Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: juliet on February 14, 2010, 10:21:39 PM
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I would just like to post my thoughts about Dr. CM. For the Believers (ME),Michael is alive, therefore Dr.CM didn't at all kill Michael. Remember Dr.CM was hired(according to infos) by Michael to be with him everyday for the concert. EVERYDAY. Then the Death Scene came, & now the courtroom.
I think I M O that Dr.CM is there to protect Michael and all these events leading to the courtroom gave me the idea that he is buying time for Michael until Michael is safe& clear to come home.
Don't bash my opinions,, but I'm interested to hear your opinions.
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Agree, he is the "decoy" while Michael does whatever it is he is doing.
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AIRIESLADY, thank you. That made me feel good.
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your RIGHT.
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Thanks JACKSONOLOGY, now I feel 2x good about my thoughts.
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sometime I think Murray is a undercover officer is working to help bring out all the people who was threaten MJ
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Good thinking there.
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Thanks JACKSONOLOGY, now I feel 2x good about my thoughts.
no problem juliet, we go too support each other Here ;)
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thanx...i agree
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I'm sorry, but when I read things like about "Dr. Murray and others cast" like they are acting it makes me sick to my stomach because this is not acting, it is real thing. And what I want more than anything is to find out what really happened to MJ and why is so much mystery around MJ's death. I want justice for Michael, I feel so cheated that nobody in musical industry cared about MJ's well being, health, his health and reputation during the trials and list goes on. Why all media was instructed TO NOT DO TO ANY PRO-JACKSON stories? As I remember Anschutz, the owner of AEG- owns half of the media in USA, then why he did not support MJ during that time??????????
WHY NOBODY FROM MEDIA SUPPORTED MICHAEL AND WHY THEY HID THE TRUTH AND JUST BRAIN-WASHED PUBLIC IN THE WHOLE WORLD?????
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I'm sorry, but when I read things like about "Dr. Murray and others cast" like they are acting it makes me sick to my stomach because this is not acting, it is real thing. And what I want more than anything is to find out what really happened to MJ and why is so much mystery around MJ's death. I want justice for Michael, I feel so cheated that nobody in musical industry cared about MJ's well being, health, his health and reputation during the trials and list goes on. Why all media was instructed TO NOT DO TO ANY PRO-JACKSON stories? As I remember Anschutz, the owner of AEG- owns half of the media in USA, then why he did not support MJ during that time??????????
WHY NOBODY FROM MEDIA SUPPORTED MICHAEL AND WHY THEY HID THE TRUTH AND JUST BRAIN-WASHED PUBLIC IN THE WHOLE WORLD?????
What really happened too MJ? do you believe he is dead?
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I'm sorry, but when I read things like about "Dr. Murray and others cast" like they are acting it makes me sick to my stomach because this is not acting, it is real thing. And what I want more than anything is to find out what really happened to MJ and why is so much mystery around MJ's death. I want justice for Michael, I feel so cheated that nobody in musical industry cared about MJ's well being, health, his health and reputation during the trials and list goes on. Why all media was instructed TO NOT DO TO ANY PRO-JACKSON stories? As I remember Anschutz, the owner of AEG- owns half of the media in USA, then why he did not support MJ during that time??????????
WHY NOBODY FROM MEDIA SUPPORTED MICHAEL AND WHY THEY HID THE TRUTH AND JUST BRAIN-WASHED PUBLIC IN THE WHOLE WORLD?????
What really happened too MJ? do you believe he is dead?
Yeah- hope I don't come across as rude, Venus, but this is a hoax board, so why try to solve a murder here, if it's about a hoax here? Maybe you should think about joining a murder forum, because it's not really a good idea to have interfering investigations- how's anything supposed to get done?
