Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: nynyro on April 05, 2010, 05:30:33 PM
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I feel like I'm going to be dismissed, but did anyone find anything weird about the fan Ustream?
Maybe I'm paranoid or hearing things, but there were a few things that sounded strange? Am I the only one who heard something odd? :?
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Unfortunately, I missed today's event. What did you hear that sounded strange? Please share.
I feel like I'm going to be dismissed, but did anyone find anything weird about the fan Ustream?
Maybe I'm paranoid or hearing things, but there were a few things that sounded strange? Am I the only one who heard something odd? :?
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Unfortunately, I missed today's event. What did you hear that sounded strange? Please share.
I listened to most of the ustream. The two fans that were broadcasting an answering questions were named Mel (I think?), she was a woman and Tina, he was a man. I thought it was weird that a guy would be named Tina, but I was like whatever. Mel was from NY and Tina was from Canada. I was listening for about 15 minutes when I noticed something strange about Tina's (the guy) voice. He had started to laugh and he sounded almost exactly like Michael when he's doing his voice impersonations. He maintained a decent Canadian accent throughout, but every now and then he would slip up and sound a lot like Michael. What was also weird was when they were talking about meeting other fans and Mel said, "I hadn't seen them since your...Michael's death." It seemed like a slip-up. There were other little funny phrases that Tina used that sounded like things Michael would use. I don't know the whole thing was strange to me.
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I heard it too and said to myself hmm that sounds like Michael.
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WOW. No wonder you were trying to get their names. Hopefully someone else heard the broadcast and can tell if they caught that strange conversation too.
Unfortunately, I missed today's event. What did you hear that sounded strange? Please share.
I listened to most of the ustream. The two fans that were broadcasting an answering questions were named Mel (I think?), she was a woman and Tina, he was a man. I thought it was weird that a guy would be named Tina, but I was like whatever. Mel was from NY and Tina was from Canada. I was listening for about 15 minutes when I noticed something strange about Tina's (the guy) voice. He had started to laugh and he sounded almost exactly like Michael when he's doing his voice impersonations. He maintained a decent Canadian accent throughout, but every now and then he would slip up and sound a lot like Michael. What was also weird was when they were talking about meeting other fans and Mel said, "I hadn't seen them since your...Michael's death." It seemed like a slip-up. There were other little funny phrases that Tina used that sounded like things Michael would use. I don't know the whole thing was strange to me.
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The Ustream didn't work for me - so no.. But it sound interesting. What did you hear?
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I listened, too. Nothing out of the ordinary that I heard. They are just really frustrated with everything.
The guy's name is not Tina. LOL. Tina was another one of the fans in the room. IDK remember the guys name.
Melanie (Mel) runs the MJ fan club in NYC. The fan that was in the courthouse today, her name was Erin, and she has been one of the key organizers of trying to bring together all the MJ Fans. They also helped organize and pay for the banner and airplane today.
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Not everything is a clue, guys...
These fans would probably be quite upset someone even thought this about them.
Sigh.. :?
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I listened, too. Nothing out of the ordinary that I heard. They are just really frustrated with everything.
The guy's name is not Tina. LOL. Tina was another one of the fans in the room. IDK remember the guys name.
Melanie (Mel) runs the MJ fan club in NYC. The fan that was in the courthouse today, her name was Erin, and she has been one of the key organizers of trying to bring together all the MJ Fans. They also helped organize and pay for the banner and airplane today.
Then what was the guy's name? How come no one has the answer??
Mel kept calling him Tina.... repeatedly. That's why I kept listening and asking for their names/ The phone would keep disconnecting the guy and then Mel would say "Tina, are you still there? We lost Tina again." That's another thing I found strange, "Tina" kept getting disconnected. Wherever he was, the service was really bad....
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I listened, too. Nothing out of the ordinary that I heard. They are just really frustrated with everything.
The guy's name is not Tina. LOL. Tina was another one of the fans in the room. IDK remember the guys name.
Melanie (Mel) runs the MJ fan club in NYC. The fan that was in the courthouse today, her name was Erin, and she has been one of the key organizers of trying to bring together all the MJ Fans. They also helped organize and pay for the banner and airplane today.
Then what was the guy's name? How come no one has the answer??
Mel kept calling him Tina.... repeatedly. That's why I kept listening and asking for their names/ The phone would keep disconnecting the guy and then Mel would say "Tina, are you still there? We lost Tina again." That's another thing I found strange, "Tina" kept getting disconnected. Wherever he was, the service was really bad....
You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
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Not everything is a clue, guys...
These fans would probably be quite upset someone even thought this about them.
Sigh.. :?
