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Title: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 06:28:51 AM
hey everyone...I have been following all this since the beginning but havent signed up until now...
just wanted to put something out there i havent seen mentioned....
there is an old youtube of michael being prank called by a famous phone prankster..it was confirmed to def be michael later on....in the prank call the guy (who is a real jerk to be honest)said something very mean to mj, and all of a sudden mj started doing a voice of a different person pretending it wasnt him...THE VOICE HE WAS USING IS THE SAME VOICE ON THE EXTENDED PRACTICE VERSION OF THE 911 TAPE THAT WAS PUT ON HERE THE OTHER DAY....the name of the guy who pranked him was ralphige or something like that, so you can search youtube for it...to me this confirms 100% michael was there and awake and fine while the 911 call was being prepared.
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Post by: MJLover1990 on April 14, 2010, 06:32:26 AM
I've seen that video, but if I'm right and correct me if I'm wrong so you're saying that Michael called 911 himself but in a different voice or am I understanding this wrong?
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Post by: ABeautifulMind on April 14, 2010, 06:35:06 AM
Does anyone have the link to the video?
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Post by: MJLover1990 on April 14, 2010, 06:38:14 AM
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:zvzlsmo0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:zvzlsmo0]
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 06:39:44 AM
In the videos section someone put a new video by pianogames i believe which has a segment at the end where you can hear the 911 operator and whoever was supposedly making the call seeming to rehearse the call....during that part of the video you can hear someone speak a few times that sounds exactly like the voice mj used when he was covering up his voice in the prank video...i honestly believe it was him using whatever his "disguise" voice is....I was always on the fence but heavily leaning towards a hoaxed death,  but this really makes me believe 100% he is alive and orchestrating the whole thing
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Post by: loveratheart4mj on April 14, 2010, 06:42:21 AM
I honestly hope he is Orchestrating a COME BACK or return in the end. I just want to know he is among us and can be seen ocassionally and i will have a peace of mind. sigh....
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Post by: ashywhelan on April 14, 2010, 06:53:09 AM
That was a horrible thing to say to him feel so sorry he had to put up with that crap!
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Post by: Tina K. on April 14, 2010, 06:55:21 AM
Quote from: "ashywhelan"
That was a horrible thing to say to him feel so sorry he had to put up with that crap!

He knew it was a prank call, I'm sure Michael has a good sense of humour :lol:
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 06:56:18 AM
Oh I agree it was horrible and absolutely uncalled for to do such a thing to Michael....But from that bad stuff, we might now possibly know he is ok...i really believe its the same voice
and yea, mj wasnt slow or anything, he seemed to know right away it wasnt him...prob just thought he would play along till the guy said that bad stuff
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Post by: ABeautifulMind on April 14, 2010, 07:18:32 AM
Wow, at first I thought it was a harmless prank until near the end. What jerks. But yea, wow that's amazing how he changed his voice. He got the last laugh in the end messing wit that guys head :D
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 07:44:08 AM
that was a rude, insensitive prank to play i dont think it was a prank i think it was harrassment

mike and akon should have gone to the police

dog

was mike using a voice sound transforming device?

it is as a result of pp like them that mike vetted his calls and had third partys so involved in his personal management.

i do not see how this is a clue?
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 07:50:05 AM
has anyone isolated the few seconds of the 911 call and amplified it so see what the background voices were saying?
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 07:50:17 AM
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it
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Post by: mjgal on April 14, 2010, 08:10:41 AM
I am absolutely infuriated by this prank!
I don't usually post but I could not resist letting my frustration out :evil:
Anyone know the email address to the radio station who did this?
Or the person who made the phone call?
I want to send in tons of complaints!
It was absolutely insensitive and I think it to be immoral as well.
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 08:14:38 AM
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

links please

to me the strange voice - sounds changed through something rather than mike but then his beatbox is so good
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 08:19:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=jsyeuav ... eature=sub (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=jsyeuav_Wl8&playnext_from=TL&videos=Gf62EmZ8DfM&feature=sub)

this is the pianogames video i was referring to

and as far as the voice being altered, i used to be an audio engineer and can tell you with absolute confidence that was his voice he was just changing it to mess with the guy back
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 08:24:16 AM
especialllllllly when he says keep calling that number keep calling keep calling
to me thats 1000% the same voice mj pulled out at the end of the prank
obviously i could be wrong but i just wanted to see what others thought about it...
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Post by: AvaMarie on April 14, 2010, 08:35:25 AM
This is the first time  I've heard this. I think you have a point here. Btw that guy is a jerk.
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Post by: CrazyBanana on April 14, 2010, 08:37:31 AM
Is it bad that I LOVE MJ in this prank call  :oops:  :oops:
the guy IS a jerk...but I think MJ knew because he was asking him questions n stuff...
sorry I know Im off topic but Ill be back with a video he used the same voice in..
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 08:38:57 AM
god dont know what tom did all that messing around in the beginning i switched off last time someone posted this - is off putting.

