Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 28, 2010, 10:03:10 AM
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Okay so was watching TII again and listening to his speech he is giving the dancers, voclists etc towards the end and something really stuck out. He said "We have 4 years to get it right"
He was speaking about the planet and taking care of one another however do you think it had some other meaning to it. I mean 4 years...why 4 years...What is going to happen in 4 years? Any one want to talk about the meaning of this....
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I think he meant 2012.
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He definitely meant 2012.
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Yes I also think he was talking about 2012. I don't know if you're now familiar with the Illuminati stuff but they have a plan to establish a new world order and they have something with the number 11.
In 2012 it will be exactly 11 years after 9/11 and some people expect them to do some other terror attack in 2012. It is also believed that around the years 2012-2020 there will be a kind of pole shift that will induce big changes on earth (eartquakes, floods...) and that these Illuminati are preparing themselves for this event to come. They don't want us to know for specific reasons.
They want this new world (after pole shift) for them and eliminate 50% of world's population to be able to control everyone more than they already can.
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Okay but that would really be 2013...???
4 years as of 2009....
WHAT did Michael plan to accomplish do you think by 2012??? What WILL he accomplish more like it....???
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I think he meant 2012.
I am not an accountant but if he said that in June 2009+4 yrs -2013 not 2012.. so that means the movie this is it ( that part was recorded in 2008) !! Unless I am wrong.
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You´re wrong if you count 2009 and 2012...
2009
2010
2011
2012
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I like so many other of you have been totally perplexed by this and have not stop wondering what he actually meant. I am really not associating his words with a comeback of any sort, but I do believe there was a reason for that. 4 years what could he have possibly meant , we know it somehow ties in with the government, we all know how Mike felt about the government, but 4 years? He meant something by that and I do believe us finding out what he meant will definitley shed a lot more light on things. :?
4 years to get what right? The environment? The world? I simply never really understood a lot of the illuminati stuff (not saying it does not exist) but I am still studying it to get a better understanding of it.
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I can already hear some people call me a fool ..
Ok! that's what it said .. take care
4 years for save the planet Click Here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/jan/18/jim-hansen-obama)
If you read the Apocalypse of St. John you would understand what Michael was talking about.
But as your generation is atheist you do not see!
Michael was primarily a Jehovah's Witness,
he knew the Bible and of course the end of the reign of Satan!
Michel is not a prophet, he did recite that text ... let's see
"Men worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast [see Emperor], and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?" And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months; it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming His Name and His dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and tongue and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, every one whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain." (Revelation 13:4-8 RSV)
Barack Hussein Obama took the Chair January 20, 2009,
tand if you know his history, you already know it was born from a questionable relationship!
One can say he has been educated to become President of the United States.
Born of a mother who worked as a prostitute, and an influential black man
(there are explicit nude photos of Ann Dunham ,we can not show it here, but this is true).
Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist - Hussein Hebrew language of God is ...
(http://i43.tinypic.com/54t8no.jpg)
Need more evidence ? ...listen and watch these videos!
Blasphemous words
[youtube:2og2alle]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqALdkTArqs&feature=related[/youtube:2og2alle]
[youtube:2og2alle]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TMKUea87E&feature=related[/youtube:2og2alle]
I apologize if this offends you,
but that's what Michael wanted to say otherwise is illogical!
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imo obama cant be the antichrist because the majority of the world hates him. he has more haters than followers. maybe you need to find someone else to claim as your anti christ.
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Obama antechrist ?
Ok, perhaps, but he's the only US president who did the health care law in your country.
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imo obama cant be the antichrist because the majority of the world hates him. he has more haters than followers. maybe you need to find someone else to claim as your anti christ.
I do not need to seek it, because it is Obama!
Who said that your whole world hates him?
Or you read it? in Canada it is flatter, Israel is Adulated!
He is idolized by the heads of major nations,
this is not enough for you?
and if nations are behind him, then people are also
because ordinary people have no power, they follow!
There are Muslims that hates OBAMA because they know who he is.
If the great of this world decide what actions we are powerless!
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As michangelo said this has to be something regarding the prophecies. I am religious and I believe in God, deeply.
What the Illuminati have tried to do and managed to do is to divide us from being one community and to separate us from God. They don't want us to follow God's law and we must admit that they did a good job because nowadays unfortunately less and less people do really believe in God. Even people who claim to have faith worship the wrong thing or worship God the wrong manner. They have been deceived. All religions have been corrupted in different manners.
Illuminati worship Satan, you really have to know that. Don't think it's ridiculous please, this is what they want. Ridicule people who believe in God, Paradise and Hell, Angels and the Doomsday.
Now I know that many of you will say how do you know that what you're saying is the truth ? I'll just say that even if I always believed in God it happenend that sometimes I questionned myself, especially on life after death. I don't blindly believe. But faith is found in everything around us. Just ask yourself the right questions, look, observe, compare and you'll surely find the right answers.
Death is not the end, it's the beginning of eternity.
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:D :lol: The video makes me laught a lot !
"Yes we can " backwards " Thank you satan" WTF ?!! :lol:
C'mon, don't believe this kind of bullshit. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Obama antechrist ?
Ok, perhaps, but he's the only US president who did the health care law in your country.
