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Title: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Grace on February 25, 2010, 01:49:05 PM
Empty, tired, exhausted, thrilled, excited, changed, happy, sad?

I for me hope it will not be the style of music of this remix we will be presented ( I don't think this is a credible site):

http://michaeljacksonback.com/ (http://michaeljacksonback.com/)

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I am sorry but I just don't like the style of this song (play on top).
But it raises the question: are we prepared for a new Michael? How would we feel when he'd be with us again? Like before, everything's just fine again? Different?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: loyalfan on February 25, 2010, 01:54:39 PM
AS LONG AS I KNOW MICHEAL IS WELL......I JUST WANT HIM TO BE HAPPY........WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS UP TO HIM........I WILL BE SOOOO RELIEVED........XXX
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Tina K. on February 25, 2010, 02:32:55 PM
I will cry out of joy, and cry out of sorrow, that the days in this forum will be over then.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Suzy on February 25, 2010, 02:46:18 PM
I WILL BE TIRED,BUT THE HAPPIEST,TIRED WOMAN ON THE PLANET :lol:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 25, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
I will be relieved to know that what ever the outcome, I never gave up hope.  I pray that all  is well and that he is in a place where he is experiencing love, peace and happiness. :cry: That is truly all I hope, wish and pray for.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on February 25, 2010, 03:11:01 PM
After a big "I told you so speech",I guess I'll be high for a little while but then I will probably feel some emptyness 'cause this adventure is so thrilling and take so much of my time!Of course I would like to keep in touch with the family here and hope this forum would find a new direction. ;)
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Loes on February 25, 2010, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
After a big "I told you so speech",I guess I'll be high for a little while but then I will probably feel some emptyness 'cause this adventure is so thrilling and take so much of my time!Of course I would like to keep in touch with the family here and hope this forum would find a new direction. ;)

I could have said the same thing, exactly my feelings ...  ;)

I also hope this "family" will stay here and we will discuss the aftermath of this great adventure, see how the world reacts and what his plans are for the future.
Enough to stay together here ...  :P

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Tina K. on February 25, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
yearh, and then we can keep an eye on Jermaine, cause he's probally gonna hoax his death when Michael comes back, trying to get attention :D
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 25, 2010, 03:31:21 PM
I will feel revealed and tired and happy that i can free myself from the never ending questions.
Happy that MJ is still here with us.

Then i will book myself onto the first flight to wherever he is...  in the hope i can give him that hug i have wanted to give him for so long now.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on February 25, 2010, 03:39:34 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
yearh, and then we can keep an eye on Jermaine, cause he's probally gonna hoax his death when Michael comes back, trying to get attention :D

Oh God!!! :shock:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: _Dangerous_ on February 25, 2010, 04:13:51 PM
Haha, ok.. i'm gonna do a '' i told u so, speech''  too.. haha.. i got sooooooooo many ppl who didnt believe.. XD and.. i know im gonna feel soo happy 4 have been part of this BIG adventure.. cause I must admit.. that my life was pretty boring before all this hahah  :lol:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 25, 2010, 04:55:57 PM
absolute relief
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Nathalia on February 25, 2010, 04:58:17 PM
yes definitely relieved,
As long as Michael is safe, I will be completely thrilled.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 25, 2010, 04:58:21 PM
if any other celeb wants to hoax their death - well they can do so without me blogging - i think i will just say ok - if thats what they want - i will accept it

im suckered into this now - but never again
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on February 25, 2010, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: "Nathalia"
yes definitely relieved,
As long as Michael is safe, I will be completely thrilled.

yeap i am hoping for a positive happy result
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 25, 2010, 05:22:26 PM
I will be tired but happy!
I guess that this is a feeling that a mother has after giving birth to a child!
She's exhausted but happy that it has ended!
And her child is finally in this world!!!
LOL!
Yes, that's how I will be feeling!!!
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: GirlSaturday on February 25, 2010, 05:50:23 PM
That is a good question but a tough one for me to answer.

I don't 100% fully know what we're looking for as we investigate the hoax. Therefore how will I  know when it's  over? It might already be over and I just haven't realized it yet.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: mattie on February 25, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
if any other celeb wants to hoax their death - well they can do so without me blogging - i think i will just say ok - if thats what they want - i will accept it

im suckered into this now - but never again


Exacly my feelings.
It is too much..wouldnt be able to go trough this a second time.
Mattie
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 25, 2010, 06:28:44 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
yearh, and then we can keep an eye on Jermaine, cause he's probally gonna hoax his death when Michael comes back, trying to get attention :D

