Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: *Mo* on March 30, 2010, 01:07:57 AM
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Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA
Posted Mar 30th 2010 2:00AM by TMZ Staff
TMZ has learned doctors who worked on Michael Jackson at the UCLA Medical Center ran two EKGs on the singer, and at least one doctor who interpreted the results claims there was heart rhythmic activity both times.
Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.
Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.
It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.
We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0jdZdqbmX (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0jdZdqbmX)
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Very interesting how the story about june 25th is changing very quickly before the trial. He's lookin more alive all of a sudden!! :lol:
Thank you for posting. :D
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This is incredible is this me or sicne january I read a lot Michael and next word alive in medias ?
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I noticed that the photo of Michael in this article is sharp - the Photos TMZ normally uses are mostly distorted or blurry... hmmmmm
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this is what i'm getting from the article: he had a pulse the entire time.
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I think this is definitely a hoax. Never and I mean never have I ever seen a case like this before. There are far too many contradictions to ever be able to get to the truth, and that is exactly how you manage a great hoax. Keep the people confused as they will never be able to figure it out. I saw that on a thriller
where they said that exact thing, keep them confused so they will never be able to get to the truth/
Plus, Michael sure knows how to keep his name out there, does'nt he ?
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lol this is very entertaining to me lol first they say he been dead for hours and murrays court hearing is coming up next week and suddenly no he was alive! he had a pulse! i mean c'mon 9 months later and they just now decide to figure all this out and then tell us? lol c'mon
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good old TMZ
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“... and piece by piece by piece by piece [return process], MJ is revealed, until he jumps out [bam!], and on Michael’s command, we begin.”
:D :D :D
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This all just now came to surface because it was in the hospital medical records that Joe had to go to court for.
Remember he had to go to court for those records because the MJ Estate refused to let Joe see them as they said it was an invasion to Michael's privacy...they knew about this information all along.
Why did they want to prevent Joe from getting those records?
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“... and piece by piece by piece by piece [return process], MJ is revealed, until he jumps out [bam!], and on Michael’s command, we begin.”
:D :D :D
when/ if bam day comes i will tweet this
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.
terrifying nightmare.= The Death Hoax
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.= The things to follow
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Wow. Looks more & more like a hoax & that's he's been alive the WHOLE time, getting ready for the BAM. :shock: This would definitely explain why Joe wanted the medical records! I think they kept him from getting his hands on them, because they didn't want him to know that MJ is alive, he'd blurt it out or run to the tabloids & bust up the whole thing. This is exciting! If this is true, if CM was able to restart his heart & maintained it in the ambulance & MJ was alive at UCLA, then how could he have died? I don't know much about medical stuff/cardiac arrest, etc. But if they were able to get a pulse at the house & maintain heart activity in the ambulance & he arrived alive to the hospital & they had heart activity, they should have been able to maintain it & revive him right? They would be able to save him. Or he was never "dead" or had "cardiac arrest" in the first place. & the fact that TMZ has put this out there, shows there's a possibility he's alive. Or at least it's being talked about. Which, I believe he is :mrgreen: [Edit]
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TMZ is slowly trying to work towards Michael being alive :lol:
peace. :)
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It's good to see TMZ is slowly changing their story! :D
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well was it him at the hospital?
thought he was at the airport and if not jermaine said he was not with us before he arrived -somewhere?
who are these mystery doctors - are TMZ going through the dustbins of the lawyers, thats why they shred or do they have a leak from the lawyers camps
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We understand that TMZ are learning. (B.R.A.V.O. ;) )
We understand that Joe obviously has got the card of playing the revealer.
We understand that a criminal case turns into a war.
We understand that focus should be directed on war of medical expertise - alas nobody will be able to follow their disputes - except if they go into a fencing lane puling out and targeting with their syringes.
:lol:
Which makes it very likely that the trial gets on TV - either live or re-enacted studio version.
And: from which important facts are we being distracted this time while our focus is being led to a non-understandable medical expertise war?
What is really important here?
Nightingale in the shrubs...
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It seems like TMZ was spezialy create for this hoax...noone else is posting the stories and imagine, they know that Michael was dead before anyone else knew it.
They are posting in eastern time, not in LA time, they most posting at night and not much articles.
If you google TMZ you find the homepage and all the time a link to the death posting of Michael.
They are not only a celebriti gossip, they are the information board about the hoax.
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Time changed from
30th 2010 2:00AM
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Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM
9 = 3 x 3 -> 333
03/30/2010 makes 333 also...
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I noticed that the photo of Michael in this article is sharp - the Photos TMZ normally uses are mostly distorted or blurry... hmmmmm
Thank you for posting this. I have been wondering recently too about the blurred photos of Michael TMZ has been using. I am wondering if it is a clue. I noticed in the past month they have been using clear photos of Michael. The obscure photos could represent the doubt that he is gone. But now with the clearer photos maybe they are trying to show that not long from now he will be clearly seen. Just something that has crossed my mind.
