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Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: steph on February 09, 2010, 03:43:18 PM

Title: drivers license
Post by: steph on February 09, 2010, 03:43:18 PM
Did i read correctly on the autopsy report that michael was identified by his drivers licence?
is that not a bit strange seeing that his family were ment to be at the hospital?
So mj just happen to have his drivers licence in his pocket when he arrived at the hospital,
did the ambo people pick it up and take it? surely a family member would have been better.
When would mj need to carry a licence he had people to drive him.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: karen-ishealive on February 09, 2010, 03:50:27 PM
I didn't read the report but I have heard others speak about this.
Didn't Jermaine say he saw him in the hospital in a bed and didn't the kids see him.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: rowdyangel on February 09, 2010, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: "steph"
Did i read correctly on the autopsy report that michael was identified by his drivers licence?
is that not a bit strange seeing that his family were ment to be at the hospital?
So mj just happen to have his drivers licence in his pocket when he arrived at the hospital,
did the ambo people pick it up and take it? surely a family member would have been better.
When would mj need to carry a licence he had people to drive him.

According to the autopsy report MJ didn't have a pocket as he was unclothed.  So that blows that theory into the water.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: liegi on February 09, 2010, 04:09:42 PM
I read in the Rolling Stones article he was wearing shiny black pants.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 09, 2010, 04:10:31 PM
Quote from: "liegi"
I read in the Rolling Stones article he was wearing shiny black pants.

eh?
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: rowdyangel on February 09, 2010, 04:16:19 PM
Quote from: "liegi"
I read in the Rolling Stones article he was wearing shiny black pants.

Huh?  No - autopsy claims body was not clothed and no clothing was available for analysis.  Therefore, no pocket for the driving license and if things were as hectic at the house as we are led to believe, I doubt anyone would spend time trying to look for it.

Also, the DL says Michael Joe Jackson and autopsy is Michael Joseph Jackson!
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: the arabian nights on February 09, 2010, 04:23:37 PM
he was trying to sleep so why would he have his driving licence with him, and surely cm was too busy to take it - mike did not drive - did he - he had drivers, was it to hand?

the first few paragraphs said i have not read much - sorry also said that he was not in his normal room, what room was he in?
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: Suzi~Ses~Its~Right on February 09, 2010, 04:39:05 PM
La Toya on many occasions stated she identified Michael's body and signed the DC im sure of it! but then i have so many names swimming around my head over all this  :(
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: virgo75 on February 09, 2010, 04:43:26 PM
Quote from: "Suzi~Ses~Its~Right"
La Toya on many occasions stated she identified Michael's body and signed the DC im sure of it! but then i have so many names swimming around my head over all this  :(


I've seen this as well - that Latoya said she ID'd him.

It's also possible that someone else was carrying his wallet for him or had access to his important items at all times - like an assistant or bodyguard.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: Heatherette on February 09, 2010, 04:46:15 PM
Okay...umm, We keep seeing the Diver's license photo of him from the 80's when he was brown. So what doe's his DL photo look like now?!. How could they have identified his body with this DL? Obviously he doesn't look like that anymore. So did he have a recent photo or what? :!:
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: virgo75 on February 09, 2010, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: "Heatherette"
Okay...umm, We keep seeing the Diver's license photo of him from the 80's when he was brown. So what doe's his DL photo look like now?!. How could they have identified his body with this DL? Obviously he doesn't look like that anymore. So did he have a recent photo or what? :!:


I'd assume he did/does have an updated DL.
I don't know how many years it is in California, but in most states you have to update your ID/DL every 3-5 years or so.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: mumof3 on February 09, 2010, 05:30:10 PM
it does say he was identified by driving license or words to that effect
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: hope on February 09, 2010, 05:38:26 PM
I would assume he had on pajama pants (shiny blk pants), but the hospital would have probably cut them off and  put a hospital gown on him (just my guess). However, Ive never known anyone to carry their DL in their Pajama pants.  :?
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: SEHF on February 09, 2010, 05:42:49 PM
His main body guard would likely carry his information for him most of the time.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: liegi on February 10, 2010, 02:49:35 AM
I don't have time now, but I'll find the article and write the quotation.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: msteetee34 on February 10, 2010, 04:24:10 AM
Quote from: "hope"
I would assume he had on pajama pants (shiny blk pants), but the hospital would have probably cut them off and  put a hospital gown on him (just my guess). However, Ive never known anyone to carry their DL in their Pajama pants.  :?

I heard a girl on tv say that he wasn't wearing nothing but a black pair of slacks.  So if the pants had pockets who knows but this doesn't seem like the legal way to identify someone.  A person that knows the patient would have to confirm the identity.  It should also be confirmed by fingerprints, dental records, and DNA.  Makes no sense.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: the arabian nights on February 10, 2010, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: "SEHF"
His main body guard would likely carry his information for him most of the time.
why would the body guard do that?
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: city.gal1 on February 10, 2010, 02:01:15 PM
I'm not sure that when they are saying that they identified the body by looking at his DL necessarily meant that MJ, or anybody there, physically had it on/with him/them.  They could have just looked up his info on the state's database which would have his driver license photo, etc. on it.  After all, the coroners dept is a governmental agency and would have access to the info, not to mention PD.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: Kuki72 on February 10, 2010, 02:06:37 PM
Are we all not getting confused here?

Is it not logical to assume that when the body was handed over for the autopsy, is it not reasonable to assume that whatever medics had been working on him before he "died", that they would prepare the body for examination for autopsy, i.e., have it unclothed and laid out on a table with a sheet or towel etc over it? When my dad passed 2 years ago very suddenly (massive heart attack), the doctors etc didn't just hand his body over - they "prepared" it so to speak. Am I making sense? So therefore, it doesn't really matter what he was or not wearing at the time of death, because the autopsy isn't really interested in what he was actually wearing and wouldn't document it as such. Clear as mud to everyone?? :|
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: liegi on February 10, 2010, 03:45:35 PM
I think that was a great point.  Why would what someone's wearing be in a coroner's report?
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: dragonflylilies on February 10, 2010, 05:16:28 PM
This is what I got from the report.  It said that Michael had an iv in his leg.  They were trying to determine if he was able to give himself propofol.  How could he have on shiny black pants and still have an iv in his leg?  I know you could just push up the pant leg, but wouldn't it be easier to just take off the pants.  I dont know what to think about this report.  There are so many inconsistancies between what we have been led to believe before and now what is in the report.  Why did it take so long to make it public?  Why was it made public?  I was in tears when I was reading it, all on the same day that Murray was charged.  Does his family just want us to believe that he truly is gone?  So many questions and not enough answers.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on February 11, 2010, 01:54:31 AM
The report was sealed until the investigation was complete...that's why it was released the same day they pressed charges against Murray.  I really don't think the clothing or DL are significant.
Title: Re: drivers license
Post by: becca26 on February 11, 2010, 02:06:58 AM
I read some article a while back from a guy whom worked ont he Dangerous album with MJ and he said that MJ could not drive very well lol, that he would smash up car that were parked in the parking lot, so he would run out for MJ, I remember he talked about going to Mc Donalds for him since he had never eaten it, and he order one of ebeything, and the other was going to buy him so underwear lol, sorry it seems bezare but the guy was pretty truthful. I don't know if any of you had read that, but that is what stuck out to me when I heard drivers licence and MJ togther. That is why MJ had a driver, he has passport for ID if they need ID also, what happend to his most resent passport, did'nt they say that went missing???? :?
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