Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Dancing_Machine on March 21, 2010, 05:53:24 PM

Title: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 21, 2010, 05:53:24 PM
Why did they start TII with Wanna Be Startin Something?

The title does make you think if we think hoax related.  :?
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: _Dangerous_ on March 21, 2010, 05:57:24 PM
Yup :D
I think that the orders of the songs are all conected to the Hoax, and also the songs.. I mean Dirty Diana was not in the movie.. Obviously.. cause it has NO relation with it :)
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: frogh777 on March 21, 2010, 05:59:46 PM
HE always starts with this songs.. just watch some old concerts of him.. Most of them start with the song!
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 21, 2010, 06:04:40 PM
Quote from: "frogh777"
HE always starts with this songs.. just watch some old concerts of him.. Most of them start with the song!

I watched his concerts too but he doesn't always starts with WBSS, Dangerous for example starts with Jam.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: whisper on March 21, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
^^ History starts with Scream too..
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: reyferrari on March 22, 2010, 01:01:56 AM
the concerts from the Bad tour start with WBSS..after this tour WBSS always was the second song of the concert (dangerous and history tour) ;)  
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Jacksonology on March 22, 2010, 01:46:16 AM
The story of the songs/What MJ may have meant



Wanna Be Startin Somethin- Paparazzi Attacking Him

Jam- ''Aint to hard for me to Jam'' (Ain't to hard for me to do what i want/need to do)

The Drill- Army of L.O.V.E.

They Don't Care About Us- The Illuminati, Goverment powers don't care about us

Human Nature- Mankinds ways and why they are how they are

Smooth Criminal- Michael plays Ballin' a man who fakes his death in a plane crash

The Way you Make me feel- Michael telling us he Loves us

I Want You Back- I wan't you back as my Fans

The Love You Save- Love me through this time of absence ''his death''

I'll Be There- Even though i am far away  I will always be there for you

Shake your body down to the Ground- Celebrate, Have fun, Excitement.

I Just Can't Stop Loving You- Simple, MJ can't just stop loving Us.

Thriller- Illusions, Mirror and Smoke

Beat It- Message of PEACE and Non-Violence

Black Or White- Non racism, Peace, Unity

Earth Song- Michael telling us Something is very wrong about Earth and what we are doing to it, and we better Change.

Billie Jean- The Paparazzi ''Billie jeans is not my lover she's just the one who thinks that i am the one'' the tabloids telling Lies and Michael defending himself of the Lies.

Man In The Mirror- Making a Personal Change Within to be Different and Contribute to Peace and change our evil ways.

This Is It- The Conclusion of the Hoax to come ''This Is It''

Heal the Word- Possibly something to be mentioned in his post-hoax comeback/return?
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJ_92_Believe on March 22, 2010, 02:27:41 AM
This has nothing to do with the hoax. At all.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: msteetee34 on March 22, 2010, 03:21:57 AM
This doesn't relate to the order of the songs but I did notice important things MJ said.  During the circle when he's with all the dancers and Kenny O. making his speech he said some interesting things. When he's talking about saving the planet he said something like we have to do it because the government/they won't.  He also kept ecouraging everybody to keep going and saying something about a big adventure.  He kept talking about Love in the movie.  He's all telling Orianthi that it's her time to shine.  He also tells his family on one part that he loves them.  I think the things that he said stood out to me more than the song choices.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Cameron on March 22, 2010, 05:17:25 AM
Stop seeing clues where they aren't please ! Don't be paranoid !
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: moonwalkontoes on March 22, 2010, 05:25:58 AM
I think it's significant that the "orange pants" person begins the whole show.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJ_92_Believe on March 22, 2010, 06:06:49 AM
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
I think it's significant that the "orange pants" person begins the whole show.

Please, elaborate  :roll:

I happen to think it's significant that I haven't eaten breakfast yet.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: loyalfan on March 22, 2010, 06:47:35 AM
PLEASE REMEMBER......we are all allowed to express our views......so we can disagree or not....BUT....we dont have the right to tell each other off.......PLEASE STOP.....XXXXX
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJ_92_Believe on March 22, 2010, 07:17:20 AM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
PLEASE REMEMBER......we are all allowed to express our views......so we can disagree or not....BUT....we dont have the right to tell each other off.......PLEASE STOP.....XXXXX

I have the right to say whatever I want to people who are clearly deluding themselves with unimportant "clues"
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 22, 2010, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
The story of the songs/What MJ may have meant

I agree with you. (for the first time I think  :P )
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 22, 2010, 08:27:36 AM
Quote from: "reyferrari"
the concerts from the Bad tour start with WBSS..after this tour WBSS always was the second song of the concert (dangerous and history tour) ;)  

Exactly, so why did TII start with WBSS, he hasn't done that for a while.
( I love your sig, I was staring for a minute at his gorgeous face...)