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OMG .... ITS getting closer ! 8-)
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CAN YOU FEEL IT???
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Wow the title itself speak volumes...I was :o :shock: to only see the word alive ! Michael is coming back from the dead... 8-)
There will surely be a battle to know who is right or wrong who says the truth or not and it will be difficult for a jury to follow the experts gibberish (or double Dutch ;) )..confusion, confusion...
We have many versions in this article:
- Unknown doctor at UCLA = there was a heart activity (2 EKGs done to be sure, don't know how there can be a mistake)
- Dr. Murray = heart was beating at home and even in the ambulance (Michael was alive)
- Paramedics = Michael was dead when they arrived
- Brian Oxman = Michael was dead before paramedics arrived but there was a pulse detection at UCLA only because of resuscitation efforts...( :shock: so Brian dead or alive ?)
The show must go on.
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TMZ has changed the time again.. :shock:
Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA
Posted Mar 30th 2010 2:00AM by TMZ Staff
and now:
Posted Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM by TMZ Staff :shock:
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Time changed from
30th 2010 2:00AM
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Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM
9 = 3 x 3 -> 333
03/30/2010 makes 333 also...
OMG Mo that is MESSED UP!!! I was walking my dog this morning and I realised today's date!!! lmao!!
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What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.
terrifying nightmare.= The Death Hoax
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.= The things to follow[/quote]
Heck yes! my siggy. :) Michael - we feel you more than ever!!!!
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Time changed from
30th 2010 2:00AM
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Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM
9 = 3 x 3 -> 333
03/30/2010 makes 333 also...
From 2:00 AM to 9:00 AM....... 7 hours :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Wow I've forgotten the numbers in this story. Great finds.
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this is what i'm getting from the article: he had a pulse the entire time.
Hi sweetie, That's not what the article says, but lets wait for trial. The paramedics found him gone. It's certainly possible that they got a week pulse now and then. Maintaining that is a different story.
And I want to tell you all..............Be careful of the medical professionals you listen to on t.v. about this. I've seen two of them lie or be deliberately misleading, if you prefer.
The purpose was not to help Michael in a hoax, I assure you.
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this is what i'm getting from the article: he had a pulse the entire time.
Hi sweetie, That's not what the article says, but lets wait for trial. The paramedics found him gone. It's certainly possible that they got a week pulse now and then. Maintaining that is a different story.
And I want to tell you all..............Be careful of the medical professionals you listen to on t.v. about this. I've seen two of them lie or be deliberately misleading, if you prefer.
The purpose was not to help Michael in a hoax, I assure you.
then murder cover up :?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I just recieved this from a friend of mine shes also a member on this forum
i just forgot her username.. sorry hun!
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8292/tmz.jpg
so clearly this is an advertisement... for some sort of website, I checked out this website
and see what it says at the bottom of it :
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2093/heartattack.png
What are the odds.. lol :lol: :mrgreen: :ugeek:
Odd :lol: :lol: :lol:
I tried again and now there is a video...
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Time changed from
30th 2010 2:00AM
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Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM
9 = 3 x 3 -> 333
03/30/2010 makes 333 also...
Yeah today is 30.03.2010 in other words it's 3.3.2+1=3 ==> 3.3.3 and TMZ gave us the clue once more! Definitely these guys are working for Michael and I'M LOVING TMZ! THANK YOU GUYS! :D
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I just recieved this from a friend of mine shes also a member on this forum
i just forgot her username.. sorry hun!
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8292/tmz.jpg
so clearly this is an advertisement... for some sort of website, I checked out this website
and see what it says at the bottom of it :
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2093/heartattack.png
What are the odds.. lol :lol: :mrgreen: :ugeek:
OMG that is so amazing! :lol: There IS SO MUCH MORE!
There's a video on that page, can you guys see that? On that video there was a HOAX video which shows the fake coroner picture and at the end there was the helicopter shoot!!! TMZ IS WORKING FOR MICHAEL and THEY'RE GIVING US CLUES! After I gave the link on Twitter, TMZ deleted the vid I think because I can not view it at the moment! BUT I watched the video with another believer!!! Ohh GOD!!! Here is the page link: http://www.zonkspace.com/
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:lol: :lol: :lol: every day that passes it gets better ... and the photo of Michael that finger pointing, ... "I'm alive ",...... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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guys be careful im afraid tmz is f**in with us they r watching and whatever we want to see they seem to be doing... :twisted: but please lord michael come back :D
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This also makes me think back to the reports of Michael's 'body' having livor mortis? How could that have been possible if he was still alive?? :roll: :roll:
I knew that things would kick off big time in the week leading up to the court appearance. I bet there's plenty more to come yet! :D
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Came across this on twitter this afternoon, credit MJsoulmate
In the box circled it says "Mike Jackson is not dead" :!:
Im so sorry I dont know how to make it appear in a box so you can view it on screen :oops: :oops: If someone could do that for me I would be so grateful :D 8-)
There is a link to a website where it is circled it dose exist but nothing there at the moment. (http://www.zonkspace.com (http://www.zonkspace.com))
If you click on the Zonkspace.com link it takes you to a page at the bottom it advertises a new album called Heart Attack, the person pictured on the page is wearing a tea shirt which reads .... Believe Receive? (http://www.bnrrecords2.com/ (http://www.bnrrecords2.com/))
All very odd can anyone figure this out ? my head hurts :oops: :?
