Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: AGA on March 19, 2010, 01:33:51 AM
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
I think you should call the DA office and ask them why .
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Because they have a drivers license!
Did Michael Jackson renew his driver's license?
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does anyone else agree with me here........surely a DNA test would shut everyone up.......but it seems to be like asking for the impossible...and i just wonder what the real reason is.........because there must be a reason........there would have been DNA accesable to SOMEONE .......surely??????.......i just am so amazed that nothing has been said...............xxxx
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Because they have a drivers license!
Did Michael Jackson renew his driver's license?
A drivers license doesn't prove MJ's identity. Body could be someone else.
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If the autopsy report is legit, then they were simply satisfied with the driver's license, which is laughable. I remember I once told a doctor I didn't believe Michael had died and he told me that was very much impossible, because the coroner could never be fooled with a false corpse. I hope this doctor's seen the autopsy report. :lol:
Incomplete dental records. No identification either!
They could've even compared his fingerprints, couldn't they? His fingerprints should still be listed. They did nothing. "Okay, this guy looks like Michael Jackson. Fine."
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If the autopsy report is legit, then they were simply satisfied with the driver's license, which is laughable. I remember I once told a doctor I didn't believe Michael had died and he told me that was very much impossible, because the coroner could never be fooled with a false corpse. I hope this doctor's seen the autopsy report. :lol:
Incomplete dental records. No identification either!
They could've even compared his fingerprints, couldn't they? His fingerprints should still be listed. They did nothing. "Okay, this guy looks like Michael Jackson. Fine."
Actually they did :? he was identified by family AND by fingerprints. This was the answer I got from LA Coroner, who I e-mailed, when the autopsy report got public.
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If the autopsy report is legit, then they were simply satisfied with the driver's license, which is laughable. I remember I once told a doctor I didn't believe Michael had died and he told me that was very much impossible, because the coroner could never be fooled with a false corpse. I hope this doctor's seen the autopsy report. :lol:
Incomplete dental records. No identification either!
They could've even compared his fingerprints, couldn't they? His fingerprints should still be listed. They did nothing. "Okay, this guy looks like Michael Jackson. Fine."
Actually they did :? he was identified by family AND by fingerprints. This was the answer I got from LA Coroner, who I e-mailed, when the autopsy report got public.
LA Coroner could say anything, but it doesn't mean the truth.
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If the autopsy report is legit, then they were simply satisfied with the driver's license, which is laughable. I remember I once told a doctor I didn't believe Michael had died and he told me that was very much impossible, because the coroner could never be fooled with a false corpse. I hope this doctor's seen the autopsy report. :lol:
Incomplete dental records. No identification either!
They could've even compared his fingerprints, couldn't they? His fingerprints should still be listed. They did nothing. "Okay, this guy looks like Michael Jackson. Fine."
Actually they did :? he was identified by family AND by fingerprints. This was the answer I got from LA Coroner, who I e-mailed, when the autopsy report got public.
LA Coroner could say anything, but it doesn't mean the truth.
No, of cause not ;) This was just the answer I got.
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If the autopsy report is legit, then they were simply satisfied with the driver's license, which is laughable. I remember I once told a doctor I didn't believe Michael had died and he told me that was very much impossible, because the coroner could never be fooled with a false corpse. I hope this doctor's seen the autopsy report. :lol:
Incomplete dental records. No identification either!
They could've even compared his fingerprints, couldn't they? His fingerprints should still be listed. They did nothing. "Okay, this guy looks like Michael Jackson. Fine."
Actually they did :? he was identified by family AND by fingerprints. This was the answer I got from LA Coroner, who I e-mailed, when the autopsy report got public.
Wouldn't that have to be mentioned in the report? It states nothing but that he was identified through his driver's license. What exactly did that person write to you? Can you show us?
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Sure :
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Winter
To: Tina Kær
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: Autopsy report.
Tina,
This is the real report. According to our information initially received we were told that Dr. Murray took him out of the bed at once. It wasn’t until later that the 911 tape came to light. Michael was identified by both his drivers license, fingerprints and by family.
