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Title: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 25, 2010, 10:51:23 PM
There are moments in life when you think: "What the fuck???"

I have had MANY of these moments during the last 8 months, but now I am at a point that I am close to exploding...


Maura, thank you so much for your 'apologies', it's highly appreciated. It's a bummer though you are refering afterwards to us as 'idiots'.

You claim to have the truth about the hoax and about me and Mo. Well I am very interested Maura! Tell everyone the truth about us, I am very curious about what you found! And tell us about the truth on the hoax, I'm very curious about that too.
I have said it before Maura and I will say it again: You talk to the wrong people. There are people that don't want Mike to come back and will come up with anything that will make him look bad or put him in danger.
Those are the same people that tried to bring him down before, you think they don't read these forums? Some of them have been close to Mike for years, so they do know a lot, but they have the wrong intentions.


For the other Souza & M0 haters: Has anyone ever thought about the fact that there is a possibility that the theories in our blogs could be true? Have you ever thought about it that when you call our theories freaking insane, you could be calling Mike freaking insane? I guess not.


We have tried really hard to stay polite, but I am fed up with the crap. We have been attacked many times because we are not fans, who gives a fuck? It's not like we hate him! I think we have proven that many times. You don't have to be a fan to like someone, wake up!


We don't give a shit if some of you think we are nutcases, because we can handle that. You can say anything about us whatever you like, we don't care because it's only words on a screen and ignorance.


What is pissing me off is that there are people trying to ruin this hoax by claiming stuff that isn't true, by distracting people and even by saying that others are distracting people. According to BoW we are guys and on the payroll, trying to send hoaxers in the wrong direction. Well tell me, HOW do we do that? HOW are we manipulating? Have we ever said we have the truth? Like Maura does? NO, never! Even if we would have, we wouldn't claim it. We support everything we post, it's for everyone to see and everyone can think for themselves. If you don't believe it that's fine, walk away from it but be careful with what you post...


We are not fans, so what are we doing here?

We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Hate us for it if you want, I won't lose a minute of sleep because of it.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 25, 2010, 10:58:03 PM
I actually like having people on here that are not fans, because we might lose sight of things because we're thinking with our hearts too much and our emotions get the best of us!
Thats when ppl like you come in handy :D
and MJ, I have your back <3
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Nathalia on February 25, 2010, 11:01:03 PM
Souza and Mo, you guys will always have my respect.
It's funny how a lot of "fans" are spreading hate and bash you guys for not labeling yourselves as such..
who is really getting the message in all of this?

In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.
-Michael Jackson
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 25, 2010, 11:11:24 PM
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Bravo - these are the exact reasons that led me on the path to find this forum. It's high time we all speak out on his behalf and defend him. Thank you.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 25, 2010, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Bravo - these are the exact reasons that led me on the path to find this forum. It's high time we all speak out on his behalf and defend him. Thank you.

and as Randy put it "My brother doesn’t have a voice anymore…. We must fight & speak for him."
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: virgo75 on February 25, 2010, 11:15:19 PM
Meh.

A hater's job is to hate.

Their "well" of information must have run dry if all they're left with is bashing other people...   :roll:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 25, 2010, 11:18:08 PM
That was absolutely awesome, Souza. I too am so sick of all of these people running around claiming to have the truth on things and then not telling anyone! People use the anonymity of the web to spew the most nonsensical things to get some attention, and then they can't even defend themselves! Poor Michael is working so hard and you're right, needs us, and here come these people trying to pull our attention away from him.. I've seen too much idiocy like this in the past on the web, therefore I never paid one cent of attention to any one like that.. BOW, Maura.. I wish they would just drop it and leave us alone! I think it's safe to say that most everybody here is ready and willing to "have his back" no matter what, we're ALL behind him!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: darkchild on February 25, 2010, 11:20:55 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Bravo - these are the exact reasons that led me on the path to find this forum. It's high time we all speak out on his behalf and defend him. Thank you.

God bless you, voiceforthesilent! I believe that the Lord lead me here to find the truth, and to defend our beloved MJ to the bone until the Lord takes me home.  MJ, it is my honor to be here to support you, to  defend you, and to love you.  God bless you everyone here!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: GirlSaturday on February 25, 2010, 11:24:12 PM
The fact that you are not fans works in your favor. Your theories and thoughts will not be slanted because of personal feelings toward MJ.

Think about the way that courtroom juries are supposed to be selected. Prospective jurors are asked questions to determine if they can be open-minded and objective when hearing a case. Objectivity  and an open-mind are key when investigating the hoax.

All MJ related hoax news will not be warm and fuzzy or soft and cuddly. There might be news that is uncovered which proves to be unpleasant or difficult to absorb. We should all try to be  be open-minded and objective to digest the bitter with the sweet.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on February 25, 2010, 11:27:37 PM
what can we say, haters hate, its all their good for, those who call themselves "true fans" sure aren't doing a good job at following his message to spread LOVE, wake up people!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: LoveLives4Ever on February 25, 2010, 11:39:18 PM
I agree with what you said 100% Souza, the haters can bash us all they want...It isn't going to change anything! Besides, I think it is a very nice thing both you and Mo do for all our investigations.

Giving us a place to call home, even when people try to start shit over it...Michael does need our support, and I will be damned before I turn my back on him.

8 months it took me to announce that I am a beLIEver, not to mention all the investigation's. But I never lost hope, besides, No hater can stop us now! We are his Army united in the name of L.O.V.E! We must continue to beLIEve!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: infinatetrinity on February 26, 2010, 12:21:59 AM
I couldn't have said it better myself Sousa :) BTW I'm not a fan either,and although I wished I had alot more time to spend on the computer then I actually do investigating everything on Michael jackson,I don't.What I have read from BOTH Mo and Sousa along with many many other members has opened my eyes to exactly how trashed this world has become and truthfully speaking IF it wasn't for MJ dying then I for one would still be ignorant of how bad things are.I would NEVER have found out either exactly HOW MUCH Michael did do for the people on this earth if he hadn't of faked his death.Like I said No I am not a fan but I have always admired the man for his singing,dancing and the way he felt/feels about children all over this world and how he has dedicated his life in doing so.Since June 25th 2009 I have spent time telling as many people as I can about Michael,this forum and the importance of Michaels message to everyone.So far I have gotten 5 people out of about 2 dozen to listen and believe what I have told them which to me is an excellent start for I was hoping in reality that if only 1 person may believe then I was doing great,so I have nothing but the greatest respect and admiration for Mo,Sousa and ALL the others in this forum who have been able to come up with all that they have.As long as this forum stays open there will be more people 1 by 1 who are brought to this forum one way or another and will read the truth.Heads and chins up everyone your doing an excellent job and should be very proud of yourselves....Think Positive,Be Positive and Live Positive and we shall get there in time...Gods Blessings to you all :)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: mjsweety on February 26, 2010, 01:08:58 AM
WOW no clue as to what happened, but saw the posts on the thread of her video and she did infact get the coat of arms wrong did'nt she...Did she come and apologize or something? I saw  Badkolo said she should, i wasn't here last night so don't know what happened.
I guess everyone investigating has Mike's back in one way or another , i know i do!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Tina K. on February 26, 2010, 02:21:39 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
There are moments in life when you think: "What the fuck???"