;)
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8292/tmz.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8292/tmz.jpg)
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Did you Know that there is a place in UCLA Medical Center Known for bringing the dead back to life???? :D
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-07-01-ucla-hospital_N.htm :shock:
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this is what i'm getting from the article: he had a pulse the entire time.
Yes.. and this makes far more sense than the story that MJ was dead for 3 hours until he got to UCLA, where they managed to restart his heart for ten minutes... i mean, i do not believe that scenario that Brian Oxman and Joe Jackson are trying to tell us!!!!
This scenario would make more sense in that Dr Murray keeps saying he is innocent and that he insisted on taking him to the hospital.. the fact that they worked on him for a couple of hours at the hospital before declaring him dead.. they wouldnt work on him for that long if he was constant flat-line.
Also Randy Phillips said in his interview that MJ was on life support at the hospital.. again, this makes more sense if put along this scenario we are getting from TMZ today.
PFFF... the story is changing daily.
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Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.
This report reminds me of the paramedics, they were already at the house at 11:51 ,..., the 911 call took place at 12:21 ..., "uuuyy hermano", these paramedics are seers, they know things before they happen, .. :lol: :lol:
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wow :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) .. murray will say out someday that mj is alive... n that day is nearing....... the comeback is nearing.............. :)
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Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.
This report reminds me of the paramedics, they were already at the house at 11:51 ,..., the 911 call took place at 12:21 ..., "uuuyy hermano", these paramedics are seers, they know things before they happen, .. :lol: :lol:
But where has that information about the paramedics come from? Ive seen no official statement from the paramedics saying this... just tabloid rumour.
And the clocks can be explained by daylight saving hours.. they just forgot to reset the clocks an hour.
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guys be careful im afraid tmz is f**in with us they r watching and whatever we want to see they seem to be doing... :twisted: but please lord michael come back :D
Why would TMZ f*** with a bunch of hoax believers? NO, they're helping us. Try to focus on the dates and what kind of news they give on what dates :D Today is 3.3.3 and they're giving us a good news about the case :D They have no reason to have fun with us guys. They're not playing with us. I mean why would they spend their time with hoaxers (if they were not in on the hoax)? :D
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can we just step back for a second and look at the title? i definitely think there are details within the article, but maybe it's a case of "it's right in front of your eyes."
simply, "Michael was alive at UCLA." the end.
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I believe this story over the others cause if you remember the pic when they go with the stretcher in the hospital, you can see Murray walking next to it and he's clearly looking at the person on the stretcher. So why would he be looking at a dead person? :roll:
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Did you Know that there is a place in UCLA Medical Center Known for bringing the dead back to life???? :D
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-07-01-ucla-hospital_N.htm :shock:
Weird :lol: :lol:
When Michael Jackson went into cardiac arrest, rescuers took him to a place known for bringing the dead back to life. A world-renowned surgeon at the UCLA Medical Center has pioneered a way to revive people that most doctors would have long written off, including a woman whose heart had stopped for 2 1/2 hours.
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Could Jackson, too, have been saved?
It's impossible to know. Doctors at the hospital worked on him for an hour. The UCLA expert, cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Gerald Buckberg, said he was not personally involved in Jackson's treatment, and that too little is known about what preceded it.
Nobody knows who are the doctors who treated Michael not even those who work there...
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can we just step back for a second and look at the title? i definitely think there are details within the article, but maybe it's a case of "it's right in front of your eyes."
simply, "Michael was alive at UCLA." the end.
Yeah of course!!!! Oh my, great!!!!
Yes, Michael was alive at UCLA.....and escaped later, when the fire alarm was pulled.
So this speaks again for the Coroner-Van video, right ? ;)
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This is getting BETTER everyday!!!! OMG! I can feel the BAM coming!!! :D
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:D As someone said before..MJ is slowly regaining his pulse and its getting stronger..
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:D As someone said before..MJ is slowly regaining his pulse and its getting stronger..
thats fantastic
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Copied and pasted the coma theory from here: http://mjtruth.wordpress.com/2010/02/03 ... kes-sense/ (http://mjtruth.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/the-last-theory-that-makes-sense/)
One thing I’d said early on was that MJ might be in a coma. I’m putting the following forth as my final official theory in the “If MJ is alive” thing. Though at this point I think he’s likely dead, if he’s alive this is the only theory that maintains any level of “sense” to me that makes everything make some degree of sense and ties up all lose ends without requiring too big of a conspiracy for stupid reasons.
So here is the scenario as I see it…
Dr. Murray administers drugs to MJ and he’s unresponsive. Paramedics are called, he’s rushed to the hospital. Somehow he’s stabilized but is in a coma. The family makes a fast executive decision. The coma could last a very long time. He may wake up, he may not.
