Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: MeandMyShadow on May 01, 2010, 07:28:24 PM
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I just got to thinking about the release of the footage of the old Pepsi commercial. Does anybody recall which paper or website or whatever it was that got the rights to this? Was it US Weekly? Well, whoever it was, next question is, does anybody know who runs it or who it is owned by? Could it be MJ owned? Just curious. I mean, why after all this time would this footage be released and, it was said that MJ was the only other source that had the footage besides Pepsi. I doubt it would be coming from them, do you?
I know this is an old subject, but it just popped into my head. Whenever I start to have bad vibes on it being a hoax, I think back on things like this that point in beLIEvers favor.
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Michael Jackson's 1984 Pepsi accident: shocking new footage | EW.com
Jul 15, 2009 ... US Weekly has posted previously unseen footage of Michael Jackson's accidental burning during a 1984 Pepsi ad shoot
http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/15/mich ... n-footage/ (http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/15/michael-jacksons-1984-pepsi-accident-never-before-seen-footage/)
Exclusive: Pepsi responds to Michael Jackson accident footage ...
Jul 16, 2009 ... Pepsi has responded to yesterday's appearance on the internet of footage of Michael Jackson being burned while filming an ad for the soft ...
http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/16/mich ... e-outrage/ (http://music-mix.ew.com/2009/07/16/michael-jackson-pepsi-accident-footage-outrage/)
Jul 16 2009 06:35 PM ET
Exclusive: Pepsi responds to Michael Jackson accident footage. 'Why would anyone want to share such frightening images?'
by Clark Collis
Categories: An EW Exclusive!, Michael Jackson, News
Mj_l Pepsi has responded to yesterday’s appearance on the internet of footage of Michael Jackson being burned while filming an ad for the soft drink in 1984. Contacted by EW about the material, which was posted by US Weekly, Pepsi spokeswoman Nicole Bradley sent the following statement.
“We don’t know how the footage became available. Twenty-five years later, we’d question why anyone would want to share such frightening images. It was a terrifying event that we’ll never forget.
We were grateful for Michael’s recovery and for the chance to continue working with him on a number of successful projects.
As for Michael as an artist, his music helped us define a generation and, like everyone else, we’re deeply saddened by his passing.”
Bradley also told EW that the company is not currently attempting to get the footage taken down and that Pepsi itself may well not own the rights to the material. “We don’t know where it came from,” she says. “We don’t know what that footage is. It’s 25 years ago. We don’t know who owns it, so we have no recourse as far as I know. I can only tell you what I know. We didn’t put it up and we don’t know where it came from.”
This was Perez Hilton's comment...
Very shady. It looked pretty professional.
Could the family have released it and sold it for a hefty profit?????
Posted: July 16, 2009 at 4:45 pm
http://perezhilton.com/?p=61139 (http://perezhilton.com/?p=61139)
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wow total amazement I would hope that MJ's family would not do such a thing. I am hoping it was MJ himself that did this. :(
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I'm just going to come out and say this: I hav always felt that this was No Accident. I mean this just goes on for minute after minute with the hair on fire in a studio full of people and cameras following him. (It always reminds me of the Mind Control element "Trauma Based" Conditioning...)
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Well, whether it was the family or MJ, I think it was done to let the world know why, if he was addicted to pain medication, why he was and it was a horrifying experience.
I don't understand why he felt he had to wait until the hoax to show it though. Could it be, that he tried before and media wouldn't cooperate with him? Or, as usual, they would twist what was said? I don't see how they could twist something like this, after watching it, but, you know the media and what they are capable of.
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Well, whether it was the family or MJ, I think it was done to let the world know why, if he was addicted to pain medication, why he was and it was a horrifying experience.
I don't understand why he felt he had to wait until the hoax to show it though. Could it be, that he tried before and media wouldn't cooperate with him? Or, as usual, they would twist what was said? I don't see how they could twist something like this, after watching it, but, you know the media and what they are capable of.