LOL.  You are funny. For me, I will be very happy - it will be like a long lost family member coming home. You don't really care if their hair is different or they've lost or gained weight. You are just happy to have them back in the family. After that happens this site will change to a fan website and we can continue to keep in touch and spread Michael's message. His message will still need to get out even when he comes back...L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 25, 2010, 09:57:56 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
I will cry out of joy,
So will I.. I'll feel a burst of joy like nothing else I've ever felt before at just seeing his beautiful, precious face again.. and whatever I feel next depends on what he says/does. Most likely inspiration and empowerment will be involved- I've already decided that because of the way this hoax has opened my eyes, I'm going to try to work as someone who aids the third world countries, like installing water purifying systems to villages and such..
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: LavdHim on February 25, 2010, 10:01:18 PM
I will be happy as long as michael is happy ..  :)
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: BambiMJ on February 26, 2010, 01:02:53 PM
I think  he will not sing any more.
There is an age for all.
To look at Whitney Houston.
 Michael chose best the solution.
 To disappear.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on February 26, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Empty, tired, exhausted, thrilled, excited, changed, happy, sad?

I for me hope it will not be the style of music of this remix we will be presented ( I don't think this is a credible site):

http://michaeljacksonback.com/ (http://michaeljacksonback.com/)

[The site was created on July 12, 2009. Who is says owner is a hidden private person - but you may send an email to You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. Who is gives a German fake phone no. The name servers for the site are belonging to The Endurance International, a Massachussetts hosting company.]

I am sorry but I just don't like the style of this song (play on top).
But it raises the question: are we prepared for a new Michael? How would we feel when he'd be with us again? Like before, everything's just fine again? Different?


i will feel happy, happy to know he's okay and alive and better than ever, and that he is mostly safe, and that everything is past him and i will be happy to have my mikey back =)
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Mj5StarChick on February 26, 2010, 02:44:31 PM
OMG great topic I always wanted to know how everyone would react :D I think Michael would wanna read topics like these to get ready lools ;) But anyway I will be relieved and jubilant to finally have him back :D I mean I will never ever let him slip away from me that fast again I just can't lools. I am praying for Michael's safe return and that he is happy and better than ever, then I might be able to get some sleep at night lools :lol: :lol: . But I might cry for a few mins then start my I told u so speech :P then dance a little :P Scream he lives then just keep posted on him all day :D :D :D Of ocurse I woul love to kepe in touch with my big Mj Family tho I love u guys forever now :D :D :D !!!!!!
Sorry for such a long post yall :P :?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: CC on February 26, 2010, 02:55:01 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
if any other celeb wants to hoax their death - well they can do so without me blogging - i think i will just say ok - if thats what they want - i will accept it

im suckered into this now - but never again

 ;)  me too... i´m tired but happy because i have a lot new friends around the world!!! maybe we can stay here talking about funny things... laughing, not with this feeling we have now:uncertainty!  :)

the other night i dream that i was watching the news and they´re talking about MJ Hoax and that he is alive and all that and I start to call my friends and family saying "I told you so..." I felt great when woke up!  i never remember my dreams but this... I REMEMBER BECAUSE I FELT SO GOOD!!! :D
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: DooDoo on February 26, 2010, 03:05:45 PM
I will be overwhelmed; I will be soooo happy I'll cry a lot, I just know that; I'll be grateful to him because he, once again, thought about us and wants to share with him this adventure. I'd be curious to see what will happen next, I'll defend him if someone says bad things about him, and I'll definitely try to meet him, I'll go wherever he is. I won't miss the chance, not this time, not again. :D
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: JACKSONGIRL on February 26, 2010, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
OMG great topic I always wanted to know how everyone would react :D I think Michael would wanna read topics like these to get ready lools ;) But anyway I will be relieved and jubilant to finally have him back :D I mean I will never ever let him slip away from me that fast again I just can't lools. I am praying for Michael's safe return and that he is happy and better than ever, then I might be able to get some sleep at night lools :lol: :lol: . But I might cry for a few mins then start my I told u so speech :P then dance a little :P Scream he lives then just keep posted on him all day :D :D :D Of ocurse I woul love to kepe in touch with my big Mj Family tho I love u guys forever now :D :D :D !!!!!!
Sorry for such a long post yall :P :?
All i know is if he pops up somewhere and suddenly it's headline news that hes alive and its REAL, i;m getting my MJ gear out and throwing an MJ theme party :D everyone can come as their fav MJ  moment, thriller BOW , TWYMMF, SC, i don't care :D
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MYLOVELYONE on February 26, 2010, 07:11:02 PM
I'm going to feel really good but at the same time I'm going to feel sad becuse it have been almost eight month sharing with you guys and investigating seen clues and in spectative for someting new but we know that anytihng is forever so one day this have to end and that day we are going to have many feelings and yes hapiness is one of them but I hope that just because michael come back and everything we are not going to leave the forums and that because of him we re a family in this adventure in his advunture.
someting is very sure he is alive and we must continuos spreading the message: love.
and this is making people realize about many others thing media, lies, money, even the illuminatis for who believe in this teories but we all want one thing the truth
love for everyone. I dont know you but I love you ;)
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: loyalfan on February 28, 2010, 01:41:16 PM
"LOVE YOU MORE"....XXXX
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: loveratheart4mj on February 28, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
The day we find out MJ is "with us" and hopefully "back" I will cry with such relief and then do the happy dance of "i told you so" all over my friends who are non believers. I will show them im not crazy and shammmmmme on them. I will be so relieved this horrible rollercoaster ride is overwith. I HATE rollercoasters. They make me feel ill. At times i have been so depressed and sad and wanted this journey to be overwith so bad. If it hadnt been for this forum i wouldnt have had a place to channel all my feelings (Thank God for you guys). But i dont NEED this forum. Its just a blessing that its here. I will continue to visit this forum though and contiue to post my feelings about MJ and his family with friends just because it will be enjoyable to visit with others who love those who i love  :)  I dont like this "game, journey, life lesson or whatever it is called" because it has definitely AGED me. I dont want to ever feel this kind of STRESS again. I have felt as though i have lost a very close family member and that loss was horrible. Then finding the hoax thread gave me hope but also a horrible journey of hope and discouragement over and over. It has not been fun. I think this forum will be awesome for us to come to and discuss and enjoy our beloved Michael and his family.

