Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: Lady J on April 18, 2010, 08:24:07 AM
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I wonder where they have been? Look they hug her like they have not been living with her lately. Why would not they go together with their grandma to the restaurant?
Maybe they were with their daddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..I think
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Did you catch at the end where the cameraman said she's looking tired? IDK - we're a hugging family and we greet with hugs even if we saw the person the day before. I'm glad they are getting out but the kids seem pretty subdued except for Blanket. I hope they are happy.
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Why did they have to sit next to a window knowing the paps would obviously follow em, could they not find a place to sit away from windows like in the middle somewhere? 8-)
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the kids look bored arriving
why the hugs dont they live with her?
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We're still waiting for a report from Children Services regarding the "stun gun incident". Harve never updated us on that.
Do these kids live somewhere else, or do they want people to think they live somewhere else?
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social services are not going to do anything
the children have bodyguards, guardians, etc and the gun was taken before any harm was done
they probably had a word about internet purchases and thats it
but why would the kids greet their grandma whom they live with like that - unless she has been away or they have
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WITH DADDY MAYBE..????
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grace was not there - was she?
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Do these kids live somewhere else, or do they want people to think they live somewhere else?
See , that's the thing ...Strange things happen but nobody or few people notice it by their own ..They have to stick it in their face ..Just like Jermaine's slip up .....And people STILL think it's just a mistake ....:
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Where is this restuarant? It says "century city"... where is that?
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Did you catch at the end where the cameraman said she's looking tired? IDK - we're a hugging family and we greet with hugs even if we saw the person the day before. I'm glad they are getting out but the kids seem pretty subdued except for Blanket. I hope they are happy.
He said - she's looking "down" - not "tired"
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they were saying there she is bout paris i think but yeah they wanted the paps attention or they wudnt have sat there
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We're still waiting for a report from Children Services regarding the "stun gun incident". Harve never updated us on that.
Do these kids live somewhere else, or do they want people to think they live somewhere else?
I think you may be very right about that. I love seeing the children though but I would want the paparazzi to leave them alone some time.
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Oh my. Those were "how have you been since I haven't seen you in a while " type of hugs. Those were not hugs between people who woke up under the same roof and ate breakfast together that day. Several new faces exited from the car too. Yes...good question...where was Grace? The older kids can easily handle the charade. I wonder what is done to keep Blanket on track and focused.
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Did you catch at the end where the cameraman said she's looking tired? IDK - we're a hugging family and we greet with hugs even if we saw the person the day before. I'm glad they are getting out but the kids seem pretty subdued except for Blanket. I hope they are happy.
He said - she's looking "down" - not "tired"
Thank you for the correction :)
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the kids look bored arriving
why the hugs dont they live with her?
You don't hug in your house or out of the house? I don't see why any of you think this is weird. They or she might have been at an a.m. appointment and they met up there for lunch- hug - so what - My daughter hugs me all the time even before we get out of the van when we get home.
They might have stayed over somewhere - hug - so what. Again lack of understanding leads many to jump to conclusions over something that never existed to begin with. This is too reminiscent of the old forum and shaming this family [it was much worse over there]- the emoitional responses are never what you want - or are they. You twist these good people because you want to mold to your hoax - tabloid trash. You people are the weird ones; not this family. See ya.
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Where is this restuarant? It says "century city"... where is that?
anyone know???
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i actually hug a lot
just me i suppose
but it could have been staged - another distraction
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@ java you dont know the family? they are disfunctional like the rest of us, and they are a showbiz family
they do create the drama and we respond
if you dont like the hoax site - its up to you
but thanks for your contribution.
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I wonder where they have been? Look they hug her like they have not been living with her lately. Why would not they go together with their grandma to the restaurant?
Maybe they were with their daddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..I think
I knew there who were in New York
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I thought MJ used to have an apartment in Century City back in the day hummm....
Yeah the hugging isn't strange at all, we do that in my family...
The kids do look bored as hell tho.
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is it like a hotel or apartment complex?
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I thought MJ used to have an apartment in Century City back in the day hummm....
Yeah the hugging isn't strange at all, we do that in my family...
The kids do look bored as hell tho.
Where is Century City please??
Why is everyone ignoring my question? I always help others out! :evil:
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is it like a hotel or apartment complex?
I think it was more like a condo, I'm not completely sure tho, I thought I read it somewhere years ago. Whether it was Century City or somewhere else He did have an apartment that was closer to everything aside from Neverland.
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I thought MJ used to have an apartment in Century City back in the day hummm....
Yeah the hugging isn't strange at all, we do that in my family...
The kids do look bored as hell tho.
Where is Century City please??
Why is everyone ignoring my question? I always help others out! :evil:
Century City is in LA
Century City is a 176-acre (712,000-m2) commercial and residential district on the West Side of the City of Los Angeles.
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Century City is a 176-acre (712,000-m2) commercial and residential district on the West Side of the City of Los Angeles. It is bounded by Westwood on the west, Rancho Park on the southwest, Cheviot Hills and Beverlywood on the southeast, and the city of Beverly Hills on the northeast. Its major thoroughfares are Santa Monica, Olympic, and Pico Boulevards (its northern boundary, central artery, and southern boundary, respectively), as well as Avenue of the Stars and Century Park East and West.
Century City is an important business center, and many law firms and executives — particularly those with ties to the film, television, and music industries — have offices there.
The high-rise buildings along Wilshire Boulevard in Westwood appear to blend in with those of Century City when seen at a distance, although they are separated by over three-quarters of a mile (1.2 km).
