Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

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Title: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: bec on February 21, 2010, 02:50:40 PM
If you haven't rewatched the full version of Thriller in awhile you owe it to yourself to see it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izS67QTVAjk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izS67QTVAjk) sorry about the ad, with everything getting pulled, it's the only way to view it on YouTube.

Let's break down Thriller again shall we? Thriller is a short film in  which the viewer first sees a movie, in which Michael is a nice guy who turns into a monster before his sweetheart's eyes. She is terrified at the transformation and flees but to no avail. She becomes trapped and the monster is about to close in. Cut. Suddenly the viewer realises it was all just a movie. Michael is not a monster, he's just a guy.

2nd part of Thriller plays much the same. Michael is a nice guy who cheers up his sweetheart who was spooked by what she saw on the screen by singing and dancing for her. But, suddenly, just when you thought it was all just a movie, it starts again. Michael suddenly transforms into a monster again. Sweetheart is totally freaked now because she's convinced it is real and flees. She is persued by the monster and becomes trapped, culminating into the final scene when she suddenly wakes up and there's Michael.... sweet and innocent, regular guy.... or is he.

"I can thrill you more then any ghost would ever dare try...
I'll save you from the terror on the screen, I'll make you see..."

So.

Thriller was touted as Michael Jackson's greatest achievement, with all future projects and music compared by the critics back to it, as the benchmark for his success. Since 2008 Michael has been talking about remaking Thriller, with buzz about releasing it as a 3D movie, the 25th anniversary album rerelease, the snippet in TII, which was totally lame btw. All this hype over Thriller II, the coincidence with the intitials, TII=This Is It/Thriller II... and the LAME little 3D bit included in TII? Admit it, that was lame and short and a total let down... and the dvd didn't include any more of it at all.

Refer back to this article from March 5th, 2009: http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/03/n ... -that.html (http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/03/new-3d-thriller-coming-make-that.html)
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Thursday, March 05, 2009
New 3D Thriller Coming... Make That Michael Jackson's "Thriller"?
Jim here. Apparently the BBC got Randy Phillips, CEO of AEG Live, stating that after Michael Jackson gives his 10 live performances in London (announced today), he may very well be making a 3D movie based on THRILLER, his award winning music video of 1983.

I can't imagine what they have planned for it. Sure the video in it's day was entertaining but I don't know about having Jackson in the lead. His worldwide fans almost assure it would be a gigantic hit however. So money talks.

Horror musical? Anybody's guess. I know one thing - it won't be the same without Vincent Price's voice.

and then this article released just after 6-25-09:
http://www.spin.com/articles/michael-ja ... d-business (http://www.spin.com/articles/michael-jackson-unfinished-business)
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It seems that Jackson had recently wrapped work on an elaborate 3-D video project in his final weeks.

The production, titled the "Dome Project," was planned as a visual component of his 50-date concert residency at London's O2 Arena.

Vince Pace, whose company provided cameras for the 3-D production described it to the Associated Press as "a groundbreaking effort" that would have resulted in the audience's perception that "they were visiting the 'Thriller' experience, like they were there." He added, "To think that Michael's gone now, that's probably the last documented footage of him to be shot in that manner."

Mmmhmm, kay. Ask yourself. Did you see Michael in that "Thriller" 3D movie they showed in This Is It? Did you feel like you were "really there"? Yeah right. What we saw in This Is It, I speculate, was NOT Thriller II.

It's playing NOW.

For example, let's start at the beginning. 6-25-09. Michael's entire mansion is under survellience camera, CCTV system. Mysteriously, the footage that captured the bedroom where Michael "collapsed" (one report) or "was found not breathing on the bed" (other report), as well as the grounds and other areas of the house is GONE. Harddrive erased or cameras strategically turned off for the event and then turned back on later), footage gone, *poof*, very mysterious. Right? Right.

Next we have the live TV stream, showing the hospital, and the helicopter transporting the "body" to the coronor's van. Yeah ok, body sits up, body gets dumped on van floor, helicopter guys take the back board out and return it to heicopter, straps/no straps, etc etc. Weirdness x500000. All captured on video and slapshed across the TV and web for the world to see.

Then we have Van Video. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b8_1251194026 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9b8_1251194026)
Very interesting. Too interesting. RTL right quick releases "making of Van Video" to debunk that. Sort of. Except they screwed up some details. I digress.