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I'm sorry, but when I read things like about "Dr. Murray and others cast" like they are acting it makes me sick to my stomach because this is not acting, it is real thing. And what I want more than anything is to find out what really happened to MJ and why is so much mystery around MJ's death. I want justice for Michael, I feel so cheated that nobody in musical industry cared about MJ's well being, health, his health and reputation during the trials and list goes on. Why all media was instructed TO NOT DO TO ANY PRO-JACKSON stories? As I remember Anschutz, the owner of AEG- owns half of the media in USA, then why he did not support MJ during that time??????????
WHY NOBODY FROM MEDIA SUPPORTED MICHAEL AND WHY THEY HID THE TRUTH AND JUST BRAIN-WASHED PUBLIC IN THE WHOLE WORLD?????
What really happened too MJ? do you believe he is dead?
Yeah- hope I don't come across as rude, Venus, but this is a hoax board, so why try to solve a murder here, if it's about a hoax here? Maybe you should think about joining a murder forum, because it's not really a good idea to have interfering investigations- how's anything supposed to get done?
Too many members losing the Faith... :(
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Listen, i have my own opinion you like or you don't.
I also would like if this was a hoax, but things are shifting more like is a real thing. I do think 90% that MJ is gone.
I also realized how much the media STILL manipulates people like you for their own gain and you still don't see that. All that tweets and interviews with "clues" is a pile of garbage.
Michael will probably never get any justice if people like many of us are so absorbed by the idea of a hoax.
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Listen, i have my own opinion you like or you don't.
I also would like if this was a hoax, but things are shifting more like is a real thing. I do think 90% that MJ is gone.
I also realized how much the media STILL manipulates people like you for their own gain and you still don't see that. All that tweets and interviews with "clues" is a pile of garbage.
Michael will probably never get any justice if people like many of us are so absorbed by the idea of a hoax.
Hm.. If you're addressing me, I think you've forgotten that if it were like that, the majority of MJ fans would be here, not sobbing over his "death" and pushing for justice like you- we only make up like 2% of all the MJ fans in the world, come on! I really think you'd be better off helping those fans, please don't be offended by that..
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I said my own opinion. Some people are just rude in here by attacking people with different or changed opinion.
If you have to say anything with SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, please do, I would like to hear that. But WITH a proof, not a speculation.
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I'm sorry, but when I read things like about "Dr. Murray and others cast" like they are acting it makes me sick to my stomach because this is not acting, it is real thing. And what I want more than anything is to find out what really happened to MJ and why is so much mystery around MJ's death. I want justice for Michael, I feel so cheated that nobody in musical industry cared about MJ's well being, health, his health and reputation during the trials and list goes on. Why all media was instructed TO NOT DO TO ANY PRO-JACKSON stories? As I remember Anschutz, the owner of AEG- owns half of the media in USA, then why he did not support MJ during that time??????????
WHY NOBODY FROM MEDIA SUPPORTED MICHAEL AND WHY THEY HID THE TRUTH AND JUST BRAIN-WASHED PUBLIC IN THE WHOLE WORLD?????
I also sometimes feel cheated in a lot of things about all of this. I'm sorry I dont really know what you believe in, the murder theory or just a manslaughter case, but if it is the murder theory then I think you should look at "role" or "cast" hired by who ever wanted MJ dead, cuz I dnt think CM would want him dead but maybe a larger plan of some sort. So maybe we could agree on his role in all of this and not like a role in a movie. but if you believe that it was manslaughter then I understand where you are coming from and I totally respect your opinion.
We all should be open minded and listen to each other and draw our own conclusions at the end. We have a great bond, we all love MJ, and we need to stay united. We need to also look at every aspect of the situation.
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I said my own opinion. Some people are just rude in here by attacking people with different or changed opinion.
If you have to say anything with SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, please do, I would like to hear that. But WITH a proof, not a speculation.
I don't think I attacked you- I was polite, wasn't I? Do you have 100% proof it's not a hoax? You seemed to be implying that you think it's a murder/manslaughter/whatever for sure, what else was I to think? Okay.. we should both just take deep breaths and remember why we're both here- because things don't add up, and we're investigating.
