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Hoax Theories => The Double Theory => Topic started by: FinlanDiana on April 19, 2010, 09:59:58 AM

Title: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: FinlanDiana on April 19, 2010, 09:59:58 AM
Hello dear friends! Travis Payne, the question... if anybody has ever been a feeling that Travis is MJ? or black-MJ?
Multiple images to be deemed Travis recalls MJ... especially in a smile... I wonder if Travis, a black wig, how much of the same player with MJ?
or whether Travis also visited plastic surgery? Travis, it seems that more and more recalls MJ. or I'm imagining it? can be just a coincidence that Travis is so similar, or a mere illusion.

Facebook picture Travis Payne promos: note smile!  :shock:
Link:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Travis-Pa ... 6987792525 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Travis-Payne/196987792525?ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=4896810&id=196987792525)


but I have not compared the hands or ears ... but how Travis is just a WHITE wrist / hand, in this picture  :shock:  :shock:
Link:

http://soulofamerica.com/cgi-bin/slidev ... 0&slide=27 (http://soulofamerica.com/cgi-bin/slideviewer.cgi?list=la-Michael-Jackson&dir=&config=&design=soahome&refresh=&scale=0&slide=27)


Chost film Travis was younger but somehow look different ... sections 6.54 & 7.00
Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8fwQ5bdiQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8fwQ5bdiQ)


Wikipedia does not tell much about Travis...
and Travis could somehow reminds Randy Jackson... and Travis is the same size as the white-MJ...

imagine if MJ would have been in front of everyone all the time :)

please let me know, what you think?
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Shamone Jackson on April 19, 2010, 10:31:08 AM
I don't think so, but then anything is possible with Michael Jackson.  :)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: brilliantinsh on April 19, 2010, 11:31:13 AM
Quote from: "FinlanDiana"
if anybody has ever been a feeling that Travis is MJ? or black-MJ?
or whether Travis also visited plastic surgery? Travis, it seems that more and more recalls MJ. or I'm imagining it? can be just a coincidence that Travis is so similar, or a mere illusion
please let me know, what you think?

Sorry, but I just cannot agree. Don't judge by appearance, but by the behaviour. Look at this TP interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h3KO-ByHaQ
IMO nothing like Michael..
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JENNYAPPLEHEAD on April 19, 2010, 11:59:59 AM
I can tell you that Travis is not MJ...I have been very close to Travis, talked to him and there is no way he is Michael. My facebook has some pics of me with Travsis and my youtube has video...sorry not Michael...!  :D
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 19, 2010, 12:47:12 PM
I don't want to offend anyone, but aren't we going a little too far?

I still don't buy the double theory, but since there's not much spectaculair news to investigate, the 'theories' are getting weirder and weirder...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 19, 2010, 01:08:44 PM
Nothing weird about about this one...just wait...pics on the way...  ;)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2010, 01:09:45 PM
Interesting, we compared Travis and Mike already a few weeks ago but because we normally get bashed as hell, we didn't want to post it. But hey, since someone else brings it up, I guess it's ok to post the morphs...


Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)


And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)


Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match) but I'll let you decide...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 19, 2010, 01:11:10 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Interesting, we compared Travis and Mike already a few weeks ago but because we normally get bashed as hell, we didn't want to post it. But hey, since someone else brings it up, I guess it's ok to post the morphs...

Exactly, let's go for it!  :lol:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
BTW, looks like TII premiere Travis has a cap on his head... That or they could be brothers. Travis is the ONLY one IMO that has the moves.

Oh and guys....don't take it all so serious. Even if it's not true, just have a laugh and move on. You might get a headache.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: suomursu on April 19, 2010, 01:18:12 PM
Well i think his smile is kind of creepy and too wide... Reminds me more of Alexander Stubb than Michael Jackson :D But then again a good disguise makes you look alot different. Ahh I don't know. Souza's pictures were interesting though.