I have had MANY of these moments during the last 8 months, but now I am at a point that I am close to exploding...


Maura, thank you so much for your 'apologies', it's highly appreciated. It's a bummer though you are refering afterwards to us as 'idiots'.

You claim to have the truth about the hoax and about me and Mo. Well I am very interested Maura! Tell everyone the truth about us, I am very curious about what you found! And tell us about the truth on the hoax, I'm very curious about that too.
I have said it before Maura and I will say it again: You talk to the wrong people. There are people that don't want Mike to come back and will come up with anything that will make him look bad or put him in danger.
Those are the same people that tried to bring him down before, you think they don't read these forums? Some of them have been close to Mike for years, so they do know a lot, but they have the wrong intentions.


For the other Souza & M0 haters: Has anyone ever thought about the fact that there is a possibility that the theories in our blogs could be true? Have you ever thought about it that when you call our theories freaking insane, you could be calling Mike freaking insane? I guess not.


We have tried really hard to stay polite, but I am fed up with the crap. We have been attacked many times because we are not fans, who gives a fuck? It's not like we hate him! I think we have proven that many times. You don't have to be a fan to like someone, wake up!


We don't give a shit if some of you think we are nutcases, because we can handle that. You can say anything about us whatever you like, we don't care because it's only words on a screen and ignorance.


What is pissing me off is that there are people trying to ruin this hoax by claiming stuff that isn't true, by distracting people and even by saying that others are distracting people. According to BoW we are guys and on the payroll, trying to send hoaxers in the wrong direction. Well tell me, HOW do we do that? HOW are we manipulating? Have we ever said we have the truth? Like Maura does? NO, never! Even if we would have, we wouldn't claim it. We support everything we post, it's for everyone to see and everyone can think for themselves. If you don't believe it that's fine, walk away from it but be careful with what you post...


We are not fans, so what are we doing here?

We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Hate us for it if you want, I won't lose a minute of sleep because of it.
Well said !
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: LunaCielo on February 26, 2010, 02:49:33 AM
Quote from: ~Souza~
There are moments in life when you think: "What the fuck???"

I agree with you, respect you and follow you forever, and I have always believed in the importance of maintaining a healthy emotional detachment to read well the truth about Michael Jackson in particular and everyone in general.
Who sows hatred and malice is the usual dirty game of who wants to cover up the truth... :roll:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Puff on February 26, 2010, 02:53:55 AM
AMEN!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: superflysister81 on February 26, 2010, 02:55:02 AM
Well said!
no one here has ever claimed to have the truth, we need to stay together to investigate and to give all our support to Michael :)

Respect, Souza! ;)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: EternalMichael on February 26, 2010, 03:33:52 AM
Well said Souza !
I have just one thing to add : Souza and Mo, I love you !
Don't stop 'til you get the truth !
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: LoveYaMJ on February 26, 2010, 03:36:27 AM
I really respect what you say, and I also believe your words (especially your theories) !

And I can't stop laughing at this:
"Hate us for it if you want, I won't lose a minute of sleep because of it."

You're doing a great job.
God Bless You Both !!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Emily Hutjes on February 26, 2010, 03:41:05 AM
The interesting thing about the Souza & Mo and haters and this site haters is this: the basic emotion from which comes hate is --FEAR-- and that blocks the common sense department. Envy and jealousy often are a result of...FEAR. Nothing new, creative, inteligent etc. comes from fear, nor from envy nor from jealousy. It comes from the dark side of a human being and a person should not accept that and try to "look in the mirror and change". Michael Jackson is not obliged to come back. Because he did not fake his death just to pull a smart one on his haters. The most important issue here is: why was it necessary to fake his death or be forced into it by others. That truth must be found and that will not be all that easy. The investigators of this site turn every possible stone to look for this truth. One has to have guts to do that.
However when the truth will be found it still should never force MJJ to return, if that would again endanger his life or take away his joy in life.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: lisap27 on February 26, 2010, 03:42:28 AM
i must be walking round with my eyes closed seriously, i didn't even know there was admin haters apart from maura's freak out once and that weird blog thing..

what is the purpose of people accusing someone else, i read a post by BADKOLO and he made a valid point, if they was in on it why spend time and money on here with us.. were the minority at the moment that belive he could STILL be alive

Geeze no wonder someone would fake their death when there's people like that in the world.. pffffff :roll:

just to add, i've been here from i'll say day 2, (inc the old forum mjkit) and i think its helped me loads i've never bin a fanatic following Michael everywhere, but a fan, and i've learnt so much and had my eyes truly opened..

KEEP IT GOING GUYS, I THINK YOUR DOING AS AWSOME JOB.. (we all are) L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Eva R on February 26, 2010, 04:46:44 AM
Thank you for the good post!
yeah we have to be together to help Michael. And yeah souza, he has to know that we have his back if he returns.

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 26, 2010, 05:02:54 AM
Hi Souza, I have been in this website for almost 2 weeks, and the only thing I have read is hatred. I tried to put peace with Maura and the others, but I feel I did not succeed. You do not need to be a fan of someone to have a good heart and help. You opened this hoax website so we can all get together and find the hoax, and help Michael. I want to personal THANK YOU for doing so. Before I joined I use to read all of your posting, from Illuminati, mind control and etc.. I never would have thought in a million years he would have gone through this mind control.  I grew up with MJ music. I relate very well with MJ I myself believes in the world being sick, and peace and harmony, try to change so we can live in a better clean world, so we can respect one another, no racism etc.. What I see in this website, some may think they are for L.O.V.E but they are not. They haven't learned yet what Michael believes in, and the lesson he is trying to teach us, and it is ashame.

In that note Souza, keep up the good work, and THANK YOU AGAIN. You are a good investigator,even if you are not a MJ fan.. Like I said you do not need to be a fan to be a good investigator,and providing us with the truth and facts.
thank you for listening.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: loyalfan on February 26, 2010, 05:14:35 AM
CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING PLEASE.......TO ANYONE WITH HATE IN THEIR HEART.....YOU MUST BE VERY UNHAPPY PEOPLE.......I HAVE NEVER HATED ANY ONE IN MY 61 YEARS ON THIS PLANET......DISLIKE ..YES.....AND BELIEVE ME I HAVE HAD SOME AWFUL STUFF HAPPEN TO ME...TRULY AWFUL.......BUT HATRED IS NOT THE WAY TO EXPRESS YOUR INNER PAIN.....HATE WILL CONSUME YOU......MICHEAL ABHORS HATRED......AS WE ALL VERY WELL KNOW......AND IF ANYBODY HAS GOOD REASON TO FEEL HATE ITS HIM......BUT HE JUST GIVES AND GIVES OF HIS LOVE AND KINDNESS........SO PLEASE DONT LET YOUR PAIN TURN TO HATE..........THANKYOU FOR LETTING ME SAY THIS...XXXX
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: hesoutthere on February 26, 2010, 05:35:31 AM
Souza (Mo) thank you for speaking out...  ;)

Well let me say something about me and MJ...