Thank you all for being my friends.

loveratheart4mj aka cuddles_1960 (in yahoo)  aka Sheryll in Oklahoma
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Grace on February 28, 2010, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: "loveratheart4mj"
The day we find out MJ is "with us" and hopefully "back" I will cry with such relief and then do the happy dance of "i told you so" all over my friends who are non believers. I will show them im not crazy and shammmmmme on them.

How about: embrace them and "shamone" on them  ;) ?

I never smiled so much before like now when a "non-believer" repeats media crap to me as proof why Michael must be dead.

I will for sure say (I am human, God forgive) "I knew it and you never believed me".
I don't assume they will gather around me to hear auntie Grace's fairy tale but I hope they will join me in laughing a breaking hole in the walls around us. They already looked at me like an alien (we witnessed a green man from outer space, too, didn't we?   :mrgreen:) so I can take some more...  :lol:  :lol: I learned to laugh about nobody else more than myself since June. If that doesn't help, I don't know...  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Delia on May 06, 2010, 07:16:35 PM
Then, there will be much more to be done. I*ll be happy and relieved.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: IBelieveInMiracles on May 07, 2010, 11:05:16 AM
A lot of mixed emotions to be honest. Relieved that he is ok, ectastic that he's alive and sad that this whole adventure is over. But overall I think I'll probably be ectastic! :D
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on May 07, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
cc that is just beautiful

like bob ewing
rewind selecta

what would you do if it was announced that mike would be doing the o2 shows? then he came to the 02?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: farhatmjj on May 08, 2010, 02:38:18 AM
ahhh....... now how do i answer that?... i will cry. the moment i'd hear it i will cry as hell!i'm sure all of us will not be in a "normal" state of mind that day. i will cry and laugh at the same time. i'd faint. i will scream! i will laugh! i will cry for joy! then i will do anything, i mean anything, to fly to wherever Michael would be to see him, to touch him, to hug him. these 10 months+ however long he takes to come back, will be more than enough to drive me crazy for wanting to hug him and hold him  so tight for so long. i wouldn't mind if i die in his arms.

i will try and tell him how much i love him (that if i ever get to talk to him), i will tell him that we share the same dream that is to be happily married and have a beautiful family with wonderful children. i will ask him if he would marry me.... cause i know what he deserves.. how much love and care he deserves. and i KNOW i will give him more than that.

ok now coming back to reality, i will give a speech to my family and friends and whoever didn't believe me, called me mental, psycho and even wacko, a "prejudice is ignorance", "just because it's in print, doesn't mean it's the gospel", "innocent until proven guilty, alive until proven dead" titled speech lol.

i will feel tired, exhausted, relieved, happy, a li'l depressed as the greatest show on earth would come to an end. but as long as Michael is happy and well, i will be the happiest person in the world. Michael's well being, safety and happiness is all i ever ask for. i hope he will be showered by all the love the world could hold.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on May 08, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
Words cannot even describe it!!! I will be OVERJOYED and so happy. Absolutely elated!!!

I will cry tears of gladness and finally sigh a huge relief once it is all over and Michael is back
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: RK on May 08, 2010, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: "Tina K."
yearh, and then we can keep an eye on Jermaine, cause he's probally gonna hoax his death when Michael comes back, trying to get attention :D
Well I won't be so obsessive in finding all the answers with that one.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MissG on May 08, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
Does anybody know what this means?
http://counter.yadro.ru/ (http://counter.yadro.ru/)
Comes under page properties on that page.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: alovesmichael on May 08, 2010, 11:02:39 AM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
That is a good question but a tough one for me to answer.

I don't 100% fully know what we're looking for as we investigate the hoax. Therefore how will I  know when it's  over? It might already be over and I just haven't realized it yet.

Exactly my thoughts
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Emily Hutjes on May 09, 2010, 07:01:43 AM
OVER????

