Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: mjj4ever777 on February 14, 2010, 06:22:19 PM

Title: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: mjj4ever777 on February 14, 2010, 06:22:19 PM
Check out this new video and tell me what you make of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJwb-94qZY8
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: mumof3 on February 14, 2010, 06:40:07 PM
very clever
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 14, 2010, 07:11:55 PM
Disturbing. IMO this guy is bad news and his vids give me the creeps. Manipulative, claiming to give truths but only making weird videos that doesn't answer anything. He is manipulating people by making them think he is someone he's not, and sadly people buy it and follow him blindly. At least he doesn't seem to have access to his twitter account anymore.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 14, 2010, 07:13:34 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Disturbing. IMO this guy is bad news and his vids give me the creeps. Manipulative, claiming to give truths but only making weird videos that doesn't answer anything. He is manipulating people by making them think he is someone he's not, and sadly people buy it and follow him blindly. At least he doesn't seem to have access to his twitter account anymore.

That's good enough for me.  I won't even click on the link. Thanks Souza.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: Loes on February 14, 2010, 07:24:40 PM
I just don't understand the video anyway ...  :D

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: susie_23 on February 14, 2010, 07:45:55 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Disturbing. IMO this guy is bad news and his vids give me the creeps. Manipulative, claiming to give truths but only making weird videos that doesn't answer anything. He is manipulating people by making them think he is someone he's not, and sadly people buy it and follow him blindly. At least he doesn't seem to have access to his twitter account anymore.

That's good enough for me.  I won't even click on the link. Thanks Souza.

Seriously? Think for yourself, man! Watch the video if your curiosity is piqued.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 14, 2010, 07:52:12 PM
Quote from: "susie_23"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Disturbing. IMO this guy is bad news and his vids give me the creeps. Manipulative, claiming to give truths but only making weird videos that doesn't answer anything. He is manipulating people by making them think he is someone he's not, and sadly people buy it and follow him blindly. At least he doesn't seem to have access to his twitter account anymore.

That's good enough for me.  I won't even click on the link. Thanks Souza.

Seriously? Think for yourself, man! Watch the video if your curiosity is piqued.

My curiousity is not piqued and I do think for myself. That is why I'm not interested. My opinions have been the same as Souza and Mo's much of the time and if someone else can "pique" my interest by something they say, maybe I'll take a look at that time. Thank you for your concern.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ER911 on February 14, 2010, 08:10:51 PM
I found the video to be quite creative. They state to make our own evaluation:) Honestly, it did not seem that they've stated anything different than has been discussed here, i.e. clues leading to the truth.

The only thing they did elude to alot, is the number 7.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: anamama on February 14, 2010, 10:04:45 PM
I agree with several of the comments about these videos thus far:

1. They are creepy/haunting.
2. They don't (upon a cursory viewing, at least) assert anything that we haven't discussed here on MJDHI.
3. They are creative.
4. They are manipulative (isn't ALL media?).

My beLIEf is that these videos are incredibly sophisticated to be the work of an amateur -- somebody with experience put a LOT of time and effort into them. That, I think, we can assume, right?

This begs the question -- did the creator of these videos make them as part of the hoax....as a means of providing affirmation for much of the work we've done thus far and likely providing us with more clues?

Or...is this someone who simply wants to mess with our minds and show us to be fools?

Either way, a WHOLE lot of effort is being put into it.

Souza, I definitely feel where you're coming from with your skepticism, but I'm not sure that we should dismiss these videos -- we shouldn't be dismissing ANYTHING at this point.

Think about it....if Michael created this elaborate hoax, as we believe, wouldn't it be a multimedia effort? Wouldn't he use YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and every other commonly visited form of internet communication?

If someone thought that we hoax beLIEvers were so pathetic, would he or she go to the lengths LastSevenWords has to deceive us?

Maybe....or maybe not. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: jacilovesmichael on February 14, 2010, 10:28:53 PM
Quote from: "anamama"
I agree with several of the comments about these videos thus far:

1. They are creepy/haunting.
2. They don't (upon a cursory viewing, at least) assert anything that we haven't discussed here on MJDHI.
3. They are creative.
4. They are manipulative (isn't ALL media?).

My beLIEf is that these videos are incredibly sophisticated to be the work of an amateur -- somebody with experience put a LOT of time and effort into them. That, I think, we can assume, right?

