Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: looking4truth on April 03, 2010, 11:49:35 PM
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Someone posted this video in another thread and I noticed something interesting at 1:26.
[youtube:2oiazfuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGcKzvetmQ[/youtube:2oiazfuo]
"...He says it will be his last. After this, he wants to concentrate on movies and records..."
It may not mean much but I couldn't help but remember the constant pictures of Michael during the BAD era at the memorial, the funeral and even the Grammys performance. Why would pictures from this era only, particularly, Liberian Girl be used so many times?
As Arsenio Hall would say, this falls under "things that make you go hmm..." :lol:
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cant help but mention here.......the remarks......"micheal doesnt leave anything to chance"......"its micheal that is is in complete control"...............if we apply this to the way he is running the hoax.......then we can be sure it will be important to him to do whatever he is doing now...........xxxx
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I just read that in a book I ordered. Michael Jackson A Visual Documentary by Adrian Grant. Page 118-
"1988 August Frank Dileo holds a press conference to announce that the 'Bad' tour will be Michael Jackson's last."
It was very surprising to read that!!
Dileo and Michael parted ways the next year. Then the Dangerous and History tour follow.
I need to keep reading, this is an incredible book!!! I highly recommend this book.
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Ok if bad tour is to be a last tour, the why still continue touring like Dangerous and HIStory tour? :?
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Could you imagine if it really HAD been his last tour. :shock:
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good pubicity stunt
or a wish
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
agree...
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Michael reportedly didn't even want to tour for Bad! He was fed up with touring after like the Destiny tour!! He always hated touring. I think he was talked into doing tours, 'cause it's important for artists to tour.
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
agree...
You mean the ones in gold pants???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, please... :roll:
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
agree...
You mean the ones in gold pants???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, please... :roll:
Never wonder why he did Bad live, then with Dangerous less songs were performed live, and during HIStory hardly any songs were performed live..? And no, it's not because singing live and dancing at the same time is too much, as he did that before. Madonna does it, Tina Turner does it, many artists perform highly active and sing live at the same time.
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
agree...
You mean the ones in gold pants???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, please... :roll:
Never wonder why he did Bad live, then with Dangerous less songs were performed live, and during HIStory hardly any songs were performed live..? And no, it's not because singing live and dancing at the same time is too much, as he did that before. Madonna does it, Tina Turner does it, many artists perform highly active and sing live at the same time.
It is quite hard when your lung capacity is permanently decreased as a result of lupus.
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
agree...
You mean the ones in gold pants???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh, please... :roll:
Never wonder why he did Bad live, then with Dangerous less songs were performed live, and during HIStory hardly any songs were performed live..? And no, it's not because singing live and dancing at the same time is too much, as he did that before. Madonna does it, Tina Turner does it, many artists perform highly active and sing live at the same time.
It is quite hard when your lung capacity is permanently decreased as a result of lupus.
That still does not explain why I see different Michael Jacksons when I watch various HIStory gigs.
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After the doubles in TII and O2, now Michael used doubles during HIStory?
I don't want to offend anyone, but it seems strange to me that his long time fans didn't notice it back then, and that people who are no fan and only investigate MJ since his death are convinced about the doubles...
So you are saying that Michael fooled his fans, and that they are blind.
I'm sorry for my disagree, but it's all Michael.
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If he really needed the money, like the media claimed he was broke and in debt, I don't think he would have a choice but to tour and get more money.
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If he really needed the money, like the media claimed he was broke and in debt, I don't think he would have a choice but to tour and get more money.
They weren't reporting him broke during Dangerous & History.
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After the doubles in TII and O2, now Michael used doubles during HIStory?
I don't want to offend anyone, but it seems strange to me that his long time fans didn't notice it back then, and that people who are no fan and only investigate MJ since his death are convinced about the doubles...
So you are saying that Michael fooled his fans, and that they are blind.
I'm sorry for my disagree, but it's all Michael.
Maybe you should look into reasons as to WHY he used doubles or even might HAD to use doubles.
Next to that: Don't twist my words, or put words in my mouth. I'm perfectly capable to type what I mean. If it doesn't say so, then that's not what I mean.
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I'm not putting words in your mouth or twisting your words, but what else are you saying then? IF it's true what you say, then he fooled his fans and they didn't see it. Or with other words they are blind. That's a fact.
What convinced you that he used doubles during HIStory? Have you got pictures or whatever to compare?
