Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: chrisman on March 13, 2010, 09:56:37 PM

Title: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: chrisman on March 13, 2010, 09:56:37 PM
Hey guys! I know this is a bit far out there, but It came to mind and I rather say something than keep it bottled up. Most of us know about tie's between Lady Gaga and MJ, such as him being quoted of liking her and saying how unique she was blah blah blah. We also know that Beyonce respected MJ enough to do a rendition of Halo for his passing, live at her concert. So recently Gaga and Beyonce teamed up to do a song, called Telephone. Besides the fact the video is 9 minutes long I didn't see much of anything pointing to MJ. But then theres the ending, Where Gaga says she wants to go "Far Far Away" Gee... doesnt that remind you of a certain song that was released after he 'died' "take me to a place without no name". Sure thats a pretty cliche line of escaping from the police, but cant a guy dream that the next part is gonna have all three?!!! :D :D

Here is the Video to Telephone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ95z6ywcBY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ95z6ywcBY) Judge for yourself, the ending part I described was 9:05

Reading back this sounds VERY far-fetched. Hope I'm not wasting your time. I'm out of idea's.

ALSO: the place with no name topic viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1061 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1061)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: letstalkagain on March 13, 2010, 09:59:22 PM
I am sorry but I think you are reaching , not everything is related to Michael.  Plus the video, is disgusting.  Lady Fruitcake really will do anythiong for fame!!!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: loveratheart4mj on March 13, 2010, 10:28:23 PM
You know i dont think that was reaching all tha far myself  ;)  Did you see Gaga do the MJ move as they released her from jail????  Beyonce says "do you promise we can go far far away and never come back????? hmmmmmmmm ....something to think about...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: lotus_sutra on March 13, 2010, 10:40:16 PM
Gaga posted this link on Twitter tonight, I guess she enjoyed their analysis  :D
http://onlywordstoplaywith.blogspot.com ... s-and.html (http://onlywordstoplaywith.blogspot.com/2010/03/lady-gagas-telephone-observations-and.html)

The blog is great and I think you should read it if you have a few minutes, here is a clip;

9.  Homage to Michael Jackson
Harq: All I noticed were the shoulder pads on Beyonce's pseudo-military jacket, which are obviously a big MJ signature.  Again we have our pick of meanings and significances: Beyonce is a new black monarch of popular music; the rampant appropriation, relocation, and juxtaposition of symbols characteristic of bricolage and postmodernism; or just the simple (and, honestly, probably unintentional) fun of using a military symbol as your locus of homage (which of course is a word that originally meant the swearing of oaths of fealty in feudal societies - oaths that often included a commitment to military service).

onlywordstoplaywith:  There's also Gaga's little MichaelJackson-esque dance move as she's let out of the prison.  OOOOH, and I just remembered!  She channels one of Madonna's many images during her dance sequence in the prison.  Isn't it interesting that the two artists she embodies or echoes in this prison segment are both the former King and current Queen of pop?!  So when Gaga is let out of prison, this may either imply the release of these two figures from some sort of cultural/social shackles as well, or else, this indicates that Gaga is kissing those former royals good bye.  Hmmmm.  I'm more inclined toward the latter interpretation.  That Michael Jackson and Madonna are always trying to express themselves or confess themselves out of the various prisons society has put them in (gender, racial, psychological, etc.), or perceive themselves as being caught in a prison of sorts, whereas Gaga is not a figure trying to escape a prison.  She creates her identity and performance, rather than releasing it.  And she's not making any fucking excuses for it.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: moonwalkontoes on March 13, 2010, 11:22:41 PM
Lady Gaga loves Michael:

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"How do I feel when Michael Jackson died? (pause) I don't know what world we're making music in anymore without Michael Jackson. But it really made me think about the thing that I hold very most dear to me and it's also the thing that I get... I get relentlessly challenged about which is my underdying love for show business. It's something that's very frowned upon, especially in American pop culture for musicians... the theatrics of it is something that has been dead for a long time. But Michael Jackson is the king of show business and I thought to myself - I can never change who I am. I've always gotta stay true to showbiz."

And we all know he loved her, too.  He would probably love Telephone.

Beyonce was good friends with him:

(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Editorial/090622/Michael_Jackson_Reaction/michael-jackson-reaction1.jpg)

(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/jun2009/4/3/image-16-for-gallery-michael-jackson-s-life-in-pictures-gallery-725325367.jpg)

(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/World+Music+Awards+2006+Show+0BHqnrhHgARl.jpg)

Diddy talks about how MJ came to a party because Beyonce was there, and danced with her all night.
[youtube:3fzfhxfb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EVofjQ-URQ[/youtube:3fzfhxfb]

She dedicated Halo to Mike at every show on her tour after June 25th.

4:22 onwards, she shows footage of her as a child about to go to the Bad tour, then she can't sing from crying:

[youtube:3fzfhxfb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw2KCsLR1xo[/youtube:3fzfhxfb]

As for Telephone, there's definitely MJ influences in it, but I don't think there's any clues.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: KINGdom52 on March 14, 2010, 06:11:35 AM
Last night I watched the "Telephone" only cause in the article was mentioned as
the new "THRILLER" and I was like  :shock:
Of  course they add that "THRILLER" is only one but maybe in some years from now , people will still talking about  "telephone" like they do for "THRILLER".
The only common thing that I notice is the duration.
I didn't like it at all, let alone the comparison .  :roll:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Solid121 on March 14, 2010, 08:20:07 AM
Don't forget the dance sequence in the diner after they've killed everybody, it's very similar to the Thriller steps  ;)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 14, 2010, 10:00:58 AM
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 14, 2010, 10:15:16 AM
I think they are exploiting him for personal gain, just like a lot of artists now.  But thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: virgo75 on March 14, 2010, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:


Agreed.
I think they were at some award functions at the same time & she presented him with a couple of awards.  
As Diddy said, he was at a party with her and danced with her but that doesn't make them "friends."
I think he found her attractive as a lot of people do, and wanted to dance with her.


Quote from: "nynyro"
I think they are exploiting him for personal gain, just like a lot of artists now. But thats just my opinion.

2nd this as well.
Where was the support before June 25th?
Were they talking about how much they loved him and he was so great, yada yada before they thought he was dead?

NO!   :roll:

Most of them maintained a comfortable distance.

On a professional level, who wouldn't want to be "big" enough to pull Michael Jackson into their recording studio or onto their stage?   :roll:
But on a personal level - how many of them spoke up for him or defended him as a human being and "friend?"

If he weren't "dead", neither Beyonce nor Gaga would be riding his balls like they are now...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: frogh777 on March 14, 2010, 10:37:49 AM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:
becuz she knew he is well and right alive!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 14, 2010, 11:01:02 AM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:


Agreed.
I think they were at some award functions at the same time & she presented him with a couple of awards.  
As Diddy said, he was at a party with her and danced with her but that doesn't make them "friends."
I think he found her attractive as a lot of people do, and wanted to dance with her.


Quote from: "nynyro"
I think they are exploiting him for personal gain, just like a lot of artists now. But thats just my opinion.

2nd this as well.
Where was the support before June 25th?
Were they talking about how much they loved him and he was so great, yada yada before they thought he was dead?

NO!   :roll:

Most of them maintained a comfortable distance.

On a professional level, who wouldn't want to be "big" enough to pull Michael Jackson into their recording studio or onto their stage?   :roll:
But on a personal level - how many of them spoke up for him or defended him as a human being and "friend?"

If he weren't "dead", neither Beyonce nor Gaga would be riding his balls like they are now...

I hate the fake MJ adoration BS... I have a good sensing of a person's character usually within an hour of knowing them... if only MJ was around to say who his real friends were  :(
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Doctor Death on March 14, 2010, 01:23:24 PM
If Michael is really dead, then all these events are really unfortunate.....

The thing that I feel bad about is that the people who had known him since his heydays couldnt care less about him during his last years....and all of  a sudden----

WE HAVE THESE SELF PROCLAIMED MICHAEL JACKSON DISCIPLES GOING AROUND PROFESSING THEIR LOVE FOR HIM AS HE WAS A PART OF THEIR FAMILY......

NONE OF THEM HAD THE BALLS TO COME FORWARD AND SUPPORT HIM DURING HIS BAD DAYS.....

HIS OWN COMMUNITY FIRST BETRAYED HIM....AND NOW THEY ARE EXPLOITING HIM....

F@#CKING MORONS.....THE WHOLE LOTTA THEM.... :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

THEY ARE NOTHINGLESS THAN GRAVE ROBBERS....TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING OUT OF A DEAD MAN.... :evil:  :evil:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 14, 2010, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: Doctor Death

The thing that I feel bad about is that the people who had known him since his heydays couldnt care less about him during his last years....

what a lonely feeling to bear! poor thing!  :cry:  :cry:  :|
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 14, 2010, 03:35:16 PM
CNN just announced that MTV has now banned the Beyonce/Lady Ga Ga video. If it weren't for youtube the vid might fade into oblivion. It will be interesting to see how long it stays on youtube. Will they buckle under pressure?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: KINGdom52 on March 14, 2010, 03:55:25 PM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
CNN just announced that MTV has now banned the Beyonce/Lady Ga Ga video. If it weren't for youtube the vid might fade into oblivion.

Really ? :lol:
The new 'Thriller" , right ! :roll:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 14, 2010, 05:49:47 PM
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
CNN just announced that MTV has now banned the Beyonce/Lady Ga Ga video. If it weren't for youtube the vid might fade into oblivion.

Really ? :lol:
The new 'Thriller" , right ! :roll:

I don't remember thriller getting banned, just shortened

why are they banning the vid? is it the poisoning part? that is the last thing these kids need to copy off bey-bey and ga-ga
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 14, 2010, 06:06:43 PM
The sexual references were pretty hardcore and so was some of the dialogue. They would have had to bleep a lot of that vid to air it. Lady Ga Ga looked right at home in the vid but Beyonce looked like a fish out of water. She has sunk pretty low in this vid.

Quote from: "this1crazygirl"
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
CNN just announced that MTV has now banned the Beyonce/Lady Ga Ga video. If it weren't for youtube the vid might fade into oblivion.

Really ? :lol:
The new 'Thriller" , right ! :roll:

I don't remember thriller getting banned, just shortened

why are they banning the vid? is it the poisoning part? that is the last thing these kids need to copy off bey-bey and ga-ga
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 14, 2010, 06:09:30 PM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
The sexual references were pretty hardcore and so was some of the dialogue. They would have had to bleep a lot of that vid to air it. Lady Ga Ga looked right at home in the vid but Beyonce looked like a fish out of water. She has sunk pretty low in this vid.

Quote from: "this1crazygirl"
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
CNN just announced that MTV has now banned the Beyonce/Lady Ga Ga video. If it weren't for youtube the vid might fade into oblivion.

Really ? :lol:
The new 'Thriller" , right ! :roll:

I don't remember thriller getting banned, just shortened

why are they banning the vid? is it the poisoning part? that is the last thing these kids need to copy off bey-bey and ga-ga

wow
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 14, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
Quote from: "nynyro"
I think they are exploiting him for personal gain, just like a lot of artists now.  But thats just my opinion.

I agree
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 14, 2010, 06:17:29 PM
The vid is on this thread. You saw it, right?  

American tv is still pretty squeamish about gays. The opening scene showing rough lesbian guards and inmates in the jail would instantly have upset people and encouraged them to call MTV with complaints. Plus the dialogue included... Guard #1 - "See I told you she didn't have a d**k." Guard #2 - " Too bad". That would have never made it past censors.

