Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Theories => Michael's Reasons to hoax his death => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on March 15, 2010, 07:24:11 PM

Title: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 15, 2010, 07:24:11 PM
Global Warming is a hoax!

[youtube:12vyhciv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idEIRiuM31w[/youtube:12vyhciv]
[youtube:12vyhciv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66gf7DQuKfE[/youtube:12vyhciv]
[youtube:12vyhciv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dElAo69CKn0[/youtube:12vyhciv]
[youtube:12vyhciv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvCeUV0k8yo[/youtube:12vyhciv]

YouTube is a little slow these days, so if it says 'private', check again in 30 minutes.

Greetz,
Souza & Mo
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: elenamjgirl on March 15, 2010, 07:41:41 PM
I really need to THANK U from the bottom of my heart both of you girls: Souza and Mo..you have been doing for soo long, you still do and hopefully you will continue doing such a great job! You girls are unstoppable...I'm sooo proud to be part of this group, to be a member of this site..you have helped me open my eyes and face the truth...i have become much more consious about important issues (it will take soo much space and time to refer in here--u know). I am so grateful for the hours you devote each single day of your lives working on such videos and on this incredible website.. i'm not kissing your ass--i would never support any person or any idea against my principles--you are truly amazing and
--I'M A PROUD MEMBER OF SOUZA'S AND MO'S SITE!!!--
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH...
My prayers go always with you..I know you don't need it (you manage perfectly) but in any case you may need help or support i'll be glad to offer both of them..DANK U!!  ;)  
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 07:59:47 PM
Souza, take care of this:
When you give people reasons why global warming is a hoax, and that actually we´re cooling because of natural cicles, they skip the natural part and change their statement to:
"Well, let´s not say global warming, but climate change!"
After the winter we´re having, I think this may be the next argument of the elites... man caused global cooling... in fact in the 80´s they tryed the same with a cooling threat.

So let´s say Climate change caused by man is a hoax.

Obama declared CO2 a dangerous polutant?
I fart on him  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Come here to charge a fine if you want.
Can I breathe out now?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 08:07:41 PM
The Great Global Warming Swindle, part 1 of 9

[youtube:2v728bb3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqqWJugXzs[/youtube:2v728bb3]

Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for Global Warming fraud / John Coleman

[youtube:2v728bb3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ[/youtube:2v728bb3]

Climategate: The mails that debunked it all

http://www.climate-gate.org/
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: goodgirl on March 15, 2010, 10:47:44 PM
wow ! my list of earthquakes in part 4c
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Emily Hutjes on March 16, 2010, 04:56:31 AM
You know what Mother Earth really pisses off? Testing Nuclear 'heartless boy toys' ! Why do so many nations want to have nukes for? If they throw one, they'll get 3 back and the ones pushing the buttons have to hide in their fall out shelters where the sun never shines for 25 years, coming out after 25 years either dead or too old to rebuild their world.All our men are going to wars all over this world and if you ask them whether they hate the people of that country, they say:"NO". Every world leader that decides to send our boys and men to such wars, or starts such wars, should get dressed into an army uniform and be put in the very front line . Too bad for them, they authorized it, are responsible and should catch the first bullet from their so called 'enemies'. Too bad, but I think this is only a fair suggestion.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Michael 1987 on March 16, 2010, 11:27:40 AM
Yeah, I knew most of this stuff already. So im just waiting  :P
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 16, 2010, 03:14:02 PM
The world already only powerful may remove us the life. So many excesses, genocides, massacres, and brazen and cynical, abuse we will lose the fear of death and when it is removed we fear will lose their power and destroyed quickly. It is better to control fear and death once dry throughout a life of slavery with flashes of welfare. Life be true future or reincarnation, and create a mayaría of the world population, perhaps up to die with dignity reviviremos in happiness and love!. These powerful have developed various mechanisms of domination in the past, where up to religion have used it to knead power and fortune as what we saw with the Crusades and the Inquisition. Now use the slogan of the antiterrorism cross becoming more terrorists in the world, spreading fear and destruction in its wake as the former barbarians or extinct and forgotten Empire.