I'm not one of those people who sees clues everywhere, so for me to take notice and start an entirely new topic on it,is pretty significant.
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Not everything is a clue, guys...
These fans would probably be quite upset someone even thought this about them.
Sigh.. :?
I'm not one of those people who sees clues everywhere, so for me to take notice and start an entirely new topic on it,is pretty significant.
Sorry, No personal offense intended. :oops:
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina".
Thanks. That's a first time I've heard it as a guy's name, but it could be my own ignorance. It is 2010; I guess anything goes these days. ;)
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina".
Thanks. That's a first time I've heard it as a guy's name, but it could be my own ignorance. It is 2010; I guess anything goes these days. ;)
No problem. According to Mel, Tina's a woman. I guess she just has a deep voice. *shrugs*.
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I feel like I'm going to be dismissed, but did anyone find anything weird about the fan Ustream?
Maybe I'm paranoid or hearing things, but there were a few things that sounded strange? Am I the only one who heard something odd? :?
Thank you very much NYNYRO for this. I wasn't/can't listen to the stream here in Asia but I'm very grateful for your thoughts & impressions. I sure wished that I was able to listen. ;) ;) ;)
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
Exactly and yes of course it's a woman. I have a deep voice too and it gets maddening being mistaken for a dude. Welcome to one reason I refuse to talk on the phone. :evil:
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
Exactly and yes of course it's a woman. I have a deep voice too and it gets maddening being mistaken for a dude. Welcome to one reason I refuse to talk on the phone. :evil:
I hope I didn't offend you. I've heard women with deep voices before, I just think it's interesting that she's a woman with a deep voice that just happens to sound like Michael Jackson doing a voice impersonation (Remember "Ghosts" and that prank call for that radio show). I'm still keeping this whole situation in the back of my mind for future reference.
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
Exactly and yes of course it's a woman. I have a deep voice too and it gets maddening being mistaken for a dude. Welcome to one reason I refuse to talk on the phone. :evil:
I hope I didn't offend you. I've heard women with deep voices before, I just think it's interesting that she's a woman with a deep voice that just happens to sound like Michael Jackson doing a voice impersonation (Remember "Ghosts" and that prank call for that radio show). I'm still keeping this whole situation in the back of my mind for future reference.
Lol no I'm not offended. I understand and of course it's good to look at everything.
I just sympathize with her because I know how it feels. :oops:
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My final opinion: There is a real Canadian female fan named Tina, however I don't beliEve she was the one speaking with Mel on Ustream. I think Michael impersonated Tina (with her permission) for a few hours and that it was his voice we heard yesterday (4/5/10) on the Ustream broadcast.
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My final opinion: There is a real Canadian female fan named Tina, however I don't beliEve she was the one speaking with Mel on Ustream. I think Michael impersonated Tina (with her permission) for a few hours and that it was his voice we heard yesterday (4/5/10) on the Ustream broadcast.
Hmm, I wonder what Mel would say to all that. I have to be honest, to me, it didn't sound like Michael's voice at all. :?
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where can we listen?
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I heard the Ustream for a good ca.30 mins, and i noticed Tina on the phone..didnt pay a close attention tho (sorry) i was too busy tweeting/trending MJ to be #1 on Twitter, epic fail.
But now you said it, i remember to be a little bit confused what (s)he was doing on the phone, was (s)he on a field report or something?
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Yes, Tina was assisting with the on-the-ground reporting from the courthouse. She is part of the Justice4mj fan coalition. Erin, from Justice4mj, was actually inside the courthouse. You can see some of the photos that they uploaded on their Twitter: http://twitter.com/justice_4mj (http://twitter.com/justice_4mj)
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where can we listen?
I don't think you can listen to it anywhere since it was a live broadcast.
I listened to it about 45 minutes, and I think they sounded like two fans. Or three, since there was this one fan, Erin, inside the courtroom.
I wonder how she got in (and stayed in) since she was screaming "Murderer!" inside the court. x)
Mel mentioned beLIEvers and she said it really clear how she thought we were disrespecting and crazy, and she sounded really angry to me, so ... I don't know.
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where can we listen?
I don't think you can listen to it anywhere since it was a live broadcast.
I listened to it about 45 minutes, and I think they sounded like two fans. Or three, since there was this one fan, Erin, inside the courtroom.
I wonder how she got in (and stayed in) since she was screaming "Murderer!" inside the court. x)
Mel mentioned beLIEvers and she said it really clear how she thought we were disrespecting and crazy, and she sounded really angry to me, so ... I don't know.
