Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on March 19, 2010, 10:59:55 PM
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http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lacraspeaksout (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lacraspeaksout)
JOE JACKSON ON NEXT SHOW WITH NEWS....."THERE'S A BOMBSHELL READY TO COME DOWN"...HE WILL REVEAL IT" watch and listen at 21.32
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this is also on u tube under LACRA
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Thanks......can u post the link for it....with love L.O.V.E xox P.S We are a bit slow here in Australia. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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OMG! I just cannot get my hopes up to much. But...could it be....? BAM SOON???????
What do you all think? It didn't sound like bad news, did it? The news that Joe is going give? :o
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Some excerpts, and not completely word for word but close enough.
Twiggy from MJHoaxLive: I went to 100 Carolwood on Sept 10th and the guy who took the ambulance pic was standing by the mailbox, they were doing live streaming. There were movers taking out MJ's belongings. One was the 'Prince the boy king' painting.
Majestic Magnificent: Things are being sold of Michael's.....he wanted his children to have those things. I feel that when people are doing this there is one ulterior motive and that is money. These people (Juliens) believe they have a legal right to this stuff.
MM on Conrad: It's pre-meditated. I think the things he got invoved in he got caught up in the money end of it by AEG. I think all are involved in a conspiracy against MJ. I truly believe this man was paid off, it was about money, this Conrad Murray guy was on the take.
MM on Thome Thome: He was truly the beginning, the focal point of this thing when it began, nobody in the family liked this guy - he was head of MJ's business at the time and brought in all these people to do the deal. I was told Thome is not his real name, he was wanted by the FBI, he had a lot of bad stuff going on around him that needs to be looked into. For some reason the DA is not looking into this guy. I know his real name (can't remember it fully). Interviewer asks him if it would be criminal, MM replies 'Yeah it would be criminal'.
MM on Dileo: Is a Judas (!!) F.D. would sit down at Katherine and Joe's table, he has been in the Jackson's house, to spend the night (i was there).......i think he got his hand in the cookie jar with all of these other guys, he betrayed him, and Joe and Katherine can't stand him. He was on our side we thought. we thought he was a great guy, out for the best for Michael............he's exploited him like everybody else, he ain't no good.
MM on Sony: Michael didn't like Tommy Mottola. It's all about Michael's Publishing. Sony didn't want MJ to have that (the 50% stake). They were out to get him. It's all about money from the very beginning. John Branca, McClain, Joel Katz - they are only there for one reason, money and that's it.
MM: My closing words are for the fans. You have to get behind Eddie Jones and his show. People don't understand the power that you have, and when he called on you all to march, i want you to march with us (me and Joe).
You all should watch this every Saturday at 3.30pm Pacific Time. Also check out MJHoaxLive for definite.
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Please listen and comment, everything you say :|
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This all sounds like he really was murdered and not just manslaughter :cry: It just can't be so. I feel sick and totally numb.
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Well, whatever the truth justice has to be served right? That has to be people's motivation. If all this is true, watching corruption on a grand scale like this, to one of the greatest musicians ever lived, right under people's noses and in full view of everyone watching - it's really remarkable. More so because MJ did warn about this, but it was dismissed as paranoia. The great thing is Twiggy is actually on the ground in LA and doing her own investigating. She is witnessing and capturing things that wouldn't be seen if she was not there on a daily basis. It is really surprising how many people have already forgotten about MJ. So many people are completely unaware of what is really going on. When i speak to people i know about all this they have no idea of what could be unfolding. The newspapers in England do not report on anything regarding MJ. Even when CM was arraigned I don't think they even mentioned that.
While I remain open to the idea that MJ was actually murdered in a conspiracy, my biggest problem with that at the moment is how do we know the propofol overdose was not really an accident?
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If this is true, and he really is dead. Then I believe how Brian Oxman described it. They were playing Russian roulet (sp?) with him with regards to the propofol. He might have had it several times before and nothing happened, but like the Russian game, eventually he was bound to get the bullet. And to me, that means murder. :evil:
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Twiggy seems to have a really good grasp and understanding of the case:
[youtube:2azcpwfz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Z7rrB8H9o&feature[/youtube:2azcpwfz]
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With that by Germaine Tohme Tohme on 25 June in the hospital?