Any idea what it is going to take for this search for the truth to be over?
# if he returns, how do we know it isn't a double?
# he has so much explaining to do that he might as well make a 3 hour film and name it:"Why and how I hoaxed my death". And even that could create a new hoax!
# So many people will have so many questions.
# So many people and the press will have so much criticism and those are going to crusify him all over again. I am sure Michael knows this and is not looking forward to it!
# I don't know when and if he is going to return, but this story is not over yet. That I know for sure.
# Some say Michael never said :"See you in July 2009". But why did they sell all those tickets for the concert in July 2009?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 09, 2010, 07:25:42 AM
If MJ decided to re-emerge to public life, the world as we know it will never be the same again.

The hoax deth of Michael Jackson, would re-write all the history books.

The world will be a different place, and people will become more aware of what is really going on around us, so for this reason, it will affect not only us believers,
but will effect the whole world as we have never seen anything like this before!!

I will just be proud and delighted that I believed and never gave up hope even we things were against us.  I want to stay in touch with everyone on the forum and share out feelings.
I feel  sad that Michael Jackson had to endure so much pain and was forced to do this in the first place.

I would love to continue to show him all the love and support , and share it with you guys!
I hope that maybe we can show out faces to eachother after its all over.  That would be nice to put a face to the usernames!!!!!!!!!!!As always, with unconditional L.O.V.E  xoxoxo
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on May 09, 2010, 08:33:57 AM
for me its sorta over, dont think he made it out of the kill box, and if he had, so much time has now passed - that i cant see why he is waiting,

the feeling that why would he allow these infidels to control the most important aspects of his life in such a long absense does not make sense.

so it is over, just waiting for the trial

but the true pushes the true haters the most influential business haters will count their fiscal rewards and just look for the next deal to cut

question i find more interesting is what will it take for you to believe its over.  yes the obvious mike - appearing - then yes  of course. but otherwise?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Grace on May 09, 2010, 12:33:42 PM
I look at it this way: before concluding any outcome, I have to go through the structure of an investigation and respective checklists. The amount of "yes" / "no" answers will give some direction of what could be possibly a description of the "case".

Which are:
1) the motivation
2) the overall goal
3) the objectives (measurable)
4) the measures leading to the results
5) the opportunities to execute the measures
6) potential helpers

Let's start with the motivation for a kill box scenario:

- money related: do you kill the golden cow you are milking? not likely.
A cow goes only to the butcher when it does not give any milk anymore and is only eating hay thus producing cost and no profit. This you do to a cow that has no voice.
Doing that to MJ would mean he had no voice and was one amongst others. Was this the case?
So death IMO is only an option if the $$$ following the death will be more than continuing alive. This is an investor's view (they have overtaken music business as well and MJ was no case for a bad bank): capital rent in the long run must justify short-time investments. Which means when one gives one dollar to finance a show, film, performance, art project, he expects two in return. Did that happen? I don't have the exact figures but yes, the death option was likely more successful in turnover and profit than the alive option, to date.

How does the death option pay off in the long run?
You keep a fog of "maybe, maybe not" as major marketing route in order to keep folks emotionally hooked (I would say to keep them abused but that's not a valid or important argument to marketing strategists). So marketing may at every second determine what folks are doing (in other words buying thus increasing the $$$).
Announcement of unreleased material of a dead one? All will be running to get some copy.
Announcement of return of a dead one? Some may turn away saying "I was fooled" and would feel / claim having been emotionally abused thus reducing financial and reputational success of the overall strategy. Some may not afford the tickets.
Some may lose interest as "the case" is solved etc. Some may rush to get the tickets. Some may (now) say: you never know who is on stage, if it's the real deal. Some would run there exactly driven by the doubt and try to find out during concert whether the man is really the man (remember Barnums "What is it?" exhibition).
In any case there would be uproar throughout the world if the "dead" would return on stage.
For the better, for the worse?

- not money related: I have not seen any aspect of MJ's life not being related to money when it comes to people around MJ. MJ himself would be the only person IMHO who could have had also a non-money-related motivation to chose the kill box (hoax his death). This could have been a spiritual reason (religion), an ethical reason (dangers of today's society), a family related reason (general - heart doctor /family doctor theme, personal - sharing the last years with his mom e.g.), an environmental concern (Amazon theme) or another motivation like V for Vendetta e.g..

Detailing the motivation one could go on with "MJ's personal motivation / MJ's business related motivation / entourage motivation / entourage business related motivation" and other specifics. All other parts of an investigation structure may follow.

Some interesting stuff on structure of investigations is to be found here:
http://law.jrank.org/pages/1654/Police-Criminal-Investigations-Criminal-investigation-defined.html
http://law.jrank.org/pages/1655/Police-Criminal-Investigations-structure-criminal-investigations.html
http://law.jrank.org/pages/1656/Police-Criminal-Investigations-Sources-information-evidence-in-criminal-investigations.html
etc.