Then we get burial live feed. Ok, weird, seriously. Who live feeds the beginning of a funeral (at night, mind you, also totally WEIRD) and then cuts it suddenly as soon as the guest of honor (lol) arrives? Ok, but, weirder, the fam tapes the whole thing in HD. Now that's F***ED UP. No matter how you cut it, that's just BIZARRE. There's absolutely NO explanation for why this would be. NONE. I'm sorry, you CANNOT convince me that the fam wants that event on tape forever, for what? Home movies? To show future generation of the Jackson clan? To release on HBO pay-per-view? Come ON.

Then we get TII. With all it's weirdness and innuendo and metaphores and unanswered questions and unfinished short films... and that pathetic teeny tiny bit of Thriller.... ok that sucked, sorry, but it sucked. It was like a preview. Ok, no matter, the whole thing will be on the dvd when it comes out.... NOT. Ok so where's Thriller? Huh? WHERE???

And all the while we are slowly being fed other little bits of video.... Murray is a big star. We get all sorts of stuff from him, court dates, crying in church, YouTube recording to his fans. I'm sure you don't need all those links. And don't forget about Murray's camera crew following him around.... for his reality show. Yeah. Totally f***ed up.

Not to mention LKL, the Jackson's reality show, interviews like crazy, etc etc etc.

So.

Michael is a MONSTER, he's a drug addict and a weirdo and he had this secret life... he's not the sweet regular guy, he's a MONSTER... or is he?

This Is It/Kenny Ortega:
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We’ll create a spectacular opening with pyrotechnics, and we want some sizzles and some cracks and some pops, we have our video and it’s called glimpses and flashes, and that’s where light man comes out on a gantry, floating above the stage, and he’ll just be dazzling in video information, and piece by pice by piece by piece, MJ is revealed until he jumps out, and on Michael’s command, we begin…

How do you top Thriller? You make Thriller II, and you play it out in front of a live audience in real time. 3D baby, you betcha. THIS IS IT. This is Thriller II. And it's playing now....
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 21, 2010, 04:13:21 PM
That`s it!  This is it. This is Michael Jackson ... thrilling.

Similar concepts also in Moonwalker, Ghosts ...

Remember him saying (Grammy living legend award 1993):

"I came from 'Where is he' to 'Here he is again...'"

Well, ...   :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on February 21, 2010, 05:09:45 PM
Oh, GOD! i hope you Guys are right! That would be awesome!
And don't forget the Memorial!

I hope this will come out in the future as a 3 d movie, which was once a 5d movie... LOL
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 21, 2010, 05:24:02 PM
Wow!  :shock:
This is it!!

This fits with how I see it; a reality show like we never seen before and that will make the whole stand still just like june 25th.

Bec I really like your theories, they're all mindblowing-interesting!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on February 21, 2010, 05:33:21 PM
That's some very interesting points of views! It would fit!  :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: bec on February 21, 2010, 05:58:35 PM
Funny you should mention Ghosts, aintnosunshine.

In Ghosts, the mayor is trying to paint Michael as the bad guy... as a monster... and trying to turn the townsfolk against him, but the children know the truth, they know it's all for fun...

In the end, Michael "inhabits" the mayor and uses him as his puppet, forcing him to dance and act like a fool to entertain the townspeople who are at first horrified and then delighted.

Mayor=media?

Yup. Methinks.

Michael long rumored that he'd like to combine Thriller with Ghosts for a rerelease. Musings and all.

Threatened too.

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You’re fearing me, ‘cause you know I’m a beast...

The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear...

What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.

Yup.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 21, 2010, 06:04:56 PM
The lyric of Is It Scary seem relevant as well

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"Is It Scary?"

There's a ghost out in the hall
Theirs a goul beneath the bed
Now it's coming through the walls
Now it's coming down the stairs

Then there's screaming in the dark
Hear the beating of his heart
Can you feel it in the air
Ghosts be hiding everywhere

I'm gonna be
Exactly what you wanna see

It's you whose haunting me
Your warning me
To be the stranger
In your life

Am I amusing you
Or just confusing you
Am I the beast
You visualised
And if you wanna to see
Eccentrialities
I'll be grotesque
Before your eyes


Let them all materialise

Is that scary for you baby
Am I scary for you oh
Is it scary for you baby
Is it scary for you

You know the stranger is you
Is it scary for you baby

There's a creak beneath the floor
There's a creak behind the door
There's a rocking in the chair
But nobody sitting there
Their's a ghostly smell around
But nobody to be found
And a coughin' and a yawnin'
Where restless soul's spoke