"His proposal was based on two main steps: creating a public system, funded by the state, which, though residual, given an option to those unable to afford private coverage, and regulate the sector so that quota increases would not be decided unilaterally by the insurers. The bill was filed in Congress for a year and has just been approved. But it contains none of the initial proposals of Obama. For the simple reason that the insurance lobby spent $ 300 million to pay the legislators responsible for drafting the law (for their campaigns for public initiatives and, ultimately, for their pockets). There are six area health lobbyists registered for every member of Congress. Lobby is the legal form of what in the world is called corruption. The project was so disfigured that many progressive sectors (ie sectors with a little less conservative) think it would be better not to enact the law. Among other things, the law "surrender" to insurers about 30 million new customers without any control over the amount of contributions. The reason that the Democratic Party wanted to enact the law is no reason for public health policy. It is a political reason tout court: to create public opinion the idea that the enactment of the law is a victory for President Obama and that would help their re-election in 2012. The U.S. are sick because American democracy is ill."
Source here (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rebelion.org%2Fnoticia.php%3Fid%3D102999%26titular%3Dest%C3%A1n-enfermos-&sl=es&tl=en) The whole article is very interesting and gives more details on what is really happening with the new USA health system.
And here (http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rebelion.org%2Fseccion.php%3Fid%3D15&sl=es&tl=en) more articles on why Obama´s system is not good.
One thing is public health systems being good.
Another Obama´s system being good.
They have not got a system like in the rest of the world we have.
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Obama antechrist ?
Ok, perhaps, but he's the only US president who did the health care law in your country.
Yes true and here is why!
The RFID project (http://www.rfidjournal.com/)
...... he will do great wonders if you do not know REVELATIONS will read Apocalypse of John,
Everything is written from the beginning,including the 2 Beasts and miracles
The Two Beast (http://www.bartleby.com/108/66/13.html)
...well anyway I will not ask you to take my word, you have to go read! ;)
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if obama cant even get his own nation america to follow him what makes you think that other nations follow him. is it that the news tell you these things? well guess what the media lies.
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if obama cant even get his own nation america to follow him what makes you think that other nations follow him. is it that the news tell you these things? well guess what the media lies.
Excuse me, but I never listen to what the media say, am doing my own thoughts with what I have intelligence and know that the wise peoples and the Bible teach me.
The media? everybody know that was controlled by governments and internet!
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As michangelo said this has to be something regarding the prophecies. I am religious and I believe in God, deeply.
What the Illuminati have tried to do and managed to do is to divide us from being one community and to separate us from God. They don't want us to follow God's law and we must admit that they did a good job because nowadays unfortunately less and less people do really believe in God. Even people who claim to have faith worship the wrong thing or worship God the wrong manner. They have been deceived. All religions have been corrupted in different manners.
Illuminati worship Satan, you really have to know that. Don't think it's ridiculous please, this is what they want. Ridicule people who believe in God, Paradise and Hell, Angels and the Doomsday.
Now I know that many of you will say how do you know that what you're saying is the truth ? I'll just say that even if I always believed in God it happenend that sometimes I questionned myself, especially on life after death. I don't blindly believe. But faith is found in everything around us. Just ask yourself the right questions, look, observe, compare and you'll surely find the right answers.
Death is not the end, it's the beginning of eternity.
Amen to that!
What a great post.
I've been telling people this same thing for a while but nobody seems to believe it. Most people seem to be blinded for the truth and that's such a shame. It really is sad to see how people being manipulated by the devil himself.
All the satan wants is simply to fool everyone into hell. Do to so he needs his army in this world: the illuminati. They all sold their souls to satan in exchange for power, wealth and fame.
To quote Michael in 'Money':
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
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THE NIBURU 35FT TALL ALIEN GIANTS ARE COMING!
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Nibiru may be one of the Blue Beam Project lies.
Take into account, that the Blue Beam Project is in part devoted to make negative prophecies seem to be fulfilled.
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Nibiru may be one of the Blue Beam Project lies.
Take into account, that the Blue Beam Project is in part devoted to make negative prophecies seem to be fulfilled.
Yeah! BLUEBEAM is also much involved in film and special effects and soon the 3-D glasses ($ 200.00) for home theater or you'll need to load the chip at the center of the frame!
You know what that means? RFID in your forehead?
Who do not wish to have the mark of the beast to see films in 3D?
All people do not know who is the beast and he has many!
I too would like to see the 3D but the price is too high! (my soul is not for sale):geek:
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As michangelo said this has to be something regarding the prophecies. I am religious and I believe in God, deeply.
What the Illuminati have tried to do and managed to do is to divide us from being one community and to separate us from God. They don't want us to follow God's law and we must admit that they did a good job because nowadays unfortunately less and less people do really believe in God. Even people who claim to have faith worship the wrong thing or worship God the wrong manner. They have been deceived. All religions have been corrupted in different manners.
Illuminati worship Satan, you really have to know that. Don't think it's ridiculous please, this is what they want. Ridicule people who believe in God, Paradise and Hell, Angels and the Doomsday.
Now I know that many of you will say how do you know that what you're saying is the truth ? I'll just say that even if I always believed in God it happenend that sometimes I questionned myself, especially on life after death. I don't blindly believe. But faith is found in everything around us. Just ask yourself the right questions, look, observe, compare and you'll surely find the right answers.
