Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Theories => The Double Theory => Topic started by: MJJ1982 on April 13, 2010, 03:32:58 AM

Title: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 13, 2010, 03:32:58 AM
First of all, I've asked this before in double threads but since there is a double theory section, I wanted to make a topic about it. I'm just curious how many people believe in the double theory.

So the main question is clear: Do you believe that he used doubles or not? It doesn't matter in what era, and it's only about Michael not about his kids etc.
And the other question is: Are you a fan or not?

Second: It's not my intention to start an argue here, I only want to know how many double-believers there are.


I (still) don't believe that he used doubles for public performances like speeches or concerts. I think he only used them to mislead for example the papparazzi.
And I'm a fan for almost 20 years now.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: ForstAMoon on April 13, 2010, 03:44:14 AM
MJJ1982, here I go:
Quote
Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
yes, he did
Quote
Are you a fan or not?
not a fan
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Disco on April 13, 2010, 04:04:41 AM
Yes! I believe Michael used doubles but not for main events, Mainly I would say for decoy, I do believe doubles were used in the rehersals of TII for placement & dance routine.  ;)

I'm a lifelong fan  :)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: *Mo* on April 13, 2010, 04:10:15 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
Yes, I believe that 100%.

Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Are you a fan or not?
No, I am not.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Ninanina on April 13, 2010, 04:33:35 AM
I'm still not sure, if he used doubles, but I'm absolutely open minded to this possibility and it wouldn't hurt me, if he did.
I just hope, that the outcome is a good one - for his sake.

Yes, I'm a fan for 27 years. Fanatic and in love, when I was a child, later a more reserved admirer ;-)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Puff on April 13, 2010, 04:37:24 AM
Yes I believe he used doubles, and I don't call myself a fan, I like his music, but who don't like it   ;)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: LunaCielo on April 13, 2010, 04:46:50 AM
Yes, I think that Michael has used the double. Sometimes to escape the siege of the fans or journalists.
I am an admirer ... moderate
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: GirlSaturday on April 13, 2010, 04:48:36 AM
Yes... he used doubles for performances and public appearances.
BTW, I have been a fan since 1969. ;)

Quote from: "MJJ1982"
First of all, I've asked this before in double threads but since there is a double theory section, I wanted to make a topic about it. I'm just curious how many people believe in the double theory.

So the main question is clear: Do you believe that he used doubles or not? It doesn't matter in what era, and it's only about Michael not about his kids etc.
And the other question is: Are you a fan or not?

Second: It's not my intention to start an argue here, I only want to know how many double-believers there are.


I (still) don't believe that he used doubles for public performances like speeches or concerts. I think he only used them to mislead for example the papparazzi.
And I'm a fan for almost 20 years now.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: the arabian nights on April 13, 2010, 05:11:54 AM
yes i believe he used doubles and stunt pp and standins

it seems to be normal practice for him

but he is still the real deal

i was not a fan - but who knows now?
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: FinlanDiana on April 13, 2010, 05:59:42 AM
I believe that they would have two or even that he has used doubles.

I always liked MJ music but I do not know whether to call me a fan... but now after the "death" I can say that I'm a fan of MJ <3  (better late than never)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: simalves on April 13, 2010, 07:20:35 AM
Okay have edited my response

Did Michael use doubles?
No - definitely not for concerts/live performances or interviews.

Were there doubles?
Yes hired by the Company, maybe to discredit him.

Am I fan?
Not fanatic - but an ardent admirer.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Kuki on April 13, 2010, 07:29:40 AM
I believe he used doubles, but only to escape from hysterical fans or stuff like that. No way he used doubles during his concerts, I simply cannot believe that. That would be mean he fouled people around for such a long time and IMO he wouldnt do that. He is such a perfectionist, I dont think that he would leave big events like concerts or big interviews to doubles. He would do it his way.

And I am a big fan since Billie Jean, so around 1983.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 13, 2010, 07:39:07 AM
Thank you all for responding, I hope more people will give their reaction.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: *Mo* on April 13, 2010, 07:41:00 AM
MJJ1982 asked 2 simple questions:

1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?

Please just stick to answering these two questions, and refrain from adding your personal opinion.  We have plenty of double threads in which that can be done.  Let's just keep this one simple and clean.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: ER911 on April 13, 2010, 07:54:20 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
First of all, I've asked this before in double threads but since there is a double theory section, I wanted to make a topic about it. I'm just curious how many people believe in the double theory.