Quote from: "this1crazygirl"
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
The sexual references were pretty hardcore and so was some of the dialogue. They would have had to bleep a lot of that vid to air it. Lady Ga Ga looked right at home in the vid but Beyonce looked like a fish out of water. She has sunk pretty low in this vid.

Quote from: "this1crazygirl"
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
CNN just announced that MTV has now banned the Beyonce/Lady Ga Ga video. If it weren't for youtube the vid might fade into oblivion.

Really ? :lol:
The new 'Thriller" , right ! :roll:

I don't remember thriller getting banned, just shortened

why are they banning the vid? is it the poisoning part? that is the last thing these kids need to copy off bey-bey and ga-ga

wow
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 14, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
videos turn me off as of lately. I really don't care to see it anyway
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: teine21 on March 14, 2010, 06:33:26 PM
Hmm maybe they banned it because kids listen to Lady Gaga & first of all in the video she's in a prison making out with people, the lady rubs her crotch, then they throw her in the cell & tear off her clothes & she jumps on with her blurred crotch in the camera, then she's dancing around with her ass hanging out, then the whole poisoning people thing...that's just some ideas to why her weird, psycho video got banned. LOL. I did see some MJ stuff though, but I don't see them as clues more as Gaga & B being inspired by him & tributing him in their own way. Beyonce's military style leotard, jacket suit thingy, whatever hahaha the shoulders & sequins were definitely MJ inspired, & some of the dance moves, that's about it. I'm not sure Gaga is an illuminati puppet, I think she shows images in her videos & concerts about mind control in the business & at the Grammy's I think she was showing how they want to control her. Just my opinion & Beyonce may be inspired to do things from her husband or Gaga or whoever but I don't think she'd be out there constantly talking about how she'd be nothing if it weren't for MJ, when he so freely spoke out against thee illuminati in the music industry & supposedly Jay Z is one of them per say. I think he'd muzzle her if he was. He does have some kind of connection or fascination to th illuminati though = Sorry off topic but someone has called Gaga an illuminati puppet so thought I'd give my 2 cents.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: grayshki on March 14, 2010, 08:02:03 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:
Actually their far from illuminati puppets. If u paid attention, they're "outing" the illuminati quite blatantly. The message of this video is that those elite are keeping us in max security prison  (we think we're free and cool). We can't tell the difference between boys and girls anymore . Everywhere u go, read, and see , there's ads for diet coke, cigs, junk food, coz that's "cool", and it's their plan to destroy us. when she wears the yellow police tape , it signifies they're committing crimes against us, humanity. We're victims of their manipulation. They "poison" our food (diner-ppl dying), our minds. The "elite" are ultimately our  pimps . hence why they killed the "pimp" in the diner (notice his expensive clothing). It's their way of saying "u have no control over us--we're free and u'll never have control coz we're exposing the truth ( meaning of sentence "far away and never come back"  Never coming back to THEM)"

The colors black and white were used (illuminati) Pyramid earring in one of the girls...    They're telling us about the illuminati and what they're doing.

These are just a few points. There are more

gaga made it deliberately look disgusting for a purpose---to shock us into seeing the truth
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: lisa1232 on March 14, 2010, 08:59:19 PM
Haha , Yea i bet he tapped that . beyonce and him had late night phone calls right?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: moonwalkontoes on March 14, 2010, 09:53:01 PM
For starters, this whole MTV discussion is silly considering Michael wasn't originally going to get any airplay either because he was black.  

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If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?

She was on tour at the time.

Quote
I think they are exploiting him for personal gain, just like a lot of artists now. But thats just my opinion.

God, not everyone who mentions him is out to get him.  They only ever say nice things of him so what's the big deal?  

Once again, he's a big fan of BOTH Gaga and Beyonce.

Quote
But on a personal level - how many of them spoke up for him or defended him as a human being and "friend?"

GaGa wasn't famous back when he needed defending and I don't know if Beyonce said anything.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: darkchild on March 14, 2010, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
Lady Gaga loves Michael:

Quote
"How do I feel when Michael Jackson died? (pause) I don't know what world we're making music in anymore without Michael Jackson. But it really made me think about the thing that I hold very most dear to me and it's also the thing that I get... I get relentlessly challenged about which is my underdying love for show business. It's something that's very frowned upon, especially in American pop culture for musicians... the theatrics of it is something that has been dead for a long time. But Michael Jackson is the king of show business and I thought to myself - I can never change who I am. I've always gotta stay true to showbiz."

And we all know he loved her, too. He would probably love Telephone.

Beyonce was good friends with him:

(http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Editorial/090622/Michael_Jackson_Reaction/michael-jackson-reaction1.jpg)

(http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/jun2009/4/3/image-16-for-gallery-michael-jackson-s-life-in-pictures-gallery-725325367.jpg)

(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/World+Music+Awards+2006+Show+0BHqnrhHgARl.jpg)

Diddy talks about how MJ came to a party because Beyonce was there, and danced with her all night.
[youtube:23y6vry1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EVofjQ-URQ[/youtube:23y6vry1]

She dedicated Halo to Mike at every show on her tour after June 25th.

4:22 onwards, she shows footage of her as a child about to go to the Bad tour, then she can't sing from crying:

[youtube:23y6vry1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw2KCsLR1xo[/youtube:23y6vry1]

As for Telephone, there's definitely MJ influences in it, but I don't think there's any clues.

MJ and Beyonce would have made a beautiful couple.  They look so happy together. :)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 15, 2010, 07:56:05 AM
Quote from: "moonwalkontoes"
For starters, this whole MTV discussion is silly considering Michael wasn't originally going to get any airplay either because he was black.  

Quote
If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?

She was on tour at the time.

Quote
I think they are exploiting him for personal gain, just like a lot of artists now. But thats just my opinion.

God, not everyone who mentions him is out to get him.  They only ever say nice things of him so what's the big deal?  

Once again, he's a big fan of BOTH Gaga and Beyonce.

Quote
But on a personal level - how many of them spoke up for him or defended him as a human being and "friend?"

GaGa wasn't famous back when he needed defending and I don't know if Beyonce said anything.

Everyone only says nice things about him now....  I think it's great when people want to pay tribute,it's just that  something about some of it seems to lack genuineness.   I'm sure Beyonce is an uber-fan, but what did she have to say during the trial?  Nothing.  He was too controversial a figure back then, so she stayed away.   She admires him as an artist, but being a fan of someone's  music is different from being their friend.  As far as Lady Gaga goes, maybe he would like her music because she's edgy or maybe not because she's vulgar in a lot of ways.  He's not here to answer that question, so you shouldn't assume that he would've liked the music they have out now.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: looking4truth on March 15, 2010, 09:57:01 AM
Quote from: "grayshki"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:
Actually their far from illuminati puppets. If u paid attention, they're "outing" the illuminati quite blatantly. The message of this video is that those elite are keeping us in max security prison  (we think we're free and cool). We can't tell the difference between boys and girls anymore . Everywhere u go, read, and see , there's ads for diet coke, cigs, junk food, coz that's "cool", and it's their plan to destroy us. when she wears the yellow police tape , it signifies they're committing crimes against us, humanity. We're victims of their manipulation. They "poison" our food (diner-ppl dying), our minds. The "elite" are ultimately our  pimps . hence why they killed the "pimp" in the diner (notice his expensive clothing). It's their way of saying "u have no control over us--we're free and u'll never have control coz we're exposing the truth ( meaning of sentence "far away and never come back"  Never coming back to THEM)"

The colors black and white were used (illuminati) Pyramid earring in one of the girls...    They're telling us about the illuminati and what they're doing.

These are just a few points. There are more

gaga made it deliberately look disgusting for a purpose---to shock us into seeing the truth

I agree 100%. I think she is very clever when it comes to her message delivery. From first glance, it looks like she is a puppet but if you look closer into it, she seems to make a lot of social commentary about a variety of topics.

And as far as people saying it's disgusting, I think it is supposed to shock you and disgust you because she is only projecting what the media and others has been putting to children and the masses for years now. She is just doing it in a very bold way. They do it in more subtle ways.

I also think Lady Gaga's whole persona is meant to be a sarcastic take on the celebrity puppet.

I could be totally wrong but it is interesting how obvious these messages are getting in the videos lately.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 15, 2010, 10:27:02 AM
Quote from: "looking4truth"

I agree 100%. I think she is very clever when it comes to her message delivery. From first glance, it looks like she is a puppet but if you look closer into it, she seems to make a lot of social commentary about a variety of topics.

And as far as people saying it's disgusting, I think it is supposed to shock you and disgust you because she is only projecting what the media and others has been putting to children and the masses for years now. She is just doing it in a very bold way. They do it in more subtle ways.

I also think Lady Gaga's whole persona is meant to be a sarcastic take on the celebrity puppet.

I could be totally wrong but it is interesting how obvious these messages are getting in the videos lately.

 I hope you're right about her act being sarcastic, somehow I'm not so sure.  She seems to have almost universal support from corporations and the media, if she was against them why are they so supportive of her.  Maybe they haven't gotten the joke yet???  :?:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: looking4truth on March 15, 2010, 10:47:36 AM
Quote from: "nynyro"

 I hope you're right about her act being sarcastic, somehow I'm not so sure.  She seems to have almost universal support from corporations and the media, if she was against them why are they so supportive of her.  Maybe they haven't gotten the joke yet???  :?:

I hope so for her sake. I used to be weary of her and I still am at times but I saw a few interviews with her and she is very intelligent. I think she may have masterminded this whole thing from the very beginning. And more specifically, in the video, I couldn't ignore the reference to poison in people's food because I noticed that everyone kept eating the food even after coughing. It seems to be a direct metaphor to the gluttony in Western societies. It also seems to be in reference to the media glorifying poisons everyday with tons of commercials for medicine, high fattening foods, overt sexuality to the extreme, etc. It's a very interesting video once bypass the obvious.

I didn't even notice all the potential metaphors that grayshki pointed out so I may watch it again and see what else I pick up on. I did notice the "okay" hand symbol (which could mean 666), the black and white and the obvious lesbian overtones (which could possibly be pointing out to the exploitation of homosexuality/bisexuality in the media...not sure though at all on that one).
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 15, 2010, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
You know i dont think that was reaching all tha far myself  ;)  Did you see Gaga do the MJ move as they released her from jail????  Beyonce says "do you promise we can go far far away and never come back????? hmmmmmmmm ....something to think about...

wot a weird thing to say at the end promise not to come back shed no that anyway to hide from police and mj moves when out of jail represent mj after he was free i rekon i do think that ending is about him but corse not every one wud see that except us!! ;)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 15, 2010, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: "grayshki"
Actually their far from illuminati puppets. If u paid attention, they're "outing" the illuminati quite blatantly. The message of this video is that those elite are keeping us in max security prison  (we think we're free and cool). We can't tell the difference between boys and girls anymore . Everywhere u go, read, and see , there's ads for diet coke, cigs, junk food, coz that's "cool", and it's their plan to destroy us. when she wears the yellow police tape , it signifies they're committing crimes against us, humanity. We're victims of their manipulation. They "poison" our food (diner-ppl dying), our minds. The "elite" are ultimately our  pimps . hence why they killed the "pimp" in the diner (notice his expensive clothing). It's their way of saying "u have no control over us--we're free and u'll never have control coz we're exposing the truth ( meaning of sentence "far away and never come back"  Never coming back to THEM)"

The colors black and white were used (illuminati) Pyramid earring in one of the girls...    They're telling us about the illuminati and what they're doing.

These are just a few points. There are more

gaga made it deliberately look disgusting for a purpose---to shock us into seeing the truth

I am aware of all the points you just mentioned. And if you paid attention you would've noticed that the music industry is a huge part of the nwo. Are you really trying to say that those 'artists' are 'warning' us?  :lol:
They're just a big part of it. Why do you think the illuminati use their symbols in music videos and movies? It's all so we would say that "it's just something out of movies".