Off topic, FinlanDiana, You're finnish, right? Pidän nimestäsi. Kiva kun täällä alkaa näkyä enemmän ja enemmän suomalaisia. Nyt varmaan jo ainakin viisi!
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Puff on April 19, 2010, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match) but I'll let you decide...

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  I love it! :lol:  :lol:

P.S
This will kill me! I know that!
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 19, 2010, 01:33:20 PM
Well hey, think about this: Travis is the ONLY one who can dance exactly like Mike...  I have seen fantastic dancers, but compared to Mike...NO...no one gets close...except Travis, he gets eery close.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: mumof3 on April 19, 2010, 01:34:50 PM
I dont think so  i am not sure what to think of him he seems bossy and big headed to me
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: FinlanDiana on April 19, 2010, 01:38:31 PM
Thank you for your answers!  :)  and especially Mo & Souza pictures, I can only say as OMG!  :shock:

and suomursu! yes I am also Finnish  ;)
Moi  ;)  to Finnish!  ;)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2010, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
he seems bossy and big headed to me
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 19, 2010, 01:47:08 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mumof3"
he seems bossy and big headed to me
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Who knows....maybe the man we never knew...?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 19, 2010, 02:00:44 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Well hey, think about this: Travis is the ONLY one who can dance exactly like Mike...  I have seen fantastic dancers, but compared to Mike...NO...no one gets close...except Travis, he gets eery close.

That's exactly what I was thinking! He's a very good dancer. And he's always leading the dancers what he makes tv appearances and what not... and the whole "Still the King" thing..with Travis! That would be something else...

At this point, I don't think ANY possibility is crazy!
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Loes on April 19, 2010, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Oh and guys....don't take it all so serious. Even if it's not true, just have a laugh and move on. You might get a headache.[/color]

Oké, I laugh and move on ....  :mrgreen:  ;)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: somekindofsign on April 19, 2010, 02:47:41 PM
Black MJ?
Wasn´t MJ black?
I thought that the black MJ is MJ... :?

About the rest... no way. Completely different style.
I see people making morphings as a proof of looking alike.
That´s a wrong starting point, precisely a morphing makes the steps to transform one into another.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 19, 2010, 02:54:46 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I see people making morphings as a proof of looking alike.
That´s a wrong starting point, precisely a morphing makes the steps to transform one into another.

Hold a second here.  We never alter the proportions of photos when we resize them, we always constrain proportions to ensure both the ratio AND perspective of the image remain relative to that of the original image.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2010, 02:56:38 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I see people making morphings as a proof of looking alike.
That´s a wrong starting point, precisely a morphing makes the steps to transform one into another.

Hold a second here.  We never alter the proportions of photos when we resize them, we always constrain proportions to ensure both the ratio AND perspective of the image remain relative to that of the original image.

And in that case Travis should have matched Travis, or am I misunderstanding something here?
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: GirlSaturday on April 19, 2010, 03:56:28 PM
It's a wide stretch but I admittedly love it when people are willing to walk to the edge and think outside of the  proverbial box. MJ posing as TP in disguise would be indeed be a classic case of hiding in plain sight. :lol:  

 The investigstion is like an onion . Unless we're willing to peel back the layers, we may not uncover anything. An onion may cause us eye irritation and tears but it certainly is a key ingredient in the meal that we are preparing.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on April 19, 2010, 05:16:35 PM
Does Travis have a double too?????  :shock:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



 :roll:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Jacksonology on April 19, 2010, 05:29:05 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mumof3"
he seems bossy and big headed to me
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Who knows....maybe the man we never knew...?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
:lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: mjfansince4 on April 19, 2010, 05:54:47 PM
i dont know but...here's food for thought:

remember the tribute performance janet sang "scream?" (i think it was the VMAS) and we've all heard the video with her performance without the music....janet's voice is NOT hers. i'll go as far as to say it's michaels. anyway....guess who was in that performance with her....travis!