he has put a lot of junk in there - some times i think he is away with the fairies.

but i still can hear properly all that thriller stuff - shame
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Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 14, 2010, 08:39:44 AM
I think he knew it wasn't Akon, but maybe he just wanted to see how the prank call would develop but when he got totally rude ( poor Mike  :( ) Michael pranked him back.

What a *sshole, the guy who was pretending to be Akon  :x
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 08:42:04 AM
Quote from: "CrazyBanana"
Is it bad that I LOVE MJ in this prank call  :oops:  :oops:
the guy IS a jerk...but I think MJ knew because he was asking him questions n stuff...
sorry I know Im off topic but Ill be back with a video he used the same voice in..


if there is a video of him doing that voice, to me, that is the smoking gun right there...
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Post by: CrazyBanana on April 14, 2010, 08:44:22 AM
[youtube:3b78jbj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoszPv5mwCs&playnext_from=TL&videos=yAUhNo8KxOk[/youtube:3b78jbj8]

her you go...him doing a similar voice in his younger years
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: nynyro on April 14, 2010, 08:46:06 AM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:ujf8o8vo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:ujf8o8vo]

He totally knew it wasn't Akon! "So it changes the tonality of your voice?...I see ...I see..."  :lol:

OP, you might be onto something.

I think many people, even in the later years, thought Mj was an idiot.  :roll:  Well, the jokes on them.
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 08:48:17 AM
wowwwwww
same exact voice
there you have it for anyone with doubts,,,,,great job finding that old video
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Post by: Kirsche on April 14, 2010, 09:18:28 AM
So do you mean, MIchael made the 911 call and not Alvarez?? Or do you mean the voice in the background that was supposed to be CM?
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 09:27:09 AM
i think that they mean that the voice in the background was mikes?
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Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 14, 2010, 09:36:49 AM
Michael is a BAD A**! Haha, seriously. He KNEW the whole time that it wasn't really Akon, it really seemed like he was just going along with it, having some fun with it himself. But when he said that BS about child molesting, I could literally FEEL Michael's energy change. He turned it around on the idiot caller and...THAT VOICE! Wow! I think alot of the world has highly underestimated "Mr. Jackson" and the extend of his genius.  :)

He can literally become anything he wants to become.

Great clue, thanks for posting. This is one of the few things I'd never heard before!
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Post by: Tink.I.Am on April 14, 2010, 09:45:43 AM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:3urfo2um]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:3urfo2um]

in the beginning it sounds lik e mJ  using a voicechanger... and then he sais "hold on" and turns the voicechanger off...
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 09:53:13 AM
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:2fk0gr13]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:2fk0gr13]

in the beginning it sounds lik e mJ  using a voicechanger... and then he sais "hold on" and turns the voicechanger off...


it was already proven in another video someone posted in this very thread that it is him....people before you reply with questions and comments just read all the posts to make sure it hasnt been covered...and lets not lose site of the point of this particular post...it was to show the voice mj uses as his disguise voice was being used in the 911 call if in fact the video piano games put up is using real audio..there was no elaboration about how they got the 911 rehearsal call or anything, so who knows, but, its def a strong possibility in my mind
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Post by: Tink.I.Am on April 14, 2010, 10:02:19 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

links please

to me the strange voice - sounds changed through something rather than mike but then his beatbox is so good

here is the full version of the call.. it does sound similar to the prankcall ie voice changer, but when i first heard this version of the 911 call i thought it to be someone at a newroom listening to the 911call and trying to phone someother newsstation/room or person at the same time....but i dont know
[youtube:2vo3sx6k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f2RUtvfgag[/youtube:2vo3sx6k]
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Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on April 14, 2010, 10:04:44 AM
Prank or no prank, that was an awful thing to say. :evil:
You could automatically tell that MJ got pissed off.
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Post by: Tink.I.Am on April 14, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
i think that they mean that the voice in the background was mikes?

you mean the "just tell them to come" part?   From the first time i herd that i thought it was MJ, but it can also be a family member.. even if they said they werent there...
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Post by: XspeechlessX on April 14, 2010, 10:24:28 AM
This has already been discussed on another thread...

