Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Theories => The Double Theory => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on April 16, 2010, 10:43:56 PM
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See the fake glove again. This is the same person who was at the 02 announcement. Plans were set in motion before the 25th to give the fake death theory some credibility. MJ seen at Dr's 7 days before his death.
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The pic of Michael at the doctors office, that's NO glove, it's his hand. And it IS Michael, look at his fingers.
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i agree it's definetly a glove, if you zoom in on the pics it's pretty easy to see
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kvYJOjDaKfI/S8CblRRrzUI/AAAAAAAAAyA/7psDOaxsEl0/s1600/mysterydoctor.jpg
See the fake glove again. This is the same person who was at the 02 announcement. Plans were set in motion before the 25th to give the fake death theory some credibility. MJ seen at Dr's 7 days before his death.
Michael is wearing a red bracelet on his left wrist and a light coloured, beaded bracelet on his right. The pictures you have posted have been tampered with. Those are his hands, not gloves...
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/O2%20Press%20Conference/michael-jackson-comeback-tour-03.jpg)
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Who would tamper with these photos of 02 announcement and why??????? Is it the person who made the video??????? As always, with love xox
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Who would tamper with these photos of 02 announcement and why??????? Is it the person who made the video??????? As always, with love xox
I have no idea why this would have been done. But the colour in the picture, in the OP, is very different than the pictures I have from the O2. I have more pictures and you can see the bracelets in a few of them.
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I've seen all the pictures too, and never noticed it before. I will post the youtube video where I saw the initial picures. With L.O.V.E xox[youtube:2v7k5b3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NeudLIbTV4&feature=related[/youtube:2v7k5b3s]
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I've seen all the pictures too, and never noticed it before. I will post the youtube video where I saw the initial picures. With L.O.V.E xox
Not trying to be rude or anything but obviously, you want beLIEve that these are gloves. No matter what I say or post it won't change that. I will just state again that Michael has a bracelet on each wrist. A red one on his left and a light coloured one on his right. Nothing much else to say about it. In my opinion case closed but we all have freedom of choice so choose as you like.
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I've seen all the pictures too, and never noticed it before. I will post the youtube video where I saw the initial picures. With L.O.V.E xox
Not trying to be rude or anything but obviously, you want beLIEve that these are gloves. No matter what I say or post it won't change that. I will just state again that Michael has a bracelet on each wrist. A red one on his left and a light coloured one on his right. Nothing much else to say about it. In my opinion case closed but we all have freedom of choice so choose as you like.
I agree 100 %, it's just his bracelets.
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I've seen all the pictures too, and never noticed it before. I will post the youtube video where I saw the initial picures. With L.O.V.E xox
Not trying to be rude or anything but obviously, you want beLIEve that these are gloves. No matter what I say or post it won't change that. I will just state again that Michael has a bracelet on each wrist. A red one on his left and a light coloured one on his right. Nothing much else to say about it. In my opinion case closed but we all have freedom of choice so choose as you like.
I agree 100 %, it's just his bracelets.
Agreed. Definitely not gloves.
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I've seen all the pictures too, and never noticed it before. I will post the youtube video where I saw the initial picures. With L.O.V.E xox[youtube:qk1saba6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NeudLIbTV4&feature=related[/youtube:qk1saba6]
there is a whole well nearly a whole thread on ernest - think it is the one called the concerts were going to happen
but it was mike at the 02, the hands doubles thing i think had been done and also he had ink on his hands
the legs has been down
ernest is bow legged and mike is knock kneed
ernestly hips are very narrow and mikes has a bit more shape
mike has a butt but ernest - bless him is flatter - you can see that when he dances and moves around
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We remember that O2 pictures were few in the beginning and some time later there were lots available on mjjjpictures.com. We had hard times to find any fan pictures though.
So majority of the pics available are the photoshopped ones on mjjpictures.com. There are a few there however where the sloppy and unprofessional photoshopping was forgotten or not applied on purpose.
And yes, there are some pictures you should look at in zoom and you will see the non-skin non-bracelet wrinkles of thin gloves.
Could anybody however imagine that the person there, clearly visibly suffering from a very painful arthritis in his finger joints could be in need of a permanent cortison and pain relief salve that would require thin gloves?
