because we already did that and stopping the investigation would mean closing them again.
Now this thread is about wigs, not your 'informers', so please back on topic again.
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The only thing I can remember is on his Private Home Movies, when a child breaks an egg on MJ´s head, that he says he wouldn´t allow this (laughing and funny to the kid) because he had surgery there. I guess it shows that it was a wounded area. If I´m not wrong you can´t see him bald there, so if he was it was lightly. But a delicate area... don´t know if I explained myself.
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Well said Souza.
Regarding Michael's hair I think that transplanted hair just on the area were he has been burnt can be a possibility if they didn't grow well after this burning.
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I agree with the possibility that Michael could have done a transplant.
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in 2nd degree burn the adnexal including hair follicle are often involved but enough of these structures are preserved for function , the epithelium ( cells ) lining them can proliferate and allows the regrowth of skin
but to remind something. he had discoid lupus , according to dr arnold it was in remission phase though
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The only thing I can remember is on his Private Home Movies, when a child breaks an egg on MJ´s head, that he says he wouldn´t allow this (laughing and funny to the kid) because he had surgery there. I guess it shows that it was a wounded area. If I´m not wrong you can´t see him bald there, so if he was it was lightly. But a delicate area... don´t know if I explained myself.
I thought he said why do i let them do this. lol
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Yes, perfectly... I´ve looked for it and that´s what I found, but I also remember the other phrase... can be my mind playing funny tricks... ;)
I´ve seen that he participated on the joke though, puts the fedora out and get down on his knees. And the egg is smashed carefully and on another side, more to the back of the scalp.
It´s so funny that I couldn´t avoid seeing it all again :lol:
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Hmm well my brother has that same patch :D
But I do believe Michael wore wigs but only when his hair is straight :)
The curly hair I believe is his and I'm guessing maybe even This Is It is his hair(possibly ;) )
But I can just say well that patch isn't that big I could barely notice ;) Thnx for the pix guys ;)
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People claiming they've seen evidence of something without showing us or telling us what it is are really making me go :evil: . If it's so important to convince others about it why not just say it straight out? gah!
Anyway, about the hair. The problem with TII is that we can't really see the hairline that well and perhaps that's on purpose to hide if it was a wig. If Michael had all that hair all the time why would he even start wearing the straight haired wigs in the first place? Also remember that he has lupus which can cause hair loss (not always permanent though). If he lost a lot of his hair only a while ago it would take some time for it to grow as long as it is was in TII, especially since the hair's curly.
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:? I am now totally lost. Are the This Is Not It people saying we are hurting dead Michael with the investigating; or that they have become semi believers and we are hurting the hoaxed Michael? Or they know that Michael is not dead and a friend who is in touch with him has said he wishes us to stop? Or is it that we are delusional and should see the light and stop the investigating because if Michael was not dead he wouldn't like it??? For heaven's sake I am completely confused.
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I just discussed this with chappie a few days ago. I have not seen many pictures of Mike himself wearing a wig, maybe not even one. When I see him wearing a wig that's when I go hmmmm.
Some say he wore wigs because of the burn, but that's not very likely. The Pepsi-'accident' was in '84, yet we see him after that with his own hair. Maybe he had some extensions here and there, but definately his own hair:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig1.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig2.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig3.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/nowig4.jpg)
If those are wigs then I am Queen Elizabeth...
Of course it's possible that he was just balding like a lot of guys do after their 30's and 40's, but there are some pictures released of This is It of which I think is really him and not one of the doubles on which he also has no wig.
And besides this picture posted in the original post, I have never really seen the bald spot, so he is pretty capable of covering it.
sorry im lost are you saying all those pics are mj and that he isn't wearing a wig?
All of these pictures are Michael and they all look like his natural hair so I guess the answer to your question would be yes.
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Found this pic from the Pepsi accident, not very clear but you can clearly see the patch. Seems to be the same spot.
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/jackson-hair-415x540.jpg)
However, I strongly believe Michael wore wigs and extensions but perhaps not all the time. How do you go from afro to this (naturally):
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/Fell-In-Love-With-A-Beautiful-Stranger-In-Moscow-michael-jackson-10802300-591-604.jpg)
Also check the hairlines. To me it's pretty obvious many times...