Lady gaga and Beyonce flashing their crotches in videos, promoting killing, promoting the all seeing eye and the baphomets horns isn't really a way to lead us to the truth. So please wake up!

Quote from: "looking4truth"
I agree 100%. I think she is very clever when it comes to her message delivery. From first glance, it looks like she is a puppet but if you look closer into it, she seems to make a lot of social commentary about a variety of topics.

And as far as people saying it's disgusting, I think it is supposed to shock you and disgust you because she is only projecting what the media and others has been putting to children and the masses for years now. She is just doing it in a very bold way. They do it in more subtle ways.

I also think Lady Gaga's whole persona is meant to be a sarcastic take on the celebrity puppet.

I could be totally wrong but it is interesting how obvious these messages are getting in the videos lately.

She doesn't only look like a puppet; she is. And she very well aware of it.

And how does she make those "social commentary about a variety of topics"? By promoting nudity, violence, scary occult symbols? Oh give me a break!

The target group of these so called artists are children. Do we really want these kind people to have any kind of effect on our kids? Don't think so. I sure wouldn't.

Has it ever occured to you that this kind of 'artists', music and musicvideos are simply a part of the agenda?

Just check out this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656)

Or watch 'The industry exposed' on youtube.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Believe 777 on March 15, 2010, 03:45:18 PM
I'm so pleased I am no longer the only one here who believes that Gaga and Beyonce are exposing the Illuminati.There is a very divided opinion here and we will believe what we see as the truth, the message is blatant which ever side of the fence you're on.People are waking up in general and have been for a long time. It's only logical that those who are in the public eye and have been used as puppets are going to wake up first and join forces against them.

I know it's hard to see why this video needs to be so shocking, but the world needs to be shocked into seeing and researching the truth and whatever you believe these artists agenda to be, we are united in seeing the truth about the Illuminati. I'd say the message is being received and understood far more now due to people being shocked by Gaga in particular. More will be urged to find out more, even if it is out of disgust.

I don't think TMZ would choose to post this article for any seemingly random reason.

They're just saying!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 15, 2010, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: "Believe 777"
I'm so pleased I am no longer the only one here who believes that Gaga and Beyonce are exposing the Illuminati.There is a very divided opinion here and we will believe what we see as the truth, the message is blatant which ever side of the fence you're on.People are waking up in general and have been for a long time. It's only logical that those who are in the public eye and have been used as puppets are going to wake up first and join forces against them.

I know it's hard to see why this video needs to be so shocking, but the world needs to be shocked into seeing and researching the truth and whatever you believe these artists agenda to be, we are united in seeing the truth about the Illuminati. I'd say the message is being received and understood far more now due to people being shocked by Gaga in particular. More will be urged to find out more, even if it is out of disgust.

I don't think TMZ would choose to post this article for any seemingly random reason.

They're just saying!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/)

I hope you're joking.

Just use your common sense:

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/AnubisLadygaga.jpg)

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Screen-shot-2009-11-10-at-9.20.32-PM.png)

http://marcoponce.com/2009/11/lady-gaga-is-a-witch/ (http://marcoponce.com/2009/11/lady-gaga-is-a-witch/)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 15, 2010, 04:07:40 PM
hmm... I have noticed alot of artists acting "witch-like"...

WOW
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 15, 2010, 04:07:43 PM
http://marcoponce.com/2009/11/beyonce-is-a-witch/ (http://marcoponce.com/2009/11/beyonce-is-a-witch/)

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1Screen-shot-2009-11-17-at-12.01.26-AM1.png)

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Screen-shot-2009-11-17-at-3.55.06-AM.png)

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Screen-shot-2009-11-17-at-4.01.21-AM.png)

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/article-1090014-029E747D000005DC-393_468x415.jpg)

(http://marcoponce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jayz4.jpg)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: frogh777 on March 15, 2010, 05:31:41 PM
Damn Byonce, I used to like her...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 15, 2010, 05:43:15 PM
Quote from: "Believe 777"
I'm so pleased I am no longer the only one here who believes that Gaga and Beyonce are exposing the Illuminati.There is a very divided opinion here and we will believe what we see as the truth, the message is blatant which ever side of the fence you're on.People are waking up in general and have been for a long time. It's only logical that those who are in the public eye and have been used as puppets are going to wake up first and join forces against them.

I know it's hard to see why this video needs to be so shocking, but the world needs to be shocked into seeing and researching the truth and whatever you believe these artists agenda to be, we are united in seeing the truth about the Illuminati. I'd say the message is being received and understood far more now due to people being shocked by Gaga in particular. More will be urged to find out more, even if it is out of disgust.

I don't think TMZ would choose to post this article for any seemingly random reason.

They're just saying!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/)

Thank you. I'm pretty open minded, but I don't understand how she would be able to expose and "warn" people when she sings things like:
"Got no salvation
Got no religion
My religion is you
Take a bite of my bad girl meat
Take a bit of me boy
Show me your teeth
I'm a tough bitch"

Little kids are listening to her music. This is just too much.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Believe 777 on March 15, 2010, 06:43:23 PM
Quote from: "nynyro"
Quote from: "Believe 777"
I'm so pleased I am no longer the only one here who believes that Gaga and Beyonce are exposing the Illuminati.There is a very divided opinion here and we will believe what we see as the truth, the message is blatant which ever side of the fence you're on.People are waking up in general and have been for a long time. It's only logical that those who are in the public eye and have been used as puppets are going to wake up first and join forces against them.

I know it's hard to see why this video needs to be so shocking, but the world needs to be shocked into seeing and researching the truth and whatever you believe these artists agenda to be, we are united in seeing the truth about the Illuminati. I'd say the message is being received and understood far more now due to people being shocked by Gaga in particular. More will be urged to find out more, even if it is out of disgust.

I don't think TMZ would choose to post this article for any seemingly random reason.

They're just saying!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/14/lady-gaga-whos-that-girl/)

Thank you. I'm pretty open minded, but I don't understand how she would be able to expose and "warn" people when she sings things like:
"Got no salvation
Got no religion
My religion is you
Take a bite of my bad girl meat
Take a bit of me boy
Show me your teeth
I'm a tough bitch"

Little kids are listening to her music. This is just too much.

The difficulty comes when things like lyrics and imagery can be interpreted in different ways. It all means different things to different people. I don't like the lyrics to this song but I also don't know who these lyrics are aimed at ie, Illuminati or fans. Only the writer knows the true meaning behind their lyrics. I agree, I don't like the idea of kids hearing it, maybe it's for the adults to hear and be shocked at what our kids are listening to. I just keep watching to see what happens next, and where this is heading. Whatever it is doing it is pointing directly to the Illuminati, which is the point, I guess.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: mjfansince4 on March 15, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
hmm hmm hmmm. okay don't hate me! but i like lady gaga. and i like beyonce. and we all know michael liked beyonce ;) .

i found this article
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphop ... lady-gaga/ (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/240205/michael-jackson-wanted-to-work-with-lady-gaga/)

michael wanted lady gaga to join the TII tour. this could be looked at 3 different ways:
1. this is bullshit
2. michael wanted her to join the TII tour to talk her into getting out this Illuminati stronghold?
3. michael wanted to show the illuminati that the King of Pop and the newest music sensation are joined together and they should be worried?

sorry, i truly respect everyone's opinion. i think everyone is entitled to their own views and that's what makes the world great, individuality and free thinking. my take on this whole michael/lady gaga/beyonce? He liked beyonce, he liked lady gaga....they did a "shocking" music video that has illuminati symbols galore...maybe they're 2 other people speaking for michael since he physically can't now? His songs were obviously directed to someone (whether you believe in the illuminati or not), maybe their (b and gaga's) songs are a continuation of that? I think both lady gaga and beyonce are strong, independent women who don't put up with bullshit. whether that's a public front, i don't know. like i said, my opinion.  :?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Believe 777 on March 15, 2010, 07:14:55 PM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
hmm hmm hmmm. okay don't hate me! but i like lady gaga. and i like beyonce. and we all know michael liked beyonce ;) .

i found this article
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphop ... lady-gaga/ (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/240205/michael-jackson-wanted-to-work-with-lady-gaga/)

michael wanted lady gaga to join the TII tour. this could be looked at 3 different ways:
1. this is bullshit
2. michael wanted her to join the TII tour to talk her into getting out this Illuminati stronghold?
3. michael wanted to show the illuminati that the King of Pop and the newest music sensation are joined together and they should be worried?

sorry, i truly respect everyone's opinion. i think everyone is entitled to their own views and that's what makes the world great, individuality and free thinking. my take on this whole michael/lady gaga/beyonce? He liked beyonce, he liked lady gaga....they did a "shocking" music video that has illuminati symbols galore...maybe they're 2 other people speaking for michael since he physically can't now? His songs were obviously directed to someone (whether you believe in the illuminati or not), maybe their (b and gaga's) songs are a continuation of that? I think both lady gaga and beyonce are strong, independent women who don't put up with bullshit. whether that's a public front, i don't know. like i said, my opinion.  :?

I like your logical thinking. Maybe they are on the TII tour now, as this does seem to be a project with many angles.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 15, 2010, 07:16:01 PM
:|


This are lyrics of making people aware of the nwo/illuminati:

Quote
SHOUT

Verse
Ignorance of people purchasing diamonds and necklaces,
And barely able to keep the payments up on their lessons,
And enrolled in a class and don't know who the professor is,
How low people go for the dough and make a mess of things,
Kids are murdering other kids for the fun of it,
Instead of using their mind or their fist, they put a gun in it
Wanna be a part of a clique, don't know who's running it,
Tragedy on top of tragedy you know it's killing me.
So many people in agony, this shouldn't have to be,
Too busy focusing on ourselves and not His Majesty,
There has to be some type of change for this day and age,
We gotta rearrange and flip the page,
Living encaged like animals and cannibals,
Eating each other alive just to survive the nine to five,
Every single day is trouble while we struggle and strive
Peace of mind's so hard to find.

Chorus
I wanna shout, throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout
You know it makes me wanna shout,
Throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout, c'mon now

Verse 2
Problems, complications and accusations
Dividing the nations and races of empty faces
A war is taking place.
No substitution for restitution, the only solution for peace
Is increasing the height of your spirituality.
Masses of minds are shrouded, clouded visions
Deceptions and indecision, no faith or religion, how we're living.
The clock is ticking, the end is coming, there'll be no warning,
But we live to see the dawn.

Bridge
How can we preach, when all we make this world to be
Is a living hell torturing our minds.
We all must unite, to turn darkness to light,
And the love in our hearts will shine.

Verse 3
We're disconnected from love, we're disrespecting each other
Whatever happened to protecting each other
Poisoned your body and your soul for a minute of pleasure,
But the damage that you've done is gonna last forever.
Babies being born in the world already drug addicted and afflicted,
Family values are contradicted.
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust, the pressure is building and I've had enough.

