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Title: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 06, 2010, 01:19:46 PM
After this topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297), again about doubles and decoys, I have a question.

Could you guys post 1 picture here of which you are 100% certain it's Mike, and IF you believe in doubles, could you post 1 picture of which you think is a double? I am very curious about that. I will post mine later.

Let's start with the BAD era.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson
Post by: DancingTheDream on April 06, 2010, 01:25:37 PM
Do you want any particular era (such as the later years) - or will any era do?  - thats a lot of photos!!
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson
Post by: CrazyBanana on April 06, 2010, 01:31:33 PM
hate to post this pic but I think this is Mike.... I also think it could be after the accident that he started to use doubles because he felt threatened
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/07/17/1225751/181922-wacko-jacko-039-s-disco-inferno.jpg)

this I think is a double...or It is MJ and the rest in the documentary are doubles  :roll:

(http://www.biocrawler.com/w/images/c/ce/Tv_martin_bashir_doc_michael_jackson_with_gavin.jpg)
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 06, 2010, 01:32:10 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Do you want any particular era (such as the later years) - or will any era do?  - thats a lot of photos!!

Good question, let's start with the BAD era.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson
Post by: CrazyBanana on April 06, 2010, 01:34:29 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Do you want any particular era (such as the later years) - or will any era do?  - thats a lot of photos!!

Good question, let's start with the BAD era.

I guess Ill post the pic from that era that I think its MJ 4 sure  ;)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bDEP5v78leM/SkTk89YRQkI/AAAAAAAABog/dCSuX5ptRlY/s400/badera266.jpg)
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: DancingTheDream on April 06, 2010, 01:37:17 PM
BAD era is my fave era!

All Michael:
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: CrazyBanana on April 06, 2010, 01:51:21 PM
back 4 the double in bad era...
this photo has been posted here on the forum and I still cant explain it ...

I think the one on the right looks like MJ from the begining of the video but the one on the left looks more like MJ to me....
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: Tina K. on April 06, 2010, 02:15:41 PM
This is Michael 100 %. I'm not into the double thing.[attachment=0:2e9oz0ln]masl04_michael_jackson_1983.jpg[/attachment:2e9oz0ln]
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on April 06, 2010, 03:52:59 PM
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/f15b0404fe.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/34e3ef7ec5.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/e5cb608e5e.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

All Michael  :D
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: Sarahli on April 06, 2010, 04:30:09 PM
(http://mjbaltic.com/Pictures/BadEra.jpg)

Michael.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: jacilovesmichael on April 06, 2010, 11:16:38 PM
I'd like to see more pics of what everyone thinks isn't Michael.

To me, it didn't get hard to tell until the late 90's. I didn't suspect it until then at least.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 07, 2010, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
After this topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297), again about doubles and decoys, I have a question.

Could you guys post 1 picture here of which you are 100% certain it's Mike, and IF you believe in doubles, could you post 1 picture of which you think is a double? I am very curious about that. I will post mine later.

Let's start with the BAD era.
Personally in my opinion all of the bad era was michael, theres something about his eyes that no double could ever manage, theres something in his eyes i can always tell michael by the eyes, his eyes have something special that no one could imitate or copy, thats how i tell michael apart from the doubles and stuff. E'Cas looked a shit load like michael in the bad era, but i knew it wasnt him because of the eyes, Michael's eyes just cant be copied or imitated.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: *Mo* on April 07, 2010, 12:38:45 AM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
After this topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297), again about doubles and decoys, I have a question.

Could you guys post 1 picture here of which you are 100% certain it's Mike, and IF you believe in doubles, could you post 1 picture of which you think is a double? I am very curious about that. I will post mine later.

Let's start with the BAD era.
Personally in my opinion all of the bad era was michael, theres something about his eyes that no double could ever manage, theres something in his eyes i can always tell michael by the eyes, his eyes have something special that no one could imitate or copy, thats how i tell michael apart from the doubles and stuff. E'Cas looked a shit load like michael in the bad era, but i knew it wasnt him because of the eyes, Michael's eyes just cant be copied or imitated.

When we're talking about doubles, we're not talking about E'Cas, Navi etcetera.  Those are impersonators, known by the public.  The real doubles are not 'known' by the public.  They have been around for a long time, but no one 'knows' them.  Do you understand what I mean?
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: Zen on April 07, 2010, 01:10:38 AM
When Michael grew 2" (it wasn't shoes), had different eyes, different distance from
nose to mouth, had similar but not same teeth (cap-on smile is literally cap-on as
a set).  
You think CM went back to the  house to remove traces of identity of other
Michael??
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 07, 2010, 02:08:26 AM
Quote from: "Zen"
When Michael grew 2" (it wasn't shoes), had different eyes, different distance from
nose to mouth, had similar but not same teeth (cap-on smile is literally cap-on as
a set).  
You think CM went back to the  house to remove traces of identity of other
Michael??