After the course is accompanied Michael's body to the helicopter, ... "I wonder again?, Really happened that day? :?:
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i thought that all his belongings were taken out by latoya and janet in removal vans within 2 days of mike passing - so who is lying?
if there was a plot to kill mj and he was aware of why as someone said on the site would he allow himself to be knocked out each night?
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thanks so much for the post - brings new life to the site
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God, I am beginning to believe he was murdered. Is it just me, or has the air been let out of everybody else's balloon? Please don't get me wrong, I want to know the truth and justice be done as well as everybody else. But I was really hoping for him being alive and there be a BAM day.
Doesn't look like it's going to happen, according to this. Or is this still part of the hoax? Would Brian Oxman put his profession on the line and be in on the hoax? Wouldn't he be disbarred if it comes to pass that it was a hoax?
I'm really feeling sick right about now.
I HATE SONY!! To think they are making all this money on him.
I pray for you Joe Jackson. You go and we will be with you!!!!
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if mike is dead maybe the family should consider giving the hoax believers undeniable proof so what we can turn our attention towards justice for mj
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I am freaking out here! Does this mean that Kenny was in on this conspiracy as well? My God, to think of all the shit that Michael went through in his life. Maybe God called him home early to get him away from all the evil that was being done to him.
I want so much to beLIEve, but it is really difficult with all this coming out about Sony and the executors of the estate.
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if mike is dead maybe the family should consider giving the hoax believers undeniable proof so what we can turn our attention towards justice for mj
Oh, I couldn't agree more and that is what I've been saying all along. That is the main thing that has kept me believing in the hoax. Because you know the family knows about beLIEvers and what we think. Why not address it, if it's not true? By not doing so, it makes it look like they are stringing us along so they can capitalize on making money on him, just like everybody else. I reeeeally don't want to believe that of Michael's family.
Perhaps that is the bombshell that Joe is going to address. The hoax and how it is really not real?
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but mike spoke out - but where was everyone, who was there - no one - they just left him to his faith (as LMP said) - if that is the case?
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why dont the family do a campaign web site themselves and get the public behind them? strange when stephen lawrence was murdered the family were united and more pro active - nothing was more important than justice for stephen - so a person could question the song releases, the books, the reality shows, the radio appearences and the tv appearences that do not focus directly on justice for mj
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Does anybody know, is Twiggy a beLIEver or an MJ fan that thinks he is dead?
She said the blog name is MJhoaxlive but although that is the name, should it really be MJconspiracy?
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Michael distrusted everyone, I still think he's still alive, maybe all this will expose those who were behind the conpiracion to kill him. 8-)
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From your mouth to God's ears, Paual. I so hope you are right :)
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Sorry for the typo, I meant, Paula-c :oops:
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MeandMyShadow ;)
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Michael distrusted everyone, I still think he's still alive, maybe all this will expose those who were behind the conpiracion to kill him. 8-)
AMEN! I absolutely agree. :mrgreen:
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Okay, let me get this straight. In order for the hoax to be real, the executors and Sony (whoever all of them are) would have to really believe he is dead. Otherwise, they would not be able to have control of the estate and be able to make the 250 million dollar deal, TII, etc., correct?
So, assume that be the case and he is really alive. They make all these bogus deals and then, BAM, he is alive and reappears.
What does that prove? It would prove that they are money hungry, but legally, are they doing anything against the law, because according to the will, they have the legal right to do so. EVEN THOUGH, FANS AND ANYONE WHO HAS ANY DECENCY WOULD NOT DO THAT, they still legally have the right.
So, what would the hoax expose? Or is there more to it? Is he also trying to bring down all the bad doctors in Hollywood?
I know there is more, I mean, spreading his message of LOVE and taking care of the planet and all, but as far as bringing and exposing people. How does this help?
I guess I am just not getting it. Sorry for being dense :oops:
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i myself do not see the point of dying to hoax, losing control to expose pp you hate, that you have put in control whilst your pretending to be dead
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i myself do not see the point of dying to hoax, losing control to expose pp you hate, that you have put in control whilst your pretending to be dead
Me too, there has to be more to it that I am not getting. Unless...what Joe is trying to prove is the truth? He really was murdered?