Quote
"They Don't Care About Us"

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, aggravation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Bang bang, shot dead
Everybody's gone mad

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me
Don't you black or white me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my life
I have a wife and two children who love me
I am the victim of police brutality, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of hate
You're rapin' me of my pride
Oh, for God's sake
I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy...
Set me free

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
trepidation, speculation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
black man, black male
Throw your brother in jail

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I came
You know I do really hate to say it
The government don't wanna see
But if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, speculation
Everybody litigation
Beat me, bash me
You can never trash me
Hit me, kick me
You can never get me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Some things in life they just don't wanna see
But if Martin Luther was livin'
He wouldn't let this be

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, segregation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Kick me, strike me
Don't you wrong or right me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us


Quote
"Tabloid Junkie"

Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory

It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual

In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory

It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual

Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable



Quote

We've Had Enough

Love was taken from a young life
And no one told her why
Her direction has a dimlight
From one more violent crime

She innocently questioned why
Why her father had to die
She asked the men in blue
How is it that you get to choose
Who will live and who will die
Did god say that you could decide ?
You saw he didn't run
And that my daddy had no gun

In the middle of a village
Way in a distant land
Lies a poor boy with his broken toy
Too young to understand

He's awaken, ground is shakin
His father grabs his hand
Screaming, crying, his wife's dying
Now he's left to explain

He innocently questioned why
Why his mother had to die
What did these soldiers come here for ?
If they're for peace, why is there war ?

Did God say that they could decide
Who will live and who will die ?
All my mama ever did
Was try to take care of her kids

We're innocently standing by
Watching people lose their lives
It seems as if we have no voice
It's time for us to make a choice

Only god could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't take it
We've already had enough

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us

We can't take it
We've already had enough

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from you baby

We can't take it
We've already had enough

Deep in my soul baby

Deep in your soul and let God decide

Deep in my soul

It's up to me and i'm still alive

They've gotta hear it from us

We can't take it
We've already had enough

It's going down baby
Just let God decide,

It's going on baby
Just let God decide

Deep in my soul baby

We've already had enough

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us

We can't, we can't
We've already had enough

Quote
"Money"

Money.
Money...
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dareThe thrill for the money
Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers
If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think soIf you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him
You'll do anything for money
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil


And NOT:

Quote
Let's have some fun,
This beat is sick
I wanna take a ride on your disco stick

Quote
I need it all
The money the fame the cars the clothes
I can’t just let you run up on me like that (all up on me like that) yeah

Quote
Them hustlas like my fashion (You wanna video me?)
They like the way I'm walkin' (You like what you see?)
You sayin' that you want me (Go on and video me)
So press record, I'll let you film me

Quote
I asked my girlfriend if she'd seen you round before
She mumbled something while we got down on the floor baby
We might've fucked not really sure, don't quite recall
But something tells me that I've seen him, yeah
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 15, 2010, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
:|


This are lyrics of making people aware of the nwo/illuminati:

Quote
SHOUT

Verse
Ignorance of people purchasing diamonds and necklaces,
And barely able to keep the payments up on their lessons,
And enrolled in a class and don't know who the professor is,
How low people go for the dough and make a mess of things,
Kids are murdering other kids for the fun of it,
Instead of using their mind or their fist, they put a gun in it
Wanna be a part of a clique, don't know who's running it,
Tragedy on top of tragedy you know it's killing me.
So many people in agony, this shouldn't have to be,
Too busy focusing on ourselves and not His Majesty,
There has to be some type of change for this day and age,
We gotta rearrange and flip the page,
Living encaged like animals and cannibals,
Eating each other alive just to survive the nine to five,
Every single day is trouble while we struggle and strive
Peace of mind's so hard to find.

Chorus
I wanna shout, throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout
You know it makes me wanna shout,
Throw my hands up and shout
What's this madness all about
All this makes me wanna shout, c'mon now

Verse 2
Problems, complications and accusations
Dividing the nations and races of empty faces
A war is taking place.
No substitution for restitution, the only solution for peace
Is increasing the height of your spirituality.
Masses of minds are shrouded, clouded visions
Deceptions and indecision, no faith or religion, how we're living.
The clock is ticking, the end is coming, there'll be no warning,
But we live to see the dawn.

Bridge
How can we preach, when all we make this world to be
Is a living hell torturing our minds.
We all must unite, to turn darkness to light,
And the love in our hearts will shine.

Verse 3
We're disconnected from love, we're disrespecting each other
Whatever happened to protecting each other
Poisoned your body and your soul for a minute of pleasure,
But the damage that you've done is gonna last forever.
Babies being born in the world already drug addicted and afflicted,
Family values are contradicted.
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust, the pressure is building and I've had enough.

Quote
"They Don't Care About Us"

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, aggravation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Bang bang, shot dead
Everybody's gone mad

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
Jew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me
Don't you black or white me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my life
I have a wife and two children who love me
I am the victim of police brutality, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of hate
You're rapin' me of my pride
Oh, for God's sake
I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy...
Set me free

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
trepidation, speculation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
black man, black male
Throw your brother in jail

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I came
You know I do really hate to say it
The government don't wanna see
But if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, speculation
Everybody litigation
Beat me, bash me
You can never trash me
Hit me, kick me
You can never get me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Some things in life they just don't wanna see
But if Martin Luther was livin'
He wouldn't let this be

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, segregation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Kick me, strike me
Don't you wrong or right me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us


Quote
"Tabloid Junkie"

Speculate to break the one you hate
Circulate the lie you confiscate
Assassinate and mutilate
As the hounding media in hysteria
Who's the next for you to resurrect
JFK exposed the CIA
Truth be told the grassy knoll
As the blackmail story in all your glory

It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
They say he's homosexual

In the hood
Frame him if you could
Shoot to kill
To blame him if you will
If he dies sympathize
Such false witnesses
Damn self righteousness
In the black
Stab me in the back
In the face
To lie and shame the race
Heroine and Marilyn
As the headline stories of
All your glory

It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
She's blonde and she's bisexual

Scandal
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Slander
You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to read all about it

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual, actual
You're so damn disrespectable



Quote

We've Had Enough

Love was taken from a young life
And no one told her why
Her direction has a dimlight
From one more violent crime

She innocently questioned why
Why her father had to die
She asked the men in blue
How is it that you get to choose
Who will live and who will die
Did god say that you could decide ?
You saw he didn't run
And that my daddy had no gun

In the middle of a village
Way in a distant land
Lies a poor boy with his broken toy
Too young to understand

He's awaken, ground is shakin
His father grabs his hand
Screaming, crying, his wife's dying
Now he's left to explain

He innocently questioned why
Why his mother had to die
What did these soldiers come here for ?
If they're for peace, why is there war ?

Did God say that they could decide
Who will live and who will die ?
All my mama ever did
Was try to take care of her kids

We're innocently standing by
Watching people lose their lives
It seems as if we have no voice
It's time for us to make a choice

Only god could decide
Who will live and who will die
There's nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us
We can't take it
We've already had enough

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us

We can't take it
We've already had enough

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from you baby

We can't take it
We've already had enough

Deep in my soul baby

Deep in your soul and let God decide

Deep in my soul

It's up to me and i'm still alive

They've gotta hear it from us

We can't take it
We've already had enough

It's going down baby
Just let God decide,

It's going on baby
Just let God decide

Deep in my soul baby

We've already had enough

They've gotta hear it from me
They've gotta hear it from you
They've gotta hear it from us

We can't, we can't
We've already had enough

Quote
"Money"

Money.
Money...
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
Do or dare
The thrill for the money
You're saluting the flag
Your country trusts you
Now you're wearing a badge
You're called the "Just Few"
And you're fighting the wars
A soldier must do
I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Insurance?
Where do your loyalties lie?
Is that your alibi?
I don't think so
You don't care
You'd do her for the money
Say it's fair
You sue her for the money
Want your pot of gold
Need the Midas touch
Bet you sell your soul
Cuz your God is such
You don't care
You kill for the money
Do or dareThe thrill for the money
Are you infected with the same disease
Of lust, gluttoney and greed?
Then watch the ones
With the biggest smiles
The idle jabbers...Cuz they're the backstabbers
If you know it's a lie
Then you will swear it
If you give it with guilt
Then you will bear it
If it's taking a chance
Then you will dare it
You'll do anything for money...
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
You say you wouldn't do it
For all the money in the world
I don't think soIf you show me the man
Then I will sell him
If you ask me to lie
Then I will tell him
If you're dealing with God
Then you will hell him
You'll do anything for money
Anything
Anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil
Even sell my soul to the devil


And NOT:

Quote
Let's have some fun,
This beat is sick
I wanna take a ride on your disco stick

Quote
I need it all
The money the fame the cars the clothes
I can’t just let you run up on me like that (all up on me like that) yeah

Quote
Them hustlas like my fashion (You wanna video me?)
They like the way I'm walkin' (You like what you see?)
You sayin' that you want me (Go on and video me)
So press record, I'll let you film me

Quote
I asked my girlfriend if she'd seen you round before
She mumbled something while we got down on the floor baby
We might've fucked not really sure, don't quite recall
But something tells me that I've seen him, yeah

*STANDING OVATION*   Thank You!!!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: mjfansince4 on March 15, 2010, 09:01:10 PM
ok, yes the excerpts from those songs don't show a direct correlation to the nwo/illuminati and michael's songs are blatantly pointing to something. however, did you write these songs? you actually don't know the meaning behind the lyrics. lyricists are very tricky in how they word things. "speechless" by lady gaga is written about her father when he first refused to get heart surgery. she wrote the song to convince him. "dance in the dark" is about the insecurities women have, especially with sex. if you look at songs face value, especially lady gaga songs, they have overtly sexual, fame obsessed, materialistic and shallow content. But, there can be a meaning in there.

You are beyond entitled to thinking this way, and if it turns out you're right, i will willingly retract my statement and apologize. However, everyone chooses to express themselves differently. Michael is a genius, and nobody can top the way he captures what is going on in the world through his lyrics. But, there are other artists out there, writing their own songs too, and may be saying things in a different way than what Michael's approach was.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: grayshki on March 15, 2010, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "grayshki"
Actually their far from illuminati puppets. If u paid attention, they're "outing" the illuminati quite blatantly. The message of this video is that those elite are keeping us in max security prison  (we think we're free and cool). We can't tell the difference between boys and girls anymore . Everywhere u go, read, and see , there's ads for diet coke, cigs, junk food, coz that's "cool", and it's their plan to destroy us. when she wears the yellow police tape , it signifies they're committing crimes against us, humanity. We're victims of their manipulation. They "poison" our food (diner-ppl dying), our minds. The "elite" are ultimately our  pimps . hence why they killed the "pimp" in the diner (notice his expensive clothing). It's their way of saying "u have no control over us--we're free and u'll never have control coz we're exposing the truth ( meaning of sentence "far away and never come back"  Never coming back to THEM)"

The colors black and white were used (illuminati) Pyramid earring in one of the girls...    They're telling us about the illuminati and what they're doing.

These are just a few points. There are more

gaga made it deliberately look disgusting for a purpose---to shock us into seeing the truth

I am aware of all the points you just mentioned. And if you paid attention you would've noticed that the music industry is a huge part of the nwo. Are you really trying to say that those 'artists' are 'warning' us?  :lol:
They're just a big part of it. Why do you think the illuminati use their symbols in music videos and movies? It's all so we would say that "it's just something out of movies".

Lady gaga and Beyonce flashing their crotches in videos, promoting killing, promoting the all seeing eye and the baphomets horns isn't really a way to lead us to the truth. So please wake up!

Quote from: "looking4truth"
I agree 100%. I think she is very clever when it comes to her message delivery. From first glance, it looks like she is a puppet but if you look closer into it, she seems to make a lot of social commentary about a variety of topics.

And as far as people saying it's disgusting, I think it is supposed to shock you and disgust you because she is only projecting what the media and others has been putting to children and the masses for years now. She is just doing it in a very bold way. They do it in more subtle ways.

I also think Lady Gaga's whole persona is meant to be a sarcastic take on the celebrity puppet.

I could be totally wrong but it is interesting how obvious these messages are getting in the videos lately.

She doesn't only look like a puppet; she is. And she very well aware of it.

