Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: juliet on April 17, 2010, 07:20:15 AM
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I have been keeping my thoughts for some time & I have to let it out & ask you guys about your opinions. No bashing, be kind ,OK
In the O2 conference, He said something like "This is gonna be my last show". (corrected to-These will be my final show performances-Thanks guys for the correction ;) )
The 1st "This is gonna be my last show":
It dawned on me that he said the same thing in his last concert with his brothers as J5 where his father Joe was really so mad cause Michael stood up to go solo.Then he moved out of the family house into His Neverland where he was able to do things as Michael Jackson out of the reins of his father & J5 and the following events like getting married,etc. everyone knows.
The 2nd "This is gonna be my last show":
In the O2 Conference, he said the same thing. So, I was thinking that IMO, NOW he has complete control, no one to tell him what to do or when/where. No more pushing/exploiting/abusing his kindness, generosity & being trustworthy anymore. He has stood up as THE Michael Jackson where no one can use/abuse him anymore.He is wiser now & that is also the Change that he has gone through to face all of these people.
As in the 1st "This is gonna be my last show", he moved into HIS NEVERLAND, then IMO, now he is also in NEVERLAND. All newsfeeds, photos of Neverland being deserted - IMO is what they want us to see/think.
As everybody knows, I definitely believe that he's alive taking full control of everything.
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I find it interesting also. There has been no news at all about Neverland, pictures or anything, other than the private concert Oranthi (sp?) did the other day, but again no information or pictures from this event. We still don't know what the concrete was for or who is staying there now. Hmm.....
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I find it interesting also. There has been no news at all about Neverland, pictures or anything, other than the private concert Oranthi (sp?) did the other day, but again no information or pictures from this event. We still don't know what the concrete was for or who is staying there now. Hmm.....
maybe Michael IS hiding in Neverland... :?
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
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In the beginning, in the old board(MJKIT) one of the clues posted in was PRINCESS GRACE. My thought on this clue I kept to myself to keep MICHAEL safe. I really thought in the beginning that Michael was in Graceland. PRINCESS=Lisa MP,who I thought was helping him for a while, GRACE=is the name of Elvis' mother where GRACELAND was named after.
Then, after sometime, he moved back into NEVERLAND.
After breaking off from J5, going SOLO, living in NEVERLAND, he was able to create/think better where all his Hits/Awards came.
I believe that after the O2 conference, speaking in parallelism, He will come out again with record breaking ideas/concepts, where no entertainment industry/business lawyers & the like, to deride him or make use/abuse/exploit him because I believe that now HE IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL - He's the BIG BOSS & everybody will just be surprised to find that out.
So, I'm just waiting & Michael wants us to BELIEVE (IMO)that he can do this for
1)his fans mainly because without his fans - as he always says there is no Michael;
2)for his charity works &
3)to make this world a better place to live in.
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
Thanks & I stand corrected but I do hope my thoughts/message are well explained to be understood.
Again Thank you HUG ;) ;) ;)
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It could be, but I have the feeling that he was giving clues about his close 'death'. I think he wanted to let us know that that was his last time in public/on stage, especially because he repeated this is it all the time.
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
'These will be my final show performances'
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
'These will be my final show performances'
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Thanks & HUGS ;) ;) ;)
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
MJ did say "These will be my final shows and performances in London." Also, in the book " The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story," he said in Los Angeles Dec. 9, 1984, "This is our last and final show. It's been a long twenty years and we love you all."
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
MJ did say "These will be my final shows and performances in London." Also, in the book " The Magic, The Madness, The Whole Story," he said in Los Angeles Dec. 9, 1984, "This is our last and final show. It's been a long twenty years and we love you all."
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Thanks for your post HUG ;) ;) ;)
"These will be my final shows & performances in London"
"This is our last & final show"
Again, thanks
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Are you sure it is THIS...I thought it was THESE will be my last shows, this is it, the final curtain call.
Thanks & I stand corrected but I do hope my thoughts/message are well explained to be understood.
