Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
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4-7. The Red Shirt & “777”
A close-up picture of this shirt, with the “777” on it, was the redirect for February 22 (2-22); this was done that day, because 777 + 222 = 999. The following comment (from user ILikeTrains) is very good, and the reason for redirecting to that specific reply: “Anyway, the most amazing thing, I think, about this shirt, is not the fact the 777 is there, it’s the fact it wasn’t there for all of rehearsal. He purposely had someone glue rhinestones on his shirt for it to say 777. He could of had ANYTHING on there. There’s a definite reason for the 777 to be on that shirt ... One of the biggest clues in my book.” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255)}
In the TII DVD: you can clearly see the red shirt with “777” on it in chapter #13; but in chapter #20, you can clearly see that there is no “777” on the same shirt. So our attention is drawn to the “777” as much or more than the shirt itself.
And this red shirt is so important, that it was in the first photo from TII; it was also in the first video clip released from the TII rehearsals (TDRCAU). And this red shirt can be seen about ten times in the TII movie poster.
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4-8. Numbers 4 Evil & Numbers 4 Good
Just like words, numbers can be used for good or evil. The number 7 is a special number in the Bible, and it often represents completion or perfection (good). Nevertheless, there are times when this number refers to evil—such as the evil beast with “seven heads and ten horns” (Revelation 17:3; etc).
On the other hand, the number 6—and especially 666—is often associated with evil (see Revelation 13:18). Yet even the number 666 is used in the Bible as merely a quantity of children, and not an evil mystical number (see Ezra 2:13).
Therefore, in order to determine whether a number is used for evil or good, we must consider the context and purpose of its usage; basically the same thing that we do to determine whether words are used for evil or good.
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4-9. Why Does 7 Represent Perfection?
God has infinite wisdom, and has reasons for everything He does. Therefore, why does the number 7 represent perfection: was it just a random number, drawn out of a hat—or is there a reason for it?
Man-made things are often based on squares, rectangles, and/or other 90 degree changes in direction (boxes, books, doors, walls, buildings, etc). Things that God made in nature are usually based on circles and curves, but not 90 degree angles (eyes, flowers, fruits, planets, orbits, etc). In fact, when geologists or archaeologists find something that is square or rectangle, they are almost certain that it’s man-made.
A circle is a perfect and complete curve. But what does the number 7 have to do with a circle? Take 7 circles of the same size (like seven identical coins): put one in the centre, and the rest around the centre. You will find that all 7 circles are contacting each other; if you remove 1, or add 1, it will not work. Also, the perimeter of the seven circles is the same shape (circle) as the 7 smaller shapes; so the pattern could be repeated endlessly.
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Thus 7 represents God’s complete and perfect system: He is in the centre, and is in direct contact with all 6 around the centre. This system can also be seen in the creation story, as well as the Ten Commandments: there are 6 days for man, and 1 day for God—the 7th (see Genesis 1 & 2; Exodus 20:8-11). In this 7 system, God is the leader.
However, Satan comes along and decides to remove God, then all you have left is 6; and he takes over as the new leader. But he re-arranges the 6 into a pyramid, with him on top and layers below; no longer is everyone in direct contact with the leader. This is also an accurate representation of the people (bottom) being afraid of the government (top). Like the circles, the perimeter is the same shape (triangle) as the 6 smaller shapes.
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If you turn the pyramid system upside down, you have a system where the government (bottom) is afraid of the people (top): V for Vendetta. And the 666 has been turned into a 999!
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This system is not as good as the first system (7 circles); but it is much better than the 666 system. Nevertheless, the 7 circles system can’t possibly exist as long as there are people who don’t want God (all the circles around the centre have to be in contact with the centre, or else it’s neither perfect nor complete); so we can’t expect that to happen until God sets up His own eternal kingdom (see 4-25). The struggle right now is between the 666 system, the New World Order (NWO)—and the 999 system, where the people control the government (army of LOVE).
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4-10. Rounding: Down, Nearest Whole, and Up
As we will see in detail next (4-11), it was 77 days from the “death” on June 25 to 9-9-09; and it was 7 days from the “burial” to 9-9-09. Although I posted this half of a year ago, almost nobody understood it. So the subject got dropped, even though it is probably the single strongest proof of hoax, not murder; and also it very clearly shows one of the main reasons for the hoax: to turn the 666 NWO upside down, 999!
Since almost nobody understood it, I am redoing it now with a lot more detail. One of the things that was not clear for many, is the Biblical counting system known as “inclusive reckoning”; you must use this system to arrive at 77 days and 7 days to 9-9-09. For example, most people would count September 3 (burial) to September 9 (9-9-09) as 6 days; but with inclusive reckoning, you basically start counting with 1, not 0 (you include the first day in the count).
When I posted this last fall, someone asked: then does 6 equal 7? No; but 6.1 equals 7. You see, inclusive reckoning is merely a system of rounding up to the next whole number (so anything from 1.1 to 1.9 would be rounded up to 2). Today, we usually round to the nearest whole number (1.1 to 1.4 rounded to 1; and 1.5 to 1.9 rounded to 2). And if not the nearest whole, we generally round down (1.1 to 1.9 rounded to 1).