I know one thing this footage did. It brought an awareness to how severe his injury really was. So I don't think it was released for money that would be sick. I always heard about the incident but I didn't know it was so bad until I saw that video. I thought the burn on his head was minor but it was actually a major burn. I know that had to be excrutiating pain that he felt. Especially with those chemicals in his hair from his curl. That probably made it even worse. There have been many times that I have burned myself on the forehead with a curling iron and it hurts like crazy. So I think that footage was released so people could see the truth about what actually happened instead of speculating. I can't believe that Pepsi stll released the commercial even after he was burned. It's sad because he didn't want to do the commercial but he felt obligated to his family during the time to do it. Sometimes I wonder if MJ held some anger towards his family for pushing him to do that commercial. I think MJ really loved his family but I think sometimes he probably had to seperate himself from them because I think at one point the brothers were very dependent on him financially even Joe. He wanted to pursue his solo career at 17 but his mom told him no because he needed to be loyal to his brothers. I'm sure he probably felt stressed at times being the biggest star besides Janet in the family. I think that's why I have empathy for him because I can relate to being the one sibling that has to bear the burdens of the family when something goes down. Now I learned that I have to seperate myself at times because I have actually been through my own sickness being stressed out with family issues. Just like MJ I went through anxiety so I know how it feels. It doesn't mean you don't love your family but you have to keep yourself healthy and draw the line. That's alot of pressure trying to please the public and your family. That's why I hope he is still living because I don't think after going through the trials he been through he don't deserve to go out the world like that.
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watch this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbSKgKdNG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbSKgKdNG0)
I think everything have a reason.. :lol:
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wow total amazement I would hope that MJ's family would not do such a thing. I am hoping it was MJ himself that did this. :(
I definately think it would be Michael that did it
What you said msteetee34 wraps it up very well
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watch this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbSKgKdNG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbSKgKdNG0)
I think everything have a reason.. :lol:
Wow, that was a brilliant video. Thanks for sharing! I was rewatching the little clip in this video of the O2 press conference. It panned some of the audience and it just looked...well...staged. Has anyone ever found out whether or not any of the people who were in the audience for this, been on this board? Were there ever any interviews with anyone on the London news at the time? Any newspaper articles with anybody? Or, were they just actors playing a part at the conference?
There are two big stumbling blocks for me in regards to the hoax. One, is the part Katherine is playing in it. Just does not seem like something she would be part of. But if it is a hoax, I'm convinced she has to know he is alive. I don't think MJ would put her through that for real.
The other thing is the police. Would they cooperate in such a thing? I know Neverland was part of Santa Barbara county, not L.A. and I know that the Santa Barbara county did not like MJ being there. But what about L.A.? Did they have something against him as well? Or, were they okay with him? Or does that even matter?
If this was done in regards to protecting his life or his children and he is part of a witness protection program, it doesn't seem like he would give any clues whatsoever about the possibility of being alive.
But, if it was done to get out of debt, boost record sales, give the fans the biggest show on earth, ever, that would make more sense. And a huge reason would also be to mess with the media. And if there is aftermath, well, so be it. The media didn't seem to like him anyway, no?
Here is another question. When he comes back, do you think the fans that really think he is dead, be overwhelmed with joy, or angry that he put them through this?
I want him back no matter what, but didn't know how others might feel.
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I have understood that that material was owned by Michael 8-)
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I heard that he owned the footage and it was released on purpose.
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Thanks for the video. It was an eye-opener. Ben Evanstad's group released Murray's photos. No way! 9284 days--that can't be a coincidence. Does 9,284 days have any numerological significance?
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I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
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I have understood that that material was owned by Michael 8-)
same here..i thought i seen it or heard it somewhere that michael owned the one and only copy of this video..
and that it somehow got released ..
huggs to all
suzz
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Well, whether it was the family or MJ, I think it was done to let the world know why, if he was addicted to pain medication, why he was and it was a horrifying experience.
I don't understand why he felt he had to wait until the hoax to show it though. Could it be, that he tried before and media wouldn't cooperate with him? Or, as usual, they would twist what was said? I don't see how they could twist something like this, after watching it, but, you know the media and what they are capable of.
I think it's for both reasons. Now with the world thinking Michael is dead they are more willing to see things as they really are. Pepsi was obviously very angry by this coming out so you know it didn't come from them. I too think Michael did this and it makes me smile. ...pictures are worth a thousand words... :)
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I believe that some people may indeed have seen it before. However, where do you live? I ask because American tv censors prevented us from seeing the footage in it's entirety when it took place in 1984. The raw images of his burning scalp would not have been so easily shown on American tv where children could catch a glimpse. Today..no problem but back then...problem.
I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
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I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
Yeah, I remember seeing the footage also, right after the accident (if it really was). But it was a front view and wasn't that long. It did not show the back and how he went into a tail spin to put it out. At least not up close like this is.
