Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Theories => Michael's Reasons to hoax his death => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 01:26:51 PM

Title: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 01:26:51 PM

Part 2: what about your $$$?

[youtube:qtf9tjxr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXaMfI715mA[/youtube:qtf9tjxr]
[youtube:qtf9tjxr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqYS25WbOC4[/youtube:qtf9tjxr]

Greetz,
Souza & Mo
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 14, 2010, 01:32:06 PM
Souza, the videos seem to be private by now.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 01:36:26 PM
They are not, keep refreshing. I think it's still processing.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 14, 2010, 01:38:56 PM
Oh, Ok!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 01:54:59 PM
Is it working now?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 14, 2010, 01:57:59 PM
Not yet...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ForstAMoon on March 14, 2010, 01:59:03 PM
The second one yes, the first no, but both are ok directly from YT.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 02:30:32 PM
OK, it should be working now!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 14, 2010, 02:35:04 PM
They are working now! Thanks for uploading.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 14, 2010, 02:53:16 PM
Even those who don´t believe in NWO ruling the world must recognize that we must come back to a productive economy, not this speculation bubbles and all this non productive intermediaries grabbing money from people´s hard work.

I also recommend documentaries such as "Money as debt"

[youtube:18hammzl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8[/youtube:18hammzl]
Spanish version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHt2MJTqUOQ

or "The Corporation"

[youtube:18hammzl]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41oHxk-k5Ak[/youtube:18hammzl]

Spanish version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWmeP3kevrU

http://www.thecorporation.com/
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: Aintnosunshine on March 14, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: tabloidburn on March 14, 2010, 03:16:29 PM
thank you. great summary and conclusion, as always... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: grayshki on March 14, 2010, 03:37:53 PM
Thank You, this was quite interesting. I'm glad u've put it together like this (part 1 and 2).
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: angel on March 14, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
"Claire de Lune"!!  My sophomore piano recital piece.  Oh, the memories...Lol.  On a serious note, thanks for sharing the unfortunate facts of this prophecy fulfilling financial mega-mess, something I think Michael was keenly aware of.  And the blatant pronouncement of Prime Minister Brown of an emerging NWO...incredible.  If our eyes were not open before this, they certainly are now.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: Chamone on March 14, 2010, 05:42:47 PM
Reminder for myself to watch all this tomorrow.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 14, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Even those who don´t believe in NWO ruling the world must recognize that we must come back to a productive economy, not this speculation bubbles and all this non productive intermediaries grabbing money from people´s hard work.

I also recommend documentaries such as "Money as debt"

[youtube:k2zsaxbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8[/youtube:k2zsaxbj]
Spanish version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHt2MJTqUOQ

or "The Corporation"

[youtube:k2zsaxbj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41oHxk-k5Ak[/youtube:k2zsaxbj]

Spanish version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWmeP3kevrU

http://www.thecorporation.com/

Great vids, thank you!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: mjjveritas on March 14, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
angel, I remember seeing a conversation/interview with MJ and he mentioned that "Claire de lune" was one of his favorite pieces of music. I think it was the Brett Ratner video. Some people say MJ was not aware he was being filmed?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: anna19 on March 14, 2010, 10:16:45 PM
Thank You Souza & Mo 4 making these brilliant videos.
Bill Clinton repealed the glass steagall act in 1999, which was created after the great depression to protect our money in the banks. During the great depression many banks went bankrupt and many people lost all their savings. When the glass steagall act was repealed this eliminated the firewall between commercial and retail banking allowing this ponzi scheme to create an artificial bubble in the housing maket.

Also, in the U.S. the goverment gave taxpayers money away called grants ( up to 25k) to risky buyers towards a downpayment and to cover closing costs. This policy was expanded under Bush.

I agree that this is exactly why MJ hoaxed his death to get the word out. Michael being a target in the media stems from him calling them out in the song "They don't care about us". I watched for years how "they" tried to distort and use the media as a public flogging against him. The people around him were bad news and were put there to watch and control him so the truth wouldn't get out.
Here's a linK:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=3 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1042593/repeal_glasssteagallstiegel_act.html?cat=3)

Regards,
Anna
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: word on March 14, 2010, 10:20:07 PM
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MICHAEL JACKSON.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: anna19 on March 14, 2010, 10:24:48 PM
How do you know?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: anna19 on March 14, 2010, 10:27:25 PM
BTW don't shout at me. You don't know me and don't know what I know.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: word on March 14, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: "anna19"
How do you know?



Corruption in the world did not start with Michael and his allged death is not going to make a difference,dead or alive,the evil man do will still exist.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: anna19 on March 14, 2010, 10:30:35 PM
But he knew all the players.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: angel on March 14, 2010, 10:31:35 PM
Quote from: "mjjveritas"
angel, I remember seeing a conversation/interview with MJ and he mentioned that "Claire de lune" was one of his favorite pieces of music. I think it was the Brett Ratner video. Some people say MJ was not aware he was being filmed?
Thanks, I have not heard this.  I will try to find the interview and watch.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: word on March 14, 2010, 10:32:40 PM
Quote from: "anna19"
But he knew all the players.
 Who are the players that Michael knew?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: *Mo* on March 15, 2010, 01:24:11 AM
Word, I couldn't help but laugh when I went through your posts on various threads.  Here you are claiming that Mike has nothing to do with Illuminati and NWO, stating it as if it's a fact, because you know everything about him since you're a fan for over 30 years and no one can't tell you nothing about Michael Jackson that you don't already know.  

Unless you know him personally, then there's no way you can possibly know everything about him.  It's perfectly fine to have different opinions, but then show some argumentation like many others have done who do support the NWO/Illuminati theory.  Just saying that Mike has nothing to do with it doesn't add any value to the conversation.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: the arabian nights on March 15, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...

well said
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: the arabian nights on March 15, 2010, 01:54:32 AM
@ at word i think your right this is a distraction to the hoax investigation and michael
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: *Mo* on March 15, 2010, 02:14:04 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
@ at word i think your right this is a distraction to the hoax investigation and michael

Again, argumentation please!  What's your statement based on?  Just believe?  Come on, point it out!  Statements without argumentation do not add anything to the conversation.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: Puff on March 15, 2010, 02:26:46 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
@ at word i think your right this is a distraction to the hoax investigation and michael

This is an "investigation"..
Mike wants to make people aware of what happens in the world, and Souza and Mo are trying to spread his message making video about world's HUGE problems..
Is this a distraction?? mm I don't think so!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: LunaCielo on March 15, 2010, 03:26:21 AM
great job ... the debt is strangling the economy in America, the Federal Reserve and European Central Bank in Europe are the systems devised to impoverish the country and force them to submit to their yoke... :(
We must react and do it all together I, before it's too late!
Michael has tried to awaken in all ways! :!:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 08:17:00 AM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...