Death is not the end, it's the beginning of eternity.
Amen to that!
What a great post.
I've been telling people this same thing for a while but nobody seems to believe it. Most people seem to be blinded for the truth and that's such a shame. It really is sad to see how people being manipulated by the devil himself.
All the satan wants is simply to fool everyone into hell. Do to so he needs his army in this world: the illuminati. They all sold their souls to satan in exchange for power, wealth and fame.
To quote Michael in 'Money':
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
Thank you Dancing_Machine. Indeed most people hardly believe in God, Paradise and Hell and that this world will come to an end sooner or later. They usually make a mockery of it.
They also don't believe that Illuminati really do exist and that they really have a plan. Consiprationists have been turned into derision. But anyway we have to keep talking about it maybe things will change and evolve in the right way.
God bless you.
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somekindofsign and Sarahli I am glad that I am not alone believe in prophecy,
glory to God and his divine plan! 8-)
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While I do believe that Obama is a Progressive and wants to take our country right into socialism, I know he is not the Antichrist. The bible says,
Daniel 11:37
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
So there you have it. He is married with two beautiful little girls. "Nor desire of women."
I do not agree with his policies and I do not want socialized anything in America. With that being said I believe he thinks what he is doing is right but it isn't right for this nation. I do not agree with him on anything really. I remember many called Ronald Reagan the Antichrist and Bill Clinton, oh yes and of coarse there was John Kennedy! He was wounded on the head and was suppose to comeback and take us all to Hell! GIVE ME A BREAK here!!
Do your homework and study. Know what you are taking about before you lead your brothers and sisters down the wrong path. Shouldn't we as Christian's be seeking Jesus and not the devil? We have to stay aware and awake but keep our focus on him. J.C. that is. Now, about what Michael said, I do think he was speaking of a 4 yr term of president. I believe, that he was warning us about where we are headed.
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somekindofsign and Sarahli I am glad that I am not alone believe in prophecy,
glory to God and his divine plan! 8-)
Yes. We all are submitted to God. The difference is to be aware of it, to accept it or to refuse it.
Now regarding the subject of this thread I just would add that Michael also said something like "point of no return". Seems like it is our last chance...
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While I do believe that Obama is a Progressive and wants to take our country right into socialism, I know he is not the Antichrist. The bible says,
Daniel 11:37
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
So there you have it. He is married with two beautiful little girls. "Nor desire of women."
I do not agree with his policies and I do not want socialized anything in America. With that being said I believe he thinks what he is doing is right but it isn't right for this nation. I do not agree with him on anything really. I remember many called Ronald Reagan the Antichrist and Bill Clinton, oh yes and of coarse there was John Kennedy! He was wounded on the head and was suppose to comeback and take us all to Hell! GIVE ME A BREAK here!!
Do your homework and study. Know what you are taking about before you lead your brothers and sisters down the wrong path. Shouldn't we as Christian's be seeking Jesus and not the devil? We have to stay aware and awake but keep our focus on him. J.C. that is. Now, about what Michael said, I do think he was speaking of a 4 yr term of president. I believe, that he was warning us about where we are headed.
i agree well said
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The Bible is written with metaphors through out. Many have suggested that the Anti-Christ may not be just a single individual. As the word Anti means: one that is opposed, opposing or hostile to; against, it is possible that there could be more than one individual when applying this term.
Antichrist
1 The final opponent of good. There are many other names for him as well, such as the 'Son of Perdition. He is the evil counterpart of Christ, who will come as a kind of prelude to the parousia and the succeeding judgement of the dead. The Antichrist, equipped with the power of Satan, will try to seduce the elect and will torture and destroy those that will not succumb to his power. He will elevate himself and set himself as God in the temple of God and deceive through false miracles. He is the personification of everything that is contrary to the divine doctrine. Finally, he will be destroyed by Christ.
But the figure of the Antichrist is not always seen as a single individual. The Antichrist-figures of the dragon, the beast from the sea and the beast from the land in the Book of Revelation form a kind of Anti-trinity. Martin Luther used the image of the Antichrist not against an individual pope, but attacked the papacy itself as Antichrist.
2 A person who denies that Jesus is the Christ.
3 People who live contrary to the doctrines of Jesus Christ have also often been called Antichrist.
Throughout history, many people have been called Antichrist. Next to Antiochus, Nero and Domitian, who are mentioned by Adso, and the papacy (i.e. by Martin Luther) there can be found many modern names as well, such as Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, Martin Luther, Pope John Paul II, John F. Kennedy, Mikhail Gorbachev, David Rockefeller or Bill Gates. The supercomputer at European Union headquarters in Brussels (the nickname of which is ironically the beast) is also included in this list.
http://www.apocalyptic-theories.com/glossary/a.html
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Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand. 8-)
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I think we´re mixing lots of things here to a point that I just don´t know if we agree or not. I´m lost.
We have the Obama thread to discusse about his health system.
But...
Socialism = Social = People.
bubaliciousjlb, what do you think socialism is, please?
Or any of you who see it that bad.
I don´t trust the president of the world, but it´s just amazing the mess about the meaning of socialism some of you have in the USA. And the opposite happens to some in Europe about Obama, he has introduced a public health system, so he is making god... It would be so if the system was not following corporation interests. I´m afraid USA health system is going to be arguments to follow what will help in the destruction of our public health systems.