My gosh - my sister (who is caucasian) has naturally curly hair and lots of it. For years she's used a straight iron in order to keep her hair straight. In humidity her hair would friz like you wouldn't believe. Finally, she was told about a professional product that straightens the hair. It's like a perm but does the opposite. It lasts about 4-6 months at a time. But, this product tames the curles and she no longer has to use the straight iron every day. Amazing products are on the market and I'm sure that Michael was privy to many products in his line of work that the normal person couldn't afford.
Of course the picture of his accident shows no hair. None of us would have hair after having a fire on our head. But that doesn't mean he's destined to live like that. Some hair could have grown back. Many years has passed since the accident. Sometimes I think we really try hard to make the story fit into our theory. Please, Michael was only 50 - that doesn't mean he's automatically going to be bald.
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MJ in TII with the curls.. :D
This is something i have only realised tonight.. that whenever MJ performed a tour he always reverted back to his curls.
Yes.. it took me time. :lol:
I always believed that in his later years MJ did wear a wig.. but now im thinking his curly hair WAS his natural hair and not a wig.. maybe a few weaves here and there, but mostly natural.
This would disprove the AR.
Well, I remember some mjkit member making a theory on this, sort of "Michael always reverted back to the curly hairsatyle, because that was the real Michael (at stage), and the off stage/every day/different hairstlyle Michael was not him" or something like that. Maybe any other old member remember it. Personally I did never agree with it, though.
Anyway, I think that not every time he had straight hair he was wearing a wig.
Maybe just in the "2000's straight hairstyle" (not totally sure 30th Anniversary, 2005 Trial, J. Brown's funeral, O2 Press Conference, just to name some random events), but not the "90's straight hairstyle" (Michael at Oprah, 'Prime Time' interview wit LMP, Remember the Times or Childhood vid).
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So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
Be very careful, you wouldn't be the first person Bad Camp is playing with. We have witnessed people falling into the wrong hands, being totally convinced they were dealing with legit people, Mike's friends... Be very careful, and be extremely careful with spreading messages by these so called 'special friends' on here. There are a lot of people on the internet with very, very bad intentions when it comes to this hoax...
i know you have i've seen it myself a long time ago.... But i'm telling you this is for real.... This is not something i just say for the 15 minutes of fame... That's disrespectfull and i'm not like that..
Again i have seen the evidence and i know they are legit....
I am aware of these persons claming anything but again i'm not like that at all... After i saw the evidence i started to make videos on YouTube asking people to please stop and listen to what Mike says or said... He is not happy at the moment... Hes really not happy
oh come on. if michael was pissed off at us, he would tell us. he knows what we're looking at (TS/TMZ/Twitters, etc) and he would direct clues to let us know he doesn't like our direction. i wish people would stop coming on here trying to convince us they've found michael jackson's bestest friend in the entire world who just so happened to reach out to a random person to show evidence and spill "the secret." do you guys honestly believe that after MONTHS of investigating (i.e. not taking things as fact just because someone said it) that we'd throw up our hands and say "oh shit, michael's friend's sister's brother's cousin's friend's veterinarian's mother's cousin told a 'believer' (or ex believer) the truth! after 10 months! "
sorry. michael if you're pissed off, pm me. i, for one, think everyone here is doing a fantastic job. keep doing what you're doing guys, we're learning about love, truth and the reality of the world today from michael and each other. i don't think michael would be pissed off about that.
back to the topic:
curly hair= real hair. he could have used wigs sometimes, but i don't think all the time. i also think the autopsy report is a fake. i completely support the original poster's thoughts
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... that we'd throw up our hands and say "oh shit, michael's friend's sister's brother's cousin's friend's veterinarian's mother's cousin told a 'believer' (or ex believer) the truth! after 10 months! "
I think I love you.
But anyways..
Michael has used a wig for a long time (I'm sure at least since YANA)
I'm sure his curly hair is his real hair because a wig would get all sweaty and gross under the lights and after all the dancing. So it's safe to say Michael's hair is naturally curly, and the straight hair is a wig. I don't think he got it relaxed. He could have also used a row of extensions to hide his bald spot. It's really easy to do, as I've seen one of my friends pull it off after teasing her hair for so long made a huge bald spot.
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I agree with voiceforthesilent they are very good products and techniques nowadays to perfectly straighten all types of hair. I don't think that Michael wears wigs, doubles yes. Now I'm thinking of the O2 dude who is definitely wearing a wig...
The autopsy report is fake Michael is not bald it is clear to me that throughout the years it was always his hair. Just look at his photos after the accident, it's his hair.
