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Title: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: kingofmystery on February 24, 2010, 03:14:01 PM
Clue or Coincidence?  You Decide.  Read on...   ;)

Yet Another Michael Jackson Creditor's Claim
Posted Feb 24th 2010 12:00PM by TMZ Staff
Filed By: Van F. Alexander

Reason: Claims he was hired as Michael Jackson's "Media and Communications Consultant" for $10,000 a month, and wasn't paid from January to July of 2008.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/24/michael-j ... /#comments (http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/24/michael-jackson-creditors-claim-estate-van-alexander/#comments)#ixzz0gUPRR4q6

Here's what's interesting:  I could not find any information about Van F. Alexander Communications, BUT instead there is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Alexander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Alexander)

Van Alexander (né Alexander Van Vliet Feldman, b. May 2, 1915) is an American bandleader, arranger, and composer.

Alexander led bands and arranged from high school, and studied composition in college. He landed a job selling arrangements to Chick Webb in the middle of the 1930s. One of these, "A-Tisket, A-Tasket", became a hit for Webb and Ella Fitzgerald, and subsequently became one of her signature tunes. Alexander later arranged other nursery rhymes for jazz performance, such as "Where, Oh Where Has My Little Dog Gone?" and "Got a Pebble in My Shoe".

In the late 1930s he formed his own band and played theaters into the 1940s. Later in the 1940s, he was hired by Bing Crosby to work in Hollywood, and worked extensively as a composer, arranger, and conductor for film scores.

Reminds me of this:
TV and film composer and conductor David Michael Frank may have been one of the last persons to collaborate with Michael Jackson on an artistic project. The pop singer’s untimely death left that project in an uncertain state. Initial reports suggested that Jackson planned to do an album of “classical music” he had written; the pieces were to be orchestrated by Frank. Actually, Frank says, the pieces were closer to film music and would have gone into an all-instrumental album had Jackson lived. The Baltimore-born Frank, interviewed by phone in California, gives an account here of his experience with the King of Pop...
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/enterta ... tal_a.html (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/classicalmusic/2009/07/more_details_on_instrumental_a.html)

Coincidence?  Or clue?  ;)
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: starlight30 on February 24, 2010, 11:44:42 PM
Good research - it reminds me of the Gershwin name in the autopsy report. Next will be Bach Associates looking for money. Jan - July = 7 months. All 7's all the time.  :D
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 24, 2010, 11:51:42 PM
For sure - doesn't anyone have a common name that can't be traced back to a movie or musical person? Hmm....
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: paula-c on February 25, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
If I was also looking for something on Van Alexander F., And found nothing to read here now. 8-)
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: kingofmystery on February 25, 2010, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
For sure - doesn't anyone have a common name that can't be traced back to a movie or musical person? Hmm....

I could not find any person by this name in the communications field that came up anywhere.  Either it's a random made up name for TMZ's story or the name was chosen purposefully.  With ironic names such as "Conrad Murray", etc., I'm thinking it it's the latter.  I think I'm way passed the point of believing in coincidences. LOL.    ;)
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 25, 2010, 04:13:36 PM
All these people and companies that according to TMZ is claiming money from MJ's business.. It's crazy! :roll:
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on February 25, 2010, 05:16:46 PM
From lilwendy's Blog:

On an initial google search, all that seems to come up is reference to that TMZ article and this cached article.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:Gp ... clnk&gl=ca (http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:GpBXteMilhAJ:www.faqs.org/copyright/theme-from-the-big-operator-m-loews-inc-and-albert-zugsmith-3/+%22Van+F.+Alexander%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Run, Jessie, run
Type of Work: Musical work
Registration Number / Date: PAu000570495 / 1983-12-12
Date of Creation: 1983
Title: Run, Jessie, run / by Van F. Alexander.
Description: 2 p.
Number of similar titles: 5
Similar Title: Run, Jessie, run
Copyright Claimant: Van F. Alexander
Notes: Song lyrics.
Names: Van F. Alexander
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/investigation/

So I looked a little further:
There is a related copyright article to this one by the same composer: Win, Jesse, win


Type of Work: Musical work
Registration Number / Date: PAu000616403 / 1984-05-18
Date of Creation: 1983
Title:Win, Jesse, win / words by Van Alexander ; word & music Richard Alexander ; music by Philip Ashley.
Description: 1 sound cassette + 1 lead sheet (4 p.)
Other Title: Run, Jesse, run
Copyright Claimant: Richard Alexander
Notes: Additional title on copy: Run, Jesse, run.
Authorship on Application: Van Alexander F., Richard Alexander B. & Phillup Ashley Budhos. (pseuds.)
Names: pseud. Van Alexander F
pseud. Richard Alexander B
pseud. Phillup Ashley Budhos
pseud. Van Alexander
pseud. Richard Alexander
pseud. Philip Ashley
http://www.faqs.org/copyright/im-wishing-you-a-very-merry-christmas-words-and-music-by/

These seem to be related to Jesse Jackson’s presidential campaign in 1984. They were slogans used as part of his campaign.

Now these many years later as I listened to Jesse Jackson speak I am again reminded of how much better off we would all be had he been our President.  “Run, Jesse, Run” was more than a slogan in the 1980’s.  If was a real piece of hope in American politics.  Wednesday night for an hour some of us recalled what hope felt like again.
http://dekerivers.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/jesse-jackson-speaks-with-passion-in-madison-at-the-capital-times-birthday-party/

pseud
n
Informal a false, artificial, or pretentious person
adj
another word for pseudo

pseudo- or pseud
pref.
1. False; deceptive; sham
2. Apparently similar
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pseudo

So it appears that maybe this "Van F. Alexander" doesn't exist!
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: GirlSaturday on February 25, 2010, 05:27:08 PM
Run, Jessie, run
Type of Work: Musical work
Registration Number / Date: PAu000570495 / 1983-12-12
Date of Creation: 1983
Title: Run, Jessie, run / by Van F. Alexander.
Description: 2 p.
Number of similar titles: 5
Similar Title: Run, Jessie, run
Copyright Claimant: Van F. Alexander
Notes: Song lyrics.
Names: Van F. Alexander

Ironically, Run Jesse Run was the campaign chant  that was used when Rev Jesse Jackson ran for President in 1984.

Does anyone else wonder why these claims never surfaced before June 25, 2009? If they were legit, wouldn't it have made more sense to run to the media and expose the celebrity who was trying to stiff you?
Title: Re: Van F. Alexander Creditor's Claim: Clue or coincidence?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on February 26, 2010, 12:37:37 PM
Okay I just looked up the probate court filings on the case.
Go here Superior Court Of California County of Los Angeles: http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/probate/ (http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/probate/)  Click Case Summary on the left, scroll to the bottom and put the Case Number: BP117321 in the the box on the bottom of the page.

Case Summary - Parties
ALEXANDER VAN - Claimant

Now click on documents filed and Alexander Van's is the latest but check out the date on it...

Documents Filed
02/23/2020 Creditor's Claim ($70,000.00 )
Filed by Claimant

This seems very odd!
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