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Okay.. we should both just take deep breaths and remember why we're both here- because things don't add up
;) ;) ;)
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I said my own opinion. Some people are just rude in here by attacking people with different or changed opinion.
If you have to say anything with SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, please do, I would like to hear that. But WITH a proof, not a speculation.
with all respect, maybe we dont have a SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, but let me ask u a question...do u have a SOLID proof that MJ is dead?.have u seen MJs body?..Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual.....if u think twice..u r speculating just like each of one of us...keep the faith honey!! :ugeek:
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:roll: Even my mom flat out told me that she still thought he's alive.
She said "I won't believe it 'till I see his body".
That's pretty much what keeps me going. What we haven't seen.
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:roll: Even my mom flat out told me that she still thought he's alive.
She said "I won't believe it 'till I see his body".
That's pretty much what keeps me going. What we haven't seen.
I wish I could tell my Mom everything, but she has so much stress already that I don't want her to have to worry whether "I'm crazy or not"- although we do get along really well and I have a feeling she might believe it..
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Why would anyone be a member of this forum if they don't believe there's a hoax?!? :shock: :?
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I said my own opinion. Some people are just rude in here by attacking people with different or changed opinion.
If you have to say anything with SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, please do, I would like to hear that. But WITH a proof, not a speculation.
with all respect, maybe we dont have a SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, but let me ask u a question...do u have a SOLID proof that MJ is dead?.have u seen MJs body?..Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual.....if u think twice..u r speculating just like each of one of us...keep the faith honey!! :ugeek:
Thank you for pointing that fact out about having 100% proof that he's dead. If this person feel so strong about the murder theory then support your claim. At least the people that believe in the hoax are bringing up a lot of legitimate points that lean towards a hoax. They're actually trying to investigate. There's evidence being presented. Nobody attacking you but you need to back up what you say as well instead of always getting upset at people who believe it's a hoax and calling people rude. I feel everyone on this site has open minds and are not saying that it's set in stone yet that MJ is alive for sure. Maybe just the tone of your post come across as being negative to people.
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I said my own opinion. Some people are just rude in here by attacking people with different or changed opinion.
If you have to say anything with SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, please do, I would like to hear that. But WITH a proof, not a speculation.
with all respect, maybe we dont have a SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, but let me ask u a question...do u have a SOLID proof that MJ is dead?.have u seen MJs body?..Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual.....if u think twice..u r speculating just like each of one of us...keep the faith honey!! :ugeek:
Thank you for pointing that fact out about having 100% proof that he's dead. If this person feel so strong about the murder theory then support your claim. At least the people that believe in the hoax are bringing up a lot of legitimate points that lean towards a hoax. They're actually trying to investigate. There's evidence being presented. Nobody attacking you but you need to back up what you say as well instead of always getting upset at people who believe it's a hoax and calling people rude.
Oh, don't worry, she and many others here have got tons of threads going about that, she's already brought proof in those, I don't think we should argue about this here any further, although: Why would anyone be a member of this forum if they don't believe there's a hoax?!? :shock: :?
^ That's what I wonder..
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I said my own opinion. Some people are just rude in here by attacking people with different or changed opinion.
If you have to say anything with SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, please do, I would like to hear that. But WITH a proof, not a speculation.
with all respect, maybe we dont have a SOLID proof that this is a 100% hoax, but let me ask u a question...do u have a SOLID proof that MJ is dead?.have u seen MJs body?..Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual.....if u think twice..u r speculating just like each of one of us...keep the faith honey!! :ugeek:
Thank you for pointing that fact out about having 100% proof that he's dead. If this person feel so strong about the murder theory then support your claim. At least the people that believe in the hoax are bringing up a lot of legitimate points that lean towards a hoax. They're actually trying to investigate. There's evidence being presented. Nobody attacking you but you need to back up what you say as well instead of always getting upset at people who believe it's a hoax and calling people rude.