Rounding up was a common system in Bible days, and MJ is very familiar with the Bible. In fact, this system is most well known in reference to the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ!
1 Corinthians 15:3,4, “Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (see also Matthew 20:19; Mark 9:31; 10:34; Luke 18:33; 24:7,6; etc).
Jesus died and was buried on Friday (day #1), rested on the Sabbath (day #2), and rose on Sunday (day #3). There are many other Biblical examples of inclusive reckoning (read carefully Luke 13:32; Acts 10:3,9,23,24,30); but I will not take up anymore space here.
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4-11. 77 & 7 Days From the “Death”, & “Burial” to the “Resurrection”
To follow this, you need to understand that the “resurrection” of MJ refers to 9-9-09 (the reasons and evidence for this will be explained later); the resurrection is not the same as when the general public all know that he is alive (bam).
Everyone knows that the “death” was on 6-25-09, and the “burial” was on 9-3-09. Using inclusive reckoning (shown below): it is 77 days from 6-25-09 to 9-9-09, and 7 days from 9-3-09 to 9-9-09.
September 3 = day 1
September 4 = day 2
September 5 = day 3
September 6 = day 4
September 7 = day 5
September 8 = day 6
September 9 = day 7
It would take up too much space here to show the 77 for June 25 to September 9; but you can take any calendar, and count the days starting with “1” on June 25. You don’t even need a 2009 calendar for it to work; you’ll still end up at September 9, it just won’t be 9-9-09. But MJ chose 2009 as the year, because that year would be three 9’s (as well as other reasons).
Full moon came on 7-7 in 2009, the day of the memorial; it was the first time since 1952 that there was a full moon on July 7, and it won’t happen again for decades {http://fullmooncalendar.net/ (http://fullmooncalendar.net/)}. This is another reason for the fake death being in 2009. Furthermore, full moon came also on September 4 in 2009—just one day after the burial! And if you looked at the moon with the naked eye on September 3 (night of the burial): it looked full. Do you remember seeing the full moon in Thriller—both the original version {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA), at 2:10}, and also in the TII version {TII DVD, at 59:19, 59:37, etc}?
Speaking of the burial: why was it delayed for sooooooo loooooooooooooong????? Even the memorial on July 7, less than two weeks after the death, seemed like a little long; but why did it take more than TWO MONTHS for the burial? And remember, after waiting forever for the burial, it was finally planned for MJ’s birthday: Saturday, August 29 {http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/18/michael-jackson-burial-announced/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/18/michael-jackson-burial-announced/)}. But then the burial was “pushed to [Monday] August 31, because there are things the family needs to get in order before Michael is laid to rest.” {http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/20/michael-jackson-burial-postponed-joe-jackson/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/20/michael-jackson-burial-postponed-joe-jackson/)} What? After more than two months, the family still needed more time??
Then it had to be pushed back again: “... August 31 -- became problematic because of schools re-opening on that day.” {http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/21/michael-jackson-burial-september-3/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/21/michael-jackson-burial-september-3/)} So they had the burial on Tuesday, September 1? Or Wednesday, September 2? No! I guess school re-opened for three days in a row that year! And if they did not want to do it on a school day at all: then why not Friday evening or Saturday—the previous plan for burial on MJ’s birthday would have been on a Saturday, remember (August 29)?
And if MJ was really dead, but for whatever reason the family wanted his burial to be on a full moon: then why didn’t they have it on Friday, September 4? There is one very clear reason for all of these things: it’s 7 days (inclusive) from 9-3-09 to 9-9-09!
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4-12. Number 9 Represents Regeneration (Resurrection)
Of all the single-digit numbers from 1 to 9, the last one (9) is the only one which is always regenerated. Take 9 and multiply it by another single digit; then take the numbers in the answer, add them together, and you will have 9 again. For example: 9 x 9 = 81 (the digit “9” is gone, it “died”); but then add 8 + 1, and the answer is 9 (the “9” was “resurrected”)! And the same is true for 9 x 8, 7 x 9, 9 x 5, 3 x 9, etc {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine}.
But this does not work consistently with any of the other single-digit numbers. For example, 5 x 4 = 20; but 2 + 0 is not 5 or 4. Or 8 x 6 = 48; but 4 + 8 = 12 (and 1 + 2 = 3), the answer is neither 8 nor 6. Or 7 x 7 = 49; but 4 + 9 = 13 (and 1 + 3 = 4), not 7. Yes, 3 x 4 = 12; and 1 + 2 = 3. But it doesn’t work with 3 x 5 (15, 1 + 5 = 6); etc. Therefore, more than any other number, the number 9 represents regeneration (or resurrection).