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TA BIBLIA = The Books
Which of the thousand versions?
Who knows what the Bible originally said?
We know the Bible they manipulated for centuries.
My Bible is my common sense and my heart.
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Sarahli, sorry, MJ said we have 4 years, so it´s our only chance?
NOBODY knows what´s going to happen. If light will prevail over darkness. Everything is to see.
What I do believe is that we have decisive years of changes ahead. And the result is yet to see.
But we´re not alone, we have superior help (call it whatever).
I understand that MJ wanted to share messages with people, but it doesn´t mean he is the center of the awakenning phenomeno. To me he is important, but there are lots of people awoken out there years before this happened. Even Michael voice is not necessarily gospel. He wants us to awake, not to change the subject of our somnambulism.
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I think that the years to follow are decisive.
But we have to take into account that maybe someone is trying to make us believe that prophecies are being fulfilled, and it may be a lie.
I insist. PROJECT BLUE BEAM.
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I think that the years to follow are decisive.
But we have to take into account that maybe someone is trying to make us believe that prophecies are being fulfilled, and it may be a lie.
I insist. PROJECT BLUE BEAM.
:lol: YES! Project BLUEBEAM is a sign of the times as HAARP
It is the control of men over nature!
I know something very important, a subject never broached here!
I would say just 2 words ...
MASTER MAITREYA
... when you hear about him is the beginning of the end! oh I just talk,shit too late!
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I've just found something weird!
Stargate..? :shock: :shock: :shock:
The Capitol is Stargate: Freedom's Gate
[youtube:2n0yyk63]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtywhqX1QXM[/youtube:2n0yyk63]
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Sorry I have not seen it yet, (I will now) but I can tell you now that there is said to actually exist a Stargate Project, I can´t remember now what is all about, I can search. And the Stargate TV Saga is full of clues and winks to many projects.
Do you remember an episode when they realize that someone is airing a TV series based on what they do?
What do they say? Ok, let it be, if there´s a TV series about it, who is going to believe that it really exists?
*EDIT* I have already seen it and it ´s very interesting.
But it happens with all the big cathedrals in Europe.
They are plenty of astrology.
They even create a map of the stars altogether.
If you could see the dark Earth from the sky in XVI century, the lights of the cathedrals would paint a starmap.
The same happens with the piramids. Keops, Kephren and Mikerinos are aligned exactly like the stars of the orion belt when those piramids were made.
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Okay but that would really be 2013...???
4 years as of 2009....
WHAT did Michael plan to accomplish do you think by 2012??? What WILL he accomplish more like it....???
that means that tii had to be made in 2008 ;)
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Okay but that would really be 2013...???
4 years as of 2009....
WHAT did Michael plan to accomplish do you think by 2012??? What WILL he accomplish more like it....???
that means that tii had to be made in 2008 ;)
Or as I said up there, that you have to count 2009 and 2012...
2009
2010
2011
2012
From 2009 to 2012 we have 4 years.
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somekindofsign and Sarahli I am glad that I am not alone believe in prophecy,
glory to God and his divine plan! 8-)
Ofcourse you're not alone, we are all waking up now hopefully. I'm awakened myself for a long time now.
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somekindofsign and Sarahli I am glad that I am not alone believe in prophecy,
glory to God and his divine plan! 8-)
Ofcourse you're not alone, we are all waking up now hopefully. I''m awakened myself for a long time now.
I know you're one of ours! :D
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As michangelo said this has to be something regarding the prophecies. I am religious and I believe in God, deeply.
What the Illuminati have tried to do and managed to do is to divide us from being one community and to separate us from God. They don't want us to follow God's law and we must admit that they did a good job because nowadays unfortunately less and less people do really believe in God. Even people who claim to have faith worship the wrong thing or worship God the wrong manner. They have been deceived. All religions have been corrupted in different manners.
Illuminati worship Satan, you really have to know that. Don't think it's ridiculous please, this is what they want. Ridicule people who believe in God, Paradise and Hell, Angels and the Doomsday.
Now I know that many of you will say how do you know that what you're saying is the truth ? I'll just say that even if I always believed in God it happenend that sometimes I questionned myself, especially on life after death. I don't blindly believe. But faith is found in everything around us. Just ask yourself the right questions, look, observe, compare and you'll surely find the right answers.
Death is not the end, it's the beginning of eternity.
Amen to that!
What a great post.
I've been telling people this same thing for a while but nobody seems to believe it. Most people seem to be blinded for the truth and that's such a shame. It really is sad to see how people being manipulated by the devil himself.
All the satan wants is simply to fool everyone into hell. Do to so he needs his army in this world: the illuminati. They all sold their souls to satan in exchange for power, wealth and fame.
To quote Michael in 'Money':
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
Thank you Dancing_Machine. Indeed most people hardly believe in God, Paradise and Hell and that this world will come to an end sooner or later. They usually make a mockery of it.
They also don't believe that Illuminati really do exist and that they really have a plan. Consiprationists have been turned into derision. But anyway we have to keep talking about it maybe things will change and evolve in the right way.
God bless you.
Unfortunately the illuminati's plan seem to work, too many people don't believe in God (anymore). Satan made people desire the earthly things and made people forget about their Creator and to give Him the acknowledgement for His creation.