Oh, don't worry, she and many others here have got tons of threads going about that, she's already brought proof in those, I don't think we should argue about this here any further, although: Why would anyone be a member of this forum if they don't believe there's a hoax?!? :shock: :?
^ That's what I wonder..
Yeah you're right about that. :)
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Thinking about Dr.CM sort of brought tears to my eyes because the higher ups at least care for/about him, that everything was planned, even sending Dr.CM. to be with him. I remembered Michael saying that he needs Dr.CM with him EVERYDAY, or ALL THE TIME (something to that meaning)for his TOUR. Those words ALL THE TIME & TOUR jolted me like Dr.CM is there to protect him. But of course I wasn't sure at that time(April) when the hiring of CM newsfeeds(variety) came out.
But now, I know in my heart. And the details of the why/how/what for, the real reasons Michael will be the one to explain when the right time comes. As of now, good luck to all of us Believers that we will not be thrown-off course.
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Thinking about Dr.CM sort of brought tears to my eyes because the higher ups at least care for/about him, that everything was planned, even sending Dr.CM. to be with him. I remembered Michael saying that he needs Dr.CM with him EVERYDAY, or ALL THE TIME (something to that meaning)for his TOUR. Those words ALL THE TIME & TOUR jolted me like Dr.CM is there to protect him. But of course I wasn't sure at that time(April) when the hiring of CM newsfeeds(variety) came out.
But now, I know in my heart. And the details of the why/how/what for, the real reasons Michael will be the one to explain when the right time comes. As of now, good luck to all of us Believers that we will not be thrown-off course.
Were too deep in this now, we can't back out!!!
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JACKSONOLOGY, thanks.
I know Michael is alive and that will never change. But at least he is being protected & that's very important. I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to him. He really studies the past(history/events) that makes him more wiser with the mistakes of the other people.
Michael, if you're reading this (with fingers crossed), please be safe.
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Even if Michael is still alive, I'm worried about his health.
If you're reading this, I want you to take care. Don't do anything you don't want to. :cry:
We still need you.
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I get concerned about him, too, I always pray for him.. and write to him in the Messages to Michael section.. I hope he reads them!
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And I do hope that DR.CM is really well protected for Michael's sake/safety/well-being.
Thinking out loud : I wonder what CM's agent name is? ;) ;) ;) 8-)
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I really can't understand why people seem to beleive that Mike was an ingenuous ,
naive person .
Maybe because of that sweet , innocent face that used to bring forward to us ?
I never met him in personal so I cannot claim that I know his way of thinking BUT I'm 100% sure about the fact that he was/is an extremely intelligent , sofisticated and
some times yes, even a cunning person.
After all he was a multi $$$$$$$$$ businessman !
How did he managed that ? Just by his nice voice or with his sweet black eyes ????
Or because he did the right moves at the right time ???
We know that the they wanted to get rid off him but he didn't knew it ???
He hadn't any idea about their schemes against him ( trials , molestation ....) ???
He never had any suspicions that they may try to hire someone to "take care of him "???
Please, give him some credit , people !!!
He's not a stupid , yesterday borned guy !
He IS the whole entairtenment industry of the USA !
He knows them better than anyone .
And what do people think that he was doing all those years , away from the flashes ?
Staying back and nitting baskets???
Or studying , studying , studying , their possible moves and then his own part ???
We recognize that he's a pioneer to his field , he's always many many steps ahead from the others.
Why not here ?
Why not to be many steps ahead of them ???
Why ?
...just my toughts...
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Yes, MJ was PR genious. He started to learn this PR thing from his early age. But at some point of his life it backfired at him.
Not sure if he knew what steps to take in his late years because he surrounded himself with wrong people and some friends with mafia ties and sometimes he was risking too much, for example when he was speaking his mind openly and telling as it is about Mottola.