Plus we can add that nodody in the Jackson family is bald and it is very often hereditary and most often it appears at a younger age than 40 or 50 years old. I rather think that Michael had at least some growth problem or hair loss in the area in question and that it took time to recover.
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I agree with voiceforthesilent they are very good products and techniques nowadays to perfectly straighten all types of hair. I don't think that Michael wears wigs, doubles yes. Now I'm thinking of the O2 dude who is definitely wearing a wig...
The autopsy report is fake Michael is not bald it is clear to me that throughout the years it was always his hair. Just look at his photos after the accident, it's his hair.
Plus we can add that nodody in the Jackson family is bald and it is very often hereditary and most often it appears at a younger age than 40 or 50 years old. I rather think that Michael had at least some growth problem or hair loss in the area in question and that it took time to recover.
How about Randy, the youngest of the brothers?
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I agree with voiceforthesilent they are very good products and techniques nowadays to perfectly straighten all types of hair. I don't think that Michael wears wigs, doubles yes. Now I'm thinking of the O2 dude who is definitely wearing a wig...
The autopsy report is fake Michael is not bald it is clear to me that throughout the years it was always his hair. Just look at his photos after the accident, it's his hair.
Plus we can add that nodody in the Jackson family is bald and it is very often hereditary and most often it appears at a younger age than 40 or 50 years old. I rather think that Michael had at least some growth problem or hair loss in the area in question and that it took time to recover.
How about Randy, the youngest of the brothers?
I thought he shaved his hair on purpose. :? :? :?
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Found this pic from the Pepsi accident, not very clear but you can clearly see the patch. Seems to be the same spot.
(http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/jackson-hair-415x540.jpg)
However, I strongly believe Michael wore wigs and extensions but perhaps not all the time. How do you go from afro to this (naturally):
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10800000/Fell-In-Love-With-A-Beautiful-Stranger-In-Moscow-michael-jackson-10802300-591-604.jpg)
Also check the hairlines. To me it's pretty obvious many times...
My gosh - my sister (who is caucasian) has naturally curly hair and lots of it. For years she's used a straight iron in order to keep her hair straight. In humidity her hair would friz like you wouldn't believe. Finally, she was told about a professional product that straightens the hair. It's like a perm but does the opposite. It lasts about 4-6 months at a time. But, this product tames the curles and she no longer has to use the straight iron every day. Amazing products are on the market and I'm sure that Michael was privy to many products in his line of work that the normal person couldn't afford.
Of course the picture of his accident shows no hair. None of us would have hair after having a fire on our head. But that doesn't mean he's destined to live like that. Some hair could have grown back. Many years has passed since the accident. Sometimes I think we really try hard to make the story fit into our theory. Please, Michael was only 50 - that doesn't mean he's automatically going to be bald.
I'm not trying to fit anything into a theory. If I wanted to make it fit with the hoax theory I'd just state that it was his natural hair and that the AR is fake. However, that is not my opinion since I do believe he wore wigs and extensions at times although he might not have been bald.
I agree that Michael if anyone could afford the best hair treatments there are but straightening "caucasian" curly hair and "afrohair " (hope that doesn't sound offensive just trying to explain...) is not the same thing. I have many friends that are hairdressers and friends with afrohair that have straightened their hair and it could never become the same texture as in some pictures we've seen of Michael. Even Beyonce wears wigs and extensions, wouldn't she too be able to afford the best hair treatments? And she performs while wearing them. The "CHildhood" hair I def believe is a wig, there's a close-up of him and LMP where you can see the lines/"glue" on the sideburns. I can't find the pic but I'm sure many of you know which pic I'm refering to.
Age doesn't matter that much, my dad started losing hair around his late 20's. It's often genetic (I'm glad I'm not a boy :lol: ). And don't forget, as I said before, that Michael has Lupus which can cause hairloss.
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I agree with voiceforthesilent they are very good products and techniques nowadays to perfectly straighten all types of hair. I don't think that Michael wears wigs, doubles yes. Now I'm thinking of the O2 dude who is definitely wearing a wig...
The autopsy report is fake Michael is not bald it is clear to me that throughout the years it was always his hair. Just look at his photos after the accident, it's his hair.
Plus we can add that nodody in the Jackson family is bald and it is very often hereditary and most often it appears at a younger age than 40 or 50 years old. I rather think that Michael had at least some growth problem or hair loss in the area in question and that it took time to recover.
How about Randy, the youngest of the brothers?
I thought he shaved his hair on purpose. :? :? :?
