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Hoax Theories => The Double Theory => Topic started by: speeddemon on April 24, 2010, 02:00:36 PM

Title: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 24, 2010, 02:00:36 PM
hi everyone,

i observed this by pure coincidence.

the first pic shows mj in the mid 80s. look at the teeth they are veenered.


look at mj from the late 70s and mid 90s. they have the exact same teeth and are not veneered.

you don't swap teeth styles, you veneer and stick with it.

the 80s mj must be someone else.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
But in the first pic the lips are blocking them...
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 24, 2010, 02:23:24 PM
the teeth are totally different regardless of lips
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 02:25:25 PM
And how you see it?
How you see the canine tip and the rest of the shapes?
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: DancingTheDream on April 24, 2010, 02:36:38 PM
Same teeth, same MJ

Compare Thriller MJ to O2 MJ..  exactly the same.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 24, 2010, 03:12:22 PM
yes that is mj, but that is not my point.

the guy in my first pic has different teeth (bad era).

we now have pics of mj from the end of 70s, thriller era, history era and someone with veenered teeth in the bad era.

i just think this is really weird.

if you look at the autopsy report it says that the teeth are veenered. this would match the person found in my bad era photo.

don't forget that the funeral and memorial pics were all bad era photos.

perhaps there really was a doppelganger and this person died in june 2009.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 03:17:38 PM
Quote from: "speeddemon"
the guy in my first pic has different teeth (bad era).

That´s what I can´t see (because I can´t see the teeth...)
And if I´m not wrong that´s Dangerous era... that long hair
Must be end of 80´s the sooner.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 03:34:10 PM
This is the same day BMI Award Reception, on May 8, 1990 in Los Angeles.

(http://mjbaltic.com/Awards/Awards_1990_4.jpg)

That´s MJ.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: jinane on April 24, 2010, 04:12:25 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This is the same day BMI Award Reception, on May 8, 1990 in Los Angeles.

(http://mjbaltic.com/Awards/Awards_1990_4.jpg)

That´s MJ.
now i can see the teeth & they are the same teeth in all pics which means that it's all MJ
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loyalfan on April 24, 2010, 04:16:51 PM
WE NEED AN EXPERT DENTIST HERE GUYS..........XXX
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 04:21:09 PM
An non expert person with eyes will do  :lol:
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: the arabian nights on April 24, 2010, 04:22:55 PM
oh no, not this, not the teeth,

when we have finished what will there be left

please guys stop this, its mike

if you dont know that by now ( and i am not a fan) please dont do this any more

you will tear up the dream, you are tearing up the reality that is/was mj

does this help with the hoax - can you really honestly say it does

if it does i will walk away - but i dont see that it does

what have we become :cry:

[i expect to be bashed]
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 04:23:54 PM
Hugs arabian!
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on April 24, 2010, 04:27:31 PM
LOOK LIKE THE SAME TEETH TO ME.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loveratheart4mj on April 24, 2010, 04:56:39 PM
Quote from: "jinane"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This is the same day BMI Award Reception, on May 8, 1990 in Los Angeles.

(http://mjbaltic.com/Awards/Awards_1990_4.jpg)

That´s MJ.
now i can see the teeth & they are the same teeth in all pics which means that it's all MJ


DOES ANYONE ELSE GET SO SICK OF THIS. THEY ARE ALL MJ. WHY DOES PEOPLE KEEP TRYIN TO TEAR HIM APART. WE ALL CHANGE OFF AND ON. SOMEONE FAMOUS HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY LOTS MORE OFTEN DUE TO THE MONEY THEY HAVE. HELL I WOULD CHANGE MY TEETH, MY HAIR, GET LIPO, .........PLEASE YALL STOP TEARING HIM APART. i AGREE WITH THE ABOVE POSTER. THEY ARE ALL MJ! :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: DancingTheDream on April 24, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
I agree. Its all the same MJ.. the same man we love.

I post here to try and make people see its the same man.

Look..  BAD era.. same teeth!!
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: scorpionchik on April 24, 2010, 05:32:26 PM
Same MJ. He might got veneer on his teeth later or implants. Not a big deal. BUT WHAT IS STILL QUESTION FOR ME is that the AUTOPCY REPORT DOES NOT DESCRIBE DECEASED's TEETH to MAKE ME BELIEVE IT IS MICHAEL.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loma on April 24, 2010, 05:48:59 PM
Frankly, I believe there is 1 MJ.
 :( I don't see how this is important anyways.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: jinane on April 24, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
Quote from: "jinane"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This is the same day BMI Award Reception, on May 8, 1990 in Los Angeles.