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i myself do not see the point of dying to hoax, losing control to expose pp you hate, that you have put in control whilst your pretending to be dead
Maybe it's the only way to "prove" the conspiracy and corruption. Catch 'em in the act, if you will. This is what I hope for, because if not, the evidence is leaning towards a successful conspiracy of murder. These next few months will be telling with the Murray trial.
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but if that is the case
then why no crying
why no photo of him in the coffin to embed the reality
why no unity - why the book, why the magazines, why the reality show, why the self publicity - why did jermaine say on the dynasty show after seeng TII that he was in overdrive (something like that - to get going with the J5 stuff)
why not joining of the justice for mj campaign publiclally
i refer you back again to stephen lawrence and what about who got stolen maddy - no stone unturned.
if your child or siblings got murdered you would do more -surely - time would stop - all your plans would stop to set this in motion
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i feel if your in a celebrity family and very well connected that you would do more to voice this
on the show - mr majestic - said dont sue the joe jackson sue me - why take a backseat - is it the julian company selling the pic of prince?
if he was murdered and the family all know and say that cm is a scapegoat- it seems that they are towing the line
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but if that is the case
then why no crying
why no photo of him in the coffin to embed the reality
why no unity - why the book, why the magazines, why the reality show, why the self publicity - why did jermaine say on the dynasty show after seeng TII that he was in overdrive (something like that - to get going with the J5 stuff)
why not joining of the justice for mj campaign publiclally
i refer you back again to stephen lawrence and what about who got stolen maddy - no stone unturned.
if your child or siblings got murdered you would do more -surely - time would stop - all your plans would stop to set this in motion
This is what gives me support and hope to believe the first option thus far, more than the latter:
Maybe it's the only way to "prove" the conspiracy and corruption. Catch 'em in the act, if you will. This is what I hope for, because if not, the evidence is leaning towards a successful conspiracy of murder. These next few months will be telling with the Murray trial.
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Yeah, but maybe they don't show their tears on camera. I have an aunt, who, several years ago, lost her son to a diabetic coma. Finally, they shut the life support off. It was terrible. He would just lay there like a vegetable, jerking in his sleep, his facial muscles would make expressions like he was in pain, even though, he may not have been. It was really pitiful.
She was very very close to him. But every time we would see her, she would just act normal, like nothing happened. Even at the wake and funeral. Like she accepted it to be God's will. I couldn't figure it out. Then, I believe my uncle told us that at home, she was a basket case. Screaming, crying, just carrying on in the privacy of their home.
So, who knows how they are off camera. You would think having a televised public memorial though, and being a show business family, they would show their emotions more to the public.
Or perhaps it is the way they were raised? Maybe Joe thought it was weak to cry in public? That you should hold it inside? Just a thought.
I don't know, nothing makes sense, but it is leaning towards a real conspiracy of murder. And I really hope it is the other, that this is what it takes to bring them down. But like I said, if the will states that those in charge can do whatever, then how is that exposing them? I just don't get it.
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What you are all talking about here is a legal kind of entrapment. Here's the thing. Who are we trying to catch out? If we are trying to catch Murray out, did Murray give MJ a lethal dose of propofol? If you wanted to prove that Murray was going to give MJ a lethal dose, exactly how would you set that up without putting MJ at risk?
So the only other theory could be that Murray is being used to make people think MJ has died, and also as a distraction to make the real culprits behind 'a conspiracy' think he is the only one being investigated. Perhaps Murray was approached to take part in a 'murder', informed authorities of what was being planned and was advised to pretend to have carried it out so the rest of the conspiracy can take place whilst being monitored.
IMO, given the above arguments, if you are going to talk about setting the whole thing up so people's criminal actions can be caught, Murray has to be cooperating with the operation and is not someone who is being watched. You also have to ask when did the hoax begin? MJ set out to do these concerts. All the tickets were sold. AEG booked up the O2 for 50 dates - i think they planned on him performing. Frank Dileo said he was with him every time he went to rehearsal. So was Karen Faye. Yet Frank is being openly vilified by the family and Karen says MJ was exploited. You would think that if authorities were engaged in a set-up, you would at least instruct people to keep their mouths shut about their suspicions.