And how does she make those "social commentary about a variety of topics"? By promoting nudity, violence, scary occult symbols? Oh give me a break!

The target group of these so called artists are children. Do we really want these kind people to have any kind of effect on our kids? Don't think so. I sure wouldn't.

Has it ever occured to you that this kind of 'artists', music and musicvideos are simply a part of the agenda?

Just check out this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656)

Or watch 'The industry exposed' on youtube.

If ur saying that by using quite obvious illuminati material in her work, gaga is using illuminati for her benefit rather then exposing them, then ur saying Michael also did the same thing. Look at his Dangerous album cover, Blood on the dance Floor, Ghosts video (the floor, columns, etc...),the Invincible cover (one eye more obvious then the other).... these are just a few of the examples of his work that are FULL of illuminati symbols. So , what was his purpose? For his own gain? Or for their exposure?  
And remember, invincible was in the 2000's.

I believe gaga is doing the same as Michael. U should watch her interview with oprah. it might give u new perspectives on why she does this the way she does.  she's not afraid.

And I have to stress, i don't even like lady gaga's music all that much.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 15, 2010, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: "grayshki"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "grayshki"
Actually their far from illuminati puppets. If u paid attention, they're "outing" the illuminati quite blatantly. The message of this video is that those elite are keeping us in max security prison  (we think we're free and cool). We can't tell the difference between boys and girls anymore . Everywhere u go, read, and see , there's ads for diet coke, cigs, junk food, coz that's "cool", and it's their plan to destroy us. when she wears the yellow police tape , it signifies they're committing crimes against us, humanity. We're victims of their manipulation. They "poison" our food (diner-ppl dying), our minds. The "elite" are ultimately our  pimps . hence why they killed the "pimp" in the diner (notice his expensive clothing). It's their way of saying "u have no control over us--we're free and u'll never have control coz we're exposing the truth ( meaning of sentence "far away and never come back"  Never coming back to THEM)"

The colors black and white were used (illuminati) Pyramid earring in one of the girls...    They're telling us about the illuminati and what they're doing.

These are just a few points. There are more

gaga made it deliberately look disgusting for a purpose---to shock us into seeing the truth

I am aware of all the points you just mentioned. And if you paid attention you would've noticed that the music industry is a huge part of the nwo. Are you really trying to say that those 'artists' are 'warning' us?  :lol:
They're just a big part of it. Why do you think the illuminati use their symbols in music videos and movies? It's all so we would say that "it's just something out of movies".

Lady gaga and Beyonce flashing their crotches in videos, promoting killing, promoting the all seeing eye and the baphomets horns isn't really a way to lead us to the truth. So please wake up!

Quote from: "looking4truth"
I agree 100%. I think she is very clever when it comes to her message delivery. From first glance, it looks like she is a puppet but if you look closer into it, she seems to make a lot of social commentary about a variety of topics.

And as far as people saying it's disgusting, I think it is supposed to shock you and disgust you because she is only projecting what the media and others has been putting to children and the masses for years now. She is just doing it in a very bold way. They do it in more subtle ways.

I also think Lady Gaga's whole persona is meant to be a sarcastic take on the celebrity puppet.

I could be totally wrong but it is interesting how obvious these messages are getting in the videos lately.

She doesn't only look like a puppet; she is. And she very well aware of it.

And how does she make those "social commentary about a variety of topics"? By promoting nudity, violence, scary occult symbols? Oh give me a break!

The target group of these so called artists are children. Do we really want these kind people to have any kind of effect on our kids? Don't think so. I sure wouldn't.

Has it ever occured to you that this kind of 'artists', music and musicvideos are simply a part of the agenda?

Just check out this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=4656)

Or watch 'The industry exposed' on youtube.

If ur saying that by using quite obvious illuminati material in her work, gaga is using illuminati for her benefit rather then exposing them, then ur saying Michael also did the same thing. Look at his Dangerous album cover, Blood on the dance Floor, Ghosts video (the floor, columns, etc...),the Invincible cover (one eye more obvious then the other).... these are just a few of the examples of his work that are FULL of illuminati symbols. So , what was his purpose? For his own gain? Or for their exposure?  
And remember, invincible was in the 2000's.

I believe gaga is doing the same as Michael. U should watch her interview with oprah. it might give u new perspectives on why she does this the way she does.  she's not afraid.

And I have to stress, i don't even like lady gaga's music all that much.

I don't think it was consciously Michael's intention to expose the illuminati until "HIStory", maybe "Dangerous".  I think he was doing a lot of those things and putting symbols in certain places subconsciously before that.  I think they came from what he was exposed to after being in the music business for so long.  

There's also a strikingly different tone to his music then Lady Gaga's...He actually addresses the issues dead on in "History" and "Invincible".  Lady Gaga glorifies it.  There's a huge difference... she making things that are normally evil and wicked seem glamorous and fun.  That's how the youth is responding to her music.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: teine21 on March 16, 2010, 04:54:57 AM
Off topic a little bit, but just wanted to add another excerpt to the lyrics that are out now. This is from Britney Spears' song "3" which is about a threesome, a LOT of kids listen to her so the fact that she's singing a song like this on the radio is ridiculous. Anyways, I think the illuminati is behind her breakdown & drugging her. I've always thought people were responsible for that & now people are in control of her life all over again, here's a part of her lyrics:

"Are - you in
Livin' in sin is the new thing"

Livin' in SIN is the new thing? That's a great message for kids.  :roll:

I think we should be careful though, I don't really think every little thing refers to the occult. usually artists use choreographers, video directors & costume designers for their videos, so maybe it's not so much the artist using the occult symbolism maybe it's the people behind the scenes putting it in there & the artist is clueless as to what it symbolizes. & as for the songs, sometimes a lot of artists use metaphors in their lyrics to describe something else. So I don't want to get carried away here, I don't believe Beyonce is purposefully putting these things out there, I think she is being influenced by her husband & she's trying to keep up with Gaga, since they are the biggest female artists out there today. I don't know, I always liked Beyonce & so did MJ but the last time we saw them together was a few years ago, she has definitely changed a bit. I just don't know what to believe, it's getting crazy. But I don't want everyone to get carried away & start pointing fingers, this could really turn into a witch hunt all over again.  :roll:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: teine21 on March 16, 2010, 05:18:28 AM
Found some interesting/strange Beyonce lyrics from her last 2 albums. BDay & I am..Sasha Fierce.

"Welcome to Hollywood " Featuring Jay Z.

[Intro: Jay-Z + (Beyonce)]
IT AIN'T FOR EVERYBODY!
(Uh) Welcome to Hollywood baby
(Take a picture) Uh huh
You're coming with? (Let's not even talk about it)
Let's do it (Let's Go!)

[Bridge 1]
I see your jealousy as you're watching
You're watching
It's kinda sexy to me how you're watching
You're watching

I see your face (I see your face)
You wanna touch it (You wanna touch it)
Come to my place (Come to my crib)
And let's discuss it (Let's chop it up)
Tonight you'll be (Tonight you're gonna be a superstar)
a superstar
come let me sign you up

(let's get into it)

[Chorus:]
Oh it's the lights (You're blinded by the)
Action! (You need that)
Hollywood
Oh it's the lights (You're blinded by the)
Satisfaction! (You need that)
Hollywood

You got to get it
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh
Do you want it
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh
But you don't need it
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh
What do you do?
oh oh oh
What do you do?
oh oh oh
Hey

I see your face (I see your face)
You wanna touch it (You wanna touch it)
Come to my place (Come to my crib)
And let's discuss it (Let's chop it up)
Tonight you'll be (Tonight you gonna' be a superstar)
a superstar
come let me sign you up

[Chorus]

You hear it screaming
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh
Camera's rolling
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh
So addictive
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh
like Hollywood
oh oh oh oh
oh oh oh

And everybody warning you about it (Try to told you)
And once you taste you can't live without it (It's addictive)
Not 'cause you choose to not live without it (Sure you want this baby)
It's now a part of you (It's a part of you)
It's now a part of you
And everybody warning you about it (I see you blinded)
And once you taste you can't live

[Chorus:]
Ooh it's the lights (It's the lights)
Action! (Action)
Hollywood (Hollywood)
Ooh it's the lights (Satisfaction)
Satisfaction! (So addictive)
(Hey) Hollywood (Hollywood)

Now you wanna be seen
Male groupies
Now you become what you once despised
James Dean
John Belushi
Blow your whole life
Tryna live in the lights
Heroins following Marilyn Hoppin'
over the edges
just like Janice Joplin
River Phoenix
Jimi Hendrix
Jamie Morrison
All of them ended by
Hollywood

I see your face and a you wanna touch
come to my place and we can discuss it

Hollywood, Welcome to Hollywood

"Poison"
"Poison"

[Verse 1]
You're bad for me
I clearly get it
I don't see how something good could come from loving you

The death of me
Must be your mission
'Cuz with every hug and kiss,
You're snatching every bit of strength

That I'm gon' need to fight off the inevitable
And it's a heart-breaking situation
I'm up in but I can't control

[Chorus]
You're just like poison
Slowly moving through my system breaking all of my defenses with time

You're just like poison
And I just don't get it
How could something so deadly feel so right?

I'm not sure of what to do
It's a catch twenty-two
'Cuz the cure is found in you,
I don't want it but I do

You're just like poison
My affliction, I'm addicted, I can't lie
Kiss me one more time before I die

[Verse 2]
You ain't right, take me high
Then that high, it subsides
And my body flat lines

Then you come to revive
Wait, wait, wait, I'm alive
But how long will it last?
Will it all come crashing down?

How many doses am I needin' now?
What's the prognosis, will you be around?
Or am I just another victim of an assassin that broke my heart down?

[Chorus]
Baby, you're just like poison
Slowly moving through my system breaking all of my defenses with time

You're just like poison
And I just don't get it
How could something so deadly feel so right?

I'm not sure of what to do
It's a catch twenty-two
'Cuz the cure is found in you,
I don't want it but I do

You're just like poison
My affliction, I'm addicted, I can't lie
Kiss me one more time before I die

[Verse 3]
It's just not my body (oh),
It's my mind you don't know how many times I told myself this can't do (can't do)
And that I don't need you
(No, I don't need you, no)

It's so unfair
That I find myself right back in your care
And what's good is that when you're not always there (there, there)
You're no good for my health, my health

You're just like poison

You're just like poison

[Chorus]
You're just like poison
Slowly moving through my system breaking all of my defenses with time

You're just like poison
And I just don't get it
How could something so deadly feel so right?

I'm not sure of what to do
It's a catch twenty-two
'Cuz the cure is found in you,
I don't want it but I do

You're just like poison
My affliction, I'm addicted, I can't lie
Baby, kiss me one more time

You're just like poison
Slowly moving through my system breaking all of my defenses with time

You're just like poison
And I just don't get it
How could something so deadly feel so right?

I'm not sure of what to do
It's a catch twenty-two
'Cuz the cure is found in you,
I don't wanna do

You're just like poison
I'm addicted, I can't lie
Kiss me one more time

 :roll:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 17, 2010, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: "grayshki"
If ur saying that by using quite obvious illuminati material in her work, gaga is using illuminati for her benefit rather then exposing them, then ur saying Michael also did the same thing. Look at his Dangerous album cover, Blood on the dance Floor, Ghosts video (the floor, columns, etc...),the Invincible cover (one eye more obvious then the other).... these are just a few of the examples of his work that are FULL of illuminati symbols. So , what was his purpose? For his own gain? Or for their exposure?  
And remember, invincible was in the 2000's.

I believe gaga is doing the same as Michael. U should watch her interview with oprah. it might give u new perspectives on why she does this the way she does.  she's not afraid.