This begs the question -- did the creator of these videos make them as part of the hoax....as a means of providing affirmation for much of the work we've done thus far and likely providing us with more clues?

Or...is this someone who simply wants to mess with our minds and show us to be fools?

Either way, a WHOLE lot of effort is being put into it.

Souza, I definitely feel where you're coming from with your skepticism, but I'm not sure that we should dismiss these videos -- we shouldn't be dismissing ANYTHING at this point.

Think about it....if Michael created this elaborate hoax, as we believe, wouldn't it be a multimedia effort? Wouldn't he use YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and every other commonly visited form of internet communication?

If someone thought that we hoax beLIEvers were so pathetic, would he or she go to the lengths LastSevenWords has to deceive us?

Maybe....or maybe not. Only time will tell.

I agree that we shouldn't write anything off. These videos may be a bit creepy or with a "mind control" vibe, but mostly I see creativity and brilliance. Stuff we already know put in a way that not too many people are capable of....
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 14, 2010, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: "anamama"
I agree with several of the comments about these videos thus far:

1. They are creepy/haunting.
2. They don't (upon a cursory viewing, at least) assert anything that we haven't discussed here on MJDHI.
3. They are creative.
4. They are manipulative (isn't ALL media?).

My beLIEf is that these videos are incredibly sophisticated to be the work of an amateur -- somebody with experience put a LOT of time and effort into them. That, I think, we can assume, right?

This begs the question -- did the creator of these videos make them as part of the hoax....as a means of providing affirmation for much of the work we've done thus far and likely providing us with more clues?

Or...is this someone who simply wants to mess with our minds and show us to be fools?

Either way, a WHOLE lot of effort is being put into it.

Souza, I definitely feel where you're coming from with your skepticism, but I'm not sure that we should dismiss these videos -- we shouldn't be dismissing ANYTHING at this point.

Think about it....if Michael created this elaborate hoax, as we believe, wouldn't it be a multimedia effort? Wouldn't he use YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and every other commonly visited form of internet communication?

If someone thought that we hoax beLIEvers were so pathetic, would he or she go to the lengths LastSevenWords has to deceive us?

Maybe....or maybe not. Only time will tell.

See the part I bolded, I really think this guy is bad news, too many triggers in his vids, I can't believe Mike would agree on posting this by his team...
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: foreverking on February 14, 2010, 10:54:26 PM
Someone can only mess with your mind if you let them. I think the vids are very creative and very interesting. Nothing should be dismissed in regards to this hoax. The idea is to put everything on the table, look it over, disect it, ask questions, push forward and find the truth.
Whom ever is making these videos is putting a lot of time into them.  I like them but I'm not sure they have any more information than any of the hoax sites.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 14, 2010, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: "foreverking"
Someone can only mess with your mind if you let them. I think the vids are very creative and very interesting. Nothing should be dismissed in regards to this hoax. The idea is to put everything on the table, look it over, disect it, ask questions, push forward and find the truth.
Whom ever is making these videos is putting a lot of time into them.  I like them but I'm not sure they have any more information than any of the hoax sites.

I only see triggers and no answers at all. The fact that they put that much effort into making the vids disturbes me the most.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: PinkTopaz on February 14, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "foreverking"
Someone can only mess with your mind if you let them. I think the vids are very creative and very interesting. Nothing should be dismissed in regards to this hoax. The idea is to put everything on the table, look it over, disect it, ask questions, push forward and find the truth.
Whom ever is making these videos is putting a lot of time into them.  I like them but I'm not sure they have any more information than any of the hoax sites.

I only see triggers and no answers at all. The fact that they put that much effort into making the vids disturbes me the most.
You mean.. you're afraid ordinary people might become mind-controlled by watching these..?
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 14, 2010, 11:11:12 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "foreverking"
Someone can only mess with your mind if you let them. I think the vids are very creative and very interesting. Nothing should be dismissed in regards to this hoax. The idea is to put everything on the table, look it over, disect it, ask questions, push forward and find the truth.
Whom ever is making these videos is putting a lot of time into them.  I like them but I'm not sure they have any more information than any of the hoax sites.

I only see triggers and no answers at all. The fact that they put that much effort into making the vids disturbes me the most.
You mean.. you're afraid ordinary people might become mind-controlled by watching these..?