Everybody was trying to screw him up, from his lawyers to friends that betraded him, always trying to be nice to friends, kids and many took advantage of him.
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Well, everybody can have his own opinion on the case but I don't think those who threatened Michael could create such a deliberate plan of the hoax. Yes I agree that to take money they invested into TII concerts his bosses could make a film to spread it all over the world not only because of Michael's fans but for their own profit .But I don't believe they could leave so many evidences of the hoax death (BTW it's not too simple I think,there should be a lot of people engaged ) just for Michael's fans to search for the truth on internet.
It was done on purpose by Michael himself and Dr Murray is a part of the plan.To me he wiil never be charged, they will be delaying the trial til Michael appears or til he makes a sign he's alive .
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Well, everybody can have his own opinion on the case but I don't think those who threatened Michael could create such a deliberate plan of the hoax. Yes I agree that to take money they invested into TII concerts his bosses could make a film to spread it all over the world not only because of Michael's fans but for their own profit .But I don't believe they could leave so many evidences of the hoax death (BTW it's not too simple I think,there should be a lot of people engaged ) just for Michael's fans to search for the truth on internet.
It was done on purpose by Michael himself and Dr Murray is a part of the plan.To me he wiil never be charged, they will be delaying the trial til Michael appears or til he makes a sign he's alive .
There is noooo way people from LAPD, UCLA, DA, Coroner would be involved in stuff like hoax. Its a crime to do such thing and nobody would put their reputation on line and go to jail for that.
And in case if he is under WPP, then everything would be done more quietly.
And if somehow this was a hoax, no way Mike would come out. For what he would come out-to get arrested? To make people angry? To give all the media more reasons to write about him in a nasty and mean way?
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To the original poster.... I would hope that there would be no need to bash you or anyone else for stating their opinions. I personnally believe that CM didn't kill MJ. I think it is part of a bigger plan. Michael is the one that insisted on hiring him, because he knew him. CM is part of this plan. Michael needed a way to get out. He did not like to tour. Not to mention, AEG pushed him into 50 dates instead of 10, like was originally planned and agreed on. All they saw was dollar signs when they saw how big of a demand it was to see Michael perform. I know that if he would have come to my state, I would be the first one lined up to get a ticket. That was one of my dreams, to see Michael in concert. I know I never will now... but I hope and pray that he is okay.
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DRAGONFLYLILIES, thank you.Your thoughts are my thoughts. ;)
I can't wait for April. ;) ;) ;)
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And I do hope that DR.CM is really well protected for Michael's sake/safety/well-being.
Thinking out loud : I wonder what CM's agent name is? ;) ;) ;) 8-)
my thoughts eaxactly :roll:
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Well, everybody can have his own opinion on the case but I don't think those who threatened Michael could create such a deliberate plan of the hoax. Yes I agree that to take money they invested into TII concerts his bosses could make a film to spread it all over the world not only because of Michael's fans but for their own profit .But I don't believe they could leave so many evidences of the hoax death (BTW it's not too simple I think,there should be a lot of people engaged ) just for Michael's fans to search for the truth on internet.
It was done on purpose by Michael himself and Dr Murray is a part of the plan.To me he wiil never be charged, they will be delaying the trial til Michael appears or til he makes a sign he's alive .
There is noooo way people from LAPD, UCLA, DA, Coroner would be involved in stuff like hoax. Its a crime to do such thing and nobody would put their reputation on line and go to jail for that.
And in case if he is under WPP, then everything would be done more quietly.
And if somehow this was a hoax, no way Mike would come out. For what he would come out-to get arrested? To make people angry? To give all the media more reasons to write about him in a nasty and mean way?
I think you´re not understanding the point of the hoax.... It is a crime if they falsify death records... I´m sure that is the reason why nobody sing the death certificate.... nobody of LAPD, UCLA or DA even talk about this.... the only one was Craig Harvey (btw he is listed as an actor and not listed as a chief officer)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/)
http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf)
So how can you say they are involved?? that is exactly the point.... the media can show you anything.... if I go to the media and say the pope is dead..... and nobody denies it..... then all the world would think the pope is dead....