So the main question is clear: Do you believe that he used doubles or not? It doesn't matter in what era, and it's only about Michael not about his kids etc.
And the other question is: Are you a fan or not?

Second: It's not my intention to start an argue here, I only want to know how many double-believers there are.


I (still) don't believe that he used doubles for public performances like speeches or concerts. I think he only used them to mislead for example the papparazzi.
And I'm a fan for almost 20 years now.

Yes & yes
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: lolittalempicka on April 13, 2010, 08:44:36 AM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not? yes! 100%
2) Are you a fan or not? Yes, but not a fanatic. more an admirer
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: the arabian nights on April 13, 2010, 08:52:22 AM
i think mike hired his doubles
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on April 13, 2010, 09:12:39 AM
Not dure yet if he used doubles....

Yes, Ive been a fan since Off The Wall
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on April 13, 2010, 09:58:31 AM
doubles: YES, but I'm not fixed yet to what extent...

fan: YES,proud fan since Off the wall  :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: itsall4luv on April 13, 2010, 10:30:47 AM
Yes (predominantly as a decoy) and Yes, since Off The Wall.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: RK on April 13, 2010, 10:43:05 AM
Yes I believe MJ used doubles
Yes I am a fan since J5 days
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Sarahli on April 13, 2010, 11:24:50 AM
YES (to a certain extent)
YES (love the music and the man for more than 15 years now, I'm 29)

God bless you.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 13, 2010, 11:35:47 AM
Yes to question 1.
Most definitely YES to question 2.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: _Dangerous_ on April 13, 2010, 11:38:16 AM
Yes I do
Yes I am :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 13, 2010, 11:58:56 AM
Question 1 - Yes, most likely.
Question 2 -Biggest fan ever. :)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on April 13, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
I think he might have used them to mislead the paparazzi but I'm not 100% sure.
And yes I am a huge fan. :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: airieslady on April 13, 2010, 12:07:29 PM
Yes, for a long time
Yes, since J5
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: awesome1 on April 13, 2010, 12:18:55 PM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?

1) Yes to an extent
2) Yes  :D  ( not as long as the rest of ya  :lol: )
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 13, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Quote from: "Kuki"
I believe he used doubles, but only to escape from hysterical fans or stuff like that. No way he used doubles during his concerts, I simply cannot believe that. That would be mean he fouled people around for such a long time and IMO he wouldnt do that. He is such a perfectionist, I dont think that he would leave big events like concerts or big interviews to doubles. He would do it his way.

And I am a big fan since Billie Jean, so around 1983.
yea i agree. i'm a big fan i believe he used doubles in his later years for certain reasons. and t get people off his back, i do not believe he used doubles in his early years like thriller and bad, those were his peak eras he was really hitting the charts at those times, so i dont think he would use doubles for that, that would be fooling his fans which i doubt hed do, and i agree i dont agree he used doubles for concerts either, i dont think any double or impersonator could ever do what that man does, not spot on at least. :)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Jacksonology on April 13, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
[youtube:2n4t9pn5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk7sFV3rMkA&feature=related[/youtube:2n4t9pn5]

1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?


1. Yes.

2. No, I am not fan.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Loes on April 13, 2010, 03:11:34 PM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?


1) No  (only decoy's like Navi sometimes)
2) Yes

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Do on April 13, 2010, 03:24:16 PM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?

1) I don't believe that he used doubles for speeches, interviews or concerts, but only decoys to distract huge crowds or papparazzi on certain events.

2) Yes, a big fan for 30 years, wow I was madly in love with him when I was younger (and secretly still am, but hey, I'm married now :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Jacksonology on April 13, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
[youtube:gxknffju]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq5KobuF0pc[/youtube:gxknffju]Double?
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Jacksonology on April 13, 2010, 03:32:58 PM
[youtube:14nk25bv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID0zx83H1Y0[/youtube:14nk25bv]Ok so not Michael. He is to short, Wig isn't to good. um Walmart Sunglasses? Those shades look cheap.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: blue moon on April 13, 2010, 03:58:12 PM
1)Do you believe he used doubles?

2)Are you a fan?