I don't think there were traces of the real deal in that house...
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: liegi on April 07, 2010, 02:12:51 AM
NEW YORK - Michael Jackson has been named as the most famous guest star on “The Simpsons”, and also the strangest, according to a new book.


Titled “The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History,” the book on the much-beloved Fox cartoon series was authored by former Vanity Fair staffer John Ortved.

In the book, the show’s writers and producers have revealed just how bizarre it was working with the former King of Pop, who appeared on the 1991-1992 season as a bald, 400-pound mental patient who believes he’s Michael Jackson while sharing a hospital room with Homer.

The crew did a rehearsal “at Jackson’s manager’s house, which was unheard of-we never left the studio-and it was a crazy environment where we were all served food by Sikhs in white robes and turbans,” recalled writer Wallace Wolodarsky.

“I remember having to make conversation with Michael Jackson. That had to be one of the freakiest moments of my life . . . he wasn’t quite the figure he’s become today, but still, I remember even then, staring at his nose, and it was all about, ‘Don’t Stare at His Nose,’” The New York Post quoted Hank Azaria, the voice of Moe and Chief Wiggum, as saying.

And when Jackson was about to come into the studio, editor Brian Roberts recalls: “I literally didn’t want to look at him. So I get my head buried in the script, and then at one point in the script he sang, ‘Man in the Mirror,’ and I said, ‘All right. How many times in your life are you sitting next to Michael Jackson and he’s singing “Man in the Mirror?” I just gotta look.’”

So I look over to Michael Jackson, and he wasn’t singing! He had a sing-along guy next to him who was actually singing for him. I couldn’t believe it. I was like, What kinda weird [expletive] is this?” he added.

Therefore it was this person--not an impersonator!
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 07, 2010, 02:13:30 AM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
After this topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297), again about doubles and decoys, I have a question.

Could you guys post 1 picture here of which you are 100% certain it's Mike, and IF you believe in doubles, could you post 1 picture of which you think is a double? I am very curious about that. I will post mine later.

Let's start with the BAD era.
Personally in my opinion all of the bad era was michael, theres something about his eyes that no double could ever manage, theres something in his eyes i can always tell michael by the eyes, his eyes have something special that no one could imitate or copy, thats how i tell michael apart from the doubles and stuff. E'Cas looked a shit load like michael in the bad era, but i knew it wasnt him because of the eyes, Michael's eyes just cant be copied or imitated.


Oh I have to admit I think it all looks like him in the BAD era, but these pics got me thinking...look at the ears:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/489.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/057.jpg)

It's not that I want to prove there were doubles, i have already seen doubles for sure. I would like to know what happened and I just think the doubles play a big role in this, good or bad.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: imperfect_symmetry on April 07, 2010, 03:17:17 AM
still not so sure if this is photoshopped but I think it's Michael
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/ ... 202/41.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/mjgrl4ever/Bad%20era%202/41.jpg)

and this one has the same ears with the second picture in Souza's post, don't you think?
http://i30.tinypic.com/2ngwqbk.jpg (http://i30.tinypic.com/2ngwqbk.jpg)

I'm not saying that these aren't Michael but I just think these are quite doubtful...
http://tinypic.com/r/21qtqr/5 (http://tinypic.com/r/21qtqr/5)
http://tinypic.com/r/ka3i21/5 (http://tinypic.com/r/ka3i21/5)
http://tinypic.com/r/iykfh3/5 (http://tinypic.com/r/iykfh3/5)

Really different from here.. http://tinypic.com/r/10ct404/5 (http://tinypic.com/r/10ct404/5)
just my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: simalves on April 07, 2010, 09:08:15 AM
Didn't Michael retake most of his famous pics when he grew older and had his plastic surgery. So the bad video pic is like that - him in the original and him so many years later. I read it somewhere and had the pics side by side - but I can't seem to find it right now.

Also all pics of him at the memorial and in the booklets are really him - I always wondered why the pics they feature are only of the bad era - did the family doubt if it was the real Michael too?

Feels like we are in one of those FBI flicks with all the doubles - or like Face Off
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: Tina K. on April 07, 2010, 09:11:22 AM
Quote from: "simalves"
Didn't Michael retake most of his famous pics when he grew older and had his plastic surgery. So the bad video pic is like that - him in the original and him so many years later. I read it somewhere and had the pics side by side - but I can't seem to find it right now.