Remember all the news outlets were originally reporting MJ in a coma, and this was before it turned into a big circus. Reporting random shit that doesn’t make sense is unlikely to happen that early in the forming of a story. They all said he was in a coma, then the story was changed completely. It wasn’t “He was in a coma for a little while but then he died.” They took the coma part out of the story altogether. And that was their mistake. Now not saying News media knew, they probably don’t. One of their sources just said there was a mix-up, they accepted it at face value. After all… MJ dead is MUCH bigger news than MJ in a coma for god knows how long.
MJ being the most famous man on the planet, the few who know he’s in a coma, know that it could become a big problem for everyone involved and the family reasons that Michael needs some peace. Imagine all the fans crowded around the medical center for days, weeks, months on end, making it harder for people at UCLA to get their jobs done and for those who come to the medical center to get good treatment in a timely manner.
The medical center agrees to allow the family to put forth this death story and take MJ out as if he’s dead. Murray knows as well but he can’t talk, because the truth is… he’s guilty as sin. Whether MJ dies or not, he’s sunk. If he says MJ is alive and in a coma… well who put him there? Dr. Murray. His best option is to keep his damn mouth shut. He refuses to sign the death certificate because he’s already in enough trouble.
In fact no one wants to sign the death certificate. Someone finally comes up with the idea for someone to sign a fake death certificate and they do. They also tinker with a few of the details to further the fakery and hopefully keep their asses out of a legal vice if/when Michael wakes up. The medical center also refuses to make the announcement that MJ has died. Jermaine, forever loving the spotlight, takes the stage to make the announcement. Jermaine’s convoluted story in direct contradiction to the earlier new-media coma story, is swallowed whole by the media and everyone else. After all, WHY would Jermaine lie about something like that?
MJ is moved to a safe location. The kids are told of the situation and the kids are “doing well” because they maintain hope that their dad is going to be okay. Janet acts a little weird about the whole thing because she doesn’t really know what to do about it. Would Michael want this? He’d talked before about wanting to escape everything, if he wakes up this gives him a new chance at life and privacy since the world thinks he’s dead. Will he be pissed? How much can she involve herself in any of it and remain loyal to Michael? Katharine is in a similar pickle.
There has been much talk about MJ being covered by a white sheet and not in the proper coroner’s bag. If he’s not actually dead, they can’t exactly get use of that. Though they later are able to get the coroner to at least partially be involved in it. They can just “seal” the coroner’s report and not let any actual official reports come from him.
What about the paparazzi videos and photographs? That’s just opportunism. They all try to get video and photos but it’s not happening. During the videoing portion, one of the guys is standing back. He knows the other guy isn’t going to actually get a shot in those lighting conditions, not a clear shot. But he’s been following MJ since the 90’s and has some old photos from when MJ collapsed in NY that he can use and touch up. They go into photoshop, make a little magic and sell the photo to the highest bidder. MJ would want him to go to medical school after all. Of course he doesn’t know MJ is alive, has no clue, he just knows that his shot at getting the only death photo of MJ didn’t happen, but no one else has it either. What they do have is proof that the shot was taken. Sort of. No one knows what came out on the film, so he opportunistically creates something to sell. Medical school here he comes.
Joe of course is the big ass he always is. But it makes more sense with his son not actually dead. If MJ had hoaxed his death there is no way he’d tell Joe about it. But if MJ is in a coma, then Joe, like the rest of the family knows about it. Believing MJ will pull through is the glue that makes everyone in this family behave in bizarre ways that are incongruent with a loved family member dying.
Janet and LaToya rush to the mansion to move stuff. Why? They have to contaminate the scene and slow down the investigation. If Murray ends up going to prison for some variation on murder and MJ turns out to be alive, then everybody is in a LOT of trouble. Alternately, police officers could be aware of the situation and that may be why the “case” has moved at a snail’s pace. They know they’ve got him for something, but until MJ decides whether he’s in or out of this world, no actual charges can officially be moved on. Though occasionally they leak something to the press for those going: “Hey, why is Murray still practicing medicine? Why hasn’t he been arrested?”
Perhaps MJ had some type of legal set up so power of attorney was moved to someone else if he were ever incapacitated like in a coma. He’s a very powerful man, he has to know if something like that happens where he’s straddling the fence between life and death, that someone has to make decisions. Enter all these people MJ trusted: Frank Dileo, John Branca, etc.
We’ve wondered why has the family acted so fucking weird. It’s like they’re covering something up. But given MJ’s strained relationships with some of them, all of them would not have been notified of a hoax or faked death. They also would not purposefully cover up MJ being murdered. A coma is the only situation that makes sense.
The court stuff gets dragged out and is a huge mess because while someone else has legal power to act in MJ’s behalf, this is getting messier and messier and some of this they didn’t think fully through because they had to make a snap decision back at the hospital. There was no massive plan. The family DID get together with MJ a few months prior, but it wasn’t to hoax his death. Who knows what it was about but this probably wasn’t exactly what MJ had in mind when he said whatever he said.
