Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Hoax Pictures => Topic started by: jackson on March 08, 2010, 09:09:38 PM

Title: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: jackson on March 08, 2010, 09:09:38 PM
I took a screenshot of Jermaine Jackson from the interview RTL4 03/05/2010, here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6LD5rFUv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6LD5rFUv4). (I think the voice at 37 seconds is just like Michael!!!)

Then...I went into Photoshop and opened the picture, then I went to "Image" menu and went down to "Adjust" and "Curves", then I set the output= 230 and input= 27 and....here it it...
...Michael's image reflected on Jermaine's sunglasses. :shock:

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5813/jermaine2.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/jermaine2.jpg/)

This is the original screenshot...
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8250/jermaine1.jpg) (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/jermaine1.jpg/)

So, Is that Michael????, I think is Michael!! and He's alive!!! :D
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: ejay on March 08, 2010, 09:14:41 PM
Hmm, nope..I dont see anything but blur. :lol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: jessicakthx on March 08, 2010, 09:16:22 PM
I definitely see a person. I wouldn't be inclined to think it's MJ though.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on March 08, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
i sharpened the girls picture some more and i definately can see a black fedora and a red shirt =D lol i can also see what looks like his hand by his face :)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ouryoy.jpg)
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on March 08, 2010, 09:36:05 PM
dang i cant see shit
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Another_Part_of_Me on March 08, 2010, 09:39:53 PM
I see him, but I dont see fedora. Looks like he has long hair down.... might be him, hehehehe
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on March 08, 2010, 09:41:18 PM
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
I see him, but I dont see fedora. Looks like he has long hair down.... might be him, hehehehe
LOL at least you see something, my sister prescription is stronger than mine and they dont see anything im like wow you guys are blind yur supp to have better eyes than me lmaoo
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Another_Part_of_Me on March 08, 2010, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
i sharpened the girls picture some more and i definately can see a black fedora and a red shirt =D lol i can also see what looks like his hand by his face :)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ouryoy.jpg)

not the one that u circled though, but the one where an arrow pointing on.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on March 08, 2010, 09:43:48 PM
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
i sharpened the girls picture some more and i definately can see a black fedora and a red shirt =D lol i can also see what looks like his hand by his face :)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ouryoy.jpg)

not the one that u circled though, but the one where an arrow pointing on.
really to me that one looks like a random person to me the one i circled looks more like mj cus i see a red shirt and fedora :P
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Another_Part_of_Me on March 08, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
i sharpened the girls picture some more and i definately can see a black fedora and a red shirt =D lol i can also see what looks like his hand by his face :)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ouryoy.jpg)

not the one that u circled though, but the one where an arrow pointing on.
really to me that one looks like a random person to me the one i circled looks more like mj cus i see a red shirt and fedora :P

Person in blue looks like him to me because of the way he is walking. His shoulders r down, just like MJ's.
I see a red shirt too, I see glasses on him, but fedora looks very strange and the shape of his head look weird, lol
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on March 08, 2010, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "Another_Part_of_Me"
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
i sharpened the girls picture some more and i definately can see a black fedora and a red shirt =D lol i can also see what looks like his hand by his face :)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ouryoy.jpg)

not the one that u circled though, but the one where an arrow pointing on.
really to me that one looks like a random person to me the one i circled looks more like mj cus i see a red shirt and fedora :P

Person in blue looks like him to me because of the way he is walking. His shoulders r down, just like MJ's.
I see a red shirt too, I see glasses on him, but fedora looks very strange and the shape of his head look weird, lol
lol hmm strange :)
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: miss j on March 08, 2010, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: "jackson"
I took a screenshot of Jermaine Jackson from the interview RTL4 03/05/2010, here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6LD5rFUv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6LD5rFUv4). (I think the voice at 37 seconds is just like Michael!!!)

