Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on February 28, 2010, 07:44:52 AM
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http://www.encognitive.com/node/7516 (http://www.encognitive.com/node/7516)
http://www.mjfiles.com/death/michaels-p ... on-speaks/ (http://www.mjfiles.com/death/michaels-plastic-surgeon-speaks/)
I am personally going to put a stop to all of the threats on my life and the
threats against my family.
I am now bringing out to the public all of the credible evidence in my
possession on the corruption in Los Angeles Law Enforcement pertaining
to the Michael Jackson Investigation.
These are occurring because those members of law enforcement know
that I possess abundant incriminating evidence that is going to put a lot of
people in prison.
I am not going to allow and will expose those people who are colluding
together, such as ‘Diane Dimond’ of Entertainment Tonight, with the police
to use false documents to threaten me, obstruct my independent
investigation into Michael’s death and to stop me from providing evidence
to the proper authorities.
He claims that the LAPD, Dr Arnold Klein, and certain news media agencies, are conspiring to keep him quiet by making threats against his life and that of his family.
I am asking him to engage a congressional investigation
into all of the ""LAPD and Los Angeles Sherriff Department Law
Enforcement Corruption"" in Los Angeles that is taking place in the Michael
Jackson and other important investigations that is ruining our city. I want a
Congressional Committee to subpoena these people, put them under
oath, gather credible evidence for a good District Attorney, and bring them
to proper justice. I have already asked Bob Woodward to report on this
matter in the Washington Post.
I am going to put an end to these threats now. I owe it to my family. I owe
it to myself. But, most of all, I owe it to the public who always wants to
know the truth and especially the truth about what happened to Michael
Jackson.
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I don't undrestand when Hoefflin says that some ppl want to "obstruct his independent investigation into Michael’s death"...
Now, what's this? Is he an investigator, or a doctor?
Does he means that he's doing his own investigation, apart from the authorities (of course)?
What's this stuff? :shock:
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Interesting that he mentions Dianne Diamond. I have always wondered why she hated MJ so much. Saw her on a doco here in Aus about 6 weeks ago and she was still sinking the boot in at every available opportunity. such hatred. what motivates it?
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This is interesting! It looks like things are about to get ugly. I just hope there is at least one honest prosecutor that is willing to bring out the truth!
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This could mean so much, maybe he knows the truth!
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Maybe This is It! This is what MJ wanted. By faking his death,the truth will provail.. Already Dr Steven Hoefflin is declaring the truth, who knows how many others will do the same .The truth put everyone in jail, than MJ can come out from hiding. Wow! this sounds like a mystery movie.
I can't wait to see the finale.. Soon MJ will come back. ;)
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Well who is to say that this guy is'nt just selling his story for money like evryone else is doing on MJ, now this guy wants to come out and speak about MJ's medical records to the public. He spoke to The Sun are they reliable? He maybe doing it just for money, never know :shock:
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I don't undrestand when Hoefflin says that some ppl want to "obstruct his independent investigation into Michael’s death"...
Now, what's this? Is he an investigator, or a doctor?
Does he means that he's doing his own investigation, apart from the authorities (of course)?
What's this stuff? :shock:
WOW!! I think he said a long time ago that he was doing his own investigating. If he has gathered enough evidence to bring down the corruption in high places I can most certainly see that there would be threats against him. Diane Dimond has serious issues with Michael far greater than a regular reporter. I'm not sure what her problem with MJ is but I think we should be looking at her ties to law enforcement.
At least Dr Hoefflin has put it out there for the public to know. If anything happens to him now it won't just be coincidence and it couldn't be ignored by the Federal Government. I really hope that MJ is in protective custody helping bring all of this to fruition. Wow.
Ok...I just read the whole thing and I find it interesting that this was written a month ago yet I haven't heard anything about this from the mainstream media. I heard of a lawsuit between Klein and Hoefflin and then a countersuit, but none of these allegations against the LAPD, etc. Did I miss something or has this been kicked under the carpet?
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Maybe Diane Dimond believes the child molestation story, or she is interested in Michael personally and
he wanted nothing to do with her. maybe she asked him for an interview too, and she was rejected.
Or she knows his name gathers attention , so she uses him for her own means of success. Personally I would not know who she was if it had not been for her mean spirited reports on Michael. Message to Diane Dimind Shut up !, and Pray up !