Could be...
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
evidence for what?? that he is dead or that he is alive? and i think we all want to see those evidence.... its not the fake casket photo is it?
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I agree with the possibility that Michael could have done a transplant.
i belive he could... but it might be hard to transplant on a burnt patch ..... but in lots of photos it also seems, to me, that he has weave ins...
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sorry some people have to work still want to answer..
so you don't know Michael
Yes the source is very reliable
No this source isn't on forums, twitter , you tube or anything
This source isnt famous and doesn't want to be famous
Yes we have seen the evidence
No we can't tell you what evidence because we won't have a source then anymore
Yes you will scratch yourself behind your ears when the truth will prevail
And yes i still don't understand what wearing or not wearing a wig has to do with this hoax
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sorry some people have to work still want to answer..
so you don't know Michael
Yes the source is very reliable
No this source isn't on forums, twitter , you tube or anything
This source isnt famous and doesn't want to be famous
Yes we have seen the evidence
No we can't tell you what evidence because we won't have a source then anymore
Yes you will scratch yourself behind your ears when the truth will prevail
And yes i still don't understand what wearing or not wearing a wig has to do with this hoax
We're NOT going there again dvdg1, that's a closed discussion, period.
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sorry some people have to work still want to answer..
so you don't know Michael
Yes the source is very reliable
No this source isn't on forums, twitter , you tube or anything
This source isnt famous and doesn't want to be famous
Yes we have seen the evidence
No we can't tell you what evidence because we won't have a source then anymore
Yes you will scratch yourself behind your ears when the truth will prevail
And yes i still don't understand what wearing or not wearing a wig has to do with this hoax
We're NOT going there again dvdg1, that's a closed discussion, period.
like i told you some people have a job and i still wanted to answer Mo
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sorry some people have to work still want to answer..
so you don't know Michael
Yes the source is very reliable
No this source isn't on forums, twitter , you tube or anything
This source isnt famous and doesn't want to be famous
Yes we have seen the evidence
No we can't tell you what evidence because we won't have a source then anymore
Yes you will scratch yourself behind your ears when the truth will prevail
And yes i still don't understand what wearing or not wearing a wig has to do with this hoax
We're NOT going there again dvdg1, that's a closed discussion, period.
like i told you some people have a job and i still wanted to answer Mo
:D JUST SIMMER DOWN AND JOIN THE PARTY IN THE PADDED CELL :lol: :lol:
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
HI! WHY DON´T YOU SHOW US THIS EVIDENCE AND STOP TO BE SO CRYPTIC... I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH! AND WHY, IF YOU KNOW AND BELIEVE WHAT THIS LEGIT PERSON TOLD YOU, ARE YOU HERE? ON A HOAX FORUM? :roll:
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
HI! WHY DON´T YOU SHOW US THIS EVIDENCE AND STOP TO BE SO CRYPTIC... I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH! AND WHY, IF YOU KNOW AND BELIEVE WHAT THIS LEGIT PERSON TOLD YOU, ARE YOU HERE? ON A HOAX FORUM? :roll:
please read what we are telling you then you woulden't ask a question like that ;)
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
HI! WHY DON´T YOU SHOW US THIS EVIDENCE AND STOP TO BE SO CRYPTIC... I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH! AND WHY, IF YOU KNOW AND BELIEVE WHAT THIS LEGIT PERSON TOLD YOU, ARE YOU HERE? ON A HOAX FORUM? :roll:
Yes Stop Beating around the bush and spit the Bricks already......Dont say you have Proof, if your not going to back it up with evidence!!! it makes your claims totally invalid.... so dvdg1, hesoutthere start showing some "proof"
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Very true awesome1 if anyone has evidence that the show, no one has to believe otherwise because someone says one thing and everything is in words and shows no evidence :geek:
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i agree dont tell us youve seen evidence if you cant or wont back it up
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so in order to make you happy we have to show you proof and loose our source
and the admins over here are running around in circles and keep you waiting and waiting for there proof (look at the SUN article) and thats okay :shock:
:lol: you know what i'm shocked
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OK hesoutthere or dvdg1, whoever you are, although I suspect you are the same person.
I have just read your blog. You seem to be on a mission to cause trouble.
"My mission isn’t over yet. I will still be there to defend Michael and help him speak up for himself when people are ignorant like they are on the hoax forums.."