Then...I went into Photoshop and opened the picture, then I went to "Image" menu and went down to "Adjust" and "Curves", then I set the output= 230 and input= 27 and....here it it...
...Michael's image reflected on Jermaine's sunglasses. :shock:

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5813/jermaine2.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/jermaine2.jpg/)

This is the original screenshot...
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8250/jermaine1.jpg) (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/jermaine1.jpg/)

So, Is that Michael????, I think is Michael!! and He's alive!!! :D

hey, i heard the voice too!! "but it's for the children"..sounds like him....
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: infinatetrinity on March 09, 2010, 01:22:40 AM
Ok so why would Michael be out in the open during some radio talk show for all employees to see him when he is supposed to be DEAD remember.It's an illusion and nothing more even though we would like it to be otherwise IMO.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: MJJ1982 on March 09, 2010, 07:34:03 AM
Quote from: "infinatetrinity"
Ok so why would Michael be out in the open during some radio talk show for all employees to see him when he is supposed to be DEAD remember.It's an illusion and nothing more even though we would like it to be otherwise IMO.

Exactly. You can see everything, if you want to see it...
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: jackson on March 09, 2010, 10:33:28 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "infinatetrinity"
Ok so why would Michael be out in the open during some radio talk show for all employees to see him when he is supposed to be DEAD remember.It's an illusion and nothing more even though we would like it to be otherwise IMO.

Exactly. You can see everything, if you want to see it...

An Illusion?? I don't thinks so, that's because I wrote the steps I did in Photoshop to get the image, everybody must follow the steps to get that image!!

And that's right you can see everything if you want to see it...but I really see a person standing wearing a blue shirt and black trousers!! that's not an illusion!! I can see him! LOL!!
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Bellexx on March 09, 2010, 10:43:08 AM
Why would he be around with all these people, without disguise? Isn't possible IMO.  ;)
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Chamone on March 09, 2010, 10:49:04 AM
Quote from: "Bellexx"
Why would he be around with all these people, without disguise? Isn't possible IMO.  ;)
I'm with ya.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: gonia09 on March 09, 2010, 10:52:13 AM
WOW It could be Michael!!!!!:D .... and voice... LOL....
BAM's Day is comin!
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: MJJ1982 on March 09, 2010, 10:55:54 AM
Quote from: "jackson"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "infinatetrinity"
Ok so why would Michael be out in the open during some radio talk show for all employees to see him when he is supposed to be DEAD remember.It's an illusion and nothing more even though we would like it to be otherwise IMO.

Exactly. You can see everything, if you want to see it...

An Illusion?? I don't thinks so, that's because I wrote the steps I did in Photoshop to get the image, everybody must follow the steps to get that image!!

And that's right you can see everything if you want to see it...but I really see a person standing wearing a blue shirt and black trousers!! that's not an illusion!! I can see him! LOL!!

I see a person too, but it can be everyone! IMO it's an illusion that we see Michael.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Kirsche on March 09, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
i sharpened the girls picture some more and i definately can see a black fedora and a red shirt =D lol i can also see what looks like his hand by his face :)

(http://i48.tinypic.com/ouryoy.jpg)


and what is with the persone standing next to the face? Hm I'm not sure about that :?
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: ni-co-le on March 09, 2010, 04:50:10 PM
maybe its halima ??? she was there to :?
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: YouAintNuffin on March 10, 2010, 10:02:49 AM
It's Halima, I think.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 10, 2010, 02:35:49 PM
I clearely see a guy with a blue shirt and black pants, but I don't think it's MJ. The face doesn't look like him. It probably is some guy working for the show.
I must admit I also think that voice sounds like MJ's but him being there is impossible.
Some people seem to think the whole world is in on it except us!!! :roll:
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: je on March 10, 2010, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: "miss j"
Quote from: "jackson"
I took a screenshot of Jermaine Jackson from the interview RTL4 03/05/2010, here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6LD5rFUv4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ6LD5rFUv4). (I think the voice at 37 seconds is just like Michael!!!)