The whole world accused the consequences of the struggle for power with the extinction of many species, global warming and the spread of multiple diseases and epidemics. The accumulation of wealth conquers new mechanisms mean more profits but do not know yet their effects developing own humankind and current species production; such is the case of GM crops where modified genetic chain and cromosomática species. Will give human mutations in the future, what is multiply resistentemente plants or animals by changing the parameters of environmental harmony?.? :geek:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: goodgirl on March 16, 2010, 06:34:17 PM
please try to watch it till the end it,s all about exposing truth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AvSQuqQb5c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AvSQuqQb5c)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 16, 2010, 06:49:58 PM
This one is really funny  :lol:

[youtube:35t1daqf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNYb50s0fTs[/youtube:35t1daqf]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 16, 2010, 07:59:26 PM
goodgirl good video, can these politicians sleep in peace?, .. I get Gags :evil:


                                                                                                           

somekindofsign, this guy is really very funny, you have to ask him why the earthquake that affected la Española, affects the part of Haiti, the Dominican Republic and nothing happened. This is how these jokes work, and trying to ridicule those who are not with them. :evil:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: goodgirl on March 16, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
@ Paula-c , thank you I was worried that maybe people don,t like it cuz reality hurts and it is very painful reality   :cry:
and i,m on a mission ( michael,s mission ) to expose them who don,t really care about all of us
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 16, 2010, 09:24:07 PM
goodgirl, it must publish a time and again, those which are necessary for people to take conscience of the people who rules this world,.. ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: tina420shadows on March 17, 2010, 01:04:14 PM
I just got done watching all the videos with my boyfriend, and I just wanted to say:

GREAT VIDEO SERIES, GIRLS! WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU! Please, everyone, put this on your FaceBook, MySpace, Twitter, tell your friends, show your friends, talk about it with your family at dinner, read and pass books around on all this

EVERY DAY IS A NEW DAY TO CHANGE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, there CAN be Heaven and Peace on Earth... we have angels, guides, extraterrestial brothers and sisters, animals sent here to balance the energy and be there for us, and we have each other. Let's continue to strive as an ARMY OF LOVE and do not live in fear!!!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: LethalChaos117 on March 17, 2010, 01:05:24 PM
Keep blowing the trumpet Michael. It is all happening just as prophesied, This is it, time for freedom and God to deliver his children. False Prophets are crying for doom, but ALL the children are eying the possibilities. We know and see the better way. Peace will reign soon!!! Knowledge is increasing and people are coming together but its time to step it up into high gear. Forget the gear, there is no limit to the possibilities if ALL of our eyes are open. All evil will be destroyed and all tears will be wiped away. It is take off time!!! Peace
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Infinitylady on March 22, 2010, 10:22:16 AM
Quote
Quote
[by ~Souza~ » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:24 am

Global Warming is a hoax!/b]

BINGO!!!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: SEHF on March 22, 2010, 11:42:05 AM
How is this MJ's message again?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 22, 2010, 03:32:16 PM
Quote from: "SEHF"
How is this MJ's message again?
:?  :roll:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: tabloidburn on March 22, 2010, 08:03:23 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "SEHF"
How is this MJ's message again?
:?  :roll:

 :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: SEHF on March 22, 2010, 11:33:28 PM
 I'll re-watch them all one after a another now that I have a day off.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: mjjveritas on March 23, 2010, 08:10:24 AM
MJ does seem to have an awful lot of messages. Would it not be easier to list the things that are not his message?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: *Mo* on March 23, 2010, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
MJ does seem to have an awful lot of messages. Would it not be easier to list the things that are not his message?