L.O.V.E
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Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 14, 2010, 11:04:09 AM
Okay I'm not sure what was originally meant... but I feel like the CALLER could be Mike himself. We know how well he can disguise his voice. You might say it sounds nothing like him, but that's what makes him MJ.

Maybe there's even MORE truth to that statement made about Michael being one of the best "actors" in the world.
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Post by: Tink.I.Am on April 14, 2010, 11:06:56 AM
i did this morph on mj's voice using the song "speechless", might be of any help...  :P just to show hos easy a voice can be changed through tecnology.

[youtube:3ll3jzhx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK25-QMUWJo[/youtube:3ll3jzhx]
I used morphVox.
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Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 14, 2010, 11:14:21 AM
Let's also not forget when Michael played the role of the Mayor in his "Ghosts" short film. He changed his voice beyong recognition without using any kind of voice changing technology.
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Post by: jill on April 14, 2010, 12:01:39 PM
@nycmjfan...I think Pianogames gave credit in his video to whoever sent him the entire 911 call.  I cannot remember who the person was.  From the old video that was posted when he was much younger you can tell he is changing his voice without electronics.  I do believe it was him in the background of the practice 911 call.  It sounds very much like the video of him when he was much younger.  

Great find, by the way!!!!
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 12:27:43 PM
Quote from: "jill"
@nycmjfan...I think Pianogames gave credit in his video to whoever sent him the entire 911 call.  I cannot remember who the person was.  From the old video that was posted when he was much younger you can tell he is changing his voice without electronics.  I do believe it was him in the background of the practice 911 call.  It sounds very much like the video of him when he was much younger.  

Great find, by the way!!!!

thank you, you understood exactly what i was trying to point out...glad someone else agrees with me on this, it really solidified my view on the situation as a whole...where as many other things can be coincidence, this really just is what it is..the only way to know how relevant it is would be to find out if the "practice" 911 call is real deal...
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Post by: kel70 on April 14, 2010, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

links please

to me the strange voice - sounds changed through something rather than mike but then his beatbox is so good

here is the full version of the call.. it does sound similar to the prankcall ie voice changer, but when i first heard this version of the 911 call i thought it to be someone at a newroom listening to the 911call and trying to phone someother newsstation/room or person at the same time....but i dont know
[youtube:2wfeuy8n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f2RUtvfgag[/youtube:2wfeuy8n]


i found it hard to listen with so much going on, at around 0.33 it sounds like someone says prank and at the very end of the video listen closely, i had my speaker to my ear...3.11 not sure if its mj but i thought it sounded distresssing..i heard hello, hello, hello, you are.. can someone listen and tell me i am not hearing things, or if someone hears differently..it maybe someone else but its weird. thanks
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Post by: Kirsche on April 14, 2010, 12:55:47 PM
Sorry to ask again, but I still don't get it.... :oops:

Do you mean, the one who called the 911 is MJ or voice in the background?
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Post by: Venus on April 14, 2010, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:1etpvleo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:1etpvleo]

I've heard this before. And let me tell you something - it's just embarassing to listen. I almost died when Michael faked his voice in the beging, especially in the end. Wow. Poor Michael  :oops:
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Post by: mjssoulmate on April 14, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
Excellent find! The guy who says" Keep calling!" soounds just like Michael in the prank call and the younger Michael doing a different voice.

Very exciting!

 :D  :D  :D
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 01:53:39 PM
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:2jwqi85s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:2jwqi85s]
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: "mjssoulmate"
Excellent find! The guy who says" Keep calling!" soounds just like Michael in the prank call and the younger Michael doing a different voice.

Very exciting!