@MJ_92_Believe, stop being so negative in your posts. It's really annoying...
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJ_92_Believe on March 22, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
the concerts from the Bad tour start with WBSS..after this tour WBSS always was the second song of the concert (dangerous and history tour) ;)  

Exactly, so why did TII start with WBSS, he hasn't done that for a while.
( I love your sig, I was staring for a minute at his gorgeous face...)

@MJ_92_Believe, stop being so negative in your posts. It's really annoying...

I'm only negative towards things which deserve bringing back down to reality.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Jacksonology on March 22, 2010, 01:22:19 PM
Quote from: "MJ_92_Believe"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
the concerts from the Bad tour start with WBSS..after this tour WBSS always was the second song of the concert (dangerous and history tour) ;)  

Exactly, so why did TII start with WBSS, he hasn't done that for a while.
( I love your sig, I was staring for a minute at his gorgeous face...)

@MJ_92_Believe, stop being so negative in your posts. It's really annoying...

I'm only negative towards things which deserve bringing back down to reality.
does that involve cursing other members and degrading them?
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by MJ_92_Believe ยป Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:49 am

This is pathetic.

There were no doubles in the fucking Victory tour.
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by MJ_92_Believe
Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:43 amjessicakthx said *throws laptop out window* People need to stop smoking crack. Crack is whack. Do not be so agresssive,we want to decode the poster, well that's what I do! Crack what is this? You think a guy on the crack may develop that? Jeeeez is not my fault if you did not open minded or you do .
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by MJ_92_Believe
Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:12 pm It's fake, you idiots.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJJ1982 on March 22, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
Quote from: "MJ_92_Believe"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
PLEASE REMEMBER......we are all allowed to express our views......so we can disagree or not....BUT....we dont have the right to tell each other off.......PLEASE STOP.....XXXXX

I have the right to say whatever I want to people who are clearly deluding themselves with unimportant "clues"

Do you think that people will listen to you? I don't think so. Just like you say: Everyone has their right to say whatever they want. So if they want to investigate something that you don't find relevant, then just don't read it, or don't respond to it.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJJ1982 on March 22, 2010, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: "MJ_92_Believe"
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And if people can't take being called "idiots" then that's quite pathetic.

 :shock:  No it's pathetic when you call people idiots... :roll:
We have to treat each other with respect, and we don't need certain language here.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Aintnosunshine on March 22, 2010, 03:17:42 PM
Yes, I`d prefer respect as well.

And why not play with thoughts?

Well, here are mine.

If the lining of TII-songlist and reality are supposed to have something in common, then these are my - fantastic? - ideas:

Songs performed in the film:
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" the beginning (announcement / O2-press-conference)
"Speechless" after 25th June: world stands still / kind of speechless
"Jam" all over www: the real playful MJ is vivible, breaking free (ball through window) -
"They Don't Care About Us" the first footage from TII we saw (trailer)
"Human Nature" all people learn about MJ - the human being
"Smooth Criminal" and yes, he was / is a little prankster / a smooth criminal
"The Way You Make Me Feel" many people are touched by him / his personality
"I Want You Back" they / we want him back!
"The Love You Save" there is so much love for him "saved"
"I'll Be There" his promise becomes our promise (especially after memorial)
"Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" we were all "shaken to the ground" by our emotions
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" we can`t stop loving him (and he can`t stop loving us)
"Thriller" yeah, we realize, it`ll be a real thriller!
"Beat It" we got the message and become lovers, not fighters!
"Black or White" murder? a black or a white murderer? does it matter? (or even BOW)?
"Earth Song" at the Grammys - legendary / legacy
"Billie Jean" false allegations (lie becomes the truth, Murray?) - eventually revealed by himself
"Man in the Mirror" end of illusions and tricks / he comes out of hiding
"This Is It" (played during the credits) end of hoax, explaing everything
"Heal the World" (live audio played during the credits) his everlasting message
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on March 22, 2010, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "MJ_92_Believe"
Quote from: "loyalfan"
PLEASE REMEMBER......we are all allowed to express our views......so we can disagree or not....BUT....we dont have the right to tell each other off.......PLEASE STOP.....XXXXX

I have the right to say whatever I want to people who are clearly deluding themselves with unimportant "clues"

Do you think that people will listen to you? I don't think so. Just like you say: Everyone has their right to say whatever they want.So if they want to investigate something that you don't find relevant, then just don't read it, or don't respond to it.