(http://mjbaltic.com/Awards/Awards_1990_4.jpg)

That´s MJ.
now i can see the teeth & they are the same teeth in all pics which means that it's all MJ


DOES ANYONE ELSE GET SO SICK OF THIS. THEY ARE ALL MJ. WHY DOES PEOPLE KEEP TRYIN TO TEAR HIM APART. WE ALL CHANGE OFF AND ON. SOMEONE FAMOUS HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY LOTS MORE OFTEN DUE TO THE MONEY THEY HAVE. HELL I WOULD CHANGE MY TEETH, MY HAIR, GET LIPO, .........PLEASE YALL STOP TEARING HIM APART. i AGREE WITH THE ABOVE POSTER. THEY ARE ALL MJ! :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:
i totally agree with you i really can't take it anymore & it's leading no where!!! so why continue doing this to Michael i have come across so many threads about doubles & they asuming things without facts & to fans who have known MJ for so many years it hurts & if Michael come accross those videos or posts i think it's gonna hurt him they have gone so far with this some are even making fun of him i mean he's 51 years old so he will certainly change even the gain & lost of weight makes you change
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 24, 2010, 06:52:03 PM
I don´t know wht he would think... I know that I think this is very boring and pointless
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: jinane on April 24, 2010, 07:09:55 PM
totally agree with you it proves nothing & i think we have to focus on important things HIS MESSAGE
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: mjkate on April 24, 2010, 07:40:50 PM
peace and love everyone! I think every little thread and discussion has merit..I think MJ would like to see how hard we are trying to figure this out and there are clues in pretty much every thread that it posted. It's a little like forensics....we're all trying hard to piece this puzzle together. I had always wondered about the 2 MJ's thing so this thread can serve to help us figure out once and for all if we personally think there is one or 2. It's all about discounting the theories until we are down to one. Use this thread to help keep the 2 mj theory alive OR to take it off your list. Thank you to everyone who takes the time to post the pictures and the know how to do so...hugs
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: geminigurl on April 24, 2010, 07:42:49 PM
I agree with the arabian nights but on the  plus side, I love seeing these pictures of Michael's megawatt smile.  How can he be so beautiful in all eras???  It must come from within.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 24, 2010, 07:44:56 PM
Welcome to the rabbithole! Need a rock to hide? We have some room left.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: jessicakthx on April 24, 2010, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I agree. Its all the same MJ.. the same man we love.

I post here to try and make people see its the same man.

Look..  BAD era.. same teeth!!

That man has got some BEAUTIFUL chompers  :D
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loma on April 24, 2010, 08:40:04 PM
Quote from: "jessicakthx"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I agree. Its all the same MJ.. the same man we love.
I post here to try and make people see its the same man.
Look..  BAD era.. same teeth!!
That man has got some BEAUTIFUL chompers  :D
Awww yeahhh...
*licks braces*
What I would give..  8-)
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: simalves on April 24, 2010, 09:14:16 PM
We now know that if Mike had to read this thread he would cry. He hated being dissected and it must tear him up to read these threads.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: paula-c on April 24, 2010, 10:28:55 PM
I still think that the rate of 02 is not Michael, in fact I think Michael is the one given behind the curtain, and it is not speech, and I have my doubts about this conference, I think so ..... unreal 8-)
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: MYLOVELYONE on April 24, 2010, 10:59:57 PM
whatever nobody looks exactly the same in every picture.. angles,light, expresions
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loma on April 24, 2010, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: "MYLOVELYONE"
whatever nobody looks exactly the same in every picture.. angles,light, expresions
:ugeek: Exactly.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: msteetee34 on April 25, 2010, 01:00:14 AM
I think the way someone smile can make their teeth appear different as well.  Sometimes he smiles really big and then all his teeth show.  Other times his smile is not so big.  I must admit I have kinda question his teeth at times too because it seem like during the bad era his teeth were like super straight.  It's obvious by the photos that he had them fixed up from the 70's but I think he always had a great smile.  I heard he was really into taking care of his teeth.  He and his sister Janet have the biggest smiles.  I think too as you get older the shape of your teeth can change too.  Since we put a lot of wear and tear on our teeth by eating.  I notice when MJ smiles big his bottom lip is a little off to the side.  If you look a the pic of him in the 80's with the Thriller jacket you'll see what I'm talking about.  That's how I tell it's him as well.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: Datroot on April 25, 2010, 05:52:54 AM
MJ has always had beautiful teeth so why would he need veneers?
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: mykidsmum on April 25, 2010, 08:22:12 AM
Quote from: "Datroot"
MJ has always had beautiful teeth so why would he need veneers?
He always had a beautiful nose and chin and hair...why did he need plastic surgery and a wig...because he wanted them?