So does it really sound viable? My honest opinion so far is - not likely.
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What you are all talking about here is a legal kind of entrapment. Here's the thing. Who are we trying to catch out? If we are trying to catch Murray out, did Murray give MJ a lethal dose of propofol? If you wanted to prove that Murray was going to give MJ a lethal dose, exactly how would you set that up without putting MJ at risk?
So the only other theory could be that Murray is being used to make people think MJ has died, and also as a distraction to make the real culprits behind 'a conspiracy' think he is the only one being investigated. Perhaps Murray was approached to take part in a 'murder', informed authorities of what was being planned and was advised to pretend to have carried it out so the rest of the conspiracy can take place whilst being monitored.
IMO, given the above arguments, if you are going to talk about setting the whole thing up so people's criminal actions can be caught, Murray has to be cooperating with the operation and is not someone who is being watched. You also have to ask when did the hoax begin? MJ set out to do these concerts. All the tickets were sold. AEG booked up the O2 for 50 dates - i think they planned on him performing. Frank Dileo said he was with him every time he went to rehearsal. So was Karen Faye. Yet Frank is being openly vilified by the family and Karen says MJ was exploited. You would think that if authorities were engaged in a set-up, you would at least instruct people to keep their mouths shut about their suspicions.
So does it really sound viable? My honest opinion so far is - not likely.
Your opinion is not likely as to what? A conspiracy murder or the hoax?
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My opinion at the moment, having gone through the above argument, is that it is not likely that this is a hoax. However, although the family keep stating that there was a conspiracy, we have very little evidence to prove that it was more than an accident.
For me the big question still is did Murray intentionally harm MJ? What do his actions and behaviour suggest?
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i myself do not see the point of dying to hoax, losing control to expose pp you hate, that you have put in control whilst your pretending to be dead
What if those people were so in control of you that you HAD to fake your death? I can absolutely see why Michael did this, he had no other choice it was either fake his own death or be killed.
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What if those people were so in control of you that you HAD to fake your death? I can absolutely see why Michael did this, he had no other choice it was either fake his own death or be killed.
But he did not have to accept medication. He did not have to let the doctor in, if he suspected Murray was going to harm him.
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i thought that all his belongings were taken out by latoya and janet in removal vans within 2 days of mike passing - so who is lying?
if there was a plot to kill mj and he was aware of why as someone said on the site would he allow himself to be knocked out each night?
But is there really proof that he allowed it every night? As far as we know they could have occasionally slipped something in his drink to knock him out and have him sign documents in a groggy state (including the Will). In addition, hook him up on an IV the 25th
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What if those people were so in control of you that you HAD to fake your death? I can absolutely see why Michael did this, he had no other choice it was either fake his own death or be killed.
But he did not have to accept medication. He did not have to let the doctor in, if he suspected Murray was going to harm him.
For all we know, Murray could be the hero in this story. Maybe he knew what was going on, and tipped Mike off, which then led to the necessitated fake death. Murray could likely be the scapegoat used for the "escape plan". (Or some variation thereof, like maybe Murray was chosen and used as a scapegoat by Michael from the very beginning in order to help him fake his death for his protection.)
This is why Murray's trial and the information that comes from it are especially important. It will give us more information to determine what really happened: murder or escape.
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I am freaking out here! Does this mean that Kenny was in on this conspiracy as well? My God, to think of all the shit that Michael went through in his life. Maybe God called him home early to get him away from all the evil that was being done to him.
I want so much to beLIEve, but it is really difficult with all this coming out about Sony and the executors of the estate.
Money is the root of all evil and Michael sat on one of the biggest piles of it. From the very start it had all appearance that some scrupulous shady people attempted to murder Michael. However whether they succeeded or if he could get protection in time remains the question. There are only a few people who know whether he is truly dead or alive. The rest can only guess.
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What you are all talking about here is a legal kind of entrapment. Here's the thing. Who are we trying to catch out? If we are trying to catch Murray out, did Murray give MJ a lethal dose of propofol? If you wanted to prove that Murray was going to give MJ a lethal dose, exactly how would you set that up without putting MJ at risk?