Skyline from Santa Monica BoulevardIts gleaming high-rises stand in stark contrast to the small apartment buildings and single-family detached homes in the lower-density neighborhoods surrounding it, and were some of the first skyscrapers built in Los Angeles after the lifting of earthquake-related height restrictions in the early 1960s.
For many years, it was home to the ABC Entertainment Center, which housed network operations for the ABC Television Network and the "Shubert Theater," which hosted many famous Broadway Musicals, such as: Beauty and the Beast, Les Misérables, and Mamma Mia, which is based on the famous popular rock band ABBA. The Shubert was demolished in 2002 and became replaced by a modern glass building that houses the headquarters Creative Artists Agency affectionately known as the Death Star, which is part of the complex called Century Park.
Some of the most recognized buildings in Century City include:
The Century Towers
Century Plaza Towers, commonly referred to as the "Twin Towers".
Fox Plaza, 20th Century Fox headquarters most well-known for being Nakatomi Plaza in the movie Die Hard.
Constellation Place, (or the MGM Tower) headquarters of the historic Hollywood studio, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
Watt Plaza
SunAmerica Center
Century Plaza Hotel
Century City News
History
The Fox Plaza
At the southern end of Century City, Fox Plaza towers over the nearby neighborhoods.Once a backlot of 20th Century Fox, which still has its headquarters just to the southwest, the Fox studio commissioned a master-plan development from Welton Becket Associates, which was unveiled at a major press event on the "western" backlot in 1957. In 1961, after Fox suffered a string of expensive flops, culminating in the box-office disaster Cleopatra, the film studio sold about 180 acres (0.73 km2) to developer William Zeckendorf and Aluminum Co. of America, also known as Alcoa. The new owners conceived Century City as "a city within a city."[1] In 1963, the first building, Century City Gateway West, was complete, followed the next year by Minoru Yamasaki's Century Plaza Hotel.
It originally was planned to be served by the Beverly Hills Freeway (Santa Monica Boulevard to the north) and a rapid transit corridor. However, neither of these transportation improvements came to pass, and so Century City is a source of traffic irritation for the residents of Cheviot Hills to the south, since there is no direct freeway access to the center. It is likely that any westward extension of the Los Angeles MTA's Metro Purple Line subway will include a stop at Century City.
Much of the shopping center's architecture and style is shown off in numerous sequences in the 1967 Fox film, A Guide for the Married Man, and can also be seen in a sequence in another Fox film of the same year, Caprice. The way the plaza looked in 1972 can be viewed in several scenes of still another Fox film, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes.
mike received an award there
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thanks peeps
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this was written at the time of the first allegation and it would seem mike owned a condo there
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this must be a leacked story, maybe they followed ma jackson
but not too many body guards
paris looks in the direction of the camera
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this was written at the time of the first allegation and it would seem mike owned a condo there
Yeah; I read it in that article that was written by Mary A Fisher. I think that was her name. She was basically exonerating MJ in that article. It's a good read.
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the hugs were weird for me too at the beggining but maybe they went somewhere in the morning and they didnt see her till that moment.
but it was weird at the beggining tho....
if you want pics i have and i can post them here.
just tell me if you want
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I miss Grace and wheren is Omah Bhatti ? He was also often seen with the kids.
There is something that makes me wonder.
When the kide meet Katherine...please have a look...Prince was the first who hugs Katherine, but she don't hug him...then come the boy with the cap...Jermains son ?...Katherine hugs him very close...then Paris....the hug was not so warm like the hug to the other.
It seems like the kids and Katherine are not very close together...but i can be wrong...
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Where is this restuarant? It says "century city"... where is that?
anyone know???
Century City is a Mall in LA. They went to Rock Sugar which is located in Century City Mall.
Here's a link talking about Rock Sugar opening in Century City Mall.
http://la.eater.com/archives/2007/10/08/rock_sugar_to_open_at_century_city_mall.php
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I believe that children living with dady ... as it should be :lol:
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I miss Grace and wheren is Omah Bhatti ? He was also often seen with the kids.
There is something that makes me wonder.
When the kide meet Katherine...please have a look...Prince was the first who hugs Katherine, but she don't hug him...then come the boy with the cap...Jermains son ?...Katherine hugs him very close...then Paris....the hug was not so warm like the hug to the other.
It seems like the kids and Katherine are not very close together...but i can be wrong...
I agree with you. Why would Katherine give Jaafar a warm hug and not Prince and Paris. Jaafar lives in the house also. I am a grandmother and my grandkids see me everyday, but they also give me a hug and I do return it.
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you guys; I didn't notice that, that is strange.
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the hugs were weird for me too at the beggining but maybe they went somewhere in the morning and they didnt see her till that moment.
but it was weird at the beggining tho....
if you want pics i have and i can post them here.
just tell me if you want
Yeah can you post the pics? please :)
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I also think the hugging in itself is absolutely not strange, we kiss each other on the cheek every day after somebody come home after school or work.
What strange is for me, why did they sit near the window when paparazzis can clearly see them.... :?
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@Java, I totally agree with you on this. The Jackson family is a loving family and they are very affectionate people. I think to much is made out of everything when the children are seen. As for them sitting by a window, they HAVE THE RIGHT TO! I am sure that Mrs. Jackson would never ever intentionally put Michaels babies in the all seeing eyes of the Paparazzi. They are very normal family trying to live under very strange circumstance's. I am glad they are out and trying to live a normal life. Everyone just needs the allow them that. God knows they never allowed their daddy any.