 :D  :D  :D

thank you, you get it =)
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:3iry7053]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:3iry7053]

itsnot this video
we are comparing the voices heard in the end of the piano games video i posted with michaels fake voice which can be seen as ABSOLUTELY being him with the prank call i posted as well as  in the video someone posted in this very message of a young MJ...
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Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 01:59:21 PM
Just to clarify once again this has nothing to do with the regular or extended 911 call videos...it is referring to the 911 practice run at the end of piano games new video...thats all....and for verification and reference  we used the video of young MJ doing the voice right in front of us, and the video of him being pranked by that lowlife
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 01:59:36 PM
Thank you nycmjfan!
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:21h7mixx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:21h7mixx]

early on its murray speaking in the backgroung, but whats this woman saying - 1 minutes left ?
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Post by: the arabian nights on April 14, 2010, 02:14:27 PM
[youtube:1d8yz25q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkJei9HJnDA[/youtube:1d8yz25q]

this vid does the comparisons with what has been said and what has been edited by tmz

4 versions
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 02:17:04 PM
Yes, the 1 minutes left thing is the version that makes it seem a studio or professional recording...
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Post by: lynn on April 14, 2010, 02:28:27 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:1z33m3ne]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:1z33m3ne]


At 1:01 You can hear someone say "Less then one minute left"

Did I hear that right? or is something else said?
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Post by: Sabrina on April 14, 2010, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: "lynn"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:1rbrltd8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:1rbrltd8]


At 1:01 You can hear someone say "Less then one minute left"

Did I hear that right? or is something else said?


heard that too
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Post by: Tina K. on April 14, 2010, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: "Sabrina"
Quote from: "lynn"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:1p107ee6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:1p107ee6]


At 1:01 You can hear someone say "Less then one minute left"

Did I hear that right? or is something else said?


heard that too
could it not be " less than 1 minute untill the ambulance arrives " ? Are you sure it's a voice from the house ?
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 03:23:50 PM
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.
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Post by: Tina K. on April 14, 2010, 03:30:22 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

ok, but the murray voice in the background, sounds totally like Conrad Murray... And the female voice, does not sound , as if it " belongs " there. I have never heard this voice before, is there another 911 call ? I think maybe, the voice is put in afterwards, by someone who thinks i's funny.
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Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 14, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

It sounded more like "just a minute though" to me.
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 03:35:15 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

ok, but the murray voice in the background, sounds totally like Conrad Murray... And the female voice, does not sound , as if it " belongs " there. I have never heard this voice before, is there another 911 call ? I think maybe, the voice is put in afterwards, by someone who thinks i's funny.

Yes I hear it as if it doesn´t belong there too.
I don´t know the reason... but as we have four versions, it MAY mean that it´s part of the hoax, more versions where recorded at studio, and this woman is a sound operator/directing assistant who is counting time... as I said, it´s weird that she talks (whatever she says) about 1 minute and that´s exactly the time to finish the call...
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
It sounded more like "just a minute though" to me.

I don´t know if she says
-Less than a minute to go
or
-Less than a minute though

But I clearly hear "Less than"
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Post by: Dancing_Machine on April 14, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
It sounded more like "just a minute though" to me.

I don´t know if she says
-Less than a minute to go
or
-Less than a minute though

But I clearly hear "Less than"

I double checked and you're right she said "Less than..." :)  
But I still here the "though", so "less than a minute though''
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Post by: Sabrina on April 14, 2010, 03:45:17 PM
I think that the woman's voice has been added :)
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 03:46:43 PM
There are also some clicks.
I can hear one before the woman speaks, and another around 1:28, and little noises in the same level.
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Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: "Sabrina"
I think that the woman's voice has been added :)

But the video was uploaded on 26th June... they had to be really really quick.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Tina K. on April 14, 2010, 03:51:20 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
There are also some clicks.
I can hear one before the woman speaks, and another around 1:28, and little noises in the same level.

Yes, but these clicks can be a woman at the computer, at the firestation.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
Yes, but these clicks can be a woman at the computer, at the firestation.

That would make really good sense if it wasn´t because of the other weird thing here:
The fact that the caller has much better sound than the responder, who seems to be in a tin can.
The woman makes a clear sound.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Tina K. on April 14, 2010, 04:00:48 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "Tina K."
Yes, but these clicks can be a woman at the computer, at the firestation.

That would make really good sense if it wasn´t because of the other weird thing here:
The fact that the caller has much better sound than the responder, who seems to be in a tin can.
The woman makes a clear sound.

hmmm... it beats me then :)
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 05:29:09 PM
the 1 min thing sounds fake
some of you are going way too left field....re read my explanation of this post and then try to realize the significant part of this...
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 05:35:58 PM
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
the 1 min thing sounds fake
some of you are going way too left field....re read my explanation of this post and then try to realize the significant part of this...