That's one of the reasons why I think part of the courtroom drama was pre-recorded and only part of it was live. How could Erin be screaming like that in a courtroom without being kicked out, while reporting the details of what was going on inside? The other reason I didn't think the whole thing was live was because towards the end of the TMZ feed, the tape appeared to be fast-forwarding. How is that possible with live footage?
Notice that no one is sure what happened in the courtroom. Only a few people were reporting second-hand information of what was said to have happened. Randy was apparently tweeting from the courtroom, but his twitter page revealed that he wasn't using a mobile phone. If he was there at the court that day, how would that be possible? Did he bring his laptop and start typing away while the court was in session? Once they switched rooms to the 9th floor, there were no cameras or audio recording allowed.... How do we know for example that Katherine was crying and that Janet rubbed her back? How do we know that some of the fans there weren't plants? So many people were reporting that Murray had left the courtroom an hour before TMZ and the Ustream broadcast said he had left. Who was right?
And don't you think it's strange that this preliminary hearing accomplished no obvious objective, except to set a new date for June 14th and make the fans aware that there is going to be a march in Washington on August 29th?
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Mel mentioned beLIEvers and she said it really clear how she thought we were disrespecting and crazy, and she sounded really angry to me, so ... I don't know.
Yeah that pissed me off. Did you see kellywright in the chat too, spoutin' off as usual? The funny thing is that in my opinion, most of us believers ARE very respectful. But obviously we don't deserve to get respect ourselves.
So my thoughts have changed to "I'll give you respect when I get it from you". Believers weren't happy with me in the chat because I wouldn't back down. Sorry, I'm not going to. They can use the line "but what would Michael say?" on me as much as they want. I don't think it's disrespectful or a bad thing to stand up for what I believe in.
I wasn't trying to convert anyone. All I wanted was respect. It was ignorant how she kept telling everyone to just ignore us and we'd go away.
And miss_dutchie in there telling us we couldn't POSSIBLY be fans. Oh my god the ignorance was staggering.
These are the people that put the ustream up - http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3 ... 849&ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=324254322849&ref=ts) or http://www.justice4mj.com/ (http://www.justice4mj.com/) if you prefer.
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They did threaten to kick Erin and the others out. They gave her a pretty strict warning. :!:
The photos from inside the courthouse are posted on the Justice4mj Facebook page, as well as their Twitter.
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I must say, whether you agree or disagree with them, they are getting things done.
I applaud their efforts to support Michael and his family at the Courthouse yesterday, as well as get that plane and banner in the sky! One of them also gave a bouquet of red roses to Mrs. Jackson.
They also were at the Courthouse getting people to sign the petition to get Michael's old school to uncover his name from the building. They are the ones who started that campaign.
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8006 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8006)
These fans and supporters, although not perfect, do rock! 8-) Mike really does have the most committed fans in the world!
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
Exactly and yes of course it's a woman. I have a deep voice too and it gets maddening being mistaken for a dude. Welcome to one reason I refuse to talk on the phone. :evil:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, I laughed hard at this!! I have the same problem!!
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So where's the link to listen to this? I would like to hear this.
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So where's the link to listen to this? I would like to hear this.
This was not recorded. It was a live stream from the courthouse.
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Darn!!
Ok, thanks. :)
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A friend of mine (Michael fan I "met" online) was at the court house yesterday.
She tweeted to me: "Oh, and I believe Michael is alive." And "Katherine was so cute, all smiles and gigglie, thanking the fans for coming." !!!!!!!
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
Exactly and yes of course it's a woman. I have a deep voice too and it gets maddening being mistaken for a dude. Welcome to one reason I refuse to talk on the phone. :evil:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, I laughed hard at this!! I have the same problem!!
Glad to not be the only one!!! It can get to be a bit of an annoying issue for sure!
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You could always ask her directly:
http://twitter.com/mellie321 (http://twitter.com/mellie321)
I asked her and she says the Canadian fan's name is "Tina", she also says that Tina's a woman.
Exactly and yes of course it's a woman. I have a deep voice too and it gets maddening being mistaken for a dude. Welcome to one reason I refuse to talk on the phone. :evil:
I hope I didn't offend you. I've heard women with deep voices before, I just think it's interesting that she's a woman with a deep voice that just happens to sound like Michael Jackson doing a voice impersonation (Remember "Ghosts" and that prank call for that radio show). I'm still keeping this whole situation in the back of my mind for future reference.
Thank you for this. There may be opportunity for the rest of us to hear it - we just need to watch and be patient. I appreciate your comments even if it doesn't pan out. All of the comments, clues, and non-clues on this forum started with someone being bold enough to ask a question. It was because of situations like you found your self in where you questioned what you heard that led me to believe it's possible that Michael is alive. Please don't be afraid to speak up. We can decide together if it's real or not. Blessings.