I´m sure there are reasons why they are not denying this..... we are investigating....
I suggest you to read here all the facts about this.... and if you still think it is more probable he was murder then go to a murder forum because it will be better for you and for us..... no intention to offend.... but It will be the best...
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I think you´re not understanding the point of the hoax.... It is a crime if they falsify death records... I´m sure that is the reason why nobody sing the death certificate.... nobody of LAPD, UCLA or DA even talk about this.... the only one was Craig Harvey (btw he is listed as an actor and not listed as a chief officer)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/)
http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf)
http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla (http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla)
http://www.laweekly.com/related/to/Craig+Harvey (http://www.laweekly.com/related/to/Craig+Harvey)
http://lapd.org/2009/12/19/santa-fe-spr ... nzalez-18/ (http://lapd.org/2009/12/19/santa-fe-springs-jonathan-gonzalez-18/)
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I would just like to post my thoughts about Dr. CM. For the Believers (ME),Michael is alive, therefore Dr.CM didn't at all kill Michael. Remember Dr.CM was hired(according to infos) by Michael to be with him everyday for the concert. EVERYDAY. Then the Death Scene came, & now the courtroom.
I think I M O that Dr.CM is there to protect Michael and all these events leading to the courtroom gave me the idea that he is buying time for Michael until Michael is safe& clear to come home.
Don't bash my opinions,, but I'm interested to hear your opinions.
not bashing you, but cm said he did not get paid?
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I think you´re not understanding the point of the hoax.... It is a crime if they falsify death records... I´m sure that is the reason why nobody sing the death certificate.... nobody of LAPD, UCLA or DA even talk about this.... the only one was Craig Harvey (btw he is listed as an actor and not listed as a chief officer)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2004576/)
http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf (http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf)
http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla (http://twitter.com/Chiefcoronerla)
http://www.laweekly.com/related/to/Craig+Harvey (http://www.laweekly.com/related/to/Craig+Harvey)
http://lapd.org/2009/12/19/santa-fe-spr ... nzalez-18/ (http://lapd.org/2009/12/19/santa-fe-springs-jonathan-gonzalez-18/)
Ahhhhh very reliable..... twitter?? laweekly??? and...... the unofficial LAPD guide????
I was trying to show you some facts..... but really don´t care to argue.... think what you want... this is not a competition...
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Yes, MJ was PR genious. He started to learn this PR thing from his early age. But at some point of his life it backfired at him.
Not sure if he knew what steps to take in his late years because he surrounded himself with wrong people and some friends with mafia ties and sometimes he was risking too much, for example when he was speaking his mind openly and telling as it is about Mottola.
Everybody was trying to screw him up, from his lawyers to friends that betraded him, always trying to be nice to friends, kids and many took advantage of him.
yeap too trusting
bad move to go public on sony
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There is noooo way people from LAPD, UCLA, DA, Coroner would be involved in stuff like hoax. Its a crime to do such thing and nobody would put their reputation on line and go to jail for that.
I think it is fair to go back in history to find examples of what happened to other kings.
In many cases the real threat did not came from outside but from inside of the king's court.
Due to the fact that all habits and special features of the king's life were known most accurately by the king's court, the bad boys or bad girls would be found there in the inner circle. If they did the harm not for own personal motivation and greed, they were "purchased" by outsiders who had not direct access or in-depth knowledge of the court.
What would have been a motivation to harm the existing king?
His fortune, his possessions, his country / land / kingdom, his role being the one on top.
There were all kinds of threats and aggressions that did occur on historical kings.
They bad ones would even steal babies or take hostage of children being the future successors and replace them by other children in order to destroy the king's role.
There were cooks that would poison meals and wine - that's why kings would have "tasters".