There are lots of experts that just don´t state what you say, but they have no room in media.
You just repeat the hypnotic sounds on bankers (which have all the room in media).
Just like happens with the climategate.

I´m going to post here a link to the blog of my favourite economist denying what you say.
He´s Juan Torres, a professor at some Andalucia´s Universities.
He´s all the time debunking what you say, so well worth the reading.
I recommend all of you this whole blog.
But just an article here as an example:

http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhl33.dinaserver.com%2Fhosting%2Fjuantorreslopez.com%2Fjtl%2F%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D1513%26Itemid%3D16&sl=es&tl=en

This economist is always stating how they cheat us and how easy it could be to end Earth Hunger, but they just don´t want at all.

He is not the only EXPERT saying this at all.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 08:25:03 AM
Here you have some more:

50 Pill to understand the crisis
http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhl33.dinaserver.com%2Fhosting%2Fjuantorreslopez.com%2Fjtl%2F%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D1423%26Itemid%3D136&sl=es&tl=en

Hunger in context
http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhl33.dinaserver.com%2Fhosting%2Fjuantorreslopez.com%2Fjtl%2F%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D1712%26Itemid%3D136&sl=es&tl=en

But scroll down this blog or search "hambre" (hunger) on it...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: word on March 15, 2010, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Word, I couldn't help but laugh when I went through your posts on various threads.  Here you are claiming that Mike has nothing to do with Illuminati and NWO, stating it as if it's a fact, because you know everything about him since you're a fan for over 30 years and no one can't tell you nothing about Michael Jackson that you don't already know.  

Unless you know him personally, then there's no way you can possibly know everything about him.  It's perfectly fine to have different opinions, but then show some argumentation like many others have done who do support the NWO/Illuminati theory.  Just saying that Mike has nothing to do with it doesn't add any value to the conversation.


In case you forgot,you and Souza don't  personally know Michael Jackson either,and its not right for you two to link his name with NWO "theory".The NWO was already in place before Michael "died" because I have been hearing about it for years,so again you're not telling me nothing I don't already know.I'm not argumentive,I just don't agree with you or Souza.This is not the NWO site, its the MJHD website the last time I checked,all this other NWO is irrevelant to the hoax death investigation.I didn't say I knew everything about him,I said I have been a fan for 30 years and you still can't tell me NOTHING about him that I don't already know.Stop taking my words out of context please.Just saying Michael faked his death to tell the world about a NWO does not add value to NWO thread either,peace.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: word on March 15, 2010, 08:47:38 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...

well said
I couldn't have said better myself,they got these poor babbies scared to death.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: *Mo* on March 15, 2010, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Word, I couldn't help but laugh when I went through your posts on various threads.  Here you are claiming that Mike has nothing to do with Illuminati and NWO, stating it as if it's a fact, because you know everything about him since you're a fan for over 30 years and no one can't tell you nothing about Michael Jackson that you don't already know.  

Unless you know him personally, then there's no way you can possibly know everything about him.  It's perfectly fine to have different opinions, but then show some argumentation like many others have done who do support the NWO/Illuminati theory.  Just saying that Mike has nothing to do with it doesn't add any value to the conversation.


In case you forgot,you and Souza don't  personally know Michael Jackson either,and its not right for you two to link his name with NWO "theory".

Correct, that's why we called it a THEORY, and we have every right to publish our THEORY

Quote from: "word"
The NWO was already in place before Michael "died" because I have been hearing about it for years,so again you're not telling me nothing I don't already know.I'm not argumentive,I just don't agree with you or Souza.This is not the NWO site, its the MJHD website the last time I checked,all this other NWO is irrevelant to the hoax death investigation.

This is the MJDHI site, and maybe in your opinion this other NWO is irrevelant to the hoax death investigation, but to us it is certainly relevant.  That is OUR opinion.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 10:00:41 AM
More:

Quote
I've finished in recent days a couple of articles for magazines and current world projection of the Faculty of Theology of Granada, and Manifesto.  Journal of critical thinking, to be published shortly and in which, among other things, reflect on the moral dimension of the crisis.  One aspect that seems crucial in view of how it developed and the responses you are experiencing.  Transcribe some of the questions I ask in these texts.  I do so precisely because the more times I say I'm a liberal demagogues to make this kind of reflection, as does one of the most prominent commentators on the web, the more often and more insistently'm going back to them. The economic crisis - Health in crisis

 (...) As above ahead, the crisis is not just a financial impact, nor a purely economic matter, at least in the conventional sense given to this term.  It's much more.  What we are experiencing is the result of a perversion, a radical reversal of principle, of a long process of uncivilization and destruction.
 When markets were fginancieros ugly, speculators left with the usual greed to other markets, oil and food raw materials, causing dramatic price increases that led to increasing hunger and I mentioned desnutricicón up.  At such times, on the websites of banks could be read ads like this by Deutsche Bank: "Do you want to reap the benefits of a possible increase in prices of agricultural products? Deutsche Bank, as a distributor, offers two ways to profit . And then presented two financial products through Luxembourg SICAV.
 That's just an economic issue?  "Profit from the hunger of others is just a financial issue?
 To end hunger in the world, FAO has been calling some 30,000 billion, ie 40% of what the European Central Bank injected into markets in one day!, 29 September 2008.
And when they met in Rome, the governments launch campaigns on the fly announcing their commitment to fight hunger when the money actually put on the table saying that end was almost 1,000 times less than the money allocated to save the banks, and that without it, as ls criticized the director of FAO, then have not kept their word
 That's just economics?
 The gradual drift of the capital to the financial universe weakening real activity and generates instability, since the basis in which there is gain supports speculation that implies a constant hazard assumption and therefore a permanent tendency to instability and the crises mentioned above, is it a natural phenomenon that has nothing to do with our moral principles?
 Is it not rather the result of a major alteration of the rational basis of any social order?  Is it not rather the result of a vicious divorce between means and ends, the denaturation of money and means of payment to be instruments for change themselves become objects of change?
 Does not clearly expresses this crisis that we are calling "economy" is an activity that has increasingly less to do with our real needs to be linked only with money, which by no means is everything from the point of view satisfaction?
 Can not be produced because the money has ceased to be an instrument to become money-power in the hands of the privileged and the artificial expression of all things?
 "And this crisis will not have been the inevitable consequence of that society to be subsumed in the economy and the monetary universe has had to assume also the ethics of greed and accumulation compared with that of the need?  Could it be that we have tax money as reference universe, like our unique ecosystem?
 Is not that really have made the world of business becoming our "natural order," as Hayek?  And if it was so, that's what makes us more human, or, conversely, what makes us inhumaniza and slaves?  (...)