and if you guys are saying that travis at the TII premiere was michael, i'm going to have to disagree. remember he gave us the slip up..."i called kenny and he said he just talked to michael...'s doctor..."


but i do believe michael has been in front of our face this entire time. it just sounds like what the typical prankster mike would do.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: msteetee34 on April 20, 2010, 01:24:19 AM
I don't see it sorry.  Travis Payne don't look nothing like him to me.  It's possible that he could have stepped in for MJ as a stand in on a video or rehearsals.  Plus Travis Payne is pretty buffed up man.  I think I recall him wearing a tank top and he's cut.  Now if people think he favor MJ I don't undersatnd why they don't see it with Omer who looks exactly like Michael and he dance just like him.  Let's not forget too that MJ was still a black man despite the change in his skin tone so there is no other black MJ in my opinion.  Never will be.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: loma on April 20, 2010, 01:41:07 AM
(http://serve.mysmiley.net/happy/happy0045.gif)
*composes self*
I'm not sure about this. Travis is the wrong guy in so many ways.
But it would be pretty funny if he was dark MJ.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: whisper on April 20, 2010, 01:48:57 AM
Well at least he can dance Lol !
No but really  :lol: I don't think he's black MJ ..... I've seen another pic from the premier and his head looks the same  :lol:  Maybe b/c he was smiling ...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: loma on April 20, 2010, 01:52:33 AM
Yeah, my face does that too when I smile; It get's a lot wider because of my chipmunk cheeks.  :D
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 20, 2010, 09:10:38 AM
Quote from: "msteetee34"
I don't see it sorry.  Travis Payne don't look nothing like him to me.  It's possible that he could have stepped in for MJ as a stand in on a video or rehearsals.  Plus Travis Payne is pretty buffed up man.  I think I recall him wearing a tank top and he's cut.  Now if people think he favor MJ I don't undersatnd why they don't see it with Omer who looks exactly like Michael and he dance just like him.  Let's not forget too that MJ was still a black man despite the change in his skin tone so there is no other black MJ in my opinion.  Never will be.


Sorry, but the disguised as Travis/not disguised as Travis aside...IMO Travis looks way more like Mike than Omer. And his moves are more like Mike's as well.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: NYMoonwalker on April 20, 2010, 09:34:29 AM
IMO, Travis doesn't look anything like Mike. Not his body or his face shape. You can't compare him to that pic of really young Michael--Mike changed a lot since then. He moves really really well though. VERY close to how Michael does, but even then I can spot the differences. Also, Travis is very buff. In the Blue Ray Live features that come with the Blue Ray This Is It disc, there is a small performance of Jam by just Travis. He does a fantastic job! - but he's clearly not MJ. What I have thought though from the beginning is that they would use him to stand in for Michael in events and eventually, in a continuation of the This Is It concerts. He worked with Michael on all the moves and is the closest to the real thing they have. So why wouldn't they? Personally, I hate that thought. If Michael can't perform those shows, then they shouldn't take place at all. If they think he's dead, then I have no idea how they'd be able to go through with it. That would break my heart. So I'm hoping that never happens. They'll start calling Travis the new Michael Jackson :rolls:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 20, 2010, 10:21:55 AM
I think it's important to keep in mind that it's possible for Michael to have had more than one disguise these past 10 months. For example, if he was disguised as Travis, that doesn't necessarily mean everytime we've seen Travis, it's been MJ. I don't think that at all. Think about all the possible disguises we've discovered. He could have been them all at one point.

And this has got me thinking... if any of these really are his disguises, it makes sense on his choice of people to pretend to be. None of them are "super famous" to the point where we would have their mannerisms memorized. They are people we just "know of" for the most part. BUT - Michael knows all of them really well: Travis Payne, DAVE DAVE, his nephew (at the grammy's, can't think of his name right now)...
These are all people who Michael was close with, so they are the most likely people for him to be able to "become" because he knows their mannerisms and voices so well.