1) Yes

2) a little bit
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: the arabian nights on April 13, 2010, 03:59:47 PM
jacksonlogy that is mike

it looks like a very expensive jacket

this one below is also mike

[youtube:1bfjfcdu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq5KobuF0pc&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube:1bfjfcdu]

as i have said before mike best disguise is just himself

his fans and hoax believers could not recognise him in daylight
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: JukeBox on April 13, 2010, 04:10:07 PM
Yes, I believe he used doubles.

Yes, I'm a fan, by the definition below, I admire Michael Jackson a lot. I disagree that I am a fanatic, as some people may define the word fan.


fan
2? ?/fæn/ Show Spelled[fan] Show IPA
–noun
an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; a great fan of Charlie Chaplin.
Source: Dictionary.com
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: *Mo* on April 13, 2010, 04:13:52 PM
Again:

MJJ1982 asked 2 simple questions:

1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?

Please just stick to answering these two questions, and refrain from adding your personal opinion.  We have plenty of double threads in which that can be done.  Let's just keep this one simple and clean, so no videos either.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: mjj29081958 on April 13, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
:arrow:  Yes, I'm a fan.

 :arrow:  -Identical Doubles/ prostethic makeup? No.

              -Everyday life: Maybe fans/paps distractors. People that "looks like him" in masks+ sunglasses + hats... If so.

              -Concerts: Stunt man, for the "magic tricks", that’s very obvious (e.g. Dangerous Tour).

              -Speeches/ performances/ public appearances: No.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 13, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Again:

MJJ1982 asked 2 simple questions:

1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
2) Are you a fan or not?

Please just stick to answering these two questions, and refrain from adding your personal opinion.  We have plenty of double threads in which that can be done.  Let's just keep this one simple and clean, so no videos either.

Thank you!

Thank you Mo.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: ROFL on April 15, 2010, 07:04:22 AM
He used doubles  maybe in this is it only.and also to misslead the papz  . But I'm open minded ...

And I'm not a fan
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: AgentBJ on April 15, 2010, 08:59:50 AM
I think, he uses/used doubles and am I a fan? No...more an "unknown friend".  8-)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Datroot on April 15, 2010, 09:02:35 AM
Quote from: "ROFL"
He used doubles  maybe in this is it only.and also to misslead the papz  . But I'm open minded ...

And I'm not a fan

Same here - I am a fan
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on April 17, 2010, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: "Kuki"
I believe he used doubles, but only to escape from hysterical fans or stuff like that. No way he used doubles during his concerts, I simply cannot believe that. That would be mean he fouled people around for such a long time and IMO he wouldnt do that. He is such a perfectionist, I dont think that he would leave big events like concerts or big interviews to doubles. He would do it his way.

And I am a big fan since Billie Jean, so around 1983.

YES YES YES!!!
I agree with you...
I dont believe in the 02 double or concert doubles at all but you said it right. I think perhaps he could have used doubles just to get away from the press and fans at time but never ever for concerts or in interviews or anything like that. Nobody can do Michael like himself so why would he want anyone to? Like they say if you want something done right DO IT YOURSELF
which Michael did.

TOTAL FAN all the way. Loved him since i was born!!! And love him even more today

I think more of the NON-fans tend to believe only what they want to believe because they are not true Michael fans/lovers. Are the fans a bit "blinded by love" at times. Well maybe we are but i think the true fans just know. We know Michael's heart.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Kuki on April 17, 2010, 12:12:57 PM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
I think more of the NON-fans tend to believe only what they want to believe because they are not true Michael fans/lovers. Are the fans a bit "blinded by love" at times. Well maybe we are but i think the true fans just know. We know Michael's heart.

Amen!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 17, 2010, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"


I think more of the NON-fans tend to believe only what they want to believe because they are not true Michael fans/lovers. Are the fans a bit "blinded by love" at times. Well maybe we are but i think the true fans just know. We know Michael's heart.

There are people who are a longtime fan, and believe in the double theory.
But I think, and maybe I'm wrong, that most of the double believers are 1) no fan, or 2) fan since his death
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Mj5StarChick on April 17, 2010, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
So the main question is clear: Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
And the other question is: Are you a fan or not?
Yes i believe he used doubles but NOT for his concerts,publicly speaking,main events(or important either or ;) ) I only think he used them when sometimes out and about with MANY paparazzi that's it ;)
I am MOST DEF a HUG FAN!!! I have been a fan for 8 years!!! :D (9 if you count me at the age of 5 which is when i started loving him :D )
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on April 17, 2010, 01:12:10 PM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?