With L.O.V.E.
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how come in close up pix you can see the markings on his hands then - the lines, the ink, the bump on his pinky - this has all been said so many times.
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Maybe they shot not all pics at the occasion but later or before?
2 times on stage? ;-)
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well if we look on YT it was only once he was on stage, the fans waited 1 1/2 hours for him, heard he did not want to go - but was forced to.
so no other sessions - it would have been posted by the fans on YT
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its good to explore all the theories and test them and i thank you for posting
but i think the assumption is wrong but thats fine - that's how we get to the truth - so well done
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See the different lines of the glove and the bracelet below:
[attachment=2:lwiq7yr9]107_hand.jpg[/attachment:lwiq7yr9]
[attachment=1:lwiq7yr9]107_500.jpg[/attachment:lwiq7yr9]
Yet whoever publishes pictures may 1) determine when to take them, 2) how he alters them 3) when / where he publishes them.
If they are all from "1 event" and published on one site this does not mean that they have been taken only at the so said "1 event". There may have been rehearsals for the announcement too.
And - a red curtain is standard equipment in a photo studio.
The announcement stage was a small embarrassing environment for THE man in pop music if you look at the pictures from the opposed side of the hall.
IMHO it was a photo shooting event - see how many filming and professional camera equipments were installed even on the opposite balcony.
The curtain for Michael had the same size as the O in O2 logo.
What a poor presentation.
[attachment=0:lwiq7yr9]363_700.jpg[/attachment:lwiq7yr9]
Credit goes to mjjpictures.com - unfortunately the link to the original is not feasible here due to picture size limitations. To check the big originals, pls visit the site.
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See the different lines of the glove and the bracelet below:
[attachment=2:3qdg23ea]107_hand.jpg[/attachment:3qdg23ea]
[attachment=1:3qdg23ea]107_500.jpg[/attachment:3qdg23ea]
Yet whoever publishes pictures may 1) determine when to take them, 2) how he alters them 3) when / where he publishes them.
If they are all from "1 event" and published on one site this does not mean that they have been taken only at the so said "1 event". There may have been rehearsals for the announcement too.
And - a red curtain is standard equipment in a photo studio.
The announcement stage was a small embarrassing environment for THE man in pop music if you look at the pictures from the opposed side of the hall.
IMHO it was a photo shooting event - see how many filming and professional camera equipments were installed even on the opposite balcony.
The curtain for Michael had the same size as the O in O2 logo.
What a poor presentation.
[attachment=0:3qdg23ea]363_700.jpg[/attachment:3qdg23ea]
Credit goes to mjjpictures.com - unfortunately the link to the original is not feasible here due to picture size limitations. To check the big originals, pls visit the site.
It's just wrinkles at his handwrist.
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No. Look closely. The colours are completely different.
The wrinkles at his wrist don't fit the wrinkles of the hand.
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No. Look closely. The colours are completely different.
The wrinkles at his wrist don't fit the wrinkles of the hand.
Yes, I can see that now, but my coulor inside my hand is not the same as the other side of my hand... maybe that's it ? if it's a glove, then it's a super thin glove with nails on and everything, or so thin, that the nails are visible...I really can't see the point in wearing that.
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Ok, now please someone explain me something:
IF this was a double at O2, and a DOUBLE, NOT MICHAEL, ANNOUNCED "See you in July"
then
WHY ARE WE STILL HERE?
Why do we believe a DOUBLE not Michael?
Why do we assume, on what basis, that this comeback will be in July???
Are we that stupid to believe a double?
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Ok, now please someone explain me something:
IF this was a double at O2, and a DOUBLE, NOT MICHAEL, ANNOUNCED "See you in July"
then
WHY ARE WE STILL HERE?
Why do we believe a DOUBLE not Michael?
Why do we assume, on what basis, that this comeback will be in July???
Are we that stupid to believe a double?
I have never believed it was a double, but I see your point. I have always believed, that Michael only used doubles to get away from fans and stuff.
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No. Look closely. The colours are completely different.
The wrinkles at his wrist don't fit the wrinkles of the hand.
Yes, I can see that now, but my coulor inside my hand is not the same as the other side of my hand... maybe that's it ? if it's a glove, then it's a super thin glove with nails on and everything, or so thin, that the nails are visible...I really can't see the point in wearing that.