But we´re are talking about this version here now, nycmjfan, both of them (yours and this) have been discussed before. This part has gone a little off topic... it happens all the time... nothing happens... and it´s all complementary.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: mumof3 on April 14, 2010, 06:11:01 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Michael is a BAD A**! Haha, seriously. He KNEW the whole time that it wasn't really Akon, it really seemed like he was just going along with it, having some fun with it himself. But when he said that BS about child molesting, I could literally FEEL Michael's energy change. He turned it around on the idiot caller and...THAT VOICE! Wow! I think alot of the world has highly underestimated "Mr. Jackson" and the extend of his genius.  :)

He can literally become anything he wants to become.

Great clue, thanks for posting. This is one of the few things I'd never heard before!
It was so cruel michaels heart must have sunk when that rubbish came out and it was great how he came back with that voice. Anything is possible with michael
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: whatyourheartsays on April 14, 2010, 06:34:06 PM
I heard to both videos, and I think there is too much "phone distortion" to say it's the same voice. I mean, it's a voice that is spoken "with the nose" but nothing more to compare...It's hard to say it's the same on both videos. :?

I cannot tell...
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Jacksonology on April 14, 2010, 06:48:24 PM
this is very interesting 8-)
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Christiana on April 14, 2010, 06:55:33 PM
Even if Michael knew the call was a prank....it had to just gut him when that idiot asked him that disgusting question. My gawd...I got choked up listening to it, so I can only imagine how Michael must have felt. That jerk is beyond a jerk. There is no nice way to say what I really think of him here. ARGGGHHH!!  :twisted:  

But moving on...regarding the Piano Games video with the snippet of that 911 call, is there a video that has that footage in one continuous stretch? All the music and interruptions are incredibly distracting and annoying to me. I'd love to here it isolated outside of all that. Does anyone know if that is possible? Does PG have a video with just that content by itself? Someone else maybe?
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 07:07:21 PM
everyone also make sure you check out the new posting i made...
it shows how the producer swizz beats was supposed to be directing an upcoming mj tour and producing for his album...in an article dated 2008.....
and now he is putting things about something happening in the fall, with pics that you should see for yourself to make a judgement about
its in this forum
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: whatyourheartsays on April 14, 2010, 07:40:53 PM
I saw it, but it could be about the Jacksons brother, but not Michael... :?
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
I saw it, but it could be about the Jacksons brother, but not Michael... :?

thats what i would have said if not for the articles from 1998 all over the internet talking about swizz beats producing an upcoming tour for MJ, and also doing stuff for his album...Means they were close and had a relationship and plans to work together on this is it before it was even named this is it...
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 14, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:3qbgpnkc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:3qbgpnkc]
HHAHA OMG I LOVE MICHAEL SO MUCH
THE MINUTE HE POPPED OUT : WHERE DID YOU SEE ME LAST" HE KNEW IT WAS FAKE.
haha i love him :)
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 14, 2010, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Quote from: "ABeautifulMind"
Does anyone have the link to the video?

Here you go:

[youtube:1rnexn8y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIvTCIoVyAg[/youtube:1rnexn8y]
HHAHA OMG I LOVE MICHAEL SO MUCH
THE MINUTE HE POPPED OUT : WHERE DID YOU SEE ME LAST" HE KNEW IT WAS FAKE.
haha i love him :) yea he def new all along it was a prank hes aint no idiot.
and OMG when he changed his voice at the end holy shit, hes good at voice changes. DAYUMMM!
you would never guess that was him.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

It would be really nice if you posted the videos you´re speaking about, it´s a little hard to follow, and you would explain yourself more quickly...
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: nycmjfan on April 14, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

It would be really nice if you posted the videos you´re speaking about, it´s a little hard to follow, and you would explain yourself more quickly...

Are you serious? Every video has been posted in this thread..as well as explained numerous times in great detail...if people arent getting it by now im sorry but i dont know how else to explain it..just hafta read this post from beginning to end
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: somekindofsign on April 14, 2010, 08:37:07 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
Quote from: "ashywhelan"
That was a horrible thing to say to him feel so sorry he had to put up with that crap!

He knew it was a prank call, I'm sure Michael has a good sense of humour :lol:

I don´t see how that can be hilairus at all.