Yes, I believe he used doubles as decoys to escape large crowds, misdirection of the paparazzi, and for illusions/stunts in his performances BUT THAT IS ALL!

2) Are you a fan or not?

No, I am not a fan. I started my "Discovering Michael Jackson Journey" on June 25, 2009.
I do  not own a single CD, do not own a copy of TII, saw the movie ONCE, never read a book written by him or about him, had only heard a couple of his songs over the years (usually on the car's radio or like thriller at Halloween), never followed the trial, don't read tabloids and I don't watch TV...
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: techdiva on April 17, 2010, 04:08:21 PM
Yes, I do believe MJ used doubles. There's a thread about Rockwell (Kennedy William Gordy) doubled from MJ in the 80's and 90's.  Here's the post
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7811&hilit=rockwell
Here's a video of Ben Jackson an impersonator
[youtube:gfph51l9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJ9myY_Mds[/youtube:gfph51l9]

Yes, I have been a fan since MJ was 9 years old.
Also, in MJ's jail photo, they stated he was 5'11". I thought MJ was 5'9".
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on April 17, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
Quote from: "techdiva"
Yes, I do believe MJ used doubles. There's a thread about Rockwell (Kennedy William Gordy) doubled from MJ in the 80's and 90's.  Here's the post
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7811&hilit=rockwell
Here's a video of Ben Jackson an impersonator
[youtube:29lyh36o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJ9myY_Mds[/youtube:29lyh36o]

Yes, I have been a fan since MJ was 9 years old.
Also, in MJ's jail photo, they stated he was 5'11". I thought MJ was 5'9".

I always thought he was taller about 5'10 to 5'11 range seems right

It is possible to grow in height until your about 25 so i think maybe he was 5'9 and then grew a bit more
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 17, 2010, 06:06:09 PM
Can we please stay ontopic, I'd only like to see my questions answered  ;)

Thank you
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: techdiva on April 17, 2010, 08:25:29 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Can we please stay ontopic, I'd only like to see my questions answered  ;)

Thank you
I think we are answering your question about MJ using doubles. We are showing examples of how MJ used doubles and trying to figure out which ones. It was also mention on this forum that MJ used a double during his 2005 child molestation trial. I feel when ppl do go off topic the clues goes in another direction. It gets me to think and do research. IMO.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: 2good2btrue on April 17, 2010, 08:37:20 PM
Yes, but only as decoys, not performances.

Not really a fan, but have grown to love him because of this hoax forum :D  :D As always with L.O.V.E.  xox
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on April 18, 2010, 02:10:35 AM
Quote from: "techdiva"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Can we please stay ontopic, I'd only like to see my questions answered  ;)

Thank you
I think we are answering your question about MJ using doubles. We are showing examples of how MJ used doubles and trying to figure out which ones. It was also mention on this forum that MJ used a double during his 2005 child molestation trial. I feel when ppl do go off topic the clues goes in another direction. It gets me to think and do research. IMO.

I didn't start this thread to see 'proof' or start a discussion I only asked 2 questions. There are several other topics where examples can be post.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: angel on April 18, 2010, 02:43:43 PM
1.  No, only for stunts and occasional decoys.
2.  Yes, for about 30 years.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: imperfect_symmetry on April 18, 2010, 08:24:29 PM
Do you believe that he used doubles or not?

- Yes.

Are you a fan or not?

- No.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on April 19, 2010, 12:09:33 AM
No, only for stunts and decoys.

yes i am a huge fan!!!!!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on April 22, 2010, 06:10:45 PM
probably


maybe
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: rag doll on May 02, 2010, 04:48:59 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
probably


maybe

Ditto for me!  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: mmz on May 02, 2010, 07:16:58 AM
1: No,I don't believe, in the double theory (as part of the hoax).I believe he just used for double for stunts,and in rare occasions.for the fans crowd (but not public events)..
2:YES.100% fan for 25 years now.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on May 02, 2010, 08:36:16 AM
Quote from: "rag doll"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
probably


maybe

Ditto for me!  ;)  :D

You are MAYBE a fan????
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 02, 2010, 09:40:15 AM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
Quote from: "rag doll"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
probably


maybe

Ditto for me!  ;)  :D

You are MAYBE a fan????


loaded question ,loaded answer.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on May 02, 2010, 09:53:59 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
Quote from: "rag doll"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
probably


maybe

Ditto for me!  ;)  :D

You are MAYBE a fan????


loaded question ,loaded answer.