Again Thank you HUG ;) ;) ;)
Your welcome and yes i forgot exactly the way he worded it but was almost certain it was THESE.
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I find it interesting also. There has been no news at all about Neverland, pictures or anything, other than the private concert Oranthi (sp?) did the other day, but again no information or pictures from this event. We still don't know what the concrete was for or who is staying there now. Hmm.....
maybe Michael IS hiding in Neverland... :?
here is my thread about Michael being in Neverland: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5227 and i believe he is hiding in Neverland. nice thoughts Juliet, i agree with you 100%.
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If he's hiding at Neverland, why Jermaine slip up the word " airport". You have to take flight from L.A to Neverland ?
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strange that he said his final show in london? or does it mean only in london?
was he sending a message out to randy phillips that he would not do the 3 year world tour? is that why he was giggling a bit?
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If he's hiding at Neverland, why Jermaine slip up the word " airport". You have to take flight from L.A to Neverland ?
Sure he could have gone via HELICOPTER ride
Still would mean he would be in the AIR!!!
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If he's hiding at Neverland, why Jermaine slip up the word " airport". You have to take flight from L.A to Neverland ?
Sure he could have gone via HELICOPTER ride
Still would mean he would be in the AIR!!!
Oh yeah, of course ;) Thanks ! :)
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I really don't know what to think about Neverland.
I always thought that Michael disliked the place after the trial. That it was not the same Neverland anymore, that the innocence of the place has been taken away.
Then there is this ghost we saw on CNN. Makes us think of "Threatened". To me it represent the beggining of the story:
"The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that's the case
Never Neverland, that's the place"
There is also the concrete that was brought there but why ? What do we do with concrete ?
It's a construction material. "Concrete solidifies and hardens after mixing with water and placement due to a chemical process known as hydration. The water reacts with the cement, which bonds the other components together, eventually creating a stone-like material.
The word concrete (wiki):
"The word concrete comes from the Latin word "concretus" (meaning compact or condensed), the past participle of "concresco", from "com-" (together) and "cresco" (to grow)."
Come together.
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I remember in the Movie MAN IN THE MIRROR, there was a part where they(the children,Katherine & bodyguard) were watching the TV news on the 9/11 bombing.
They were not in NEVERLAND at that time & Michael as soon as the news was on 9/11 bombing,he told his mother that the kids should not view the news & he said that they should go back to NEVERLAND.
So, IMO, Neverland is the safest place where Michael & his children can be.Can you imagine, no newsfeeds/vids/pics - really inaccessible to the public.
And immediately after the JUNE 25 news, LK interviewed Jermaine in Neverland & the places/locations inside Neverland were the only places/locations they would want us to see. But the hint is there- IMO
While I watching the Movie MAN IN THE MIRROR, I was crying,brought tears to my & my heart was aching for Michael terribly. You must go & watch if you can
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@Juliet
Yes! You must be right! And the GHOST of Michael was there! OMG! We thought they were crazy but they were just giving us clues! The truth was in front of our eyes byt we refused to see it.
Remember rumours abour We are the World for Haiti being recorded at Neverland?
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@Juliet
Yes! You must be right! And the GHOST of Michael was there! OMG! We thought they were crazy but they were just giving us clues! The truth was in front of our eyes byt we refused to see it.
Remember rumours abour We are the World for Haiti being recorded at Neverland?
I really believe that NEVERLAND is where he is making/creating/editing everything. He is in control now of everything, all in one place - shootings/recordings - everything is there,you name it. Michael is soooo wise.
He's the BOSS now & no one can boss him around anymore.
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@Juliet
Yes! You must be right! And the GHOST of Michael was there! OMG! We thought they were crazy but they were just giving us clues! The truth was in front of our eyes byt we refused to see it.
Remember rumours abour We are the World for Haiti being recorded at Neverland?