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i actually hug a lot
just me i suppose
but it could have been staged - another distraction
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@ java you dont know the family? they are disfunctional like the rest of us, and they are a showbiz family
they do create the drama and we respond
if you dont like the hoax site - its up to you
but thanks for your contribution.
8-)
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Paris needs the touch of the funnest (okay funniest too :lol: ) nanny ever! :) okay if need be I could accept non dead daddy crazy girlfriend who is so fun title as well LOL :lol: :lol: :| whoo I need to stop takin things to the next level LOL :lol: :lol: :| i stop now back to the kids with grandma :geek:
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They all look bored, except Blanket who has his DS. The hugging this isn't a big deal, but if Katherine was half ass hugging Prince, Paris, and Blanket; then I do find that strange.
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its good they are going out and about and not stuck in the house all the time
they feel safe, no huge numbers of bodyguards - great - :D
but being with relatives all the time - and no outside school - i feel that they must be missing making friends with outsiders, not having friends -
they are approaching their teenage lives who are they going to crush on?
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Wow those kids are growing up so fast. I wonder when Blanket will start getting tired of people saying he looks like a girl and want his hair cut. It never fails. Happens all the time.
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Wow those kids are growing up so fast. I wonder when Blanket will start getting tired of people saying he looks like a girl and want his hair cut. It never fails. Happens all the time.
Or when he'll want people to stop calling him Blanket :lol:
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Wow those kids are growing up so fast. I wonder when Blanket will start getting tired of people saying he looks like a girl and want his hair cut. It never fails. Happens all the time.
Or when he'll want people to stop calling him Blanket :lol:
If your michael jackson's son does it really matter what your called :lol: :lol:
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The kids look kinda sad to me, especially Paris.
According to Heismypeterpan, Grace is no longer in the Encino house.
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The kids look kinda sad to me, especially Paris.
According to Heismypeterpan, Grace is no longer in the Encino house.
"ooh ooh I can fill in!!" **waiving 1 hand endlessly, with resume in the other" :lol: :lol: :| oops here i go again :lol: 8-)
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It's nice to see them out but I hope this doesn't become a regular thing like photographers and camera people following the kid's every move like they did with MJ. Also did anyone pick up what was said at the end, bit creepy.
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the children do look bored but they are teenagers and with mine they always look bored or get very embarrassed easily at family get togethers they get moody I just hope it is that Paris looks very down.
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The hugs in and of themselves are not strange. However, you do wonder why they are meeting Grandma for lunch, instead of arriving together. Maybe Grandma went shopping alone?
One question though: Does anyone understand who the photographer is talking about when he says to the other: There is somebody sitting in thatcorner there, see him/it?
I didn't see anything.
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Start watching at :35 a black van pulls in & parks next to where the kids parked & at :43 the black bald guy with the checkered shirt walks up to the van with his coat held up like he is going to shield who ever it is thats getting out of the van, & the video tape is intentionally cut & there is only one person I can think of that would be shielded from anybodys view. Its interesting that the camera guys didn't cont filming who ever it was thats getting out, but maybe the camera guys are jus taking pictures to peak publics interest at this point. Like its all being staged.
Eating lunch in front of the window like that was deliberate.
[youtube:2hrd1svz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7P_p_xVQ1M[/youtube:2hrd1svz]
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Start watching at :35 a black van pulls in & parks next to where the kids parked & at :43 the black bald guy with the checkered shirt walks up to the van with his coat held up like he is going to shield who ever it is thats getting out of the van, & the video tape is intentionally cut & there is only one person I can think of that would be shielded from anybodys view. Its interesting that the camera guys didn't cont filming who ever it was thats getting out, but maybe the camera guys are jus taking pictures to peak publics interest at this point. Like its all being staged.
Eating lunch in front of the window like that was deliberate.
[youtube:1l7s7yyj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7P_p_xVQ1M[/youtube:1l7s7yyj]
Good observation! But I still don't see what the photographer sees inside the restaurant.
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The kids look kinda sad to me, especially Paris.
According to Heismypeterpan, Grace is no longer in the Encino house.
They look sad to me too. Their eyes seem kind of empty. We need to keep them in our prayers. They don't have the joy in their eyes like we see in all of those videos with their daddy.
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Start watching at :35 a black van pulls in & parks next to where the kids parked & at :43 the black bald guy with the checkered shirt walks up to the van with his coat held up like he is going to shield who ever it is thats getting out of the van, & the video tape is intentionally cut & there is only one person I can think of that would be shielded from anybodys view. Its interesting that the camera guys didn't cont filming who ever it was thats getting out, but maybe the camera guys are jus taking pictures to peak publics interest at this point. Like its all being staged.
Eating lunch in front of the window like that was deliberate.
[youtube:6ro4du8w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7P_p_xVQ1M[/youtube:6ro4du8w]
Good observation! But I still don't see what the photographer sees inside the restaurant.
Listen at 1:09 the camera guy says "there is someone in that corner, see him?" & the other camera guy says "oh yeah" the camera guys saying that is peaking interest in the viewer (us) we are looking to see who is sitting in the corner. get it?? IMO the photographers are staged (by MJ), prbly NPG, snappin pictures and peaking curiosity by sayin stuff like that. BTW MJ may very well be in that corner, sitting between blanket & katherine out of camera view.