Not a very good idea believe me. We've been here a long time and have put up with other people claiming to know the truth but who are not not willing to share so here is my suggestion, and I don't really care if you think me abrupt - either share or shut up!! You accuse US of being ignorant about Michael and his family yet you demonstrate this behaviour yourself on your blog. You don't know us.
As others have already told you, this is an INVESTIGATION. We look into things in order to try to find answers. The simple fact of the matter is, if you don't like it, don't come here. We don't need to be preached. Every member on here made the decision to join this forum of their own free will. We are not in a cult and were certainly not dragged here kicking and screaming. It's called free will.
And you don't need to preach about grief either:
"When someone close to you dies, it is devastating and you grieve in a certain way that fits you. I feel tempted to say that the hoax-grief is some kind of mass hysteria, where people inflicts others with their mourning and grief, and this all escalate into something of huge dimensions.
None of them will get out on the other side of this grief, as long as thousands of others keeps it alive."
I find you patronising, insulting and just downright rude.
Mo, Souza and other members, I apologise if I have stepped out of line with this response, especially as it is not related to the OP's topic but I am just so very angry right now.
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Hum just to tell about my feelings about this : I never read the autopsy report. Just because I knew Michael had things to hide. Burn skin, scares, or whatever. If he used wig, or make up, or clothes to hide is body, that was his choice to deal with his own image. And what has not been showed during his life, shouldn't be told after his life.
I don't need to know about those stuffs... If i met Michael and i happened to see this, it would be ok, but it's not happening, and I don't want to look an autopsy repor to find out about how he really looked. I completely accept the image he wanted to give, whatever he could look like in private life. It's important to keep it like this, because that's the way he choosed it.
I prefer looking for clues in other part of his life than his physical appearance. Music, poems, relationship, funeral, this is it creation...but if the solution is in examining his intimacy, I prefer forget about it and believe what my heart feels.
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I´m with you on this one Souza.
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OK hesoutthere or dvdg1, whoever you are, although I suspect you are the same person.
I have just read your blog. You seem to be on a mission to cause trouble.
"My mission isn’t over yet. I will still be there to defend Michael and help him speak up for himself when people are ignorant like they are on the hoax forums.."
Not a very good idea believe me. We've been here a long time and have put up with other people claiming to know the truth but who are not not willing to share so here is my suggestion, and I don't really care if you think me abrupt - either share or shut up!! You accuse US of being ignorant about Michael and his family yet you demonstrate this behaviour yourself on your blog. You don't know us.
As others have already told you, this is an INVESTIGATION. We look into things in order to try to find answers. The simple fact of the matter is, if you don't like it, don't come here. We don't need to be preached. Every member on here made the decision to join this forum of their own free will. We are not in a cult and were certainly not dragged here kicking and screaming. It's called free will.
And you don't need to preach about grief either:
"When someone close to you dies, it is devastating and you grieve in a certain way that fits you. I feel tempted to say that the hoax-grief is some kind of mass hysteria, where people inflicts others with their mourning and grief, and this all escalate into something of huge dimensions.
None of them will get out on the other side of this grief, as long as thousands of others keeps it alive."
I find you patronising, insulting and just downright rude.
Mo, Souza and other members, I apologise if I have stepped out of line with this response, especially as it is not related to the OP's topic but I am just so very angry right now.
congratulations. you're my favorite person of the week. much love.
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so in order to make you happy we have to show you proof and loose our source
and the admins over here are running around in circles and keep you waiting and waiting for there proof (look at the SUN article) and thats okay :shock:
:lol: you know what i'm shocked
so you are saying that your "source" only wants you and your "friend" to know what the proof is? why, out of thousends of people, did this person say "hey you there, i will give you this proof, but its only for your eyes, dont tell no one".
if someone close to MJ wanted to give people some proof, they wouldn't just give it to ONE person, they would show it to everyone.
you dont even say if the proof is that MJ is alive or that he is dead. you only say you have proof... proof of what??
if you have the proof... of whatever... what do you need the source for? he/she allready gave you want you wanted... do you think they will give you more??? you need more proof??
maybe its time for you to crawl back down under your rock.. and stay there... :!:
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OK hesoutthere or dvdg1, whoever you are, although I suspect you are the same person.
I have just read your blog. You seem to be on a mission to cause trouble.
"My mission isn’t over yet. I will still be there to defend Michael and help him speak up for himself when people are ignorant like they are on the hoax forums.."