There were poisonous snakes or spiders put into the king's bedroom.
There were attacks through poisoned medicine, combs, black magic, mercs, paid murderers during a fox hunt in the woods, in a chapel praying, even while staying in a monastery or they would imprison the king on a lonely island.
All you can imagine that could possibly happen to a king did happen to some kings.
Among those murdered kings were Umberto I, Henry III, Henry IV, Philipp of Svabia, Alexander I, Jacob I of Scotland and many more.
What I want to point out is not that MJ was murdered.
I want to get to potential motivations, means and protection requirements.
Now turning it back to the outside of the court - back to the "outer" world that did so much bad to MJ: the same principles apply.
If you want to harm from the outside, you have to get to the inside.
Either by a person of confidence or by buying a person and making them a person of "half" confidence (you may not trust them 100% except if you have material already in your pocket that the person has committed a crime before. People prone for money one time are greedy enough to do it a second time but they may not be reliable.)
I never excluded the possibility that some person(s) in official positions in the outside world may have been interested in money or committing a crime. How many persons in official jobs have been detected executing crime on their own or tolerating it while knowing about drug trade or other illegal activities, already?
Greedy and corrupt persons are potentially to be found everywhere. We have lobbyists taking advantage of politicians all the time. In fact, industry reigns government through lobbyism.
Is that not corrupt? It is.
Yes, it is possible that people of the said offices did not do their jobs impeccably as would have been expected. That could also mean that some are in the hoax.
I am not saying it was this way. It is a general thought only.
Or that we have witnessed a "so said death" that was no death but performance art and that ALL we have seen and were presented with is fake and thus the interviews based on false perception of course sounded true but - as being based on false assumptions - just were not.
Murray IMO is a helper - in which way will turn out sooner or later.
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not bashing you, but cm said he did not get paid?
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No, you're not bashing at all. Thank you. ;) ;) ;)
Actually, he couldn't have been paid as the JUNE 25 occured.And IMO, he came along for all of the events to happen. I believe in my heart that he's appearance is for the protection of Michael - Agent X - so, whatever he's supposed to do like be a Doctor for Michael, that's the only way for him to get close, very close to Michael.
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Listen, i have my own opinion you like or you don't.
I also would like if this was a hoax, but things are shifting more like is a real thing. I do think 90% that MJ is gone.
I also realized how much the media STILL manipulates people like you for their own gain and you still don't see that. All that tweets and interviews with "clues" is a pile of garbage.
Michael will probably never get any justice if people like many of us are so absorbed by the idea of a hoax.
I do believe MJ is alive. He is trying to open our eyes with the clues. He is letting us know that the media is garbage. We are on the forum because it's about LOVE and BELIEVING. MJ wants us to work together. He said at one time, "The whole should do it" This is what we are doing with the clues and tweets. We just have to put everything together. Just like the message that Dr. Murray left for his patient Ben. This is clue from MJ. He was talking about the EECP. This is new development for Heart patient to use this procedure that cost less than bypass surgery. While MJ is gone, he is still doing good things. I know the it does get hard to be patient. But hang in there. I do feel that he is using Dr. Murray to clear his name. Things have to be safe for his return. You have to remember he is counting on us to help him. What better way than clues? We are the REAL fans. We are the ones who TRULY LOVE him.
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Even If Michael is really d*** :( , I would want this forum to stay!
It's so full of LOVE and it keeps his message alive.
Now I'm not really sure of what to think about this Murray guy. I get a weird vibe from him, and I'm going to trust it this time. Something's not right with him.
My opinions:
-If Michael is alive, Murray seems to be a distraction. Everyone is blinded with rage and confusion when it comes to him, and nobody is really paying attention to what's going on in the background.
-If Michael is really gone, we have nothing left to do is grieve, and find FAIR, NON-VIOLENT, UN-BIASED justice. I know that would be extremely hard to get, but one can only hope.