My personal conclusion after these months is that the kill box was playing a major part in the story but that MJ did turn the chess table around redefining the rules following his intentions.
I do not see any need for MJ to come back and certainly not soon as the seeds are just growing small plants. He needs strong trees though.

I still recommend a good soda, popcorn and a cosy sofa, well tied ropes and a safety jacket during the trial. We will continue to see mud fights and more and more lies.
I just personally hope the kids will not be called in to testify.

Will the hoax be over with the sentence? I don't know, to be honest.
There's much more to expose, there's endless subjects to get our hands and attention on.
And if MJ's motivation had to do with exposure, there cannot be a final point of "game over".
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on May 09, 2010, 12:38:56 PM
yes you could kill the golden goose  cow or what ever if that goose cow did not do what you said and you could earn money regardless of them being alive - pp get murdered for less

i dont think this is murder in the strict sense i think this started long ago - it just got worse - till a predictable outcome - think that is way the jackson family are a bit distanced from the whole experience

dont think this is a marketing campaign mike knew his worth - god one man who knew it when you watch footage of him in neverland - when he is just talking you can see he was the whole package - humble but he knew - he was great and he did not disappoint. he did not need to big himself up by faking his death have you seen the awards he had
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: the arabian nights on May 09, 2010, 12:43:16 PM
the kill box does not relate to hoaxing death - it relates to be in a position where you are going to get killed - army positioning  - gult war - thing

you are an open target
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Grace on May 09, 2010, 01:13:48 PM
OK, one last remark on the off-topic kill box:
MJ was in the eye for some when he started his success.
He was without any doubt a target for all kinds of interests.

As to greed, there is one main characteristic: greed never stops and knows no borders nor shame.
Consequently a greedy entourage and responsible business partners having $$$ in their eyes will go for more $$$ without any respect or final "it's enough now".
We are all witnessing this these days in banking, finance, politics, corruption, lobbyism, "journalism" (or should we say information management) etc. and this borderlessness is impacting our live on many levels and in many realities.

Most of us are no-names having no voice as an individual and therefore nobody cares if a brave father will lose job, house and shelter for his family due to investor's greedy speculations.

MJ has a voice. He was silenced twice. But he never stopped having a voice.
The only difference in between the TII preparations and former performances to me is that he might have been treated as a pure investment object and not as an artist as the generations of music business managers and their attitudes have changed.
This in addition may have prompted him to finally say "No" to the $$$ vultures.
This is all my vivid imagination of a very strong character defending justice, his personal honor and reputation.
MJ achieved the $$$ goal with the least effort but by paying a very high price.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on May 12, 2010, 03:22:52 PM
I agree,Grace. But what exactly was the price? His own life? His mega-stardom? His safety (in hiding)?

What about his freedom? Well deserved - but also gained? His health ....

And what about ... his percepectives?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it'll be over?
Post by: Grace on February 27, 2011, 01:40:59 PM
Bumping this up again one year later - how will you feel now when it'll be over?

I will be missing the family here for sure. I will miss the steelheaded and the warmhearted, the fulltime investigators and the lurkers, the longtime fellows and the newbies - you guys!
I will be missing the discussions whether this or that were an indication of a clue or a fact or an illusion or a time warp. I will be missing the back and forth defense of standpoints and the agreement on disagreement. I will be missing how we continued steadily despite so many attempts to divert our attention, separate our intentions and put our fundamentals on a pair of gold scales.

I would for sure love to know from Michael how he'll be feeling after all, whether he had a great sabbatical or not, what he did, what he liked, what he disliked, what astonished him, what came unexpected, what he learned from us, what he valued the most.
I have no idea if he would be willing to let us know but I'd love to know how he lived that time.
Was he satisfied with the results? Was he happy? Puzzled? Hectic? Finding a rest? Finding his peace after all? Finding a clearer view on friends and foes and pharisees?
I guess he laughed his socks off many, many times. (And sure will continue to...)

So this goes to everyone out there, also to you, Michael:
how will you feel when it'll be over? I am curious to know.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: trustno1 on February 27, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
I'll feel blessed, exhilarated and thankful that I was a part of this journey and that I have been a part of this fantastic forum family, I too will miss all you guys so much but I'll also be relieved that he's back with us officially.  I'll try not to say I told you so, much as I'd like to!  When he "died" and before I figured out he hadn't actually gone I was so grief-stricken and it felt like a huge light had gone out in the world.  The world without MJ just didn't seem real, and I'm glad I followed my instincts and stayed aware and always had that "this is MJ we're talking about, of course it could be a hoax" feeling. ;) As long as he's okay I'll just feel thankful and at peace, no matter what comes next.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MissG on February 27, 2011, 02:17:58 PM
I just hope I don´t grow out of my "I TOLD YOU" t-shirt  :lol:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Loes on February 27, 2011, 02:31:49 PM
I would feel great en releaved when he's back, but I also would miss searching and reading about all the clues and other interesting things here.

