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Title: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 15, 2010, 07:50:31 AM
I read this article this morning and was astounded!  They are watching and trying to control everything we do.  Be careful who you trust!

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Obama Staffer Wants Cognitive Infiltration of 9/11 Conspiracy Groups

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'In a 2008 academic paper, President Barack Obama's appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs advocated "cognitive infiltration" of groups that advocate "conspiracy theories" like the ones surrounding 9/11.

Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor, co-wrote an academic article entitled "Conspiracy Theories: Causes and Cures," in which he argued that the government should stealthily infiltrate groups that pose alternative theories on historical events via "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine" those groups.'

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Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: somekindofsign on April 15, 2010, 08:08:45 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Discrediting... they are fearing  :lol:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 15, 2010, 08:12:13 AM
We have so many conspiracy theories going on here they must need a lot of staff just to keep up!
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: rasyte on April 15, 2010, 08:31:33 AM
he can't destroy us! :twisted:   we know the truth!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: michaelsupporter on April 15, 2010, 08:46:14 AM
I guess that doesn't surprise me....just another attempt on the administration's part to attempt to control citizens. It is sickening and, mind you, against the Constitution of the United States----freedom of speech. It's terrible how some feel they are above the law.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: paula-c on April 15, 2010, 08:47:29 AM
Could it be that they fear anything?, ... indeed be that they fear the people? :geek:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 15, 2010, 08:49:51 AM
Quote from: "michaelsupporter"
I guess that doesn't surprise me....just another attempt on the administration's part to attempt to control citizens. It is sickening and, mind you, against the Constitution of the United States----freedom of speech. It's terrible how some feel they are above the law.

I agree!  I have never seen an adminstration that has deliberately gone against the wishes of the people that put him in office and try to destroy their rights the way this one has.  It is very disturbing!  This step goes along with all the tweets on twitter being log in the Library of Congress.  They are keeping track of everything we think and do!
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: ForstAMoon on April 15, 2010, 08:56:45 AM
on somewhat related topic: as it seems as of today the web page of Jane Burgermeister http://www.thefluecase.com (http://www.thefluecase.com) is down.

I have been following this page for some time, she managed to get a lot of very interesting stuff there.

Please also check by yourself, maybe it is only me who cannot enter this site anylonger.... but I doubt
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: ForstAMoon on April 15, 2010, 08:58:54 AM
sorry, mistake in the web http://www.theflucase.com (http://www.theflucase.com)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: MJLover1990 on April 15, 2010, 09:03:26 AM
I can only laugh about this. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

People are waking up more and more everyday so eventually they don't stand a chance anymore. He can't destroy us!
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: paula-c on April 15, 2010, 09:15:12 AM
That is the fear, the awakening of peoples. :geek:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 15, 2010, 09:23:48 AM
This is Ridiculous!!

How you can filter what someone puts on the sites. The Public has every reason to be concern about a while lot that is going on behind the scenes here in this country.  I mean, if what is said isn't true they wouldn't go out their way doing this but this is to let us know folks the truth is unfolding and many people are beginning to wake up and smell the coffee on alot of NONSENSE that has been going on for a long time. They are most definitely going against much of the people because they are preparing to control the masses of the people of the One World Government/Religion.  That's what's happening whether you believe it or not.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 15, 2010, 09:28:55 AM
@Infinitylady...I have to agree with you.  It is interesting that this is a census year also.  They are counting, watching, listening and trying to censor what we say and do, all the while vomiting out their garbage they want us to believe.  It is all about invasion of privacy, manipulation and control.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 15, 2010, 09:30:55 AM
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[ jill » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:28 pm

@Infinitylady...I have to agree with you. It is interesting that this is a census year also. They are counting, watching, listening and trying to censor what we say and do, all the while vomiting out their garbage they want us to believe. It is all about invasion of privacy, manipulation and control./b]

Jill,

Of course!  :lol:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Sarahli on April 15, 2010, 09:52:33 AM
Infiltation. As if it wasn't already the case. What is intriguing is why they feel the need to say it publicly ? As for the twitts to be collected...I don't know if it's to instill more fear as it is their way of action but I really feel that these people do not need to hide anymore and that in the contrary there are more and more blatant signs of their real agenda. The next step is about to come and before it to take place they apparently need to get the temperature of the society's state of mind and level of awareness.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Cameron on April 15, 2010, 02:37:35 PM
Ok so, if one of them read me: go to hell mother f***

You can't break us. You and your friend will die soon  ;)

WE ARE INVINCIBLE  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: Oh, I like Satan Smileys  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted: :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: airieslady on April 15, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
People are educating themselves through the internet... now, the next step is for "them" to take control of the internet.  Search engines will be controlled as to what you can search for and restrictions on certain sites.  I just heard yesterday about Mr. Obama's new program for Cyber Space Control.  I guess we will be cut off sooner than later... which looks like sooner.  Don't you feel like this "Agenda" is moving along at high speed? :?
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: bec on April 15, 2010, 10:54:23 PM
Way to get on some watch lists guys.