Apparently it's all very clear to you mjjveritas, so be my guest and make that list...  I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: mjjveritas on March 23, 2010, 09:35:57 AM
*Mo*, Here goes, There has been no mention of the robotic spacecraft Cassini-Huygens mission to Saturn and Titan. Waste of money or important for all Mankind? Was it the correct decision for Britain to give Hong Kong back to China? And is Cheryl Cole "Hot or Not? All important in their own way but not a word.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 23, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
The Global warming freud in One Part,
How about all kind of deseases, crazy cow deseases, pig deseases
birdflue deseases, even sheeps and goat deseases, we never heard of them
befor 1999, after 2000 they started with killing thousends of cows
chickens, over here goats and sheeps, farmers lost the whole population
and have to start all over again, vet injected cows and goats and sheeps
in the millions, and we eat that meat, so..when we get sick"not even one
anti biotic will help us anymore. How about aids, suddenly this deseases
came in the world..but How??????

I can only tell you one thing, in those labs they created vaccins
but also the deseases, cause they have to now..if a vaccin works right?
We could start, to creat our own fruit garden again, and vetcibles en patatos
we can get milk from a farmer and cooked the milk first. We also can keep
chickens in our back yard again. Learn about plants, and healing of those plants.
We can say all together....LETS GO FOR IT..cause when Michael said this you
all sure will do it RIGHT!! Well I am the first, to start a own garden behind
my house. And get milk from the farmer, etc..and stop to by pill's or take
vaccins. Why do we take this???!!!!!!!! We could also trow over those antentenne's

Michael..take the whole world tour, and every where you go we tell the story.
THE REAL DESEASES CAME FROM LAB'S AND NOTHING MORE!!!!

WHO IS BEHIND THIS, AND ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!

Michael please start a real organisation, there is enough food
on this world, nobody have to suffer or die from honger.
When we share, its just like JESUS show us..5 fish and 5 bread.
He is the one who provide us, and the children we have to take
care of, and the old one's and the sick, and the poor and helpless.

YOUR MESSAGE IS CLEAR AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS!!!

WHEN DO WE START????!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 23, 2010, 01:53:59 PM
Keep in mind also,

1 - It is causing the loss of wildlife animal more large, from periods of glaciation. Species decrease has been an absolutely brutal rate in a matter of decades.

2 °-Are deforested tropical forests that regulate the cycles of rains in much of the planet, apart from being as longtime CO2 and other greenhouse gas sinks

3 °-Our this energy consumption striking out the atmosphere during few decades, a staggering amount of fossil stored underground for millions of years

4 °-They are producing harmful substances that rociamos fields, cities animals and ourselves. :geek:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 23, 2010, 04:50:09 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Keep in mind also,

1 - It is causing the loss of wildlife animal more large, from periods of glaciation. Species decrease has been an absolutely brutal rate in a matter of decades.

2 °-Are deforested tropical forests that regulate the cycles of rains in much of the planet, apart from being as longtime CO2 and other greenhouse gas sinks

3 °-Our this energy consumption striking out the atmosphere during few decades, a staggering amount of fossil stored underground for millions of years

4 °-They are producing harmful substances that rociamos fields, cities animals and ourselves. :geek:

First of all let me make this clear that CO2 is a product the trees need
In fact the trees grows faster with CO2, so that is a lie OF those sientist
spread around the world. And when we plant trees, then with CO2 the forrest
grows faster and back again. Animals like Chimps and tijgers..all the wild
live got a chance have a place of there own again. But the rich man want
the ground to build houses and large villa's{cities}
So CO2 don't creat a greenhouse effect, but when we plant small tree's
again the forrest grow faster then we ever can think of..and the richman
can forget all of his building plans.So we must plant tree's again and the whole
world must help with this. Then in 4 years we creat a new forrest all around
the world. Wich Michael has say the thing right..4 YEARS WE NEED TO SAVE
THIS WORLD.And tree's also provide clean air, tree's do that by there leave's
We don't need needle tree's but leave tree's. I use to work at the lab and study
at scool the nature and the way they grown. Also how they make deseases to test
the vaccins. That's why I said those deseases came from a large labatory.
Then I can say for sure, the goverment's  has the hand in this..and then I have
again one answer: to decrease population in the world..only because of there
greed. and money..Michael sing the song right: THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!
NEVER FORGET: CO2 MADE THE TREE'S GROW FASTER AND THE FORREST TO!!