Now everybody is running to catch up. Katharine is awarded temporary custody because if MJ wakes up… well obviously he gets custody of his own kids back. None of this shit is HIS fault. I mean fuck, dude’s in a coma, what can he do about it all?
Kenny Ortega and a few others either are told or figure out what is going on. KO swears to keep it quiet because hell if MJ comes back, the MJ back from the dead tour will be awesome. He’s very optimistic about MJ’s possible recovery as are the TII dancers and everyone begins working on something that MJ will be proud of. Many of them can barely contain their giddyness on Twitter.
Funeral arrangements are put off forever because it’s just “too much” to go that far with it. The family has decided the memorial is okay. MJ may not wake up and this may be his fans’ only chance to really mourn so they are doing something good for the world. KO knew from that far back and his slip up about “we were here just last week” is in reference to him and the TII dancers already beginning rehearsals on something Michael would be proud of. When things look uncertain, throw yourself into your work. Which is exactly what they do.
Some of the slip-ups seem almost intentional because if MJ is alive and decides to come back, then there has to be at least some expectation in some people that that is the case. Arnie Klein doesn’t know a goddamn thing, but he makes a slip anyway because he thinks something fishy is going on and maybe it’s a hoax, so what the hell? May as well throw his own weird shit out there about MJ being the greatest actor. Let people chew on that one for awhile. And while he’s at it he can say he’s the baby daddy. Hell, let’s everybody say we’re the daddy of MJ’s kids. Normal opportunism ensues mixing up the stories of those in the know, and those not in the know who are taking advantage of situations that personally benefit them.
The whole thing gets completely out of control and everybody is playing their own tune now doing their own bizarre things because MJ isn’t really dead so they can somehow justify “capitalizing” off his death and all the other weird things they do. Some people are just throwing weirdness out there for their ten seconds of fame. Some people interviewed are telling the actual story of what THEY know (because they aren’t in the loop) and making the situation even more confusing, especially for those paying attention like hoax followers.
So burial time happens, they’ve put it off and put it off, if MJ wakes up he will be so beyond freaked out about it, but people are starting to ask questions and they have to do something. So they do the burial. Originally they plan to do it on MJ’s birthday but that gets quickly veto’d as it’s just too damn morbid and MJ will have a fit if/when he wakes up. The man who never wants to die, you do not orchestrate a fake burial on his birthday. That’s just insane.
Of course Mac and Liz were notified very early on about what was going on, so they’ve remained fairly silent on all of this. They’re pretty pissed about what’s going on because Michael wouldn’t like it. A few of MJ’s other close friends also know and are keeping a very big distance from all this because if MJ wakes up the shit will fly all over everywhere. (Seriously if you’ve ever seen one of the very rare videos of MJ in pissed-off mode, dude hide. Eeek. This man is not to be trifled with. He’s like Chuck Norris lol.)
KO expresses his dismay that MJ STILL isn’t with us. Oprah, rather confused and thinking KO may be a few bricks short and has had some sort of psychotic break, corrects him saying he’s NOT with us. KO after all expected MJ to make a full recovery already. In fact, maybe he wonders if MJ is awake but he hasn’t been notified.
Randy Phillips has said something about how what happened that day at the hospital isn’t something MJ either thought or planned. If what they say went down actually went down, that makes no sense. Of COURSE MJ didn’t plan that shit. But, if MJ was in a coma, but some believe MJ is alive and therefore faked his death, then perhaps this is Randy’s way of saying: “Look guys, all this crap and fallout, it’s not Michael’s fault.”
Many of the family members use all the fall out surrounding Michael’s “death” to boost their own careers. Jermaine goes to work planning tribute concerts, telling everybody that “if MJ was really dead, this is what we’d be doing.” However the tribute is continually postponed because deep down Jermaine knows if/when MJ wakes up if Jermaine has been fucking with his fans, a Jackson might actually die in all this but it won’t be Michael. They agree to continue the Jackson reality show, because hey, publicity, and while MJ may be a bit tired of it, some others aren’t.
Now I “think” I’ve covered every angle.If I haven’t let me know what I’m not factoring in and I’ll add it in. At this point if this scenario is more or less true, there are three possibilities:
1. MJ is still in a coma.
2. MJ died. (If Murray actually goes to trial we can assume this has probably happened.)
3. MJ is awake and pissed as hell but also unsure if he can come back out now given all the legal trouble many of his family members will be in, as well as how so much of this will fall on his head as the media chooses to twist it all and act like he faked his death for attention or some other similar bullshit.
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DancingTheDream is what is written in the report of the paramedics, well if they say it is sensational, so anything that is being presented is false.
There's a video of this, I will get it. 8-)
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DancingTheDream is what is written in the report of the paramedics, well if they say it is sensational, so anything that is being presented is false.