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Yes I do have pics, but I'm not going to post them as all I will see are "angle and lighting" excuses. I'm done with that. Those who don't want to see it will never see it, no matter how many pictures we post.
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I know he wasn't broke during those tours. He said they were his last, and then planned a new tour last year, then it would have been for money. Just my opinion. I think some things we read into too much and need to focus on the real clues that are out there. I hope that didn't sound rude, I didn't mean it to be. It's just some things are trivial and not worth debating. 8-)
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I just think that Michael was really fed up with tours. He said it no ? "I go through hell tours", it means a lot...He really wanted each tour the be the last but for some unknown reasons he made Dangerous and History. Maybe he had no choice at this time and that's why he is saying now STOP forever. No more tours at all. This is it, this is really it.
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Okay...I am open-minded enough to consider that BAD was his last tour and that he enlisted doubles to cover for him for subsequent tours. Is there a connection between the Dangerous and History tours and the fact that MJ stopped touring in the US around that time. He toured exclusively overseas after 1989. That is stuck in my head and I have yet to get a reasonable understanding as to why he did this at the time.
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Okay...I am open-minded enough to consider that BAD was his last tour and that he enlisted doubles to cover for him for subsequent tours. Is there a connection between the Dangerous and History tours and the fact that MJ stopped touring in the US around that time. He toured exclusively overseas after 1989. That is stuck in my head and I have yet to get a reasonable understanding as to why he did this at the time.
Well, isn't that around the time he started breaking free..? Could it have something to do with that?
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That's possible.
Okay this may be the dumb statement/question of the day. While Mj hired doubles, he was somewhere else and doing something else . The doubles were successfull. The doubles convinced people to believe that they were talking to MJ or watching MJ perform. Mission accomplished. Why bother with a hoax if he could use doubles successfully? Why not just keep the charade going since he could use a double and go off and do his own thing unnoticed?
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I think he started planning this hoax around the same time as he broke free. He might have used doubles to see if people would buy the illusion, but I think he was forced to use them as well during times he was too ill to appear and or perform. The doubles could have been used for protection, to give him the chance to work this whole hoax out and keeping him alive.
I can't help but think that it was his plan from the start to expose those who caused all the shit in his life, and in order to be able to do that the best thing was to hoax his death. I can't imagine him just sitting back and relax after all that happened to him and what's going around in the world, especially after going through all his lyrics and speeches, and watching the video clips he recorded after the late 80's.
Just my two cents, for what it's worth...
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He always said it would be the last one :lol: I mean, Michael hated to tour, he always said it. I think that I heard him say he did Dangerous tour, to have benefits for child protection organizations...I don't think he ever loved to tour, but I'm sure he loved to tour to please his millions of fans around the world, to offer them a little visit, and to make money to spend for organizations, it was the thrill of it, and all the pression around that he hated...Anyway, he can say he hates to tour, he always loved to be on stage ! I think he hated all that happened around it but couldn't prevent himself to get back to it, to feel this wonderfull waves of love coming to him while standing on stage. You know if Michael really died, "feeling the love of people while standing on stage" must have been the only drug he destroyed himself for.
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I think he started planning this hoax around the same time as he broke free. He might have used doubles to see if people would buy the illusion, but I think he was forced to use them as well during times he was too ill to appear and or perform. The doubles could have been used for protection, to give him the chance to work this whole hoax out and keeping him alive.
I can't help but think that it was his plan from the start to expose those who caused all the shit in his life, and in order to be able to do that the best thing was to hoax his death. I can't imagine him just sitting back and relax after all that happened to him and what's going around in the world, especially after going through all his lyrics and speeches, and watching the video clips he recorded after the late 80's.
Just my two cents, for what it's worth...
Totally agree with you. Michael is a warrior and wants his revenge.
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Good points and definitely something new to think about.
I cannot help but wonder...
Who else has done this sort of thing? I'm not just talking about Elvis, Tupac or other singers. What other historical figures have done this successfully? The unfolding lessons found in the hoax make me wonder who did this before MJ. For all we know, there might have been many others who "died" yet continued to live.
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I don't think someone has pulled off something as big as this ever before...at least not to my knowledge. Are we in for a surprise..?
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Yes Michael is an innovator and always wants the never-been-done-before.
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I don't know how much I buy into the doubles theory but, I've always been especially suspicious about this live performance of Blood on the Dance Floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw)
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Or those following tours were done in conjunction with doubles. I for sure see doubles during the HIStory tour.