Not a very good idea believe me. We've been here a long time and have put up with other people claiming to know the truth but who are not not willing to share so here is my suggestion, and I don't really care if you think me abrupt - either share or shut up!! You accuse US of being ignorant about Michael and his family yet you demonstrate this behaviour yourself on your blog. You don't know us.
As others have already told you, this is an INVESTIGATION. We look into things in order to try to find answers. The simple fact of the matter is, if you don't like it, don't come here. We don't need to be preached. Every member on here made the decision to join this forum of their own free will. We are not in a cult and were certainly not dragged here kicking and screaming. It's called free will.
And you don't need to preach about grief either:
"When someone close to you dies, it is devastating and you grieve in a certain way that fits you. I feel tempted to say that the hoax-grief is some kind of mass hysteria, where people inflicts others with their mourning and grief, and this all escalate into something of huge dimensions.
None of them will get out on the other side of this grief, as long as thousands of others keeps it alive."
I find you patronising, insulting and just downright rude.
Mo, Souza and other members, I apologise if I have stepped out of line with this response, especially as it is not related to the OP's topic but I am just so very angry right now.
I agree with you.
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so in order to make you happy we have to show you proof and loose our source
Please, try to make some sense and stop contradicting yourself and being cryptic.
People here cooperates with their info. So far you and your friend just claim to be in possesion of the truth but won´t reaveal it ?
I don´t buy it.
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Hesoutthere,if I remember well,you use to be"knowshesalive"???Why are you so upset with us??What are we doing that is so wrong to you??I'm confused :?
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Back on topic please (= wigs).
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:lol: ok
possibility 1: MJ used wigs
Possibility 2: MJ used Japanese stretching hair technique. This possibility is most reliable to me. My hair is very curly and once is stretched looks like a wig at times. When I sweat, starts to curl.
Conclusion: Even if Randy Jackson is bald, I doubt Michael was. Michael was missing hair on the crown of he head but apeared to have hear all over the rest of it.
The bald guy of the autopsy repport can´t be MJ.
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If we are taking what it says the autopsy report as true, ... then we must assume that Michael died? :geek:
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I have to tell you the same as Hesoutthere
But there is one thing that I don't understand.....some people keep telling me over and over again that you know Michael Souza & Mo so why this forum
You have to know the truth then allready?
I have no idea who told you that, but what I do know is that Mike seems to have a lot of 'close friends' since he died. Don't believe anything you are told. There are a lot of people that are trying to get people off the hoax train because they don't want the truth out there. People that were close to him on certain moments in his life might be able to give you something that makes you think they know about the hoax and his reasons, but they are not all on his side or in the know about this hoax. Stopping the hoax train is stopping the truth and that is absolutely not helping Mike. Look at what he had to endure his whole life. I think he can handle this for the good cause since we are doing it as respectful as possible.
Tell me one thing: where were all these close friends when he needed them the most? All those friends on Twitter, facebook, in chatrooms and yet almost no one supported him during the trial. So do you really think they would know what he is doing now? How many people do you think he can trust with his life?
I have spoken to a lot of 'friends' of Mike, and they all had a different story, yet they all seemed to be reliable at first glance and could have made us fall for it if we didn't ask a little futher.
Mike's real friends would want the truth out there and not go into hiding and let the tabloids go on with their crap.
You can do whatever you want, but don't use our forum as your platform, use your own website.
I don't know if the friends you're talking about have showen you any evidence???
I have seen and heard the evidence and this paticular friend have been there for him in a long time.. Again Mike is a very private person and not all he is close to have been out in the open... If you look at the friends they are famous... Mike have friends that aren't famous... These friends are really close to him and means a lot to him... They know how to respect his privacy..
So after i've seen the evidence i know this person is very legit... Yes i trust this person and yes this person is close to him....
HI! WHY DON´T YOU SHOW US THIS EVIDENCE AND STOP TO BE SO CRYPTIC... I WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH! AND WHY, IF YOU KNOW AND BELIEVE WHAT THIS LEGIT PERSON TOLD YOU, ARE YOU HERE? ON A HOAX FORUM? :roll:
please read what we are telling you then you woulden't ask a question like that ;)
BYE BYE... :lol:
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If we are taking what it says the autopsy report as true, ... then we must assume that Michael died? :geek:
At the moment we have been told that he is dead ;) that autopsy repport would be the starting "legal" point to id the body as MJ.
Do we know if MJ DNA matched the body?