why?  we dunno.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: MeandMyShadow on April 25, 2010, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
oh no, not this, not the teeth,

when we have finished what will there be left

please guys stop this, its mike

if you dont know that by now ( and i am not a fan) please dont do this any more

you will tear up the dream, you are tearing up the reality that is/was mj

does this help with the hoax - can you really honestly say it does

if it does i will walk away - but i dont see that it does

what have we become :cry:

[i expect to be bashed]


Just curious about something.  If you are not a fan, then why are you on here?  Not saying you have to be or anything, just curious is all.  Are you just searching for the truth as to what really happened, regardless of whether it be MJ or somebody else?
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: Datroot on April 25, 2010, 11:05:19 AM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Quote from: "Datroot"
MJ has always had beautiful teeth so why would he need veneers?
He always had a beautiful nose and chin and hair...why did he need plastic surgery and a wig...because he wanted them?

why?  we dunno.

Actually, they don't look like veneers to me, although in some pics his teeth do look different.  I actually don't think they look as good as they did in the BAD pics but maybe that's just to do with age.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: XspeechlessX on April 25, 2010, 12:53:19 PM
God almighty!
Theyre all Mike!


ahhhhhh..... as much as i love this forum sometimes it drives me to distraction!!

L.O.V.E as always though. x
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: Datroot on April 25, 2010, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
God almighty!
Theyre all Mike!


ahhhhhh..... as much as i love this forum sometimes it drives me to distraction!!

L.O.V.E as always though. x


Aaah but you don't know for sure do you - neither do I, but just saying what I think.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: foreveryoung on April 25, 2010, 12:57:45 PM
Im glad someone else has bought up the tooth thing. I bought it up a long time ago on the old board and had the same response from people! - nope same teeeth - same mj etc etc.... I have loads of pictures of mikes teeth here and have noticed time and time again there are discrepancies with the teeth. To those who ask how it is relevent to the hoax.... I believe it is.... if we can prove 2 or more MJ's existed then its part of the hoax... Why bash people when you dont agree with what they are saying? We aint all gonna have the same theories, and different people see things in different ways. But just because you might not agreee with what a poster is seeing, it shouldnt be dismissed.... after all - we are all here for the investigation into MJ's supposed death and what each of us decides to contribute should be taken on board. If people dont agree accept what one persons believes to be true, then ignore the post, move on and read summin else I say! Sorry, i felt that had to be said... I have had two posts mocked today and it does annoy me, and if anything makes you lose confidence to post on the board for fear of it happening time and time again.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: Datroot on April 25, 2010, 01:00:41 PM
Quote from: "foreveryoung"
Im glad someone else has bought up the tooth thing. I bought it up a long time ago on the old board and had the same response from people! - nope same teeeth - same mj etc etc.... I have loads of pictures of mikes teeth here and have noticed time and time again there are discrepancies with the teeth. To those who ask how it is relevent to the hoax.... I believe it is.... if we can prove 2 or more MJ's existed then its part of the hoax... Why bash people when you dont agree with what they are saying? We aint all gonna have the same theories, and different people see things in different ways. But just because you might not agreee with what a poster is seeing, it shouldnt be dismissed.... after all - we are all here for the investigation into MJ's supposed death and what each of us decides to contribute should be taken on board. If people dont agree accept what one persons believes to be true, then ignore the post, move on and read summin else I say! Sorry, i felt that had to be said... I have had two posts mocked today and it does annoy me, and if anything makes you lose confidence to post on the board for fear of it happening time and time again.

Thank you and amen to this.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loyalfan on April 25, 2010, 02:18:52 PM
MAYBE ITS TIME TO WRAP THIS FORUM UP....WE ARE GETTING RIDICULOUS................
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: the arabian nights on April 25, 2010, 02:32:23 PM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
MAYBE ITS TIME TO WRAP THIS FORUM UP....WE ARE GETTING RIDICULOUS................

no, but just certain things
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 02:42:40 PM
if you don't like the topic, don't read the thread.

i have given my reasons for opening this thread and am hoping for some discussion, not people saying the thread is wacky.

as i can see from some of the thread replies there are people that have also observed discrepancies in the teeth.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 25, 2010, 03:16:16 PM
Quote from: "speeddemon"
if you don't like the topic, don't read the thread.

i have given my reasons for opening this thread and am hoping for some discussion, not people saying the thread is wacky.

as i can see from some of the thread replies there are people that have also observed discrepancies in the teeth.