I think and hope this family will stay together also when he's back.
We can share all the news about everything he has to say and the reactions from the press and the people to his being alive and the hoax.

Lot's more to discuss IMO ...  ;)

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Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: mumof3 on February 27, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
I will feel relieved  that everything is ok  and then I will sit down and learn from the reason why this was done as it will be so important
One thing I know my life will never be the same from before 25 th  my life has changed now I have learnt so much  which has been good
I hope and pray we all have a happy ever after x
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: lilwendy on February 27, 2011, 03:05:08 PM
This is a great question!

I don't think much will change for me (other than redirecting the time I spent on this site!) LOL  Just kidding.  

I think if I could summarize one main word of how I will feel, it's VALIDATED.

I imagine I will deal first with all the people I have told about my beliefs that MJ is alive and maybe now they will listen more, maybe not.  However, I will be available to share the testimony of my last two years. :-)

I am also preparing the people around me in my life telling them that if I need to uproot my life for a cause, drop everything in my life to stand for something, that I would.  I am praying feverishly lately for God's guidance because I don't know what the future holds but I have learned through this hoax that you must be willing to do anything for God and for the love of our fellow human beings.

Another word is SCARED.  This is scary for me, but I'm ready, because God will make me ready.  But I like knowing where I'm going but I guess that's what trusting in God is and having child-like faith. :-)

Another word is RESOLVED.  This being over just means freeing up more time to move forward to make a real difference in this world.  All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.  I am determined on doing something.  This will be for the rest of my life and I have already passed this legacy on to my children.

I showed my kids what the Jackson kids are doing to validate what my kids are doing now.  Helping others in whatever way we can.  I was so proud that my kids yesterday at 10pm at night when all they were getting ready to go to bed, saw our neighbour shovel the freshly fallen snow from his driveway and BEGGED me to allow them to go out and help.  That's what its about, acts of kindness.

Ok, so this is where I get a lump in my throat and my eyes well up with tears... tears of joy.  That God loved me so much to inspire MJ to play this role in His overall plan for this world.  That MJ would love God and us fans and the people around him so much that he would make such sacrifice... because it is, it's a sacrifice.  That the people on this board, Twitter, and other social networks have extended love to me at various times... be it through moments of insanity, through feedback on my blog, through confiding in me some of their issues, through asking me questions about God, through comforting me when sick, so many times my MJHoaxFam has been there for me.  So, lastly, I will feel LOVED.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: happythoughts on February 27, 2011, 04:01:41 PM
Honestly, I don't think I'll feel anything. I already know that he is alive, that's enough for me. I would be happy if he came back but chances are I'm never going to meet him anyway so him coming back or staying in hiding doesn't effect me. I'm afraid that we're jumping the gun here a bit, you can't assume to know 100% that he's coming back anyway. :?
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: fordtocarr on February 27, 2011, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: "JACKSONGIRL"
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
OMG great topic I always wanted to know how everyone would react :D I think Michael would wanna read topics like these to get ready lools ;) But anyway I will be relieved and jubilant to finally have him back :D I mean I will never ever let him slip away from me that fast again I just can't lools. I am praying for Michael's safe return and that he is happy and better than ever, then I might be able to get some sleep at night lools :lol: :lol: . But I might cry for a few mins then start my I told u so speech :P then dance a little :P Scream he lives then just keep posted on him all day :D :D :D Of ocurse I woul love to kepe in touch with my big Mj Family tho I love u guys forever now :D :D :D !!!!!!
Sorry for such a long post yall :P :?
All i know is if he pops up somewhere and suddenly it's headline news that hes alive and its REAL, i;m getting my MJ gear out and throwing an MJ theme party :D everyone can come as their fav MJ  moment, thriller BOW , TWYMMF, SC, i don't care :D

Where are you, cuz I'd love to come to it!!!
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: fordtocarr on February 27, 2011, 05:01:20 PM
Dear Michael,
When you come back, you seriously need to have a meet and greet for us long suffers in your escapade.  We need closure to it and to all be together as your FANily.  We are your army, your brother, your sister, your lover and friend.  We are your heart and we NEED YOU.  When you come home, come home to US and take us to your arms and let us rest in your love and safeness :)
Love eternally to you Michael,
Your FANily


HOW will "I" feel?  Like then, more than ever, I need Michael.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: fordtocarr on February 27, 2011, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
I will feel revealed and tired and happy that i can free myself from the never ending questions.
Happy that MJ is still here with us.

Then i will book myself onto the first flight to wherever he is...  in the hope i can give him that hug i have wanted to give him for so long now.