I'm gonna be
Exactly what you gonna see
So did you come to me
To see your fantasies
Performed before your very eyes


A haunting ghostly treat
The foolish trickery
And spirits dancing
In the light

But if you came to see
The truth the purity
It's here inside
A lonely heart  


So let the performance start

Is that scary for you baby
Am I scary for you oh
Am I scary for you baby
Am I scary for you
So tell me is it scary for you baby
So tell me is it crazy for you baby
Am I scary for you

You know the stranger is you
Am I scary for ya

Masquerade the heart
Is the height of haunting souls
Just not what you seek of me
Can the heart reveal the proof
Like a mirror reveals the truth
See the evil one is you

Is that scary for you baby
Am I scary for you oh
Am I scary for you baby
Is it scary for you
So tell me am I scary for you baby
Am I scary for ya baby
Is is scary for ya baby
Am I scary for you
(I don't wanna talk about it)

Am I scary for you baby
Am I scary for you
I'm tired of being abused
You know you're scaring me too
I see the evil is you
Is it scary for you baby
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 21, 2010, 06:23:52 PM
God forgive me if Michael is really gone. I can't quit laughing over this. Bec - I love where your mind is at. Thanks.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: King_Michael on February 21, 2010, 06:40:15 PM
Maybe he will get his message out through a film it could be called thriller2 lol, well it could recap the whole hoax from his point of view and how easy it was to fool the media proving that there dumb, and then it gets in to the real issues if he really wants to expose the illuminati and all those corrupted people in the world NOW THAT IS HISTORY :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 21, 2010, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
Maybe he will get his message out through a film it could be called thriller2 lol, well it could recap the whole hoax from his point of view and how easy it was to fool the media proving that there dumb, and then it gets in to the real issues if he really wants to expose the illuminati and all those corrupted people in the world NOW THAT IS HISTORY :D

Exactly!  :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: bec on February 21, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
Dancing Machine, you're on it with Is It Scary. But you missed this:

There's a ghastly smell around,
but no BODY to be found...

and did he say "coughin" or "COFFIN"??

I mean really the whole damn song.

20 years in the making. That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 21, 2010, 08:51:37 PM
Ah, yes, Bec, I've read about this since October, but you present it in such a fresh way, you really have your own style! I do think that this all could very well be true because Michael's creativity has no bounds, but also, one of the things I like about this hoax is that it has so many meanings and reasons, like besides this, he has a whole lot of other things, like the thread you made about Murray's purpose.. It's exciting to think of the possibilities of what he'll reveal when he returns!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: CC on February 21, 2010, 09:09:16 PM
AT THE END OF THRILLER IN TII WE HAVE THE INTRO OF TREATENED AND A PART OF GHOSTS... ;)
AND DON´T FORGET ABOUT THE MISSING LYRICS IN BILLIE JEAN: BECAUSE THE LIE BECAME THE TRUTH!
L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 21, 2010, 09:12:57 PM
my new name for MJ is ROCKSTAR  8-)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: bec on February 21, 2010, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: "CC"
AT THE END OF THRILLER IN TII WE HAVE THE INTRO OF TREATENED AND A PART OF GHOSTS... ;)
AND DON´T FORGET ABOUT THE MISSING LYRICS IN BILLIE JEAN: BECAUSE THE LIE BECAME THE TRUTH!
L.O.V.E.

Way ahead of you lol http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2 ... the-truth/ (http://exploringthehoax.wordpress.com/2010/02/07/cuz-the-lie-becomes-the-truth/)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Eva R on February 22, 2010, 02:18:31 AM
I hope when Mike is back he will make a movie about his hoax so people can understand why he did it.  :)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: bec on February 22, 2010, 02:29:22 AM
Me too eva.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 22, 2010, 11:50:35 AM
And I hope he makes a bow for his most ambitious hoax fans ... you`ll deserve one, bec!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson IS the Thriller.... can you dig it?
Post by: Eva R on February 22, 2010, 12:12:05 PM
Quote from: "Aintnosunshine"
And I hope he makes a bow for his most ambitious hoax fans ... you`ll deserve one, bec!
yeah exactly! the only thing I am worried about is that if he go to an award show or what ever that people will scream: boooo!
that is my biggest fear..

thats why i think he should make a film about his hoax so everyone could understand it a bit.
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