No I don't think that can be done because programming people takes a lot more, but he is manipulating people. My thought is just that because there are too many triggers in the videos, he can't be good camp. If I look at how persistant this guy is, makes me think he is very bad news.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on February 14, 2010, 11:11:34 PM
i personally thought it was a great video. it kind of confirmed some thoughts i was having about the hoax. i sure hope everyone is as openminded as they say they are because imho the reason for this hoax is a whole lot different than what some may think. but i guess in time we will all see. its all for love. l.o.v.e.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 14, 2010, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
i personally thought it was a great video. it kind of confirmed some thoughts i was having about the hoax. i sure hope everyone is as openminded as they say they are because imho the reason for this hoax is a whole lot different than what some may think. but i guess in time we will all see. its all for love. l.o.v.e.

LOVE is a code word as well. Mind control victims are bombarded with love the first 18 months, then all the love will be taken away and the victim will be abused in any possible way (I will spare you the details). The child learns that PAIN=LOVE and LOVE=PAIN. One of the MK ULTRA programs is the I LOVE YOU-I LOVE YOU NOT program. For a mind control victim love means something else than for someone who is not a victim.

Food for thought...
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on February 14, 2010, 11:52:22 PM
@souza im not under mind control and i seriously doubt if michael was. my feeling is that this is not about the illuminati or any other demons. its a lttle more deep than that and as i said some wont understand or even believe.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 14, 2010, 11:56:30 PM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
@souza im not under mind control and i seriously doubt if michael was. my feeling is that this is not about the illuminati or any other demons. its a lttle more deep than that and as i said some wont understand or even believe.


Try me, because I am seriously curious what can be more deep than that.

ps. where did I say that you are under mind control?
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on February 15, 2010, 12:11:34 AM
no u did not say it but it was suggested. dont want to get into what i see unfolding. all i will say is that two characters in the video play a really big part in the hoax.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 15, 2010, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
no u did not say it but it was suggested. dont want to get into what i see unfolding. all i will say is that two characters in the video play a really big part in the hoax.

Suggested by who? Not by me. Maybe you should read it again.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: *Mo* on February 15, 2010, 05:00:37 AM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
dont want to get into what i see unfolding. all i will say is that two characters in the video play a really big part in the hoax.

Don't want to get into what you see unfolding?  Then do not even bring it up.  People are being manipulated to the fullest and bombarded with suggestive messages by evil people who are clearly not on Mike's side.  Your reply is no help at all, and to me it looks like you're even trying to scare people.  I don't like it at all.

All  Lastsevenwords' videos are highly disturbing, manipulative and dangerous for mind control victims.  My advice: skip them and ignore this guy, or in case you do want to watch them, flag the videos.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on February 15, 2010, 01:14:23 PM
@ mo first id like to say that im not trying to scare anyone its just not that kind of person. i am definitely on michaels side and i will support him his message and his cause to the fullest of my ability. but like i said before when all is said and done i hope EVERYONE still supports him like i do.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: simalves on February 15, 2010, 10:34:39 PM
The video is very professionally made I will say that.

I only understood FIO as find it out so far.

They posted on 14 feb and had 14/2 in their comments. They are trying to allude to the number 7
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: MJonmind on February 15, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
It's funny strange that Souza you said some programming words were "I love you- I love you not". And the  twitter.com/thisisalsoit  for today is flowers with "loves me, loves me not".
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 15, 2010, 11:34:05 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
It's funny strange that Souza you said some programming words were "I love you- I love you not". And the  twitter.com/thisisalsoit  for today is flowers with "loves me, loves me not".

Oh my, I really am not behind that twitter account  :lol:
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: letstalkagain on February 16, 2010, 12:04:45 AM
I thought it was interesting ands while it was very professional in it's presentation, I cannot say that I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: URnotalone on February 16, 2010, 03:59:39 AM
I'm not taking any credits for this, just look at this post:
http://sjlovesmj.tumblr.com/post/392383812/video-by-last-seven-words
adding my 2 cents:

W.R.H. = We are (-making-)History? or: What Really Happened
A piece of LOVE/or: aPART from Love=without LOVE + Tunnel of Darkness? = A Series of un4tunate 3vents (4+3=7)
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: illusionist on February 28, 2010, 07:35:17 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

At least he doesn't seem to have access to his twitter account anymore.