Dilute the propofol or exchange it with a harmless substance and put a tracable marker in it so it can be determined how many of it was administered. Just a suggestion. However: Murray would probably have noticed concerning vital signs. Conclusion: IF it is a hoax, Murray is likely to have acted in favour of Michael (OR UCLA did manage to rescue Michael and THEN the hoax was decided upon). Which supports your following argument:
So the only other theory could be that Murray is being used to make people think MJ has died, and also as a distraction to make the real culprits behind 'a conspiracy' think he is the only one being investigated. Perhaps Murray was approached to take part in a 'murder', informed authorities of what was being planned and was advised to pretend to have carried it out so the rest of the conspiracy can take place whilst being monitored.
IMO, given the above arguments, if you are going to talk about setting the whole thing up so people's criminal actions can be caught, Murray has to be cooperating with the operation and is not someone who is being watched. You also have to ask when did the hoax begin? MJ set out to do these concerts. All the tickets were sold. AEG booked up the O2 for 50 dates - i think they planned on him performing. Frank Dileo said he was with him every time he went to rehearsal. So was Karen Faye. Yet Frank is being openly vilified by the family and Karen says MJ was exploited. You would think that if authorities were engaged in a set-up, you would at least instruct people to keep their mouths shut about their suspicions.
So does it really sound viable? My honest opinion so far is - not likely.
I don't think people would be instructed to shut their mouths by authorities. They would just let natural communications take their course, the lesser people know about it the better, for they would only pose a risk of blowing the whole operation. Karen Faye was instructed to shut her mouth though, by DiLeo as she claims.
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MJLover1990 wrote;
What if those people were so in control of you that you HAD to fake your death? I can absolutely see why Michael did this, he had no other choice it was either fake his own death or be killed.
Okay, I've always thought that theory 8-)
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Concerning Joe Jackson's bombshell: it probably has to do with the medical records he obtained from UCLA recently. Regarding the family's suspicions of a murder conspiracy, it likely has to do with that as well in order to consider it a bombshell.
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
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I have mentioned this before, but if you research all the people suing him for millions and the turmoil that was going on after announcing the comeback at 02, I would presume MJ had had enough. It just proves that his real friends weren't many, and most of his business associates could not be trusted. THEY DIDN'T WANT MJ THE PERSON. THEY WERE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE MONEY HIS NAME GENERATES...
I always believed MJ was smart enough to see what was happenning around him and tried to get out of it. Maybe faking his death was the only way to catch the corrupt people around him, and catch them in "action." I still think CM is working for MJ. Just too coincidental to die just before a comeback. Why not before???????? This is why I believe he is still alive.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE54 ... dChannel=0 (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE54A5CY20090511?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0)
"Michael Jackson may not perform till 2010 says AllGood Entertainment Inc From:
The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Telegraph
MICHAEL Jackson is facing hostility over his upcoming tour as a music promoter plans to sue to block him claiming that a contract prevents him from giving a concert until July 2010. "
New Jersey-based AllGood Entertainment Inc contends it signed an agreement in November with Jackson's manager, Frank DiLeo, committing the singer to perform in July 2010 along with his brothers from the Jackson Five and sister Janet Jackson.
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I have mentioned this before, but if you research all the people suing him for millions and the turmoil that was going on after announcing the comeback at 02, I would presume MJ had had enough. It just proves that his real friends weren't many, and most of his business associates could not be trusted. THEY DIDN'T WANT MJ THE PERSON. THEY WERE ONLY INTERESTED IN THE MONEY HIS NAME GENERATES...
I always believed MJ was smart enough to see what was happenning around him and tried to get out of it. Maybe faking his death was the only way to catch the corrupt people around him, and catch them in "action." I still think CM is working for MJ. Just too coincidental to die just before a comeback. Why not before???????? This is why I believe he is still alive.