Just some thoughts...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 20, 2010, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: "FinlanDiana"
Hello dear friends! Travis Payne, the question... if anybody has ever been a feeling that Travis is MJ? or black-MJ?
Multiple images to be deemed Travis recalls MJ... especially in a smile... I wonder if Travis, a black wig, how much of the same player with MJ?
or whether Travis also visited plastic surgery? Travis, it seems that more and more recalls MJ. or I'm imagining it? can be just a coincidence that Travis is so similar, or a mere illusion.

Facebook picture Travis Payne promos: note smile!  :shock:
Link:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Travis-Pa ... 6987792525 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Travis-Payne/196987792525?ref=ts#!/photo.php?pid=4896810&id=196987792525)


but I have not compared the hands or ears ... but how Travis is just a WHITE wrist / hand, in this picture  :shock:  :shock:
Link:

http://soulofamerica.com/cgi-bin/slidev ... 0&slide=27 (http://soulofamerica.com/cgi-bin/slideviewer.cgi?list=la-Michael-Jackson&dir=&config=&design=soahome&refresh=&scale=0&slide=27)


Chost film Travis was younger but somehow look different ... sections 6.54 & 7.00
Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8fwQ5bdiQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ8fwQ5bdiQ)


Wikipedia does not tell much about Travis...
and Travis could somehow reminds Randy Jackson... and Travis is the same size as the white-MJ...

imagine if MJ would have been in front of everyone all the time :)

please let me know, what you think?
there was a picture floating around of Michael in this is beside right beside travis lol, so imo no, travis is not Michael, i think people are taking this stuff way to seriously, yes Michael likes to disguise himself, but guys Michael ISNT GOING TO DISGUISE HIMSELF AS EVERY DANG PERSON IN THE WORLD. lol he can't be disguising himself as everyone, the funniest one so far was sandra bullock. Oh gosh.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 20, 2010, 11:22:39 AM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
there was a picture floating around of Michael in this is beside right beside travis lol, so imo no, travis is not Michael, i think people are taking this stuff way to seriously, yes Michael likes to disguise himself, but guys Michael ISNT GOING TO DISGUISE HIMSELF AS EVERY DANG PERSON IN THE WORLD. lol he can't be disguising himself as everyone, the funniest one so far was sandra bullock. Oh gosh.

Then how do you explain this:

Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)

And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)

Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match).
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: sunrise on April 20, 2010, 11:34:50 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
there was a picture floating around of Michael in this is beside right beside travis lol, so imo no, travis is not Michael, i think people are taking this stuff way to seriously, yes Michael likes to disguise himself, but guys Michael ISNT GOING TO DISGUISE HIMSELF AS EVERY DANG PERSON IN THE WORLD. lol he can't be disguising himself as everyone, the funniest one so far was sandra bullock. Oh gosh.

Then how do you explain this:

Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)

And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)

Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match).

so that`s MJ??  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
[youtube:47t54yed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpii2uuyfE8[/youtube:47t54yed]
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 20, 2010, 12:19:11 PM
Quote from: "sunrise"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
there was a picture floating around of Michael in this is beside right beside travis lol, so imo no, travis is not Michael, i think people are taking this stuff way to seriously, yes Michael likes to disguise himself, but guys Michael ISNT GOING TO DISGUISE HIMSELF AS EVERY DANG PERSON IN THE WORLD. lol he can't be disguising himself as everyone, the funniest one so far was sandra bullock. Oh gosh.

Then how do you explain this:

Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)

And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)

Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match).

so that`s MJ??  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
[youtube:29io6rc4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpii2uuyfE8[/youtube:29io6rc4]

We are not saying that, we say it's a possibility. You'd be surprised as to what is possible these days. BTW, I never saw Travis bite his bottom lip in an interview like he does in the video you posted...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: sunrise on April 20, 2010, 12:45:46 PM
@ souza

try this picture.. I think it will fit perfectly.. :)
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Premiere+Sony+Pictures+Arrivals+FZxc3ARnumDl.jpg)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 20, 2010, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
there was a picture floating around of Michael in this is beside right beside travis lol, so imo no, travis is not Michael, i think people are taking this stuff way to seriously, yes Michael likes to disguise himself, but guys Michael ISNT GOING TO DISGUISE HIMSELF AS EVERY DANG PERSON IN THE WORLD. lol he can't be disguising himself as everyone, the funniest one so far was sandra bullock. Oh gosh.