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Gema I respond with something I wrote in another thread:
Do not know what to think, maybe not return .. this reminds me of the change which took place at Michael's house after his "death", they took everything and very important personal items such as combs or brushes that Michael used, maybe changed his bed sheets, pillows, .. may have hair of the person using it, you are right in what you say Hopeless
This brings me to remember something that has been discussed in this forum, the person who died on 6/25/2009 was not Michael. Remember the need to do forensic DNA testing and La Toya took a hair from the "corpse" from Michael so that she took the test.
Why a person with a medical history can not be so large to be recognized with your personal physician?, Whose hair is the assumed volume La Toya, if this is true? ;)
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Well.. Im well annoyed that this thread was hijacked.
All i want to explore is the possibility that MJs hair as curly is his natural hair. MJs hair as straight is natural.
Hence.. MJ reverted back to his curly hair when he toured. Bad, Dangerous and History he had curly hair. In TII he reverted back to curly when on the stage singing and dancing.
This must be because curly hair was natural hair with a few weaves which stayed on his head when dancing and sweating.
Therefore the AR cannot be true.. it stated that MJ had a wig which lifted off.. a weave would have to be cut off.
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Well.. Im well annoyed that this thread was hijacked.
All i want to explore is the possibility that MJs hair as curly is his natural hair. MJs hair as straight is natural.
Hence.. MJ reverted back to his curly hair when he toured. Bad, Dangerous and History he had curly hair. In TII he reverted back to curly when on the stage singing and dancing.
This must be because curly hair was natural hair with a few weaves which stayed on his head when dancing and sweating.
Therefore the AR cannot be true.. it stated that MJ had a wig which lifted off.. a weave would have to be cut off.
hmm, i had to think about this one. i definitely think curly michael is his own hair. i know that sometimes the straight hair can appear to be a wig (and it very well could be), but it also depends on the thickness. i have very thick hair that happens to be curly/wavy, and if i blow dried it straight without a flat iron, i can get that poofiness that could look like wig. unfortunately, i haven't been able to know firsthand how thick michael's hair is (and he'd probably find it really creepy if i went up to him and ran my fingers through his hair). if anyone here has had that opportunity, i'll be pming you (ha ha). my point is, is that i totally agree with you that curly concert hair michael is au natural. and the autopsy is f-a-k-e.
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Ive seen pics form 2009 where MJ has curly hair which seems to be going grey.
If this was a wig, why would he choose a grey wig? I havent got the time now, but will post pics of MJ with grey hair in a while
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Michael Jackson’s Hair Loss - What Happened to his Bald Spot?
The King of Pop once wore a very different crown and almost had it taken away. It’s hard to believe that Michael Jackson once sported a full afro and everyone’s probably also forgotten that he nearly went bald at 25 after a freak fire accident.
While filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984, pyrotechnics accidentally set Jackson’s hair on fire. He was rushed to hospital and treated for second degree burns to the back of his head which scarred his hair follicles and left him with a major bald patch.
When hair-bearing skin is badly burnt, the hair follicles are destroyed and replaced by scar tissue. The hair loss is permanent and known as cicatricial (or scarring) alopecia.
Jackson was singing his hit “Billie Jean” in a simulated concert scene when the special effects went wrong. Three thousand fans saw a firework display erupt behind the superstar, showering him in sparks and setting light to his hair. Jackson covered his burning hair with his jacket but some audience members thought it was part of the act.
Jackson later underwent 80 minutes of laser surgery to repair his scalp. His surgeon Dr. Steven Hoefflin, famously known as “Doc Hollywood” who Jackson formed quite an attachment to over the years, said he was able to stitch the wound without having to implant or transplant hair from other parts of Jackson’s head.
*Update July 2009 - Since Jackson’s death in June 2009 video footage of the accident has been released showing the superstar’s hair catching alight for more than 5 seconds before his entouage and security surrounded him to put out the flames.*
According to Leonora Doclis, senior trichologist at the Belgravia Centre, while laser surgery can make the scar smaller, it won’t help in generating hair growth from the scar.
“Apparently the laser treatment reduced the scar to palm-size, but that is huge,” Leonora says. “If the follicles are damaged they will not produce hair. It is very unlikely that his hair grew back after this treatment.”
This begs the question then – what happened to Michael Jackson’s bald spot? Interestingly, the same surgeon who treated Jackson’s hair loss is responsible for Donald Trump’s comb over. He performed scalp reduction surgery to reduce the size of the business mogul’s bald spot which he now covers with the rest of his hair.
