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Title: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: wiZZkIDD on March 17, 2010, 10:22:07 PM
OK I HAVE TWO THINGS THATS CONCERNING ME AND HERE IT GOES (1.) I BELIEVE WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT NOONE HAD A PRIOR NOTICE THAT MICHAEL WOULD BE ANNOUNCING THE TOURS RIGHT? WELL HERES THE THING ARE THERE ANY PICTURES OF MICHAEL ARRIVING IN ENGLAND? I FOUND ONE AND NO OTHERS WITH THEM ARRIVING AND THEN LEAVING THE AIRPORT ETC. WHICH IS VERY ODD I MIGHT I ADD (2.) ARE THERE ANY PICTURES OF MICHAEL AND HIS KIDS ARRIVING IN LOS ANGELES AIRPORT? OR BETTER YET IS THERE ANY PICS OF HIM LEAVING HIS HOTEL IN ENGLAND TO ARRIVE TO THE AIRPORT? MY ANSWER NO.  :shock: SO HERES THE WEIRD THING THAT PUZZLES..I HAVE ONE PICTURE OF WHAT LOOKS OR SEEMS TO BE MICHAEL AND PARIS GETTING OFF THE AIRPLANE IN ENGLAND AND NO OTHERS. AND NOW THERE ARE NOOO PICS OF MICHAEL EVEN ARRIVING IN THE US OR LOS ANGELES AIRPORT.  SO MY QUESTION IS THIS HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE WITH ALL THE PAPARAZZI AND NO PICTURES? COULD IT BE AN ILLUSION AS IN PLACING CERTAIN DOUBLES IN ENGLAND OR LOS ANGELES OR VIS VERSA..OR COULD IT BE MICHAEL IN ENGLAND AND A DOUBLE IN ANOTHER?
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: hope on March 17, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
Yes, I find it odd that there are not more pics as well.  :?
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: RK on March 17, 2010, 11:14:04 PM
Yes just another incident to add to our  "this seems weird pile".  I have vascilated between is  or isn't  MJ O2 guy for so long, but the way his  hair falls forward hiding as much of the facial features as possible makes me go "um, trying to hide something here?"  weird and intriguing. I want answers so bad.
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Christiana on March 18, 2010, 12:05:19 AM
This is Michael and the kids checking out of the Lanesborough Hotel in London on March 8:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/ ... ng/001.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/leaving/001.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/ ... ng/003.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/leaving/003.jpg)

To me, it's not odd that there are no pics of MJ arriving in LA. He was not photographed every single time he arrived at an airport. Yeah, he got photo'd at a lot of them, but not all. I've never bought the doubles in England or doubles in the hoax theories myself. No offense to anyone who does at all. Just my opinion here.

I also don't necessarily agree that no one knew he'd be making his announcement in London. There was plenty of talk in the press and online about MJ's upcoming tour before he made the official announcement. It wasn't a secret once the deal with AEG was made. His announcement made it official, but there was already chatter about it pre-March 4 when he made the press conference. Obviously they knew about it in London, because all the fans showed up for the press conference, so there was publicity for it. They advertised it on ITV in London--a commercial that reportedly cost £1 million to air. And, just as a U.S. example, LA Late News was talking about the then-upcoming press conference, in February. And they announced on their website plans to televise the PC live:

http://news.lalate.com/2009/03/04/micha ... erence-o2/ (http://news.lalate.com/2009/03/04/michael-jackson-press-conference-o2/)

The concert was known about and talked about before MJ announced it in March at the O2.
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 18, 2010, 09:52:55 AM
I too find it very strange there are not more photos...it's like these ones were supposed to be taken and that is it!
Anyhow he looks great though in those pics!!!
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: the arabian nights on March 18, 2010, 09:57:19 AM
i really dont think that there was much media interest in mike - remember in march 2009 - it was all jade goody

he was not really in the press except after the 02
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 18, 2010, 03:15:30 PM
@Christiana

I think he looks alot different in these pics then in the O2 arena. :?
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: reyferrari on March 18, 2010, 11:25:13 PM
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
@Christiana

I think he looks alot different in these pics then in the O2 arena. :?

i agree!!..definitly not the same michael :?
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: darkchild on March 18, 2010, 11:58:57 PM
Quote from: "Christiana"
This is Michael and the kids checking out of the Lanesborough Hotel in London on March 8:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/ ... ng/001.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/leaving/001.jpg)
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/ ... ng/003.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/leaving/003.jpg)

To me, it's not odd that there are no pics of MJ arriving in LA. He was not photographed every single time he arrived at an airport. Yeah, he got photo'd at a lot of them, but not all. I've never bought the doubles in England or doubles in the hoax theories myself. No offense to anyone who does at all. Just my opinion here.