Exactly. If you don't want to discuss this, stay away from this kind of threads.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 03:18:59 PM
Or stay and give opinions... why not?
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 03:27:19 PM
you are welcome to disagree and provide evidence.

some people just post stuff like: what a disgusting thread.disrespectful towards michael... yada yada yada....

there is a core of people in here that believe in a doppelganger theory and teeth analysis is one form of objective proof.

i have not heard a single person explaining to me why the mj in the bad era pic has veneered teeth, whilst there are pics with him before and after being without them.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 03:36:04 PM
speeddemon there are people really really tired about the recurrent double thing that goes beyond tens of threads that even didn´t start being so. I guess in the beginning they tried to give arguments and a moment came when they were done. I think it´s just that... but you can also skip it if you like...
Just gessing.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 03:50:50 PM
point taken.  

i just thought this might be a different angle :-)
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: awesome1 on April 25, 2010, 03:55:49 PM
Its MJ the one and only.... End of Story .... :P
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: loma on April 25, 2010, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: "awesome1"
Its MJ the one and only.... End of Story .... :P
(http://forum.thescubasite.com/mad/mad0228.gif)
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: this1crazygirl on April 25, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
the only thing important to me about the teeth analysis is that in the AR report, the teeth ID are INCONCLUSIVE!! :ugeek:
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 25, 2010, 04:33:49 PM
Quote from: "jinane"
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
Quote from: "jinane"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This is the same day BMI Award Reception, on May 8, 1990 in Los Angeles.

(http://mjbaltic.com/Awards/Awards_1990_4.jpg)

That´s MJ.
now i can see the teeth & they are the same teeth in all pics which means that it's all MJ


DOES ANYONE ELSE GET SO SICK OF THIS. THEY ARE ALL MJ. WHY DOES PEOPLE KEEP TRYIN TO TEAR HIM APART. WE ALL CHANGE OFF AND ON. SOMEONE FAMOUS HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY LOTS MORE OFTEN DUE TO THE MONEY THEY HAVE. HELL I WOULD CHANGE MY TEETH, MY HAIR, GET LIPO, .........PLEASE YALL STOP TEARING HIM APART. i AGREE WITH THE ABOVE POSTER. THEY ARE ALL MJ! :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :!:
i totally agree with you i really can't take it anymore & it's leading no where!!! so why continue doing this to Michael i have come across so many threads about doubles & they asuming things without facts & to fans who have known MJ for so many years it hurts & if Michael come accross those videos or posts i think it's gonna hurt him they have gone so far with this some are even making fun of him i mean he's 51 years old so he will certainly change even the gain & lost of weight makes you change
100% agreed , i do believe hecould have used doubles in his later years but from birth to the bad era it was all mj im sorry no one could imitate him that perfectly, sorry but i believe it was all mj in his early years:) and i dont believe there are two mj's that far fetched and its quite disturbing.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 04:40:37 PM
it's hard to make out a single tooth from that pic. it's not close enough.
but from a quick glance the teeth seem to be quite big and veneered, the same as those depicted in my earlier pic, which is logical as the pics are from the same day.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: Butterfly J on April 25, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
oh no, not this, not the teeth,

when we have finished what will there be left

please guys stop this, its mike

if you dont know that by now ( and i am not a fan) please dont do this any more

you will tear up the dream, you are tearing up the reality that is/was mj

does this help with the hoax - can you really honestly say it does

if it does i will walk away - but i dont see that it does

what have we become :cry:

[i expect to be bashed]

I´m with you!
God bless you!!!
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
thanks for joining the "trolling train"
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: "speeddemon"
it's hard to make out a single tooth from that pic. it's not close enough.
but from a quick glance the teeth seem to be quite big and veneered, the same as those depicted in my earlier pic, which is logical as the pics are from the same day.

Speeddemon, I also brought this picture, it´s closer, and from the same day.
What I say from the beginning (apart from him being him) is that you used a pic to make your statement, where the theeth wouldn´t be seen in their recognizable side, that was blocked by lips.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 05:02:30 PM
thanks for that pic. it's a tough call. but don't you think the teeth in my pic are much bigger. they are also much wider more like veenered fake teeth.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: somekindofsign on April 25, 2010, 05:12:38 PM
But that´s the same day  :?
The lips blocking can do as visual effect that occurs when you don´t see a line ending...
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 05:22:18 PM
i understand what you are saying, but it looks so different.

i guess we will not get any further with this, due to the lack of further photos or videos.
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 25, 2010, 05:50:44 PM
On this one I have to disagree, same guy:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/sameguy.jpg)

Interesting part is, that even though the pics are from two completely different angles, I can still match them perfectly...
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: speeddemon on April 25, 2010, 05:56:46 PM
thanks honey,

please lock the thread, :-)
Title: Re: teeth analysis points to there being 2 mjs
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 25, 2010, 06:06:28 PM
Quote from: "speeddemon"
thanks honey,

please lock the thread, :-)

Sure, no problem.
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