I'm not a fan as well.... BUT i'm a huge admirer of his gifted talent, his kind hearted soul, his enormous love for all mankind and his messages he gives the world..

What MJ have gone through with hates, nonbelievers and the media breakes my heart.. I'm here a 1000% for him and him only..

Okay hes kinda cute as well and  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Oh i'm listing to his music.. I was born in the Off The Wall area and i have always liked his music..

So i'm here to find the truth.. To find out why he did what he did and i must say somehow i understand his disapperance no matter what... He have been bashed by the media nearly all his adult life... And he doesn't deserve that AT ALL...

L.O.V.E to all outthere.....
Just my 2 cents
P
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sailya on February 26, 2010, 05:55:47 AM
I deeply appreciate your brillent efforts on finding the truth. :)
Don't be angry,for the sake of your health. :)
Let's focus on L.O.V.E.
It's all for L.O.V.E. right?
"You are just another part of me."
"We are one."
GOD BLESS ALL:)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Chamone on February 26, 2010, 05:57:57 AM
If we focus on the haters, they will get what they want. We are an army of L.O.V.E. We don't have to agree on everything (or anything for that matter!) just as long as we respect each other. No need to hate.

There is nothing that can't be done
If we raise our voice as one!


Or as caption-MJ would say;
HATERS TO THE LEFT!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: MJLover1990 on February 26, 2010, 06:20:20 AM
AMEN Souza! Wonderful post. I agree with your theory and we need to speak up for Michael because he can't speak for himself now. He'll have my full support and he has all our full support. It's sad because some people will understand why he did this and some may not understand it because they first have to understand the reason behind why he is doing this. I don't mind that some people are not fans on here the most important thing is that we all love him no matter if a person is a fan or not. He is loved and he knows it, and we need to be there for him in every possible way we can. Thanks for the post Souza, some people need to show respect.

Peace ~ Love ~ Unity ~ Respect
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 26, 2010, 06:25:53 AM
Quote
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Hate us for it if you want, I won't lose a minute of sleep because of it

Amen to that, girl! We are here with you  ;)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: loveratheart4mj on February 26, 2010, 06:27:16 AM
Michaels message: Its all about L.O.V.E. period.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sunrise on February 26, 2010, 06:33:49 AM
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: ni-co-le on February 26, 2010, 07:13:06 AM
;) AMEN
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: frogh777 on February 26, 2010, 07:19:57 AM
Quote from: "sunrise"
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
''What about this one!! If I were there, security would really have their hands ful''
does this sound like a fan? I dont know, maybe Souza changed her mind..
but what does it matter she is a fan or not. I think they are doing some great job!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sunrise on February 26, 2010, 07:24:28 AM
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "sunrise"
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
''What about this one!! If I were there, security would really have their hands ful''
does this sound like a fan? I dont know, maybe Souza changed her mind..
but what does it matter she is a fan or not. I think they are doing some great job!


like I said, I`m just curious  :roll:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: *Mo* on February 26, 2010, 07:55:02 AM
Quote from: "sunrise"
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "sunrise"
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
''What about this one!! If I were there, security would really have their hands ful''
does this sound like a fan? I dont know, maybe Souza changed her mind..
but what does it matter she is a fan or not. I think they are doing some great job!


like I said, I`m just curious  :roll:

You are putting to much emphasis on comments Souza made months ago.  It's extremely irrelevant, anyone can say someone is cute without being a fan, anyone can like an artist's music without being a fan, and admire a person's abilities without being a fan.  There's nothing odd about that.  Stop scrutinizing her words, it's not going anywhere.  Souza made her point, period.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sunrise on February 26, 2010, 08:15:44 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "sunrise"
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "sunrise"
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
''What about this one!! If I were there, security would really have their hands ful''
does this sound like a fan? I dont know, maybe Souza changed her mind..
but what does it matter she is a fan or not. I think they are doing some great job!


like I said, I`m just curious  :roll:

You are putting to much emphasis on comments Souza made months ago.  It's extremely irrelevant, anyone can say someone is cute without being a fan, anyone can like an artist's music without being a fan, and admire a person's a  bilities without being a fan.  There's nothing odd about that.  Stop scrutinizing her words, it's not going anywhere.  Souza made her point, period.


oh my god, there`s no need to be aggressive.. it was just a question.. :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 26, 2010, 08:30:54 AM
Quote from: "sunrise"
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "sunrise"
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
''What about this one!! If I were there, security would really have their hands ful''
does this sound like a fan? I dont know, maybe Souza changed her mind..
but what does it matter she is a fan or not. I think they are doing some great job!


like I said, I`m just curious  :roll:

That was a joke between me and Rachel and it really pissed Amy off. I had opened the 18+ topic for (believe it or not) investigative reasons, to bust a double, but that went out of hand because some were posting some close-ups. Instead of deleting the post that were out of hand, Amy just deleted the whole topic and I thought that was unfair, because I was really trying to make a point with the topic. But the rest was having fun and it took the pressure off the jar back then so I ignored Amy and opened a new one, just for fun because the 18+ had served its purpose already. Amy pissed and I opened MJKIT and a lot of people followed. Call it marketing if you want.

And don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't like his music, or his shows because I do, I just don't have 'idols', I like a lot of different kinds of music and I never understood screaming and fainting fans at a concert. The word 'fan' just doesn't suit me. Fans know everything about their idol, I knew nothing about him. So I didn't change my mind, I actually began to admire him more during the past 8 months, but not as a fan.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 26, 2010, 08:37:17 AM
Oh and btw... I really do think my signature pic is cute, I don't think that there is a woman in this world that would disagree ;)

Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: CC on February 26, 2010, 08:43:40 AM
on topic: AMEN! ;)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sunrise on February 26, 2010, 08:52:07 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "sunrise"
Quote from: "frogh777"
Quote from: "sunrise"
@ souza:  since when you`re not a fan?? I knew that Mo is not a fan, but you?? just read the old MJHD.. e.g.  http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/MJHD/index_3834.html)

why are you saying now that you`re not a fan?? I know it doesn`t matter, but I`m just curious..
''What about this one!! If I were there, security would really have their hands ful''
does this sound like a fan? I dont know, maybe Souza changed her mind..
but what does it matter she is a fan or not. I think they are doing some great job!


like I said, I`m just curious  :roll:

That was a joke between me and Rachel and it really pissed Amy off. I had opened the 18+ topic for (believe it or not) investigative reasons, to bust a double, but that went out of hand because some were posting some close-ups. Instead of deleting the post that were out of hand, Amy just deleted the whole topic and I thought that was unfair, because I was really trying to make a point with the topic. But the rest was having fun and it took the pressure off the jar back then so I ignored Amy and opened a new one, just for fun because the 18+ had served its purpose already. Amy pissed and I opened MJKIT and a lot of people followed. Call it marketing if you want.