I really believe that NEVERLAND is where he is making/creating/editing everything. He is in control now of everything, all in one place - shootings/recordings - everything is there,you name it. Michael is soooo wise.
He's the BOSS now & no one can boss him around anymore.
:geek:
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In the beginning, in the old board(MJKIT) one of the clues posted in was PRINCESS GRACE. My thought on this clue I kept to myself to keep MICHAEL safe. I really thought in the beginning that Michael was in Graceland. PRINCESS=Lisa MP,who I thought was helping him for a while, GRACE=is the name of Elvis' mother where GRACELAND was named after.
Then, after sometime, he moved back into NEVERLAND.
After breaking off from J5, going SOLO, living in NEVERLAND, he was able to create/think better where all his Hits/Awards came.
I believe that after the O2 conference, speaking in parallelism, He will come out again with record breaking ideas/concepts, where no entertainment industry/business lawyers & the like, to deride him or make use/abuse/exploit him because I believe that now HE IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL - He's the BIG BOSS & everybody will just be surprised to find that out.
So, I'm just waiting & Michael wants us to BELIEVE (IMO)that he can do this for
1)his fans mainly because without his fans - as he always says there is no Michael;
2)for his charity works &
3)to make this world a better place to live in.
Sorry to disagree with you but his moms name was Gladys. The Princess Grace clue made me think of Monaco where Princess Stephanie lives. She was rumored to have had a thing with MJ.
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In the beginning, in the old board(MJKIT) one of the clues posted in was PRINCESS GRACE. My thought on this clue I kept to myself to keep MICHAEL safe. I really thought in the beginning that Michael was in Graceland. PRINCESS=Lisa MP,who I thought was helping him for a while, GRACE=is the name of Elvis' mother where GRACELAND was named after.
Sorry to disagree with you but his moms name was Gladys. The Princess Grace clue made me think of Monaco where Princess Stephanie lives. She was rumored to have had a thing with MJ.
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Thank you for the info. ;) ;) ;) HUG
I know that His mom's name is Gladys but his real mom is Grace.
I got my info from what my parents have told me that Graceland was named after his mother Grace.
There are diff. infos in the net now that I've checked about GRACELAND:
1) from WIKIPEDIA
Graceland Farms was originally owned by S.C. Toof, founder of S.C. Toof & Co., a commercial printing firm in Memphis, who was previously the pressroom foreman of the Memphis newspaper, the Memphis Daily Appeal. The grounds were named after Toof's daughter, Grace, who inherited the farm. Soon after, the portion of the land designated as Graceland today was given to her nephews and niece. It was Grace Toof's niece, Ruth Moore, who, in 1939 together with her husband Dr. Thomas Moore, built present American "colonial" style mansion
2)from Yahoo Search list
How to Visit Graceland | eHow.com
The mansion, built by Elvis Presley and named after his mother Grace, is located in... Elvis Presley, rock and roll icon, passed away in 1977 and was buried at Graceland, his ...
3) from Wikiality.wikia.com
Childhood
he had a sister with the name of alex ylgadsak Elvis was born in 1935 somewhere in NASCAR country. Elvis was the illegitimate child of George Washington and his cleaning lady, Grace Presley
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In the beginning, in the old board(MJKIT) one of the clues posted in was PRINCESS GRACE. My thought on this clue I kept to myself to keep MICHAEL safe. I really thought in the beginning that Michael was in Graceland. PRINCESS=Lisa MP,who I thought was helping him for a while, GRACE=is the name of Elvis' mother where GRACELAND was named after.
Then, after sometime, he moved back into NEVERLAND.
After breaking off from J5, going SOLO, living in NEVERLAND, he was able to create/think better where all his Hits/Awards came.
I believe that after the O2 conference, speaking in parallelism, He will come out again with record breaking ideas/concepts, where no entertainment industry/business lawyers & the like, to deride him or make use/abuse/exploit him because I believe that now HE IS IN COMPLETE CONTROL - He's the BIG BOSS & everybody will just be surprised to find that out.