Ed Winter, Asst. Chief
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From: tina kær
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:07 AM
To: Edward Winter
Subject: Autopsy report.
Dear Mr. Winter.
Yesterday a autopsy report was on TMZ homepage, apparently the one of Michael Jackson. If you dont mind , I have some qestions, aboutwhat it says.
Is this report the " real " one ? There has been several on the internet.
In this new report stands that Dr. Murray took Michael Jackson out of the bed at once, when he saw that Michael Jackson was not breathing. And then starts to do cpr. But in the public 911 call, the one who speaks to the paramedics says, that Murray is doing cpr on the bed. What is the right version ? It is very frustrating with all these different storys.....
And another qestion : Do you really identify people from their driwers license ? I mean, the picture could be old ?
I'm sure you gets bombarded with e-mails, but I do hope you will be so kind to answer me. Thank you so much.
With best regards Tina Kær.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Winter
To: tina Kær
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: Thanks.
Tina,
All of our reports are public unless there is a Security Hold placed on the case. Once charges are filed the case is a matter of public record.
Ed Winter, Asst. Chief
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From: tina kær
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:43 PM
To: Edward Winter
Subject: Thanks.
Thank you very much for your answers yesterday, that cleared up something. I hope you dont mind me asking now, why this autopsy report was made public ? And how and why TMZ got their hands on it ?
Thank you.
Tina Kær.
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Thank you very much! :)
This is really funny. It says that he was identified by comparison to his driver's license twice, first under "ID Method", then later again. My question would be not only why isn't the fingerprint comparison mentioned in the report, but why would they do something as ridiculous as checking his driver's license if they later compared the fingerprints anyway? After he had already been "positively identified"? Why check the driver's license at all?
I bet Mr. Ed Winter just felt a little dumbstruck when you asked him about their methods, and he came up with his little fingerprint story.
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However, I just noticed, under "Fingerprints", it says "Yes". I never thought much of it, it doesn't say they compared the fingerprints, just that there were fingerprints available. Or would it mean they compared them, too? Why not mention this under "identification", though? :roll:
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However, I just noticed, under "Fingerprints", it says "Yes". I never thought much of it, it doesn't say they compared the fingerprints, just that there were fingerprints available. Or would it mean they compared them, too? Why not mention this under "identification", though? :roll:
yes, i dont know why, it's really strange. I'm also not sure, if we can trust the Coroner, cause the answers came really fast, and that happent to others who also e-mailed them. I really thought they had better to do, than sit and answer e-mails.... Maybe they were prepaired to get a bunch of mails, and then created some pre- writtten answers, so they just had to write peoples names ? I think it's weird.
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It truly seem contradictory to my logical brain that a statement would be issued that a drivers license was used to identify MJ when a family member usually does, and they were all present. Why even bring up drivers license then???? I am not convinced by the addition of this detail....only confused.
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It truly seem contradictory to my logical brain that a statement would be issued that a drivers license was used to identify MJ when a family member usually does, and they were all present. Why even bring up drivers license then???? I am not convinced by the addition of this detail....only confused.
Exactly. And the comparison of the fingerprints would make the driver's license even more useless.
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
I think you should call the DA office and ask them why .
YEAH!!! Here, here!
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
Yeah it really makes me wonder, too, that the body was only identified by his license....no DNA test?? HELLO?? They said he looked like a sickly, old frail man, so he was just identified by his license? Oh SHAMONE! ;)
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
Yeah it really makes me wonder, too, that the body was only identified by his license....no DNA test?? HELLO?? They said he looked like a sickly, old frail man, so he was just identified by his license? Oh SHAMONE! ;)
he wasnt just identified by his drivers license but by his sister. And then later even his mum saw him! When sbdy dies at his home, in his bed, with family members saying it s him, it s usually enough. Never ever they do a dna test on sbdy that isnt completely disfigured. So if u havesomebody who died in your entourage and a dna test was made, well i m really curious to hear why. Cause my experience of that says that never happens
I guess they just used the drivers licence as an ID and not to compare the pics. U need an ID in every important step of life, why not when u die? That doesnt look strange to me...and it s nowhere stated that ID was on Michael. maybe the family brought it afterwards.