And don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't like his music, or his shows because I do, I just don't have 'idols', I like a lot of different kinds of music and I never understood screaming and fainting fans at a concert. The word 'fan' just doesn't suit me. Fans know everything about their idol, I knew nothing about him. So I didn't change my mind, I actually began to admire him more during the past 8 months, but not as a fan.


Thanks for your answer souza :)

"I had opened the 18+ topic for (believe it or not) investigative reasons, to bust a double, but that went out of hand because some were posting some close-ups"

Yes, I remember that...lol.. :lol:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 26, 2010, 09:03:25 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Oh and btw... I really do think my signature pic is cute, I don't think that there is a woman in this world that would disagree ;)


You're absolutely right  ;)

I'm a huge fan since the release of Dangerous, but it doesn't matter to me if everyone here is a fan or not.

We are all here for the same thing: Finding out the truth (no matter what that truth is) and to support Michael.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 26, 2010, 09:42:41 AM
You know what Mo and So?

I think you guys are swell!!   :D  Ive heard all the bitching back and forth between people about you guys and I never understood it. Ive never had a problem with either of you at all. EVER.
But when you get the majority of hoax beleievers in a bunch of different forums, that are mostly FEMALE...there will be some cattiness. Its unavoidable. Yes, girls can be bitches to the bone...including me, but I choose to only show that side when needed or provoked, which I have done on a few occasions.
I, will admit that I have not read ALL of your theories, but I have read a little bit and you guys actually do research!! All the others that claim to know "THE TRUTH" but yet never fork it over, to me, are just attention seekers. Its total BS..I say that if they want REAL positve attention, then they do THEIR homework before blasting their pieholes to the world with their drivel. MAYBE, just maybe will they then get the due attention they are seeking so badly....cus right now its negative attention...and if thats what they crave then whatever.
You guys have done an astounding job with your homework and the info on this site...I commend you!!!!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: paula-c on February 26, 2010, 09:46:08 AM
I do not know what happened with Maura, but one thing I am certain it is that it is easier to prove that Michael is alive, to show that he died, and another thing is that the theories of Zouza and Mo are supported by actual events, and Michael suffered much because of people who definitely hate it (still can not explain why both hate), and suffered because of the media. For me and this became a moral commitment and I will defend this man in every way possible, and if possible, know who are these demons that wish to destroy it even today. :evil:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: tabloidburn on February 26, 2010, 09:46:20 AM
standing ovations from here to you, mo and souza and everybody contributing their wisdom and wit in here.

i was never a partícular fan and i almost feel 'bad' for posting so much. i have looked for months for a place like this one, because i kept having that gut feeling that something is very wrong here. before june 25, 2009, i even fell for some of the tabloid trash written about michael jackson. and that only because i didn't do any further research on where it came from, what his position really was in terms of how deeply he really felt about his concerns, etc.

everything that happened since last june taught me (again) to look behind everything the media are reporting. not that i'm not a conscious person, but to the general public, michael jackson was just 'the most eccentric pop star', his messages were cleverly hidden behind 'happy go lucky' pop music. of course i knew all of his music, but since i never bought any recordings (until now... :oops: ...shame on me), i didn't get to the songs that were not considered 'hits' or were not even promoted as such. in his later work, his messages became all the more deeper, clearer meaning more openly displayed by a harder beat or deeper voice. but you have to get into 'the man' and not the persona.

people who do not understand that and thus will not understand why this is very probably the greatest hoax in the history of mankind, have definitley not understood what michael is about and why he must have felt that there was just no other way to get the message across. this was not a death, but a major wake-up-call!!!

this is not a looney-bin! this is a place where people think, take stuff apart, do research or just have some plain good ol' fun and from where we spread the l.o.v.e.! this is the ultimate l.o.v.e.-playground! and don't people become the biggest idiots when they're in love? and doesn't it feel great?

yes, it does!  :mrgreen: and i want more of it every day!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

thank you again, mo and souza for keeping an eye on us looneys runnin' around here and keeping the order!
i highly respect and admire what you do here. (*bows*)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: kingofmystery on February 26, 2010, 09:52:13 AM
Well said, Souza.  I know you and Mo are dedicated to finding the truth and you both have my respect and gratitude for that.  Committing to truth is always risky and takes courage; you never know what truth you may find.  The truth can hurt, but the truth sets you free from the prison of ignorance.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: andreita2994 on February 26, 2010, 10:22:48 AM
i watch Maura videos but i also read and watch  your theories and video.although i don't  agree 100% with both of you. i think you guys are doing are great job.  although you guys have different view about all this. but that's what makes  a person unique......  everyone thinks different and their own opinion and beliefs. we must respect and tolerate  different opinions. we don't know exactly  what happened with mj. that's why  many people  have many theories. because we all want to know. we can clues and and important facts about him fakiong his death but that's it more than that is just speculations and theories. which are great by the way but it is what we think that happen.   but the thing is we all  think that mj may  still alive period. how he fake his death or why he did it or when is he  going to return? truth is we don't know. but that's why we  investigate and in our own way. we all must unite and  stop fighting. buys remember L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Infinitylady on February 26, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
Quote
[We have tried really hard to stay polite, but I am fed up with the crap. We have been attacked many times because we are not fans, who gives a fuck? It's not like we hate him! I think we have proven that many times. You don't have to be a fan to like someone, wake up!
/b]

Thanks for sharing that!! Because I have noticed when people have spoken up about it people get too sensitive.  Good that you brought this up.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: the arabian nights on February 26, 2010, 10:48:17 AM
yes you dont have to be die hard fans

you dont have to have followed him for years and bought up all his cd's or even one

everyone has an opinion and this is a good site to vent those feelings, concerns and what if's this site has improved recently - the bitchiness has stopped, kindness and understanding, support given even when a very controversial point is made.

a little less swearing would be nice.

but i do think whatever you say, that your affected by adverse comments (your only human) because otherwise you would not have made the post.

you care about the hoax and thats all that matters

mj has his reasons - if not dead - and those reasons may never come to light or may be as plain as day, it may be a bit of everything discussed

they say - that there are 2 types of truth, the first is the truth you want people to believe and the second is your own personal truth. we will never find out mj's own personal truth, but we are experiencing the truth he wants us to believe

i am uncomfortable with some of it

and if i could roll back the time - i think i would have rather not have got suckered in - the whole helicopter thing

i dont personally see the purpose of this hoax.