Again, the only plausible reason for it is a medical treatment IMO.
As you said, it is so thin that you do see the colour of the nails.
And the colour is not a naturally lighter palm but it is the same colour all over the glove.
Look closely.
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It does look like a glove to me too. I don't know how this 02 double thing fits to the hoax but there is so much not right about 02 MJ. Evenif it does turn out to be the real MJ all along, there is something very odd about that whole appearance.
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i said right at the start many months ago i thought they were gloves but then turned round to thinking it was part of the bracelet but now i am thinking gloves again.
when you showed at the start of the post mj hand at ht edoc and how long and slender his fingers are they are not matching the 02 hand.
Back to confused a little more but they are not the same hand
I so want Michael to out think them.
He looks so strong there how can that not be his real charactor ready to fight sony.
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i said right at the start many months ago i thought they were gloves but then turned round to thinking it was part of the bracelet but now i am thinking gloves again.
when you showed at the start of the post mj hand at ht edoc and how long and slender his fingers are they are not matching the 02 hand.
Back to confused a little more but they are not the same hand
I so want Michael to out think them.
He looks so strong there how can that not be his real charactor ready to fight sony.
i think it's the same hands, but the pic from the doctors office, is after the o2 conference, and he had lost much more weight there.So his fingers looked longer and thinner. He has big hands, and they will look longer and thinner, cause his bones do not get smaller.
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kvYJOjDaKfI/S8CblRRrzUI/AAAAAAAAAyA/7psDOaxsEl0/s1600/mysterydoctor.jpg
See the fake glove again. This is the same person who was at the 02 announcement. Plans were set in motion before the 25th to give the fake death theory some credibility. MJ seen at Dr's 7 days before his death.
we are talking about propofol. i do believe he faked his death. but you do not need to be sick or look sick to believe someone died on propofol. it could take out the healthiest person if given too much.
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see this hands he is not wearing gloves
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I saw those as well and as the face was so badly photoshopped, my next conclusion was that the hands on some photos were also photoshopped.
I did however not find any picture to date that would indicate - other than some with gloves, others without gloves - that the announcement was photographed on two occasions.
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so your theory is that mike02 is fake because the 02 mike had gloves on?
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Arabian NIghts, no. I think they messed with photoshopping.
Why they did it in that desastrous quality however is astounding since I would assume that AEG and Michael and all other parties involved had enough money to pay good graphic designer work.
If they could do an ambulance picture - how come they could not properly do the O2 pictures.
Enlarge them to 300% and you'll see what I mean.
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ok then take stills from YT and see what you get?
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Both are Michael and i wont believe anything else
The 02 picture definately been played with. I have seen many pics and never has the "glove look" been so noticable. Dont know what someone is trying to pull there
That last batch of pics you can clearly see MICHAEL'S hands...no glove at all
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See the different lines of the glove and the bracelet below:
[attachment=2:uh9gmnje]107_hand.jpg[/attachment:uh9gmnje]
[attachment=1:uh9gmnje]107_500.jpg[/attachment:uh9gmnje]
Yet whoever publishes pictures may 1) determine when to take them, 2) how he alters them 3) when / where he publishes them.
If they are all from "1 event" and published on one site this does not mean that they have been taken only at the so said "1 event". There may have been rehearsals for the announcement too.
And - a red curtain is standard equipment in a photo studio.
The announcement stage was a small embarrassing environment for THE man in pop music if you look at the pictures from the opposed side of the hall.
IMHO it was a photo shooting event - see how many filming and professional camera equipments were installed even on the opposite balcony.
The curtain for Michael had the same size as the O in O2 logo.
What a poor presentation.
[attachment=0:uh9gmnje]363_700.jpg[/attachment:uh9gmnje]
Credit goes to mjjpictures.com - unfortunately the link to the original is not feasible here due to picture size limitations. To check the big originals, pls visit the site.
Sorry, that is not a glove it is just his hand. I am a bit older myself and even though my face my not reveal my true age...the hands don't lie. When I put my hand in the same position as in the photo you have used, I also have similar wrinkles which appear where my hand joins the wrist.