Harmful Substances,,WILL BE DECREASED BY LARGE TREE'S AND GROWING PLANTS
BECAUSE OF CO2.
[youtube:1rg67d7n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ59cd5VlO4[/youtube:1rg67d7n]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 23, 2010, 04:53:44 PM
Demonization of the CO2...
Zrrrrrrrr  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: whateverhappens on March 23, 2010, 05:00:49 PM
Quote from: "Angel Wynton"
Quote from: "paula-c"
Keep in mind also,

1 - It is causing the loss of wildlife animal more large, from periods of glaciation. Species decrease has been an absolutely brutal rate in a matter of decades.

2 °-Are deforested tropical forests that regulate the cycles of rains in much of the planet, apart from being as longtime CO2 and other greenhouse gas sinks

3 °-Our this energy consumption striking out the atmosphere during few decades, a staggering amount of fossil stored underground for millions of years

4 °-They are producing harmful substances that rociamos fields, cities animals and ourselves. :geek:

First of all let me make this clear that CO2 is a product the trees need
In fact the trees grows faster with CO2, so that is a lie OF those sientist
spread around the world. And when we plant trees, then with CO2 the forrest
grows faster and back again. Animals like Chimps and tijgers..all the wild
live got a chance have a place of there own again. But the rich man want
the ground to build houses and large villa's{cities}
So CO2 don't creat a greenhouse effect, but when we plant small tree's
again the forrest grow faster then we ever can think of..and the richman
can forget all of his building plans.So we must plant tree's again and the whole
world must help with this. Then in 4 years we creat a new forrest all around
the world. Wich Michael has say the thing right..4 YEARS WE NEED TO SAVE
THIS WORLD.And tree's also provide clean air, tree's do that by there leave's
We don't need needle tree's but leave tree's. I use to work at the lab and study
at scool the nature and the way they grown. Also how they make deseases to test
the vaccins. That's why I said those deseases came from a large labatory.
Then I can say for sure, the goverment's  has the hand in this..and then I have
again one answer: to decrease population in the world..only because of there
greed. and money..Michael sing the song right: THEY DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT US!
NEVER FORGET: CO2 MADE THE TREE'S GROW FASTER AND THE FORREST TO!!

Harmful Substances,,WILL BE DECREASED BY LARGE TREE'S AND GROWING PLANTS
BECAUSE OF CO2.

you are perfectly right by saying this- amen :!:  :!:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 23, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
And this brought me on a super Idea... :D
Why don't we all start a action on the internet world wide
to ask people to plant tree's with leave's in there garden
feelds every where. us much as they could..can you imagen..???
Its spring now..they grow faster now then ever..and we all
show them a lesson they never forget!!

ALL FOR LOVExxx :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: whateverhappens on March 23, 2010, 05:25:37 PM
it is a good idea. i think and i will do so
#
love and peace to all of our members
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 23, 2010, 07:56:16 PM
I mean this is happening, you can see the link below, maybe I do not understand well.
I will not do the translation of the video, I think the pictures say a thousand words ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xif6uEmKw7o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xif6uEmKw7o)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 24, 2010, 11:11:09 AM
This video we all can hear and understand.. its must be TOP OF THE LIST.

[youtube:ziqfl0oo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR225fVf-2g[/youtube:ziqfl0oo]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 24, 2010, 06:35:13 PM
This is it..the warning of Michael Jackson about the big Lie Global Warming
And how they use H.A.A.R.P Weather control and mind control.
Michael let me see what he try to tell all of us..please take a seat
and watch those video's of

THE BIG GLOBAL WARMING UP LIE!!!

[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7BGZnDkOVQ[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]



[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv7BVMZRc4c[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]


[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR6O3kJTqaI[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]


[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-nvwWaXy8[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]



[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEVUJ174kLA[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]



[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74V5g55YAw[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]



[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBtx7AQSS5A[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]



[youtube:2n2gp0lr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKOhWL1Vwdc[/youtube:2n2gp0lr]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 24, 2010, 06:44:58 PM
Angel Wynton, the real name of that documentary is "The Great Global Warming Swindle" and I posted it on the previous page  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 24, 2010, 06:49:28 PM
HAARP WEATHER CONTROL AND MIND CONTROL USED BY GOVERMENTS.
DON'T BE SHOCKED..BUT OPEN YOUR EYES.. WE CAN CHANGE THIS.