Then how do you explain this:

Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)

And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)

Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match).
lol. your using a very old picture of michael, and morphing does that but cmon this is getting to ridiculous, Michael is not walking around disguised as every single person like this is getting way to far fetched to the point where its actually  funny. yes i believe he has disguised himself as certain people like dave dave but now sandra bullock and travis payne? these assumptions are getting to ridiculous. he isnt disguising himself as every damn person. Who's next? pretty soon hes gunna be kenny ortega too.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: brilliantinsh on April 20, 2010, 01:00:57 PM
You see what you want to see  :lol:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: FinlanDiana on April 20, 2010, 01:11:47 PM
What about Travis & MJ hands? I do not know those lines on the hand but the thumb? little finger?

Link Travis facebook picture "This is it Premiere" photo showing the palm:
(for some reason I can not get a direct link uploaded image of palm)

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 ... 6987792525 (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=163584&id=196987792525#!/album.php?aid=163584&id=196987792525)

Link: MJ as a young hand:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/thriller/tour/various/003.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/thriller/tour/various/003.jpg)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 20, 2010, 01:26:29 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
yes i believe he has disguised himself as certain people like dave dave but now sandra bullock and travis payne?

Sandra Bullock...?  Did I miss something here..?  Can you link me to the thread in which is said that Mike disguised himself as Sandra Bullock please?  Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 20, 2010, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
yes i believe he has disguised himself as certain people like dave dave but now sandra bullock and travis payne?

Sandra Bullock...?  Did I miss something here..?  Can you link me to the thread in which is said that Mike disguised himself as Sandra Bullock please?  Thanks in advance, I appreciate it!
i dont remember what thread it was but someone posted a tmz article about sandra bullock being around the area where michael lived and everyone started replying saying it could be mj in disguise as sandra i was like oh come on now its her.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 20, 2010, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
lol. your using a very old picture of michael, and morphing does that but cmon this is getting to ridiculous, Michael is not walking around disguised as every single person like this is getting way to far fetched to the point where its actually  funny. yes i believe he has disguised himself as certain people like dave dave but now sandra bullock and travis payne? these assumptions are getting to ridiculous. he isnt disguising himself as every damn person. Who's next? pretty soon hes gunna be kenny ortega too.


I am sorry, but my facial structures are exactly the same as they were 15 years ago. I got older, but that's it. As Mike said himself: I had 2 surgeries. Maybe he told the truth? I think it's interesting how fans always say that he would never lie, so why would you think he lied about that?

And I have never said he was disguised as Sandra Bullock, although I remember we only saw a hat, so who knows. Maybe he even didn't disguise himself as Travis, although I think Travis' facial structures are interesting to say the least when you compare them to Mike's or even other Jacksons. The shape of his chin, the small upper lip that is a-symetric, the full bottom lip that hangs a little on one side, the jaws and even his ears are similar to Mike's. Maybe just a coincidence, but to me they do look a lot like each other.

But I do think we have seen him a lot more often than we might think. People should be more open to this. Some don't seem to realize what is possible with prostetic make-up these days and we should also realize that money is not an issue. Mike is the master of disguise and I get the feeling he is underestimated even with this...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on April 20, 2010, 02:27:29 PM
I find this interesting, even if a bit far fetched, because I thought about this a few days ago when watching a dance vid of Travis.
Who knows? ;)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 20, 2010, 07:11:09 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
lol. your using a very old picture of michael, and morphing does that but cmon this is getting to ridiculous, Michael is not walking around disguised as every single person like this is getting way to far fetched to the point where its actually  funny. yes i believe he has disguised himself as certain people like dave dave but now sandra bullock and travis payne? these assumptions are getting to ridiculous. he isnt disguising himself as every damn person. Who's next? pretty soon hes gunna be kenny ortega too.