So, I'm just waiting & Michael wants us to BELIEVE (IMO)that he can do this for
1)his fans mainly because without his fans - as he always says there is no Michael;
2)for his charity works &
3)to make this world a better place to live in.
Sorry to disagree with you but his moms name was Gladys. The Princess Grace clue made me think of Monaco where Princess Stephanie lives. She was rumored to have had a thing with MJ.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :?: :?: :?:
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I remember in the Movie MAN IN THE MIRROR, there was a part where they(the children,Katherine & bodyguard) were watching the TV news on the 9/11 bombing.
They were not in NEVERLAND at that time & Michael as soon as the news was on 9/11 bombing,he told his mother that the kids should not view the news & he said that they should go back to NEVERLAND.
So, IMO, Neverland is the safest place where Michael & his children can be.Can you imagine, no newsfeeds/vids/pics - really inaccessible to the public.
And immediately after the JUNE 25 news, LK interviewed Jermaine in Neverland & the places/locations inside Neverland were the only places/locations they would want us to see. But the hint is there- IMO
While I watching the Movie MAN IN THE MIRROR, I was crying,brought tears to my & my heart was aching for Michael terribly. You must go & watch if you can
Well then we didnt see the same movie. That horrible actor, Flex alexander, who cant even dance for a second and talks like a retard, made MJ look like a complete and retarded asshole. I was pissed and angry when it first aired back then. But then again when MJ "died" and they played that crap again, I watched it cause anything reminding me Michael was good to be taken.
But let s be honest Flex and the whole movie is an insult to our King.
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Well then we didnt see the same movie. That horrible actor, Flex alexander, who cant even dance for a second and talks like a retard, made MJ look like a complete and retarded asshole. I was pissed and angry when it first aired back then. But then again when MJ "died" and they played that crap again, I watched it cause anything reminding me Michael was good to be taken.
But let s be honest Flex and the whole movie is an insult to our King.
Agreed. The way they did the make-up was disturbing. this film came off to me as a parody... :evil:
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I think that MJ wanted to do This is It as his final concert before going into retirement but thing got out of control and his management was signing him up for more than what he wanted to do and he that when he started to stress and lose weight and he then realize that AEG and his management team didn't care if he died while trying to get ready for the shows so he had no choice if he stayed it would have kill him if he didn't they would ruin him so he made a choice to fake his death but if left enough evidence to explain why he did it.I just hope that this will end well for him he has been through enough in his life I hope he final gets some peace he deserves.
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I totally agree with you guys about the actor for The Man In The Mirror, but I cried while I was watching it because it's Michael's Story.
I don't think anybody would ever be able to portray Michael because Michael is Michael, can't be replicated.
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My opinion of that movie the man in the mirror is that it was so bad that I found it difficult to watch. There was no substance to the characters. a real B grade movie with bad acting and it portrayed Michael as a one dimensional repressed child in a man. Bad.
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Sarahli, I think that you are on to something. where would you go where you know the media will not find you. The last place that the media will look. NEVER NEVERLAND THAT'S THE PLACE. Michael knows now that in order to being control, he has to make this journey and come to a complete circle. As it was stated rewinding the tape back to where it all began. The song Threatened tells the story, if anyone looking for the reason for this. Now think about this what is the purpose of delivering concrete to Never Neverland. What is concrete used for, ??? building a foundation, mmmm,you would say , a foundation for what?
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I find it interesting also. There has been no news at all about Neverland, pictures or anything, other than the private concert Oranthi (sp?) did the other day, but again no information or pictures from this event. We still don't know what the concrete was for or who is staying there now. Hmm.....
don't forget, she even deleted the tweet about that gig at Neverland
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When MJ announced that it will be his final shows now looking back it takes on a totally new meaning. He also kept saying this is the final curtain call. He had that look on his face like this is really it guys I'm done. However at the time people didn't realize that he really meant that he was done with the business and being in the public eye. I think he was saying goodbye to everyone that day in his own way. That's how I feel about it. Also the title of the tour just happen to be This is it. It just seems to ironic. I feel like MJ went out his own way on his own terms and whatever happens in the future will be up to him. I personally think MJ planned everything. Even confusing people with his appearance. I think he may have been wearing some special make up that day. Also the fact that he was telling people goodbye according to friends and he met with Andre Crouch from what I hear. Andre Crouch and his choir sang at his memorial. Just seem planned to me. Whatever his reason for leaving it had to be a good one.