Exactly ;)


And I also think that the order of the songs may have some meaning... 8-)
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Aintnosunshine on March 22, 2010, 03:31:43 PM
Thanks, AnnieIsNotOK!

And what do you think of my list / interpretation?
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Sarahli on March 22, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
You have to add Threatened (to Thriller) Michael is hiding but well aware of what's going on. Some people should be threatened... :D
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Aintnosunshine on March 22, 2010, 03:48:50 PM
:D

You`re right.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on March 22, 2010, 03:53:25 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Thanks, AnnieIsNotOK!

And what do you think of my list / interpretation?


I happen to be one of those who firmly believe that this hoax started at the 02  conference... that those shows were'nt meant to be...(some other times,maybe,IDK)
I find your list interesting indeed...well done ;)
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 22, 2010, 03:58:39 PM
Quote from: "MJ_92_Believe"
And if people can't take being called "idiots" then that's quite pathetic.

Do you really expect others not to feel insulted when you call them idiots?  :roll:
You don't have to agree with everything on this website, and you can make that clear while still being respectful to others.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 22, 2010, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Yes, I`d prefer respect as well.

And why not play with thoughts?

Well, here are mine.

If the lining of TII-songlist and reality are supposed to have something in common, then these are my - fantastic? - ideas:

Songs performed in the film:
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" the beginning (announcement / O2-press-conference)
"Speechless" after 25th June: world stands still / kind of speechless
"Jam" all over www: the real playful MJ is vivible, breaking free (ball through window) -
"They Don't Care About Us" the first footage from TII we saw (trailer)
"Human Nature" all people learn about MJ - the human being
"Smooth Criminal" and yes, he was / is a little prankster / a smooth criminal
"The Way You Make Me Feel" many people are touched by him / his personality
"I Want You Back" they / we want him back!
"The Love You Save" there is so much love for him "saved"
"I'll Be There" his promise becomes our promise (especially after memorial)
"Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" we were all "shaken to the ground" by our emotions
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" we can`t stop loving him (and he can`t stop loving us)
"Thriller" yeah, we realize, it`ll be a real thriller!
"Beat It" we got the message and become lovers, not fighters!
"Black or White" murder? a black or a white murderer? does it matter? (or even BOW)?
"Earth Song" at the Grammys - legendary / legacy
"Billie Jean" false allegations (lie becomes the truth, Murray?) - eventually revealed by himself
"Man in the Mirror" end of illusions and tricks / he comes out of hiding
"This Is It" (played during the credits) end of hoax, explaing everything
"Heal the World" (live audio played during the credits) his everlasting message

I like your post!  :D
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Aintnosunshine on March 22, 2010, 04:05:02 PM
Thank you, Dancing Machine   :D  :D
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on March 22, 2010, 04:40:30 PM
Aintnosunshine and Jacksonology - your analyses are brilliant! I love them both! There MUST be something in it! The choice of songs is not random!
"I'll be performing songs my fans wanna hear... "
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Jacksonology on March 22, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Yes, I`d prefer respect as well.

And why not play with thoughts?

Well, here are mine.

If the lining of TII-songlist and reality are supposed to have something in common, then these are my - fantastic? - ideas:

Songs performed in the film:
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" the beginning (announcement / O2-press-conference)
"Speechless" after 25th June: world stands still / kind of speechless
"Jam" all over www: the real playful MJ is vivible, breaking free (ball through window) -
"They Don't Care About Us" the first footage from TII we saw (trailer)
"Human Nature" all people learn about MJ - the human being
"Smooth Criminal" and yes, he was / is a little prankster / a smooth criminal
"The Way You Make Me Feel" many people are touched by him / his personality
"I Want You Back" they / we want him back!
"The Love You Save" there is so much love for him "saved"
"I'll Be There" his promise becomes our promise (especially after memorial)
"Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" we were all "shaken to the ground" by our emotions
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" we can`t stop loving him (and he can`t stop loving us)
"Thriller" yeah, we realize, it`ll be a real thriller!
"Beat It" we got the message and become lovers, not fighters!
"Black or White" murder? a black or a white murderer? does it matter? (or even BOW)?
"Earth Song" at the Grammys - legendary / legacy
"Billie Jean" false allegations (lie becomes the truth, Murray?) - eventually revealed by himself
"Man in the Mirror" end of illusions and tricks / he comes out of hiding
"This Is It" (played during the credits) end of hoax, explaing everything
"Heal the World" (live audio played during the credits) his everlasting message
Nice analysis
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Em on March 22, 2010, 05:43:28 PM
Quote from: "_Dangerous_"
I think that the orders of the songs are all conected to the Hoax, and also the songs.