Everything online runs through govt filters at the ISPs. Some of you *might* wanna go back n edit your posts. Oh wait, it's too late.

Brilliant. Not.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: 2good2btrue on April 15, 2010, 11:35:18 PM
Do the majority of Americans trust Obama?????   Just thought I'd ask.  I'm Australian, but I've always wondered about something not quite right about all this.  It seem like he is trying to hide something. :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  Didn't he lie about his "Birth Certificate" or something????  Bit far fetched, but I wonder whether MJ will expose something about him when he comes back.  I'm usually right about my gut instincts.  But if the Americans are happy with him , then maybe I better shut up.  In the long term, nobody in politics can be trusted.  As always, with L.O.V.E  xox
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 15, 2010, 11:37:24 PM
@2good2betrue...  There are a lot of us that are not happy.

@bec...I refuse to be intimidated.  As far as I know he has not revoked our freedom of speech yet.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: bec on April 15, 2010, 11:43:43 PM
Quote from: "jill"
@2good2betrue...  There are a lot of us that are not happy.

@bec...I refuse to be intimidated.  As far as I know he has not revoked our freedom of speech yet.

Look up the patriot act before you speak too confidently online.

I love my country.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 16, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
Bec,

I believe we all love our country but there are many things that are happening right now that are not looking good for the future.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Cameron on April 16, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Bec,

I believe we all love our country but there are many things that are happening right now that are not looking good for the future.

+1
And not only in the usa, in all the north hemisphere and capitalism system.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Grace on April 16, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
Quote from: "jill"
@Infinitylady...I have to agree with you.  It is interesting that this is a census year also.  They are counting, watching, listening and trying to censor what we say and do, all the while vomiting out their garbage they want us to believe.  It is all about invasion of privacy, manipulation and control.

In this year's census they are combining and joining data from different data sources they already have in our country. They are not investigating the public and people directly but behind their backs.
I just think of how outdated their data are and wish them good luck.
In some areas of authority data bases some bookworms would be more than welcome ;)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 16, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
Quote
Cameron » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:38 pm

Infinitylady wrote:
Bec,

I believe we all love our country but there are many things that are happening right now that are not looking good for the future.

+1
And not only in the usa, in all the north hemisphere and capitalism system.

I agree with you 100%  :)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: The White Rabbit on April 16, 2010, 02:33:56 PM
Well no kidding! next people will be wondering if any of the 'bad folks' are lurking around MJ hoax sites ;)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 16, 2010, 02:44:19 PM
@Infinitylady...Well said!
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 18, 2010, 10:48:05 AM
," in which he argued that the government should stealthily infiltrate groups that pose alternative theories on historical events via "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine" those groups.'

In other words they want to silence anyone who would disagree with their account of historical events, which they have altered to suit their purposes!
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Daphne on April 18, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
[youtube:45tvf6oh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37wW9CGWyY[/youtube:45tvf6oh]
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: paula-c on April 18, 2010, 06:09:17 PM
Fast have grown social networks and impressive to see how collective consciousness works to unite against what seems unfair, or to support an idea or activity. I think that soon we will be included in any list of! public enemies or any terrorist list!.

Remember,... people should not be afraid of their Governments, Governments must fear their people.
When this fear you begin to see how interventionist policies are implemented and terror.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 19, 2010, 03:47:12 PM
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by The White Rabbit » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:33 pm

Well no kidding! next people will be wondering if any of the 'bad folks' are lurking around MJ hoax sites


Hey, WhiteRabbit, but you never know.  ;)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 19, 2010, 03:51:11 PM
Quote from: "jill"
We have so many conspiracy theories going on here they must need a lot of staff just to keep up!


And so they have... hence the snipers lately.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: White_Orchid on April 19, 2010, 04:26:45 PM
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Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 19, 2010, 04:42:25 PM
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White_Orchid » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:26 pm

To add to the discussion....

Microsoft has about 93% global saturation of the internet market.

Rockefeller has been trying to pass 2 US Senate Bills, 773 and 778, that would make the US President the Czar of the internet within 'Policing powers'. Rockefeller wants to utilize Microsoft's global market saturation as the ingress path into our privacy.