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4-13. MJ “1998” Autographs
Several of MJ’s autographs included the number 1998, three circles, and an arrow {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6643 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6643); http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9uZxWu1slE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9uZxWu1slE); http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22michael+jackson+1998%22&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22michael+jackson+1998%22&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq)}. There is also one autograph, on the Dangerous cover, that is similar—yet it has some kind of formula, or code. Before going into any detail about the meaning of that Dangerous code, let’s look at the other autographs: 1998, three circles, and an arrow.
1998 is an interesting number, that can be divided evenly by only these single-digit numbers: 1998 / 2 = 999; 1998 / 3 = 666; 1998 / 6 = 333; and 1998 / 9 = 222. If you add 222 (that last one) to 777 (red shirt), you have 999. The first one is 999 itself; and the other two added together equal 999 (666 + 333). Also, if you add the first digit (1) to the last three (998), you have 999 (1 + 998 = 999). And if you add all four digits, it reduces to 9 (1 + 9 + 9 + 8 = 27; 2 + 7 = 9). Even if we had nothing else to go by, just the 1998 alone should point us pretty clearly to 9-9-09; but there is far more.
For a code to be of real value, it has to be neither too simple nor too complex. If it is too simple, it would not be hidden (not a code); and if too complex, it will never be understood and therefore useless. MJ could have signed 999; but that would’ve been too simple. Or he could’ve used highly complex trigonometry equations; but very few of his fans would ever understand it, not even if it was explained to them. Therefore, he used a code between those two extremes.
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4-14. The Autograph Code on “Dangerous”
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There are several unique things about this Dangerous autograph, different than the other 1998 autographs: #1 the arrow points down, not diagonal or up; #2 there is different symbol which points up (^); #3 there is a division symbol; #4 there is a number 4; #5 the three repeating digits are vertical, not horizontal; #6 at least two of the three repeating digits look more like 6’s than circles.
On the other autographs: the arrow is diagonally upward, and can obviously represent resurrection (on 9-9-09); in this case, the arrow is down and would represent the death. But you also have the resurrection here, with the upward pointing caret (^). However, these symbols are part of the equation, as well: start with the 1998, go down (subtract) by 666 = 1332; then insert this answer (caret means insert) into the last part: 1332 / 4 = 333.
Of what significance is 333? It is the exact number needed to turn the NWO 666 pyramid upside-down; 666 + 333 = 999!!! In fact, that is why the three digits on the dangerous code are vertical, not horizontal; they represent the vertical layering system of the pyramid (666), and then turned upside down (999).
Some have thought that one or more of the vertical digits in the Dangerous autograph are zeros, not sixes; however, the top two digits are much closer to a six than a zero—and even the bottom digit has a small hook if you look carefully. MJ is not careless, and he was not writing sloppy zeros; in fact, notice that if anything, his zeros have a gap on the top—not an overlap and hook. So it’s three sixes, just written so that it would not be very obvious—both because it is a code, and also because 666 might scare some people if they didn’t realize the purpose for it in this context.
Remember also that I explained the meaning of the 1998 and Dangerous autograph before 9-9-09 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924&p=27558#p27893 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924&p=27558#p27893)}. So I was not merely looking at a past event, and trying to force the code to fit into something that is history (such as some have done). Oh and by the way: this Dangerous autograph redirect was done on 3-3, 2010 (2 + 0 + 1 + 0 = 3); and again, 1998 – 666 = 1332; 1332 / 4 = 333!
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4-15. MJ “Resurrection” Before “Return”
At this point, to understand what did and did not happen on 9-9-09, we need to recognize the difference between the MJ “resurrection” (on 9-9-09), and the MJ “return”—which is now in progress, and will be completed suddenly with the “bam!” (discussed much more below, see 4-39).
In TII, the remake of Thriller has a Black Widow spider pop up in the graveyard; and then afterward it comes out on stage. While on stage, MJ comes out of the spider; so we know that MJ is also represented as being inside the spider, even while it’s still in the graveyard—the graveyard “resurrection” (9-9-09). But you can’t see MJ yet, not until the later phase when the spider comes on stage; only after that, can people actually see him.
By the way: watch TII, and you will see that the death hoax film clip (Gilda remake), comes before the resurrection film clip (Thriller remake). Either this is yet another one of the almost infinite MJ “coincidences”; or else this sequence was planned, because you can’t have a resurrection until after the death!
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4-16. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”
From TIAI Revealed, clear back in December 2009, I wrote: “... keep watching, we will yet see more developments regarding 9-9-09 and the hoax.” {Part 6; explanation of R26, posted on 12-22-09; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1929&p=27570#p27570)}
And then on February 7, just one day before the autopsy report was released to the public, I wrote: “... keep watching for the 9-9-09 update. It will show very strong evidence of the hoax, and against the murder theory—as well as further evidence that TIAI (STUDY) has genuine hoax information (and is not a fake informer).” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=5024&p=78302#p78302 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=5024&p=78302#p78302)}
When the report was released, everyone could see that the very last thing on the whole report said: “9-9-09, Date Finalized”. Was this a coincidence? There are several dates in the report: most of them in June or July, and a few in August; the latest date (other than the “Date Finalized”) is 8-19-09.