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I believe that some people may indeed have seen it before. However, where do you live? I ask because American tv censors prevented us from seeing the footage in it's entirety when it took place in 1984. The raw images of his burning scalp would not have been so easily shown on American tv where children could catch a glimpse. Today..no problem but back then...problem.
I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
I live in the U.S. Jeepers, a little melodramitic today? "Raw Images of burning scalp." :roll: Please.
I edited this to add - You make it sound like something straight out of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" :roll:
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I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
Yeah, I remember seeing the footage also, right after the accident (if it really was). But it was a front view and wasn't that long. It did not show the back and how he went into a tail spin to put it out. At least not up close like this is.
Thank you. I knew I wasn't losing my bleeping mind. Thank you. Thank you. You're the first I've run across. I have always said it was the front view too but when I wrote this last night I thought - well maybe I don't remember corrrectly. So that's great.
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Yes they showed a little part of it, but not the entire thing. That came out last year.
Michael owned it, and at first he wanted to show it to the world, to let them see what Pepsi 'did to him'.
But then he decided to keep it silent, so no trial and Pepsi paid him.
After that he didn't want anyone to see it, the real full footage.
I can't imagine that the family (if he really died) ignored his wish and that they have made it public. Not even for money.
So the only conclusion for me is that Michael did it himself, to make the world aware of how he suffered.
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Yes they showed a little part of it, but not the entire thing. That came out last year.
Michael owned it, and at first he wanted to show it to the world, to let them see what Pepsi 'did to him'.
But then he decided to keep it silent, so no trial and Pepsi paid him.
After that he didn't want anyone to see it, the real full footage.
I can't imagine that the family (if he really died) ignored his wish and that they have made it public. Not even for money.
So the only conclusion for me is that Michael did it himself, to make the world aware of how he suffered.
I agree with you 100 percent. That is what helps me when I get feeling down about whether or not he is alive. It does not make sense for the family to leak this footage for money. For one, how would they have gotten ahold of it? Would he have let them know where he kept it? Or, could the estate have found it some how and leaked it? Again, what would be the purpose? The only one who stands to gain would be MJ himself for the reason you stated above ;)
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This brings up something else. Which might need to be put on another thread but it came to me in regards to releasing things like this commercial.
Remember the photos of his leg that looked like it was eaten away with acid or something? The *media* was trying to emply that it was due to having an I.V. stuck in his leg. But as I recall, it had to do with that spider bite he got. They were trying to suggest that it was not a bite. But I've looked at several different pictures of people who have gotten a spider bite and they looked very similar to his leg.
I am referring to the pictures that were shown on the 20/20 episode that Joseph was on. Way back when this all first happened. They talked about the vitiligo and showed pictures of his leg or foot to show the difference in skin color. It was then, that I believe Nancy Grace or some twit like that, that was saying it could have been from an I.V. I don't mean Nancy Grace herself ssaid it, but somebody on her show.
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I was thinking about this thread today for some strange reason and the following came to mind:
9284 equals 11 + 12 = 23 = 5
5 + 5 = 10 = 1
Does this make sense to anyone?
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I'm melodramatic everyday. It comes with the territory in my line of work :lol:
Which media outlet did you see the footage in it's entirety in 1984? I' know people who work for the big three networks and I'd like to do some research on something related to the footage.
I believe that some people may indeed have seen it before. However, where do you live? I ask because American tv censors prevented us from seeing the footage in it's entirety when it took place in 1984. The raw images of his burning scalp would not have been so easily shown on American tv where children could catch a glimpse. Today..no problem but back then...problem.
I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
I live in the U.S. Jeepers, a little melodramitic today? "Raw Images of burning scalp." :roll: Please.
I edited this to add - You make it sound like something straight out of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" :roll:
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Yes, I remember seeing the footage back when this all happened. I also remember people saying what was the big deal ? Myself included thought the same and that he didn't get badly injured. And then jokes about his hair catching fire resulted. But of course no one saw the whole thing and unfortunately we only believed and judged the situation by only what the news/media reported. So again, another lesson we have learned that needs no explaining.
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There must be an important connection between the Pepsi commercial accident and the hoax.
Perhaps the video was released to show the seriousness of what happened so people would later question why the Autopsy report shows no sign of the injury.
watch this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbSKgKdNG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LbSKgKdNG0)
I think everything have a reason.. :lol:
As shown in the video posted by rasyte, the ‘life’ of Michael Jackson is now divided in two.
I used this calculator, http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html (http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duration.html) to find the time between dates. This should be inclusive of the start and end date.