There's a video of this, I will get it. 8-)
Yes it is all getting really confusing as this contradicts the report of the paramedics that Joe Jackson has filed in his civil case.
Its of two opposites: MJ was dead for a long time at the house... or MJ was alive at the hospital and had a pulse throughout... it all makes my head hurt.
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NO COMA NO MURDER! Sorry but how do you guys think that "someone" arranged the dates like 77 days after death and 7 days after the funeral we go to 9.9.9? 3.9.9 was the funeral and 7.7.9 was the memorial. Look at the dates! You believe that all these dates are just coincidences? Sorry but there're NO coincidences in this case! You'd better read TS' posts, especially 4b to understand the date code! NOONE ELSE BUT MICHAEL could think of those things. And who forced Michael to add Gilda and all the other resurrection scenes to TII then? C'mon guys. This's a hoax, Michael is alive and he is COMING BACK piece by piece! :D
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DancingTheDream, this is the video link, besides Michael's name is misspelled. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCeKE8J ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCeKE8Jtrg&feature=player_embedded)
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Time changed from
30th 2010 2:00AM
to
Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM
9 = 3 x 3 -> 333
03/30/2010 makes 333 also...
Yes, I recognized this too this morning... They have changed many times their time also to 777....This proves again that TMZ looks at us...
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Sorry Mo, didn't see this post. About Murray's revelations, seems they are trying to get the feel of how people would react if Michael were miraculously still alive. We're being fed bit by bit little blurbs of Michael not being as dead as initially reported. First he came back for 10 minutes. Now Murray states MJ did have some life signs while he was "resuscitating" him AND in the ambulance. Next we'll probably hear, well actually he was revived one last time but it was hours after it was announced he was dead. However, his family did not want people to over react in case he didn't make it. :? What's next?
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DancingTheDream, this is the video link, besides Michael's name is misspelled. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCeKE8J ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCeKE8Jtrg&feature=player_embedded)
Thanks. :D
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If Murray goes to trial and is charged with involuntary manslaughter the time he has to serve is a joke. I still believe that Murray has been paid his 1.5 mill to spend a year or two in the joint just to seal the case. In my eyes, it doesn't mean jack. Michael could still be alive. Murray owes the correctional institutions some time anyway. Maybe this way he kills 2 birds with one stone and comes out a free and wealthy man.
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PureLove well said, it's always good to remember some things. ;) :lol:
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When doing CPR, when you "push" on the sternum, the CPR "artificially" creates the heart beat and gets the blood circulating through the body. Getting the heart to beat on its own and sustaining it is the most difficult and critical part. If they can get it to beat on it's own, they would make a big difference. If not, getting a faint artificial heartbeat due to the CPR is not uncommon.
I'd be curious at what point they performed the EKG's. :? :!:
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When doing CPR, when you "push" on the sternum, the CPR "artificially" creates the heart beat and gets the blood circulating through the body. Getting the heart to beat on its own and sustaining it is the most difficult and critical part. If they can get it to beat on it's own, they would make a big difference. If not, getting a faint artificial heartbeat due to the CPR is not uncommon.
I'd be curious at what point they performed the EKG's. :? :!:
You are right, however, a standard 12 lead ECG would not be done during resuscitation efforts. More likely, the patient would be connected to a monitor that displays the heart rhythm.
I want to know what kind of rhythm they saw and was it a standard 12 lead or just a simple view of the monitor??????
In my opinion, this story could be symbolic. It appears that the pulse is picking up, demonstrating more life to this story. Perhaps it won't be long until a strong, regular heartbeat is noted and then.................BAM! Michael will awaken/reappear! After all he has spent that time "bathing in the light." I hear it is a rather beautiful, blessed white light. We'll have to ask him about that.
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NO COMA NO MURDER! Sorry but how do you guys think that "someone" arranged the dates like 77 days after death and 7 days after the funeral we go to 9.9.9? 3.9.9 was the funeral and 7.7.9 was the memorial. Look at the dates! You believe that all these dates are just coincidences? Sorry but there're NO coincidences in this case! You'd better read TS' posts, especially 4b to understand the date code! NOONE ELSE BUT MICHAEL could think of those things. And who forced Michael to add Gilda to TII then? C'mon guys. This's a hoax, Michael is alive and he is COMING BACK piece by piece! :D
Oh YES, the world has MOST CERTAINLY been waiting for:
"The one (more) dream that he wanted to share with everyone", "A Great Adventure", "The event of a lifetime", To "Discover the man we never knew", "Michael Jackson: like we have never seen before", "A spectacular opening with pyrotechnics, and some sizzles and some cracks and some pops"!!!
The crescendo has been building up long now...