"Michael Jackson may not perform till 2010 says AllGood Entertainment Inc From:
The Daily Telegraph, The Daily Telegraph
MICHAEL Jackson is facing hostility over his upcoming tour as a music promoter plans to sue to block him claiming that a contract prevents him from giving a concert until July 2010. "
New Jersey-based AllGood Entertainment Inc contends it signed an agreement in November with Jackson's manager, Frank DiLeo, committing the singer to perform in July 2010 along with his brothers from the Jackson Five and sister Janet Jackson.C:Documents and SettingsUserDesktopMichael Jackson may not perform till 2010 says AllGood Entertainment Inc The Daily Telegraph.htm
Yeah, but what does that have to do with the hoax? He hoaxed his death because of a previous contract agreement? Meaning, he faked his death to get out of the O2 deal, and he will reappear July 2010? If that be the case, wouldn't AEG then turn around and sue him for skipping out on them?
One of the things that made me believe in the hoax was just what you said. Why right before the comeback? IF, he was hooked on drugs for years like we are lead to believe, why didn't it happen before now?
I am so confused. I want to believe the hoax, but this talk show with Joe is looking more believable about it being a real murder. On the other hand, if it were real, WHY is Murray out still practicing medicine?
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I asked this before but nobody replied. Does anybody know if Twiggy is a beLIEver?
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I asked this before but nobody replied. Does anybody know if Twiggy is a beLIEver?
By all accounts, it appears she thinks he was murdered as part of a conspiracy.
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Twiggy thinks that Michael was killed, all right, she does a good job, but I do not forget all the reasons why we're here. :geek:
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if there was a plot to kill mj and he was aware of why as someone said on the site would he allow himself to be knocked out each night?
Exactly. Kai Chase started working for MJ in March and was let go in May. She was rehired again in the beginning of June (there was a gap of 3 weeks between being fired and rehired). She said normally CM would come down at 10 or 10.30am to pick up breakfast for MJ. CM would normally arrive in the evening and it was her understanding that he would stay overnight. She would see CM carrying oxygen tanks down in the morning sometimes. Murray was apparently a regular daily fixture at MJ's house in June. She noticed he was thinner and less vibrant in June and she wondered if he had been eating properly. On the 24th June, she said he ate lunch with his children but he was moving a bit slow and seemed not really with it. She also packed his dinner for him to go to rehearsal with.
So you have to wonder what was Murray needed overnight for if it wasn't medical supervision. MJ must have wanted Murray there that regularly, but it also kind of indicates that MJ did agree to use propofol on a regular basis otherwise why else would Murray be there? So based on this, that injection on June 25th was not a one-off in terms of propofol use. What is in question is whether Murray intended (for whatever reason) to kill MJ with it on that night or if it was just an accident.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32203425/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32203425/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GXzWLYp ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GXzWLYp1-0&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4F ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBjA0X4FtkY&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTWQk7u8 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTWQk7u8pzw&feature=related)
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
Majestic said both Katherine and Joe do not like Frank Dileo. So any suggestions that Frank is in on a hoax has got to be false.
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Twiggy thinks that Michael was killed, all right, she does a good job, but I do not forget all the reasons why we're here. :geek:
Twiggy assesses the facts as they happen. She has though pointed out inconsistencies. Her information I think is massively important. She is as up to date as you will get. If you want to know what's going on, follow her.
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What do you all think of SeeingClues? His (or her) blog is pretty informative IMO. I think they are beLIEvers :)
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Doesn't Twiggy say from MJ hoax death live???? My thoughts are the same as above. Murray was hired to do the job, but couldn't go through with it and told MJ, and then the escape was planned from there.....Conrad Murray is being protected by the FBI until he goes to trial and while he is at court. The bad guys need to go down before MJ comes back, otherwise he will really be killed!!! xxooxx
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What do you all think of SeeingClues? His (or her) blog is pretty informative IMO. I think they are beLIEvers :)
I debunked the evidence concerning sign language at the memorial saying he was alive. I haven't really looked into the rest so can't comment.
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IMO Twiggy really is the fact finder and reporter of info on the ground in LA as it happens. She is connected to various people that matter and she does get the scoop - always! Really, she is investigating in a journalistic sense. I have read her stuff. Hardly any of it is theory, it's just plain facts. If you really want to know what is going on day-to-day that isn't being reported on, read her work. It's very interesting and sometimes shocking. If you don't want to be out of loop I think you should observe what she writes and listen to the show on a saturday, it's not nonsense.