I am sorry, but my facial structures are exactly the same as they were 15 years ago. I got older, but that's it. As Mike said himself: I had 2 surgeries. Maybe he told the truth? I think it's interesting how fans always say that he would never lie, so why would you think he lied about that?

And I have never said he was disguised as Sandra Bullock, although I remember we only saw a hat, so who knows. Maybe he even didn't disguise himself as Travis, although I think Travis' facial structures are interesting to say the least when you compare them to Mike's or even other Jacksons. The shape of his chin, the small upper lip that is a-symetric, the full bottom lip that hangs a little on one side, the jaws and even his ears are similar to Mike's. Maybe just a coincidence, but to me they do look a lot like each other.

But I do think we have seen him a lot more often than we might think. People should be more open to this. Some don't seem to realize what is possible with prostetic make-up these days and we should also realize that money is not an issue. Mike is the master of disguise and I get the feeling he is underestimated even with this...
First off who said he lied about anything? yes he said he had two nose surgeries and a cleft chin which he openly admitted to and i believe HIM and only him. i dont believe what anyone else says. If Michael comes out and says himself he was disguised as travis fine. but imo i dont believe it because its just getting ridiculous. imo i dont think with all this hoax stuff hed have the time to dress up as every single person. next were gunna be sayig hes kenny ortega because kennys face will suddenly looks different. im not bashing the idea i just personally dont believe in it. imo i just dont think hes disguising himself as everyone. he cant be everyone.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: mykidsmum on April 20, 2010, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Interesting, we compared Travis and Mike already a few weeks ago but because we normally get bashed as hell, we didn't want to post it. But hey, since someone else brings it up, I guess it's ok to post the morphs...


Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)


And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)


Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match) but I'll let you decide...
OH COME ON!  You had to ELONGATE that picture of MJ with the fro to make it fit.  This is a screen capture comparison of the two photo's you used.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: loma on April 20, 2010, 07:23:33 PM
Sorry Mo. I just don't see it.  :(
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 20, 2010, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Interesting, we compared Travis and Mike already a few weeks ago but because we normally get bashed as hell, we didn't want to post it. But hey, since someone else brings it up, I guess it's ok to post the morphs...


Travis This is It premiere and Travis on the Jingle Bell Ball:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travistravis.gif)


And Travis This is It premiere and Mike:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/miketravis.gif)


Travis doesn't match his own head, but he matches Mike's (mouth, chin, corners of the eyes, all a perfect match) but I'll let you decide...
OH COME ON!  You had to ELONGATE that picture of MJ with the fro to make it fit.  This is a screen capture comparison of the two photo's you used.
what do you mean?
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: mykidsmum on April 20, 2010, 10:35:13 PM
I mean in order for her to match up the picture of MJ with the afro to the picture of Travis, she had to stretch the picture of MJ.  I took a screen shot of both pictures she used and put them side by side so you can see how she stretched out one of them to fit over the Travis face.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 20, 2010, 11:23:44 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
I mean in order for her to match up the picture of MJ with the afro to the picture of Travis, she had to stretch the picture of MJ.  I took a screen shot of both pictures she used and put them side by side so you can see how she stretched out one of them to fit over the Travis face.
oh i get it now thx :)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: rayvyn on April 21, 2010, 01:07:04 AM
Good grief...
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Another_Part_of_Me on April 21, 2010, 01:21:21 AM
hahahahah u guys r funny!!!

Travis is buff as hell !
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 21, 2010, 01:43:13 AM
Chappie just sent me this comparison pic.  

Compare the side view of Travis' nose at the This It It premiere to the side view of Travis' nose on other pics.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travvi.jpg)

These noses don't look the same...  
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Jacksonology on April 21, 2010, 01:45:04 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Chappie just sent me this comparison pic.  