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When my family & I go meet someone else in the family for lunch, if we've seen them yesterday or earlier today we hug them when we greet them. However, I live with my mom, my brother & my mom. If I met one of them for lunch, I wouldn't greet them that way. I'd say hi & sit down, since I see them EVERYDAY. I was taken back by the fact that they arrived separately from Katherine & unknown people exited the car as well & directed them where to go. Something is off, it seems they aren't living with her anymore. Otherwise they would have arrived together like they normally would. I wonder where they've been? The whole stun gun incident is seeming more & more like a distraction while the kids are sent somewhere else to live with someone else. Daddy maybe? I couldn't see them living with anyone else since Katherine is the named guardian. Also, they got rid of Grace, so who are these other people with the kids? Bodyguards maybe? New nanny? Maybe Daddy was still in the car ;) Just kidding, that's wishful thinking. It is also strange that they would pick a table right next to the window knowing that paparazzi was out there watching them. Maybe there was someone in the car who wanted to be able to see them. Blanket looks so cute & like a normal 8 year old boy, he got restless. & Prince & Paris look so much older now.
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I HOPE THEY ARE WITH THEIR DADDYYY :cry:
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in my family i was raised as many of my cousins were too ..that we always gave each other a hug and kiss when family meets and when they leave..no matter if we seen them the day before or not....my parents live down the street and when they come over (even if i do speak to them everyday lol) its not uncommon if my dad and i are walking in the yard talking that i take ahold of his arm/hand as we walk same goes for my mom as well..i am a hugger :D hugg makes you feel like everything is going to be ok ;)
anyways lol...
OK questions/clues????.... :shock:
did you notice the Fiji (sp) water bottles on the table??..was that some kind of clue??. :shock:
by chance did anyone see what was on paris t-shirt?? and prince michael t-shirt??...
just wondering..i couldn't make it out and don't know if theres anything to them??
is it me or does it seem like michaels kids are growing up very fast??..
not to long ago they were just little kids ..each time we see them they appear older...
well you know how the saying goes..i guess im just getting older :lol:
huggs
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Yes, I saw that person attempting to shield someone with a jacket---but it seemed unsuccessful. However, like someone said earlier the tape is spliced shortly after that point. Was someone else concealed???
At any rate, it would be nice if MJ was in the restaurant in disguise....but I tend to think they papz are talking about Blanket in the corner. He is so adorable. Isn't it cute how he puts on a show right in front of the window for the paparazzi? I am surprised Katherine +/or the body guards would even allow that (or the mere fact that they are all in full view being seated at the window).
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Yes, I saw that person attempting to shield someone with a jacket---but it seemed unsuccessful. However, like someone said earlier the tape is spliced shortly after that point. Was someone else concealed???
At any rate, it would be nice if MJ was in the restaurant in disguise....but I tend to think they papz are talking about Blanket in the corner. He is so adorable. Isn't it cute how he puts on a show right in front of the window for the paparazzi? I am surprised Katherine +/or the body guards would even allow that (or the mere fact that they are all in full view being seated at the window).
Maybe that was a deliberate distraction?
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I know what you all are saying when you see the bald checkered shirt guy walk up to the (other black) van that pulls right up with the kids van, but if it was MJ I guess the bodyguards (or whoever the guys holding up jackets) be in on the hoax? I mean if they saw that it was MJ well then what? Unless MJ came in disguise maybe? :?
Then I am like yep they sure did cut the filming when the other van pulled in like they did not want to show that PART!! It was so quick! And my goodness Momma Katherine barley hugged Prince!!! Dang!!!
One thing for sure in viewing this is that those kids have been away where we don't know but they have definitley been away. Maybe not that long since Momma Katherine barley hugged Prince. And also Paris really did just look bored. She was looking like she really didnt even want to be there!!
Also if this is not a hoax I repeat NOT a hoax then I am so sad for the kids. It must be awful losing MJ and then with all of the trial things going on, newspaper articles, I wonder how they feel seeing MURRAY plastered on a T.V. or magazine, or newspaper you know> ? Even though they have family or whatever, friends, whatever I bet they miss MJ like hell. (IF this is NOT a hoax) :(
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I know what you all are saying when you see the bald checkered shirt guy walk up to the (other black) van that pulls right up with the kids van, but if it was MJ I guess the bodyguards (or whoever the guys holding up jackets) be in on the hoax? I mean if they saw that it was MJ well then what? Unless MJ came in disguise maybe? :?
Then I am like yep they sure did cut the filming when the other van pulled in like they did not want to show that PART!! It was so quick! And my goodness Momma Katherine barley hugged Prince!!! Dang!!!
One thing for sure in viewing this is that those kids have been away where we don't know but they have definitley been away. Maybe not that long since Momma Katherine barley hugged Prince. And also Paris really did just look bored. She was looking like she really didnt even want to be there!!
Also if this is not a hoax I repeat NOT a hoax then I am so sad for the kids. It must be awful losing MJ and then with all of the trial things going on, newspaper articles, I wonder how they feel seeing MURRAY plastered on a T.V. or magazine, or newspaper you know> ? Even though they have family or whatever, friends, whatever I bet they miss MJ like hell. (IF this is NOT a hoax) :(
If MJ came in disguise why would he try & shield him?? Who else would he be shielding?? I cant think of anybody else but MJ.
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Yes I heard that too, but I thought the guy said There is someone else in that car (not corner)...that is what I heard. So if that is the case then maybe they were checking out the car too. I found it a bit strange that they left the door opened after the kids got out. Most people just shut the door and continue on....to me it seemed very staged.