Even if he seems to be aware of the prank, making specific questions (that this dude sure answered wrong, things that Akon should know... "are you off tonight?"... I don´t know many about Akon)

MJ says so with irony, same way he said "mm that was interesting" once when he´s almost beaten in the head with a  swinging rope while rehersing.

Michael has a really sweet and polite way to complain.
And yeahh this proves he has a HUGE sense of humour that I share here with him,
because "you´re not going to molest anymore children eh, it´s bad publicity" is no way a joke.

He is just genious, and he upsides down to prank the guy.

How could this man being involved in the 911 call?
I only could explain that with the murder theory...  :?  that suits with this guy...
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: paula-c on April 14, 2010, 08:50:50 PM
Oscar Nominees:

PianoGames, by the time the research devoted to this
For their constancy
For his dedication ... ;)  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: rag doll on April 15, 2010, 02:31:54 AM
This stunned and frightened me at the same time - I had no idea that he can do that with his voice!  :shock:
Wow, you wouldn´t hear a similarity at all!
If that´s truly him, I wouldn´t want to be present when he´s getting really angry....  :evil:  :o

He clearly debunked that fake caller within a few seconds.
All the more admirable is the angelic patience he shows - incredible!  8-)
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Tink.I.Am on April 15, 2010, 02:37:29 AM
Quote from: "kel70"
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "nycmjfan"
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

links please

to me the strange voice - sounds changed through something rather than mike but then his beatbox is so good

here is the full version of the call.. it does sound similar to the prankcall ie voice changer, but when i first heard this version of the 911 call i thought it to be someone at a newroom listening to the 911call and trying to phone someother newsstation/room or person at the same time....but i dont know
[youtube:3cafbl2e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f2RUtvfgag[/youtube:3cafbl2e]


i found it hard to listen with so much going on, at around 0.33 it sounds like someone says prank and at the very end of the video listen closely, i had my speaker to my ear...3.11 not sure if its mj but i thought it sounded distresssing..i heard hello, hello, hello, you are.. can someone listen and tell me i am not hearing things, or if someone hears differently..it maybe someone else but its weird. thanks

i thought about it and it might be that  these peopel are listening to the 911 call as it happens... at 12.21 25/6-2009  and they hear the number that the 911-caller gives the 911-operator. (we dont hear this part in any of the calls). A woman then tries to call this number, but sais "it is blank" . meaning "i cant get a bussy toan/there is no toan at all."-
either the 911-caller gives a false number or the line should be busy since he is on the phone at that moment....
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Kirsche on April 15, 2010, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

ok, but the murray voice in the background, sounds totally like Conrad Murray... And the female voice, does not sound , as if it " belongs " there. I have never heard this voice before, is there another 911 call ? I think maybe, the voice is put in afterwards, by someone who thinks i's funny.


I think this woman's voice belongs to a studio....maybe in a direction? "less than a minute" and then up to a commercial break, maybe?
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Jacksonology on April 15, 2010, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Tina K."
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

ok, but the murray voice in the background, sounds totally like Conrad Murray... And the female voice, does not sound , as if it " belongs " there. I have never heard this voice before, is there another 911 call ? I think maybe, the voice is put in afterwards, by someone who thinks i's funny.


I think this woman's voice belongs to a studio....maybe in a direction? "less than a minute" and then up to a commercial break, maybe?
that would make sense...
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Kirsche on April 15, 2010, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Tina K."
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

ok, but the murray voice in the background, sounds totally like Conrad Murray... And the female voice, does not sound , as if it " belongs " there. I have never heard this voice before, is there another 911 call ? I think maybe, the voice is put in afterwards, by someone who thinks i's funny.


I think this woman's voice belongs to a studio....maybe in a direction? "less than a minute" and then up to a commercial break, maybe?
that would make sense...

yes, or it was the woman of the recording studio, where the call was recorded to go on air  :lol:
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Jacksonology on April 15, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Tina K."
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First, it seems a woman who speaks. It´s a really clear voice, first plane.
I hear "Less than a minute to go!"
And there´s actually a minute left for the call to end!!!
And the ambulance is not there one minute later.
To me this calling thing is one of the more clearly suspicious thing in the whole case.

ok, but the murray voice in the background, sounds totally like Conrad Murray... And the female voice, does not sound , as if it " belongs " there. I have never heard this voice before, is there another 911 call ? I think maybe, the voice is put in afterwards, by someone who thinks i's funny.