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When MJ announced that it will be his final shows now looking back it takes on a totally new meaning. He also kept saying this is the final curtain call. He had that look on his face like this is really it guys I'm done. However at the time people didn't realize that he really meant that he was done with the business and being in the public eye. I think he was saying goodbye to everyone that day in his own way. That's how I feel about it. Also the title of the tour just happen to be This is it. It just seems to ironic. I feel like MJ went out his own way on his own terms and whatever happens in the future will be up to him. I personally think MJ planned everything. Even confusing people with his appearance. I think he may have been wearing some special make up that day. Also the fact that he was telling people goodbye according to friends and he met with Andre Crouch from what I hear. Andre Crouch and his choir sang at his memorial. Just seem planned to me. Whatever his reason for leaving it had to be a good one.
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Same thoughts as the sentences I underlined.
Thanks.
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juliet said: I totally agree with you guys about the actor for The Man In The Mirror, but I cried while I was watching it because it's Michael's Story.
I don't think anybody would ever be able to portray Michael because Michael is Michael, can't be replicated.
Agree,The same was with me, i couldnt help crying while watching it, cause no matter how tasteless and bad the film is, it's about our Michael' s life, his story,the trial, but to tell the truth, the film was rather bad, nothing to do with Michael, not at all, the act was aweful as well as his potrayal as a naive kid in a grown-up man's body, whatsever i enjoy wathching everything conncted with Mike.
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My opinion of that movie the man in the mirror is that it was so bad that I found it difficult to watch. There was no substance to the characters. a real B grade movie with bad acting and it portrayed Michael as a one dimensional repressed child in a man. Bad.
I'd watched it and I really didn't like either. I can't believe that Flex Alexander played the part. The only character that played their part well was the man who portrayed Joe Jackson. Katherine Jackson character didn't walk with a limp. This was a film that MJ didn't approve of and that's they couldn't use his music.
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I have been keeping my thoughts for some time & I have to let it out & ask you guys about your opinions. No bashing, be kind ,OK
In the O2 conference, He said something like "This is gonna be my last show". (corrected to-These will be my final show performances-Thanks guys for the correction ;) )
The 1st "This is gonna be my last show":
It dawned on me that he said the same thing in his last concert with his brothers as J5 where his father Joe was really so mad cause Michael stood up to go solo.Then he moved out of the family house into His Neverland where he was able to do things as Michael Jackson out of the reins of his father & J5 and the following events like getting married,etc. everyone knows.
The 2nd "This is gonna be my last show":
In the O2 Conference, he said the same thing. So, I was thinking that IMO, NOW he has complete control, no one to tell him what to do or when/where. No more pushing/exploiting/abusing his kindness, generosity & being trustworthy anymore. He has stood up as THE Michael Jackson where no one can use/abuse him anymore.He is wiser now & that is also the Change that he has gone through to face all of these people.
As in the 1st "This is gonna be my last show", he moved into HIS NEVERLAND, then IMO, now he is also in NEVERLAND. All newsfeeds, photos of Neverland being deserted - IMO is what they want us to see/think.
As everybody knows, I definitely believe that he's alive taking full control of everything.
I really hope all your feelings are so true!! I want him back so bad! Not just for us but for his family and friends. Just to know hes here and Ok would be fine by me. thanks for your post!
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LOVERATHEART4MJ, I do miss Michael sooo very much. We are all longing for him & I can't imagine what he's going through now with all the newsfeeds.
Here's a big HUG for you