Then...I went into Photoshop and opened the picture, then I went to "Image" menu and went down to "Adjust" and "Curves", then I set the output= 230 and input= 27 and....here it it...
...Michael's image reflected on Jermaine's sunglasses. :shock:

(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5813/jermaine2.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/jermaine2.jpg/)

This is the original screenshot...
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8250/jermaine1.jpg) (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/jermaine1.jpg/)

So, Is that Michael????, I think is Michael!! and He's alive!!! :D

hey, i heard the voice too!! "but it's for the children"..sounds like him....

i see someone in a blue shirt facing sideways....good catch
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: mjlovebug on March 10, 2010, 03:37:09 PM
Quote from: "infinatetrinity"
Ok so why would Michael be out in the open during some radio talk show for all employees to see him when he is supposed to be DEAD remember.It's an illusion and nothing more even though we would like it to be otherwise IMO.


your right he just can't go walk in any were, however i have a though maybe a person that sounds like mj was place in there that sounded like mj just so this person can speak. i mean this was to  be a interview right so who was the person that did the editing and i would also like to know why was Jermain not ables to talk about "i am Michael" if  that was what he was there for ( or maybe the news man got that wrong).

so even though mj could not be there he know that if someone just heard his voice, or somewhat sounds like him the news in the hoax world would spread. Micheal could never be there but that does not mean that he cold not make it seem like he was. the voice, what was said and how it was said sounded just like what michael would say i do not that that this is just some radum person that just so happens to sound jsut like mj and there seem to be a person that looks like it could be him too and that it just so happens to be a interview with his brother
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 10, 2010, 04:43:04 PM
That voice bothers me (0:37)
I've been listening to this over and over again :roll:
If that's NOT MJ's voice then let the men in white take me away please!!! :ugeek:
Now I'm going to change my opinion from before.
If that's his voice then he has to be in that room!!!(OK now I'm freaking out cause how is that possible he was there??? )
Maybe he was disguised as Halima :lol:  :lol:  :lol: I'm serious tho  8-)
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Sarahli on March 12, 2010, 04:48:12 PM
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
That voice bothers me (0:37)
I've been listening to this over and over again :roll:
If that's NOT MJ's voice then let the men in white take me away please!!! :ugeek:
Now I'm going to change my opinion from before.
If that's his voice then he has to be in that room!!!(OK now I'm freaking out cause how is that possible he was there??? )
Maybe he was disguised as Halima :lol:  :lol:  :lol: I'm serious tho  8-)

Seems like the voice has been added on the video to me... :? We can't say that Michael was there in person with the interviewers unless they're in on the hoax which is highly unlikely. The reflection in the sunglasses is not clear enough to be sure. Can be anyone else. We should check if one of the people in that room was wearing a blue shirt.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 13, 2010, 08:46:51 AM
@sarahli

I also think the voice was edited (to mess with us maybe?).
I've sent a pm to Souza and asked her to call RTL boulevard to find out who said that.
I don't know if she will do it, I haven't gotten a reply yet.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: jackson on March 13, 2010, 12:47:09 PM
The voice was edited???, but edited by who??? by RTL boulevard??

Here is the video from RTL boulevard official web page, and the voice is there...!!

http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rt ... _plain.xml (http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlboulevard/miMedia/2010/week09/wo_dat_jermaine_je_niet.avi_plain.xml)

Idk...this is weird!!
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: mjjveritas on March 13, 2010, 03:07:35 PM
jackson, I agree with you, it is weird. Do we know who the English person was? If MJ was disguised as Halima, that wouldn't account for the male voice. I'm sure Jermaine would've introduced his wife to whomever was there and nobody is going to buy a male voice emanating from a female.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Jacksonology on March 15, 2010, 06:51:24 PM
So, Is that Michael????, I think is Michael!! and He's alive!!! :D[/quote]OMG is it me or does the Pose and Clothes in that reflection  look like this shot from This is it? (http://blog.newsok.com/staticblog/files/2009/10/Michael-Jackson-in-Rehearsal.JPG)(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5813/jermaine2.jpg)Look Very Close at both  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: somekindofsign on March 15, 2010, 07:04:25 PM
If Jermaine is watching a monitor with a MJ video may explain both the reflection and the voice. If I´m not wrong he was showed some videos during the interview.
But again RTL, and Germany/Jermaine is the key so...
If the RTL ambo explanation video was a fake to debunk the ambo video, MJ also can be there... No point to nail here I think.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: whatyourheartsays on March 15, 2010, 07:24:07 PM
I'm sorry but you're only playing on emphasizing the light and the color to make something appear...  :geek:

If you look the original picture, you will find out that the "glasses" of the red shirt guy you try to see, is in fact Jermaine's eye, behind the glasses...