[youtube:17bqvmdh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8[/youtube:17bqvmdh]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHPAR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XE4eRiKrz8
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 24, 2010, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Angel Wynton, the real name of that documentary is "The Great Global Warming Swindle" and I posted it on the previous page  ;)

lOOK AT HAARP then..you will be shocked.

I Hope Michael is coming out soon, and make a wake up call
out of the world..we all gonna help him and our selfs.
We sure can..  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 24, 2010, 07:30:19 PM
There are so many things that people ignore, and if they talk about these things, some call us crazy, .. :geek:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 24, 2010, 07:35:31 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
There are so many things that people ignore, and if they talk about these things, some call us crazy, .. :geek:

We are not Crazy, specialy not my husband, he is a Tecnical ingeneer
and i can sure you, this is verry dangerous, they courses dry in Africa
and starvation, Michael was fighting against this thing, and he has to
do something about it to get the fans and world attention.
And he did, he get it from the right people...US ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 24, 2010, 08:00:43 PM
Thank you Angel Wynton, I know HAARP as well, but it´s good for the ones that don´t.
I opened a thread about the legislation of HAARP (and brothers) and TESLA technology:

HAARP, there´s a law there´s a proof of existence - TESLA (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=5525)

For the people who don´t believe this things are possible and a proof of existence of it as a weapon since there are laws forbidding it, it´s possible...

Also with the sad string of hearthquakes we have loads of words about HAARP, where it´s been discussed, I think, in a very positive way.

The one you posted here is a very good summary of the pionneer documentaries, with the same experts thar have been dennouncing it, and shows a very good experiment on how it works. Plus H Channel has credibility and a big audience.

Thank you for posting it!

Ps: The second link doesn´t work.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 24, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
Oh, and the last one you posted is very good:

Let´s post it here, although apprehensive and very young people should not see it, for the rest can be a MUST SEE:

The Video The USA Army Doesn't Want You To See (Watch At Your Own Risk):

[youtube:3hanfob7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XE4eRiKrz8[/youtube:3hanfob7]

The murders are not colateral damages,
the murders are the nature of modern warfare.

They don´t hate us because of our freedom,
they hate us because every day
we´re founding and commiting crimes against humanity.
...
This is genocide,
and for the most of the world we are the terrorist.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 25, 2010, 04:12:43 AM
This tread should be on the front of Michael Jackson Deadhoax.
I'm sure MJ see this and his family, and that fans know, why MJ
started this deadhoax, to get worldwide attention for this.
We are the one's  searching for true, and we found it.
Also remember we ar Christians, I see this HAARP as a big
fight against humans and to Jesus..the devil knows Jesus
wil come back, and he is the one who want to destroy as much
humans as he can who believe in Jesus and his return to earth.
Take for a start the one's who said they are sexual used by priest..
100 people in the age of 55 years and older. So they keep there
silence untill now. And what about the other generations of boys?
Didn't those man think about them? NO THEY DIDN'T..so they let those
outcast in the church go on doing this? That make's them even guilty
as those outcast of the church, never forget that!!!!
But all those things come's together, and there is been written
allot of the people will lost there fait..but also this...
ONE MORE TIME THE GOSPEL GO'S AROUND THE WORLD AGAIN.
And the devil want this to stop..but he can't cause we go on..
Michael Jackson is a great believer in Jesus, and he is been called
to take this action..true a deadhoax and to reach the people and fans.
ThINK'' sinners are everywhere, also in the church. Not only outsite
Its everywhere..but Jesus look for sinners, they need the doctor{Halleluja}

[youtube:2o2xcb7f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ_JoKUIOPc[/youtube:2o2xcb7f]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 25, 2010, 07:18:10 AM
Uhh what you´re saying is really dangerous, let´s keep things aside.
And onething should be god, and another is church.
This is the fight betwen two powers to dominate us, and church is not better.
This stories about child molestations by priests has been happening through the years.
When I as a child, sometimes you just had to se a priest face to say eeeeeeeuuuuu!
Don´t even look at me! And even mothers worried.
Not to mention the thousands of times when priests have fathered.
Many of them by molesting the young girls called nieces,
young unprotected girls that use to live in the church house to help the priest.
Or the nieces were the daugthers of  secret slipped sexual relations.