"To tell someone's true age, look at their hands. Whereas people use a variety of anti-aging treatments on their faces, the hands are often neglected. Even people with virtually wrinkle-free faces due to cosmetic surgery will likely have wrinkles on their hands."
Michael may also have dry skin on his hands from applying Benoquin that he uses to treat his Vitiligo. He would have to apply it and rub it in with his hands. I know from applying creams, lotions etc myself that even if you wash your hands immediately after applying them, they can still have some affect on the hands. Now think about it, Michael is applying this medicated ointment, to a large area of his body, 2-3 times a day. One of the side effects is DRY SKIN, it is going to affect the skin on his hands and most likely cause them to be dry. Dry skin appears more wrinkly that soft, supple skin.
BRAND NAME(S): Benoquin
USES: Monobenzone is used to treat the loss of skin color (vitiligo).
HOW TO USE: This medication is for use on the skin only. Apply a thin layer of the medication two or three times daily to colored skin.
SIDE EFFECTS:Dry skin, burning, irritation, redness, cracking or peeling of the skin may occur.
http://www.medicinenet.com/monobenzone-topical/article.htm
Again, not a glove and I know that it was Michael at the O2 anyway so why would he need transparent gloves on. Makes no sense really.
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It is Michael at O2, and it doesn't look like he's wearing a glove.
(http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/mirror-images/this-is-it-michael-jackson-press-conference-450-943437956.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01360/michael_jackson_o2_1360976c.jpg)
[attachment=0:3u2j2g6t]o2.jpg[/attachment:3u2j2g6t]
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See the different lines of the glove and the bracelet below:
[attachment=2:3b0pavrs]107_hand.jpg[/attachment:3b0pavrs]
[attachment=1:3b0pavrs]107_500.jpg[/attachment:3b0pavrs]
Yet whoever publishes pictures may 1) determine when to take them, 2) how he alters them 3) when / where he publishes them.
If they are all from "1 event" and published on one site this does not mean that they have been taken only at the so said "1 event". There may have been rehearsals for the announcement too.
And - a red curtain is standard equipment in a photo studio.
The announcement stage was a small embarrassing environment for THE man in pop music if you look at the pictures from the opposed side of the hall.
IMHO it was a photo shooting event - see how many filming and professional camera equipments were installed even on the opposite balcony.
The curtain for Michael had the same size as the O in O2 logo.
What a poor presentation.
[attachment=0:3b0pavrs]363_700.jpg[/attachment:3b0pavrs]
Credit goes to mjjpictures.com - unfortunately the link to the original is not feasible here due to picture size limitations. To check the big originals, pls visit the site.
Sorry, that is not a glove it is just his hand. I am a bit older myself and even though my face my not reveal my true age...the hands don't lie. When I put my hand in the same position as in the photo you have used, I also have similar wrinkles which appear where my hand joins the wrist.
"To tell someone's true age, look at their hands. Whereas people use a variety of anti-aging treatments on their faces, the hands are often neglected. Even people with virtually wrinkle-free faces due to cosmetic surgery will likely have wrinkles on their hands."
Michael may also have dry skin on his hands from applying Benoquin that he uses to treat his Vitiligo. He would have to apply it and rub it in with his hands. I know from applying creams, lotions etc myself that even if you wash your hands immediately after applying them, they can still have some affect on the hands. Now think about it, Michael is applying this medicated ointment, to a large area of his body, 2-3 times a day. One of the side effects is DRY SKIN, it is going to affect the skin on his hands and most likely cause them to be dry. Dry skin appears more wrinkly that soft, supple skin.
BRAND NAME(S): Benoquin
USES: Monobenzone is used to treat the loss of skin color (vitiligo).
HOW TO USE: This medication is for use on the skin only. Apply a thin layer of the medication two or three times daily to colored skin.
SIDE EFFECTS:Dry skin, burning, irritation, redness, cracking or peeling of the skin may occur.
http://www.medicinenet.com/monobenzone-topical/article.htm
Again, not a glove and I know that it was Michael at the O2 anyway so why would he need transparent gloves on. Makes no sense really.
My thoughts exactly!
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Michael is wearing a red bracelet on his left wrist and a light coloured, beaded bracelet on his right. The pictures you have posted have been tampered with. Those are his hands, not gloves...