And I have to stress, i don't even like lady gaga's music all that much.

Michael is obviously using their symbols with another interpretation, for example the Blood On The Dancefloor cover:

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/michael-jackson/10-1.jpg)

He's standing on their masonic checkered floor, while he's wearing red. So he's the blood on their floor; they metaphorical shedded his blood with all the bashing and slander.
And while he's standing on their floor, he's doing the Black Panthers fist. And that could only mean one thing; he's in war with them. And don't forget the lyircs on the album, for example the lyric of 'Is It Scary'.

So he using the symbols clearly from a whole another perspective.


Not like Lady Gaga who's doing the 'As above as below' like satan (yes it's all in the devils game) :

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EcYLui_6qNs/SnyYn92dJkI/AAAAAAAACyk/9hIh6iW7N3c/s400/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg)
Plus she's doing the all seeing eye of the Anti Christ, while she's a puppet/dummy for them.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EcYLui_6qNs/SnyZe9cIgpI/AAAAAAAACys/HHaC0OUVhNo/s400/Baphomet.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ElQ6uj_xmu0/SwZZTftltfI/AAAAAAAAAuI/v5y2XZDunzc/s1600/ladygagagoathair.jpg)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: WeAreOne on March 17, 2010, 06:10:07 PM
Amen grayshki. You hit the nail right on the head. I know it's hard for some people to understand, but you did a marvelous job of explaining the concept of the video. Well at least that is my understanding of the video.

Quote from: "grayshki"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Please don't compare those vulgaire attention-seeking illuminati puppets with Michael Jackson, the humanitarian, the legend, the beautiful, wonderful man.

If Beyonce really was friends with him, how come she wasn't at the funeral or the memorial?  :roll:
Actually their far from illuminati puppets. If u paid attention, they're "outing" the illuminati quite blatantly. The message of this video is that those elite are keeping us in max security prison  (we think we're free and cool). We can't tell the difference between boys and girls anymore . Everywhere u go, read, and see , there's ads for diet coke, cigs, junk food, coz that's "cool", and it's their plan to destroy us. when she wears the yellow police tape , it signifies they're committing crimes against us, humanity. We're victims of their manipulation. They "poison" our food (diner-ppl dying), our minds. The "elite" are ultimately our  pimps . hence why they killed the "pimp" in the diner (notice his expensive clothing). It's their way of saying "u have no control over us--we're free and u'll never have control coz we're exposing the truth ( meaning of sentence "far away and never come back"  Never coming back to THEM)"

The colors black and white were used (illuminati) Pyramid earring in one of the girls...    They're telling us about the illuminati and what they're doing.

These are just a few points. There are more

gaga made it deliberately look disgusting for a purpose---to shock us into seeing the truth
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 17, 2010, 06:10:46 PM
Quote from: "Believe 777"
The difficulty comes when things like lyrics and imagery can be interpreted in different ways. It all means different things to different people. I don't like the lyrics to this song but I also don't know who these lyrics are aimed at ie, Illuminati or fans. Only the writer knows the true meaning behind their lyrics. I agree, I don't like the idea of kids hearing it, maybe it's for the adults to hear and be shocked at what our kids are listening to. I just keep watching to see what happens next, and where this is heading. Whatever it is doing it is pointing directly to the Illuminati, which is the point, I guess.

Are you serious   :|

That's like saying animal abuse is wrong and wanting to proof that by beating up a little kitten and then say "you see how wrong animal abuse is".
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: ROFL on March 17, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
I hope MJ liking Lady Blah Blah is just a damn rumour , I don't see why he would like her , she is vulgar & a  damn illuminati puppet ..I can't stand beyonce too anyway ... So I don't think it has anything to do with MJ
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: ROFL on March 17, 2010, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Believe 777"
The difficulty comes when things like lyrics and imagery can be interpreted in different ways. It all means different things to different people. I don't like the lyrics to this song but I also don't know who these lyrics are aimed at ie, Illuminati or fans. Only the writer knows the true meaning behind their lyrics. I agree, I don't like the idea of kids hearing it, maybe it's for the adults to hear and be shocked at what our kids are listening to. I just keep watching to see what happens next, and where this is heading. Whatever it is doing it is pointing directly to the Illuminati, which is the point, I guess.

Are you serious   :|

That's like saying animal abuse is wrong and wanting to proof that by beating up a little kitten and then say "you see how wrong animal abuse is".

LMAO haha , I see what she means and I see what you mean too ..But I think what dancing_machine i saying is just far fetched and is just false .. I don't think there is any hope that Lady Gaga is trying to help us in any way.. she is only brainwashing people with sex all over her clips ..
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Believe 777 on March 17, 2010, 08:16:19 PM
Thank you ROTF, for seeing both sides. There is always more than one possible meaning to everything, people interpret things in a way that fits for them, depending on what they have learned and connected. My main point here is that Gaga and Beyonce's motives will be one or the other but the common basis is that the Illuminati are being exposed which ever way you look at it. You are all ahead of so many people out there. Millions of people haven't got the slightest clue about any of this and they kind of need to be shouted at so they take notice.  You don't need to be shouted at, you are already awake because you found out. I hope that makes sense, I just don't want this to be an I'm right and your wrong type of discussion. Both theories make sense, you may see mine as being far-fetched and I respect that as I respect your thoughts and beliefs, and I understand them.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: moonwalkontoes on March 17, 2010, 09:11:34 PM
Quote
Little kids are listening to her music. This is just too much.

Little kids probably saw MJ doing thrusting movements, grabbing his crotch and videos like In The Closet, too.

We all know how sexual MJ could be, just like every other artists.  It's not their job to censor themselves for children.

----

Yes, Beyonce didn't say anything to the MEDIA during the trial but that doesn't mean they weren't friends.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: MashMike on March 18, 2010, 03:18:35 AM
Honestly i didn't like Gaga's and Beyonce's video at all,it has nothin' to do with Thriller,Thriller was a real piece of art,while Telephone was rather vulgar and from part to part disgusting to watch,esp. the lesb. moments,really, i do like Gaga and Beyonce,esp. Beyonce,she is a real talent but neither i think Beyonce was Mike's close friend, yes, he liked her as a talent and nice girl and vice versa,but close friends,i dont think so,where there those "tons of close friends" in the most terrible moment of his life,when he was going through hell, and now after his "death" all of them show their great love and respect for him,no criticizing, noone has the right to do it,but enough is enough
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 18, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "grayshki"
If ur saying that by using quite obvious illuminati material in her work, gaga is using illuminati for her benefit rather then exposing them, then ur saying Michael also did the same thing. Look at his Dangerous album cover, Blood on the dance Floor, Ghosts video (the floor, columns, etc...),the Invincible cover (one eye more obvious then the other).... these are just a few of the examples of his work that are FULL of illuminati symbols. So , what was his purpose? For his own gain? Or for their exposure?  
And remember, invincible was in the 2000's.

I believe gaga is doing the same as Michael. U should watch her interview with oprah. it might give u new perspectives on why she does this the way she does.  she's not afraid.

And I have to stress, i don't even like lady gaga's music all that much.

Michael is obviously using their symbols with another interpretation, for example the Blood On The Dancefloor cover:

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/michael-jackson/10-1.jpg)

He's standing on their masonic checkered floor, while he's wearing red. So he's the blood on their floor; they metaphorical shedded his blood with all the bashing and slander.
And while he's standing on their floor, he's doing the Black Panthers fist. And that could only mean one thing; he's in war with them. And don't forget the lyircs on the album, for example the lyric of 'Is It Scary'.

So he using the symbols clearly from a whole another perspective.


Not like Lady Gaga who's doing the 'As above as below' like satan (yes it's all in the devils game) :

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EcYLui_6qNs/SnyYn92dJkI/AAAAAAAACyk/9hIh6iW7N3c/s400/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg)
Plus she's doing the all seeing eye of the Anti Christ, while she's a puppet/dummy for them.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EcYLui_6qNs/SnyZe9cIgpI/AAAAAAAACys/HHaC0OUVhNo/s400/Baphomet.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ElQ6uj_xmu0/SwZZTftltfI/AAAAAAAAAuI/v5y2XZDunzc/s1600/ladygagagoathair.jpg)

I wanted to add to this that the Invincible album is full of lyrics where he's showing that they can't mess with him.

That's not what we can say about Lady Gaga and Beyonce.  :|
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: virgo75 on March 18, 2010, 01:12:11 PM
Great post Dancing_Machine!
I agree 100%.









I'm still mad at myself that I spent almost 10 minutes watching that stupid video waiting for it to get as good as a MJ video.  That's 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back....
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: ROFL on March 18, 2010, 01:58:27 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "grayshki"
If ur saying that by using quite obvious illuminati material in her work, gaga is using illuminati for her benefit rather then exposing them, then ur saying Michael also did the same thing. Look at his Dangerous album cover, Blood on the dance Floor, Ghosts video (the floor, columns, etc...),the Invincible cover (one eye more obvious then the other).... these are just a few of the examples of his work that are FULL of illuminati symbols. So , what was his purpose? For his own gain? Or for their exposure?  
And remember, invincible was in the 2000's.

I believe gaga is doing the same as Michael. U should watch her interview with oprah. it might give u new perspectives on why she does this the way she does.  she's not afraid.

And I have to stress, i don't even like lady gaga's music all that much.

Michael is obviously using their symbols with another interpretation, for example the Blood On The Dancefloor cover:

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/michael-jackson/10-1.jpg)

He's standing on their masonic checkered floor, while he's wearing red. So he's the blood on their floor; they metaphorical shedded his blood with all the bashing and slander.
And while he's standing on their floor, he's doing the Black Panthers fist. And that could only mean one thing; he's in war with them. And don't forget the lyircs on the album, for example the lyric of 'Is It Scary'.

So he using the symbols clearly from a whole another perspective.


Not like Lady Gaga who's doing the 'As above as below' like satan (yes it's all in the devils game) :

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EcYLui_6qNs/SnyYn92dJkI/AAAAAAAACyk/9hIh6iW7N3c/s400/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg)
Plus she's doing the all seeing eye of the Anti Christ, while she's a puppet/dummy for them.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EcYLui_6qNs/SnyZe9cIgpI/AAAAAAAACys/HHaC0OUVhNo/s400/Baphomet.png)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ElQ6uj_xmu0/SwZZTftltfI/AAAAAAAAAuI/v5y2XZDunzc/s1600/ladygagagoathair.jpg)

I wanted to add to this that the Invincible album is full of lyrics where he's showing that they can't mess with him.

That's not what we can say about Lady Gaga and Beyonce.  :|


+1 !
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 18, 2010, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: "ROFL"
I hope MJ liking Lady Blah Blah is just a damn rumour , I don't see why he would like her , she is vulgar & a  damn illuminati puppet ..I can't stand beyonce too anyway ... So I don't think it has anything to do with MJ

I agree with you and I can't stand the both of them.

"Lady Blah Blah"  :lol:
Or we can her Lady Gross Gross...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 18, 2010, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Great post Dancing_Machine!
I agree 100%.



I'm still mad at myself that I spent almost 10 minutes watching that stupid video waiting for it to get as good as a MJ video.  That's 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back....

Thanks!

You mean the 'Telephone' video? I myself had skipped the most parts because it's to disgusting.
And I also muted the sound  :lol:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: frogh777 on March 18, 2010, 05:44:02 PM
Damn lady Gaga and rest of those rats! they just dont have a life... come on,, why cant u be like MJ!!! this is about our world!!!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: virgo75 on March 18, 2010, 05:44:43 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "virgo75"
Great post Dancing_Machine!
I agree 100%.