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gosh prince reminds me so much of his daddy. how he walks and holds his hands. so polite. awwww he's too cute! 8-)
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The Michael Jackson kids look dispirited to me.
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Guys, i know it's not strange to hug and kiss a family member. but this video strikes me odd. The kids look like they haven't seen Katherine in a LONG time. and not in Hours a LONG time. The only time we saw them at the Encino home was when they were playing in the pool and before the funeral. who's to say where they went after the funeral. maybe the stun gun incident was fabricated, a hoax maybe the kids were never there. and who knows maybe that was Michael in the other van. Who else would he be shielding? and the glass at the restaurant is very reflective so we couldn't see clearly. He could of been in there.
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It is very possible to me imo that maybe Katherine had been out & then met up with the kids for lunch & they were hugging because they were in paparazzi view ;) Or they were just being like any family & hugging as a way of greeting each other, although she didn't hug all of them for some reason. I also did notice that Prince gives Katherine a very loving hug & she barely hugged him back which I thought was odd. Same with Paris. Yet, she hugs Jermajesty very tightly. Maybe Jermajesty is just very close to his grandma, since he's been living with her for a while now. Maybe she & MJ's kids aren't as close, however if they are living with her, I'd think they would be. I also think it is strange how they pick the window right by the window & they seem to point at the paps through the window. & then Blanket is allowed outside to put on a little show for the paps. I also noticed how sad Paris & Prince look in the pics, that doesn't sit too well with me. I'm not sure about this, maybe it is staged? What if the kids aren't staying with Katherine anymore & this lunch thing was a staged event to show the kids with their grandma. It kind of seems that way. Also the way that guy was trying to shield whoever with that little jacket seemed fake to me. He was holding the jacket very low, who the heck was he going to shield like that? The video did seem cut too. Hmmm :| & I still want to know who all those other people are? The ones that were showing the kids where to go. Maybe the kids weren't ever staying with Katherine, we've heard & read that they are but we have no way of knowing that for sure. Maybe the stun gun story was fabricated & they were never there like someone said before me. I did find it weird how Jaafar said in his interview that MJ's kids lived on the other side of the house. WTH that's weird. Perhaps they've been living somewhere else with someone else & we are told they are living at the Encino house to throw the paparazzi off. It seems like the only time we see the kids with their grandma & cousins is when they're out & about. The could have arrived separately & met up at those places too. Just like that person said above me, we've only seem them at the Encino home twice right after the funeral/memorial. There's never any paparazzi shots of the kids playing in the pool or outside anymore. Maybe they're not allowed. Man, I'm confused lol there's so many weird things & so many different possibilities/explanations, it's hard to keep my thoughts straight :lol: This video seemed off to me though. Especially the half ass hugs.
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This meeting is very strange to me too. Why did they not arrive together with Katherine? Why did the kids arrive there alone without a nanny? Katherine seems to hug and kiss the boy with the hat but not the other kids. When Prince hugs her she doesn't even hug him back. They really don't look close here.
I really have doubts about them still living in the Encino house. I think they probably only stayed there for a few nights after Michael just had 'died'. That's why they needed the sleeping bags. They can't still be sleeping in sleeping bags for 10 months.
Why does that paperazzi guy say to look in the corner?
I think they were very aware of the fact that there would be paparazzi there ;)
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when the kids are coming out there are othere suv's 2 driving slowly by?
i think this is jackson spin - just a good news story
i hope they had a good lunch
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The kids are rearly looking very sad....but they often looks so sad...not only after the " death"....have you pics with rearly laughing Paris, Prince and Blanket ? From the last years ?
I can't believe that Michael was there...dosn't the kids then look a little bit better ?
The missing hug from Katherine is weird.
How many ppl live in Encino house ? It wasn't so big ...has only 5 bedrooms...so where are they all ?
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641- ... 1730_zpid/ (http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4641-Hayvenhurst-Ave-Encino-CA-91436/19991730_zpid/)
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This video is interesting. Those children had to be with someone else in that truck that was a part of the Jackson family. Also who is all these new people with the kids? Looks like they have a new nanny. I don't think the children would be left alone with just the staff. MJ never let those kids go out with just staff. I also notice that the asian lady who appears to be the nanny she goes back to the truck and looks inside also there are guys behing the truck as well. I think it is odd that they chose to sit right in front of the window. They know they will be photographed. You can tell by Prince and Jafaars reaction when they're looking out the window. You can also hear the camera guy say like oh s@#$ there is someone sitting in the corner but I don't think they are talking about Katherine or the kids. I sense MJ around somewhere. If they were with him that would explain the sad look having to leave him even though they having lunch with their grandma.
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i would have thought that if they were to meet mike they would look happy
so i think not - plus its too public - i think this is a good story leak
the sun newspp had them all the time
to show the new set up - but hey do they really care what we think - not, they arrange their household to suit themselves as we all do
i think the kids should go to school - like the obama children
i understand that mike wanted to be with the kids, but what about jermaine's children he earns $10,000 a year - and dont they need to get a real world perspective - their dad is not a maga star - no disrepect jermaine -just being real
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Yes, I saw that no hair dude holding up his jacket,too.And I was wondering,the same question.For who holding up jacket???I mean the other Jackson family members like cameras 8-)
I find it kinda odd,that the wanna be paparazzi ,did not stay focus on that second Car.But POINT out to let US know that,there is somebody in the corner inside!!!]
The first time I saw this Video,i had a odd feeling about this might be staged?Am I the only person here having that feeling? :?