Not trying to be rude or anything but obviously, you want beLIEve that these are gloves. No matter what I say or post it won't change that.
I agree. I thought it was already debunked...
So the gloves are so tight that you can see perfectly the nails and each detail over his hands, at the same time they're so big that looks wrinkly in the wrists?. It doesn't make sense.
Look, if you wanna see gloves, you are gonna see them. That's the way your mind plays/works. I've enlarged the pics, just skin...
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i thinks its now horrible to suggest this glove theory - just my view
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One of the sets of photos have been tampered with. I think it is the batch on MJJPictures.com as I have high quality pics of Michael at O2 and there is no coloured glove just his beautiful white hands.
There could be a possiblity of a double appearing at O2 and Michael green screening an appearance later and maybe that is why sometimes we think its him and sometimes we are confused.
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Regardless who is the guy on the pictures from O2 arena, if there was a glove or no glove, or any other mark on his face, in my opinion, we cannot be 100% sure the pictures are photoshop-free.
On the contrary, I do believe, they are all photoshopped either to: cause more confusion or to make the guy look like MJ or to make MJ not to look like MJ or all of the above and much more. If that is the case, it would be difficult to draw any conclusion based on altered pictures.
Please do not forget that we have been shown the picture with photoshop going on...
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/post-8295777-12621809005B15D.jpg)
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See the different lines of the glove and the bracelet below:
[attachment=3:1w2j5vbs]107_hand.jpg[/attachment:1w2j5vbs]
[attachment=2:1w2j5vbs]107_500.jpg[/attachment:1w2j5vbs]
Yet whoever publishes pictures may 1) determine when to take them, 2) how he alters them 3) when / where he publishes them.
If they are all from "1 event" and published on one site this does not mean that they have been taken only at the so said "1 event". There may have been rehearsals for the announcement too.
And - a red curtain is standard equipment in a photo studio.
The announcement stage was a small embarrassing environment for THE man in pop music if you look at the pictures from the opposed side of the hall.
IMHO it was a photo shooting event - see how many filming and professional camera equipments were installed even on the opposite balcony.
The curtain for Michael had the same size as the O in O2 logo.
What a poor presentation.
[attachment=1:1w2j5vbs]363_700.jpg[/attachment:1w2j5vbs]
Credit goes to mjjpictures.com - unfortunately the link to the original is not feasible here due to picture size limitations. To check the big originals, pls visit the site.
That is not a GLOVE...it's a vein that is scrunched up from pursing his hands together into a peace sign along the LINE of his wrist...in this picture, of the same hand, taken on the same night and time, tell me, where is the glove? Better yet, do it to your own hand and take a look...mine does the same thing and I know I'm not wearing gloves.
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Regardless who is the guy on the pictures from O2 arena, if there was a glove or no glove, or any other mark on his face, in my opinion, we cannot be 100% sure the pictures are photoshop-free.
On the contrary, I do believe, they are all photoshopped either to: cause more confusion or to make the guy look like MJ or to make MJ not to look like MJ or all of the above and much more. If that is the case, it would be difficult to draw any conclusion based on altered pictures.
Please do not forget that we have been shown the picture with photoshop going on...
(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/post-8295777-12621809005B15D.jpg)
but i am sure you can get fan based vid's which will show hands on YT
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this is enough to give a guy, a phobia
what does your glove theory -which i politely say is wrong got to do with the hoax?
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Again that discussion about O2 conference :lol:
I truly believe it was Michael IMO but i won't argue, I'm tired to have this conversation for almost a year now
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That O2-sexbomb again... :lol:
It was a great illusion there.
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thats a good name "the gloved one" oops i think i have heard it before :lol:
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i very rarely comment, but i would like 2 say, im not really into looking out 4 doubles all the time, but in my honest opinion that was michael at the o2 :)
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I so would like to remove his sunglasses, the eyes must have it.