There´s a proverb in Spain that says:
"Nunca digas de este agua no beberé
ni este cura no es mi padre".

"You can´t never say from this water I won´t drink,
nor this priest is not my father"

That NWO may be campaigning against church?
OK, I think there´s something or a lot of it.
Church has made this possible and easy to carry on, based on truth.
NWO has always taken advantage of people´s sexual debilities. (Tigger Woods)
NWO being evil doesn´t turn churches into saints.

So keep this thing aside please.
There are church followers here and I don´t want to start saying why church is evil to me.
Not to mention we owe respect to these victims (which have my whole respect).
I´d really thank you.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 25, 2010, 03:19:15 PM
somekindofsign,  religious themes are somewhat delicate, but the cases of priests involved in child abuse cases are becoming increasingly common, and the media do not give much coverage.
Benedict XVI has called for the construction of a New World Order, he did on the 25th of June 2009, looks at the date, will match?. I appeal to humanity to engage in building the same. Only if humanity is united, he said, may face the current threats, terrorism, poverty, weapons proliferation, epidemics, environmental degradation, and asked to place its trust humanity in establishing the New World Order .
A new global political order
A new world economic order
A new global legislative
A move world military order
A new world religious order, .. in other words, a global dictatorship. :geek:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 25, 2010, 03:27:14 PM
I know paula-c, but we agree that this fact doesn´t make those priests good dudes, don´t we?
They have made it easy for the NWO to attack them.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 25, 2010, 06:28:31 PM
Don't understand me wrong, I disagree wat those priest have done to the children!!! :(
But why did those grown up man keep for 50 years silents???? WHY??? :shock:
5 genarations of children are abused by those man they called them selfs priest :(
When those man open there mouth earlyer, this wouldn't be happend to those kids!!
And Razinger{pope} has to go, cause he knew about a priest who couldn't get his
hand's of children and gave him back the same job with children.
And the only New World order we will accept is with JESUS {Halleluja}
By the way, we must understand that the word CHURCH"means the people
who really belief in Jesus and follow his word in the bible.
When I am honnest to myself and you all, Jesus never said build Churchbuildings.
And he also said, you will call nobody Father, only the Father in heaven.
The Pope name him self Di Papa= that means father..and this is where
it ends for me..cause I never will call him that..NEVER!!!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 25, 2010, 06:30:30 PM
Sorry, we totally agree then!  ;)
About the pope, papa, I´m Spanish, I call my dad "papa",  :lol:  but maybe somepeople doesn´t know.
Sorry, it was funny to me seeing someone explaining to me the second word I learnt in this life  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 25, 2010, 07:01:49 PM
somekindofsign , Angel Wynton I agree with you  ;)  

 somekindofsign my father (mi papa) is Spanish :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: *Mo* on March 26, 2010, 02:12:24 AM
Indeed, religious themes are somewhat delicate, but that doesn't mean they can't be discussed.  It all depends on the way it's discussed.  

I was born and raised a catholic.  I was baptized, did my first communion, and received the holy confirmation.  These three events took place because my parents wanted them to happen, I never had any saying in it.  Soon after receiving the holy confirmation I got an aversion to the religion my parents choose for me, as I realized it was purely based on fear.  All the church had been preaching for all those years I attended the holy masses was about hell and damnation.  I thought: "Isn't God all about love?  Then why are those priests trying to scare the living shit out of me for years now?".  I stopped going to church as I don't think being a good person depends on attending masses every Sunday and giving money to the church.

Since then I have looked into many religions, and came to the conclusion that 95% is based on fear.  I don't want to be a slave of fear.  I came to the conclusion that there is a higher power, but I can't name that power.  Whether the higher power's name is God, Allah, Jehovah, Buddha or whatever, I think true religion is in a person's heart.  We all know what is good and what is wrong, therefor we don't have to be predominated by a certain religion which tells us what we can and can't do, and threaten us we will end up in hell if we don't live according to its rules.