and if poor mj is dead - i think some pp are shameful and will have to explain themselves on judgment day
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: XspeechlessX on February 26, 2010, 10:55:19 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Oh and btw... I really do think my signature pic is cute, I don't think that there is a woman in this world that would disagree ;)


too right!  :D
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: becca26 on February 26, 2010, 11:27:08 AM
I feel like a broken record when I say this but it is true from my heart, I really do L.O.V.E. you Souza and Mo for doing this site for us and most of all Michael, I've been on this since the begining and both of your posts I always made a point to read, I would search for them, I love the way you both think, your both very sharp and real! I don't like that fact that people are bashing you and threating you, this is not right, I hope that we could all stick together and stay on the path for Michael. I just wanted to show you both the L.O.V.E. and surpport you have for us and MJ from the start. God bless you both.  :)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: tabloidburn on February 26, 2010, 11:45:36 AM
And don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't like his music, or his shows because I do, I just don't have 'idols', I like a lot of different kinds of music and I never understood screaming and fainting fans at a concert. The word 'fan' just doesn't suit me. Fans know everything about their idol, I knew nothing about him. So I didn't change my mind, I actually began to admire him more during the past 8 months, but not as a fan.
[/color][/quote]


mo, you took the words right out of my mouth. i have nothing but utter admiration for michael jackson's genius (always did, but didn't get into the person he was too much) - in all aspects. maybe it's an 'age thing'. too. but your 'definition' here hits the nail on the head. even when truly admiring someone and seeing a live performance will never make me faint! cuz i'm just not like that...i'm totally on your page here, mo! couldn't have said it better myself!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: heisinme09 on February 26, 2010, 11:48:50 AM
I had posted this on another thread in this forum, but I wanted to be sure you all saw this too...for I believe it is particularly relevant here and I hope you will share it with everyone you can...as soon as you can....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY)!

Peace to you all!
Stay focused!
BeLIEve!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: karen-ishealive on February 26, 2010, 12:05:52 PM
Well said Souza, i've been here since day 1 and admire what you and Mo are doing. The last thing we need is another MJHD so I suggest if these so called fans don't like this site then you know where the door is.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: city.gal1 on February 26, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Hi Mo & Souza,  I'm not sure what is really going on because I don't get a chance to check the board very often and have been less involved since you switched board formats.  What I wanted to say is this, I so much appreciate that you have this place to discuss all things MJ "death" related.

I did not consider myself a fan either (since the Thriller days), I had my own life to live and didn't much pay attention to MJ over the years.  However, since the "death" I had noticed inconsistencies right away.  One would think that these are blatently obivious if a person that did not "follow" MJ could notice them.  It still stymies me that the media is not picking up on these things or if they are, not reporting them for whatever reasons.

While I do not always agree with the various theories you put out there, I always marvel at the amount of work/thought that the two of you put into them.  (Where do you find the time?)  And even if I don't agree with a theory as a whole, you certainly do make good points at least in part -- things that make you go hmmmm.

I'm glad that you are able to let any bashing of you guys "roll down your back".  Please continue to do what you do.  I don't understand why some feel the need to bash others just because of a difference of opinion, etc. -- just agree to disagree.

Anyway, I want to let you guys know that you and the site are much appreciated.  I say keep the theories, discoveries, conversation, and even the disputes coming!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Kuki on February 26, 2010, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: "CrazyBanana"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.


Mike needs you, even if our 'crazy theories' turn out to be true. He needs to know he has your full support, that you understand why he is doing this. It's not important WHEN he returns, it's important that IF he returns, he can do so in safety, knowing we got his back.


Bravo - these are the exact reasons that led me on the path to find this forum. It's high time we all speak out on his behalf and defend him. Thank you.

and as Randy put it "My brother doesn’t have a voice anymore…. We must fight & speak for him."

Amen to that!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: moyrum on February 26, 2010, 01:12:55 PM
Hey this is the best forum that i have come across, its the only forum i make sure to log in everyday. No matter what Souza and Mo keep up the great work your doing and remember we all are one here, no one is alone and we all as one will be always be there for Michael no matter what may come our way, lots of love x x x  ;)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: mjfansince4 on February 26, 2010, 01:57:25 PM
3 pages (and counting) of support. you've got mine.

this forum gives a place to speak out, to find truth and to literally connect with other people all over the world for one reason: michael jackson. in doing so, we're doing what he lived his entire life doing, spreading love.

yes, there are people here who write their opinions that he's dead and we should get over ourselves. (to those, why are you here anyways?) but...if you look through all the threads and posts, people here are supporting each other, encouraging each other and helping each other.

mo and souza: i joined maybe 2 weeks ago. this site is fantastic. you guys have our love. forgot those (i know its hard) who insult you. they're just jealous the information here is better than theirs.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: the arabian nights on February 26, 2010, 02:03:15 PM
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
standing ovations from here to you, mo and souza and everybody contributing their wisdom and wit in here.

i was never a partícular fan and i almost feel 'bad' for posting so much. i have looked for months for a place like this one, because i kept having that gut feeling that something is very wrong here. before june 25, 2009, i even fell for some of the tabloid trash written about michael jackson. and that only because i didn't do any further research on where it came from, what his position really was in terms of how deeply he really felt about his concerns, etc.

everything that happened since last june taught me (again) to look behind everything the media are reporting. not that i'm not a conscious person, but to the general public, michael jackson was just 'the most eccentric pop star', his messages were cleverly hidden behind 'happy go lucky' pop music. of course i knew all of his music, but since i never bought any recordings (until now... :oops: ...shame on me), i didn't get to the songs that were not considered 'hits' or were not even promoted as such. in his later work, his messages became all the more deeper, clearer meaning more openly displayed by a harder beat or deeper voice. but you have to get into 'the man' and not the persona.

people who do not understand that and thus will not understand why this is very probably the greatest hoax in the history of mankind, have definitley not understood what michael is about and why he must have felt that there was just no other way to get the message across. this was not a death, but a major wake-up-call!!!

this is not a looney-bin! this is a place where people think, take stuff apart, do research or just have some plain good ol' fun and from where we spread the l.o.v.e.! this is the ultimate l.o.v.e.-playground! and don't people become the biggest idiots when they're in love? and doesn't it feel great?

yes, it does!  :mrgreen: and i want more of it every day!   :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:

thank you again, mo and souza for keeping an eye on us looneys runnin' around here and keeping the order!
i highly respect and admire what you do here. (*bows*)

thank you for your honesty

i respect that

x
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: the arabian nights on February 26, 2010, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: "city.gal1"
Hi Mo & Souza,  I'm not sure what is really going on because I don't get a chance to check the board very often and have been less involved since you switched board formats.  What I wanted to say is this, I so much appreciate that you have this place to discuss all things MJ "death" related.