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IMO Twiggy really is the fact finder and reporter of info on the ground in LA as it happens. She is connected to various people that matter and she does get the scoop - always! Really, she is investigating in a journalistic sense. I have read her stuff. Hardly any of it is theory, it's just plain facts. If you really want to know what is going on day-to-day that isn't being reported on, read her work. It's very interesting and sometimes shocking. If you don't want to be out of loop I think you should observe what she writes and listen to the show on a saturday, it's not nonsense.
any links
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Arabian nights -
The show - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lacraspeaksout (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lacraspeaksout)
Twiggy's page - http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/ (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/)
Just read through the blog archive on the right. Are these the links you wanted?
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Arabian nights -
The show - http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lacraspeaksout (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lacraspeaksout)
Twiggy's page - http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/ (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/)
Just read through the blog archive on the right. Are these the links you wanted?
Here is her Twitter, as well:
http://twitter.com/MJHOAXLIVE (http://twitter.com/MJHOAXLIVE)
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478 (http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478)
You may want to read the rest of the conversation to put it into context
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478 (http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478)
You may want to read the rest of the conversation to put it into context
Okay, so he threatened her to not speak to fans thru the internet, back in May? I wonder why?
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was prince the boy king painting at the 02
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http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/200 ... ings_N.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2009-08-20-jackson-paintings_N.htm)
seems like the estate agreed for the painting to be part of a touring exhibition
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478 (http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478)
You may want to read the rest of the conversation to put it into context
Okay, so he threatened her to not speak to fans thru the internet, back in May? I wonder why?
Well according to her all of the crew was forbidden to speak as soon as things went bad.
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Raven » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:18 pm
MeandMyShadow wrote:
I am freaking out here! Does this mean that Kenny was in on this conspiracy as well? My God, to think of all the shit that Michael went through in his life. Maybe God called him home early to get him away from all the evil that was being done to him.
I want so much to beLIEve, but it is really difficult with all this coming out about Sony and the executors of the estate.
Money is the root of all evil and Michael sat on one of the biggest piles of it.
Well, actually it is the love of money is the root of all evil. Money in itself is not evil. When you allow a thing(material) to control you.
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2good2btrue » Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:55 am
Doesn't Twiggy say from MJ hoax death live???? My thoughts are the same as above. Murray was hired to do the job, but couldn't go through with it and told MJ, and then the escape was planned from there.....Conrad Murray is being protected by the FBI until he goes to trial and while he is at court. The bad guys need to go down before MJ comes back, otherwise he will really be killed!!! xxooxx
Hmmmm,2good..what an interesting point.
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For God and that is what some human beings for the money .. to kill, and with this I am not saying that Michael is dead. :geek:
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478 (http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478)
You may want to read the rest of the conversation to put it into context
Okay, so he threatened her to not speak to fans thru the internet, back in May? I wonder why?
Well according to her all of the crew was forbidden to speak as soon as things went bad.
But what does she mean as soon as things went bad? What does she say happened that went bad? Is she talking about June 25th or before?
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Karen says she was told by FD to keep quiet? About what????
http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478 (http://twitter.com/wingheart/status/10634781478)
You may want to read the rest of the conversation to put it into context
Okay, so he threatened her to not speak to fans thru the internet, back in May? I wonder why?
Well according to her all of the crew was forbidden to speak as soon as things went bad.
But what does she mean as soon as things went bad? What does she say happened that went bad? Is she talking about June 25th or before?
It does not become clear from her tweets
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Here is the speech from Eddie Jones, Jr., President of Los Angeles Civil Rights Association (LACRA), at the courthouse on April 5.
[youtube:3hupwds3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4SH5AlHSaM&feature[/youtube:3hupwds3]
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Here is the speech from Eddie Jones, Jr., President of Los Angeles Civil Rights Association (LACRA), at the courthouse on April 5.
[youtube:1lofon0m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4SH5AlHSaM&feature[/youtube:1lofon0m]
So there's going to be a march on August 29th in Washington DC. I understand that they want the law changed from involuntary manslaughter to murder. Which law are they referring to? Does this law have to do with drugs? Perhaps shady doctors and record company execs drugging their artists? If this is what Eddie Jones Jr. is talking about then this makes sense.