So food for thoughts in Math!!!
Of course they can't tell us straight away hey here is Michaels Message I'm alive :lol:
Mystery Person in car + Person in Restaurant corner= ????
Maybe I see to much in to it??? :geek:
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this is not a sighting - no mj or costume mj
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looks like 'face time' to me, if i may quote joan rivers here. if they wanted a quiet lunch and not be seen at it, they could have had the place locked and barred up.
i don't see much suspicion here otherwise. this was just to show they're all fine. the kids did look tired, tho. maybe they had a 'long ride' to the lunch... :mrgreen:
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I hope they got a doggie bag for MJ!!! He has to eat too, ya know :mrgreen:
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The children are so beautiful, God bless their big and beautiful hearts! Thanks for the pictures. :mrgreen:
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libra8, You are right, it seems to be to cover someone in another car coming, in fact the video was edited. 8-)
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Thanx for the photos, to tell the truth this seems staged to me, how low that dude holds the jacket to shield the kids,how the children seat just near the windows knowing that the paparazzi are photographing them, Paris looks really sad and bored, and i dont get why Mrs Katherine barely hugs Prince,dunno what to think, hope they stay with Michael,this was just staged to shoe that they live in Enchino house with others.
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I see Michael in all 3 of those kids...Prince and Paris look very bored but then again they are 12 and 13. Prince seems a bit more up but Paris does seem a bit depressed and has a worried look on her face. Blanket is a bit fidgety but then again a kid at that age usually is in a restaurant.
Thanks for the photos and the video. I find the hugs a bit wierd. I mean if they live with her why are they greeting her at a restaurant and obviously took seperate cars??? Very wierd!!!
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I think it looks staged, I don't mean this in a bad or negative way but I believe this was all for show. I have no idea why but I think MJ is somehow behind this. Why sit so close to the window, the cameras would be shooting them the whole time and it wasn't exactly a peaceful or private meeting. Why not sit where they can't be seen.There's something off about this picture.
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..if it was staged, and MJ was "behind" it, it would have been on TMZ first!! SO...I don't think ...
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does anyone the paparazzi group that filmed this?
i agree, it does look staged. the whole thing is weird, in my opinion. 2 separate cars (okay, i could see if katherine was out and had them meet up with her) but her half ass hug to prince and paris is a little uncalled for. personally, i don't think the kids are at encino. i think they're with michael. paris could be sad she had to leave her papa (she's a daddy's girl). prince is 13 and probably bored as hell and wants to get back to video games or basketball or talking about girls (whatever 13 year old boys do these days). blanket is just freaking adorable. that kid is like his father on stage- always happy and spirited. and anyone who doesn't think these kids are michael's biologically should check themselves into a hospital because they're insane. paris looks like debbie, but still has michael in her. prince looks like debbie and michael combined. and little blanket's profile is a spitting image of michael's. well done mike.
as for what the paps say, "him in the corner,"....how odd. if this was staged those comments were imperative for it. michael's giving us a clue/some hope every day. (thanks michael, god bless you). just next time you want to stage a photo op, don't do with the kids eating. i'm in my 20's and i wouldn't want people filming me while i eat, and if i had kids i wouldn't want them to be filmed while eating either. i mean, who looks good when they're trying to bite into a hamburger or a piece of chicken? i think meals are bonding time, and the kids should be allowed to do that without being sat by a huge open window knowing cameras are outside.
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i just wanna add somethings that i was thinking about
the remark about the man in the corner it would be the bodyguard in pink t-shit
i dunno
i will watch again the video and listen carefully if the papz says "pink" thats what i heard regarding the dude fron the corner
about the hugs and all that weird stuff i think is PR
just think : they never got photografied near katherine in those 8 month besiddes the memorial and the funeral
maybe the PR said that they need to be seen together because the ppl are wondering about all the encino stuff + the stun gun incident and the place where they lunched seems that they knew what they do.just to be seen together.
it coud be that they live in the same house but they had to do this of PR.and thats why the kids looked borred.like"why we have to do this just to show ppl that we are living with you(grandmom)"...
but i think they are living with mj coz if you watched the interview with jaafar and jermaine about the stung gun jermaine said one time that "prince paris and blanket miss my kids when they are going somewhere else and my kids miss prince paris and blanket when they are not in the house"
something like that ...so this means that the kids can go and come back without the paparazzi behind them
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I believe these are the people that took the video and pictures...They claim it was exclusive to them only....
http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/mic ... sons_2.php (http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php)
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The whole thing is too staged to me. Is it the first time they go out for lunch or dinner? No. So why are we seeing this now? And why do they prefer to sit a place just in front of the window where they can be viewed easily by the paps? Staged.
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I believe these are the people that took the video and pictures...They claim it was exclusive to them only....
http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/mic ... sons_2.php (http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php)
Exclusive to them ONLY? Really? Since when does that happen? That right there screams staged! They allowed one media team to film them at lunch. That's it. Why? PR. I truly believe the kids are staying somewhere else & they met up with Katherine to show that they are all well post stun gun incident. & to show that CPS did not take the kids away or anything. We never did hear what happened with all of that. The last I saw it said it was still pending. ;) They are trying to show the kids with Jaafar & Jermajesty to show that they are still close & all fine. But after lunch Katherine probably returned home to the Encino house. Jaafar & Jermajesty probably went there too. & PPB returned to wherever the heck they're staying. The hugs said it all, they are not close to their grandma like Jaafar & Jermajesty are. & the whole sitting right in front of where the paparazzi are, & they are obviously aware of them, you can see Prince & Jaafar point & stare right at them. & then Blanket goes outside RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM for a perfect shot. I agree Paris does seem nervous or worried. & Prince too. They know what is going on & are being told what to do. Jaafar has the same look Prince has too. As for Blanket he is being kept happy which is good. Also the way the kids get out of the car & kind of wait around to be told where to go. Usually they would all walk in with a bodyguard right away so that the paparazzi can't hound them. But this time the paps were ALLOWED to film them & get great shots of the kids. Strange indeed. If this isn't staged which it appears to be, then I really don't like the paparazzi being able to get this much footage & this close to the kids. :|
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Of course it's staged.