If this really a hoax, I think everything, the songs and what is spoken, is significant.
If this really a hoax, there was never meant to be a concert, but this film.
In that case, everything is important.

What stood out for me was after MJ's jacket was supposed to be burning in Beat It, it ended with MJ saying "Let it burn" while he was walking off into the darkness. Then Kenny O said,"We'll break for 10 minutes".
The first thing I thought was 10 months.
10 months from June would bring us up to April.
Isn't this the month people are talking about?
The thing about this, that after the "burning" (standing for the "end of something"), they say 10 minute break while we are seeing MJ going off into the darkness..

I still say the thing about MJ's inner ear is significant too, but can't quite figure that one out yet.

Well,I guess we will have to wait on the old doc next month to see what will happen.

Em
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: reyferrari on March 22, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
the concerts from the Bad tour start with WBSS..after this tour WBSS always was the second song of the concert (dangerous and history tour) ;)  

Exactly, so why did TII start with WBSS, he hasn't done that for a while.
( I love your sig, I was staring for a minute at his gorgeous face...)

@MJ_92_Believe, stop being so negative in your posts. It's really annoying...

I think he choose WBSS again cuz is the perfect song for the beginning of any show/movie/hoax...after all, He ''wanna be startin something'' ..isn't?  8-)
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on March 22, 2010, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: "reyferrari"

I think he choose WBSS again cuz is the perfect song for the beginning of any show/movie/hoax...after all, He ''wanna be startin something'' ..isn't?  8-)

My thoughts also ;)
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: ROFL on March 22, 2010, 06:46:40 PM
Ok Imma be a bitch for 2 seconds : MJ_92_Believe u need a glass of  STFU!

U just ruined this whole thread with your useless posts!!
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: MJLuva84 on March 23, 2010, 07:03:36 AM
From years ago MJ has started many shows with this song...I don't think there is anything significant about that.
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: _Dangerous_ on March 23, 2010, 12:14:03 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Yes, I`d prefer respect as well.

And why not play with thoughts?

Well, here are mine.

If the lining of TII-songlist and reality are supposed to have something in common, then these are my - fantastic? - ideas:

Songs performed in the film:
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" the beginning (announcement / O2-press-conference)
"Speechless" after 25th June: world stands still / kind of speechless
"Jam" all over www: the real playful MJ is vivible, breaking free (ball through window) -
"They Don't Care About Us" the first footage from TII we saw (trailer)
"Human Nature" all people learn about MJ - the human being
"Smooth Criminal" and yes, he was / is a little prankster / a smooth criminal
"The Way You Make Me Feel" many people are touched by him / his personality
"I Want You Back" they / we want him back!
"The Love You Save" there is so much love for him "saved"
"I'll Be There" his promise becomes our promise (especially after memorial)
"Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)" we were all "shaken to the ground" by our emotions
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" we can`t stop loving him (and he can`t stop loving us)
"Thriller" yeah, we realize, it`ll be a real thriller!
"Beat It" we got the message and become lovers, not fighters!
"Black or White" murder? a black or a white murderer? does it matter? (or even BOW)?
"Earth Song" at the Grammys - legendary / legacy
"Billie Jean" false allegations (lie becomes the truth, Murray?) - eventually revealed by himself
"Man in the Mirror" end of illusions and tricks / he comes out of hiding
"This Is It" (played during the credits) end of hoax, explaing everything
"Heal the World" (live audio played during the credits) his everlasting message
Nice analysis

OMG that is a great post..!
and.. correct me if im wrong..
we're kinda in the Billie Jean part ? XD  :lol:
Title: Re: TII - Wanna Be Startin Something
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 24, 2010, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: "reyferrari"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "reyferrari"
the concerts from the Bad tour start with WBSS..after this tour WBSS always was the second song of the concert (dangerous and history tour) ;)  

Exactly, so why did TII start with WBSS, he hasn't done that for a while.
( I love your sig, I was staring for a minute at his gorgeous face...)

@MJ_92_Believe, stop being so negative in your posts. It's really annoying...

I think he choose WBSS again cuz is the perfect song for the beginning of any show/movie/hoax...after all, He ''wanna be startin something'' ..isn't?  8-)

That's what I was thinking too!  ;)

@Dangerous, yep I think we're somewhere around Earth Song / Billie Jean I guess  :)
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