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It does look like a glove to me too. I don't know how this 02 double thing fits to the hoax but there is so much not right about 02 MJ. Evenif it does turn out to be the real MJ all along, there is something very odd about that whole appearance.
i actually tried that 'v-hand' and looked at my own hand. i'm 45 (similar age range) with dry and pale skin, and large hands with long fingers, so it's a good comparision, since mike was also chronically dehydrated (i can tell, very dry skin). i can produce similar lines and wrinkles at the bottom of the hand, close to the wrist. it does look like the wrinkles don't match and there is also a funny line, just like the 'glove line' that some people see here. i don't see a glove there or any hand prosthetics. maybe he had make up on his hands, too, to make them look better on tv. his hands looked kinda rough sometimes, when you look at the trial pics, for instance.
as far as the facial features go: tons of make up. very heavy stage make up, which we didn't really see him wearing before that. that make up was different from what he was wearing in private and there hasn't really been any appearance of him like that before, meaning press conference or similar.
another note: i think mike acted the way he did cuz it was the kick-off for the hoax. he was on 100% adrenalin that day, totally fired up cuz this was the day his longtime planned hoax finally got started. my take is that he has been planning this for at least 10-15 years, at least thinking about it thoroughly. 'i'll see you in july' was a true statement, referring to his memorial. he ddin't say we woud see him...but the eyes of the world were on him on july 07, 2009.
:mrgreen:
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maybe he was not kicking off the hoax, but maybe he knew that after all the pressure he had experienced in the hotel room just before - he knew that things were going to change
you note Thome was there - it does not look like a sweet person ( i dont know but...) and you can just imagine the war of words and pressure the get him out of the room, that oliver guy his turn coat friend was also there leverage? remember he was 1 1/2 hours late.
you can imagine that they said he to do the announcement and they'll talk after
he probably regreted doing the announcement - to step away from that - probably would have been better, or changing it -maybe he changed what he was going to say - maybe ...
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Maybe its time that someone started a HAND thread???
Im not sure about the doubles theory quite yet but I HAVE noticed in more then one pic that MJ's hands....joints, distance between joints and finger length seemed to be different in some pics. We need to start from Thriller...maybe even J5 era inhis teens if possible and compare....I would do it,, but I work all day and simply dont have the time.......can someone start a topic on this? You can change facial features so maybe thats why Im not convinced yet...but you CANNOT change hands either...just like the eyes..
Also....I dont think thats a glove either.
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you note Thome was there - it does not look like a sweet person ( i dont know but...) and you can just imagine the war of words and pressure the get him out of the room, that oliver guy his turn coat friend was also there leverage? remember he was 1 1/2 hours late.
you can imagine that they said he to do the announcement and they'll talk after
Arabian Nights, can you help?
Who are these guys in the hotel room that he left like wet poodles?
Managers, lawyers, all having red roses like for a wedding?
[attachment=0:2xpnqq4v]michael_jackson_5258434_20090305_leavinghotel.jpg[/attachment:2xpnqq4v]
This photo was photoshopped and put on mjjpictures.com (red curtain instead of the folks).
Who is this?
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you note Thome was there - it does not look like a sweet person ( i dont know but...) and you can just imagine the war of words and pressure the get him out of the room, that oliver guy his turn coat friend was also there leverage? remember he was 1 1/2 hours late.
you can imagine that they said he to do the announcement and they'll talk after
Arabian Nights, can you help?
Who are these guys in the hotel room that he left like wet poodles?
Managers, lawyers, all having red roses like for a wedding?
[attachment=0:3bxgt7m4]michael_jackson_5258434_20090305_leavinghotel.jpg[/attachment:3bxgt7m4]
This photo was photoshopped and put on mjjpictures.com (red curtain instead of the folks).
Who is this?
they are probably just staff at the hotel in this shot
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this is very interesting. i do believe that they were doubles used in his ''last days''. possibly because he had to do the finishing touches on the HOAX. but the glove thing does deserve it's own thread.
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
Bu he was with the kids , does that mean the kids knew it was an impersonator? HM...Looks like MJ's fingers to me as well...
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
Bu he was with the kids , does that mean the kids knew it was an impersonator? HM...Looks like MJ's fingers to me as well...
No, she believes that the kids have also doubles :shock: ...
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
Bu he was with the kids , does that mean the kids knew it was an impersonator? HM...Looks like MJ's fingers to me as well...
who knows what relationship Michael had with this Impersonator. Could of been a Family friend.
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
Bu he was with the kids , does that mean the kids knew it was an impersonator? HM...Looks like MJ's fingers to me as well...
No, she believes that the kids have also doubles :shock: ...