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I've always wondered if the LAPD could possibly be in on Michael faking his death. Would they really help him for a price? If they're so corrupt, as the doctor states, that means they (or certain members) could have been bought. I'm always hearing that Michael couldn't pull this off because too many people would have to be paid a lot of money. I usually agree with that, but more and more I'm beginning to question. :?: :?: ;)
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Holy geezus this is huge. This is the guy who said he was gonna go public with a lot of info shortly after 6-25 if people didn't start talking. My ears perked up then... but we haven't heard back since.
This is HUGE.
I'm rivited.
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Interesting that he mentions Dianne Diamond. I have always wondered why she hated MJ so much. Saw her on a doco here in Aus about 6 weeks ago and she was still sinking the boot in at every available opportunity. such hatred. what motivates it?
Money . notoriety !
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I've always wondered if the LAPD could possibly be in on Michael faking his death. Would they really help him for a price? If they're so corrupt, as the doctor states, that means they (or certain members) could have been bought. I'm always hearing that Michael couldn't pull this off because too many people would have to be paid a lot of money. I usually agree with that, but more and more I'm beginning to question. :?: :?: ;)
you gave me food 4 thought..
could MJ bought some members of the LAPD to assist him, telling them he wont come back but will live in hiding, and noone will find ou! but then he makes a comeback to prove how corrupt they are?
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I thought this was old news? Is there an update? http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... put-people (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-documents-michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-doctor-says-he-has-evidence-put-people)
Here is something else. Hoefflin comments on the autopsy, this was last year.
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76795/ (http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76795/)
By the way, i don't think hoefflin is all that crazy. Klein has done a lot of talking. You have to wonder if he is barking in defense? MJ visited Klein an awful lot prior to TII. Wasn't Klein the only doc he visited in this period?
Where did Murray get the propofol from.....
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Dr Klein and Dr Thome Thome are the shady ones in all of this.. i have often had the feeling that Dr Murray is the fall guy in all of this. I cant shake that feeling.
Even if MJ has really died then i do feel Murray should get whats coming to him.... but i dont think he is the one and only one to blame but he has been left to take the fall completely.
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I thought this was old news? Is there an update? http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... put-people (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/09/exclusive-documents-michael-jackson%E2%80%99s-doctor-says-he-has-evidence-put-people)
Here is something else. Hoefflin comments on the autopsy, this was last year.
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76795/ (http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76795/)
By the way, i don't think hoefflin is all that crazy. Klein has done a lot of talking. You have to wonder if he is barking in defense? MJ visited Klein an awful lot prior to TII. Wasn't Klein the only doc he visited in this period?
Where did Murray get the propofol from.....
:shock: :shock:
Dr. Steven Hoefflin, one of Michael Jackson's former plastic surgeons, is speaking out to ET about "involuntary errors" he believes the L.A. Coroner made in its autopsy report on the late icon.
Hoefflin says he's been informed that the Coroner's office were incorrect in reporting that Jackson was wearing a nasal prosthesis and had lost his nose, leaving only two holes in its place.
"I believe that the coroner's office is profoundly competent and did a commendable job in their post-mortem examination of Michael Jackson. As is so frequent under these circumstances, they merely did not have sufficient information to make an accurate description and interpretation of the anatomical findings," he says, adding he is speaking out "at the written request of Katherine [Jackson] and to give a truthful legacy for Michael."
Hoefflin adds that Jackson had "an indentation of his right nose, which was not from surgery, but from a deep biopsy due to the suspicion of skin cancer." He claims, too, that Jackson had Lupus and the disease was being inflamed by "massive injections of collagen" administered to him by Dr. Arnold Klein.
BUT HE GOT THAT WRONG.,,, THE AUTOPSY DIDNT SAY HE WORE A FALSE PROTHESIS ON HIS NOSE.
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So which autopsy report did he read????? There must be more than one floating around. The article I found, was released on Jan 18th....This is getting good...The truth will come out, the BAD people will be arrested, and then MJ can come back to us. Katherine also wants the truth to come out about all the corruption and to clear her sons name.
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Not so fast. The 'proper' autopsy report has only recently been released, as we all know. The article was posted in July, so Hoefflin must have been reporting on an uncorroborated report - there were many. Either that, or the coroner's really did think his nose was missing when actually the shape of it can be explained as Hoefflin has. Hoefflin could have seen a preliminary report and the coroner could have amended it before its final release this year.