It is theoretically possible that this 9-9-09 date is a coincidence, but not likely for two main reasons. I mentioned the date one day before the report was released. And far more significant, is the resurrection aspect. Imagine if there was a real death, and a real resurrection; you would need a dead body to do an autopsy, so you wouldn’t be doing autopsy work on someone after they were resurrected! So the MJ “resurrection” could only happen once the autopsy was finalized: 9-9-09!
It’s amazing how many were shaken or lost faith over this report—in spite of the fact that the coroner has been part of hoax theories from the beginning: moving body in the helicopter taken to the coroner; coroner van video; Craig Harvey, etc.
Aside from the 9-9-09 resurrection aspect of the coroner’s report, there are numerous other fishy things—too many for me to discuss here. But for those interested: here are links to the report, as well as forum discussion and YouTube videos, all on the autopsy subject
{http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson1.html (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson1.html);
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_mj_case_report_wm.pdf (http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0208_mj_case_report_wm.pdf);
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/08/michael-jackson-coroners-report-propofol-cause-of-death-homicide-dr-conrad-murray/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/08/michael-jackson-coroners-report-propofol-cause-of-death-homicide-dr-conrad-murray/);
http://i50.tinypic.com/2937pma.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/2937pma.jpg);
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4113&hilit=hazel&start=100#p65189 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4113&hilit=hazel&start=100#p65189);
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5423 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5423);
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=5676 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=5676);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-7BoWyeJw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-7BoWyeJw);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNf54sftjPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNf54sftjPM)}.
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4-17. “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09
There were three main steps in the process of revealing this movie to the public: the movie poster, the movie trailer, and the full movie. Let’s look at the timing of all three steps.
Although the poster may have surfaced unofficially a little early: it was not posted on the official MJ website, until Wednesday 9-9-09! {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/news/michael-jacksons-it-movie-poster}. And remember, this is the poster with about 10 different red shirt pictures—reminding us of the 777 (77 from death to 9-9-09, and 7 from burial to 9-9-09).
For the sake of publicity, the movie trailer was released at the MTV VMA. The timing here is controlled by MTV, and the VMA has only once been held on a Wednesday September 9 {in 1992, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Awards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Awards)}; so it’s not surprising that the trailer was not released on 9-9-09, or any significant date related to 9-9-09. The tickets did go on sale, though, on 9-27-09 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson's_This_Is_It (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson's_This_Is_It)}; the 27th of course reduces to 9 (2 + 7 = 9).
The movie itself was originally scheduled to open on Friday, October 30; but they moved it to Wednesday, October 28. {http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/this-is-it (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/this-is-it)} Although movies do open sometimes on a Wednesday, Friday is the more common day {http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1W1SUNA_en&q=%22movies+open+on+friday&aq=f&oq=&aqi (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1W1SUNA_en&q=%22movies+open+on+friday&aq=f&oq=&aqi)}.
Notice that 9-9-09 was a Wednesday, and the official opening date was on Wednesday (10-28-09)—exactly 7 weeks after 9-9-09!! Also, the movie was originally scheduled to run for only 2 weeks—which would bring it up to 9 weeks from 9-9-09!!! And from the original Thriller: “… see you next Wednesday!” {Thriller video at 3:31, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVi7xiKtJF4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVi7xiKtJF4)} “The line [‘see you next Wednesday’] is also mentioned in the opening scene for Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller’ when the police decode a message from Jackson’s werewolf character.” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Landis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Landis); also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_You_Next_Wednesday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/See_You_Next_Wednesday); and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller)}
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4-18. Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09
Jermaine had his MJ Tribute press conference in London on 9-9-09! {http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621118/20090910/jackson_michael.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621118/20090910/jackson_michael.jhtml); also http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/09/10/jermaine-jackson-insists-blige-and-brown-booked-for-tribute/ (http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/09/10/jermaine-jackson-insists-blige-and-brown-booked-for-tribute/), and http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jermaine+jackson+london&search_type=&aq=f (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jermaine+jackson+london&search_type=&aq=f)} London??? Yes, London—exactly where “This Is It” concerts were originally scheduled; and also where the O2 press conference was held on March 5, 2009 {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo)}. However, half of a year later, the MJ Tribute is still listed as “coming soon” {http://www.thetribute2010.com/ (http://www.thetribute2010.com/)}. So what are the chances that this announcement in London just happened to be on 9-9-09?
In the original set of redirects, R44 was a picture of “99” (on 12-16 & 12-17)—which was 99 days from 9-9-09 (inclusive on the 16th, and standard on the 17th). Two days later, TMZ posted this video of La Toya Jackson Christmas shopping (although posted on the 18th, she did the actual shopping during the “99” redirect). At 0:47, the camera points to a “9.99” price tag for about 5 seconds {http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/18/la-toya-jackson-chris-brown-tiger-woods-target-christmas-holiday-shopping-video/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/18/la-toya-jackson-chris-brown-tiger-woods-target-christmas-holiday-shopping-video/)}
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4-19. Stock Market Bottom on 3-6: 666!