If hoax: i m sure they wrote what is usually written on autopsy reports about identification
If dead: procedure seems completely normal there. Come on, it s MJ (the most recognizable man on earth) dying in his bed, in his home, with the whole family saying it s him and fingerprints matching..........................why do a expensive dna testing?
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
Yeah it really makes me wonder, too, that the body was only identified by his license....no DNA test?? HELLO?? They said he looked like a sickly, old frail man, so he was just identified by his license? Oh SHAMONE! ;)
he wasnt just identified by his drivers license but by his sister. And then later even his mum saw him! When sbdy dies at his home, in his bed, with family members saying it s him, it s usually enough. Never ever they do a dna test on sbdy that isnt completely disfigured. So if u havesomebody who died in your entourage and a dna test was made, well i m really curious to hear why. Cause my experience of that says that never happens
I guess they just used the drivers licence as an ID and not to compare the pics. U need an ID in every important step of life, why not when u die? That doesnt look strange to me...and it s nowhere stated that ID was on Michael. maybe the family brought it afterwards.
If hoax: i m sure they wrote what is usually written on autopsy reports about identification
If dead: procedure seems completely normal there. Come on, it s MJ (the most recognizable man on earth) dying in his bed, in his home, with the whole family saying it s him and fingerprints matching..........................why do a expensive dna testing?
Please read the autopsy report. He was ONLY IDENTIFIED BY HIS DL. It DOES NOT describe any fingerprints being taken nor compared with any that are on file. The report also DOES NOT indicate that he was identified visually by any family, friends or business associates at all. I have read it extensively for the creation of a video. I suggest you do the same.
Here is the link to the 51 pages of this masterpiece of fiction:
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_mj_case_report_wm.pdf
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Hi,
I just wonder why there's no DNA test of MJ after death? Why there is no confirmed or denied MJ's identity after death.? Even his father is not sure about MJ identity in TII.
So what do you think?
Yeah it really makes me wonder, too, that the body was only identified by his license....no DNA test?? HELLO?? They said he looked like a sickly, old frail man, so he was just identified by his license? Oh SHAMONE! ;)
he wasnt just identified by his drivers license but by his sister. And then later even his mum saw him! When sbdy dies at his home, in his bed, with family members saying it s him, it s usually enough. Never ever they do a dna test on sbdy that isnt completely disfigured. So if u havesomebody who died in your entourage and a dna test was made, well i m really curious to hear why. Cause my experience of that says that never happens
I guess they just used the drivers licence as an ID and not to compare the pics. U need an ID in every important step of life, why not when u die? That doesnt look strange to me...and it s nowhere stated that ID was on Michael. maybe the family brought it afterwards.
If hoax: i m sure they wrote what is usually written on autopsy reports about identification
If dead: procedure seems completely normal there. Come on, it s MJ (the most recognizable man on earth) dying in his bed, in his home, with the whole family saying it s him and fingerprints matching..........................why do a expensive dna testing?
Please read the autopsy report. He was ONLY IDENTIFIED BY HIS DL. It DOES NOT describe any fingerprints being taken nor compared with any that are on file. The report also DOES NOT indicate that he was identified visually by any family, friends or business associates at all. I have read it extensively for the creation of a video. I suggest you do the same.
Here is the link to the 51 pages of this masterpiece of fiction:
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_mj_case_report_wm.pdf
i read it 3 times, thx dear
on the death certificate it states Latoya "identified" him. I didnt say it was in the report. When somebody dies, a family member saying this is the right person, is enough. All that comes after that (fingerprints, ID, teeth) is additional and stated in the report. But then i dont remember where it s indicated that the fingerprints were taken. I should look for that again tho i remember reading it. And others said they saw it too....so