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Not so fast. The 'proper' autopsy report has only recently been released, as we all know. The article was posted in July, so Hoefflin must have been reporting on an uncorroborated report - there were many. Either that, or the coroner's really did think his nose was missing when actually the shape of it can be explained as Hoefflin has. Hoefflin could have seen a preliminary report and the coroner could have amended it before its final release this year.
Yes... so doesnt that make Hoefflin unreliable because he jumped the gun and made comments on an autopsy that wasnt true?
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Yes... so doesnt that make Hoefflin unreliable because he jumped the gun and made comments on an autopsy that wasnt true?
I think the topic (it being MJ's nose) was a sensitive one, and the rumour unfounded, so perhaps Hoefflin just wanted to put whatever was said 'straight'. He did MJ's nose jobs after all. It would be like someone criticizing his work?
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As far as Diane Diamond goes, just do your homework on her from the 2004-2005 child molestation case against Michael. She was sued by a fan and he won! She also lost her job with court TV because of her slanderous behavior. She was reporting things (as were many) about the case, Micheal and his supporters that were bold face fabrications. She had her little spider cove set up right by the court house and we could hear and see her lies being told and her web spun right in front of us. She didn't even read the court transcripts for that hour or day and she would make things up!! If it seemed like a day that went in Michael's favor, she would attack him in other ways. Hateful, mean and part of the machine that wanted Micheal Jackson taken down at all cost. Everything that is happening now, can be explained if we all look back at the players in that court case. Just look at the D.A. and the Santa Barbara Sheriff's office for that time and it will make your skin crawl.
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Wendy E, were you outside the court house during the trial? I have seen footage of the goings on on a DVD I bought called the trial and triumph of the King of Pop.I've never seen any thing like it in all my 50 years on this planet. Wonderful fans showing Mike their love and support , people praying for him and then others screaming offenses and abuse. Not to mention the media circus. I've read up all I could on what went down. You know Aphrodite's book and Geraldines book. Even here on the other side of the world in Aus, the trial was mentioned every day on the news stations. I recall seeing fans coming to support Michael from different parts of the world And when the not guilty verdict rang out, this lady released these white doves into the air and freedom. That image has stuck with me and how I wished I had been amongst the people there at that time. I would love to hear anything you would like to share with us about that time. Love and great respect to you for being there.
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I don't undrestand when Hoefflin says that some ppl want to "obstruct his independent investigation into Michael’s death"...
Now, what's this? Is he an investigator, or a doctor?
Does he means that he's doing his own investigation, apart from the authorities (of course)?
What's this stuff? :shock:
WOW!! I think he said a long time ago that he was doing his own investigating. If he has gathered enough evidence to bring down the corruption in high places I can most certainly see that there would be threats against him. Diane Dimond has serious issues with Michael far greater than a regular reporter. I'm not sure what her problem with MJ is but I think we should be looking at her ties to law enforcement.
At least Dr Hoefflin has put it out there for the public to know. If anything happens to him now it won't just be coincidence and it couldn't be ignored by the Federal Government. I really hope that MJ is in protective custody helping bring all of this to fruition. Wow.
Ok...I just read the whole thing and I find it interesting that this was written a month ago yet I haven't heard anything about this from the mainstream media. I heard of a lawsuit between Klein and Hoefflin and then a countersuit, but none of these allegations against the LAPD, etc. Did I miss something or has this been kicked under the carpet?
If I'm not mistaken, and please correct me if Im wrong, BUTI think it was Hoefflin who actually SHOWED ON TV some kind of log in Debbie Rowe's handwriting the she, when she worked for Klien, gave MJ a ton of shots of Demerol....how much and what time and the dates and her initials.
I saw this with my own eyes. dont remember what show but it was shortly after the 25th...maybe in August...
...and Diane Dimond is a crotchety old hag. That skank can suck it for all I care. YES, YOU Diane.....go phuck yourself...
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...by the way......I hear Diane is a flaminig lesbian. I have my OWN sources on that one!!
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...by the way......I hear Diane is a flaminig lesbian. I have my OWN sources on that one!!
What is wrong with being lesbian? :?
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Why would Dr Hoefflin be given the autopsy report when even his own father didn't get it till now :?
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If this story is in The Sun, a trashy British tabloid, then frankly I don't beLIEve a word of it.
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...by the way......I hear Diane is a flaminig lesbian. I have my OWN sources on that one!!
What is wrong with being lesbian? :?
I'll answer this one. The answer is "nothing". The point that I take from this is that for as ruthless, biased, accusatory and down-right rude as Diane has been, in regards to MJ, she should keep her own doorstep clean and always recall the fact that she should never cast stones for she, too, lives in a glass house!