So you know who he is? He's said something interesting things to me over the weekend...
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 01, 2010, 02:50:15 PM
Quote from: "illusionist"
Quote from: "~Souza~"

At least he doesn't seem to have access to his twitter account anymore.

So you know who he is? He's said something interesting things to me over the weekend...


Someone desperately seeking for attention, not worth bothering IMHO...
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: neverlandprincess on March 01, 2010, 03:23:01 PM
I think lastsevenwords person make svery interesting and captivating videos. Some of the best out there and that is my opinion. I dont think they say anything NEW per se' but they hold your attention to some important points. Thats just my opinion. I dont "follow" them like they are the gospel but I dont think they are out to do harm.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 01, 2010, 03:33:26 PM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
I think lastsevenwords person make svery interesting and captivating videos. Some of the best out there and that is my opinion. I dont think they say anything NEW per se' but they hold your attention to some important points. Thats just my opinion. I dont "follow" them like they are the gospel but I dont think they are out to do harm.

I would reconsider, but that's up to you.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: illusionist on March 01, 2010, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
I think lastsevenwords person make svery interesting and captivating videos.

Who says they make the videos themselves?  :lol:
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: neverlandprincess on March 02, 2010, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: "illusionist"
Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
I think lastsevenwords person make svery interesting and captivating videos.

Who says they make the videos themselves?  :lol:
Ok...whatever I was just saying ...let me clarify-"the videos coming from the lastsevenwords channel are very captivating and interesting"
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: pyt777 on March 04, 2010, 10:41:02 AM
Is it strange that I don't find LSW to be insistent @ all? I mean three videos is hardly indicative of being insistent.  Compared to the 30+ videos of others in the world of the MJ death hoax videos.  As to all the work that is put into those videos, perhaps this person is a perfectionist and pays attention to detail? I am sure a lot of hard work and dedication goes into the running of this forum, and there is much attention to detail, I would not use that, however, as a premise for saying that the admin's intentions are scary...

In my opinion, I do not consider these videos to be any more of a trigger for MK Ultra victims, than many of Mike's songs, and short films, or for that matter the majority of media in popular culture since....forever.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: neverlandprincess on March 04, 2010, 03:07:04 PM
Quote from: "pyt777"
Is it strange that I don't find LSW to be insistent @ all? I mean three videos is hardly indicative of being insistent.  Compared to the 30+ videos of others in the world of the MJ death hoax videos.  As to all the work that is put into those videos, perhaps this person is a perfectionist and pays attention to detail? I am sure a lot of hard work and dedication goes into the running of this forum, and there is much attention to detail, I would not use that, however, as a premise for saying that the admin's intentions are scary...

In my opinion, I do not consider these videos to be any more of a trigger for MK Ultra victims, than many of Mike's songs, and short films, or for that matter the majority of media in popular culture since....forever.


That is what I meant.
Title: Re: New video from Lastsevenwords
Post by: pyt777 on March 04, 2010, 09:36:50 PM
Quote
by pyt777 ยป Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:41 pm

Is it strange that I don't find LSW to be insistent @ all? I mean three videos is hardly indicative of being insistent. Compared to the 30+ videos of others in the world of the MJ death hoax videos. As to all the work that is put into those videos, perhaps this person is a perfectionist and pays attention to detail? I am sure a lot of hard work and dedication goes into the running of this forum, and there is much attention to detail, I would not use that, however, as a premise for saying that the admin's intentions are scary...

In my opinion, I do not consider these videos to be any more of a trigger for MK Ultra victims, than many of Mike's songs, and short films, or for that matter the majority of media in popular culture since....forever.

This is just an update one my last post.  With regard to triggers found in everyday popular culture.  I have found a video which amply demostrates how this is done with ordinary people who have not been directly programmed by the CIA.  This is how YOU are PROGRAMMED and INITIATED into Freemasonry in your own living rooms:

[youtube:1sj7b6ht]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGiZN1uBXQ&feature=related[/youtube:1sj7b6ht]

To understand the references to Oprah and Christ Consciousness, please watch the preceeding videos.

Whether you are a Christian or Athiest- only by doing your homework can you escape the subliminal acceptance of the shady agendas of these nefarious organizations which rob you daily of your freedom to choose.
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