Come to think of it, have the kids ever been seen out and about with Katherine? Or with any elder Jackson for that matter? To my knowledge they've only been out with bodyguards/nannies and Liz Taylor since 6-25-09, is that correct?
And if that's correct, doesn't that seem strange?
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The black guy in the checkered shirt, the bald dude I mean, he has really buck teeth. What is up with that? Does anyone know who he is? I keep thinking something is not quite on the up and up with him, like he is the one in disguise.
Peace
Nefari
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Good call on checkered shirt, nafari. That bald bodyguard is awful skinny. It's looks like its his first day on the job with his "handling" of Paris by the arm. I don't think he ever changes expression and *gasp* does he actually wipe his mouth on the jacket as he holds it up to "shield" Prince? Gross (snicker).
Why are the kids standing around in the parking lot anyway?
Also, again I think the tape is poorly edited (why do the pap companies DO this??) and the hug scene is Katherine saying goodbye to the kids, not in greeting. Listen to the commentary and if you apply it to the situ it makes more sense. Still weird she doesn't hug Prince and only token hugs Paris.
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http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/mic ... sons_2.php (http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php)
Here you see two times he kids are at karate....i think at different places and you see the licene plate from the SUV from Nevada ?
Some posted it at the comments from the video.
Are they in Las Vegas ?
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http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php
Here you see two times he kids are at karate....i think at different places and you see the licene plate from the SUV from Nevada ?
Some posted it at the comments from the video.
Are they in Las Vegas ?
Doesn't MJ have a black SUV? Maybe the bodyguards are driving his car, although that seems weird. Or maybe a family member is driving MJ's car & dropping the kids off. Or maybe MJ himself is. Does MJ's car have Nevada plates? If not, then that is definitely ODD. & also it's interesting how the camera person focuses on the license plate for a second. What if they ARE living in Vegas & NOT with Katherine. Did the car that dropped the kids off at the restaurant have Nevada plates too? & doesn't Joe live in Vegas? We could be on to something. We haven't seen the kids with Katherine, aside from in the very beginning when she was shopping with Paris & then now at the restaurant. Other than that the only other times were at the memorial & the burial. Every other time they have been with cousins, bodyguards, Grace, Joe & Liz. Something's fishy.... ;) I wonder where they stay. Maybe they go back & forth between places. Either we're on to something or we're reading too much into this. Maybe they go to Vegas sometimes to visit Joe even though they're not supposed to. & then they stay in Cali. & just because they're staying in Cali doesn't mean they're with Katherine. Hmmm...
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http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php
Here you see two times he kids are at karate....i think at different places and you see the licene plate from the SUV from Nevada ?
Some posted it at the comments from the video.
Are they in Las Vegas ?
Doesn't MJ have a black SUV? Maybe the bodyguards are driving his car, although that seems weird. Or maybe a family member is driving MJ's car & dropping the kids off. Or maybe MJ himself is. Does MJ's car have Nevada plates? If not, then that is definitely ODD. & also it's interesting how the camera person focuses on the license plate for a second. What if they ARE living in Vegas & NOT with Katherine. Did the car that dropped the kids off at the restaurant have Nevada plates too? & doesn't Joe live in Vegas? We could be on to something. We haven't seen the kids with Katherine, aside from in the very beginning when she was shopping with Paris & then now at the restaurant. Other than that the only other times were at the memorial & the burial. Every other time they have been with cousins, bodyguards, Grace, Joe & Liz. Something's fishy.... ;) I wonder where they stay. Maybe they go back & forth between places. Either we're on to something or we're reading too much into this. Maybe they go to Vegas sometimes to visit Joe even though they're not supposed to. & then they stay in Cali. & just because they're staying in Cali doesn't mean they're with Katherine. Hmmm...
is this what they mean by what happens in vegas stays in vegas? dang I need to go there! ;)
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http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php
Here you see two times he kids are at karate....i think at different places and you see the licene plate from the SUV from Nevada ?
Some posted it at the comments from the video.
Are they in Las Vegas ?