Loaded question :?:
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 02, 2010, 10:06:36 AM
in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on May 02, 2010, 12:12:57 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.

First of all, I'm the one who asked the question, and second, there's nothing that I want to prove :roll:
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 02, 2010, 12:23:26 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.

First of all, I'm the one who asked the question, and second, there's nothing that I want to prove :roll:

okay, i'll take your word on it.
what if anything did you conclude from your responses/
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on May 02, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.

First of all, I'm the one who asked the question, and second, there's nothing that I want to prove :roll:

okay, i'll take your word on it.
what if anything did you conclude from your responses/

I would say there are alot of DISBelievers and non-fans on a MJ Hoax Forum
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 02, 2010, 12:54:44 PM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.

First of all, I'm the one who asked the question, and second, there's nothing that I want to prove :roll:

okay, i'll take your word on it.
what if anything did you conclude from your responses/

I would say there are alot of DISBelievers and non-fans on a MJ Hoax Forum

disbelievers in a hoax or doubles?
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on May 02, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
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in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.

First of all, I'm the one who asked the question, and second, there's nothing that I want to prove :roll:

okay, i'll take your word on it.
what if anything did you conclude from your responses/

I would say there are alot of DISBelievers and non-fans on a MJ Hoax Forum

disbelievers in a hoax or doubles?

Well from what i have read in other topics there are some of BOTH on here
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 02, 2010, 01:09:06 PM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
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in my opionion the person who put the questin out was trying to prove that the micheal fans(fanatics) jus tcouldn't believe he would use double while people who weren't would be more open minded about it. I was just sort of playing with my andwere because i don't like it when people try to force the conclution with this way of asking the question. my husband tries to us this tacktic(sp?) all the time.

First of all, I'm the one who asked the question, and second, there's nothing that I want to prove :roll:

okay, i'll take your word on it.
what if anything did you conclude from your responses/

I would say there are alot of DISBelievers and non-fans on a MJ Hoax Forum

disbelievers in a hoax or doubles?

Well from what i have read in other topics there are some of BOTH on here

maybe , but i think for sure most realize that something is terribly wrong with the whole scenerio(sp) and we have to keep questioning it. perhaps  the question we should ask is could someone else have used doubles in a scheme to use or hurt him?
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on May 02, 2010, 01:32:47 PM
I think we should tally up just WHO is a believer and who isnt (of the Hoax)

Simple YES or NO
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: mmz on May 02, 2010, 02:11:29 PM
it is good anyway also to have not-fans in this site! I am a huge fan,but somehow if a not-fan investigates on the hoax,it means that it is not just a crazy feeling of those who would like him still alive! It is good I think...if there is always respect...
Sorry for the OT
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on May 02, 2010, 05:52:10 PM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
I think we should tally up just WHO is a believer and who isnt (of the Hoax)

Simple YES or NO

But that's not my question  ;)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Keep The Faith on May 02, 2010, 06:12:52 PM
1.Probably...i belive yes.
2.Im a fan for as long as i know myself :D...21 years old now, my mom taped me when i was 3 yrs old dancing on MJ probably then is when i become a fan lol, i was in love and scared with thriller  then rofl :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 02, 2010, 07:00:12 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
I think we should tally up just WHO is a believer and who isnt (of the Hoax)

Simple YES or NO

But that's not my question  ;)

needs a new thread , if you start it they will come
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on May 02, 2010, 08:02:27 PM
#1:] yes, I TOTALLY believe that MJ used doubles, because I've watched TII numerous times, and every time I do watch it, I always look at the ears; they're always changing (plus if you watch the part when
"Michael" is looking at the computer, after that woman is talking about "The Drill", that does NOT look like MJ; his eyes are not beaddy :roll: )

#2:] I wasn't a fan before, because I think I never heard of Michael Jackson before, but after the June 25th incident, I became a fan right away. (he's the king of the music that I love the most; no one can change that, ever)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on May 03, 2010, 12:05:53 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
I think we should tally up just WHO is a believer and who isnt (of the Hoax)