Several people wondered what the stock market redirects had to do with MJ and the hoax. Some recognized that it had to do with the NWO generating the recession, in order to get the money out of the hands of the general public; and this is true, but that is not the only reason for these redirects.
Those who read TIAI Revealed, Part 9 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1933&p=27592#p27592 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1933&p=27592#p27592)}, may have understood at least some of the other reasons for the economy redirects. Very well known, from the book of Revelation, is 666 and the mark of the beast (see Revelation 13 & 14). The mark is related to finances: “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark …” (13:17). Here is another verse, which connects 666 with money: “Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold” (1 Kings 10:14; see 2 Chronicles 9:13).
The USA has the largest economy in the world, and the S&P 500 (not Dow) is “the most reliable measure of the broader market” {http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7468215 (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=7468215)}? The S&P 500 hit a low of 666 on 3-6 (three 6’s) {http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=%7bD2687B35-8BC2-4AA9-A2D4-A004E3E15AF1%7d (http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story.asp?StoryId=%7bD2687B35-8BC2-4AA9-A2D4-A004E3E15AF1%7d)}. This was the bottom point in the worst recession since the great depression; and in fact many people were calling it the verge of financial “Armageddon” (another end-of-the-world term from Revelation).
Was it a coincidence, that the bottom was 666 on 3-6? No, I’m going to show you that it was the hand of God. The devil and the NWO powers were trying to destroy the economy; and God allowed it—that is, until reaching 666, to show that it was the powers of evil doing it (and also to warn about that the mark of the beast). Then God said enough is enough, and stepped in to turn things around.
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4-20 The Idiot-Maker Rally Started on 3-9
It is possible for the devil to work miracles (see Revelation 13:14; 16:14); but in this case it was not Satan who turned the economy around, because he wanted it to get much worse. Also, only God has the power to do genuine healing; if it was the devil that started healing the economy a year ago, it would not be genuine healing—and therefore it wouldn’t last very long, and the economy would end up worse than before the fake healing.
But the improving stock market and general economy has lasted for a whole year now; and it made a lot of economic professionals look like idiots—the “idiot-maker rally” {http://www.philstockworld.com/2010/01/08/the-idiot-maker-rally-continues/ (http://www.philstockworld.com/2010/01/08/the-idiot-maker-rally-continues/)}.
This is because it looked like a “bear market rally”, or a “dead cat bounce”; and soon the market would fall again, even worse than the March 6 lows. But it never happened. A few economists are still saying that the big collapse is imminent, worse than a year ago; but even though there will be ups and downs, a major collapse won’t happen (not until the real Armageddon)—because it was God who turned the economy around, and when God does something nothing can stop Him!
On October 12, 2009, Aaron Task from the Yahoo Tech Ticker said: “… the speed of the rally is unprecedented. Fifty plus percent in six months has never happened before in US history.” {http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/352341/Shifting-to-Defense-%22Quality-Is-on-Sale%22-But-Few-Stocks-Cheap-Tilson-Says?tickers=MSFT,PFE,YHOO,HUN,%5EDJI,%5EGSPC,AIG (http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/352341/Shifting-to-Defense-%22Quality-Is-on-Sale%22-But-Few-Stocks-Cheap-Tilson-Says?tickers=MSFT,PFE,YHOO,HUN,%5EDJI,%5EGSPC,AIG)}.
“… Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever … he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:” (Daniel 2:20,21). God is fully capable of controlling world events. And in this case, the 666 low came on 3-6, which was only one day after the March 5 press conference in London. March 6 was a Friday, so the 7th and 8th were the weekend; but after the low on Friday, Monday March 9 was the start of the fastest six-month rally in US history. And just in case you still think it could’ve been a coincidence: this “resurrection” in the economy, on 3-9-09, was exactly 6 months before the 9-9-09 MJ “resurrection”!
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4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom
Now that we have seen both 777 and 999 used repeatedly in relation to TII, the death, the burial, and the resurrection—let’s examine what happens if we add these numbers: 777 + 999 = 1776! For everyone in the USA, and many around the world, this number is instantly recognized as the year of the US Declaration of Independence: July 4, 1776 {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence)}. Could this have anything to do with the hoax?
Remember the MLK statement in TDRCAU: “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom [independence] in the history of our nation [USA].” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts)} Does this mean that the hoax is mainly for people in the USA, and not around the world? No; MJ merely used things that already existed about the USA (MLK, and July 4) to represent the whole world. He also used London (O2), and V for Vendetta parallels (in London)—but the hoax is not mainly for England.
Speaking of V for Vendetta parallels, that was one of the recent redirects. Both V and MJ spoke in London, with a red curtain background, wearing black, and for the purpose of freedom from corrupt elites in the government, etc.