OMG...if you are close to me....I'll go with you!!!  HONESTLY
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: fordtocarr on February 27, 2011, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
if any other celeb wants to hoax their death - well they can do so without me blogging - i think i will just say ok - if thats what they want - i will accept it

im suckered into this now - but never again

 ;)  me too... i´m tired but happy because i have a lot new friends around the world!!! maybe we can stay here talking about funny things... laughing, not with this feeling we have now:uncertainty!  :)

the other night i dream that i was watching the news and they´re talking about MJ Hoax and that he is alive and all that and I start to call my friends and family saying "I told you so..." I felt great when woke up!  i never remember my dreams but this... I REMEMBER BECAUSE I FELT SO GOOD!!! :D

oooh, I had a dream too....Michael was giving me a nice sweet KISS!!!  I woke with that on my mind... I don't think I'll tell my husband that!!! lol, he'll think I've really lost it!
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 27, 2011, 06:10:51 PM
I can’t even answer this question.  when it’s over? It will never be over until I see his face.  When I do, I can’t imagine what my reaction will be.  However, that party sounds like a really, really good idea because I know for sure that I would not be able to work or concentrate on anything else for awhile. God, I hope it will be soon. Can I get an invite too :|
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: suspicious mind on February 27, 2011, 07:26:50 PM
probably like this: :lol:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: lynnandsofee on February 27, 2011, 10:46:43 PM
I watched the jackson's, an american dream today,(it was on tv again).  I was very emotional watching what Michael went through all his life, and how sad he always seemed to be.  The feelings of sadness for him will just not leave me, and I wish I could understand all of this.  I was not a fan, but did love his music.  When I see him, or hear him, this feeling of sadness and hopelessness comes over me, but why?  I want to believe with all my heart and soul that he is still alive, but I just don't know anymore.  I think for me the title of this thread says it all.  Maybe it is over....for Michael and us.  God, I hope not.  I pray everynight to just let me know the truth.  I say, please send him to me, one way or another.  If he is with you Lord, please just let me know, but nothing, never nothing.  Willie, who played this part, was in my opinion the closest anyone ever got to duplicating Michael.  His moves were exact.  It was a real shame that he passed away, because he certainly would have been the perfect Michael Jackson.  I know someone here visits Willie, and I have the utmost respect for her. That is a very caring and compassionate person.  Truly, if Michael did survive all of this, God let him go in  peace, and if he decides to ever come back I will travel to the end of this earth to just see him, and my heart can finally rest.  I have developed a very loving and respect for Michael, and maybe just one day I will have the privledge of graceing his presence, whether its here or that big "moonwalk" in the heavens.  Either way, I will be happy.  Love, Lynn
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MissG on February 28, 2011, 07:55:52 AM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
probably like this: :lol:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:  :lol:  :cry:


 :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: trustno1 on February 28, 2011, 11:11:39 AM
Oh another thing I forgot to mention, I'll feel like I need glasses from staring so hard at the damn ambulance photo!! ;) Not that I mind MJ!
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: RK on February 28, 2011, 12:02:28 PM
I have vague recollections of a former life.  Of lazy days in the garden and getting caught up in the adventure of a good book.  I think it will be healthy and enjoyable to have a slightly more balanced life again. But I'm sure gonna miss the adrenalin rush of the roller coaster hoax ride.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Do on February 28, 2011, 12:28:06 PM
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Dear Michael,
When you come back, you seriously need to have a meet and greet for us long suffers in your escapade.  We need closure to it and to all be together as your FANily.  We are your army, your brother, your sister, your lover and friend.  We are your heart and we NEED YOU.  When you come home, come home to US and take us to your arms and let us rest in your love and safeness :)
Love eternally to you Michael,
Your FANily


HOW will "I" feel?  Like then, more than ever, I need Michael.

Oh my, fordtocarr, that will be the perfect ending of this ride and hopefully the kick off of a new adventure, TOGETHER with Michael this time! It will be a dream come true! If he only knew how much this would meant to us! I'm sure that we would be all good and trusted friends to him.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: AnaMarcia on February 28, 2011, 12:57:07 PM
The big question is: will Michael end his career, or we may even see him?
I do not think he will do tours, but I still hope to see you writing clips, releasing records and making some appearances.
Anyway I'll be very happy and relieved that he is alive and well, but do not want to end this forum, it is very good to exchange ideas with people from another continent and across the world. This is priceless.
Hopefully our little corner here is to keep talking about Michael!
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: liegi on February 28, 2011, 01:03:33 PM
I will always give Michael my support. I just took it granted he would always be there.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: backstager on February 28, 2011, 03:04:14 PM
Relieved! Unconsious! But relieved all the while, lol. I know for a fact that if Michael comes back I'm going to pass out. And then when I gain consciousness I will probably cry all day. But I will definitely miss coming here. I hope that this forum is still up and running..
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MJonmind on February 28, 2011, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: "RK"
I have vague recollections of a former life.  Of lazy days in the garden and getting caught up in the adventure of a good book.  I think it will be healthy and enjoyable to have a slightly more balanced life again. But I'm sure gonna miss the adrenalin rush of the roller coaster hoax ride.
So true. :lol: I do pretty much all the things I did before that June 25, but now just as quickly as possible  :D so I can get back here. If my internet is down for a day, I'm upset :evil: , but end up getting some things done which I'm glad about and so is my family. For 20 months I've enjoyed this sweet roller-coaster with all of you. It's been like a 20 month adrenaline rush or high.