I'm still mad at myself that I spent almost 10 minutes watching that stupid video waiting for it to get as good as a MJ video.  That's 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back....

Thanks!

You mean the 'Telephone' video? I myself had skipped the most parts because it's to disgusting.
And I also muted the sound  :lol:

Yes!  That one!

I'm still mad.   :evil:

How dare anyone compare that garbage to anything Michael ever did?!   :evil:
It's so horrible it's been burned into my brain.   :x
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: loma on March 18, 2010, 05:46:49 PM
:lol: My cousin calls her "Lady Caca".
I definitely think Michael could do better than liking her.
I think she had some vocal talent when she was younger.
But she just pushes it a little too far?  :?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 21, 2010, 01:58:16 PM
i cant help but think she is in on it ill do a list with my reasons see wot u think:
1. someone on here said shes in mjs catalogue
2. paparazzi vid - she was on the dollars like gilda, bunny ears, wheelchair like famous mj pic, newspapers reading shes innoncent police investigation and shes back, legs hanging like believe poster, fell off balcony and news said no more ga ga but she lived and her cross earing and mjs cross on back of his coat black or white
3. telephone bout 3.32 in mirror mj or lady looking like him illusion? Why put it in if wasnt him not everyone noticed was that the point?
4.lyrics to some songs on her album like but you chose death, hes a wolf in disguise, that boy is a monster etc
5. bad romance bout sex slave yet showed a part where they came back to life out of morgue
6. dressed as tinkerbell at grammys
7. janet said she didnt know her but would have to as they were both on xfactor and would have to speak when sorting out rehearsals no?
8. brothers have tweeted how they love ga ga
9. travis talked how michael liked ga ga was it a hint that we should watch her for clues? Why tell us if not?
10. she said how she did a tribute to him like 7 months before he died hmm 7?!


theres something about her just my opinion sorry lots of points :lol:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 21, 2010, 02:03:09 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/2ch24o1.jpg (http://i33.tinypic.com/2ch24o1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: ROFL on March 21, 2010, 02:13:01 PM
:?  I'm in no way convinced ..
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 21, 2010, 02:14:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2smz_1L2_0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2smz_1L2_0) [YouTube][/YouTube]


please watch this whole way through ;)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 21, 2010, 02:41:31 PM
watch telephone on ladygaga.com at 5.11 the dice you get 7 right? 8-)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 21, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
Quote from: "steffmaster1"
i cant help but think she is in on it ill do a list with my reasons see wot u think:
1. someone on here said shes in mjs catalogue
2. paparazzi vid - she was on the dollars like gilda, bunny ears, wheelchair like famous mj pic, newspapers reading shes innoncent police investigation and shes back, legs hanging like believe poster, fell off balcony and news said no more ga ga but she lived and her cross earing and mjs cross on back of his coat black or white
3. telephone bout 3.32 in mirror mj or lady looking like him illusion? Why put it in if wasnt him not everyone noticed was that the point?
4.lyrics to some songs on her album like but you chose death, hes a wolf in disguise, that boy is a monster etc
5. bad romance bout sex slave yet showed a part where they came back to life out of morgue
6. dressed as tinkerbell at grammys
7. janet said she didnt know her but would have to as they were both on xfactor and would have to speak when sorting out rehearsals no?
8. brothers have tweeted how they love ga ga
9. travis talked how michael liked ga ga was it a hint that we should watch her for clues? Why tell us if not?
10. she said how she did a tribute to him like 7 months before he died hmm 7?!


theres something about her just my opinion sorry lots of points :lol:

The only connection I see is that she is copying Michael and that´s it.
So you can´t convince me...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Believe 777 on March 21, 2010, 05:51:06 PM
I agree with you entirely steffmaster1. Apparently Michael really liked her and wanted her on the TII tour.
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphop ... lady-gaga/ (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/240205/michael-jackson-wanted-to-work-with-lady-gaga/)
I understand why many see her as a puppet, but she has convinced me in several ways that she is out to expose them. I believe that TII has been a long term project, not a simply just a tour or a movie, but many things and many angles. Gaga, IMO could well be involved in TII and playing her part. There seem to be many people who have a connection to Michael shortly before he 'died'. Gaga, Beyonce, Britney, Roseanne Barr are a few I can think of. Maybe he is telling us his own way that we should be keeping an eye on what these people are doing.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: virgo75 on March 21, 2010, 07:13:52 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
The only connection I see is that she is copying Michael and that´s it.
So you can´t convince me...


2nd this.

And sorry if this has been posted before, but has anyone else seen this?  It's an analysis of "that" video.  :lol:   yeah, i'm still bitter


The Hidden Meaning of Lady Gaga’s “Telephone”
Mar 14th, 2010 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports
Lady Gaga’s 9-minute video featuring Beyoncé is steeped in weirdness and shock value. Behind the strange aesthetic, however, lies a deeper meaning, another level of interpretation. The video refers to mind control and, more specifically, Monarch Programming, a covert technique profusely used in the entertainment industry. We’ll look at the occult meaning of the video “Telephone”.





Just when I thought I’d written everything I had to write about Lady Gaga, Telephone comes out. An inevitable deluge of e-mails instantly followed, demanding an article about it. So I watched the video and, gosh darnit, the people who wrote those e-mails were right. There are, yet again, a whole bunch of Illuminati/mind control symbols in Lady Gaga’s latest video. I can’t say I was surprised, however, knowing that Jonas Akerlund co-wrote and directed the video. In the article Lady Gaga, the Illuminati puppet (which I suggest you read before this one), I dissected the Akerlund-directed video Paparazzi and its references to mind-control programming. Telephone acts as a sequel to Paparazzi, where Gaga still plays the role of a mind-controlled drone who kills people. This concept is never openly discussed by the artists when they are asked to explain their videos because it is not meant to be understood for the masses. The hidden meaning of the video actually depicts the elite’s contempt for the general population, hence the scene of ritual murder of average Americans in a diner by mind-controlled slaves. Don’t know what the hell I’m talking about? Keep reading.

Read the rest here:  http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 22, 2010, 11:05:37 AM
Wow, what a great influence on kids... :roll:
Watch the whole video...

http://www.zshare.net/video/7370865361c737e2/ (http://www.zshare.net/video/7370865361c737e2/)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Bee Bee on March 22, 2010, 11:24:16 AM
I rarely get insulting, but you're all crazy with that Illuminati crap. Lady Gaga is not an "Illuminati puppet", she isn't anybody's puppet, she's an artist, and a very original and creative one, and that's exactly the reason why Michael probably likes/liked her.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on March 22, 2010, 04:27:07 PM
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
I rarely get insulting, but you're all crazy with that Illuminati crap. Lady Gaga is not an "Illuminati puppet", she isn't anybody's puppet, she's an artist, and a very original and creative one, and that's exactly the reason why Michael probably likes/liked her.

Then how do you explain all those satanic symbols she's using? And she's not the only one in the industry who's using those symbols: Beyonce, Jay Z, Kanye West, Rihanna, Madonna, Lil'Wayne and many others...
Is that a coincidence?

Do you really feel personalluy insulted when I say she's a illuminati puppet?  :|
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: StargazerMJ11 on March 22, 2010, 08:57:46 PM
I know this subject is extremely emotive and Gaga and her ilk certainly draw out  the love or hate attitudes. Steffmaster1 has pointed out some very relevant points . Personally I don't like her dress or anything about the way she is but considering where the imagery comes from ,actually very few would - if they realised.
                               It is therefore very easy to dissmiss everything about these artists because they disgust us. The lives they live in amongst the most nasty and corrupt people is not to be under estimated. Each person only has their own experience to draw on and it can be easy to judge when outside of a system.
It is a good assumption to make that not all of them are 'loving' the life they ended up with and that it is maybe a lot harder to leave it especially when the real threat of harm comes in to play. We all know what happens to the ones who go against the system - they set them up & can end up in prison after destroying  their image, they end up in 're-hab' for indoctrination or even murdered.
                              Eminem sings about a lot of nasty amoral things but there is one song - 3D - where he says he has sold his soul to the devil & will never get it back, if he'd known what he'd lose he'd never have started to rap. Sometimes people get in way over their heads and are too scared to get out.None of us know what we would do faced with that particular reality.
                           So - maybe some of them are trying to do both at the same time. At the Brits Cat Deeley said Gaga's album was more than an album it is an art movement and if you think about the things that they actually do to animals and people - then her imagery is still very tame compared to the reality - so if she shocks us - then the truth will shock so much more.
                         If someone were to give them a key and say 'here is an end to it - let yourself out' there would be a mass exodus - they realise that the gains are not worth the pains. So maybe it's a question of giving out a shock to make people ask what on earth is going on - and having people then find out the truth while forming a resistance to help people escape - which both Gaga and Beyonce do at the end - promise we'll never go back!!!
                        Beyonce has also 'killed off ' Sasha Fierce - her alter ego - just after the Grammys where the whole performance was about protection and escape - funny that!!!
                      Maybe it's becoming safer for some of the butterflies to fly away or maybe someone has found the key...................?
x
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: chrisman on March 23, 2010, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
You know i dont think that was reaching all tha far myself  ;)  Did you see Gaga do the MJ move as they released her from jail????  Beyonce says "do you promise we can go far far away and never come back????? hmmmmmmmm ....something to think about...
I totally left that out! but the first time I saw it, I noticed it too. strange. But yeah, I'm just dreaming...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 24, 2010, 09:50:42 AM
part when they are in front of car dressed ion purple and black long netting outfits were like mjs disguises sometimes take a look

http://mjjr.net/images/content/20080526MJSightings.jpg (http://mjjr.net/images/content/20080526MJSightings.jpg)   (he looks so cool here :P  ;) )
http://michaeljacksonnotdead.files.word ... ott-dr.jpg (http://michaeljacksonnotdead.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-disguised-co-scott-dr.jpg)
http://lisawallerrogers.files.wordpress ... by-hat.jpg (http://lisawallerrogers.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-2008-in-trademark-trilby-hat.jpg)


http://www.ladygaga.com/telephone/# (http://www.ladygaga.com/telephone/#)     9.00-9.01


reference to him right?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 25, 2010, 12:23:30 PM
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
I rarely get insulting, but you're all crazy with that Illuminati crap. Lady Gaga is not an "Illuminati puppet", she isn't anybody's puppet, she's an artist, and a very original and creative one, and that's exactly the reason why Michael probably likes/liked her.

Just because you deny that exists, doesn't mean it's crap.  Perhaps people are interpreting it the wrong way, but if you've gathered enough information, you'd be 'crazy' to deny that there is truth to a lot of it.

Have you heard of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury?  If you have, then you'd know that Lady Gaga is not original.  She's just something that this generation hasn't seen yet.  Btw, I'm in my early 20's, I'm just well informed about music history.  I have no idea whether or not Michael Jackson 'liked' Lady Gaga's music... he also 'liked' Nsync and Britney Spears when they were popular...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: WeAreOne on March 29, 2010, 05:12:15 PM
Quote from: "nynyro"
Quote from: "Bee Bee"
I rarely get insulting, but you're all crazy with that Illuminati crap. Lady Gaga is not an "Illuminati puppet", she isn't anybody's puppet, she's an artist, and a very original and creative one, and that's exactly the reason why Michael probably likes/liked her.

Just because you deny that exists, doesn't mean it's crap.  Perhaps people are interpreting it the wrong way, but if you've gathered enough information, you'd be 'crazy' to deny that there is truth to a lot of it.