http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhl33.dinaserver.com%2Fhosting%2Fjuantorreslopez.com%2Fjtl%2F%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D1644&sl=es&tl=en

Can someone tell me that MJ doesn´t care about this???????????
He talked about it in an abstract way because of two reasons:
1. He´s an artist.
2. Talking about this in an abstract way is politically correct, so allowed, so he could be heard.
Whats´s the first thing we think when someone talks in plain sight in media?
Wow, someone is going to stop him...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on March 15, 2010, 12:05:53 PM
I think this is all part of a propaganda..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: the arabian nights on March 15, 2010, 12:20:21 PM
Quote from: "Puff"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
@ at word i think your right this is a distraction to the hoax investigation and michael

This is an "investigation"..
Mike wants to make people aware of what happens in the world, and Souza and Mo are trying to spread his message making video about world's HUGE problems..
Is this a distraction?? mm I don't think so!

but just to get my voice over - just my opinion - to add to the conversation - how do we know what was intended, that this  investigation was part of the plan,  we dont, we hope mike hoaxed, but for all we know he may disapprove of any investigation - it maybe spoiling his plans. i dont have the answers, all i can do is speculate - just like all of the other hoaxers, but  we are all entitled to our opinions.

we rely on the sources available to us which includes, books, vids, YT, articles and the internet then we interpret what we have digested, sometimes our view changes, sometimes by discussing is brings up more things of interest.

you seem to think that the rest of the population are not concerned about the world, all us are, its not just mike, i dont think that this is his big plan - i think he would be better voicing his opinions then creating a hoax so that a minority of hoax believers could say it was the reason for the hoax. i think he should speak for himself on humanitian issues.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: the arabian nights on March 15, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
we are not oprah - we have no strength, when i asked on the site how have you made that change - i got hardly any posts, you see its not as interesting as mike in his gold pants - not that i am saying that he did not look good in the pants.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: the arabian nights on March 15, 2010, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
@ at word i think your right this is a distraction to the hoax investigation and michael

Again, argumentation please!  What's your statement based on?  Just believe?  Come on, point it out!  Statements without argumentation do not add anything to the conversation.

mo you have pm'ed me and i have responded to you. so i leave it there.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: CrazyBanana on March 15, 2010, 02:18:32 PM
Thanks a lot ladies, I never paid much attention to the money side of things, cause I dont make much right now LOL, but I wonder if my parents are being smart  :?
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: word on March 15, 2010, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Word, I couldn't help but laugh when I went through your posts on various threads.  Here you are claiming that Mike has nothing to do with Illuminati and NWO, stating it as if it's a fact, because you know everything about him since you're a fan for over 30 years and no one can't tell you nothing about Michael Jackson that you don't already know.  

Unless you know him personally, then there's no way you can possibly know everything about him.  It's perfectly fine to have different opinions, but then show some argumentation like many others have done who do support the NWO/Illuminati theory.  Just saying that Mike has nothing to do with it doesn't add any value to the conversation.


In case you forgot,you and Souza don't  personally know Michael Jackson either,and its not right for you two to link his name with NWO "theory".

Correct, that's why we called it a THEORY, and we have every right to publish our THEORY

Quote from: "word"
The NWO was already in place before Michael "died" because I have been hearing about it for years,so again you're not telling me nothing I don't already know.I'm not argumentive,I just don't agree with you or Souza.This is not the NWO site, its the MJHD website the last time I checked,all this other NWO is irrevelant to the hoax death investigation.

This is the MJDHI site, and maybe in your opinion this other NWO is irrevelant to the hoax death investigation, but to us it is certainly relevant.  That is OUR opinion.


Your right  it is your opinion so don't get mad when I state mine and it does not agree with you or your partner.None of what you state is a fact concerning Michael Jackson and  a NWO.If it is show me the facts and I'll be quiet,peace.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: whateverhappens on March 15, 2010, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: "anna19"
Thank You Souza & Mo 4 making these brilliant videos.
Bill Clinton repealed the glass steagall act in 1999, which was created after the great depression to protect our money in the banks. During the great depression many banks went bankrupt and many people lost all their savings. When the glass steagall act was repealed this eliminated the firewall between commercial and retail banking allowing this ponzi scheme to create an artificial bubble in the housing maket.

Also, in the U.S. the goverment gave taxpayers money away called grants ( up to 25k) to risky buyers towards a downpayment and to cover closing costs. This policy was expanded under Bush.

I agree that this is exactly why MJ hoaxed his death to get the word out. Michael being a target in the media stems from him calling them out in the song "They don't care about us". I watched for years how "they" tried to distort and use the media as a public flogging against him. The people around him were bad news and were put there to watch and control him so the truth wouldn't get out.
Here's a linK:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=3 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1042593/repeal_glasssteagallstiegel_act.html?cat=3)

Regards,
Anna

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e24980.htm (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24980.htm)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: whateverhappens on March 15, 2010, 03:56:33 PM
Quote from: "whateverhappens"
Quote from: "anna19"
Thank You Souza & Mo 4 making these brilliant videos.
Bill Clinton repealed the glass steagall act in 1999, which was created after the great depression to protect our money in the banks. During the great depression many banks went bankrupt and many people lost all their savings. When the glass steagall act was repealed this eliminated the firewall between commercial and retail banking allowing this ponzi scheme to create an artificial bubble in the housing maket.