NOOOOO!! J-just tell me this: Does the REAL him wear the gold pants even once, dammit?! Does he?!
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I don't know how much I buy into the doubles theory but, I've always been especially suspicious about this live performance of Blood on the Dance Floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw)
yeeah he looked strange there... Maybe his hair.. I mean I havent seen his hair like that! :?
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Never wonder why he did Bad live, then with Dangerous less songs were performed live, and during HIStory hardly any songs were performed live..? And no, it's not because singing live and dancing at the same time is too much, as he did that before. Madonna does it, Tina Turner does it, many artists perform highly active and sing live at the same time.
Michael did do it on his anniversary concerts so it's odd that he could do it then but not during those two tours. I guess you could argue though that the concerts weren't as many shows as the tours. I don't know. I just found that news tidbit to be interesting. You can even argue that wasn't him at the anniversary concert. At this point, who knows what's what anymore. :lol:
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I don't know how much I buy into the doubles theory but, I've always been especially suspicious about this live performance of Blood on the Dance Floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw)
yeeah he looked strange there... Maybe his hair.. I mean I havent seen his hair like that! :?
Yeah I don't think that's him. And I always thought MJ in that actual video for that song was questionable. I could be wrong. I can't help but wonder though.
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Record labels encourage tours to coincide with new releases. Some suggest that the real money-maker isn't the new release's sales but the concert touring. I wonder how MJ presented his desire to stop touring to the record label. Surely they had to be against the idea of a hot property such as MJ abandoning the concert stage. Does anyone know?
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This Blood on the dance floor is strange. I don't know if he did not like the song, or if he hadn't been sleeping for a week,or if there was a technical problem with performing but his moves are strange. I mean, it seems he lost his "mojo" backstage :lol:
The moves are not sticking to the music, it has nothing to express. we just have the feeling that he is bored, waiting for the song to be over. I'm not talking about his face, which is strange from time to time, but on stage, there could be make up problem, I don't know. But it is the strange show.
And if it was Michael, sorry man, this one was not really good !
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Wow! I've never heard that even though I know that he never liked touring!
I know it's slightly off topic but I absolutely love this video! He's sooo adorable when he's just Michael!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jck_nM_1 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jck_nM_1wPg&feature=related)
"I love to tour!" :lol:
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I don't know how much I buy into the doubles theory but, I've always been especially suspicious about this live performance of Blood on the Dance Floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw)
yeeah he looked strange there... Maybe his hair.. I mean I havent seen his hair like that! :?
Yeah I don't think that's him. And I always thought MJ in that actual video for that song was questionable. I could be wrong. I can't help but wonder though.
Same for me it's not Michael.
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If he really needed the money, like the media claimed he was broke and in debt, I don't think he would have a choice but to tour and get more money.
I read that MJ was raising money for the The Heal the World foundation. That's why he did the Dangerous Tour. He had to cancel the rest of the Dangerous tour because this was the time the Jordie Chandler child molestation came out. He went to rehab for a few months because he was getting addicted to the painkillers. The HIStory tour was the birth of Kingdom International. Pepsi had sponsored MJ's Bad and Dangerous tour, but not HIStory. Also, Pepsi was sponsoring TII tour.
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I don't know how much I buy into the doubles theory but, I've always been especially suspicious about this live performance of Blood on the Dance Floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw)
yeeah he looked strange there... Maybe his hair.. I mean I havent seen his hair like that! :?
wonder why he didn"t do something that at least resembled the video?
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I don't know how much I buy into the doubles theory but, I've always been especially suspicious about this live performance of Blood on the Dance Floor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MwbViOlNkw)
yeeah he looked strange there... Maybe his hair.. I mean I havent seen his hair like that! :?
Yeah I don't think that's him. And I always thought MJ in that actual video for that song was questionable. I could be wrong. I can't help but wonder though.
Same for me it's not Michael.
I'd looked at the video and it didn't seem to be MJ. He keeps hiding his face and turning his back to the audience. Now I looked at the video of Blood on the Dance Floor in Munich, that was him. Here's the one from Munich
[youtube:2d1z0lbw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx6T9-UT8F8[/youtube:2d1z0lbw]
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I can never keep up on the discussion of doubles, it drives me bonkers. But I do know that fooling his fans at a live show isn't something he would do, when fans paid to see him.. that doesn't seem right.. :?