But like God said in the Holy Qoran: "And Allah is the Best of the planners." ;)
@Michaelangelo, you're not the only one :D . God warned us for these times of great deception so I'm glad we can use the knowledge to awaken others for this devilish deception.
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Glory to the Lord, I see that many here acknowledge his Divinity!
Michael ... you are the angel did say how to love his neighbor!
You deserve your place on his right .. be blessed Michael!
Whether you are still among us or not, your message of love is clear,
because you belong to God and he has chosen to honor him! 8-)
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Please, don´t be so negative about people not believing, I think it´s quite the opposite,
people believes more is some kind of God but doesn´t believe in churches.
Of course, attraction-reaction, there´s loads of people who give their lives to banal things out of the spirit and so, even without knowing, they are in hands of the darkness.
All of you interested in 2012, please read my post at 2012 is coming NOW! (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=4033#p128664).
It´s really long, I´m sorry, but it explains a lot of things that we are discussing here.
LOVE AND LIGHT as a way of thinking.
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Sarahli, sorry, MJ said we have 4 years, so it´s our only chance?
NOBODY knows what´s going to happen. If light will prevail over darkness. Everything is to see.
What I do believe is that we have decisive years of changes ahead. And the result is yet to see.
But we´re not alone, we have superior help (call it whatever).
I understand that MJ wanted to share messages with people, but it doesn´t mean he is the center of the awakenning phenomeno. To me he is important, but there are lots of people awoken out there years before this happened. Even Michael voice is not necessarily gospel. He wants us to awake, not to change the subject of our somnambulism.
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I think that the years to follow are decisive.
But we have to take into account that maybe someone is trying to make us believe that prophecies are being fulfilled, and it may be a lie.
I insist. PROJECT BLUE BEAM.
Yes, if people wake up things will change in time, we have to keep hope and spread the word. But we don't have eternity that's my point. Some day if nothing happens it will be too late.
Regarding the end of times nobody knows when it's gonna happened and as you say Illuminati with their technology will try to deceive people. This is why faith is important.
2012 is expected regarding Illuminati plans. It is their agenda I'm talking about that's maybe why Michael said we have 4 years. They have deadlines and it seems that the year 2012 is a big one. Not 100% sure tho. I'm just collecting information around and try to see what's happening in the world and it's bad, really bad.
Yes of course Michael is not the only one, hopefully for him and for us. A lot of people are waking up but it's good when "important" persons wake up and try to do things. The impact is different.
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I agree with you, adding that it´s an important date itself, not to the illuminati.
To them also, like to us, because it´s important and decisive itself ;)
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There is a lot of interesting thoughts here. I cannot comment on the religious aspect to all this because I have never had any belief in it due to the alterations and manipulation of it. I know that from personal experience that you do not need to believe in God to become awakened. The basis of every religion is love. Everyone feels this and this really is all you need.
My awakening happened overnight and completely out of the blue and because I had never looked into religion or prophecy etc I didn't have a clue as to what had happened to me. The energy of love is often called God and this is what flooded through me, physically. My mind and body suddenly became one with the Universe as a whole.
Words don't really explain this transformation, this experience is intensely real and can only really be understood once you have been there, because once this has happened it is impossible to go back. Many people's minds may not believe in God, but our essence will never forget as this is what we are, as I was so dramatically reminded of. God=Love=Life. So it doesn't matter what your preferred word for it is, it is all the same. Love cannot die as energy does not die. We are made of love, which is energy. ;)
I know there some members here who will know exactly what I am talking about and it is such a huge relief to find that I am no longer alone. If you are interested in reading my thread where I have opened up about my awakening, then here it is.
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416)
I Know Michael is referring to 2012 because so many people are now having these experiences and once you do, you know there is nothing to fear. This is about a new beginning. Love and light is truth, not what others tell us is true. Love to all xx
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somekindofsign and Sarahli I am glad that I am not alone believe in prophecy,
glory to God and his divine plan! 8-)
Ofcourse you're not alone, we are all waking up now hopefully. I''m awakened myself for a long time now.
I know you're one of ours! :D
I'm glad you know! :mrgreen:
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I've just found something weird!
Stargate..? :shock: :shock: :shock:
The Capitol is Stargate: Freedom's Gate
[youtube:1m5dv8ap]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtywhqX1QXM[/youtube:1m5dv8ap]
Yes some architectures are known to have good energy attraction like domes and pyramids. Now depending on what kind of things are done under these buildings/constructions, depends what kind of energy is brought.
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And the Stargate sorry has nothing to do, sorry, it´s a USA government remote viewing project.
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There is a lot of interesting thoughts here. I cannot comment on the religious aspect to all this because I have never had any belief in it due to the alterations and manipulation of it. I know that from personal experience that you do not need to believe in God to become awakened. The basis of every religion is love. Everyone feels this and this really is all you need.
My awakening happened overnight and completely out of the blue and because I had never looked into religion or prophecy etc I didn't have a clue as to what had happened to me. The energy of love is often called God and this is what flooded through me, physically. My mind and body suddenly became one with the Universe as a whole.