Also, in the U.S. the goverment gave taxpayers money away called grants ( up to 25k) to risky buyers towards a downpayment and to cover closing costs. This policy was expanded under Bush.

I agree that this is exactly why MJ hoaxed his death to get the word out. Michael being a target in the media stems from him calling them out in the song "They don't care about us". I watched for years how "they" tried to distort and use the media as a public flogging against him. The people around him were bad news and were put there to watch and control him so the truth wouldn't get out.
Here's a linK:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=3 (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1042593/repeal_glasssteagallstiegel_act.html?cat=3)

Regards,
Anna

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... e24980.htm (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24980.htm)
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Word, I couldn't help but laugh when I went through your posts on various threads. Here you are claiming that Mike has nothing to do with Illuminati and NWO, stating it as if it's a fact, because you know everything about him since you're a fan for over 30 years and no one can't tell you nothing about Michael Jackson that you don't already know.

Unless you know him personally, then there's no way you can possibly know everything about him. It's perfectly fine to have different opinions, but then show some argumentation like many others have done who do support the NWO/Illuminati theory. Just saying that Mike has nothing to do with it doesn't add any value to the conversation.
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Word, I couldn't help but laugh when I went through your posts on various threads. Here you are claiming that Mike has nothing to do with Illuminati and NWO, stating it as if it's a fact, because you know everything about him since you're a fan for over 30 years and no one can't tell you nothing about Michael Jackson that you don't already know.

Unless you know him personally, then there's no way you can possibly know everything about him. It's perfectly fine to have different opinions, but then show some argumentation like many others have done who do support the NWO/Illuminati theory. Just saying that Mike has nothing to do with it doesn't add any value to the conversation.



look here

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17828.html (http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17828.html)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 04:50:03 PM
SICARIO tells Bilderberg Group HOW TO SUBMIT TO THE WORLD

[youtube:ou9ponxo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_BT3oJ2IYE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:ou9ponxo]

Quote
In the documentary zeitgeist find this valuable testimony of a former hitman as the Bilderberg Group and managed to control and corrupt governments around the world, so we can understand the inaction of our governments to the plans of the elite.
CORPOROCRACY BILDERBERG THE CLUB    mentioned by John Perkins, ex-hitman economic work for them tells us that behind those loans that these institutions gives our country, OUR PRESS REPORTS AS IF WE WERE A LOTTERY PRIZE OF THESE TO GET A CREDIT INSTITUTIONS behind each of these funds is managed very high commissions for rulers and officials on duty to accept and submit to our peoples dollars unpayable debts completely devoid of value and they can take control of our economies.

The creation of an empire "invisible" narrated from within.

Pedro Pablo Kuczynski Godard is the hitman who was sent to SUBMIT TO OUR COUNTRY DOMAIN BILDERBERG from studying at Oxford University and Princeton was recruited and subjected to various tests and trials and was enrolled at    NSA    (National Security Agency / Central Security Service (NSA / CSS) American BILDERBERG dominated entity, being featured at    World Bank in 1961 to work as an economic hit appropriation and control various economies.
 Featured in    International Finance Corporation (IFC)    credits promoting slavery and infiltration in the governments of the world, developing strategic plans for economic infiltration.

 Bilderberg in 1962 won control of the BCR with Decree    Law No. 13,958    created to indebt our economy with the famous sovereign bonds, then a Felipillo placing on the Peruvian government to Ricardo Pío Pérez Godoy to negotiate oil contracts and the creation of    National Planning System of Economic and Social Development of Peru    entity to bring our nation to control them (the National Planning Institute), which in the decades of 60 and 70 and the first half of the 80, led the formulation and implementation of important public policies, strategies and development plans , short, medium and long term, both at national and sectoral and regional levels.

 Already infiltrated our economy and government gave privileges to their corporate policies for theft and looting    brazen of our resources and wealth, increasingly indebted to bring our economy to its empire.  
 Was featured nothing more and nothing less than our Central Bank as President in the years 1967 to 69 in 1968 recruits    JAVIER SILVA RUETE    , Was one of the conspirators that funds and achieving the overthrow of    Juan Velasco Alvarado.

 Bilderberg were able to buy and enlist    MORALES BERMUDES    in your plan    CONDOR mediated by Javier Silva Ruete, they regained their business and through this plan would ensure elimination of possible threats to their interests, always linked to the tentacles of the Bilderberg club positioning in strategic locations to maintain their rule and care of their interests in the region, becoming Minister of Energy and Mines in 1980, in Economic 2001.2004 and Prime Minister in 2005, now in the INTER-AMERICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK as always advisable to borrow more and monitor the interests of their employers, Kuczynski is the leader of an independent commission has been tasked with analyzing the past three months the possible capital increase of the IDB.

 HAVE THE RED AND THE WORKING infiltrated OUR COUNTRY AT THIS TIME TO FOLLOW Remove and run our country.

 OUR COUNTRY IS A BRANCH OF THEM BILDERBERG they control our economy and our POLITICIANS.

 KUCZYNSKI Lord Here I put the testimony of a former colleague SURE THAT YOU WERE EVER HAVE FRIENDS BUT THE DIGNITY AND SHAME OF THINGS HE HAS DONE.

 MR.  Pedro Pablo Kuczynski Godard FAIL TO FUCK MY COUNTRY BAND Blurbs BUT NOT BEAT THE RICHES OF MY NATION  

 GO AND DIE TO FEEL David Rockefeller and the rest of their NELLY !!!!!!!!!
 Each country has its GAMONAL or headman in charge of maintaining the rule of CORPOROCRACIA BILDERBERG, and in turn are responsible for recruiting these Felipillo for the management of their interests such selfless help Felipillo after looting his country are rewarded with positions in the IMF, IDB, WB as an example to new recruits.

Source:
http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telurica.com%2Fvideopost%2Fsicario-del-grupo-bilderberg-narra-como-sometieron-al-mundo&sl=es&tl=en
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: paula-c on March 15, 2010, 08:37:37 PM
No doubt you fit: the dollar gunned it the heights of 10,000 m and is in free fall to the Earth at extreme speeds. The resulting carnage will be catastrophic for us people and the world.