Simple YES or NO

But that's not my question  ;)

needs a new thread , if you start it they will come

You can start it if you want. It's a little bit a strange question to me, to ask on a hoaxforum how many beLIEvers there are   ;)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: rag doll on May 03, 2010, 12:14:48 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
I think we should tally up just WHO is a believer and who isnt (of the Hoax)

Simple YES or NO

But that's not my question  ;)

needs a new thread , if you start it they will come

You can start it if you want. It's a little bit a strange question to me, to ask on a hoaxforum how many beLIEvers there are   ;)

Please don´t mind me getting off topic for a second, but allow me to add my "Creed" here: I´m a beLIEver - a true one.
The rest is silence.... 8-)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 08, 2010, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: "techdiva"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Can we please stay ontopic, I'd only like to see my questions answered  ;)

Thank you
I think we are answering your question about MJ using doubles. We are showing examples of how MJ used doubles and trying to figure out which ones. It was also mention on this forum that MJ used a double during his 2005 child molestation trial. I feel when ppl do go off topic the clues goes in another direction. It gets me to think and do research. IMO.

it seems to me that pictures and videos have been used in topics and sparked our thoughts in the direction of  another one. all of the topics can ultimately  come together to help.

by the way there is a new thread about an article written in 2009 about using doubles for the tour. i had seen it earlier and couldn't find it again and didn't want to mention it. i didn't know if the implication of the questions were to imply he was being decieving in a corrupt way only for gain.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Its her on May 09, 2010, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: "mmz"
it is good anyway also to have not-fans in this site! I am a huge fan,but somehow  

if a not-fan investigates on the hoax, it means that it is not :o just a crazy feeling of those who would like him still alive! 8-)

It is good I think...if there is always R-E-S-P-E-C-T... :)

VERY TRUE---WORTH REPEATING--and VERY interesting :!:
I am=
100% beLIEver!
100% fan!
 "MJ" = doubles  :? :? :? :? :roll:
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MzInfo on May 13, 2010, 03:50:55 PM
Michael has definitely used body doubles. I remember year ago they had a special about him on the "Fabulous Life" on VH1 and one of his doubles was on the show. He and other doubles had plastic surgery to look like Michael to be used as decoys.  :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 13, 2010, 11:22:14 PM
Quote from: "MzInfo"
Michael has definitely used body doubles. I remember year ago they had a special about him on the "Fabulous Life" on VH1 and one of his doubles was on the show. He and other doubles had plastic surgery to look like Michael to be used as decoys.  :D


yet people can say micheal is wacko
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on May 18, 2010, 12:56:26 PM
-Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
Besides from the stuntdoubles (and decoys)...NO!

-And the other question is: Are you a fan or not?
Yes, since I was 2 or 3 years old.  :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: sweet1 on May 19, 2010, 08:57:45 PM
Yes! I am a fan
Yes! I believed he used doubles.
Keep the Faith! :)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MissG on May 25, 2010, 06:15:26 PM
Just be careful with the "new and only" MJ double going in facebook and myspace, Barry Shaw. Be careful, he is indirectly promoting a sect (cult) in his blog and claming to be a cult that MJ was interested in. CAREFUL.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: suspicious mind on May 25, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Just be careful with the "new and only" MJ double going in facebook and myspace, Barry Shaw. Be careful, he is indirectly promoting a sect (cult) in his blog and claming to be a cult that MJ was interested in. CAREFUL.

scary
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Avijackson on June 10, 2010, 01:21:09 AM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not?   Noooooooooo......    :D
2) Are you a fan or not?  Absolutely......    :D
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Sangre on August 09, 2010, 11:20:59 AM
I believe Michael Jackson used impersonators and lookalikes to chase of paparazzi. Because it's a fact. People working with him during tours have addressed that.

But MJ did not have a twin or an identical double/brother!!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: chappie on August 09, 2010, 01:10:14 PM
1) Do you believe that he used doubles or not? Noooooooooo......Neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Only Dave Dave ;)
2) Are you a fan or not? Yesssssssssssss.....
Chappie
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: steph on August 13, 2010, 04:05:25 PM
yes and yes
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: GoOoF on August 13, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
I'm pretty sure that he used doubles. I've watched TII a lot of times and no way i'm tellin' NO WAY that it's him in most of the scenes.( and not to mention the O2 or the last 20years)
And as bein' a fan..i don't even like the word: fan. That means fanatic to me and no offense. So no, i'm not a fan, i'm just not that type. I love and respect the man, but for me he's not the king of pop or an icon..he's an island for me. Everytime i'm in a bad mood, it's enough to put his record on, that just makes me smile. And i love that. I just love the man without bein' a fan. Is it possible? :)
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: anotherpartofme on August 13, 2010, 04:51:21 PM
1 I think he used doubles

2 Yes, I am a fan!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: backstager on August 13, 2010, 09:13:58 PM
Do you think he used doubles?
Most definitely!