So far as I know, these Bills have not been passed yet. Take a gander at any Microsoft Agreement which basically states that that US law will prevail in any legal actions against Microsoft blah bah blah...it other words, don't bother to sue if you don't like something.

As a backlash to Rockefeller's NWO tactic, people are looking for alternatives to Microsoft Windows.

Rockefeller tried to push these Bills through the US Senate during vacation time last year but activists group were outraged and delayed it. Here are a couple of links for you as a start point if you want to read more about it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=93966 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=93966)

http://www.mvconnection.com/internet-se ... -bills-773 (http://www.mvconnection.com/internet-services/rockefeller-shutting-down-internet-bills-773)


This is just ridiculous!!  :roll:

Yeah, I wish there can be an alternative to Microsoft. I like Microsoft but often get tired of them upgrading to all these different softwares. If there is an alternative. Let me know about it. Most computers and laptops already have Microsoft already on them.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 19, 2010, 04:53:49 PM
@Souza....Sorry if it has caused a problem.  Not my intention.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: White_Orchid on April 19, 2010, 05:16:24 PM
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Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 19, 2010, 05:18:14 PM
White Orchid,

If you know of any let me know. I would like to look into them. Thanks.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: White_Orchid on April 19, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
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Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 19, 2010, 05:58:20 PM
@Infinitylady...My son has a Mac and loves it.  It does not have the problems that Microsoft has.  Very rarely will you get a virus on a Mac.  Their operating system is a lot cheaper too, $79.99.  They also have a microsoft office equivalant too.  You can use their os on a pc but they say it works better on the macs.  I am considering getting one for me.  The Macs are more expensive but you don't have to put out an arm and a leg for their programs like you do with windows.  They last a lot longer than the pc's do.  Their operating system is called OSx Leopard.   Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: paula-c on April 19, 2010, 07:50:23 PM
It is important to know that NSA is the government's intelligence agency of the United States is responsible for analyzing global communications. Use the Echelon network: a vast spy network in the U.S., Canada, Britain, Australia and New Zealand. Has technology and secret budget and an estimated analyzes more than three billion communications every day by radio, satellite, telephone calls, faxes, emails and all traffic flowing through the Internet. :geek:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Grace on April 19, 2010, 11:11:05 PM
Quote from: "jill"
@Infinitylady...My son has a Mac and loves it.  It does not have the problems that Microsoft has.  Very rarely will you get a virus on a Mac.  Their operating system is a lot cheaper too, $79.99.  They also have a microsoft office equivalant too.  You can use their os on a pc but they say it works better on the macs.  I am considering getting one for me.  The Macs are more expensive but you don't have to put out an arm and a leg for their programs like you do with windows.  They last a lot longer than the pc's do.  Their operating system is called OSx Leopard.   Hope this helps.

Just yesterday an IT professional told me that in his opinion Microsoft products show some product crashes every once in a while on purpose to make us BELIEVE that their technology is not that advanced, full of errors and may not handle today's traffic and data volume.
There are always user applications and backoffice programs in every server installation. It may very well apply that the latest MS updates are only the better fitting software variants to the updated backoffice software that does with our data what we are not supposed to know.
I always wondered how come that Microsoft products are so miserably set up that all kinds of holes are in there to invade desktops via internet. This is a global leader so they should be able to fix it, no?

Some say that internet virus attacks are initiated and provoked by responsibles for antivirus software in order to produce more consumers to buy their products. I highly doubt the stories of the 16 yr old hackers motivated by just the fun of it. They are there but the software systems have become so complex that you must have some profound knowledge in it to find the holes. IMO the trojans and viruses are not invented by private folks that want to read aunt Annie's secret love letters.
Analyzing online traffic is one thing. Analyzing stored (thus important) data and invading desktops is much more interesting.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 20, 2010, 01:55:35 PM
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by jill » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:58 pm

@Infinitylady...My son has a Mac and loves it. It does not have the problems that Microsoft has. Very rarely will you get a virus on a Mac. Their operating system is a lot cheaper too, $79.99. They also have a microsoft office equivalant too. You can use their os on a pc but they say it works better on the macs. I am considering getting one for me. The Macs are more expensive but you don't have to put out an arm and a leg for their programs like you do with windows. They last a lot longer than the pc's do. Their operating system is called OSx Leopard. Hope this helps.

Thanks.   :)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: Infinitylady on April 20, 2010, 01:57:41 PM
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paula-c » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:50 am

It is important to know that NSA is the government's intelligence agency of the United States is responsible for analyzing global communications. Use the Echelon network: a vast spy network in the U.S., Canada, Britain, Australia and New Zealand. Has technology and secret budget and an estimated analyzes more than three billion communications every day by radio, satellite, telephone calls, faxes, emails and all traffic flowing through the Internet.