Beyond maneuvers and stratagems, the weakened dollar advertises predictable bleeding that occurs when the State power levers are controlled by adventurers and criminals whose single intention is totally desangrar a country and then move to their next victim.

Essentially, the Kabbalah It has a firm grip on the nation's credit card and not drop it until you've extracted the last cent "borrowed".
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 09:02:42 PM
The U.S. debt

http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhl33.dinaserver.com%2Fhosting%2Fjuantorreslopez.com%2Fjtl%2F%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D1770%26Itemid%3D16&sl=es&tl=en&swap=1

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

paula-c, since you are from Venezuela, I recommend you and the rest of the Spanish speakers, to visit this two sites, you may like them:

http://www.juantorreslopez.com
http://www.rebelion.org

Also any of you who don´t mind using a translator...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: PinkTopaz on March 15, 2010, 09:39:39 PM
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...

well said
I couldn't have said better myself,they got these poor babbies scared to death.
Oh Dear God. Honestly? Just because they're teenagers doesn't mean they're sniveling little whelps!! I think it's far more beneficial for young peeps to be reading about what could very well be actually going on in this world (better overprepared than under) rather than sitting around in a depression about MJ's "passing" and typing about how Murray is "such a monster" all day. Or worse, stuffing their face in some iPhone watching a music video that's nearly as grotesque (probably sexually, of course) as some of this stuff, anyway.. I wish people would stop underestimating teenagers, they're not ALL emotional wrecks in black nail polish..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 16, 2010, 12:57:21 AM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...

well said
I couldn't have said better myself,they got these poor babbies scared to death.
Oh Dear God. Honestly? Just because they're teenagers doesn't mean they're sniveling little whelps!! I think it's far more beneficial for young peeps to be reading about what could very well be actually going on in this world (better overprepared than under) rather than sitting around in a depression about MJ's "passing" and typing about how Murray is "such a monster" all day. Or worse, stuffing their face in some iPhone watching a music video that's nearly as grotesque (probably sexually, of course) as some of this stuff, anyway.. I wish people would stop underestimating teenagers, they're not ALL emotional wrecks in black nail polish..

Amen!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 16, 2010, 08:43:30 AM
Quote
I wish people would stop underestimating teenagers, they're not ALL emotional wrecks in black nail polish...

They´ve been decades now destroying youthness reputation so to destroy their strength to fight...
You put a label on them and they are automatically seen as lazy, drunk, non thinkers... so their are not listened...

Go ahead young people, you´re a big treasure of humanity.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: paula-c on March 16, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
somekindofsign, that's true, and here one must add that the president would have called "bastard" on television, the internet and the press call him monkey, black fucking, now it's murder, ... among other things, and no freedom of expression. We live very hard times.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: PinkTopaz on March 16, 2010, 08:48:27 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "word"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
Well, Souza, by posting these videos you start "discussing" highly relevant political and economical coherences here ...

O.K.

Are you aware of global demographic developments in OECD-countries (decreasing birth rates and increasing old age population)? And the maroeconomic results?

What do you expect by an U.S.- system living on credits (=depths) for decades? It worked for a long time and now it`s over ... this is just mathematics and nothing "conspirational" about it. The future of the "western world" (democracies)  with it`s ageing populaton will depend on India, Africa, China (democracies?) ... a simple fact.

MJ hoaxed his death for these inevitable macroeconomic developments?

And if so, what will change when MJ comes back? Does he have a solution? Salvation?

Few people = experts are aware of these complexes. And discussing this here (remember there are teenagers on your board) ... well, are you sure you have a veritable expertise on the complexity of international ecosystem implications?

To point at alleged culprits is an abbreviated approach and does not face reality.

If you really have a solution - the world is waiting ...

well said
I couldn't have said better myself,they got these poor babbies scared to death.
Oh Dear God. Honestly? Just because they're teenagers doesn't mean they're sniveling little whelps!! I think it's far more beneficial for young peeps to be reading about what could very well be actually going on in this world (better overprepared than under) rather than sitting around in a depression about MJ's "passing" and typing about how Murray is "such a monster" all day. Or worse, stuffing their face in some iPhone watching a music video that's nearly as grotesque (probably sexually, of course) as some of this stuff, anyway.. I wish people would stop underestimating teenagers, they're not ALL emotional wrecks in black nail polish..

Amen!
Thanks, Souza! I just I felt I needed to say that..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: King_Michael on March 16, 2010, 09:13:49 PM
Do you guys think Michael hoaxed his death for nothing maybe it has nothing to do with the nwo directly but he wants us to open our eyes people need to know whats out there and that they are a huge threat to humanity
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: Inhalib on March 17, 2010, 02:55:02 AM
I have no intention to be rude or anything, so, an early apologise if it sounds like that.

The other day I was having a conversation with a member in the chatroom and he/she mentioned zeigest. IMO is nice to have different opinions, but when an argument...probably a lot of us don't use an argument for each post we make, but the difficult part is not there..is it when someone gives arguments that may be valids or not.
I'm an archaeologist and I can tell that the first part of zeiggest is not true, the facts that are shown there can't be proven until we create time machine.. and once we have it, we still need to learn different languages and do anthropological studies the way the classical school did to inferr if our counclusion fits with the real way of feeling and living of the people we study... and that is without mention numerology correlations between ages, places and cultures!...
But seeing people that believes in this kind of movies is not unusual and is totally understandable, because they found themselves in front of something different that suddenly shows that everything is possible! that all the people are bad people! that our freedom has being lost and we didn't noticed that!... and paranoia or some other thing similar to it begun...and THAT is what you don't notice.
Since the earliest way of living the man is surrounded with another humans, one haracteristic that distinct us from another animals (not all of them of course) is the we are gregarious, wich means that no one can live all alone (not in a phisical way, what is pretty obvious I believe, neither in a psychological way).. and since we need to live with others our patterns of behavior doesn't work for an individual, they do it in behalf of the group/community/society.. because other way it wouldn't work as such.
My point with this is that since the man is man he losses his freedom in some kind of way, it has always been like that and it will always be, just by the simple fact that we are humans and we need to adapt ourselvs to live in a comunnity, and the one that teach us is our culture (that includes the knowledge we get from our family for example)... but... of ourse that the ones that made this movie in particular doesn't know this and believe that if we all stand up and scream "stop" everyone will be able to manage their own money and life without having any kind of problem.
 
this post became longer than I expected, but I'll add one more thing. Awake? warning? open your eyes? dig deeper? your brain is being washed?... well guess what.. at least the first part of zeiggest did the same thing they aware of.. they made you believe (once again) in something that someone you don't know has said.
And I bet that most of the people that mentions zeiggest in this forum dind't take a note from the "sources" part in the credits to do a research and speak not for the things that the movie said but for the things that came of that research. Of course I assume that that wouldn't be enough...but I won't get far in this post.. is not my intention to change people's mind, just to show MY point of view.