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Here's more about the March. They are trying to get a million people to march to the White House on August 29.
Front runners for this event:
EDDIE JONES, PRESIDENT LOS ANGELES CIVIL RIGHTS ASSOCIATION
BRAIN OXMAN, JOE JACKSON ATTORNEY
Majestik Magnificent
TONY WILSON, (YOUNG JAMES BROWN)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ONE-MILLI ... ?ref=share (http://www.facebook.com/pages/ONE-MILLION-MJ-MOVEMENT-FOR-JUSTICE-WHITEHOUSE-AND-AROUND-THE-WORLD/381243392296?ref=share)
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Here's more about the March. They are trying to get a million people to march to the White House on August 29.
Front runners for this event:
EDDIE JONES, PRESIDENT LOS ANGELES CIVIL RIGHTS ASSOCIATION
BRAIN OXMAN, JOE JACKSON ATTORNEY
Majestik Magnificent
TONY WILSON, (YOUNG JAMES BROWN)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ONE-MILLI ... ?ref=share (http://www.facebook.com/pages/ONE-MILLION-MJ-MOVEMENT-FOR-JUSTICE-WHITEHOUSE-AND-AROUND-THE-WORLD/381243392296?ref=share)
Why aren't Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton involved? Why would Majestik Magnificent be there? Aren't they friends of the Jackson family? Jesse and Al are the most well known living civil rights activists, so if they were vocal about this cause, people all across the country would pay attention. Why are they silent?
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I find that very interesting why they havent said anything either. Maybe they are being threatened, you never know. Just my opinion. But it is odd that they haven't said much about this at all.
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This is all very interesting. Here is what I hope: I hope that MJ got away. He was very intelligent. If there was an autopsy on someone, perhaps that was a double or doppleganger or whatever. The entire thing doesn't make sense, but what does is that people wanted MJ's money. MJ said himself in interviews how he couldn't say more, it was a conspiracy. I can only assume that was really him speaking. I like to think it was. I hope he just got away in the nick of time and if he resurfaces, it won't be til all these corrupt people go down. Perhaps even if that happens he won't come back. I think what everyone wants is closure really and if he was murdered, then justice.
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What's interesting is that one of the Justice4mj members (Mel) said she contacted Al Sharpton's office yesterday, and that he is VERY concerned by what's going on in Michael's case.
They were reporting that some people were asked by the Jackson camp not to go to the Courthouse on Monday, because it would cause an even greater media/PR circus. They may have asked Sharpton himself not to appear at the Courthouse for that reason.
Debbie Rowe also called them while they were at the Courthouse, supporting them and sending her regrets that she couldn't be there.
(They were talking about this during their livestream yesterday. I posted some on the highlights on this thread: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8286&start=25 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8286&start=25))
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BTW, they (Justice4mj Fan Coalition) plan to do more livestreams in the future. I am following their Twitter to stay informed. http://twitter.com/justice_4mj (http://twitter.com/justice_4mj)
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so as i see this.........some people here have definate doubts that micheal is alive.....verses........people who have definate doubts that micheal is dead.............is it any wonder so many of us are totally confused on a day to day basis.................its driving me nuts...........
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so as i see this.........some people here have definate doubts that micheal is alive.....verses........people who have definate doubts that micheal is dead.............is it any wonder so many of us are totally confused on a day to day basis.................its driving me nuts...........
I think you hit the nail on the head. How can any one of us be absolutely sure of what really happened? That's a little presumptuous and arrogant, IMO. This is why I'm following the facts in this case, and not speculations, theories, or wishful thinking. I am also following the lead of Michael Jackson's parents, and I will continue to lend any support I can to them and Michael's legacy.
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BTW, they (Justice4mj Fan Coalition) plan to do more livestreams in the future. I am following their Twitter to stay informed. http://twitter.com/justice_4mj (http://twitter.com/justice_4mj)
Yes I am following two, it is interesting as you read down the twitter page they also have interesting information which I found I hadnt read before, articles and press stuff.
Which everyside you are on its all good information.
;)