Also all pics of him at the memorial and in the booklets are really him - I always wondered why the pics they feature are only of the bad era - did the family doubt if it was the real Michael too?

Feels like we are in one of those FBI flicks with all the doubles - or like Face Off

hmmm... I never heard or read that he did a retake of the famous pics  :?
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 08, 2010, 11:54:47 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
After this topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297), again about doubles and decoys, I have a question.

Could you guys post 1 picture here of which you are 100% certain it's Mike, and IF you believe in doubles, could you post 1 picture of which you think is a double? I am very curious about that. I will post mine later.

Let's start with the BAD era.
Personally in my opinion all of the bad era was michael, theres something about his eyes that no double could ever manage, theres something in his eyes i can always tell michael by the eyes, his eyes have something special that no one could imitate or copy, thats how i tell michael apart from the doubles and stuff. E'Cas looked a shit load like michael in the bad era, but i knew it wasnt him because of the eyes, Michael's eyes just cant be copied or imitated.

When we're talking about doubles, we're not talking about E'Cas, Navi etcetera.  Those are impersonators, known by the public.  The real doubles are not 'known' by the public.  They have been around for a long time, but no one 'knows' them.  Do you understand what I mean?
yea i understand what you mean, but even so i think the bad era was all michael. maybe later he started using some but thriller to bad i believe was all him :)
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on April 08, 2010, 11:57:44 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
After this topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8297), again about doubles and decoys, I have a question.

Could you guys post 1 picture here of which you are 100% certain it's Mike, and IF you believe in doubles, could you post 1 picture of which you think is a double? I am very curious about that. I will post mine later.

Let's start with the BAD era.
Personally in my opinion all of the bad era was michael, theres something about his eyes that no double could ever manage, theres something in his eyes i can always tell michael by the eyes, his eyes have something special that no one could imitate or copy, thats how i tell michael apart from the doubles and stuff. E'Cas looked a shit load like michael in the bad era, but i knew it wasnt him because of the eyes, Michael's eyes just cant be copied or imitated.


Oh I have to admit I think it all looks like him in the BAD era, but these pics got me thinking...look at the ears:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/489.jpg)
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/057.jpg)

It's not that I want to prove there were doubles, i have already seen doubles for sure. I would like to know what happened and I just think the doubles play a big role in this, good or bad.
hmm i dont know i think thats him and those are his ears, maybe in the later years things changed? but i still stand by my opinion. i think it was all him :)
Title: Re: Show me Michael Jackson BAD era
Post by: RK on April 09, 2010, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: "liegi"
NEW YORK - Michael Jackson has been named as the most famous guest star on “The Simpsons”, and also the strangest, according to a new book.


Titled “The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History,” the book on the much-beloved Fox cartoon series was authored by former Vanity Fair staffer John Ortved.

In the book, the show’s writers and producers have revealed just how bizarre it was working with the former King of Pop, who appeared on the 1991-1992 season as a bald, 400-pound mental patient who believes he’s Michael Jackson while sharing a hospital room with Homer.

The crew did a rehearsal “at Jackson’s manager’s house, which was unheard of-we never left the studio-and it was a crazy environment where we were all served food by Sikhs in white robes and turbans,” recalled writer Wallace Wolodarsky.

“I remember having to make conversation with Michael Jackson. That had to be one of the freakiest moments of my life . . . he wasn’t quite the figure he’s become today, but still, I remember even then, staring at his nose, and it was all about, ‘Don’t Stare at His Nose,’” The New York Post quoted Hank Azaria, the voice of Moe and Chief Wiggum, as saying.

And when Jackson was about to come into the studio, editor Brian Roberts recalls: “I literally didn’t want to look at him. So I get my head buried in the script, and then at one point in the script he sang, ‘Man in the Mirror,’ and I said, ‘All right. How many times in your life are you sitting next to Michael Jackson and he’s singing “Man in the Mirror?” I just gotta look.’”

So I look over to Michael Jackson, and he wasn’t singing! He had a sing-along guy next to him who was actually singing for him. I couldn’t believe it. I was like, What kinda weird [expletive] is this?” he added.

Therefore it was this person--not an impersonator!

Wasn't the reason that MJ had someone  else  sing because of contractual reasons? He was under contract to sony at the time.  I have previously read that he could do the dialogue but not sing the part. Interesting how they can manipulate a story by omission and  portray MJ as strange when there is a logical explanation for his actions.
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