Doesn't MJ have a black SUV? Maybe the bodyguards are driving his car, although that seems weird. Or maybe a family member is driving MJ's car & dropping the kids off. Or maybe MJ himself is. Does MJ's car have Nevada plates? If not, then that is definitely ODD. & also it's interesting how the camera person focuses on the license plate for a second. What if they ARE living in Vegas & NOT with Katherine. Did the car that dropped the kids off at the restaurant have Nevada plates too? & doesn't Joe live in Vegas? We could be on to something. We haven't seen the kids with Katherine, aside from in the very beginning when she was shopping with Paris & then now at the restaurant. Other than that the only other times were at the memorial & the burial. Every other time they have been with cousins, bodyguards, Grace, Joe & Liz. Something's fishy.... ;) I wonder where they stay. Maybe they go back & forth between places. Either we're on to something or we're reading too much into this. Maybe they go to Vegas sometimes to visit Joe even though they're not supposed to. & then they stay in Cali. & just because they're staying in Cali doesn't mean they're with Katherine. Hmmm...
that was not Katherine.Was the nanny
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I'm thinking that really was MJ in the other van and the photographer just edited where he needed to hide MJ. The kids seem like just an ordinary day out with Dad, cousins and entourage. We don't see them all going into the restaurant and the paps are talking about "him" sitting there in the corner. I think Michael's been with the children all the time except for brief periods. Michael has 40 years experience hiding when he needs to stay invisible, and travelling around the world with "friends" ready to cover for him. Hidden in plain sight. We only see what we're supposed to see, when we're supposed to see. I remember way back TIAI said we were so stuck on whether he was alive or not and weren't going to the stage of why and what. So we need to assume he's alive, its just where at any given time and what he's planning to do next. Today's an up day I can feel it already.
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http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php
Here you see two times he kids are at karate....i think at different places and you see the licene plate from the SUV from Nevada ?
Some posted it at the comments from the video.
Are they in Las Vegas ?
Doesn't MJ have a black SUV? Maybe the bodyguards are driving his car, although that seems weird. Or maybe a family member is driving MJ's car & dropping the kids off. Or maybe MJ himself is. Does MJ's car have Nevada plates? If not, then that is definitely ODD. & also it's interesting how the camera person focuses on the license plate for a second. What if they ARE living in Vegas & NOT with Katherine. Did the car that dropped the kids off at the restaurant have Nevada plates too? & doesn't Joe live in Vegas? We could be on to something. We haven't seen the kids with Katherine, aside from in the very beginning when she was shopping with Paris & then now at the restaurant. Other than that the only other times were at the memorial & the burial. Every other time they have been with cousins, bodyguards, Grace, Joe & Liz. Something's fishy.... ;) I wonder where they stay. Maybe they go back & forth between places. Either we're on to something or we're reading too much into this. Maybe they go to Vegas sometimes to visit Joe even though they're not supposed to. & then they stay in Cali. & just because they're staying in Cali doesn't mean they're with Katherine. Hmmm...
I know Jackie got a house in Vegas too with his fine self. :D Marlon live in Atlanta, Janet she got a few houses. I think one in NY, LA, and at one point I believe she also lived in Atanta but maybe not now since her break up. I have no idea where Latoya lives and I guess Jermaine, Tito, and Randy live in LA area. I don't know where Rebbie lives. She must live in Cali too. So I guess the kids have some options where they could go. I know Jermaine and Marlon travel alot especially Marlon he got that special project in the motherland Africa. The real estate business. They got mass cousins too that probably got houses since most of them are grown adults. The Jacksons got a lot of family members. That's a big family. MJ might be up in one of their houses laying low who knows.
Jackie fine on this pic he's cut:
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http://x17video.com/celebrity_video/michael_jackson/x17_xclusive_michael_jacksons_2.php
Here you see two times he kids are at karate....i think at different places and you see the licene plate from the SUV from Nevada ?
Some posted it at the comments from the video.
Are they in Las Vegas ?
Doesn't MJ have a black SUV? Maybe the bodyguards are driving his car, although that seems weird. Or maybe a family member is driving MJ's car & dropping the kids off. Or maybe MJ himself is. Does MJ's car have Nevada plates? If not, then that is definitely ODD. & also it's interesting how the camera person focuses on the license plate for a second. What if they ARE living in Vegas & NOT with Katherine. Did the car that dropped the kids off at the restaurant have Nevada plates too? & doesn't Joe live in Vegas? We could be on to something. We haven't seen the kids with Katherine, aside from in the very beginning when she was shopping with Paris & then now at the restaurant. Other than that the only other times were at the memorial & the burial. Every other time they have been with cousins, bodyguards, Grace, Joe & Liz. Something's fishy.... ;) I wonder where they stay. Maybe they go back & forth between places. Either we're on to something or we're reading too much into this. Maybe they go to Vegas sometimes to visit Joe even though they're not supposed to. & then they stay in Cali. & just because they're staying in Cali doesn't mean they're with Katherine. Hmmm...
I know Jackie got a house in Vegas too with his fine self. :D Marlon live in Atlanta, Janet she got a few houses. I think one in NY, LA, and at one point I believe she also lived in Atanta but maybe not now since her break up. I have no idea where Latoya lives and I guess Jermaine, Tito, and Randy live in LA area. I don't know where Rebbie lives. She must live in Cali too. So I guess the kids have some options where they could go. I know Jermaine and Marlon travel alot especially Marlon he got that special project in the motherland Africa. The real estate business. They got mass cousins too that probably got houses since most of them are grown adults. The Jacksons got a lot of family members. That's a big family. MJ might be up in one of their houses laying low who knows.
Jackie fine on this pic he's cut:
i believe rebbie and joe live in las vegas. and janet owns a home there.
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dang how old is Jackie again? :lol: :lol: :lol: he could give these youngins a run for their money :lol: :lol: 8-)
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dang how old is Jackie again? :lol: :lol: :lol: he could give these youngins a run for their money :lol: :lol: 8-)
Jackie is like 59 years old almost 60 and he still got swagger. :D
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its true the age well
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Wow those kids are growing up so fast. I wonder when Blanket will start getting tired of people saying he looks like a girl and want his hair cut. It never fails. Happens all the time.
:D I enjoy his long hair