And the "blue guy" is the blue "protective foam?" of a microphone...  :roll:

You should all stop smoking, it's gonna kill you someday  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Jacksonology on March 15, 2010, 07:27:49 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
I'm sorry but you're only playing on emphasizing the light and the color to make something appear...  :geek:

If you look the original picture, you will find out that the "glasses" of the red shirt guy you try to see, is in fact Jermaine's eye, behind the glasses...

And the "blue guy" is the blue "protective foam?" of a microphone...  :roll:

You should all stop smoking, it's gonna kill you someday  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
You should be respectful of other members. And i don't smoke.. so you don't know what your talking about  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Eva R on March 16, 2010, 02:58:42 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
If Jermaine is watching a monitor with a MJ video may explain both the reflection and the voice. If I´m not wrong he was showed some videos during the interview.
But again RTL, and Germany/Jermaine is the key so...
If the RTL ambo explanation video was a fake to debunk the ambo video, MJ also can be there... No point to nail here I think.
this RTL is not the same as the RTL from Germany ;) This is rtl is dutch. But I don't know if the rtl of Holland has a connection with the rtl of Germany. Someone knows?
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: loma on March 17, 2010, 01:33:48 AM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
I'm sorry but you're only playing on emphasizing the light and the color to make something appear...  :geek:

If you look the original picture, you will find out that the "glasses" of the red shirt guy you try to see, is in fact Jermaine's eye, behind the glasses...

And the "blue guy" is the blue "protective foam?" of a microphone...  :roll:

You should all stop smoking, it's gonna kill you someday  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

*sets down blunt*  :|

I don't see anything interesting either.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: jessicakthx on March 17, 2010, 03:13:16 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
I'm sorry but you're only playing on emphasizing the light and the color to make something appear...  :geek:

If you look the original picture, you will find out that the "glasses" of the red shirt guy you try to see, is in fact Jermaine's eye, behind the glasses...

And the "blue guy" is the blue "protective foam?" of a microphone...  :roll:

You should all stop smoking, it's gonna kill you someday  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
You should be respectful of other members. And i don't smoke.. so you don't know what your talking about  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Why is EVERYONE who disagrees with you RUDE or DISRESPECTFUL in your eyes? Disagreement *does not equal* disrespect.

 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: Game Player on March 17, 2010, 07:34:07 AM
The part that's supposed to be MJ's face looks like the floor and wall to me.. I do see the face as well but...
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: the arabian nights on March 17, 2010, 07:41:56 AM
could the voice be put on subsequently
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: mjjveritas on March 17, 2010, 09:50:37 AM
the arabian nights, According to the OP the voice is on the original video from the website of the tv station, RTL Boulevard. I don't whether this voice was there at the time or has been added. Maybe a technical sound engineer would know or someone could ask Jermaine.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: XxThisIsItxX on August 25, 2010, 03:06:01 PM
LOOK ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS GLASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! someone there looks a little like MJ way more than the blue shirt person on the left......... :O
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: vilte90 on August 25, 2010, 06:19:26 PM
I can see something like that and it really looks like MJ. And I can hear the voice of MJ. But.. It can't be him, too many people and without disguise.. Idk :/
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: yahoo4u on August 25, 2010, 06:23:47 PM
Quote from: "vilte90"
I can see something like that and it really looks like MJ. And I can hear the voice of MJ. But.. It can't be him, too many people and without disguise.. Idk :/
I only see the blue shirt, but where is the red shirt and the fedora
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on August 25, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
I see someone in a blue shirt for sure but really dont know/cannot say it is Michae. I HEAR the voice as well. It does sound like Michael
But i honestly dont know what to think...unless this damn thing was PRE taped or something and the crew is in on it??? Dunno!
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: vilte90 on August 26, 2010, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: "yahoo4u"
Quote from: "vilte90"
I can see something like that and it really looks like MJ. And I can hear the voice of MJ. But.. It can't be him, too many people and without disguise.. Idk :/
I only see the blue shirt, but where is the red shirt and the fedora

I can't see it because I think there wasn't anybody with such clothes.
Title: Re: MICHAEL REFLECTED ON JERMAINES SUNGLASSES?
Post by: SEHF on September 01, 2010, 01:10:13 PM
all i see is a light and a microphone.. like most interviews.
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