I also don't necessarily agree that no one knew he'd be making his announcement in London. There was plenty of talk in the press and online about MJ's upcoming tour before he made the official announcement. It wasn't a secret once the deal with AEG was made. His announcement made it official, but there was already chatter about it pre-March 4 when he made the press conference. Obviously they knew about it in London, because all the fans showed up for the press conference, so there was publicity for it. They advertised it on ITV in London--a commercial that reportedly cost £1 million to air. And, just as a U.S. example, LA Late News was talking about the then-upcoming press conference, in February. And they announced on their website plans to televise the PC live:

http://news.lalate.com/2009/03/04/micha ... erence-o2/ (http://news.lalate.com/2009/03/04/michael-jackson-press-conference-o2/)

The concert was known about and talked about before MJ announced it in March at the O2.


@ Christiana
This picture that you posted here is brillant!
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/ ... ng/001.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/london2009/leaving/001.jpg)

What struck me was that MJ's baby hair is visible in your photo. Here is a piccy that I have showing MJ's baby hair as seen in your photo.

[attachment=1:hbxwl9l2]jacksondies625.jpg[/attachment:hbxwl9l2]
 

MJ's face looks much fuller in your photo then the way he looked at the O2 conference. Here is a piccy I have of MJ from the O2 conference.
[attachment=0:hbxwl9l2]mj02-3.jpg[/attachment:hbxwl9l2]

That is just my two cents for what it is worth.
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Inhalib on March 19, 2010, 01:52:54 AM
I personaly don't believe is Michael in the O2 press conference, and yes.. there are some differences with the O2 guy.
I do believe that there is odd there are no picture of him leaving London, if he wasn't on the spotlight before the announcement, he surelly was after it!! we can see a lot of fans and they are going nuts when "Michael" made the conference.. so is pretty obvious for me that paparazzi should follow him everywhere he goes.. even the airport. So yes, it's odd.

Lots of L.O.V.E!
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 19, 2010, 02:03:22 AM
i sort of think this pic plays a big part in the hoax. ''plain exit''  ;)  and the setlist. like, he peformed the songs in This is it so after he is done he does the ''Plane exit''. Remember, jermaine said ''michael was long gone before he went to the Airport''
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Tink.I.Am on March 19, 2010, 02:17:54 AM
here are some pics from the same week. MJ, paris and Blanket went to watch Oliwer Twist at Drury Lane in Central London. Just to pint out that he was there
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Inhalib on March 19, 2010, 02:43:04 AM
LOL plane exit?' so much coincidence. Of course we have seen "MJ" (IMO it was a double) ending a show flying away, and maybe this time a plane will come down to the scenario to pick him out... but.. is it strange anyways :P

Now.. with all those papparazi.. no one followed him to the airport?? there where no papparazzi waiting in every door at the hotel?.. hmmmmmmmm

Lots of L.O.V.E!
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 19, 2010, 11:42:12 AM
He looks so great in those last pics!!!
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: mumof3 on March 19, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
I read that he used allfieds landing strip so maybe that is why it was quiet for him
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 19, 2010, 12:28:26 PM
Quote from: "MJmakesmespeechless"
He looks so great in those last pics!!!
he does. :D
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: smiles on March 19, 2010, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: "wiZZkIDD"
OK I HAVE TWO THINGS THATS CONCERNING ME AND HERE IT GOES (1.) I BELIEVE WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT NOONE HAD A PRIOR NOTICE THAT MICHAEL WOULD BE ANNOUNCING THE TOURS RIGHT? WELL HERES THE THING ARE THERE ANY PICTURES OF MICHAEL ARRIVING IN ENGLAND? I FOUND ONE AND NO OTHERS WITH THEM ARRIVING AND THEN LEAVING THE AIRPORT ETC. WHICH IS VERY ODD I MIGHT I ADD (2.) ARE THERE ANY PICTURES OF MICHAEL AND HIS KIDS ARRIVING IN LOS ANGELES AIRPORT? OR BETTER YET IS THERE ANY PICS OF HIM LEAVING HIS HOTEL IN ENGLAND TO ARRIVE TO THE AIRPORT? MY ANSWER NO.  :shock: SO HERES THE WEIRD THING THAT PUZZLES..I HAVE ONE PICTURE OF WHAT LOOKS OR SEEMS TO BE MICHAEL AND PARIS GETTING OFF THE AIRPLANE IN ENGLAND AND NO OTHERS. AND NOW THERE ARE NOOO PICS OF MICHAEL EVEN ARRIVING IN THE US OR LOS ANGELES AIRPORT.  SO MY QUESTION IS THIS HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE WITH ALL THE PAPARAZZI AND NO PICTURES? COULD IT BE AN ILLUSION AS IN PLACING CERTAIN DOUBLES IN ENGLAND OR LOS ANGELES OR VIS VERSA..OR COULD IT BE MICHAEL IN ENGLAND AND A DOUBLE IN ANOTHER?