We've definitely been hit by, we've been struck by, a smooth (but not a) criminal ;) :) :P 8-) :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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NO COMA NO MURDER! Sorry but how do you guys think that "someone" arranged the dates like 77 days after death and 7 days after the funeral we go to 9.9.9? 3.9.9 was the funeral and 7.7.9 was the memorial. Look at the dates! You believe that all these dates are just coincidences? Sorry but there're NO coincidences in this case! You'd better read TS' posts, especially 4b to understand the date code! NOONE ELSE BUT MICHAEL could think of those things. And who forced Michael to add Gilda to TII then? C'mon guys. This's a hoax, Michael is alive and he is COMING BACK piece by piece! :D
Oh YES, the world has MOST CERTAINLY been waiting for:
"The one (more) dream that he wanted to share with everyone", "A Great Adventure", "The event of a lifetime", To "Discover the man we never knew", "Michael Jackson: like we have never seen before", "A spectacular opening with pyrotechnics, and some sizzles and some cracks and some pops"!!!
The crescendo has been building up long now...
We've definitely been hit by, we've been struck by, a smooth (but not a) criminal ;) :) :P 8-) :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
you know, now that you put it in larger font and quotes....i couldn't describe this hoax any better than those quotes. it truly sums this whole thing up. thanks for putting it in perspective for me :D
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NO COMA NO MURDER! Sorry but how do you guys think that "someone" arranged the dates like 77 days after death and 7 days after the funeral we go to 9.9.9? 3.9.9 was the funeral and 7.7.9 was the memorial. Look at the dates! You believe that all these dates are just coincidences? Sorry but there're NO coincidences in this case! You'd better read TS' posts, especially 4b to understand the date code! NOONE ELSE BUT MICHAEL could think of those things. And who forced Michael to add Gilda to TII then? C'mon guys. This's a hoax, Michael is alive and he is COMING BACK piece by piece! :D
Oh YES, the world has MOST CERTAINLY been waiting for:
"The one (more) dream that he wanted to share with everyone", "A Great Adventure", "The event of a lifetime", To "Discover the man we never knew", "Michael Jackson: like we have never seen before", "A spectacular opening with pyrotechnics, and some sizzles and some cracks and some pops"!!!
The crescendo has been building up long now...
We've definitely been hit by, we've been struck by, a smooth (but not a) criminal ;) :) :P 8-) :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
@ Zsis and Pure Love, I just love your quotes:
I just wanted to add my one touch to your brillant quotes: Piece by piece; MJ is revealed until he jumps out. And on Michael's command, we begin." [attachment=0:ry6yoqe5]thisisit_jacket_silver.jpg[/attachment:ry6yoqe5]
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TMZ gives us cookies again :D
Love you TMZ!
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Michael please don't torture us anymore, we know you are alive :D
Love you so much. Please come back , it's about the time :D
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NO COMA NO MURDER! Sorry but how do you guys think that "someone" arranged the dates like 77 days after death and 7 days after the funeral we go to 9.9.9? 3.9.9 was the funeral and 7.7.9 was the memorial. Look at the dates! You believe that all these dates are just coincidences? Sorry but there're NO coincidences in this case! You'd better read TS' posts, especially 4b to understand the date code! NOONE ELSE BUT MICHAEL could think of those things. And who forced Michael to add Gilda to TII then? C'mon guys. This's a hoax, Michael is alive and he is COMING BACK piece by piece! :D
W00T!! PureLove! Your post is the new TIAI redirect for today!!!
I totally agree with what you have said. I think that all of these 'coincidences' are what keep me from loosing faith.
This has changed my life in such a big way and I can't even begin to put it into words. All I know is that I truly love Michael for the beautiful child of love that he is. I have NEVER been touched like this.
And that's because I was not a fan prior to June 25th, 2009.
*hides in a corner*
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I think that all of these 'coincidences' are what keep me from loosing faith.
This has changed my life in such a big way and I can't even begin to put it into words. All I know is that I truly love Michael for the beautiful child of love that he is. I have NEVER been touched like this.
And that's because I was not a fan prior to June 25th, 2009.
*hides in a corner*
WhiteNight, come out from that corner; you have NOTHING to be ashamed of! LOVE is BIG enough to accommodate ALL, remember? :) It is the NOW that counts NOT the "has beens"!! We are all more or less in the same boat here at the moment. I really appreciate & LOVE your perceptive & refreshing honesty here, So thank you very much for this post :) 8-) :)
Cheers to us "MJ-ists" & to keeping the Faith alive too... :D :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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@ darkchild
Tks, I really appreciate your quote & the accompanying 'apt' photo too ;)
MJ, JUMP out ALREADY; We are SO READY to "begin" & to be "startin' somethin' new" ANYTIME you are too... :P :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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Jermaine Jackson "This is it, but then it's not it this is definitley NOT the final curtain call. NO. 8-)
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Jermaine Jackson "This is it, but then it's not it this is definitley NOT the final curtain call. NO. 8-)
TKS :D :D :D (Me thinks I'm high from pure, unadulterated sheer excitement now :P )
" THERE'S MUCH, MUCH MORE TO 'THIS' "
:lol: :D :lol:
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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Zsis y Pure Love,... very good and comforting quotes ..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:D As someone said before..MJ is slowly regaining his pulse and its getting stronger..