Have you heard of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury?  If you have, then you'd know that Lady Gaga is not original.  She's just something that this generation hasn't seen yet.  Btw, I'm in my early 20's, I'm just well informed about music history.  I have no idea whether or not Michael Jackson 'liked' Lady Gaga's music... he also 'liked' Nsync and Britney Spears when they were popular...

Nsync and Britney Spears were more than just popular, they were/are record breakers! Hence why MJ liked them and admired them.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 29, 2010, 07:23:18 PM
Quote from: "WeAreOne"

Nsync and Britney Spears were more than just popular, they were/are record breakers! Hence why MJ liked them and admired them.

 I think the reasons he liked certain artists went beyond how many albums they sold or how many grammy's they won. Call me presumptuous, but I don't think he was that shallow.  He probably liked them because he could the were hard-working and spent their teenage years in the spotlight and he could relate to that.   I remember hearing him say in an interview that Nsync were "giants in the music industry"... that was clearly an exaggeration.  I think he had a lot of respect for them and was trying to be nice.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 30, 2010, 10:57:38 AM
wot i got from vid bout mike possibly

1.disguises were like mikes especially the black one beyonce wore
2.promise we'll never come back? hmm wudnt that be obvious
3.7 on dice
4.prison like tdcau
5.mj in mirror or woman who looks like him why? We dont see the person
6. lets go far far away
7.homocide and drugs to kill
8. mj moves now and then by ga ga
9. beyonce wore his jacket
10. look on the computer someone talked bout 9s being upside down as clues like in BEPs video Imma be
11.8.17 choreography like ghosts when they were crouching on floor
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: WeAreOne on March 30, 2010, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: "nynyro"
Quote from: "WeAreOne"

Nsync and Britney Spears were more than just popular, they were/are record breakers! Hence why MJ liked them and admired them.

 I think the reasons he liked certain artists went beyond how many albums they sold or how many grammy's they won. Call me presumptuous, but I don't think he was that shallow.  He probably liked them because he could the were hard-working and spent their teenage years in the spotlight and he could relate to that.   I remember hearing him say in an interview that Nsync were "giants in the music industry"... that was clearly an exaggeration.  I think he had a lot of respect for them and was trying to be nice.

Admiring someone because they broke records is not being shallow at all. Maybe admiring someone for their looks is, but not their talent. And you have to have some kind of talent to go DIAMOND like they did. Regardless of if you like their music or not Nsync and Britney were huge at the time. They ( along with a few record exec's) set the tone for the early 2000's everyone was trying to sound like them. I think he respected the new generation. Plus they helped bring back dance and choreography!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: MJonmind on March 30, 2010, 11:22:26 AM
I think also that MJ always respected people who were creative, worked hard, and who he could identify with as far as the moguls in the entertainment system manipulating and controlling them for money. That includes illuminati agents. Like he said in his famous "angry black man's speech" that they were all being robbed and put down. Yesterday I was talking with my boss about Lady Gaga being very creative and having a good side to her, and he said also Madonna had a good side, too (although MJ thought she was jealous and slutty early on). She later adopted poor children and wrote many children's books, somewhat based on her experiences. I just saw the interview where Latoya speaks out on how she herself was controlled and forced to pose for porn by her former husband, and lie about Michael's guilt. He also beat her many times. When she broke free, she could retell her true experiences of how she felt powerless to escape, and of Michael's innocence. Michael is a good judge of character and senses who is friend or foe, regardless of the outer appearance. This whole "greatest demonstration for freedom" may be on many levels.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nynyro on March 30, 2010, 09:27:18 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I think also that MJ always respected people who were creative, worked hard, and who he could identify with as far as the moguls in the entertainment system manipulating and controlling them for money. That includes illuminati agents. Like he said in his famous "angry black man's speech" that they were all being robbed and put down. Yesterday I was talking with my boss about Lady Gaga being very creative and having a good side to her, and he said also Madonna had a good side, too (although MJ thought she was jealous and slutty early on). She later adopted poor children and wrote many children's books, somewhat based on her experiences. I just saw the interview where Latoya speaks out on how she herself was controlled and forced to pose for porn by her former husband, and lie about Michael's guilt. He also beat her many times. When she broke free, she could retell her true experiences of how she felt powerless to escape, and of Michael's innocence.  Michael is a good judge of character and senses who is friend or foe, regardless of the outer appearance. This whole "greatest demonstration for freedom" may be on many levels.
You make a good point.  I especially agree with the bolded.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: JukeBox on March 31, 2010, 07:08:17 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I think also that MJ always respected people who were creative, worked hard, and who he could identify with as far as the moguls in the entertainment system manipulating and controlling them for money. That includes illuminati agents. Like he said in his famous "angry black man's speech" that they were all being robbed and put down. Yesterday I was talking with my boss about Lady Gaga being very creative and having a good side to her

I would agree with this. it's pretty interesting to see people pass a judgment on Lady Gaga, calling her disgusting and lewd and whatnot. it's really undeniable she's making bold statements with her appearance and her works. somehow it reminds me of the time when Black or White came out and some people were so offended by one of Michael's dance move where he sort of caresses the area around his crotch (sorry i tried to think very hard to phrase this in a nice way, i hope it doesn't sound offending). We all know he's always been comfortable with placing his hand in that area for many of his dance moves. I'm just saying, different people can have different opinions on what's lewd or not, but since they are artists, it's probably preferable to just look at the work itself without attaching any moral judgments to it.

that said, i don't really think Lady Gaga is an illuminati puppet, in fact she just might be exposing them. And would she get punished for it? i don't know, just look at how people are sliming her already. It's so easy to turn the public against her, so easy to spread hate about her, too easy to label her as evil. sounds familiar yet? JMO tho. everyone's entitled to have one.
L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: this1crazygirl on March 31, 2010, 08:33:01 AM
a few years ago I was on the NYC subway with a birthday cake to surprise a friend, with a friend along with me. A young man got on the train and pulled his pants down and walked through the train. I had my foot ready to kick him smack in the bare azz when he got to me but he moved to the other side of the train. My friend was looking at me like, were you going to kick him? I said yes, he offends me with exposing his azz, so I'ma offend him by kicking his azz... (with decisions come consequences) luckily a man screamed out pull up your pants before I call the cops, don't nobody want to see your dirty azz LOL...

the point is with every action is a reaction. people who are ready to make statements, should be ready to face the scrutiny, because it comes with the territory. WHEN YOU MAKE BOLD STATEMENTS, BE READY FOR BOLD RESPONSES.

I have never been offended by a MJ's performance, which is a totally different experience than a Gaga or Lambert performance
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Tink.I.Am on March 31, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
there is a connection between lady gaga and michael and his name is Rodney Jerkins.

Lady Gaga has been compared to Michael Jackson by her music producer.
Rodney Jerkins, who worked with Gaga on her latest song "Telephone" - which was estimated to received over one billion views on the Internet - said she reminds him of Michael Jackson, whom he worked with on the "Thriller" singers 2001 album "Invincible."

Jerkins told People.com: "We haven't seen an artist like Gaga in a long time - we haven't seen an artist that really has no fear. I remember Michael Jackson used to tell me he was crucified for doing 'Thriller', but he had to do what he felt was needed at that time. I'm just happy to be part of history.

"I've always wanted to leave my stamp on music, and to be able to say that I worked with Michael Jackson and now I'm working with Lady Gaga, who'll probably go down in history as one of the best female entertainers of all time ."

He also talked about how he found the initial task of marrying together the "street" sound which Beyonce - who sings a verse of "Telephone" - wanted with the disco theme the rest of the track has.

He explained: "When I got on the phone with Beyonce, she was telling me she wanted her verses to have a hood, street element, and I actually was caught off-guard. I wondered, 'How am I going to do that? How am I going to make a disco/techno record and create a hood, street anthem vibe for her verse?'

"But once I got to the studio, it just kind of came to me."

as of 03/30/2010 7:53 Pm
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Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: steffmaster1 on March 31, 2010, 11:41:17 AM
hes been friends with mj and janet for ages he may be in on it interesting words from him how mj did thriller which was not liked by some and ga ga did telephone vid raunchy and hated by some again both extreme but will go down in history  :D
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: ROFL on March 31, 2010, 07:18:50 PM
Please tell me in what way is she exposing them ? By promoting what they want ?Wow what a good way to expose them HAHAHA you're all cracking me up
People who expose them are actually being killed or "censored" or not promoted like Lupe Fiasco , 2pac , even Mj
If she was not "one of them" , she wouldn't  have all this huge success. Sad indeed.

All of you people saying she wants to expose them are DELUSIONAL. Period.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: chrisman on August 03, 2010, 01:09:25 AM
Hey guys. Didnt realize this blew up so much. Did you find any 'revolt' against all the evils in Off the Wall or Thriller ?
Because you have to understand. If Gaga was in on something. She has to kinda play the part of a celeb. and what we expect. A show. Think about that. She's fairly new.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: chrisman on November 02, 2010, 09:44:29 PM
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Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: nick_93 on November 03, 2010, 12:20:57 AM
I really like JukeBox's post, I thought that summed up my opinion pretty well. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion but there is a lot of things people forget about Lady Gaga. Also, it's a bit hypocritical of some to judge her and find her negative side without having met her. This is especially so because she is labelled as being different. As someone said before, sound familiar? I guess we may or may not ever know the truth about Gaga and the Illuminati, but at least we don't at the moment. I'm still a bit skeptical on it all but being a Gaga fan, I really hope there is some sort of explanation for the Illuminati imagery in her work. But with what people forget about Gaga. She does ALOT for the gay community. And coming from a disgruntled childhood, her image and her work provides an outlet for her "different" fans who may have a variety of factors which put them up against the social norms. This is why she is "Mother monster" and she has her "little monsters" so she can help those who are struggling find their inner differences and freakish side with herself. She was bullied and picked on in High School for doing things differently and being "out there", but this is just her, which I think is harsh for people to judge her on considering what Michael went through. I think it also worth considering that maybe she has no say in the photo shoots and videos of which she is in that represent this imagery and possibly is an ulterior motive from someone who actually is in the Illuminati? This may be seem far fetched but I'm really hoping there is some sort of explanation into that imagery because I really like the upside that I see in Lady Gaga.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga,Beyonce and Michael in the next part?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on November 25, 2010, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: "nick_93"
I really like JukeBox's post, I thought that summed up my opinion pretty well. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion but there is a lot of things people forget about Lady Gaga. Also, it's a bit hypocritical of some to judge her and find her negative side without having met her. This is especially so because she is labelled as being different. As someone said before, sound familiar? I guess we may or may not ever know the truth about Gaga and the Illuminati, but at least we don't at the moment. I'm still a bit skeptical on it all but being a Gaga fan, I really hope there is some sort of explanation for the Illuminati imagery in her work. But with what people forget about Gaga. She does ALOT for the gay community. And coming from a disgruntled childhood, her image and her work provides an outlet for her "different" fans who may have a variety of factors which put them up against the social norms. This is why she is "Mother monster" and she has her "little monsters" so she can help those who are struggling find their inner differences and freakish side with herself. She was bullied and picked on in High School for doing things differently and being "out there", but this is just her, which I think is harsh for people to judge her on considering what Michael went through. I think it also worth considering that maybe she has no say in the photo shoots and videos of which she is in that represent this imagery and possibly is an ulterior motive from someone who actually is in the Illuminati? This may be seem far fetched but I'm really hoping there is some sort of explanation into that imagery because I really like the upside that I see in Lady Gaga.

She not different at all from all the mainstream 'artists' we see today like Beyonce, Rihanna, Jay Z etc. And that's exactly what my point is. She's just supporting the satanic agenda like most of today's populair 'artists'. So she may look 'different' on the surfac but in mean while she's just the same illuminati puppet as many others.
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