And did you notice the fireworks in V for Vendetta? Well, you can also see fireworks in the TII DVD—both on stage, just before Light Man, and also projected in the video shown during Light Man {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY); http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m10VO3DPICBZT5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m10VO3DPICBZT5)}. Furthermore, you can see very obvious red, white, and blue on Light Man immediately before the fireworks. Anyone from the USA will instantly know that these colors are unquestionably linked to the fourth of July, known as Independence Day {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(United_States))}.
The fifth of November is basically “Independence Day” in V for Vendetta; and exactly 4 months later, on March 5, MJ had his London press conference. Between the death on June 25, and the memorial on July 7, there is one and only one date that stands out on the American calendar: July 4! This day was also about 4 months after March 5, and about 4 months before November 5. MJ probably would’ve done the London press conference on November 5, except that would’ve been too early—and probably a little too obvious.
We do know that the very last words at the O2 press conference were: “... see you in July!” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo)} Does this mean that Bamsday is July 4, 2010? Not necessarily; remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date. Nevertheless, he was not referring to July 2009—since that was long before 9-9-09, and certainly Bamsday would not be two months before the “resurrection”!
TIAI Update #4c is next. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7124 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=7124)}
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Absolutely brilliant and so carefully planned...! Thanks again TS, this will keep people going!
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well.. thanks for the update Ts.. it was a nice explanation about the numbers theory.
Here we don't assume that someone knows MJ or the way he thinks etc etc.. so when someone post things like "He doesn't like" or "He means that.." we always say "yu don't know, no one knows it". So.. do you know him? because in each update I see that you use those kind of terms to explain your point of view and put your words in Michael mouth..if you do know him, then fine! thanks for bringing the message!!... But if you don't, please write properly without putting your thoughts in Michaels mouth.
I wanna make clear that this is not a bashing comment in anyway, I respect everybody work even when I agree or disagree.. every comment or opinion is good for look into an answer.. but I'll treat TS just the same way we treat each other, and when some other member uses his thought as if he/she knew Michael we alwayas say the same.. do you know him?
So, I hope TS that you read our posts as we read yours.
Lots of L.O.V.E!
BTW: congrats to the one that posted the 4th of july thing in the update 4a :P you were right!
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Thank you TS. Looking forward for the next one ...
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TS thank you so much. Solo per amore di oggi e di sempre.
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Thank you for this, but I need a lot of time to read it. Seems very interesting.
L.O.V.E.
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This update made my day! GREAT job, as always! Thank you , TS!
Michael is a genius 8-)
Can't wait for TIAI update #c !!!!!
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it very clearly shows one of the main reasons for the hoax: to turn the 666 NWO upside down, 999!
Thanks! Great post as always! :D
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Thanks TS :)
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"it very clearly shows one of the main reasons for the hoax: to turn the 666 NWO upside down, 999!"
"Remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date."
Once again...Thank you, TS !
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"it very clearly shows one of the main reasons for the hoax: to turn the 666 NWO upside down, 999!"
"Remember, we should not get our hopes up for any specific date."
Once again...Thank you, TS !
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Thanks, TS!!!!! ;)
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WOW TS ,
Thank you so much !!!!!! :D
You are amazing 8-)
L.O.V.E.
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About the turning 666 into 999..with the upside-down pyramid "If you turn the pyramid system upside down, you have a system where the government (bottom) is afraid of the people (top): V for Vendetta. And the 666 has been turned into a 999!"
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Check out this thread!!
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7003 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7003)
hmmmmm....nothing 100%, just...interesting, mmh-yeesss
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Thank you so much,TS.
Now the role of digit is much clearer to me :lol:
Such an incredible Revolution!
STUDY PEACE&L.O.V.E.
GOD BLESS:)
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(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4954/michaeljackson1776.jpg) (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/michaeljackson1776.jpg/)
Once more TS: Thank you! God bless your nice work & you!
I'm working, but I'll read w/attention, to understand all informations you gave me!
We all united keep me a BELIEVER, worried but BELIEVING, LOVING & PRAYING...
As said my friend @MJalive999 ASK WHY not WHEN...NEVER UNDERESTIMATE MICHAEL JACKSON OR THE POWER OF LOVE!
L.O.V.E. & FAITH FOR ALL!! & REMEMBER "THE BEST IS YET TO COME...SOONEST(I hope so...) :D
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6466/michaeljackson516.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/michaeljackson516.jpg/)
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thanks so much again TS so much for thought and processing ...it will keep my brain going!!
well takecare and love to all
Michelle
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TS u're amazing...keep posting...keep helping members to: KEEP THE FAITH! ;)
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Thank You! <3
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I've read it with all my attention. I'm pretty sure that this update will help those who still think numbers are BS. It could not be clearer than this.
Thank you so much.
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Very good explanations regarding the number theory. As you said it this world cannot be perfect without the Presence of God and until the establishment of His Kingdom. But by inverted the pyramid we can make it a better place. 999!!!
Good job done. God bless you.