I did not consider myself a fan either (since the Thriller days), I had my own life to live and didn't much pay attention to MJ over the years.  However, since the "death" I had noticed inconsistencies right away.  One would think that these are blatently obivious if a person that did not "follow" MJ could notice them.  It still stymies me that the media is not picking up on these things or if they are, not reporting them for whatever reasons.

While I do not always agree with the various theories you put out there, I always marvel at the amount of work/thought that the two of you put into them.  (Where do you find the time?)  And even if I don't agree with a theory as a whole, you certainly do make good points at least in part -- things that make you go hmmmm.

I'm glad that you are able to let any bashing of you guys "roll down your back".  Please continue to do what you do.  I don't understand why some feel the need to bash others just because of a difference of opinion, etc. -- just agree to disagree.

Anyway, I want to let you guys know that you and the site are much appreciated.  I say keep the theories, discoveries, conversation, and even the disputes coming!

i totally understand
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on February 26, 2010, 02:09:20 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"



For the other Souza & M0 haters] Has anyone ever thought about the fact that there is a possibility that the theories in our blogs could be true? Have you ever thought about it that when you call our theories freaking insane, you could be calling Mike freaking insane? I guess not.[/b]



This is something i always thought that's why i have my respect for you and for this site,you guys always had the believable theories ! don't ever give up on us the believers!
I fully agree on this entire post of yours. and all i can say is "bravo". :!:
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: Magic Tricks on February 26, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: "andreita2994"
i watch Maura videos but i also read and watch  your theories and video.although i don't  agree 100% with both of you. i think you guys are doing are great job.  although you guys have different view about all this. but that's what makes  a person unique......  everyone thinks different and their own opinion and beliefs. we must respect and tolerate  different opinions. we don't know exactly  what happened with mj. that's why  many people  have many theories. because we all want to know. we can clues and and important facts about him fakiong his death but that's it more than that is just speculations and theories. which are great by the way but it is what we think that happen.   but the thing is we all  think that mj may  still alive period. how he fake his death or why he did it or when is he  going to return? truth is we don't know. but that's why we  investigate and in our own way. we all must unite and  stop fighting. buys remember L.O.V.E

Same here.. I read MJHDI almost daily and also read and watch theories in other forums.. So I read the information and get my own conclusions.. We have differents points of view and opinions and I respect all of them.. I truly appreciate the work that you guys put in this hoax investigation.. YOU ARE THE BEST!! :)  We are all here for the same reason, MJ and we shouldnt forget that its all for L.O.V.E!!

ps.. sorry for my english..
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: liegi on February 26, 2010, 03:44:40 PM
Dear Mo and Souza,
Thanks very much for organizing this forum and for all the work you do.  I agree with you 100%--whether or not we are fans or people who sympathize with Michael, we must seek the truth.  I read other forums and blogs, but yours is the best.  My best wishes to you and us.  I am confident we will find the truth--the truth will prevail.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: ClassOf2013 on February 26, 2010, 04:02:06 PM
I totally agree with your thread. Almost every person has a hater- I know I do- and that's the way it is. But some people are really mean, and you just need to ignore them. That's what I do.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: MJlover on February 26, 2010, 06:17:51 PM
The fact that MoandSouza are not big MJ fans makes me trust them even more because they have a different perspective from diehard fans.

Mo&Souza, I truly respect you and appreciate the time and effort you put into this investigation to find the truth for us 'love-crazed' Michaelmaniacs.
I'll be with you till BAMsday and beyond!   ;)

MICHAEL I love you SO much and will be here for you always  <3
...but hurry up and come back because it's not easy living without you. :(
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 26, 2010, 07:13:50 PM
Great post Mo and Souza.  What puzzles me are the "fans" who hate us because we believe he is "alive", as if we are committing a cardinal sin in our believing.  Why is investigating obvious screw ups and fabricated information and reports a threat to them?  Why is it so important to them that just because he was reported to be dead, though nothing points in  that direction, its got to be the truth?   Why aren't they fuming?  If they are too devastated to handle this and we, even in our anguish or hurting or what ever, has still taken it upon ourselves to get to put our emotions aside and work to get to the bottom of things, they should be commending us.  It doesn't  make any sense to me.  They get so angry and belligerent at the mere mention of the idea that maybe, just maybe our Michael could have been in danger and/or had to get away.  WHAT :evil:  :?:  :?:  :?: Believe  me, those folk, the "real fans" as they love to advertise, go totally freakin ballistic at the mention of hoax or conspiracy.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sbrowne on February 26, 2010, 07:19:00 PM
Isn't that the whole point? To stay together on this, that's how we are help Mike. Despite all the BS people are putting out there about him. We can't lose faith in this great adventure he's taking us all on.
I know that if we stick together and not fall into the lies and manipulations, and prove to Mike that we do have is back, he will come back. He has to come back anyway to finish what he started, with our help. That's what I he needs, for us to help him with this project. I can't wait, and I am not nercous at all about this journey he's taking us on. You guys shouldn't be too. And for the haters, we can try to change their minds but they have come into their own truth and what the truth is. So lets not waste our time on them becuase something bigger is happening, I don't know what it is, I can feel it though, something amazing is going to happen and its got me excited. So I think that's what we should do, focus on what Mike wants us to do, instead of focusing on what is negative, they will be dealt with in time, and by focuing on the good
we can expose them at the same time. A think that's what Mike wants us to do. He's gone now, not saying he's dead, but he is gone, so what are going to do about that? We can't give up. The haters just have to deal with it move on. I don't know about the rest of, but I am not going ANYWHERE. Until Michael returns.
I know that there isn't one hater that can stop me or make me turn the other check. So Michael, you have my not only my total support, but and army of love waiting for your reutrn. L.O.V.E HATERS
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 26, 2010, 07:26:52 PM
DAMN, I'M GETTING FIRED UP :lol:

LETS DO THIS!

L.O.V.E. that's the real deal.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: mjgirl86 on February 26, 2010, 07:41:22 PM
Wow, what's going on? I live under a rock.... I don't see why there is hate.... remember the L.O.V.E. people... Mo and Souza are awesome, they never disrespected anyone, so why jump down their throats?... don't take kindness for weakness!

It's kind of childish to be angry because they are not "fans". That's silly. There's no bashing, dishonoring, or rudeness, so what is the problem? Don't presume to know how they feel, or assume what you think they know.

These debates, and arguments are pointless. What are we here for? Don't get off track, causing unnecessary obstacles, bumps in the road, pointing fingers, just because.

I miss the way things were on the old board. Much more respect. As I told JACKSONOLOGIST, too many hot headed, finger pointing newbies floating around.. no offense.. and it kind of made me drift away, because it's petty, and I'm too mature for this.