Are you a fan?
No. But I love and respect him as a person.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: selphiemax on August 14, 2010, 05:38:08 AM
question 1   yes (decoy)
question 2    yes since J5 days
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: TracyK on August 14, 2010, 01:02:59 PM
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Kuki on August 14, 2010, 02:59:48 PM
Quote from: "TracyK"
I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

Exactly my question! I really wonder why people do that.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: MJJ1982 on August 14, 2010, 03:02:11 PM
Quote from: "TracyK"

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

You took the words right out of my mouth... This is the best question I've seen in a long time!
I just don't get it, I'm not going to dig in someone's life, if I'm not a fan.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Glinda on August 14, 2010, 03:20:56 PM
I'm not a fan, I like the hoax!







Now shoot me :twisted:


And yes there are doubles
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 14, 2010, 05:34:52 PM
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

Some people just want to be educated and are really interested in others. And are you a fan of your mother, or neighbour or nephew? I think not, yet you care right?

Stop making assumptions like that, not being a fan is not a crime. Fans haunted him all those years, fans made it impossible for him to live a normal life, fans attacked him, wanted to tear him apart, physically hurt him, think about that and look up the meaning of fan please, than think about your assumptions.

This is the 100th time someone has to say something about us not being a fan and I am sick of it. I am not a fan, shoot me! I only respect the man and like his music. Besides that I think he is interesting and this story is fascinating. Wow, what a crime!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: sIllY09 on August 15, 2010, 03:06:05 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

Some people just want to be educated and are really interested in others. And are you a fan of your mother, or neighbour or nephew? I think not, yet you care right?

Stop making assumptions like that, not being a fan is not a crime. Fans haunted him all those years, fans made it impossible for him to live a normal life, fans attacked him, wanted to tear him apart, physically hurt him, think about that and look up the meaning of fan please, than think about your assumptions.

This is the 100th time someone has to say something about us not being a fan and I am sick of it. I am not a fan, shoot me! I only respect the man and like his music. Besides that I think he is interesting and this story is fascinating. Wow, what a crime!

You took the words right out of my mouth Souza.I'm not a fan but have admired him for all the good he did do so far in his life by helping millions of people from all over the world whether its through his music or through him personally.You don't have to be a fan to appreciate someone who has done far more then anyone else in this world towards human kind.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: Kuki on August 15, 2010, 03:09:45 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

Some people just want to be educated and are really interested in others. And are you a fan of your mother, or neighbour or nephew? I think not, yet you care right?

Stop making assumptions like that, not being a fan is not a crime. Fans haunted him all those years, fans made it impossible for him to live a normal life, fans attacked him, wanted to tear him apart, physically hurt him, think about that and look up the meaning of fan please, than think about your assumptions.

This is the 100th time someone has to say something about us not being a fan and I am sick of it. I am not a fan, shoot me! I only respect the man and like his music. Besides that I think he is interesting and this story is fascinating. Wow, what a crime!

Exactly the reaction I expected. Why do WE always got shoot when we ask this? I think it is a legitimate and normal question so normal answer would be appriciated. I thought we could ask everything, well, it's clear we cannot.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: *Mo* on August 15, 2010, 03:28:02 AM
Quote from: "Kuki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

Some people just want to be educated and are really interested in others. And are you a fan of your mother, or neighbour or nephew? I think not, yet you care right?

Stop making assumptions like that, not being a fan is not a crime. Fans haunted him all those years, fans made it impossible for him to live a normal life, fans attacked him, wanted to tear him apart, physically hurt him, think about that and look up the meaning of fan please, than think about your assumptions.

This is the 100th time someone has to say something about us not being a fan and I am sick of it. I am not a fan, shoot me! I only respect the man and like his music. Besides that I think he is interesting and this story is fascinating. Wow, what a crime!

Exactly the reaction I expected. Why do WE always got shoot when we ask this? I think it is a legitimate and normal question so normal answer would be appriciated. I thought we could ask everything, well, it's clear we cannot.