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Down in the comments of this article Charles Thompson clarifies some of the visits to Klein that MJ made. The article is about some other things that we are not discussing here but who knows it could all be related.The comments were what sparked me to post the link. Further down Thomson has a reply too.
http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspo ... nvict.html (http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2010/01/fbi-file-reveals-attempt-to-convict.html)
" 5 January 2010 06:14
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@ Charles Thomson
Regarding Arnie Klein...
Like most liars he has the ability to make something that happened 15-20 years ago appear to have happened yesterday.
What might be described as Klein's 'office' may be a building consisting of many doctors?
According to financial papers filed against Michael Jackson, Klein's office billed for services from 23 March 2009 to 22 June 2009.
Services included; "I.M. Injection," "Botox Under Eye," "Latisse," "Restylane," "Acne Surgery," and other services and after-hours fees."
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Jacksonologist:
and Diane Dimond is a crotchety old hag. That skank can suck it for all I care. YES, YOU Diane.....go phuck yourself...
:lol: ....CROTCHETY!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I have never heard of such!! ....this one is 2 funny!
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I take this report similarly to how I take Joe's statements, read between the lines. That's why I think it's huge.
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Very interesting post. God bless you! :)
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Is this also a major part of it.
http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspo ... cence.html (http://charlesthomsonjournalist.blogspot.com/2010/01/fbi-files-support-jacksons-innocence.html)
Saturday, 2 January 2010
FBI Files Support Jackson's Innocence; Media Reports Otherwise
I should begin by saying that the release of Michael Jackson's FBI file was not motivated by any desire to damage his legacy or smear his name. Many of Jackson's fans are understandably distrustful of the establishment which repeatedly pursued the star on trumped up charges, but the release of Jackson's FBI file is no conspiracy. Jackson's file was requested under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and I was one of those who requested it.
The FOIA allows members of the public to request classified or unattainable information held by any public body. The act is designed to uphold democracy by allowing citizens to scrutinise anything from local government budget reports to dossiers on UFO sightings. Requests can only be turned down for a handful of reasons, including privacy issues and national security.
When I requested Michael Jackson's FBI file, I wasn't even sure he had one. If he did, I had no idea what I would find in it. In Sammy Davis Jr's I found nothing but countless investigations into death threats sent to the singer. In James Brown's, however, I found an explosive re-telling of his infamous 1988 'car chase', which showed the authorities in a very poor light and contained numerous accusations of police brutality.
The FBI released roughly 300 pages on Jackson, constituting less than half of his overall file. The reason behind the withholding of the other half is yet to be made public, but it most likely consists of information on Jackson's dealings with still living figures of interest to the bureau - civil rights activists like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and the various Middle Eastern businessmen and royals Michael Jackson befriended.
The released half of Jackson's FBI file supports the star's innocence entirely. Perhaps most notably, a lengthy report shows that when Jackson's Neverland Ranch was raided in 2003, the FBI went over every computer seized from the property with a fine toothcomb looking for any incriminating files or internet activity. Jackson's file contained individual summaries of the FBI's findings for each of the 16 computers. Scrawled in capital letters across each of those 16 reports - 'NOTHING'.
But not many media outlets included that nugget. In fact, numerous outlets - including the Daily Mail - inaccurately reported that the file did not include the bureau's findings.
On a more general level, the files reveal that it was not only the Los Angeles Police force which pursued Jackson for more than a decade and failed to produce one itoa of information to connect the star to any crime - it was the FBI too. That Jackson's life was dissected and his bevahiour was investigated for more than 10 years by two major law enforcement agencies and not one piece of evidence was ever produced to indicate his guilt speaks volumes.
On the whole, the media didn't quite tell it that way, though.
The FBI file included numerous allegations reported to the bureau which, of course, the media at large bogusly reported as the bureau's own findings. So here is a breakdown of what the media told you existed in Jackson's FBI file, and what the file actually contained.
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I really dont know what to think about what is posted in that 1 and only tabloid about what Hoefflin is apparently claiming.
One thing I do believe is that if he actually had no doubts, evidence, etc... I doubt he would make such accusations agains people in such high places, who are bottom line in power positions. He could get himself in enough trouble that it would become a fulltime job just keeping himself safe. They would be breathing down his neck, these are not light allegations when you accuse a police department of being corrupt in a case that is so hot that there are people following it acrosse the entire planet.