well this pic was taken when Mj arrived in Ireland... on you tube there is a video somewhere...
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 19, 2010, 12:37:47 PM
[youtube:3pbn6lmv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhFekGAcKro[/youtube:3pbn6lmv] MJ and his kids at cork airport 2006. wonder why there weren't video of him arriving/or leaving london for ''o2 press conference. only a Pic? *edit* another video of MJ with his kids at London/Heatherow airport:[youtube:3pbn6lmv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuMajB11Me8[/youtube:3pbn6lmv] [/b]
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: the arabian nights on March 20, 2010, 11:39:11 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
i sort of think this pic plays a big part in the hoax. ''plain exit''  ;)  and the setlist. like, he peformed the songs in This is it so after he is done he does the ''Plane exit''. Remember, jermaine said ''michael was long gone before he went to the Airport''

the pic with the guy writing what is this about?
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on March 20, 2010, 11:48:55 AM
You 02 non believers need to open your eyes and look at this

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=7503 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=7503)
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: the arabian nights on March 20, 2010, 12:07:16 PM
it looked like he had a low profile entry
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: CC on March 20, 2010, 01:48:01 PM
WHY THE KIDS AGAIN WITH MASKS ON THEIR FACE?
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Zen on March 21, 2010, 12:19:01 AM
That Tohme has his grip around Michael's waist and Michael is trying
to shake him off!
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 21, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
i sort of think this pic plays a big part in the hoax. ''plain exit''  ;)  and the setlist. like, he peformed the songs in This is it so after he is done he does the ''Plane exit''. Remember, jermaine said ''michael was long gone before he went to the Airport''

the pic with the guy writing what is this about?
the setlist for the this is it ''concerts''
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: MorningGlow on March 21, 2010, 02:40:33 PM
Just wanted to bring to everyone's attention but, perhaps you may have already noticed that within the last photo published by MJJ Pictures.com, within this thread (above),  there is Dr Thome Thome holding onto the sleeve arm of Michael. He looks evil. I have never seen him in any photos taken, smiling.

Also, something just came to my mind. Perhaps, the Dr that was with MJ according to the conversation between the paramedic and the caller was Dr Thome Thome instead of Dr Conrad Murray. It was reported that an anonymous phone call was made to a radio station that someone had seen Dr Conrad Murray running from the house. Perhaps, his scheduling was known and whomever made that phone call, THOUGHT, it was Dr Conrad Murray when in reality it was Dr Thome Thome. Thus, setting up Dr Conrad Murray who maybe was late that day, making him the "fall guy".