I take my hat off to the moderators, I would've lost my head way worse than this.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: paula-c on February 26, 2010, 07:44:26 PM
hesouttamylife, Are there really people who hate us?, Should not go that far  :geek:
Title: Re: Let\'s do it one more time...
Post by: Dorian on February 26, 2010, 08:11:59 PM
Everybody just stop and pause for a moment. What are we doing here? This entire "battle" has gotten completely out of control.
I have spent the better part of seven months, standing on the sidelines and watching this hoax unfold. I have seen bad things come and bad things go. I have seen people manipulate the truth and do things for attention. I have seen people with some real information, laughed at and mocked because it was just "too good to be true".

Souza and Mo, I have been checking out what you've been doing since the old MJHD days.
I personally don't have an issue with you. There are things that have been done that I don't like, but it hasn't made me dislike you.

Maura is somebody that I have only recently become aquainted with, though I have been watching her videos from the very first one posted.

I have had a few private conversations with her and was amazed by how much this entire thing means to her.  
We connected and she let me into her life a bit and I was pretty amazed at her dedication to all of this, considering what she already has going for herself.
She made me well aware of alot of information that she has obtained regarding this hoax and I can completely understand why she hasn't just been so quick to blurt it out.

The thing is, i've watched all of her videos and most of everything is presented as a theory. When something is presented as a fact, the evidence is typically given to us.
But does it matter? People make these hoax videos and they are interesting and entertaining to say the very least, but why is all of this drama going into them?
What has this girl done to deserve this witch burning? People are doing to her exactly what has been done to the very man that you all claim to love and care about.

Now there are actually people in this thread stating "It's ok if you aren't a fan"? Are you kidding me? When is it ok to not be a fan, but say so many things about someone that could completely destroy what little bit of a repuation they have left?

Alot of you people that are in here backing up Mo and Souza are the exact same people that had not so nice things to say about them recently.

I am not choosing sides here because there should be ONE side. Believers. People that want to get to the bottom of what has happened.

Michael..... Do you think he likes this? Do you think these constant attacks on one another will make him happy? Do you think that this was his purpose?

I've spoken with Maura and she has decided that she is no longer going to make hoax videos. That really hurts my heart. Even if you didn't agree with all of her theories, she was getting the message out there. Maybe not the message that you all wanted to hear.

I've never posted on here before and I won't post anymore, because I don't feel there is a need to respond to the attacks that i am going to get. I just want to say,  shame on all of you. Shame on her for the video she made toward people here and shame on Souza and Mo for all of the things they have done to people. Shame on people on this thread that are playing both sides of the fence.

To back somebody into a corner that holds an answer that you have all been waiting for, was so wrong. You can say all of your nasty things now, but I give it just a few weeks before you are full of regret. Because the truth is coming and all of your nasty behavior and hate, has completely changed the course of that truth and this investigation.

I'm sorry for all of you in advance.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: badkolo on February 26, 2010, 08:28:43 PM
thanks for coming.
Title: Re: Let\'s do it one more time...
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 26, 2010, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: "Dorian"
Everybody just stop and pause for a moment. What are we doing here? This entire "battle" has gotten completely out of control.
I have spent the better part of seven months, standing on the sidelines and watching this hoax unfold. I have seen bad things come and bad things go. I have seen people manipulate the truth and do things for attention. I have seen people with some real information, laughed at and mocked because it was just "too good to be true".

Souza and Mo, I have been checking out what you've been doing since the old MJHD days.
I personally don't have an issue with you. There are things that have been done that I don't like, but it hasn't made me dislike you.

Maura is somebody that I have only recently become aquainted with, though I have been watching her videos from the very first one posted.

I have had a few private conversations with her and was amazed by how much this entire thing means to her.  
We connected and she let me into her life a bit and I was pretty amazed at her dedication to all of this, considering what she already has going for herself.
She made me well aware of alot of information that she has obtained regarding this hoax and I can completely understand why she hasn't just been so quick to blurt it out.

The thing is, i've watched all of her videos and most of everything is presented as a theory. When something is presented as a fact, the evidence is typically given to us.
But does it matter? People make these hoax videos and they are interesting and entertaining to say the very least, but why is all of this drama going into them?
What has this girl done to deserve this witch burning? People are doing to her exactly what has been done to the very man that you all claim to love and care about.

Now there are actually people in this thread stating "It's ok if you aren't a fan"? Are you kidding me? When is it ok to not be a fan, but say so many things about someone that could completely destroy what little bit of a repuation they have left?

Alot of you people that are in here backing up Mo and Souza are the exact same people that had not so nice things to say about them recently.

I am not choosing sides here because there should be ONE side. Believers. People that want to get to the bottom of what has happened.

Michael..... Do you think he likes this? Do you think these constant attacks on one another will make him happy? Do you think that this was his purpose?

I've spoken with Maura and she has decided that she is no longer going to make hoax videos. That really hurts my heart. Even if you didn't agree with all of her theories, she was getting the message out there. Maybe not the message that you all wanted to hear.

I've never posted on here before and I won't post anymore, because I don't feel there is a need to respond to the attacks that i am going to get. I just want to say,  shame on all of you. Shame on her for the video she made toward people here and shame on Souza and Mo for all of the things they have done to people. Shame on people on this thread that are playing both sides of the fence.

To back somebody into a corner that holds an answer that you have all been waiting for, was so wrong. You can say all of your nasty things now, but I give it just a few weeks before you are full of regret. Because the truth is coming and all of your nasty behavior and hate, has completely changed the course of that truth and this investigation.

I'm sorry for all of you in advance.

Well Jonathan/MediaHypeAgain, we have been watching you as well and we don't like what we see lately.
If you dislike hate, talk to your Maura again. We never bashed Mike, we have never been disrespectful. Think again.

Like I told you: Go back to your playground and leave the grown ups alone. And Dorian huh? Nice one...
Title: Re: Let\'s do it one more time...
Post by: Dorian on February 26, 2010, 08:45:49 PM
For real Souza? You are going to just disrespect me like that? When I didn't say anything at all to disrespect you?

My post was toward everybody , because everybody has been wrong toward one another.
 If you want to turn this into a "bash him" thread. That's cool with me.
I didn't come here for that. I'm speaking the truth.  If people say they have good intentions, then that's what they should have. This bashing needs to stop. Any adult would see that. Clearly the 13 year olds on this forum don't, but the real adults should see that. But you know what? I'm just a "guest" in your home. I'm not going come in here to disrespect you. I'll just log out.