I think this woman's voice belongs to a studio....maybe in a direction? "less than a minute" and then up to a commercial break, maybe?
that would make sense...

yes, or it was the woman of the recording studio, where the call was recorded to go on air  :lol:
Who knows with Michael :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: simplyme on April 15, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
How can people be so cruel.  That was stupid.  Michael did recognize right away that the voice was different but gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said it was because he was in the air.  Michael didn't know.  He was engaging in genuine conversation until that butt head said what he said.  Now what is this extended version of the 911 that everyone's talking about.  I doubt I'm gonna agree about the voice, but I'd like to hear it anyway.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: ROFL on April 15, 2010, 08:54:11 PM
I'd like people to stick to the topic and not discuss the prank call , as cruel as it is ...
I have to skip too much posts cos they are not significant
Thanks
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: simplyme on April 15, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:12n8v9v1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:12n8v9v1]

early on its murray speaking in the backgroung, but whats this woman saying - 1 minutes left ?

I think that was at the studio while it was airing - the woman I mean.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: simplyme on April 15, 2010, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
How can people be so cruel.  That was stupid.  Michael did recognize right away that the voice was different but gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said it was because he was in the air.  Michael didn't know.  He was engaging in genuine conversation until that butt head said what he said.  Now what is this extended version of the 911 that everyone's talking about.  I doubt I'm gonna agree about the voice, but I'd like to hear it anyway.

I was right.  Don't agree.  I've heard both those versions before.  Alberto, the dispatcher and Conrad Murray in the background sound nothing like the alter Michael/person in the prank call.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Marissa87 on April 15, 2010, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: "CrazyBanana"
[youtube:wfy4krob]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoszPv5mwCs&playnext_from=TL&videos=yAUhNo8KxOk[/youtube:wfy4krob]

her you go...him doing a similar voice in his younger years

This was the first thing that came to mind as soon as I heard his disguised voice! Good job posting it up here.
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Tink.I.Am on April 16, 2010, 12:00:38 PM
Quote from: "simplyme"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Could anyone quote the minute in this video please?
Or is it just in the prank video?
Could anyone quote the minute in the prak video please?

[youtube:159hbt6b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuzVZgfExjU[/youtube:159hbt6b]

early on its murray speaking in the backgroung, but whats this woman saying - 1 minutes left ?

I think that was at the studio while it was airing - the woman I mean.
this is not the 911 that pianogames posted in his video.. but you can find it in one of my posts in thisthread..
Title: Re: I think I have a very legitimate clue...please read
Post by: Infinitylady on April 16, 2010, 01:29:30 PM
Quote
Tink.I.Am » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:37 am

kel70 wrote:
Tink.I.Am wrote:
the arabian nights wrote:
nycmjfan wrote:
It wasnt a vocoder or anything like that it was him changing his voice....And that is the clue...listen to that voice then listen to the new video someone made with a supposed rehearsal for the 911 call...that same voice is in it

links please

to me the strange voice - sounds changed through something rather than mike but then his beatbox is so good

here is the full version of the call.. it does sound similar to the prankcall ie voice changer, but when i first heard this version of the 911 call i thought it to be someone at a newroom listening to the 911call and trying to phone someother newsstation/room or person at the same time....but i dont know



i found it hard to listen with so much going on, at around 0.33 it sounds like someone says prank and at the very end of the video listen closely, i had my speaker to my ear...3.11 not sure if its mj but i thought it sounded distresssing..i heard hello, hello, hello, you are.. can someone listen and tell me i am not hearing things, or if someone hears differently..it maybe someone else but its weird. thanks

i thought about it and it might be that these peopel are listening to the 911 call as it happens... at 12.21 25/6-2009 and they hear the number that the 911-caller gives the 911-operator. (we dont hear this part in any of the calls). A woman then tries to call this number, but sais "it is blank" . meaning "i cant get a bussy toan/there is no toan at all."-
either the 911-caller gives a false number or the line should be busy since he is on the phone at that

Tink,

I heard the hello....hello....at 3:11 as well.  The voice of this person is different from the other person's voice.
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Post by: Steph16 on April 16, 2010, 03:59:33 PM
This makes me so sad. Poor Mike having to put up with this sort of thing and hes given so much to the world. People are sick
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