Lots of L.O.V.E and sorry for the long post (and the horrible english of course)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: the arabian nights on March 17, 2010, 04:36:45 AM
its probably all about the contracts
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 17, 2010, 07:52:36 AM
Quote from: "Inhalib"
But seeing people that believes in this kind of movies is not unusual and is totally understandable, because they found themselves in front of something different that suddenly shows that everything is possible! that all the people are bad people! that our freedom has being lost and we didn't noticed that!... and paranoia or some other thing similar to it begun...and THAT is what you don't notice.

(...) My point with this is that since the man is man he losses his freedom in some kind of way, it has always been like that and it will always be, just by the simple fact that we are humans and we need to adapt ourselvs to live in a comunnity, and the one that teach us is our culture (that includes the knowledge we get from our family for example)... but... of ourse that the ones that made this movie in particular doesn't know this and believe that if we all stand up and scream "stop" everyone will be able to manage their own money and life without having any kind of problem.

First of all, thank you for sharing your thoughts, that´s the way we can think about them and debunk aspects from both of the positions.

About the first part of this quotation, don´t assume other people don´t realize there are lies in movies such as Zeitgeist. There´s lot of information debunking aspects of it on the net. That´s what is called disinformation. Around NWO there are tons of real information mixed with disinformation so things can be easily debunked and so the rest is discredited. Exagerating things so they are unbeliveble. IMO it worked with you until now.

You say people come across with this information and suddenly... well, it´s not that the world is perfect one day and next you find this and say "OMG, I thought we were in heaven and now I´m in hell" I think this world today is actually a hell, except for that who has a comfortable life, a stable work and incomes, a life that match with the canon... try to get out from the path... With this crisis for instance I´ve seen people that was canon people becoming "out of the path" and discover the hell that others had been living for years, such as millions of young people who never had an apportunity. They had to live it to understand it. Just few people realize that without living it.

About the second part, I think you´re mixing being a social being with being a slave of the sytem and corporations.

About all the people being bad people... Quite the opposite. People is good and we have to unite to have the power we don´t have and never had. To get democracies, which never existed. And pull the power out of this greedy people who are not god and live in another dimension different from the one I live in.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 17, 2010, 09:21:23 AM
Oh, now reading the Guardian I found this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/help/insideguardian/2010/feb/03/zeitgeist

Things like that are really suspicious.
Experiment? with social colours?
I remember psicology of image and colours from college. Dangerous game that I don´t want to hear beside the words social experiment.

Plus in some weeks you google zeitgeist and what you find is that eclipsing the info/disinfo (whatever).
NWO there´s a group, Big Brother the reality, I see it happenning all the time. They know the power of search engines and information means, that´s why the owners are invited to Davos and Bilderberg. Tom Tom, Google, big journals and broadcasting corporations...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: Inhalib on March 18, 2010, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
First of all, thank you for sharing your thoughts, that´s the way we can think about them and debunk aspects from both of the positions.

About the first part of this quotation, don´t assume other people don´t realize there are lies in movies such as Zeitgeist. There´s lot of information debunking aspects of it on the net. That´s what is called disinformation. Around NWO there are tons of real information mixed with disinformation so things can be easily debunked and so the rest is discredited. Exagerating things so they are unbeliveble. IMO it worked with you until now.

You say people come across with this information and suddenly... well, it´s not that the world is perfect one day and next you find this and say "OMG, I thought we were in heaven and now I´m in hell" I think this world today is actually a hell, except for that who has a comfortable life, a stable work and incomes, a life that match with the canon... try to get out from the path... With this crisis for instance I´ve seen people that was canon people becoming "out of the path" and discover the hell that others had been living for years, such as millions of young people who never had an apportunity. They had to live it to understand it. Just few people realize that without living it.

About the second part, I think you´re mixing being a social being with being a slave of the sytem and corporations.

About all the people being bad people... Quite the opposite. People is good and we have to unite to have the power we don´t have and never had. To get democracies, which never existed. And pull the power out of this greedy people who are not god and live in another dimension different from the one I live in.

*Hi there, I won't blame you for trying to use my exactly words in a textual way (even when I ask for apologys for my bad english) when you perfectly know that I wasn't reffering about a change that is done just after 2.30 hours that is what the movie takes... but.. is ok for me. you knew what I mean and even then you try to put things for shoing that muy post is wrong.

* Yes I assume that some people doesn't know that there are lies in movies such as zeigest (wich is the one I use for my example of how easily can be some minds manipulated without needing the presece of NWO) and I assume that because I have talked with a lot of people before you and before this forum. This movie didn't came out just a month ago, so my ideas (and with me a lot of other people that can debunke at least the firs part as well) are not being exposed just now.

*about info and desinfo.. are you for real?  so how do you know that NWO is a bad thing? how can you prove that what you believe is trustfull information regarding NWO is not a desinfo coming from somewhere else just to debunke NWO?... I'm sorry, and if you look my posts you will see that I'm not usually rude.. but.. are you F* kidding me? are you telling me that my years of studys and research about the man are based on some internet info that anyone can upload?. Let me tell you.. In the university I get my license those works are not allowed, we read and study books, not blogs.. we work with communitys, not pictures.. we make investigations about the past and not about the things that are said about the past.

* you must search the meaning of anthropology and archaeology and then ask to yourself "I am in position to tell her that she is "mixing" social with slave?"...
I won't discuss with you any further because I don't need to..I don't need to prove or to show to you or anybody why do I beliuev what I believe.. I made a first try but is usefull when are so many closed minds around. I didn't came with an opinion based on a movie that an anonymous made.. i based my opinion in years of stuing, but I get as an answer a statement saying I'm confusing social with slavery My God!!
The topic in this thread is Michael Message and I have my own opinion about that. hope you to be happy when NWO arrives and that some kind of movie or blog gives you the solution.