Leonora says treating cicatricial alopecia is challenging. “The best they can do without wearing a wig is if they can hide the scarred bald patch with their own hair.”
Cicatricial alopecia is a broad term that includes all forms of hair loss concerning inflammation directed at the hair follicle.
“There are several reasons for scarring hair loss. Scalding is just one and there is an autoimmune factor,” Leonora says. In addition to burns and other injuries, cicatricial alopecia can be caused by certain types of infections like granulomas, lupus erythematosus, recurring bacterial or fungal infections, a skin disease called lichen planus, and scalp ringworm.
“Therefore there is no point in transplanting hair from one side of the scalp to another when it can still be subject to an autoimmune attack.”
The progression of cicatricial alopecia as the result of an internal problem is unpredictable but hair loss is irreversible once the follicle is destroyed. Leonora says autoimmune suppressant steroids could be injected but they won’t prevent or treat hair loss.
Minoxidil, a vasodilator, may be helpful to stimulate any small, remaining, unscarred follicles but the effectiveness vastly relies on the strength of the medication required by the individual and the damage done to the hair follicles.
Despite Dr. Hoefflin’s claims that Jackson’s scalp would be completely healed within several months, Leonora has her doubts over the authenticity of Jackson’s hair.
“I think he may be covering certain areas with a hair system (hairpiece),” she says. “Some of it could be natural and he could have hair grafts which are a form of non-surgical hair replacement.”
As for his dramatic transformation from typical afro hair to the sleek style he now brandishes, Leonora says chemical straightening could be responsible, if it is indeed his real hair.
Cicatricial alopecia, whether internally or externally provoked, is a frightening and distressing condition. Diagnosis and treatment is often challenging so a consultation with a hair loss specialist is absolutely essential. Treatment for other forms of hair loss such as male or female pattern (genetic) hair loss, and alopecia can be very successful. For more information contact the Belgravia Centre, the UK’s leading hair loss clinic, on 020 7730 6666 or send an email.
And just so you know…
Back then, hair wasn’t Michael Jackson’s only concern – he’d already had two nose jobs by the time he was 25 and went for his third rhinoplasty shortly after the hair loss incident. From then on his visits with Doc. Hollywood became ever more frequent
http://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/mic ... -spot-084/ (http://www.belgraviacentre.com/blog/michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-hair-loss-what-happened-to-his-bald-spot-084/)
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(I'm ignoring the drama, but it's difficult. :shock: )
I just want to make a statement about wigs in general. Some people here say MJ couldn't wear wigs during perfomancec, because they would become greasy and gross.
That's not true. There are some amazing (lace)wigs out there. Beyonce always wears wigs while performing. Lady GaGa also wears a lot of wigs, as do other perfomers.
When it comes to MJ, I really don't have a clue if he had wigs, extentions or used relaxer. What I do know is that his head was badly damaged, yet the AR says nothing about it. That proves once more to me the AR is fake.
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There is also those "african style" hair fixed on genuine hair. I don't know how to explain but you "braid you hair" and then you sew a piece of other hair (fake or genuine) on the "plait" (sorry for all those words if they are wrong it's a google translation) it allows to put more hair, or longer hair... If Michael had bald patch, it maybe was a solution maybe it really doesn't move because it's sewed to your own hair, you can keep it for few weeks, wash it... As he kept long hair, the "plait" was not to be seen.
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There is also those "african style" hair fixed on genuine hair. I don't know how to explain but you "braid you hair" and then you sew a piece of other hair (fake or genuine) on the "plait" (sorry for all those words if they are wrong it's a google translation) it allows to put more hair, or longer hair... If Michael had bald patch, it maybe was a solution maybe it really doesn't move because it's sewed to your own hair, you can keep it for few weeks, wash it... As he kept long hair, the "plait" was not to be seen.
It's called braid weaving. :D
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There is also those "african style" hair fixed on genuine hair. I don't know how to explain but you "braid you hair" and then you sew a piece of other hair (fake or genuine) on the "plait" (sorry for all those words if they are wrong it's a google translation) it allows to put more hair, or longer hair... If Michael had bald patch, it maybe was a solution maybe it really doesn't move because it's sewed to your own hair, you can keep it for few weeks, wash it... As he kept long hair, the "plait" was not to be seen.
It's called braid weaving. :D
Thank you ! a 6 lines explanation for only 2 words :lol:
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Karen Faye should know. I'm not just saying that she sometimes answers fan's questions...I dunno, could we ask?