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hahahah thank you great post TS a knew that : :lol:
Re: 999
Postby _EarthSonG_ » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:11 am
999 it's 666 upside down ...the devil will be broke, the devil will change side and become JUSTICE and PEACE
hahaha well i really hope so !
PEACE
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I think Mo pointed this out but in the promo video for TII with the dancers and prisoners, they formed an upside down pyramid and then the peace sign. Wow, all of this stuff is coming together. Thanks TS for this very interesting information.
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About the turning 666 into 999..with the upside-down pyramid "If you turn the pyramid system upside down, you have a system where the government (bottom) is afraid of the people (top): V for Vendetta. And the 666 has been turned into a 999!"
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Check out this thread!!
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7003 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7003)
hmmmmm....nothing 100%, just...interesting, mmh-yeesss
Thanks for posting this thread. Very interesting theory.
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Thanks TS, amazing information, I love how your brain works :D
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TS, Thank you. Correct decision leaving out the trig equations. I don't think I can take much more. ;)
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Thanks TS.! MJ did say that he wanted his funeral to have fireworks and everything so... Doesn't fourth of July have to do with fireworks.? Hhehe we are getting there
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About the turning 666 into 999..with the upside-down pyramid "If you turn the pyramid system upside down, you have a system where the government (bottom) is afraid of the people (top): V for Vendetta. And the 666 has been turned into a 999!"
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Check out this thread!!
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... =17&t=7003 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7003)
hmmmmm....nothing 100%, just...interesting, mmh-yeesss
Thanks for posting this thread. Very interesting theory.
Hehe, that's my thread :D
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Thank you for this post. Everything makes so much sense :D
I hope everyone has a blessed day!
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With every new update I see more brilliancy! I can't believe how well planned this is.
Thanks again TS!
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Good day TS. Thanks for the explanation of the numbers. I follow you and your posts because you have been both thoughtful and thought-provoking. When you break it down, it seems so simple and manageable to absorb. I think a lot of us are eagerly awaiting the next posts. So, even though you obviously don't need it, I am sending you uplifting energy for completion of your work. One Love.
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Oh my :shock:
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A perfect circle... Thank you.
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Again, TS . . . thank you for your stimulating post! I love wrapping my mind around this delineation of the numbers. It's all beginning to make a lot more sense to me. The pieces of this complex puzzle are coming together, and the whole picture is awaiting us. Look forward to #4c. Bless you.
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i am amazed by you TS ,it does not count what will be from now on ,or how the end will be, but your work will remain forever, i thank you for bringing me hope .
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Thankyou so much TS for all your help. This has been so well planned and you make it so much easier to piece everything together aswell as making it comprehensible and easier to take in. I have been learning so much all at once it's hard to keep it all in there.I'm learning things I never knew much about and adding to the things I do.
It's all pretty amazing - the depth of it :D
Thankyou
Lots of love
xxx
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About the shirt, I never realized this before.
The first picture shows him wearing the same shirt, without the 777's and the second picture shows the original shirt. (it's called "The Red Mission Lion" shirt.)
God Bless you TS, you are so very smart in figuring all of this out!! I don't know where we would all be if it wasn't for you! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
MICHAEL IS A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish EVERY fan would read your posts they make so much sense and we need EVERY fan in the army of L.O.V.E.
Thank you thank you thank you TS!!! :D :D :D :D
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Thanx for the update. Now I think many of us understand a bit better. Some of us may fail to interpret properly and fall into the traps of overinterpretation or misinterpretation. I admire your sense for mathematics and your precise style. Old Galileo said centuries ago that the universe is written with the language of mathematics.
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thankyou ts for showing us that information i did not notice that shirt without the numbers wow
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With every new update I see more brilliancy! I can't believe how well planned this is.
Thanks again TS!
yeah we are talking about Michael J. Jackson. not Jayz or something!
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Thank You so much!!!
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My mind is blown. It's finally becoming so clear. Thank you TS!
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Wonderful, thought provoking work yet again TS. THANK YOU so much.
The amount of work and meticulous planning Michael must have put into this entire hoax adventure is amazing and mind boggling. The explanation of the hows, when's and why's given to us by STUDY and TS these past months has really helped me understand Michael's message.
I just love reading all the post's by TS. They always give me hope.
I look forward to reading the remaining Updates from you TS and thank you for all the work you put into them.
L.O.V.E.
Adi
xxx
P.S. I am interested to see if we will be able to find those DVD Easter Eggs some day??????????????
:D :D :D
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Thanks TS. Very interesting read, especially about the numbers 666 upside down turning to 999. Hope the next update is coming soon :)
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clarity!!!...thanx for the post..
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Wow. :shock: Just wow. :shock:
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When I read posts from TS, I tend to feel a natural sense of trust. I feel it's really possible that it's Michael himself and if not, Michael's mind is where it's all coming from.
My faith is shifting to a knowingness...it feels more like fact.