What is going on in the dark is always revealed in the light. A wise person once said that... Take care Souza
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 26, 2010, 08:46:09 PM
I don't know squat about the Mo and Souza and Maura controversy.  That was before my time.  I do however know about people who shout Michael, I love you more to the top of their lungs and talk about healing the world in every other breath who will 100% of the time, call you every ugly name imaginable and accuse you of being a "fake' fan if you go against their ideal of Michael having left this world and is now floating with  guilded wings in heaven.  And that is NOT an exaggeration.  You would be amazed at how quick and how fierce the attacks become.  All that it's all for love goes out the door and through the chimney.  I kid you not.  It is something to behold.  You would think you had cursed their mother or smacked one of their children.  I can respect their wanting to believe in what they believe.  What I can't understand is how quickly those those halos can turn to horns if you suggest an alternate reality.  They live :lol:  and it is like a cult.
Title: Re: Let\'s do it one more time...
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 26, 2010, 08:52:40 PM
Quote from: "Dorian"
For real Souza? You are going to just disrespect me like that? When I didn't say anything at all to disrespect you?

Who called US garbage? You did! So who are you to judge?

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My post was toward everybody , because everybody has been wrong toward one another.
 If you want to turn this into a "bash him" thread. That's cool with me.
I didn't come here for that. I'm speaking the truth.  If people say they have good intentions, then that's what they should have. This bashing needs to stop. Any adult would see that. Clearly the 13 year olds on this forum don't, but the real adults should see that. But you know what? I'm just a "guest" in your home. I'm not going come in here to disrespect you. I'll just log out.

What is going on in the dark is always revealed in the light. A wise person once said that... Take care Souza
YES this bashing needs to stop, so what are you doing here?


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Now there are actually people in this thread stating "It's ok if you aren't a fan"? Are you kidding me? When is it ok to not be a fan, but say so many things about someone that could completely destroy what little bit of a repuation they have left?

Alot of you people that are in here backing up Mo and Souza are the exact same people that had not so nice things to say about them recently.

Oh really? HOW did we disrespect him MHA? Tell me, I am curious. You know exactly what we are doing and that is why you are scared enough to crawl from under your rock.


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Shame on Souza and Mo for all of the things they have done to people.

Like what? Examples please, or go back and hide under your rock.
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 26, 2010, 09:01:48 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
I don't know squat about the Mo and Souza and Maura controversy.  That was before my time.  I do however know about people who shout Michael, I love you more to the top of their lungs and talk about healing the world in every other breath who will 100% of the time, call you every ugly name imaginable and accuse you of being a "fake' fan if you go against their ideal of Michael having left this world and is now floating with  guilded wings in heaven.  And that is NOT an exaggeration.  You would be amazed at how quick and how fierce the attacks become.  All that it's all for love goes out the door and through the chimney.  I kid you not.  It is something to behold.  You would think you had cursed their mother or smacked one of their children.  I can respect their wanting to believe in what they believe.  What I can't understand is how quickly those those halos can turn to horns if you suggest an alternate reality.  They live :lol:  and it is like a cult.
I'm on your page.. I come from Maximum Jackson, and it is just like that there.. The people there, for all they talk about Michael and his ideals, are constantly laughing at other people, particularly these certain two very respected mods there.. I never really liked their attitudes before the 25th, but I thought they were open-minded.. Anyone who tries to bring up anything questioning Michael's "death" as anything other than what it is presented as (you know, he was secretly an addict all these years and the Propofol nonsense) is INSTANTLY mocked, scolded and has their thread closed down.. Thank God I saw that long before I learned about the hoax..
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 26, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
What is even more amazing is that many posters are actually afraid to let on that they have doubts about the truth.  They are in hiding, afraid to come out of the closet.  But guess what guys, I see :shock: you :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: BAM!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 26, 2010, 09:22:42 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
What is even more amazing is that many posters are actually afraid to let on that they have doubts about the truth.  They are in hiding, afraid to come out of the closet.  But guess what guys, I see :shock: you :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: BAM!
Are you talking about MaxJax? Because you're right, when I first learned about it I thought "Heck no way I'm sharing anything here, I'll be roasted alive", LOL!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: heisinme09 on February 26, 2010, 11:38:06 PM
Everyone! I truly say this "with the L.O.V.E".....Please Stop the Mad-ness! Literally...there is some negative energy happening that is hard to see....
Please click on the following link now....it will sooth your soul...and I believe it applies not only to Michael Jackson, the original reason we're all even here, but to each and every one of us individually....please don't forget the L.O.V.E....without it, we're all lost...I believe this video will smooth ruffled feathers and calm folks down...it's only about a minute long....but it speaks volumes about what is hopefully important to all of us...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI8RTbJLTbY)

Love and Peace to you all!
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: KingofPop4ever on February 27, 2010, 12:26:48 AM
"For the other Souza & M0 haters: Has anyone ever thought about the fact that there is a possibility that the theories in our blogs could be true? Have you ever thought about it that when you call our theories freaking insane, you could be calling Mike freaking insane? I guess not."



"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

~Aristotle

 ;)
Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: 50thstatebeliever on February 27, 2010, 01:36:57 AM
There is a song ~ a song that I have always felt reminded me of MJ...even if it isn't one of his songs...I'm sure you all know it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGvfjiaZ1oU&feature=related ("Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls)...
The lyrics just make me think of MJ...and I whenever I listen to this song, I can imagine him singing it...he is here~there~where ever you all are~some things in our world cannot be explained fully to all extent...and it is faith that bonds the believers to the things that cannot be seen - but can be felt...it is about an energy that exists between people, near and far - an energy that can only prove itself in time.  I believe. And if my belief angers others, so let it be their negative energies that fill their souls...as for my soul ~ it fills with energy from faith that there is more to MJ than just his existance, his accomplishments, his disappearance from what we understand to be the "normal world" we exist in...he is in lyrics, not only his own lyrics, but lyrics all around us - as he was fond of all these that held meaning and depth, light, shadows, pulse...I believe. He sends his energy...and it transforms as faith within us...and he is there, somewhere - pleading for us to not give up hope...to believe.

"Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls:
   
And I'd give up forever to touch you
Cause I know that you feel me somehow
You're the closest to heaven that I'll ever be
And I don't want to go home right now



And all I can taste is this moment
And all I can breathe is your life
Cause sooner or later it's over
I just don't want to miss you tonight


And I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am


And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming
Or the moment of truth in your lies
When everything seems like the movies
Yeah you bleed just to know your alive



And I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am


I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am

I just want you to know who I am
I just want you to know who I am
I just want you to know who I am
I just want you to know who I am
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Title: Re: Let's do it one more time...
Post by: sweet1 on February 27, 2010, 01:55:39 AM
Quote from: "EternalMichael"
Well said Souza !
I have just one thing to add : Souza and Mo, I love you !
Don't stop 'til you get the truth !

Ditto! I would just like to let the both of you know that your theories are awesome! Keep in mind no one likes the truth that is why there are so many haters on this forum. God Bless you both and keep up the great job. Keep the Faith! :)
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