Words don't really explain this transformation, this experience is intensely real and can only really be understood once you have been there, because once this has happened it is impossible to go back. Many people's minds may not believe in God, but our essence will never forget as this is what we are, as I was so dramatically reminded of. God=Love=Life. So it doesn't matter what your preferred word for it is, it is all the same. Love cannot die as energy does not die. We are made of love, which is energy. ;)
I know there some members here who will know exactly what I am talking about and it is such a huge relief to find that I am no longer alone. If you are interested in reading my thread where I have opened up about my awakening, then here it is.
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416)
I Know Michael is referring to 2012 because so many people are now having these experiences and once you do, you know there is nothing to fear. This is about a new beginning. Love and light is truth, not what others tell us is true. Love to all xx
I'm glad you're one of the 'awaken' ;) but I do not really agree with you on the God = love part. I as a religious person believe that God is the Almighty, the Creator of the heavens and earth and everything in it. Love is just an energy that God created, so God is so much more than love wich is just a form of energy. I would not give God the acknowledgement if I called him love.
As for the Illuminati part: to really, and I mean really, understand the why of the NWO you must know the story about satan and how he refused to bow down to Adam and what the promise was he made to God when God gave the angel Mikaeel the order to cast away satan out of Heaven.
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As for the Illuminati part: to really, and I mean really, understand the why of the NWO you must know the story about satan and how he refused to bow down to Adam and what the promise was he made to God when God gave the angel Mikaeel the order to cast away satan out of Heaven.
Disagree. I don't believe in any of this God vs Satan crap and I never will, but I'm fully aware of the Illuminati/NWO.
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There is a lot of interesting thoughts here. I cannot comment on the religious aspect to all this because I have never had any belief in it due to the alterations and manipulation of it. I know that from personal experience that you do not need to believe in God to become awakened. The basis of every religion is love. Everyone feels this and this really is all you need.
My awakening happened overnight and completely out of the blue and because I had never looked into religion or prophecy etc I didn't have a clue as to what had happened to me. The energy of love is often called God and this is what flooded through me, physically. My mind and body suddenly became one with the Universe as a whole.
Words don't really explain this transformation, this experience is intensely real and can only really be understood once you have been there, because once this has happened it is impossible to go back. Many people's minds may not believe in God, but our essence will never forget as this is what we are, as I was so dramatically reminded of. God=Love=Life. So it doesn't matter what your preferred word for it is, it is all the same. Love cannot die as energy does not die. We are made of love, which is energy. ;)
I know there some members here who will know exactly what I am talking about and it is such a huge relief to find that I am no longer alone. If you are interested in reading my thread where I have opened up about my awakening, then here it is.
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416)
I Know Michael is referring to 2012 because so many people are now having these experiences and once you do, you know there is nothing to fear. This is about a new beginning. Love and light is truth, not what others tell us is true. Love to all xx
I'm glad you're one of the 'awaken' ;) but I do not really agree with you on the God = love part. I as a religious person believe that God is the Almighty, the Creator of the heavens and earth and everything in it. Love is just an energy that God created, so God is so much more than love wich is just a form of energy. I would not give God the acknowledgement if I called him love.
As for the Illuminati part: to really, and I mean really, understand the why of the NWO you must know the story about satan and how he refused to bow down to Adam and what the promise was he made to God when God gave the angel Mikaeel the order to cast away satan out of Heaven.
Thank you for your comments dancing machine. :)
I do have a slightly different approach to all this, purely for the reason that love was shown to me without words or belief. Pure, unadulterated and without a hint of corruption. There is so much to take in when it comes to religion, what was God called before there was this word given to him. I know that love is just as all powerful as peoples opinion of God. Love is made way too little of. I try to see everything without words as much as possible, words complicate things, labels divide us. We are united with Love/God when we are born but do we know this to be God at this time, no because we do not understand words when first born, only feelings. Everyone will have differing opinions on what they think is right, I just try not to focus too much on other peoples beliefs as life does not need to be this complicated. Life was meant to be simple and others have come in and turned things upside down, inside out and backwards, changed it and changed it again. One thing contradicts another and all in all the whole issue becomes confusing and we have to decide what are beliefs are depending on what we are told or what we read. I was given this transformation with no preconceptions or understanding and with no idea what was going on. I didn't read any books on any of these subjects so what happened to me is as real as it gets. This is my truth because what I was given was not told to me, it became me. Awakening is not just about learning the truth, it is about love/light becoming you. There are so many people who are far from being awakened and they don't stand a chance if they have to get their heads around all this knowledge/belief, and love does not discriminate, it is for all, so this needs to be simplified.
As for the Illuminati agenda etc.. I know what they are up to and what they have planned and they cannot succeed because love will bring us back to life in it's own magical way, individually as well as collectively. As it doing right now. Love will become stronger than fear=God is stronger than Satan.
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Amen.
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I really think it's about Illuminati and New World Order .. :?
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Believe777, thank you soooo much for your post, and for your 2012 awakening post. Somthing truly amazing is happening. My awakening has been going on very slowly..peice by piece for 10 years. But now is the time! So many high vibrations of LOVE.. I can feel it. And I am learning every day how to better live in LOVE. Majorloveprayor.org.....AWESOME... I love it! We CAN heal the world!