Still, as it has been mentioned within a thread, I don't understand if Dr Thome Thome is the "bad guy", WHY ON EARTH, would Jermaine allow his presence with him at UCLA.
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: techdiva on March 21, 2010, 06:49:30 PM
I'd noticed in the photo of MJ leaving the Laneborough Hotel after the press conference. He is wearing the same shirt he wore the night he went to the Oliver Twist play.
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 21, 2010, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: "techdiva"
I'd noticed in the photo of MJ leaving the Laneborough Hotel after the press conference. He is wearing the same shirt he wore the night he went to the Oliver Twist play.
same shirt in 2 days? hmmm.. :geek: is it me or do the clefts in both of these photos look different:http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=4800http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=4879 double???
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: wiZZkIDD on March 22, 2010, 01:21:52 AM
yeap i noticed that the clefts are different  :lol: smells like a double to me but as always the feedback will be either because of the angles or lighting lol that makes it look different :roll:  
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 22, 2010, 01:33:47 AM
Quote from: "wiZZkIDD"
yeap i noticed that the clefts are different  :lol: smells like a double to me but as always the feedback will be either because of the angles or lighting lol that makes it look different :roll:  
i think you and i can agree... there were doubles used in those 2 days ;)
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: wiZZkIDD on March 22, 2010, 02:02:58 AM
theres this video i watched a while back when michael did the Entertainment Tonight interview and it was an extended video probaly about 10 mins i think and i noticed how one day when they interviewed michael i already raised an eyebrow thinking it wasnt him when he was with will.i.am and the next day showed him looking different again with a bigger wig with longer hair and seem to be much taller than usual :shock:  and i wish i could find that video to show all the nay sayers that michael is also one of the best illusionists ever lol :D
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: wiZZkIDD on March 22, 2010, 02:14:32 AM
i know michael has been using doubles for years now..ill even go out on a limb and say he even used them at the 2005 trial  ;) a very detailed video should be made about this one that will surprise people or make those that know in the back of their minds that there is definitely more to michael that meets the eye and what gets me confused is why people are afraid to see it..is because they think they would feel cheated or betrayed that what they thought was michael really wasnt? Michael Jackson till this day is still a mystery to us not as a musician but as the man behind the scenes..when all the lights and cameras is off..and if hes capable of pulling off his death as hard as it can be for either one of us to do and we are talking bout michael jackson! if he fooled most people that he's dead..you think its not possible that hes been fooling alot of people including fans with his best disguise and that diguise is not dressing up as a woman or old man but as HIMSELF  thats the greatest illusion because no body will no who is the real michael and who is the double
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: techdiva on March 22, 2010, 09:20:24 AM
Quote from: "wiZZkIDD"
theres this video i watched a while back when michael did the Entertainment Tonight interview and it was an extended video probaly about 10 mins i think and i noticed how one day when they interviewed michael i already raised an eyebrow thinking it wasnt him when he was with will.i.am and the next day showed him looking different again with a bigger wig with longer hair and seem to be much taller than usual :shock:  and i wish i could find that video to show all the nay sayers that michael is also one of the best illusionists ever lol :D
Here's the interview that Billy Bush did with MJ. It was the last interview he did with MJ.
[youtube:3lzngyae]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMwk3T9YQY[/youtube:3lzngyae]
[youtube:3lzngyae]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMwk3T9YQY[/youtube:3lzngyae]
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: techdiva on March 22, 2010, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: "wiZZkIDD"
i know michael has been using doubles for years now..ill even go out on a limb and say he even used them at the 2005 trial  ;) a very detailed video should be made about this one that will surprise people or make those that know in the back of their minds that there is definitely more to michael that meets the eye and what gets me confused is why people are afraid to see it..is because they think they would feel cheated or betrayed that what they thought was michael really wasnt? Michael Jackson till this day is still a mystery to us not as a musician but as the man behind the scenes..when all the lights and cameras is off..and if hes capable of pulling off his death as hard as it can be for either one of us to do and we are talking bout michael jackson! if he fooled most people that he's dead..you think its not possible that hes been fooling alot of people including fans with his best disguise and that diguise is not dressing up as a woman or old man but as HIMSELF  thats the greatest illusion because no body will no who is the real michael and who is the double
Souza and Mo have photos comparing MJ and a double on the blog. They have a theory that MJ has a twin, but I think this person had extensive plastic surgery to become MJ. Hey he got the money to pull it off. Just like the day he went to court in his PJ's I don't that was MJ. I think that was the double. Because according the autopsy that person had back problems. You are right, ppl think they MJ, but they don't know the REAL MJ.
Title: Re: airplane mystery before and after O2 announcement
Post by: Jacksonology on March 22, 2010, 01:10:20 PM
Quote from: "techdiva"
I'd noticed in the photo of MJ leaving the Laneborough Hotel after the press conference. He is wearing the same shirt he wore the night he went to the Oliver Twist play.
there are totally different clefts. AND NO clefts don't change overnight  ;) this man's cleft is more lower under his chin and not as deep as MJ's. MJ has a deep cleft. not a Greasy little line  :lol:
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