Compare the side view of Travis' nose at the This It It premiere to the side view of Travis' nose on other pics.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/travvi.jpg)

These noses don't look the same...  
Agreed. After this comparison people should really consider my Theory with the Kids having Doubles... instead of bashing me for it.......
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Puff on April 21, 2010, 01:46:38 AM
The nose is a lot different!... During the TII premier he had a pointed nose... and then it changed again...? Travis is magical too... :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 21, 2010, 01:49:36 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Agreed. After this comparison people should really consider my Theory with the Kids having Doubles... instead of bashing me for it.......

Welcome to the club  ;)  You'll get used to the bashing, believe me...  Don't let it keep you from posting your theories.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: Jacksonology on April 21, 2010, 01:55:59 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Agreed. After this comparison people should really consider my Theory with the Kids having Doubles... instead of bashing me for it.......

Welcome to the club  ;)  You'll get used to the bashing, believe me...  Don't let it keep you from posting your theories.
Thanks Mo,I'm done with some of these people's Ignorance and Blindness and speaking my mind. Worst comes to Worst i have to get alittle verbal 8-)
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: PinkTopaz on April 21, 2010, 02:19:04 AM
May I just ask this: What in heck what be the point of Michael dressing as Travis Payne, wasting his time with this movie stuff..? He wants people to think that he taught the TII dancers the steps and not Travis..? Isn't the hoax a little too important for something like this?
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: MJonmind on April 21, 2010, 02:59:27 AM
I love MJ's disguises but this one seems a stretch. :?

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There is an odd thing about heights though. First Travis taller than MJ, Kenny taller than Travis, and suddenly Michael taller than Kenny (and other pics of them they are same height)

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Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: *Mo* on April 21, 2010, 03:33:35 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
May I just ask this: What in heck what be the point of Michael dressing as Travis Payne, wasting his time with this movie stuff..? He wants people to think that he taught the TII dancers the steps and not Travis..? Isn't the hoax a little too important for something like this?

The point could be proving that he's perfectly able to appear in front of millions of people without even being noticed.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: infinatetrinity on April 21, 2010, 06:06:18 AM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
I think it's important to keep in mind that it's possible for Michael to have had more than one disguise these past 10 months. For example, if he was disguised as Travis, that doesn't necessarily mean everytime we've seen Travis, it's been MJ. I don't think that at all. Think about all the possible disguises we've discovered. He could have been them all at one point.

And this has got me thinking... if any of these really are his disguises, it makes sense on his choice of people to pretend to be. None of them are "super famous" to the point where we would have their mannerisms memorized. They are people we just "know of" for the most part. BUT - Michael knows all of them really well: Travis Payne, DAVE DAVE, his nephew (at the grammy's, can't think of his name right now)...
These are all people who Michael was close with, so they are the most likely people for him to be able to "become" because he knows their mannerisms and voices so well.

Just some thoughts...


I 100 % agree.Not only that but everyone needs to take a step back and remember one simple little thing.It was stated by Michaels own brother mind you that Michael was sooo good at his disguises that he fooled his own mother many many times.So if Michael can fool his own mom cmon he can fool each and every one of us no matter how much you think you know Michael or not,so yes I say it's possible he has been in disguise as Payne.
Title: Re: Travis Payne, black MJ?
Post by: PinkTopaz on April 21, 2010, 10:13:54 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
May I just ask this: What in heck what be the point of Michael dressing as Travis Payne, wasting his time with this movie stuff..? He wants people to think that he taught the TII dancers the steps and not Travis..? Isn't the hoax a little too important for something like this?

The point could be proving that he's perfectly able to appear in front of millions of people without even being noticed.
Ah.

MJonMind, you have a point about the heights there- and I don't know, the Travis in the photo with Kenny does suddenly look different from the one with Michael..His grin does kind of remind me of Michael there, yet not on the other pic..
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