29 August 1958 to 27 January 1984
is 9283 days or 25 years, 4 months and 30 days
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duratio ... 1984&ti=on (http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=29&m1=08&y1=1958&d2=27&m2=01&y2=1984&ti=on)
27 January 1984 to 25 June 2009
is 9282 days but also 25 years, 4 months and 30 days
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/duratio ... 2009&ti=on (http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?d1=27&m1=01&y1=1984&d2=25&m2=06&y2=2009&ti=on)
Why is this event so important?
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I'm melodramatic everyday. It comes with the territory in my line of work :lol:
Which media outlet did you see the footage in it's entirety in 1984? I' know people who work for the big three networks and I'd like to do some research on something related to the footage.
I believe that some people may indeed have seen it before. However, where do you live? I ask because American tv censors prevented us from seeing the footage in it's entirety when it took place in 1984. The raw images of his burning scalp would not have been so easily shown on American tv where children could catch a glimpse. Today..no problem but back then...problem.
I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
I live in the U.S. Jeepers, a little melodramitic today? "Raw Images of burning scalp." :roll: Please.
I edited this to add - You make it sound like something straight out of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" :roll:
@GirlSaturday - Gosh, I don't know now what network it was. That was 26 years ago. I've never been much of a T.V. watcher. It was probably the front view like the other person said they saw too. I don't think I'll ever have recall on which network it was but if I had to guess, I'd say NBC.
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Thanks for the reply. The reason that I questioned whether it was shown is because American tv censors are pretty strict. It's very DrJekyll and Mr Hyde here regarding what can be shown vs what cannot and that was especially true several decades ago. I still laugh at sitcoms from the early 60s that refused to show a married couple (with children) sleeping in the same bed. They always showed them sleeping in twin beds in their bedroom. Duh...how did they manage to have those kids?
I'm melodramatic everyday. It comes with the territory in my line of work :lol:
Which media outlet did you see the footage in it's entirety in 1984? I' know people who work for the big three networks and I'd like to do some research on something related to the footage.
I believe that some people may indeed have seen it before. However, where do you live? I ask because American tv censors prevented us from seeing the footage in it's entirety when it took place in 1984. The raw images of his burning scalp would not have been so easily shown on American tv where children could catch a glimpse. Today..no problem but back then...problem.
I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
I live in the U.S. Jeepers, a little melodramitic today? "Raw Images of burning scalp." :roll: Please.
I edited this to add - You make it sound like something straight out of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" :roll:
@GirlSaturday - Gosh, I don't know now what network it was. That was 26 years ago. I've never been much of a T.V. watcher. It was probably the front view like the other person said they saw too. I don't think I'll ever have recall on which network it was but if I had to guess, I'd say NBC.
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Thanks for the reply. The reason that I questioned whether it was shown is because American tv censors are pretty strict. It's very DrJekyll and Mr Hyde here regarding what can be shown vs what cannot and that was especially true several decades ago. I still laugh at sitcoms from the early 60s that refused to show a married couple (with children) sleeping in the same bed. They always showed them sleeping in twin beds in their bedroom. Duh...how did they manage to have those kids?
I'm melodramatic everyday. It comes with the territory in my line of work :lol:
Which media outlet did you see the footage in it's entirety in 1984? I' know people who work for the big three networks and I'd like to do some research on something related to the footage.
I believe that some people may indeed have seen it before. However, where do you live? I ask because American tv censors prevented us from seeing the footage in it's entirety when it took place in 1984. The raw images of his burning scalp would not have been so easily shown on American tv where children could catch a glimpse. Today..no problem but back then...problem.
I have said a million times I have seen that footage and I'm not talking about for the first time last year. I'm not sure if I saw the front or back view but I know I saw it and it wasn't all that long after the accident.Doesn't anyone beside me remember that? The point is I can't figure out why they keep saying it just came out last year? I saw it.
I live in the U.S. Jeepers, a little melodramitic today? "Raw Images of burning scalp." :roll: Please.
I edited this to add - You make it sound like something straight out of "Raiders of the Lost Ark" :roll:
@GirlSaturday - Gosh, I don't know now what network it was. That was 26 years ago. I've never been much of a T.V. watcher. It was probably the front view like the other person said they saw too. I don't think I'll ever have recall on which network it was but if I had to guess, I'd say NBC.
It was shown. I didn't imagine it. When that came out last year and they were saying it had just been released, I was ....huh?