We all know a long time MICHAEL JACKSON IS ALIVE...clues,evidences, videos, photos, daily TMZ&other press notices, what is more necessary TO BELIEVE - MICHAEL JACKSON IS NOT DEAD ???
I AM A BELIEVER since July,2009 so we need only to wait, hope, BELIEVE and ask WHY? We are talking about MICHAEL JACKSON don't forget...don't underestimate a GENIUS.
WHEN his comeback is possible, we are sure that it will occur. I think the real BELIEVERS never will pressure MICHAEL to return without him make sure their SAFETY and the RIGHT time he should be planned.
Remember MICHAEL words:
"...will you still care? Will you be there?
...in the promise of another tomorrow...!
Let's be calm and FAITH! MICHAEL LOVES US and knows what is doing...
It's all for L.O.V.E. & the best is yet to come...I hope soonest!
Happy EASTER - it's time to RESSURECTION& FAITH! GOD is blessing us today & ever!
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We are talking about MICHAEL JACKSON don't forget...don't underestimate a GENIUS.]
That´s really hard to forget here ;) :lol:
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"And on Michael's command, we begin!" Begin what? He comes back via possibly a world-wide televised event. Newspapers blare out something maybe negative like someone once, "Jacko's backo" or something crazy. But then what, begin -- maybe the 50 concerts he had planned to do. Elsewhere someone posted maybe it would be a huge one-time concert televised world-wide with possibly 3-4 billion viewing. I'm thinking about the super-bowl where he jumps out on stage and just stands there while there's fireworks and everyone just screaming. My imagination can't take me any further than a literal stage. Maybe he'll do something in the air like from a blimp or large plane or go up to the space station or could he project a huge holographic image into the air so millions could see it (bigger than the huge statue he made). I'm sure this all is related to the Dome project and some crazy crazy technology. Remember elsewhere it said he was investing in all these cutting edge technology companies under alias names. And then once he has the world's attention and people actually take him seriously and not as just the internet's most popularly ridiculed joke, he can start commanding strategies for reforming earth management, ecologically, racially, politically, economically. Perhaps somehow through art, movies, television, media and internet. Michael always thinks biggest and never done before. Remember the grandiose plans of Heal the World Foundation, the plans for the family entertainment company he was setting up and making speeches about. I know it's all been discussed before as to why he's done this whole hoax and no one can deny he's doing it for more than just directing a movie, but for the planet. Most writing theories are directed to the proofs of him being alive, and I would love to read some even wild projections for future stuff based on knowledge of MJ we already have and other clues. Am I taking all this too far? I think we've been thinking too small, from the little I get of Michael's life and passion. So Michael is revealed bit by bit, jumps out with some sizzles, and on his command we begin????
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I've just seen that TS made my post a redirect. Thank you for that TS. :) Michael is reviving step by step! CAN YOU FEEL IT?!? Soon and very Soon, we are going to see the KING! BAM!!! :D
And on Michael's command, we begin TO WAKE UP ALL SLEEPING BEAUTIES IN THIS WORLD, DEFEAT EVIL and START TO LIVE IN A PEACEFULLY BEAUTIFUL WORLD! :)
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No, I've gotta cue that. I've gotta cue that. Michael had some quotes for the record.
Let it bathe in the moonlight. He is something else. I can't wait. Michael when you come back please teach me numerology, :lol: I am completely lost.
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PureLove ;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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girl will you git cho ass offa me, damn :lol:
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I've just seen that TS made my post a redirect. Thank you for that TS. :) Michael is reviving step by step! CAN YOU FEEL IT?!? Soon and very Soon, we are going to see the KING! BAM!!! :D
And on Michael's command, we begin TO WAKE UP ALL SLEEPING BEAUTIES IN THIS WORLD, DEFEAT EVIL and START TO LIVE IN A PEACEFULLY BEAUTIFUL WORLD! :)
No, I've gotta cue that. I've gotta cue that. Michael had some quotes for the record.
Let it bathe in the moonlight. He is something else. I can't wait. Michael when you come back please teach me numerology, :lol: I am completely lost.
CAN YOU FEEL IT...CAN YOU FEEL "IT"...CAN YOU FEEL "IT"!?!
;) 8-) :P :) :lol: :mrgreen: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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@ darkchild
Tks, I really appreciate your quote & the accompanying 'apt' photo too ;)
MJ, JUMP out ALREADY; We are SO READY to "begin" & to be "startin' somethin' new" ANYTIME you are too... :P :lol: :D
L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
@ZIsis, you are very welcome, hun! :) I am more than ready for MJ to "begin". I pray to God that day comes very soon. MJ, baby, I love you more than words can say. We need you back! ;) Our love for you has never wavered no matter what lies the haters of this world told. MJ, we love you the most, baby! ;)
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girl will you git cho ass offa me, damn :lol:
Your piccy of MJ and Naomi, oh my! :oops: No one can do it like MJ can. I think I am going to fanit! :oops:
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:lol: darkchild!!! Funny!!!