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*edit* majorloveprayer.org....oops. Also, 4 years to get it right... It seems we are headed on the right path. Thank you Michael, for all that you are, and all that you've done. Breathtaking. [url=
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As for the Illuminati part: to really, and I mean really, understand the why of the NWO you must know the story about satan and how he refused to bow down to Adam and what the promise was he made to God when God gave the angel Mikaeel the order to cast away satan out of Heaven.
Disagree. I don't believe in any of this God vs Satan crap and I never will, but I'm fully aware of the Illuminati/NWO.
I believe God is not in human form or a man or woman, God is the energies of energies. He's the biggest soul and we're all souls from the huge soul. We're all children of god. I hope I make a little sense. The Illuminati and NWO wants to create dualities. Black and White, Good and Evil, God and Satan, Heaven and Hell, Love and Hate etc. There is only good. But because the Illuminati and NWO want evil into this world they created all the bad things all the dualities.
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MJLover1990, totally agree with you, but to me these negative forces exist, as two sides of the coin. It´s not bad, everthing is part of the same whole. The NWO is part of that negative, and not preciselly the top of it. But it´s true that they are interested in dividing, make us see those two sides as separate and negative thing, and make us fall in the negative or be opposed to it, so our souls remain split and out of harmony.
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MJLover1990, totally agree with you, but to me these negative forces exist, as two sides of the coin. It´s not bad, everthing is part of the same whole. The NWO is part of that negative, and not preciselly the top of it. But it´s true that they are interested in dividing, make us see those two sides as separate and negative thing, and make us fall in the negative or be opposed to it, so our souls remain split and out of harmony.
Absolutely agree with you!
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Believe777, thank you soooo much for your post, and for your 2012 awakening post. Somthing truly amazing is happening. My awakening has been going on very slowly..peice by piece for 10 years. But now is the time! So many high vibrations of LOVE.. I can feel it. And I am learning every day how to better live in LOVE. Majorloveprayor.org.....AWESOME... I love it! We CAN heal the world!
Your very welcome :) I am very happy that there are people like you and others here who can understand and connect with my words,and to discover those who are also going through this transformation. A more gradual awakening I'm sure, is a much steadier path and probably the one I would have chosen if I had any say in the matter, the overnight way is an awful lot to adjust to and make sense of. Either way, many people are being truly blessed and gifted with this wonderful connection to love and to each other. We are also blessed to be sharing such a wonderful and magical journey together ;)
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MJLover1990, totally agree with you, but to me these negative forces exist, as two sides of the coin. It´s not bad, everthing is part of the same whole. The NWO is part of that negative, and not preciselly the top of it. But it´s true that they are interested in dividing, make us see those two sides as separate and negative thing, and make us fall in the negative or be opposed to it, so our souls remain split and out of harmony.
Absolutely agree with you!
I agree with you too ;)
I believe that both sides are necessary, there is always an equal and opposite to everything. Even if it is hard to understand. Everything needs to start balancing out, so we can be in a position to create a free and responsible world. A world that feels loved :)
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Ooooohhhhh That is beautiful! ;)
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he was meaning 2012 but we were on 2009 that are 3 years 2011 ??? if the rehealsas were on 2009...
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Sorry MYLOVELYONE,
maths again:
2009
2010
2011
2012
Passing of 4 years ;)
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@ michangelo The Anti-Christ are a GROUP of people not a INDIVIDUAL . ;)
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There is a lot of interesting thoughts here. I cannot comment on the religious aspect to all this because I have never had any belief in it due to the alterations and manipulation of it. I know that from personal experience that you do not need to believe in God to become awakened. The basis of every religion is love. Everyone feels this and this really is all you need.
My awakening happened overnight and completely out of the blue and because I had never looked into religion or prophecy etc I didn't have a clue as to what had happened to me. The energy of love is often called God and this is what flooded through me, physically. My mind and body suddenly became one with the Universe as a whole.
Words don't really explain this transformation, this experience is intensely real and can only really be understood once you have been there, because once this has happened it is impossible to go back. Many people's minds may not believe in God, but our essence will never forget as this is what we are, as I was so dramatically reminded of. God=Love=Life. So it doesn't matter what your preferred word for it is, it is all the same. Love cannot die as energy does not die. We are made of love, which is energy. ;)
I know there some members here who will know exactly what I am talking about and it is such a huge relief to find that I am no longer alone. If you are interested in reading my thread where I have opened up about my awakening, then here it is.
viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=6416)
I Know Michael is referring to 2012 because so many people are now having these experiences and once you do, you know there is nothing to fear. This is about a new beginning. Love and light is truth, not what others tell us is true. Love to all xx
I'm glad you're one of the 'awaken' ;) but I do not really agree with you on the God = love part. I as a religious person believe that God is the Almighty, the Creator of the heavens and earth and everything in it. Love is just an energy that God created, so God is so much more than love wich is just a form of energy. I would not give God the acknowledgement if I called him love.
As for the Illuminati part: to really, and I mean really, understand the why of the NWO you must know the story about satan and how he refused to bow down to Adam and what the promise was he made to God when God gave the angel Mikaeel the order to cast away satan out of Heaven.