We have answered that question time after time, and we're tired of repeating ourselves.  Please do me a favor and use the search function of these boards or, simply go to the index of this website.  There you will find the answer spelled out.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: angelwings on August 15, 2010, 03:31:55 AM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
MJJ1982, here I go:
Quote
Do you believe that he used doubles or not?
yes, he did
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Are you a fan or not?
not a fan
Yes!  Absolutely!
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: GoOoF on August 15, 2010, 06:03:32 AM
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

What does it mean for you "really care abt him", or "being a fan"?
I'm just curious, really.
Not having T-shirts with his face on them, or posters on my bedroom-wall, not having an MJ-doll means i don't really care abt him? I'm a fan of arts, a fan of good music, a fan of nice movies, but i'm not a fan of a person. Even if this person is the most talented one on the Earth. To love and respect someone, and being their fan are two different things. Most of the fans love their ICON, i like, respect, and tryin' to figure out the man himself. He couldn't live a normal life ( what he wanted so badly ) because of the so-called fans who tried to tear him apart everytime they seen him. He couldn't go to the cinema, he couldn't go to the mall, he couldn't go anywhere, because of THEM.
If these people would REALLY care abt him so much, they wouldn't do that with him. I know that all of you are nice people, and i don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, 'cause fortunately everyone is different. I don't really care if you are a fan or not, that doesn't matter, as long as we respect each other. Everyone on this forum CARES abt him, that's for sure. Why is it such a big deal that some of us don't dream abt bein' his wife? All that goes for nothing. It's not a race, there are no losers and winners, it's not like some of us have more right to be here, and others have not. We r here for the same reason, finding the truth. And we r here, 'cause we DO CARE.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: *Mo* on August 15, 2010, 02:13:13 PM
Quote from: "GoOoF"
Quote from: "TracyK"
I do not believe that he used doubles for performances (cept Thriller to rest)I don't believe that he used doubles for his public appearances. It is widely known and he admits this himself that he did employ decoys so he can escape the paparazzi and crazy fans. Been a fan for 32 years.

I see that a few people say they are not fans... If people are not fans, why waste so much energy on finding out the truth? Whats the agenda if you don't really care too much for him? This is a legitimate question. I really want to know. How can one spend this much time on Michael and not be a fan? He has so much to offer the world. He gave so much to the world.. Why not be a fan of a wonderful human being like that?

What does it mean for you "really care abt him", or "being a fan"?
I'm just curious, really.
Not having T-shirts with his face on them, or posters on my bedroom-wall, not having an MJ-doll means i don't really care abt him? I'm a fan of arts, a fan of good music, a fan of nice movies, but i'm not a fan of a person. Even if this person is the most talented one on the Earth. To love and respect someone, and being their fan are two different things. Most of the fans love their ICON, i like, respect, and tryin' to figure out the man himself. He couldn't live a normal life ( what he wanted so badly ) because of the so-called fans who tried to tear him apart everytime they seen him. He couldn't go to the cinema, he couldn't go to the mall, he couldn't go anywhere, because of THEM.
If these people would REALLY care abt him so much, they wouldn't do that with him. I know that all of you are nice people, and i don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, 'cause fortunately everyone is different. I don't really care if you are a fan or not, that doesn't matter, as long as we respect each other. Everyone on this forum CARES abt him, that's for sure. Why is it such a big deal that some of us don't dream abt bein' his wife? All that goes for nothing. It's not a race, there are no losers and winners, it's not like some of us have more right to be here, and others have not. We r here for the same reason, finding the truth. And we r here, 'cause we DO CARE.

Thank you GoOoF!

After this it's about time to cut the "You are not a fan so..." crap, the ones with questions about it have all the answers they need.
Title: Re: Who thinks that Michael used doubles?
Post by: backstager on August 15, 2010, 10:22:45 PM
TracyK, in answer to your question. Why do I have to be a fan? I love and respect him as a PERSON. You can't be a fan of every person you've ever cared about or respected. It just wouldn't make sense. And on a side note: The fans are the ones who kept him awake at night screaming outside of his hotel window. They're the same ones who tackle, pull, and tug at him every waking second. And the same ones who invaded his privacy. Why would I want to be a part of that chaos? I love and respect the man, but at the end of the day I am no fanatic. But I do wish him well.

There's my legitimate answer.
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