My children are not baptized, as I didn't feel comfortable making the choice of a certain religion for them.  They are free to chose their own religion if they want to chose one when they are old enough to do so.  We do pray though and have faith in the higher power.

I hope I'm not offending anyone, because that's the last thing I would want to happen.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: somekindofsign on March 26, 2010, 06:12:31 AM
Indeed!

Astonishing news today:
Pope implicated in fresh allegations over sex abuse by second Catholic priest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/pope-accused-priest-sex-abuse-germany)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 26, 2010, 07:32:25 AM
Don't believe everything the MEDIA is telling you and us!!!!

This matter concern about 100 man in the age of 54 and 65 years
They  could go to a jugde, we have over here a child phone for more
then 40 years. But suddenly 1 person starts to talk, and in 3 weeks
the MEDIA dance on it. Remember what happend with Michael!!!
Allot of false accusations, became a part of Michael and more.

1996 this matter of above came to Razinger, and that priest admit
he used boys, but Razinger gave him a scool with girls..how could
he do that?? Razinger has to leave as pope from Rome, I agree to that!
And a large church investigation must start right away!
Don't think those things happend only in a catholic school or boys school.
It happend to a girlfriend of mine to when I was 10 years of age, and group 4
that teacher touch Gerie my schoolfriend, and I took a peace of wood that
the teacher used for the scoolboard, and HIT HIM..took Gerie with me
and went to princepal of that scool and told my mother and father.
And all of the kids!! :!: But that teacher has to leave and never enter
any scool again. Yes I was a rebel during that time, who was fighting
always for the small kids, I even fight with a larger boy from group 6.
And show him the whole large play ground!!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 26, 2010, 07:36:55 AM
For the record, I'm Baptist in a Baptist church..!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 26, 2010, 08:06:27 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Indeed!

Astonishing news today:
Pope implicated in fresh allegations over sex abuse by second Catholic priest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/26/pope-accused-priest-sex-abuse-germany)

it is a shame these priests who are not allowed to have kids or wife but must be called father hurt kids on a regular basis and also demands that women have their babies (pro life) no matter what situation the woman is in. It is very selfish to be that way and sometimes I think they want these children to be born just so some wicked priest of a man can hurt them in the future... THAT PRIEST SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL!! 300 KIDS?? SO WHAT IF HE IS OLD... HE DESERVES PUNISHMENT
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 26, 2010, 08:22:14 AM
Yes, I agree Mo, as you say it all depends, as discussed, I too was raised as catolicam I was baptized, I did communion, and all such acts took place by my parents. I'm not going to church, forgiveness ... I go once a year, every year on 22 August from 3 years ago, at that time my mother died, and every year when it meets another anniversary is the custom in my family go to Mass that day .. very early in the morning, my aunts, cousins call my home very early, to remind me that we need to go to church that day.
I happens after a person dies, but do not think my mom needs a church on August 22, I have this every day of my life.
I believe in God but do not believe in a God who is sending me to hell if I do not meet the rules established a group of men.
The words "religious" religiare "mean link, ie the religion must be understood as the bond of union with regard aciertas practices, Whether between humans or between humans and God.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 26, 2010, 08:33:15 AM
When those man are old, its not to us to judge but let God the Father
judge him. We are warned by Jesus, not to judge..and I believe in
Jesus his Judgement. That's why I am a Christian.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 26, 2010, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: "Angel Wynton"
When those man are old, its not to us to judge but let God the Father
judge him. We are warned by Jesus, not to judge..and I believe in
Jesus his Judgement. That's why I am a Christian.

what a BS response
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: paula-c on March 26, 2010, 09:15:43 AM
Angel Wynton, I have not lost faith in God .. ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 4
Post by: Angel Wynton on March 26, 2010, 10:26:10 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Angel Wynton, I have not lost faith in God .. ;)

Paula me also ;)
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