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Mel mentioned beLIEvers and she said it really clear how she thought we were disrespecting and crazy, and she sounded really angry to me, so ... I don't know.
Yeah that pissed me off. Did you see kellywright in the chat too, spoutin' off as usual? The funny thing is that in my opinion, most of us believers ARE very respectful. But obviously we don't deserve to get respect ourselves.
I agree with you. We don't go around making fun of people who are mourning Michael's death, unlike some of these people make fun of us because we believe he is alive. We miss him too, you know!
I think believing Michael being alive is just like sexual orientation, seriously. I didn't choose to believe he is alive, I can just feel it in my heart. And still people make fun of us and call us crazy and disrespecful and everything, and ...
Yea, back to the topic. : 3
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You can listen live right now to their de-briefing of yesterday's events at the courthouse. Erin was actually inside the courthouse. ;)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
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Six fans were allowed inside the actual courtroom.
The Jackson family (parents?) were seated behind the media in the second row.
Murray didn't make eye contact with the Jackson family within the courtroom.
Murray didn't have to make the walk in front of the media, but Michael had to. Murray was able to sneak in through the back door.
After court was dismissed, he passed the fans, and Murray did make direct eye contact with Erin.
Allegedly, the deputies seemed pretty rude to them (fans).
Murray's entourage were speeding through downtown LA trying to avoid the paps that was trailing the car.
Mr. Jackson asked for one of the Justice4mj shirts, and they gave him one.
Debbie Rowe called them while they were at the Courthouse, letting them know she wished she could be there with them.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
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Hope you're listening. This is very interesting.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
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Hope you're listening. This is very interesting.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
I'm listening and you're right. It is very interesting.
Erin was saying, "All of the people that came to the memorial... where were they yesterday."
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This is why we have to come together and stand up for Michael. THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS. We can no longer have a divide between the believers and non-believers. WE HAVE TO HELP.
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WE NEED TO HELP THE JACKSON FAMILY AND MICHAEL'S LEGACY. This trial is going to drag Michael's name through the mud...once again.
If you're not listening now to the livestream, please do now:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
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I also thought Erin looks like LMP! ;)
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Go Jerry Brown!
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Mel spoke with Al Sharpton's Office today.
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Hmmm, now that's an idea. We could help put up a Billboard. Perhaps set up a Pay Pal acct to make that happen. I wonder how much it would cost... :?: Cheaper than the banner and airplane, I think.
Still streaming live:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
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They are saying that the courthouse is much smaller and more uncomfortable and they have no idea why the judge moved it. They also said that the courthouse was the same one that the OJ trial was in.
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Mel and Tina are going to be in Ireland for Michael's birthday.
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She explained Justice4mj very well.
(http://twitter.com/justice_4mj (http://twitter.com/justice_4mj))
(http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3 ... 849&ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=324254322849&ref=ts))
It's about standing up for Michael and against the media distortion and lies.
It's about respect for his legacy and about justice.
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They really are making a difference with Jerry Brown. Today Jerry Brown said he is starting the process to strip Murray's medical license.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/06/ag ... ad-murray/ (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/06/ag-medical-board-to-take-action-against-conrad-murray/)
Still streaming live:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
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Jerry Brown facebook's page:
http://www.facebook.com/jerrybrown?v=ap ... own?v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/jerrybrown?v=app_7146470109#!/jerrybrown?v=wall)
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Everything I just heard just re-affirms what I have previously thought. These guys are awesome and are committed to standing up for Michael in any way they can. They ARE making a difference.
http://twitter.com/justice_4mj (http://twitter.com/justice_4mj)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wal ... 4254322849 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=ts&gid=324254322849)
I must say, whether you agree or disagree with them, they are getting things done.
I applaud their efforts to support Michael and his family at the Courthouse yesterday, as well as get that plane and banner in the sky! One of them also gave a bouquet of red roses to Mrs. Jackson.
They also were at the Courthouse getting people to sign the petition to get Michael's old school to uncover his name from the building. They are the ones who started that campaign.
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8006 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8006)
These fans and supporters, although not perfect, do rock! 8-) Mike really does have the most committed fans in the world!
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Here's Aphrodite Jones' perspective. She was there that day with the fans.
[youtube:1c2wbku7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZCqijKXOA&feature[/youtube:1c2wbku7]
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Hope you're listening. This is very interesting.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-an ... t-happened (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murray-and-the-fans---what-happened)
I'm listening and you're right. It is very interesting.
Erin was saying, "All of the people that came to the memorial... where were they yesterday."
exactly