Okay, are you saying they use this Echelon network or were you recommending to use it?
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: paula-c on April 20, 2010, 02:32:11 PM
In spite of being in control military communications of the Soviet Union and its allies, suspected today ECHELON is used to find clues about terrorist plots, drug trafficking and political and diplomatic intelligence plans. Critics claim that the system is also used to any nation economic espionage and invasion of privacy on a large scale. The existence of ECHELON was made public in 1976 by Winslow Peck.

 Infinitylady, in Wikipedia you can read more about Echelon ;)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: somekindofsign on April 20, 2010, 05:55:19 PM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
on somewhat related topic: as it seems as of today the web page of Jane Burgermeister http://www.thefluecase.com (http://www.thefluecase.com) is down.

I have been following this page for some time, she managed to get a lot of very interesting stuff there.

Please also check by yourself, maybe it is only me who cannot enter this site anylonger.... but I doubt

That´s not today... the site has been attacked.

http://theflucase.com/ (http://theflucase.com/)

Quote
The flu case

will soon be back.

Please accept our apologies for the time we have been down, we do everything we can to be back soon!

All are well, only the site has been attacked!

Until we are back with this site, Jane Burgermeister invites you to her old blog which has the latest:

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/ (http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/)
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: NightOwl on April 21, 2010, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: "jill"
http://beforeitsnews.com/news/33009/Oba ... roups.html (http://beforeitsnews.com/news/33009/Obama_Staffer_Wants_Cognitive_Infiltration_of_9_11_Conspiracy_Groups.html)
Obama Staffer Wants Cognitive Infiltration of 9/11 Conspiracy Group

 

Thanks for posting. If there's gonna be censorship, people will go under. I am not a web wizard, but to P-to-P networking so such perhaps-- The word will spread one way or another. It's too far gone now.

They are watching the word spread, the wall has started to crack, the awakening spreads every day. They are afraid. That article is from 2008, and we're still gaining force, so they have probably shit their pants by now.

Actually, I think that if they actually start filtering that would have some reverse effect: people would get interested "Now why is it that important to filter the 9/11 and other conspiracy theorists? We all know that they're just loonies! Or... are they? Hmmmm...."
Oh, how good it is to see this awakening happen all over the world. Together we are strong!
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 21, 2010, 04:40:16 PM
Glen Beck has devoted his show today to exposing this very article and what the government wants to do to stop conspiracy theories!  It is on right now.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: MJLover1990 on April 21, 2010, 04:56:10 PM
Glen Beck can't be trusted, he is demonizing conspiracy theorists. He said we are the terrorists. :evil:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 21, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Glen Beck can't be trusted, he is demonizing conspiracy theorists. He said we are the terrorists. :evil:

You have it backwards.  He is not accusing anyone of being terrorists.  He has been saying that the government is accusing anyone that questions what the administration is doing are being accused of inciting terrorism.  He just did a piece on the very article that was posted at the beginning of this thread.  He is questioning there motives for them wanting to stop conspiracy theories.  What other reason than they are hiding something and they do not want people digging into it to find out the truth.

Someone accused him last week of sadition, which is being anti government and trying to destroy our country.  That is not true.  He is trying to expose the truth.
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: MJLover1990 on April 21, 2010, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: "jill"
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Glen Beck can't be trusted, he is demonizing conspiracy theorists. He said we are the terrorists. :evil:

You have it backwards.  He is not accusing anyone of being terrorists.  He has been saying that the government is accusing anyone that questions what the administration is doing are being accused of inciting terrorism.  He just did a piece on the very article that was posted at the beginning of this thread.  He is questioning there motives for them wanting to stop conspiracy theories.  What other reason than they are hiding something and they do not want people digging into it to find out the truth.

Someone accused him last week of sadition, which is being anti government and trying to destroy our country.  That is not true.  He is trying to expose the truth.

You may be right haha, I don't know what to believe sometimes. Over at the David Icke forum where I check every now and then they are pretty mad at him because he doesn't expose a thing. But I'm not really sure. I'll keep it in the middle. :lol:
Title: Re: Gov Infiltration of Conspiracy Theory Groups!
Post by: jill on April 21, 2010, 06:08:38 PM
This is the video where Beck is exposing the man that wrote the article that this thread is about!  Please watch this!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4160989/cass ... -tea-party (http://video.foxnews.com/v/4160989/cass-sunstein-vs-tea-party)
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