When it's over, hmm...  I will feel happy he's showing himself alive to the world. Sad that this adventure is over. I'd love to be able to see him in person, not necessarily a concert, but whatever he chooses is fine. I had not ever attended anything of his before, just didn't know I'd be so consumed with him in the future. :oops: I'm not even sure it's really going to ever be over, since we don't even know what crazy things MJ has in mind. We only assume we know. Just one BAM explosion and then nothing. IMO not MJ, he says he never stops working, creating and he loves doing it--not like it's a job he wants retirement from. It's the touring, stage performances, rabid fans, media attacks and all that, that MJ wants to get away from. It's going to be a Michael Jackson paradyme shift of the planet. 8-) Change his quote to Bashir of, "I don't ever want to be buried, I want to live forever," to "I don't ever want to be retired, I want to create forever". He says, "You should give over and over and over again." Although this hoax must have been exhausting for him and he'll need a good long holiday.  Wow I love that guy! Just some random thoughts, sorry for rambling.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: AgentBJ on March 01, 2011, 04:29:46 PM
I'll feel way better than now. This hoax is getting on my weak nerves. :(
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on March 01, 2011, 04:37:39 PM
It depends on how this hoax will end...if it will end...if we will ever get to know the truth...BUT no matter what i still have my love/respect for MJ for the rest of my life.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on March 20, 2011, 08:41:52 AM
If and when Michael’s return has succeeded the way he wanted and that he’s safe and happy, I’ll be happy and relieved. I’d deeply wish to be personally assured that Michael is truly okay, I’d like to see it in his eyes personally, not on tabloid pictures.
I’d feel sooo happy that it’ll fade the feeling that I’m gonna miss you all, my forum family. This forum is like a roller coaster, with some slow rides where nothing happens, yet still moving on, some stops where I could step out and take some distance and some fast and exciting rides with interesting developments and opinions. To compensate this “forum” roller coaster I’ll go to a theme park and take fast roller coaster rides all day long, wow! :D  (I don’t wanna think how I’ll feel :mrgreen:  and look :shock:  afterwards). Not just to compensate, but also to celebrate Michael’s return. The entire family is welcome to join me of course.

I hope the forum won’t disappear. There’ll be a sorta sequel, which will need a name change and a new mission or goal, e.g. instead of investigate the hoax change it in evaluate the hoax and educate the media, yet the army of L.O.V.E. will be maintained. After Michael’s return I’d imagine there’ll be topics like his movie productions, documentaries, books, the Immortal Tour and more interesting developments as an evaluation. The media circus and their inevitably eager vultures will be the focus in the forum. Interesting is to study the media’s behaviour and if necessary we can unite our forces to report bad journalism and to send complaint letters, like we did in forum viewforum.php?f=119&sid=2c6757dae595af6ae36696c4ab159db6, i.e. Kelvin McKenzie and Julie Burchill.

Just some thoughts I wanted to share with you.

L.O.V.E. to y'all
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: PureLove on March 20, 2011, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Dear Michael,
When you come back, you seriously need to have a meet and greet for us long suffers in your escapade.  We need closure to it and to all be together as your FANily.  We are your army, your brother, your sister, your lover and friend.  We are your heart and we NEED YOU.  When you come home, come home to US and take us to your arms and let us rest in your love and safeness :)
Love eternally to you Michael,
Your FANily


HOW will "I" feel?  Like then, more than ever, I need Michael.

AMEN sis!
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on March 20, 2011, 03:04:17 PM
@Grace

Great thread btw
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 20, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
When I read this question it just hit me...he will REALLY come back...it's a reality...but I really have no idea how I will feel...I will have to come back and answer that one...but I'm sure it will be like a fairytale ending to see him back with his kids.
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on March 22, 2011, 05:04:11 PM
I sometimes think that it will be over only when i loose my interest...cause the thing is that it will never be over...it will all be a mystery.. :cry:
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on March 22, 2011, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
I sometimes think that it will be over only when i loose my interest...cause the thing is that it will never be over...it will all be a mystery.. :cry:

I'm sure it will be over soon...don't worry.
Keep your head up.  :)
Title: Re: How will you feel when it's over?
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on March 23, 2011, 06:23:43 PM
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
I sometimes think that it will be over only when i loose my interest...cause the thing is that it will never be over...it will all be a mystery.. :cry:

I'm sure it will be over soon...don't worry.
Keep your head up.  :)
Sometimes i fall into the "fade" mood....i feel blank ...and sometimes i think Michael is really dead..and he left "clues" behind to prove that he's alive so that his name lives on and his children's future($) will be safe...you know ? like a heritage.. :(
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