Lots of L.O.V.E

NOTE TO ALL: my firs language is spanish, that is way my english sucks. Please, don't take my message literal, use your imagination so this post might be in some way coherent since the first to the last part. Thanks. (hope that is enough for you somekind..)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: somekindofsign on March 18, 2010, 02:21:44 PM
Sorry Inhalib, but I really don´t understand what you say  :?
You seem to assume again. Maybe assuming that I was not in the College or studied from books?
If you prefer you can explain it in Spanish, maybe there´s less room to misunderstanding each other.
;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: deepu priyanka on March 20, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
I DON'T THINK MJ WOULD GET INTO ALL THIS...HE WOULD HAVE HAD OTHER REASONS TO HOAX HIS DEATH THAN THESE POLITICAL N ECONOMIC CAUSES...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: deepu priyanka on March 20, 2010, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
@ at word i think your right this is a distraction to the hoax investigation and michael
YES... IDONT THINK HE WOULD HAVE HOAXED HIS DEATH FOR THESE REASONS.. IS HE A POLITICIAN  OR SOCIAL REFORMER..
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: *Mo* on March 20, 2010, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
I DON'T THINK MJ WOULD GET INTO ALL THIS...HE WOULD HAVE HAD OTHER REASONS TO HOAX HIS DEATH THAN THESE POLITICAL N ECONOMIC CAUSES...

Then tell me - what do YOU think Mike's reason was?  It's very simple to say "I don't think MJ would get into all this", but then I'd like you to tell me how you are interpreting the past 8.5 months and all we have seen and heard...  I'm awaiting your answer.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: deepu priyanka on March 20, 2010, 05:23:28 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
I DON'T THINK MJ WOULD GET INTO ALL THIS...HE WOULD HAVE HAD OTHER REASONS TO HOAX HIS DEATH THAN THESE POLITICAL N ECONOMIC CAUSES...

Then tell me - what do YOU think Mike's reason was?  It's very simple to say "I don't think MJ would get into all this", but then I'd like you to tell me how you are interpreting the past 8.5 months and all we have seen and heard...  I'm awaiting your answer.
WELL NO ONE HERE KNOWS FOR SURE Y HE HAS HOAXED HIS DEATH N ALL WE DOING IS JUST GUESSES ... UR THEORY MIGHT SOUND SENSIBLE N MIGHT BE TRUE BUT HE HAS MORE IMP. N PERSONAL PROBLEMS ON HIS PLATE TO DEAL WIT THAN THESE.. LIKE MOUNTED DEBTS N 50 SHOWS TO PERFORM WHICH WERE TOO PRESSURING FOR HIS AGE N MOST IMP THING IS HIS DEBTS.... TO BE FRANK MOST OF THE PEOPLE WERE LEAST INTERESTED IN HIM N HIS MUSIC , EXCEPT FANS LIKE US.... OUR POOR MICHAEL WAS COMPLETELY FADED N WAS CRITICIZED N RIDICULED BY EVERYBODY EXCEPT SOME... N WAS SURROUNDED BY DEBTS  FROM ALLSIDES... AFTER HIS SUDDEN DEATH ,PEOPLES INTEREST IN HIM WAS AWAKENED N REVIVED TOTALLY N EVERYONE STARED BUYING HIS STUFF N STARTED LOVING HIM AGAIN. KEEP WATCHING HIS ALBUMS, WILL BE SOLD LIKE HOT CAKES .... IM NOT SAYING THAT HE HAS CHEATED PEOPLE FOR HIS HIS OWN GAIN.... IFEEL HE WOULD NOT HAVE FOUND ANY OTHER WAY TO TO SKIP THOSE 50 CONCERTS IMEAN TICKETS FOR 50 SHOWS WERE SOLD WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE... ITHINK THERE IS NOTHING HE COULD HAVE DONE TO CANCEL 50 CONCERTS A HEAD OF HIM , WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS N AGE FACTOR . AFTER ALL HE IS A HUMAN BEING WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS N AGE FACTOR, HE IS NOT A SUPERNATURAL BEING... IF HE HAS HOAXED HIS DEATH FOR THESE TWO REASONS IWILL SUPPORT N L HIM CAUSE  I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR HIM TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS IN HIS LIFE... HE NEEDS TO REST N HEAL HIS HEART N BODY... IMEAN BY BEING ALIVE...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: paula-c on March 20, 2010, 05:45:07 PM
I definitely do not think Michael has done all this for money, nor do I think that was ruined, I think this is a very serious matter, and I also think that is exploiting the situation for her fans know how they work the media, corruption in the world, seems little any injustice suffered by?, .. Vendetta remember the movie look, I always am wondering now if somehow Michael participated in this film. 8-)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 20, 2010, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
I DON'T THINK MJ WOULD GET INTO ALL THIS...HE WOULD HAVE HAD OTHER REASONS TO HOAX HIS DEATH THAN THESE POLITICAL N ECONOMIC CAUSES...