Thank you for your comments dancing machine. :)
I do have a slightly different approach to all this, purely for the reason that love was shown to me without words or belief. Pure, unadulterated and without a hint of corruption. There is so much to take in when it comes to religion, what was God called before there was this word given to him. I know that love is just as all powerful as peoples opinion of God. Love is made way too little of. I try to see everything without words as much as possible, words complicate things, labels divide us. We are united with Love/God when we are born but do we know this to be God at this time, no because we do not understand words when first born, only feelings. Everyone will have differing opinions on what they think is right, I just try not to focus too much on other peoples beliefs as life does not need to be this complicated. Life was meant to be simple and others have come in and turned things upside down, inside out and backwards, changed it and changed it again. One thing contradicts another and all in all the whole issue becomes confusing and we have to decide what are beliefs are depending on what we are told or what we read. I was given this transformation with no preconceptions or understanding and with no idea what was going on. I didn't read any books on any of these subjects so what happened to me is as real as it gets. This is my truth because what I was given was not told to me, it became me. Awakening is not just about learning the truth, it is about love/light becoming you. There are so many people who are far from being awakened and they don't stand a chance if they have to get their heads around all this knowledge/belief, and love does not discriminate, it is for all, so this needs to be simplified.
As for the Illuminati agenda etc.. I know what they are up to and what they have planned and they cannot succeed because love will bring us back to life in it's own magical way, individually as well as collectively. As it doing right now. Love will become stronger than fear=God is stronger than Satan.
I agree that they won't succeed; love and faith are truly stronger than their evil plans.
But what I mean with really understanding 'why' is because there is another idea behind the total control they want. We know they start the NWO so they can have total control. But why? Why do they want total control? What do they gain out of it, besides power and money?
I believe that satan is behind all of it and with the NWO their serving their God; satan.
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And also they are psychopaths...
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imo obama cant be the antichrist because the majority of the world hates him. he has more haters than followers. maybe you need to find someone else to claim as your anti christ.
I do not need to seek it, because it is Obama!
Who said that your whole world hates him?
Or you read it? in Canada it is flatter, Israel is Adulated!
He is idolized by the heads of major nations,
this is not enough for you?
and if nations are behind him, then people are also
because ordinary people have no power, they follow!
There are Muslims that hates OBAMA because they know who he is.
If the great of this world decide what actions we are powerless!
Hmmmm, I think Obama is just the fall guy. Don't forget religion is man made as well. No one of us lived 300 years ago, we don't know what was said in the bible back then. They are pretty good at cover-ups and altering things. I have heard this many times about Obama, but until now I still have to disagree. Maybe I am fooled by his charmes, but I think Obama is the one that really CAN make a change. But I guess time will tell.
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I don't think that Obama can make a change. He just sent more troops in Afghanistan and they are still in Irak for what reason ? I don't even remember what they're doing in Afghanistan ? Innocent people are killed everyday for what ? Freedom ? This does not make sense. This is so unfair and Obama is doing nothing but surprise visits.
I don't think that he is a free man who is in control unfortunately. If he deviates from the plan he is a dead man. We cannot count on Governments but only on ourselves and be smarter because what has to be changed cannot be done with only one person.
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I don't think that Obama can make a change. He just sent more troops in Afghanistan and they are still in Irak for what reason ? I don't even remember what they're doing in Afghanistan ? Innocent people are killed everyday for what ? Freedom ? This does not make sense. This is so unfair and Obama is doing nothing but surprise visits.
I don't think that he is a free man who is in control unfortunately. If he deviates from the plan he is a dead man. We cannot count on Governments but only on ourselves and be smarter because what has to be changed cannot be done with only one person.
Completly agree with you, and I don´t discard him being a puppet scripted to be a dead man.
I know what I´m saying is very daring, but it could be a very hard terror sock to the people who believes in that change.
OMG, now we´re having Echelon here, indeed! :?
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I don't think that Obama can make a change. He just sent more troops in Afghanistan and they are still in Irak for what reason ? I don't even remember what they're doing in Afghanistan ? Innocent people are killed everyday for what ? Freedom ? This does not make sense. This is so unfair and Obama is doing nothing but surprise visits.
I don't think that he is a free man who is in control unfortunately. If he deviates from the plan he is a dead man. We cannot count on Governments but only on ourselves and be smarter because what has to be changed cannot be done with only one person.
well said Sarali.
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For sure Obama is a puppet and he must listen to those who have money,
but it's still the bad guy he is conscious or not!
Watch out the run with China on the Dollar and the Yuan
Is not that the NWO Zhou Xiaochuan wants to bring a NEW DOLLAR?
This leads us right into an economic disaster in the short term,
and who will be the cause of the NWO which will set up a new world currency!
Hopefully just avoid a World War 3!
And pay attention when we speak of peace, the war is near!
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I think that Obama could indeed be a puppet. We are in a position where we have been ruled by an invisible force for too long. They rule by giving commands and to people who probably have no choice but to obey. People on all levels are waking up now and have been for some time. Those who are in a position to change things, I'm sure will/are. The more of us who see, the stronger we become. The more who unite and refuse to follow these orders, the more power they lose, until they are exposed for who they are and powerless.
The most important things here that unite us are Love, sharing a unique experience, a shared understanding and respect for who Michael really is as a person and we all have roles in this real life adventure movie and we don't yet know when or how this is going to end/begin. This is a strong foundation for change, we are spread throughout the world and connect like a spiders web and piece by piece more people will become aware. This is all thats needed, strength in numbers.
Thanks to Michael and his team, this could well be possible. :D