I do not really know any of the tabloid's reputations cause I dont buy, read, or follow up on tabloid stories. I would think though if it is all fabricated and made up, that they actually put such words in this mans mouth they could get sued. :? But again, I know nothing really in regards to what paparazzi can get away with or not.
Another way to look at this is to assume Hoefflin does have some stuff on them and both parties have been secretly or kept hush hush debating on this, perhaps Hoefflin wanted to prove a point by going to a tabloid to have them put out his story. By going about it this way, Hoefflin is definetly showing LAPD he is serious about exposing them and it would be easy to brush off the claims as fake if LAPD decide to take Hoefflin seriously and get their act together. It's cocky and staight to the point that Hoefflin means business and is very serious about exposing the truth.
And a final thought in attempt to explain that Hoefflin is commenting on a coroner's report that did not exist at the time of this article, perhaps he had already been in contact with the coroner and knew the plan was not to include the whole truth in it but Hoefflin got upset about it and decided to go to the media with this info to put pressure on the coroner's office to print the truth about the report. Then nothing, the report never came out. Perhaps they we're deliberating what to do and decided to wait a while and make Hoefflin look like a paranoid fool and to make him loose all credibility at the same time.
Ok, I'm taking off my Sherlock cap off now, :lol: But I think if we all think of a sinister conspiracy world, the explanation kinda fits.
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Here is some food for thought in this matter :
There is always at least that one person with a conscience or with a too big of a mouth to keep a secret ultimately destroying the perfect plan. Do you all remember what the coroner's office dude, I think he's the assistant something, or something :lol: , said on his twitter? And this was discussed in the twitter accounts section, he said :
(I think he reffered to the mafia, but not that important for the point I'm making here)
Now I know why the mafia says it's easy for 3 to keep a secret when 2 are dead.
HHmmm... makes you wonder dont it? :roll: :?
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If all the people who know something would just speak up then this case was already solved!
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...by the way......I hear Diane is a flaminig lesbian. I have my OWN sources on that one!!
What is wrong with being lesbian? :?
I'll answer this one. The answer is "nothing". The point that I take from this is that for as ruthless, biased, accusatory and down-right rude as Diane has been, in regards to MJ, she should keep her own doorstep clean and always recall the fact that she should never cast stones for she, too, lives in a glass house!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a lesbian. But in Diane's case, Im sure it would insult HER immensely.
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Finaly a good thread in the right direction.. this guy is telling the truth
We must investigate who wanted Michael dead and bring out the whole truth
Let's unite for Michael
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EACH DAY A NEW CHARACTER IS POPPING OUT WITH SOME INFORMATION ... GOD I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL END UP... MJ PLEASE HELP ME.
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This is not new news, and Hoefflin has released no further statement since his letter was released last year. While i commend Hoefflin for going public (if he has relevant info) he has not put any of his 'evidence' into the public domain yet. Who knows why. This letter that everyone is talking about is here: http://www.radaronline.com/category/tag ... n-hoefflin (http://www.radaronline.com/category/tags/steven-hoefflin)
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Now this could be rubbish but - http://mikeresponts.wordpress.com/2008/ ... ne-asylum/ (http://mikeresponts.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/michael-jacksons-plastic-surgeon-committed-to-insane-asylum/)
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I say if Dr.Hoefflin knows who "killed" Michael then,he should exspose all who was involved,and all need to be brought to justice.He must know something if they are threatening him and his family.
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Has this been mentioned before:
DEBBIE ROWE allegedly reported Michael Jackson's doctor Arnold Klein to the police.
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The late singer's ex-wife anonymously INFORMED officers the dermatologist was supplying the tragic pop star with prescription drugs - including the powerful anaesthetic Propofol, which has been blamed for his death - using a number of different aliases.
Court documents show an "unknown female caller" - believed to be Rowe - told police Michael used names including Omar Arnold, Fernand Diaz, Peter Madonie and Josephine Baker when he saw Klein, to allow the medic to prescribe him extra drugs.
A source told Britain's The Sun newspaper: "Rowe holds Klein totally responsible for Jackson's drug addiction. She believes there is no way he could have got hooked without the help of Klein - and she is potentially the only one who can prove it. She must have suspected what was going on for years."
Read more: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/peopl ... z0hUYMyGVY (http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1497692.php/Debbie-Rowe-finks-on-Dr-Arnie-Klein#ixzz0hUYMyGVY)