I sure do. ;)
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
are you saying that this pix is not mike, but he was with the kids?
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(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=6006) and that's not Michael. It's Impersonator Michael Kiss. this was de-bunked before. he is also red pants in TII. it's been de-bunked on .net
are you saying that this pix is not mike, but he was with the kids?
This IS Michael. Look at his fingers ;)
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I think this is Mike as well.
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I think this is Mike as well.
Me too.
And I really don't believe that it was Michael Kiss in TII, he doesn't even look like rp Michael to me....
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All Michael to me.
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okay, I believe that it's a glove on his RIGHT hand, but here are 2 things I don't get:
1 if it's a glove, how are the fingernails attached?
2 why is he wearing a glove that "almost" match his skin tone?
I'm so confused :!: :roll: :shock: :o :( :? :| :?:
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okay, I believe that it's a glove on his RIGHT hand, but here are 2 things I don't get:
1 if it's a glove, how are the fingernails attached?
2 why is he wearing a glove that "almost" match his skin tone?
I'm so confused :!: :roll: :shock: :o :( :? :| :?:
Same here - it really does look like a very thin glove and, if it's not photoshopped, what was the reason for it? :?:
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okay, I believe that it's a glove on his RIGHT hand, but here are 2 things I don't get:
1 if it's a glove, how are the fingernails attached?
2 why is he wearing a glove that "almost" match his skin tone?
I'm so confused :!: :roll: :shock: :o :( :? :| :?:
Same here - it really does look like a very thin glove and, if it's not photoshopped, what was the reason for it? :?:
to tell us who's the real deal and who's not.
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NO GLOVES AT ALL BUT THIN AND DEHYDRATED IMO :cry:
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aw it is no double it is MJ at o2, I can see his boyish familiarity in his smile in the first pic of the thread... :)
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again:
the o2 guy/ hand issue was widely discussed, like somewhere in here: viewtopic.php?f=99&t=6415 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=6415)
about the 'glove': as already stated correctly, mike is skinny and very possibly seriously dehydrated. when you hit a certain age (like 40+), your hands will make such a line by themselves when you 'do the V'. i am also very skinny and tend to dehydrate, so i could take a pic of my own hand, do the V and it will look just like that. no glove, no trick, no photoshop. 'it's called AGING' (unquote).
:mrgreen:
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Hmmm could it be Dave Dave? And what we see here are made up fingers/hands/skin etc..... and maybe Dave Dave died and not Michael.
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What about the ears? I'm going to make a thread later regarding this.
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What about the ears? I'm going to make a thread later regarding this.
Please don't the ears, the nose, the hands... the everything has already been dissected and discussed numerous times.
We will not agree on this.
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well after many months looking at the 02 pictures of michael I think it is Michael but it does look like he has very thin gloves on and if you watch the Jackson dynasty programes I have notices that Jermaine when he is out and touches handles on doors he gets out a tissue to open the door with so just maybe after all the touring and mixing with millions of people shaking hands and being kissed by them they feel they have to protect themselves so maybe it is for hygene reasons remember Michael was worried about swine flu
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What about the ears? I'm going to make a thread later regarding this.
Please don't the ears, the nose, the hands... the everything has already been dissected and discussed numerous times.
We will not agree on this.
How have the ears been debunked? I must have missed that one.
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What about the ears? I'm going to make a thread later regarding this.
Please don't the ears, the nose, the hands... the everything has already been dissected and discussed numerous times.
We will not agree on this.
How have the ears been debunked? I must have missed that one.
I never said debunked, I said discussed and dissected.
Poor Michael has had every inch of him looked at over and over.
There are threads on his ears somewhere on these forums already.
Here are a few...
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=6415&hilit=ears
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=8631&p=156544&hilit=ears#p156544
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=8612&p=143877&hilit=ears#p143877
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=99&t=8571&p=142122&hilit=ears#p142122
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I thought that's what you meant. Well i haven't been the one dissecting everything about him. It's just his ears, if you look at two pictures, you can see the difference. Not much to dissect. The hand thing is pretty much stretching it. So if people do dissect his appearance, what's it to you? That's what this whole website is if you think about it. It's already crossed the line. The ears keep me believing, that's all i'm saying. Love & Peace.