Then tell me - what do YOU think Mike's reason was?  It's very simple to say "I don't think MJ would get into all this", but then I'd like you to tell me how you are interpreting the past 8.5 months and all we have seen and heard...  I'm awaiting your answer.
WELL NO ONE HERE KNOWS FOR SURE Y HE HAS HOAXED HIS DEATH N ALL WE DOING IS JUST GUESSES ... UR THEORY MIGHT SOUND SENSIBLE N MIGHT BE TRUE BUT HE HAS MORE IMP. N PERSONAL PROBLEMS ON HIS PLATE TO DEAL WIT THAN THESE.. LIKE MOUNTED DEBTS N 50 SHOWS TO PERFORM WHICH WERE TOO PRESSURING FOR HIS AGE N MOST IMP THING IS HIS DEBTS.... TO BE FRANK MOST OF THE PEOPLE WERE LEAST INTERESTED IN HIM N HIS MUSIC , EXCEPT FANS LIKE US.... OUR POOR MICHAEL WAS COMPLETELY FADED N WAS CRITICIZED N RIDICULED BY EVERYBODY EXCEPT SOME... N WAS SURROUNDED BY DEBTS  FROM ALLSIDES... AFTER HIS SUDDEN DEATH ,PEOPLES INTEREST IN HIM WAS AWAKENED N REVIVED TOTALLY N EVERYONE STARED BUYING HIS STUFF N STARTED LOVING HIM AGAIN. KEEP WATCHING HIS ALBUMS, WILL BE SOLD LIKE HOT CAKES .... IM NOT SAYING THAT HE HAS CHEATED PEOPLE FOR HIS HIS OWN GAIN.... IFEEL HE WOULD NOT HAVE FOUND ANY OTHER WAY TO TO SKIP THOSE 50 CONCERTS IMEAN TICKETS FOR 50 SHOWS WERE SOLD WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE... ITHINK THERE IS NOTHING HE COULD HAVE DONE TO CANCEL 50 CONCERTS A HEAD OF HIM , WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS N AGE FACTOR . AFTER ALL HE IS A HUMAN BEING WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS N AGE FACTOR, HE IS NOT A SUPERNATURAL BEING... IF HE HAS HOAXED HIS DEATH FOR THESE TWO REASONS IWILL SUPPORT N L HIM CAUSE  I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR HIM TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS IN HIS LIFE... HE NEEDS TO REST N HEAL HIS HEART N BODY... IMEAN BY BEING ALIVE...

Please drop the caps next time.

So according to you (a fan) he did this all for his own selfish reasons? Nah, not buying that...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: deepu priyanka on March 20, 2010, 06:15:12 PM
NO IWILL NOT DROP THE CAPS..... IAM NOT FORCING U TO BUY IT N IAM NOT GOING TO BUY YOURS TOO. I THINK WE ALL HAVE RIGHT OF SPEECH HERE..ITHINK WE CAN SPEAK WHAT WE THINK... N THAT IS Y EVERYONE R BROUGHT UNDER ONE ROOF HERE TO DISCUSS THEIR THEORIES N OPINIONS... IT CAN BE ANYTHING.. I NEVER MEANT THAT HE WAS SELFISH N IF THAT IS HOW U THINK I CAN NOT HELP... IT IS OK.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: whateverhappens on March 20, 2010, 06:20:12 PM
please

listen to an older song of mj
and then tell me that he has not been aware of the problems of our society

i think this will be difficult for you

why you wanne trip on me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qSfCjVk6Xc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qSfCjVk6Xc)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 20, 2010, 06:24:30 PM
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
NO IWILL NOT DROP THE CAPS..... IAM NOT FORCING U TO BUY IT N IAM NOT GOING TO BUY YOURS TOO. I THINK WE ALL HAVE RIGHT OF SPEECH HERE..ITHINK WE CAN SPEAK WHAT WE THINK... N THAT IS Y EVERYONE R BROUGHT UNDER ONE ROOF HERE TO DISCUSS THEIR THEORIES N OPINIONS... IT CAN BE ANYTHING.. I NEVER MEANT THAT HE WAS SELFISH N IF THAT IS HOW U THINK I CAN NOT HELP... IT IS OK.

Again, and I am asking nicely: Drop the caps please. You can have your own opinion, but no need to yell.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: deepu priyanka on March 20, 2010, 06:35:50 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
NO IWILL NOT DROP THE CAPS..... IAM NOT FORCING U TO BUY IT N IAM NOT GOING TO BUY YOURS TOO. I THINK WE ALL HAVE RIGHT OF SPEECH HERE..ITHINK WE CAN SPEAK WHAT WE THINK... N THAT IS Y EVERYONE R BROUGHT UNDER ONE ROOF HERE TO DISCUSS THEIR THEORIES N OPINIONS... IT CAN BE ANYTHING.. I NEVER MEANT THAT HE WAS SELFISH N IF THAT IS HOW U THINK I CAN NOT HELP... IT IS OK.

Again, and I am asking nicely: Drop the caps please. You can have your own opinion, but no need to yell.
LOOK IAM NOT YELLING OR SCREAMING ,THAT IS HOW I RIGHT .... N Y R U GETTING OFFENDED.... COOL , LET US DROP IT.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 20, 2010, 07:12:45 PM
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "deepu priyanka"
NO IWILL NOT DROP THE CAPS..... IAM NOT FORCING U TO BUY IT N IAM NOT GOING TO BUY YOURS TOO. I THINK WE ALL HAVE RIGHT OF SPEECH HERE..ITHINK WE CAN SPEAK WHAT WE THINK... N THAT IS Y EVERYONE R BROUGHT UNDER ONE ROOF HERE TO DISCUSS THEIR THEORIES N OPINIONS... IT CAN BE ANYTHING.. I NEVER MEANT THAT HE WAS SELFISH N IF THAT IS HOW U THINK I CAN NOT HELP... IT IS OK.

Again, and I am asking nicely: Drop the caps please. You can have your own opinion, but no need to yell.
LOOK IAM NOT YELLING OR SCREAMING ,THAT IS HOW I RIGHT .... N Y R U GETTING OFFENDED.... COOL , LET US DROP IT.

Last time: DROP THE DARN CAPS! I am not offended, I am seriously annoyed. There is no need for caps and it annoys people who try to read it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: paula-c on March 20, 2010, 07:34:18 PM
I do not think has done this for selfish reasons, really need to hear his songs again :geek:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: whateverhappens on March 20, 2010, 07:39:02 PM
this is also it

http://www.prisonplanet.com/gerald-cele ... oming.html (http://www.prisonplanet.com/gerald-celente-great-2010-crash-is-looming.html)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: paula-c on March 20, 2010, 08:29:23 PM
Forget whateverhappens, some people do not believe in these things  ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: whateverhappens on March 20, 2010, 08:34:12 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Forget whateverhappens, some people do not believe in these things  ;)

let us wait and see. please

 i am not keen on seeing this coming , but it cannot be denied
#inform yourself
the financials are going down
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: whateverhappens on March 20, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
here you can see a list
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/fai ... klist.html (http://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklist.html)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson's Message - Part 2
Post by: paula-c on March 20, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
If I understand you, what I mean is that there are people who think that this has nothing to do with deception ;)
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