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Wao!!! This is so amazing!! i have to tel you guys that I just recently joined you on this site. I suffered a lot when I heard that MJ had "died". But then, something kept bothering me, telling me that there too many things that do not quite add. And Thanks to God for that!! Yes, i understand that MJ is a human being, but to me he is like that light of hope and true that God has sent us to bring happiness, joy and Awareness of how we are living today. That is why MJ has always loved all children, like immitating Jesus. Is like he is teaching us a lesson as to how to live righteously, even though you may have been mistreated or judge of wrongdoings when in fact you are the real innocent in all this. I definitely beLIEve with all my heart that Michael Jackson is alive, and Thanks to TS for keeping us updated. If MJ, you are reading this, ar any of our comments here, just know that we are with you no matter what! I think that you just raised a big ARMY OF LOVE , and together, spreadin the word, we can change things, a better place, a better world. MJ, you can be seen as an instrument of GOD to let us know how GOD works in misterious ways. I get sad when I try to explain someone what I believe and that I believe that youy are alive, and people just look at me like I am crazy or obsessed. But, is not that, with all of this You heve even inspire me to reenter my Christian roots again, and I find myselt talking about Jesus and GOD all the time now. In a good way!! We, as your fans and as believers, are here, Like i mentioned before, YOUR ARMY OF LOVE is here to fight the good fight. Thanks again to TS for all this. MJ, just know that We LOVE YOU MORE!
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Well I guess this is an elaborate write up but.. why the hidden vague codes? MJ was like "oh my i better fake my death and leave hidden codes and numerology and send the 1% of my craziest fans on an easter egg hunt".
Makes no sense what purpose is it serving and why does it matter, at all?
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a lot to read....like usual. :roll:
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I really have no idea why people are all so happy with this and how this helps you to keep the faith.
How does this all serve the truth of what happened?? It' s just a bunch of numbers!
I'm sorry TS, you obviousely put alot work in this but I just don't get it.
I think MJ was a smart guy but not Einstein.
Maybe there just isn't so much to it as we make of it.
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Waiting for the next... :arrow:
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Waiting for the next... :arrow:
*msn* :D
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You know, I did a liitle math of my own and found something weird (or, atleast it was to me) look:
Take 666 and do some addition, 666 + 999 = 1665! Whats weird about that, you may ask? Well, from 1665-1666 the great plague of 1665 ran rampent through the kingdom of england.
Sounds oddly like something else, doesn't it? try, the so called, H1N1 in the U.S.A, Evil is for real, and I thank god Michael (I hope, and think is true) is alive and exposing it.
TS, thank you for opening my eyes even wider, the corruption must end...And only the army of L.O.V.E, can make that happen.
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Wonderful, thought provoking work yet again TS. THANK YOU so much.
The amount of work and meticulous planning Michael must have put into this entire hoax adventure is amazing and mind boggling. The explanation of the hows, when's and why's given to us by STUDY and TS these past months has really helped me understand Michael's message.
I just love reading all the post's by TS. They always give me hope.
I look forward to reading the remaining Updates from you TS and thank you for all the work you put into them.
L.O.V.E.
Adi
xxx
P.S. I am interested to see if we will be able to find those DVD Easter Eggs some day??????????????
:D :D :D
TS, I thank you very much for the excellent work .... read carefully point by point was amazing.
... I'm curious to know something about the Easter Eggs in DVDs ...
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Thankyou TS. I want to say how much I appreciate your labour of love. You enabled me to fit the pieces together with your post. The one question in this hoax that had troubled me from the start was why. And theories or speculations didn't shake it. Thanks for answering my question. This plan in genius. I never realized that an army could be mobilized to turn the system upside down. Guess another name for the army of love could be the salt of the earth. Wow, revelation of understanding taking place here. Cheers TS and may we love God and love and serve each other.
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I really have no idea why people are all so happy with this and how this helps you to keep the faith.
How does this all serve the truth of what happened?? It' s just a bunch of numbers!
I'm sorry TS, you obviousely put alot work in this but I just don't get it.
I think MJ was a smart guy but not Einstein.
Maybe there just isn't so much to it as we make of it.
Of course I can't say for sure, but I have a feeling you may be underestimating the mind of Michael Jackson. If we believe in his abilities and genius as a musician, why is it crazy to think he may be just as much of a genius mathematically?
I agree that it might be a lot more simple than we're making it. However, I don't think we should disregard anything at this point. And think of all the time Michael spent alone. All the time he would have had to *create* (which is his favorite thing to do) this elaborate ordeal with all it's intricacies . Michael's attention to detail in his music is why we love him so much, is it not? Just something to think about :) With love ;)
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When is #4c coming?
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I have not found anything in the updates on the name of Michael in the autopsy report, the document shows the name of Michael Joseph Jackson, not the main reason for the fake document? The real name of Michael is Michael Joe Jackson? right?
Sorry my English is bad. :roll:
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How do some people still think that Michael was killed?.
How do some people think that a man so intelligent and bright will allow a doctor will inject an anesthetic "for insonmio" knowing the danger he presents ?,... God give me patience ... :lol: