Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: jennyruby on February 08, 2010, 08:12:44 PM
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is it to much to ask for the real conrad murray to please stand up.
look at him the real one right behind the dA TROOT one
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WOW :o :shock: :lol:
Still rolling on!
THANK YOU!
I love you for this!
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WTF?!?!
So the other Conrad Murray was THERE?!?! :shock:
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Dont give up on Michael guys
oviously with both murrays there this was all part of the plan
even though it was a tough day.
L>O>V>E>
Michael wont let us down
theres a reason for all of this
even if we cant right now comprehend why we had to go through today.
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:lol:
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OMJ :lol: I 've seen that Conrad M photo but.. I've never noticed that the real one was in there :o
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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D BRAVO!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Holy... crap.
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:o wtf??? oh thats just too funny!
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Keep the faith things are getting a little tougher but who said it was going to be easy, this photo basically sums it up the black guy is just a pawn while the real murray just sits there and the media hasnt picked this up yet lol
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And in this court they said and accepted that Murray has no criminal reccord, and we saw this thing about domestic violence...
This police photo of him being fake match again the theory that Murray might play MJ role.
This is not it at all.
At least by now.
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Good find keep up the good work!
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Is the black guy even a doctor? if he isn't then the media are a bunch of retards
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Wow - it looks like the real Dr Murray is smiling for the camera's. Brilliant!
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Has the picture of the white guy been investigated? Does anyone know anything about him. This is a great end to a tense day. Thank you :D
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Hi Everyone
After I read about the TMZ personel laughing in the background when Baklolo phoned them on the 5th I can't help but wonder if they aren't playing with us? Now I see this photo with the 2nd Murray...
I really hope it's not the case...I'm keeping the faith in Michael, even if it someone wants us to stop! It's just not so easy these days, but I guess no one said it was going to be... Imagine what he must be going through.
How can we know the photo is trustworthy?
I wish we could somehow contact the 2nd Murray!?
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Holy crap !! GOOD FINDING !!
NOW this is totally NO coincidence !!
The other Murray has never been mentioned on t.v ! only on the web ..
There has to be an explanation for this !!
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I want to add, that.. lets say that the white guy its not the real doctor CM.. isnt really weird.. that he's on the trial ???
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:lol: This is just too awesome for words.
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Great find jennyruby!! :lol: :lol: So guys,this is phase 2...lets regroup and stay focus...much more to come ;)
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And is it that no other media have this footage?
Was there just one camera?
Ok, I know it would be going really far to fake this...
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I want to add, that.. lets say that the white guy its not the real doctor CM.. isnt really weird.. that he's on the trial ???
YES! What the hell is he doing there?!?! :shock: There must be a reason for this
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OMJ :lol:
That's funny!!! OMJ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It seems to dress the same way in both pictures :lol: :lol: Ho my ...
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OMFG! :lol:
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Lols wowiie :D
That's totally unexpected weird :? lols
Butu both of them in the same room hmm that's amazing yet so weird lols :0 :shock: :0 :shock:
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I saw on Sky News in the UK, footage of Conrad Murray's legal defense team including the other Conrad Murray standing at the mics having a press conference. The other CM was wearing a Fedora/Trilby hat.
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Have you realize that other times we wonder if this guy is the same that this other one, because of a sight or something, checking if he really is... No doubt in this case.
Let´s make ourselves a question now...
Why do we know this guy to now recognize him?
Coincidences don´t exist, but this time it´s too much.
This is what in screenwritting is known as an "antedecent".
Screenwritter puts an antecedent so you understand something later...
I know a bit about screenwritting, which has rules and turning points...
This seems totally scripted.
Mike is really making movies in a traditional but also innovating way...
I LOVE YOU MICHAEL, YOU´RE BIG, REALLY BIG.
We should follow this clue.
We need to know who he is right away.
Not many people in court, less behind Murray.
The "real" Murray doesn´t come with him, he was already there?
Who or what kind of people are allowed to get in there?
And there´s still a possibility that this man is something like a Murray´s employee or similar, so he has a reason to be there and a reason for the pic saying that this white man is Murray...
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I don't know what you guys are talking about? Can someone refresh me? Who is the white guy? I feel like I'm out of the know!
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somekindofsign, Thanks for that info. I noticed the other Conrad Murray right away. I recognized him from his photo which was on the forums the other day. Did this photo appear as an "antecedent". If it did then it worked.
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OneLove, the first pic you see, is from somewhere (I can´t tell you where right now, someone may tell you better), where within other Mike´s case pics, they put this pic saying on its foot that this is Dr. Murray.
Can someone link that thread here, and also the link to the original web?
*Edit* The photo is from Splash News and dated from 2006, which was indeed weird, as it was rejated to Mike´s death. Fact that still coul be a misprint copying code.
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Thanks somekindofsign, I get it now. It must be the wrong caption or something. Who knows anymore!
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Great find! I cannot find the original thread on the real Dr. Murray anywhere. Please post the link for us that shows Conrad Murray, Debbie Rowe and Eric George photos. Thanks! Again, great find! :D
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Wow, that is a great find. But, how do we know that the white guy is Conrad Murray? Where did it say this? Could it have been a typo or something like that, and this guy might be another doctor in the same practice, just there for moral support?
Just wondering how we can find out for sure what the white guys name is. Or was this photo from a reliable source? I so desperately want to keep believing. But this autopsy report is really getting to me. It is so detailed, down to his teeth and everything. Could 22 pages have been faked? Could it really be somebody else's report and they are using as part of the hoax?
I am just really depressed, as I am sure a lot of your are. And confused.
Please Shadow, come back to me.
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you know this day reminds me of the trial when Michael came in his pajamas and it was gavins day to testify. The whole day just sucked, but we got through it. in the end june 13th we got through those dark days we will get through this. One day at a time.
it says it right on the title of his picture. But like its like that was planted or something
like it was meant for us to see and then see him in court
I noticed him right away
but Ive never noticed that dude before on anything
at the end he was hanging out da troots lawyers
hell which might be his lawyers....
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This is a great post thank you!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: This is really too much to take :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Ok, I´ve got it. The old thread was:
"Who" is this???
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4060&hilit=dr+murray+splash+news
But the link to the photo is not working now.
http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/entertainment/michael-jackson-conrad-robert-murray-houston-texas/image/5055926?term=Michael+Jackson&tpidc=iqHv%3bl09m%3bl08n%3bl07S%3bl07R%3bl06c%3bl067%3bl04e%3bl04d%3bl04c%3bl04b%3bl04a%3bl049%3bl048%3bl046%3bl047&scomp=pgNext&CategoryId=4&post=http%3a%2f%2fwww.facebook.com%2f&network=Other
jennyruby where did you find that screenshot?
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Wow, that is a great find. But, how do we know that the white guy is Conrad Murray? Where did it say this? Could it have been a typo or something like that, and this guy might be another doctor in the same practice, just there for moral support?
Just wondering how we can find out for sure what the white guys name is. Or was this photo from a reliable source? I so desperately want to keep believing. But this autopsy report is really getting to me. It is so detailed, down to his teeth and everything. Could 22 pages have been faked? Could it really be somebody else's report and they are using as part of the hoax?
I am just really depressed, as I am sure a lot of your are. And confused.
Please Shadow, come back to me.
that coroner said that he delayed the report indefintly
which is crao but theres no way tmz has one for Michael.
tmz has faked this crap all through this whatever the hell this is.
a tabloid isnt going to get this report
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Ok, I´ve got it. The old thread was:
"Who" is this???
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4060&hilit=dr+murray+splash+news
But the link to the photo is not working now.
http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/entertainment/michael-jackson-conrad-robert-murray-houston-texas/image/5055926?term=Michael+Jackson&tpidc=iqHv%3bl09m%3bl08n%3bl07S%3bl07R%3bl06c%3bl067%3bl04e%3bl04d%3bl04c%3bl04b%3bl04a%3bl049%3bl048%3bl046%3bl047&scomp=pgNext&CategoryId=4&post=http%3a%2f%2fwww.facebook.com%2f&network=Other
jennyruby where did you find that screenshot?
i had it saved from the other day.
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I think we misunderstood Michael´s lyric...
I doesn´t matter if you black or white... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D ;)
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uhh how about BOW
maybe thats why her name is blackorwhite-BOW
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Thank you! jenny~
it's a great find!!!
Expect what will coming :lol:
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yeah maybe huh
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Woooow... this post mos def put a pep back in my step. Wasn't looking to good to me today but now I'm feeling a lil better! THANKS!
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uhh how about BOW
maybe thats why her name is blackorwhite-BOW
Mmmm... don´t think so.
If she´s not lying she got involved later and BOW talking about MJ is important for many things.
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uhh how about BOW
maybe thats why her name is blackorwhite-BOW
She wrote that a lot will come but CM will not be charged. So lets wait and see. I never believed in BOW and I still don´t believe her.
SONY: BeLIEve
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I dont believe in her either, i just thought maybe she says what she has researched. Maybe she knows
theres a "white conrad murray. I keep saying there is 2 conrad murrays but the Da troot Murray is really someone else. His name really isnt conrad murray.
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uhh how about BOW
maybe thats why her name is blackorwhite-BOW
She wrote that a lot will come but CM will not be charged. So lets wait and see. I never believed in BOW and I still don´t believe her.
SONY: BeLIEve
no, bow said murray wouldn't be charged last friday .. and she was right .. she didnt say he would never be charged ..she said he wouldn't go to prison ..they are two different things .. she has also been saying for awhile now ..that April would be important .. and Murray is to be back in court on April 5.. easter monday
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I still have no reason to stop keeping an eye on BOW.
She said exactly that Murray wouldn´t be ARRESTED.
And she said somedays ago that April will be important ;)
Too tired today, but this matter about two Murrays well worth some work tomorrow.
See yous!
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So then, Michaels children, family, Kai Chase and all the people employed at Holmby Home are covering this truth. Why? That would mean that alot of people are well aware of this hoax, including someone that only worked for Michael for a short time. That's a whole lot of people in on this hoax then. Sorry if there was some truth to this, don't you think it would of been leaked to the media.
At this rate, Michael is paying half of LA & Hollywood to keep their mouths shut. He would be broke again very soon don't you think.
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by pinkshots » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:46 pm
OMG where to start
I posted some time ago that Dr Murray is not a black man, but not many seem to understand. I then posted a pic of the
true dr Murray and again not much respose!!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm A white man!!!
Then the pics dissappeared from the web site!!! that was a clear message to me something was up, so I emailed
them and waited and waited but no answer until today!!!!
Their message was This was an error in our system.
Sharon Floyd
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THEN low and behold what do we see today??? the real dr murray sitting in court behind the black Dr Murray!!! I smell a rat here guys!! Ive called media here and Ive emailed a pic of white murray as they asked!!!
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by pinkshots » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:46 pm
OMG where to start
I posted some time ago that Dr Murray is not a black man, but not many seem to understand. I then posted a pic of the
true dr Murray and again not much respose!!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm A white man!!!
Then the pics dissappeared from the web site!!! that was a clear message to me something was up, so I emailed
them and waited and waited but no answer until today!!!!
Their message was This was an error in our system.
Sharon Floyd
New Business Manager
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SPLASH NEWS
333 W. Washington Boulevard, Suite 508
Marina Del Rey - CA 90292 - USA
Tel 1 310 821 2666 ext 106
Cell 1 718 216 3594
Fax 1 310 396 5152
THEN low and behold what do we see today??? the real dr murray sitting in court behind the black Dr Murray!!! I smell a rat here guys!! Ive called media here and Ive emailed a pic of white murray as they asked!!!
Excellent. I smell a rat, too. Thank you for taking the time in doing this. Wonderful work!
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thanks neversaynever.. but the credit goes to pinkshots/mjonmymind!
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by pinkshots » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:46 pm
OMG where to start
I posted some time ago that Dr Murray is not a black man, but not many seem to understand. I then posted a pic of the
true dr Murray and again not much respose!!!! Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm A white man!!!
Then the pics dissappeared from the web site!!! that was a clear message to me something was up, so I emailed
them and waited and waited but no answer until today!!!!
Their message was This was an error in our system.
Sharon Floyd
New Business Manager
You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login
SPLASH NEWS
333 W. Washington Boulevard, Suite 508
Marina Del Rey - CA 90292 - USA
Tel 1 310 821 2666 ext 106
Cell 1 718 216 3594
Fax 1 310 396 5152
THEN low and behold what do we see today??? the real dr murray sitting in court behind the black Dr Murray!!! I smell a rat here guys!! Ive called media here and Ive emailed a pic of white murray as they asked!!!
This is really amazing. I hope that it does not cause problems to Michael or anybody. But this is nearly for the first time something which does really convince me. This is a great and strong evidence to me that something is not right!!! Very good work.
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MORE folks need to visit this thread. :D :D :D
Too many are giving up.
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@ CHANCE
Aren´t you afraid that it might disturb Michael´s plan? I am worried about it so we will never know how it might end up, but at the same time maybe this is the plan that we the investigators spread the truth...What do you and others think about it?
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Hi everyone!!
This is pinkshots!! I left this site MJ Kit some time ago becasue i had very private messages
dissapear. I do drop by from time to time but not often!!
As you will see ive contacted media in my country re the real dr white conrad murray!!
they are following up this as we speak!!!!
I wish people had listen to me from the start!! DE7 was someone who should never had been put through what he was put through on the forum!! he knew so much!!! Im sure of it!
keep the faith guys!! This is really BIG STUFF!!!!!! Its no game thats for sure!!
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Hi everyone!!
This is pinkshots!! I left this site MJ Kit some time ago becasue i had very private messages
dissapear. I do drop by from time to time but not often!!
As you will see ive contacted media in my country re the real dr white conrad murray!!
they are following up this as we speak!!!!
I wish people had listen to me from the start!! DE7 was someone who should never had been put through what he was put through on the forum!! he knew so much!!! Im sure of it!
keep the faith guys!! This is really BIG STUFF!!!!!! Its no game thats for sure!!
Of course this is not a game and if so why do you give the information to the media? This is what I am really worried about what if this causes damage to Michael or makes his plan invalid...I think I would not have done it. But we will see what happens
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Hi everyone!!
This is pinkshots!! I left this site MJ Kit some time ago becasue i had very private messages
dissapear. I do drop by from time to time but not often!!
As you will see ive contacted media in my country re the real dr white conrad murray!!
they are following up this as we speak!!!!
I wish people had listen to me from the start!! DE7 was someone who should never had been put through what he was put through on the forum!! he knew so much!!! Im sure of it!
keep the faith guys!! This is really BIG STUFF!!!!!! Its no game thats for sure!!
Of course this is not a game and if so why do you give the information to the media? This is what I am really worried about what if this causes damage to Michael or makes his plan invalid...I think I would not have done it. But we will see what happens
lets put it this way!!! If they do nothing to disprove this, then we have a cover up big time!! true?
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ok wtf? there's 2 of the damn guys?
with the same name!!
so the white one is real? and the black one is fake?
:shock: :!: :shock: :?: :shock: :idea: :shock:
i keep saying this in my head...and i know its not in the right order but....do u see it like this too?
the begining:
Michael Jackson announces this is it tour
He gets his stuff together and hires the white dr.Murray as a doctor
and then he hired the black dr. Murray as a pawn for his master plan?
As time moves on he gets down to business
he gets his dancers and k.o shoots this is it
june 25th mj supposably has a cardiac arrest from black dr. Murray giving him that profol (sp)
While someone? or sumthing! is getting checked out by the paramedics after awhile mj is nethier
a) watching as the ambulance leaves at his home and gets away to lax which got shut down
OR
b) was the person in the ambulance and slipped into a get away car at the hospital?
Mj is pronounced gone hours later
the family gathers stuff from the house for mj n the kids
the whole will and guardian court things
after awhile
they have a private viewing before the memorial
they have the memorial which seems staged
they have the funeral which the this is it dancers as ushers
karen releases the tomb pics
everybody on larry king show
the whole liz taylor and mj kids n him at horror fest thing
the kids get a bigger allowance out of no where
the jackson get their show about jermaine's dream
joe wants a allowance and doesnt get one :lol: (sorry i still find it funny lol)
joe and the family demands for the files on mj and his death
finally of family dynasty: they visit the wrong forest lawn? but says its for security reasons
earth song michael jackson tribute with the kids apperance at the grammys (which seems like a way for mj to stay in the headlines along with his kids)
the announcement we are the world is being re-recorded
couple days before dr.murray goes to court he visits forrest lawn
dr.murray gets arrested while the real dr.murray lays low in the background
the fake death certificates n autopsy are sent to tmz the same day
im sorry maybe its me? but do u smell something fishy around these cases and clues?
now if i have a feeling we gonna hear alot more about this white dr.murray :shock:
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Hi everyone!!
This is pinkshots!! I left this site MJ Kit some time ago becasue i had very private messages
dissapear. I do drop by from time to time but not often!!
As you will see ive contacted media in my country re the real dr white conrad murray!!
they are following up this as we speak!!!!
I wish people had listen to me from the start!! DE7 was someone who should never had been put through what he was put through on the forum!! he knew so much!!! Im sure of it!
keep the faith guys!! This is really BIG STUFF!!!!!! Its no game thats for sure!!
Of course this is not a game and if so why do you give the information to the media? This is what I am really worried about what if this causes damage to Michael or makes his plan invalid...I think I would not have done it. But we will see what happens
lets put it this way!!! If they do nothing to disprove this, then we have a cover up big time!! true?
I think it depends on his reasons to do it and if the media is allready aware of it. Just because they do not point it out that clearly does not mean that they are not aware of it. Just a thought. But if they do not disprove maybe it just shows that they are not interested or we are not right or that Michael is in a witness protection and they are not allowed to do it...If they didn´t done it by now I am very convinced that they will not do it after your information...On the one hand they are not interested in the truth but on the other hand I do not really think that every single person who works on tv/for media (reporter) etc. is stupid and blind, this just does not make sense. Maybe they have unwritten laws in the industry of which we are not aware of...If you think about the NWO theorie (just for example) do you really believe that they do not know anything about it or that 9/11 was created by the government and other stuff they just do not show to us. So again to me it would not atomatically prove anything.
And what I am thinking about now...how often do they mentioned on tv that Michael´s funeral looked staged like it was made for hollywood...? Why was there not a single person who said directly we think that Michael has faked his death...I have to underline that it just shows that they might know something but do not say anything because it is for some reasons to risky. But lets wait and see. I am still not quite convinced of the idea. It might be very dangerous to make this specific information public
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"]ok wtf? there's 2 of the damn guys?
with the same name!!
so the white one is real? and the black one is fake?
:shock: :!: :shock: :?: :shock: :idea: :shock:
i keep saying this in my head...and i know its not in the right order but....do u see it like this too?
the begining:
Michael Jackson announces this is it tour
He gets his stuff together and hires the white dr.Murray as a doctor
and then he hired the black dr. Murray as a pawn for his master plan?
As time moves on he gets down to business
he gets his dancers and k.o shoots this is it
june 25th mj supposably has a cardiac arrest from black dr. Murray giving him that profol (sp)
While someone? or sumthing! is getting checked out by the paramedics after awhile mj is nethier
a) watching as the ambulance leaves at his home and gets away to lax which got shut down
OR
b) was the person in the ambulance and slipped into a get away car at the hospital?
Mj is pronounced gone hours later
the family gathers stuff from the house for mj n the kids
the whole will and guardian court things
after awhile
they have a private viewing before the memorial
they have the memorial which seems staged
they have the funeral which the this is it dancers as ushers
karen releases the tomb pics
everybody on larry king show
the whole liz taylor and mj kids n him at horror fest thing
the kids get a bigger allowance out of no where
the jackson get their show about jermaine's dream
joe wants a allowance and doesnt get one :lol: (sorry i still find it funny lol)
joe and the family demands for the files on mj and his death
finally of family dynasty: they visit the wrong forest lawn? but says its for security reasons
earth song michael jackson tribute with the kids apperance at the grammys (which seems like a way for mj to stay in the headlines along with his kids)
the announcement we are the world is being re-recorded
couple days before dr.murray goes to court he visits forrest lawn
dr.murray gets arrested while the real dr.murray lays low in the background
the fake death certificates n autopsy are sent to tmz the same day
im sorry maybe its me? but do u smell something fishy around these cases and clues?
now if i have a feeling we gonna hear alot more about this white dr.murray :shock:
Nice post :D
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If Mike is really fooling the media... WOW, he is just a genious :D
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ok seems like i missed something really big.... who is this "real Murray"?? how do you guys know it's the real Murray? please help..
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Hi everyone!!
This is pinkshots!! I left this site MJ Kit some time ago becasue i had very private messages
dissapear. I do drop by from time to time but not often!!
As you will see ive contacted media in my country re the real dr white conrad murray!!
they are following up this as we speak!!!!
I wish people had listen to me from the start!! DE7 was someone who should never had been put through what he was put through on the forum!! he knew so much!!! Im sure of it!
keep the faith guys!! This is really BIG STUFF!!!!!! Its no game thats for sure!!
Of course this is not a game and if so why do you give the information to the media? This is what I am really worried about what if this causes damage to Michael or makes his plan invalid...I think I would not have done it. But we will see what happens
lets put it this way!!! If they do nothing to disprove this, then we have a cover up big time!! true?
Doesn't all that need to happen is the site that posted the caucasian man say they posted the wrong picture and that is why they took it down? end of story. However, that doesn't explain how the SAME MAN is sitting behind Murray in court! I'm with some of the others - I'm not sure it's a good idea to get the media running down these leads. I don't think Sherlock Holmes ever gave his leads away before he solved the mystery, did he? :)
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I can kind of tell where the trial might go now.
Dr. Murray will end up being ALMOST convicted, and then, like a soap opera or something, the white Murray stands up and reveals to the entire courtroom: "I am the REAL Dr. Murray." And then, the courtroom doors burst open and Michael strides in: "Ya miss me?" :D
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@SIMPLY-[MJ] - I was really sad earlier after reading the responses people were having on here & the autopsy report. But I must say, I think you're right on with what you think happened. It still does seem plausible & if Michael was in danger then the LAPD would help him stage something like this for protection? Right? & the whole white Conrad Murray is just too weird for words. There's gotta be something going on there & the way he's smirking at the cameras who are unaware as to who he is, just crazy. I'm still keeping the faith as of right now...but even if MJ is gone (I'm still hoping he's not) the black Murray could still be a cover up hired by the real Murray maybe? So weird.
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Hi everyone!!
This is pinkshots!! I left this site MJ Kit some time ago becasue i had very private messages
dissapear. I do drop by from time to time but not often!!
As you will see ive contacted media in my country re the real dr white conrad murray!!
they are following up this as we speak!!!!
I wish people had listen to me from the start!! DE7 was someone who should never had been put through what he was put through on the forum!! he knew so much!!! Im sure of it!
keep the faith guys!! This is really BIG STUFF!!!!!! Its no game thats for sure!!
Of course this is not a game and if so why do you give the information to the media? This is what I am really worried about what if this causes damage to Michael or makes his plan invalid...I think I would not have done it. But we will see what happens
lets put it this way!!! If they do nothing to disprove this, then we have a cover up big time!! true?
Doesn't all that need to happen is the site that posted the caucasian man say they posted the wrong picture and that is why they took it down? end of story. However, that doesn't explain how the SAME MAN is sitting behind Murray in court! I'm with some of the others - I'm not sure it's a good idea to get the media running down these leads. I don't think Sherlock Holmes ever gave his leads away before he solved the mystery, did he? :)
Yes I think it is weird that this man is there and it was written that this is supposedly Dr. Murray, but hm who knows. This picture is just something I would not expect and we do not know who is messing with our minds, do we...And if he is somekind a spokesman for someone this would explain why he was there at court it is somehow a public person and this explains a lot. But we do not know if this is his real name...so it depends on how we look at the information. This is nevertheless very interesting to me and it would be funny if he was the real Murray I am non convinced that he is!
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uhh how about BOW
maybe thats why her name is blackorwhite-BOW
She wrote that a lot will come but CM will not be charged. So lets wait and see. I never believed in BOW and I still don´t believe her.
SONY: BeLIEve
no, bow said murray wouldn't be charged last friday .. and she was right .. she didnt say he would never be charged ..she said he wouldn't go to prison ..they are two different things .. she has also been saying for awhile now ..that April would be important .. and Murray is to be back in court on April 5.. easter monday
I do not believe in BOW but my memory is very good and I remember that she wrote (it was long time ago and I do not read her posts since weeks) that Murray will not be charged! This is the information I remember reading written by her and decided that I do not believe in anything she writes...
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Black or White!!!!!!! And Man in the Mirror? :twisted:
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I still have no reason to stop keeping an eye on BOW.
She said exactly that Murray wouldn´t be ARRESTED.
And she said somedays ago that April will be important ;)
Too tired today, but this matter about two Murrays well worth some work tomorrow.
See yous!
:lol: :lol: I didn´t know that she was this precise in her posts, as she always was of course. I think I have missed something for she was always a very convincing person to me, how could I miss her perfection in giving clues to us and not just some vague information ;) ;) :lol:
Sorry I need some sleep and I am not laughing at you, so please do not take it to serious.
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ok so today has been really hard for me and i was about to let go...but after seeing this thread i am slightly getting back on the roller coaster lol i am not going to go look at any other thread after this one and just go to sleep in a good mood instead of a bad mood...thank you for this find
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Sooo, how many puppets we have on the stage so far ????? :lol:
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Michael is a GENIUS, guys!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Michael is a GENIUS, guys!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Yes he is a total genius!
I would also like to make another confirmation on the legitimacy of the footage. (even though others may have already done so) I watch the Spanish channel all the time and the Spanish news station covered this as well. That 'other' CM was there. I saw him and it was at a different angle. There were many other cameras catching this at different angles.
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OMFG!! wat the hell is he doing there??? and who is he? dsnt anyone know?? wow awesome job!! thanx 4 this! im feeling rly rly bad ryt now and i feel mj rly is gone after i read this other post and the new autopsy..but this is making me feel a lil better..
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Michael is a GENIUS, guys!!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Yes he is a total genius!
I would also like to make another confirmation on the legitimacy of the footage. (even though others may have already done so) I watch the Spanish channel all the time and the Spanish news station covered this as well. That 'other' CM was there. I saw him and it was at a different angle. There were many other cameras catching this at different angles.
Hats off to Mike!!! 8-) 8-)
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Good Job! ;)
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..have you noticed that the white guy is kind of the "bleached" version of the black one?
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Wait, what ? Holy crap.
: D
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...me too I am very surprised...
but..could it be that the white guy is an associate in Dr Murray office,that is why he first appeared in a picture as Dr Murray,and now he is in court?
Remember that on the web there are some pictures of e'casanova under the name Michael jackson...what I mean is that mistakes on web occurs.
But..on the other side,the fact that nobody (dr Klein,joe and family..)had never seen Dr Murray makes the thing very suspicuous..
I hope this is a clue...
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Great find :D I had doubts about the hoax yesterday, but hope is coming back ;)
Thanks for sharing this with us :D ;)
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OH MY GOOD LORD! This can't be true, thank you for this!
We have te find out more about this "other" Dr Murray.
Michael, you're briljant! I love you so much! :D
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WTF !
In french: Putain de merde ! :D
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whatttttttttttttttttttttttt??????How do you find this???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!!!!Now Im totally lost....This is incredible!
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That was shocking! See I told everyone to keep the faith it ain't over yet ;)
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lol :lol: :lol: I'm hugging my computer I'm so so happy I was looking around on forums because after yesterday I lost faith but now, WOW....WOW I'm feeling so much better Love you for this thanks very much. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Wow....I was away for a few days because I strained my capsule on the right hand and I bruised my metacarpal (bone) on the weekend.... So I wasn't able to write on the pc...but it's a little bit better now..
I was away and I was a little down when I saw it all over the news with Conrad Murray...And now these news :), THANK YOU, GREAT FIND!!
MAy the GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH CONTINUE! ;)
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And is it that no other media have this footage?
Was there just one camera?
Ok, I know it would be going really far to fake this...
I've just had a look through the court footage TMZ showed and there is a guy behind Murray's lawyer that looks like well, Murray! I can't find the actual still of him smiling though.
[YouTube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjqa4c0oH4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjqa4c0oH4)[/YouTube] you'll need to freeze frame around 6:41 look behind the guard.
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This is unbelievable :lol:
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I saw on Sky News in the UK, footage of Conrad Murray's legal defense team including the other Conrad Murray standing at the mics having a press conference. The other CM was wearing a Fedora/Trilby hat.
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Hi, I didn't see that part but wanted to mention the white man that some seem to think is the real Doctor Murray. I wanted to mention it because someone here [couldn't find the post this morning] talked about him sitting in court. That I saw. He was not sitting on the spectators side of the courtroom. He's part of the legal team; plain and simple. I know I've seen him somewhere before, but just can't place him.
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So who is he after all?
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OMG this is the 1st I heard about the white Murry, lmao.
SOooo I guess it don't matter if Conrad Murry is black or white????
LMAO get the F outta is this guy for certain??!! :lol: This RIDE will
make ya wanna slap somebody!!! But I love it!!
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Wow....I was away for a few days because I strained my capsule on the right hand and I bruised my metacarpal (bone) on the weekend.... So I wasn't able to write on the pc...but it's a little bit better now..
I was away and I was a little down when I saw it all over the news with Conrad Murray...And now these news :), THANK YOU, GREAT FIND!!
MAy the GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH CONTINUE! ;)
Yeah, I think like you.
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@Jennyruby, i hope you don't mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2-F_FUvtE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG2-F_FUvtE)
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fasten your seatbelts !! here we go !! :lol: :lol: continue this great adventure :lol:
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fasten your seatbelts !! here we go !! :lol: :lol: continue this great adventure :lol:
HEE-HEE!
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WAS THE FOOTAGE WE WERE SHOWN OF INSIDE THE COURTROOM........REALLY TRUE???...IS THAT JUDGE A REAL JUDGE???......WAS IT ALL PRE FILMED????.....DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT JUDGE?????
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Matthew Alford ?
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matthew alford is the houston lawyer that works with chernoff
its not the same dude as who is behind da troot in court yesterday
see my next post and you will know what I mean
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http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/at ... lford.html (http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html)
this is Matthew Alford
The Houston attorney
that works with Murrays lawyers.
its not the same guy who was in the court sitting behind da troot murray.
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Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!! You made my day!
Michael..........you're the best!!!
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http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html
this is Matthew Alford
The Houston attorney
that works with Murrays lawyers.
its not the same guy who was in the court sitting behind da troot murray.
ok, went looking for our "white" murray in other videos with our "black" murray
he's in the video of the child support hearing from last year sittting against the wall to "black" murrays left , taking notes , wearing a bow tie (hey maybe he's that reporter BOW lol :D )
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... ce7c0ee18c (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e0470575-cad1-469e-8ae5-4cce7c0ee18c)
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:lol: :lol: Everytime I read the name of this post.. It reminds of a song from Eminem :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I cant help it :lol:
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Oh thank God!!!
Thankyouthankyouthankyou!!! Jenny you have saved me from the depths of dispair!!
Last night after everything happened I was really about to give up........I couldnt sleep, I didnt eat anything yesterday except at about 730....I was sick all day from this and you have brought me back to life!!!!
I LOVE YOU!!! LOL
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Could anyone explain the significance of this odd find? Are we even sure it wasn't a mistake that this guy's picture was shown as CM? I can only recall one site where I've seen him maybe they just did a mistake... And if this guy is the "real" CM he might have been plotting a murder with "blk CM". It's really strange indeed but does it prove that Michael is alive? Well to me it doesn't neither does rubbish bins but I'm still searching for the truth.
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all I know is is that splash news as of 2006 calls this guy dr conrad robert murray from Houston Texas.
Michael didnt "die" until 2009, so why is it that spash news knows of this guy and thinks this guy is
the dr conrad murray from houston and he just so happens to show up in court for conrad murray stuff.
He isnt a lawyer he isnt Matthew alford.
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As I said before My bf knows Dr Murray. they are both doctors
Of course Dr Murray is real and was in court yesterday
Many of my friends knew Michael but I never met him (unfortunately)
Anyway i was thinking yesterday and Michael would never want anyone to go through what he went throught with the child molestation charges. That almost killed him and yes he started taking medication there
Michael had a wonderful heart and it is not like him to have an innocent man take the blame (if he had faked his death)
garbage bins do not mean anything... the lights at the arena and funeral... the same.. of course normal, people in Hollywwod all use the same equipment. like cameras same thing there is only The red, arriflex or panavision, films Kodak or Fuji.. but Kodak is used 99% of the time
I know all the aspect of the movie industry and have been in hundreds of rehearsals and nothing was strange...
The family not crying at staples.. yes i did jugde them because i was crying my eyes out but then i remembered yesterday when i lost a very close family member i cried seeing the coffin but at the ceremony i was just in shock and just was going throught the motions
yes I KOW one fact i kept putting on his board which is 100 % real is that Conrad Murray is the real person you saw in court.. you would really think that a fake man would appear in court???
But people do not always want to see or accept the truth it seems.. they prefer speculations... and it is starting again!!!
I now realized i was in denial for loosing Michael... MIchael Jackson was bigger then life it seemed... I am now accepting that he is gone
If you a true fan you know Michael's heart
I hope you find you are searching.... Believe me I would love if I were wrong...I hope you prove me wrong but now i decide to respect his memory
L.O.V.E to all of you!
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The real Dr Murray please stand UP!!!!! 8-) 8-)
Michael is a GENIUS, no doubt about it!!!!
The show is on guys!!!!
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As I said before My bf knows Dr Murray. they are both doctors
Of course Dr Murray is real and was in court yesterday
Many of my friends knew Michael but I never met him (unfortunately)
Anyway i was thinking yesterday and Michael would never want anyone to go through what he went throught with the child molestation charges. That almost killed him and yes he started taking medication there
Michael had a wonderful heart and it is not like him to have an innocent man take the blame (if he had faked his death)
garbage bins do not mean anything... the lights at the arena and funeral... the same.. of course normal, people in Hollywwod all use the same equipment. like cameras same thing there is only The red, arriflex or panavision, films Kodak or Fuji.. but Kodak is used 99% of the time
I know all the aspect of the movie industry and have been in hundreds of rehearsals and nothing was strange...
The family not crying at staples.. yes i did jugde them because i was crying my eyes out but then i remembered yesterday when i lost a very close family member i cried seeing the coffin but at the ceremony i was just in shock and just was going throught the motions
yes I KOW one fact i kept putting on his board which is 100 % real is that Conrad Murray is the real person you saw in court.. you would really think that a fake man would appear in court???
But people do not always want to see or accept the truth it seems.. they prefer speculations... and it is starting again!!!
I now realized i was in denial for loosing Michael... MIchael Jackson was bigger then life it seemed... I am now accepting that he is gone
If you a true fan you know Michael's heart
I hope you find you are searching.... Believe me I would love if I were wrong...I hope you prove me wrong but now i decide to respect his memory
L.O.V.E to all of you!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Hi everyone
Ever since I saw the white CM on, Photobucket, I think, the first time his photo was posted he looked VERY fimiliar to me.
He looks like an actor to me, but it is someone who didn't play a very big role, so I can't remember the actor's name or the movie.
Maybe he is the actor, maybe he is just family? Does anyone remember someone who looks like him?
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uhh how about BOW
maybe thats why her name is blackorwhite-BOW
She wrote that a lot will come but CM will not be charged. So lets wait and see. I never believed in BOW and I still don´t believe her.
SONY: BeLIEve
no, bow said murray wouldn't be charged last friday .. and she was right .. she didnt say he would never be charged ..she said he wouldn't go to prison ..they are two different things .. she has also been saying for awhile now ..that April would be important .. and Murray is to be back in court on April 5.. easter monday
I do not believe in BOW but my memory is very good and I remember that she wrote (it was long time ago and I do not read her posts since weeks) that Murray will not be charged! This is the information I remember reading written by her and decided that I do not believe in anything she writes...
well I read her everyday .. and I can tell you that your wrong
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And in this court they said and accepted that Murray has no criminal reccord, and we saw this thing about domestic violence...
This police photo of him being fake match again the theory that Murray might play MJ role.
This is not it at all.
At least by now.
I remeber that he had gbh didnt he
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Criminal and domestic violence is different!!!
It is all so funny
My friend is a friend of Murray and you guys still go on talking about an actor or a white guy
this is becoming hilarious
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Its getting funnier and funnier!! :lol: GO MICHAEL!!
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You people are so great i was going mad last night believing that Michael was gone went to work so sad but thinking thinking all the time this does not add up go back and here I am and I see this only when Murray goes to jail for a long time will I believe but wich Murray I look at the Murray and feel so sorry for him he looks so scared but in my heart I know it is an act
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As I said before My bf knows Dr Murray. they are both doctors
Of course Dr Murray is real and was in court yesterday
Many of my friends knew Michael but I never met him (unfortunately)
Anyway i was thinking yesterday and Michael would never want anyone to go through what he went throught with the child molestation charges. That almost killed him and yes he started taking medication there
Michael had a wonderful heart and it is not like him to have an innocent man take the blame (if he had faked his death)
garbage bins do not mean anything... the lights at the arena and funeral... the same.. of course normal, people in Hollywwod all use the same equipment. like cameras same thing there is only The red, arriflex or panavision, films Kodak or Fuji.. but Kodak is used 99% of the time
I know all the aspect of the movie industry and have been in hundreds of rehearsals and nothing was strange...
The family not crying at staples.. yes i did jugde them because i was crying my eyes out but then i remembered yesterday when i lost a very close family member i cried seeing the coffin but at the ceremony i was just in shock and just was going throught the motions
yes I KOW one fact i kept putting on his board which is 100 % real is that Conrad Murray is the real person you saw in court.. you would really think that a fake man would appear in court???
But people do not always want to see or accept the truth it seems.. they prefer speculations... and it is starting again!!!
I now realized i was in denial for loosing Michael... MIchael Jackson was bigger then life it seemed... I am now accepting that he is gone
If you a true fan you know Michael's heart
I hope you find you are searching.... Believe me I would love if I were wrong...I hope you prove me wrong but now i decide to respect his memory
L.O.V.E to all of you!
Seems like we here prefer speculation and keep our selfs wondering about the TRUTH, but the truth seems to be that we here cannot accept the TRUTH...........
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Hi everyone
Ever since I saw the white CM on, Photobucket, I think, the first time his photo was posted he looked VERY fimiliar to me.
He looks like an actor to me, but it is someone who didn't play a very big role, so I can't remember the actor's name or the movie.
Maybe he is the actor, maybe he is just family? Does anyone remember someone who looks like him?
Hi everyone, I just joined but have been lurking for a few months. :)
LLJ, I think I know the actor you are thinking about. The white Conrad Murray looks a lot like David Morse.
http://images.google.com/images?client= ... CCkQsAQwAw (http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=david+morse&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=M49xS8-cD4zMsgPn5OyiDA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCkQsAQwAw)
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Criminal and domestic violence is different!!!
It is all so funny
My friend is a friend of Murray and you guys still go on talking about an actor or a white guy
this is becoming hilarious
I hope you realise everyone here is just trying to know the truth
but you might be great help!
Do you mind clearing up all the rumors about him?
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Hi Gardenrose and welcome!
You are quite right I was referring to David, to me, 'The white CM' really looks like him.
Thanks!!!
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As I said before My bf knows Dr Murray. they are both doctors
Of course Dr Murray is real and was in court yesterday
Many of my friends knew Michael but I never met him (unfortunately)
Anyway i was thinking yesterday and Michael would never want anyone to go through what he went throught with the child molestation charges. That almost killed him and yes he started taking medication there
Michael had a wonderful heart and it is not like him to have an innocent man take the blame (if he had faked his death)
garbage bins do not mean anything... the lights at the arena and funeral... the same.. of course normal, people in Hollywwod all use the same equipment. like cameras same thing there is only The red, arriflex or panavision, films Kodak or Fuji.. but Kodak is used 99% of the time
I know all the aspect of the movie industry and have been in hundreds of rehearsals and nothing was strange...
The family not crying at staples.. yes i did jugde them because i was crying my eyes out but then i remembered yesterday when i lost a very close family member i cried seeing the coffin but at the ceremony i was just in shock and just was going throught the motions
yes I KOW one fact i kept putting on his board which is 100 % real is that Conrad Murray is the real person you saw in court.. you would really think that a fake man would appear in court???
But people do not always want to see or accept the truth it seems.. they prefer speculations... and it is starting again!!!
I now realized i was in denial for loosing Michael... MIchael Jackson was bigger then life it seemed... I am now accepting that he is gone
If you a true fan you know Michael's heart
I hope you find you are searching.... Believe me I would love if I were wrong...I hope you prove me wrong but now i decide to respect his memory
L.O.V.E to all of you!
I understand what you are saying, I too work in the industry and I too have many close ties with MJ and people who worked for him. Yes that was the real CM in the courtroom. He was fingerprinted and it's him. But as for MJ being dead, I wouldn't be so sure. The hoax is based on more than trash cans and lights. It's the strange case of MJ allowing this doctor to give him that drug without the proper equiptment. Yes, MJ did use the drug on tour a few years ago, but it was administered by an anatheolgist (sp). So MJ knew exactly what kind of monitoring he needed, yet he let CM give him the drug anyway. And then there is the constant talk from Latoya and Joe, saying that MJ knew someone was trying to kill him and he told his mother, his sister, his children and even the Chef,yet he allowed this man who he knew for only a short time give him a drug that he knew could kill him. The nurse who came to his house told him to his face that he could die, yet he went ahead and did it anyway. I don't think so. I remember that video of MJ talking about Sony and he said something to the effect of "They didn't count on this artist out thinking them". Well I think MJ out thought the people who wanted to kill him. Somebody helped him and not the people who we think helped him, but someone in the shadows.
And the autopsy report is real, yes it is real for someone who had the same tats as MJ and the same chin and the same nose. All of which can and have been duplicated before by countless MJ doubles. But instead of looking for those things that made that body look like MJ, look for the things that we know are not MJ. Like the scar on his scalp from the pepsi incident, or the spider bite scar, or the feet problem that MJ had.
I think MJ is alive and he had no choice but to leave or he would be killed by the people who are now making lots of money off of him. Remember what Randy and KF have said. There is a clear reason why they are going after the people they are going after.
I could tell you more, like Dave Dave and Randy's keen ability to always be the brother who stands on the side and is quiet. My mother once told me it's the quiet ones who you have to watch.
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Conrad Murray twitterd this
Conrad Murray Please consider that I too am a father, do not judge or condemn me until you have walked in my shoes. Please pray for my family about 8 hours ago
been following him for ages and he as not spoken because he was advised not to than this
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Hi Gardenrose and welcome!
You are quite right I was referring to David, to me, 'The white CM' really looks like him.
Thanks!!!
No problem at all, and thanks for the welcome! :D
This guy is really puzzling, there must be some way to figure out who he is. :geek:
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This guy really looks like "white Murray"...go to galleries and then photos.
http://richardbone.com/ (http://richardbone.com/)
Don't even ask me how I got to that guys website...had something to do with childbyadoption, symbolism, ascensionism...lol. Anyway what do you think, could be him?
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OK so I just noticed this
This Character that is causing confusion , I'll just call him white Murray 4 now
The person sitting beside him and correct me if im wrong is Deepak Chopra MJ's longtime friend . I remember him from MJFanFOREVERAndADAY's video!
Maybe he knows something about who that person really is
I think he has twitter, maybe someone with an account can contact him
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As I said before My bf knows Dr Murray. they are both doctors
Of course Dr Murray is real and was in court yesterday
Many of my friends knew Michael but I never met him (unfortunately)
Anyway i was thinking yesterday and Michael would never want anyone to go through what he went throught with the child molestation charges. That almost killed him and yes he started taking medication there
Michael had a wonderful heart and it is not like him to have an innocent man take the blame (if he had faked his death)
garbage bins do not mean anything... the lights at the arena and funeral... the same.. of course normal, people in Hollywwod all use the same equipment. like cameras same thing there is only The red, arriflex or panavision, films Kodak or Fuji.. but Kodak is used 99% of the time
I know all the aspect of the movie industry and have been in hundreds of rehearsals and nothing was strange...
The family not crying at staples.. yes i did jugde them because i was crying my eyes out but then i remembered yesterday when i lost a very close family member i cried seeing the coffin but at the ceremony i was just in shock and just was going throught the motions
yes I KOW one fact i kept putting on his board which is 100 % real is that Conrad Murray is the real person you saw in court.. you would really think that a fake man would appear in court???
But people do not always want to see or accept the truth it seems.. they prefer speculations... and it is starting again!!!
I now realized i was in denial for loosing Michael... MIchael Jackson was bigger then life it seemed... I am now accepting that he is gone
If you a true fan you know Michael's heart
I hope you find you are searching.... Believe me I would love if I were wrong...I hope you prove me wrong but now i decide to respect his memory
L.O.V.E to all of you!
I understand what you are saying, I too work in the industry and I too have many close ties with MJ and people who worked for him. Yes that was the real CM in the courtroom. He was fingerprinted and it's him. But as for MJ being dead, I wouldn't be so sure. The hoax is based on more than trash cans and lights. It's the strange case of MJ allowing this doctor to give him that drug without the proper equiptment. Yes, MJ did use the drug on tour a few years ago, but it was administered by an anatheolgist (sp). So MJ knew exactly what kind of monitoring he needed, yet he let CM give him the drug anyway. And then there is the constant talk from Latoya and Joe, saying that MJ knew someone was trying to kill him and he told his mother, his sister, his children and even the Chef,yet he allowed this man who he knew for only a short time give him a drug that he knew could kill him. The nurse who came to his house told him to his face that he could die, yet he went ahead and did it anyway. I don't think so. I remember that video of MJ talking about Sony and he said something to the effect of "They didn't count on this artist out thinking them". Well I think MJ out thought the people who wanted to kill him. Somebody helped him and not the people who we think helped him, but someone in the shadows.
And the autopsy report is real, yes it is real for someone who had the same tats as MJ and the same chin and the same nose. All of which can and have been duplicated before by countless MJ doubles. But instead of looking for those things that made that body look like MJ, look for the things that we know are not MJ. Like the scar on his scalp from the pepsi incident, or the spider bite scar, or the feet problem that MJ had.
I think MJ is alive and he had no choice but to leave or he would be killed by the people who are now making lots of money off of him. Remember what Randy and KF have said. There is a clear reason why they are going after the people they are going after.
I could tell you more, like Dave Dave and Randy's keen ability to always be the brother who stands on the side and is quiet. My mother once told me it's the quiet ones who you have to watch.
I like your theory because I for one can't just ignore what Hoaxornot has posted. I'm still not sure what to believe though. I've looked through the AR and it's so long and detailed! If this was someone else's AR how do we explain the vitiligo? Coincidence? I'm not definitely not dismissing that CM is real but who is this other guy? You guys actually know people that know Michael? I'm glad they're not my friends because I'd be a pain in the butt asking questions, :lol: :lol: The closest I've ever been to Michael (physically) is a 3 h train ride away, one time! And I was too young to see him then :x
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"]ok wtf? there's 2 of the damn guys?
with the same name!!
so the white one is real? and the black one is fake?
:shock: :!: :shock: :?: :shock: :idea: :shock:
i keep saying this in my head...and i know its not in the right order but....do u see it like this too?
the begining:
Michael Jackson announces this is it tour
He gets his stuff together and hires the white dr.Murray as a doctor
and then he hired the black dr. Murray as a pawn for his master plan?
As time moves on he gets down to business
he gets his dancers and k.o shoots this is it
june 25th mj supposably has a cardiac arrest from black dr. Murray giving him that profol (sp)
While someone? or sumthing! is getting checked out by the paramedics after awhile mj is nethier
a) watching as the ambulance leaves at his home and gets away to lax which got shut down
OR
b) was the person in the ambulance and slipped into a get away car at the hospital?
Mj is pronounced gone hours later
the family gathers stuff from the house for mj n the kids
the whole will and guardian court things
after awhile
they have a private viewing before the memorial
they have the memorial which seems staged
they have the funeral which the this is it dancers as ushers
karen releases the tomb pics
everybody on larry king show
the whole liz taylor and mj kids n him at horror fest thing
the kids get a bigger allowance out of no where
the jackson get their show about jermaine's dream
joe wants a allowance and doesnt get one :lol: (sorry i still find it funny lol)
joe and the family demands for the files on mj and his death
finally of family dynasty: they visit the wrong forest lawn? but says its for security reasons
earth song michael jackson tribute with the kids apperance at the grammys (which seems like a way for mj to stay in the headlines along with his kids)
the announcement we are the world is being re-recorded
couple days before dr.murray goes to court he visits forrest lawn
dr.murray gets arrested while the real dr.murray lays low in the background
the fake death certificates n autopsy are sent to tmz the same day
im sorry maybe its me? but do u smell something fishy around these cases and clues?
now if i have a feeling we gonna hear alot more about this white dr.murray :shock:
Nice!!! :D :D :D
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http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html
this is Matthew Alford
The Houston attorney
that works with Murrays lawyers.
its not the same guy who was in the court sitting behind da troot murray.
ok, went looking for our "white" murray in other videos with our "black" murray
he's in the video of the child support hearing from last year sittting against the wall to "black" murrays left , taking notes , wearing a bow tie (hey maybe he's that reporter BOW lol :D )
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... ce7c0ee18c (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e0470575-cad1-469e-8ae5-4cce7c0ee18c)
umm could anyone of you understand what the white "Murray" said as he stood up? It would be interesting
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Can someone explain - if real Murray is white and appears with Black Murray at court appearances,why doesn't White Murray just deal with the whole thing - what's the point of two Murrays joined at the hip?
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http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html
this is Matthew Alford
The Houston attorney
that works with Murrays lawyers.
its not the same guy who was in the court sitting behind da troot murray.
ok, went looking for our "white" murray in other videos with our "black" murray
he's in the video of the child support hearing from last year sittting against the wall to "black" murrays left , taking notes , wearing a bow tie (hey maybe he's that reporter BOW lol :D )
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... ce7c0ee18c (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e0470575-cad1-469e-8ae5-4cce7c0ee18c)
umm could anyone of you understand what the white "Murray" said as he stood up? It would be interesting
I believe he says he is partner with Ed Chernoff out of Houson Texas.
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Ok, so, the white Murray was at this fake money trial.
I though to check it out yesterday, but I was really tired.
So THANKS a lot mjsweety!
We are a big team, and it´s nice to see how, sometimes, some of us come to the same conclusion without speaking each other...
I´m going to embed this here, it´s not the full footage, but can be embeded.
I´ll try to find a full one.
So we can see the fake money, and our beloved white Murray together ;).
[youtube:13jel7il]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZjGXq7xSk4&feature=related[/youtube:13jel7il]
Some people here say that the White Murray is another doctor.
Ok, then why the B Murray needs him at child support trial?
No sense, sorry.
Some people say that he is in Murray´s lawyer team, but the first pic is from 6/28/2009.
Is it that Murray already had a lawyer TEAM this day?
For those who say that are friend of a friend...
I hope you´ll understand that it is not an authority argument for the rest of us, shall you?
Oh yes, I forgot, I´ve been Mike´s girlfriend for 4 years, and I splitted because it was me or Bubbles, and Mike took Bubbles... ;) Sorry, sorry, just joking to illustrate.
For those who say that work in the industry. Also do I, and I see odd things every where, that are not a lighting or a tripod. From this point of view, if this is an hoax, it is really coherent (no dolly, nor crane, nor anyother sophisticated camera stuff in This Is It blah blah) Of course, it is normal that people who don´t understand those things wonder about it. I´ll support as much as I can in this kind of technnical things.
By the way, according to this Black Murray was acquited before:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1
So we can discard about the inconsistences of the bail out...
Rolling, rolling...
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http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html
this is Matthew Alford
The Houston attorney
that works with Murrays lawyers.
its not the same guy who was in the court sitting behind da troot murray.
ok, went looking for our "white" murray in other videos with our "black" murray
he's in the video of the child support hearing from last year sittting against the wall to "black" murrays left , taking notes , wearing a bow tie (hey maybe he's that reporter BOW lol :D )
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... ce7c0ee18c (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e0470575-cad1-469e-8ae5-4cce7c0ee18c)
umm could anyone of you understand what the white "Murray" said as he stood up? It would be interesting
I believe he says he is partner with Ed Chernoff out of Houson Texas.
Ah okay, thank you. Sometimes it's really hard to understand the texans :D
So didn't say his name
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Hi guys,
im confused. First, i kept hearing that Murray was an actor living in Las Vegas with his wife, and that only his wife was a doctor. The poeple who were saying this had been reseraching, and i saw videos where they screened everything they googled to come to the fact that Murray was not his real name, but that as an actor he had played in a soap...in which there was an episode called "the strange life of doctor Murray" or smth like that.This episode was supposed to be about an innocent doctor being accused for smth he had not done. OK
Now, all of a sudden, Murray is a real doctor but not the black one we know. OK.
Some poeple here are apparently very sure that the black Murray is real because they have relatives who know him. OK.
Could someone please tell me where is the truth? Or at least, what is the theory that makes sense for us beLIEvers?
I always thought that TMZ was covering MJ on this hoax, until i started reading more and more poeple saying they were BS. So i started to wonder about it... What if TMZ was using the fact that some poeple beliebe MJ is alive to make their own advertisment? You know what I mean? The opportunity could be great for them to become more successful by manipulating us!!!!! This wouldnt mean that MJ is dead but could TMZ be manipulating us???????? :?:
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This is another picture of Alford, Chernoff & Stradley
[attachment=0:3dag3ik0]SCA.jpg[/attachment:3dag3ik0]
Alford (left) does look a bit like the 'White Murray' and it would make sense that he would be in court, considering his attorney parter Ed Chernoff is representing Murray. He also has the bow-tie!
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For me, he does not look like the White man sitting behind murray. absolutely not
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BabyShine all of this you say, may be or not.
Until the moment we/you find something has been proven may be, or not.
So pleeease, sweety, don´t ask other people for the truth, non of us know.
Even who knows Michael doesn´t know everthing, or do you know everything about your very close people?
My advice is to find out your own, listen to your heart and the evidences (when you´re sure there´s one).
All of us must take into account the real meaning of the word KNOW.
L.O.V.E.
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somekindofdesign wrote:
By the way, according to this Black Murray was acquited before:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Mic ... 286&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1)
what is with that date of birth he's like six years too young!!
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Yes mjsweety. That was commented on the original thread.
According to this he is 50 now (next week 51 woou!),
but according to Mike´s case he is 56 (I think)...
So or this old reccord is not true, or...
If this old reccord is not true, who put it there and what for?
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can one of us ask tmz who the white guy is
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How can ABC News say he is 50 years old, and then that he´s 56?
50:
July 29, 2009
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1
56:
Nov. 23, 2009
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/jackson-doc-conrad-murray-treating-patients/story?id=9154067
One thing for sure... Press R´ Nuts
And pastecopy a lot :lol:
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I´ve found this link to the original dissappeared pic of W Murray:
http://www.mixx.com/stories/10614505/michael_jackson_s_dr_conrad_robert_murray_houston_texas_picture_5055926
It´s still in the cache of this index, so it proves it existed.
(I saw it and I KNOW it did, just for the people who didn´t)
I went there and found this:
http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/entertainment/michael-jackson-conrad-robert-murray-houston-texas/image/5055926
Nothing to do, a Qatar cycling race.
But it´s weird the url:
http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/entertainment/ (http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/entertainment/)michael-jackson-conrad-robert-murray-houston-texas/image/5055926
???
Mmm
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Hi everyone.
I am new here. i have been lurking for a while and I don't know if this has ever been posted, but something did not sit right with me about Dr Murray yesterday.
It was his date of birth and criminal convictions.
I remember seeing ages ago, a picture of an arrest made a few years back regarding domestic violence.
This is the picture.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1
On this, it says Dr Murray's date of birth is 19 Feb 1954.
Now go back to the "booking" yesterday on TMZ:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/08/dr-conrad-murray-booked-arrested-michael-jackson-arraignment/
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/abc_wn_dr_murray_090729_mn.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2010/02/020810_murray_3.jpg)
The date of birth is now reported as 19th Feb 1959!!!!
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://www.picapp.com/search.aspx?term=michael%20jackson&pageNum=0&cats=
(http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/3/f/d/a/Arraignment_Of_Dr_3487.jpg)
(http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/5/f/5/c/Arraignment_Of_Dr_955c.jpg)
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so obviously this guy is on murrays legal team it was probably just a missprint when they posted the pic... oh well :(
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Ok, so, the white Murray was at this fake money trial.
I though to check it out yesterday, but I was really tired.
So THANKS a lot mjsweety!
We are a big team, and it´s nice to see how, sometimes, some of us come to the same conclusion without speaking each other...
I´m going to embed this here, it´s not the full footage, but can be embeded.
I´ll try to find a full one.
So we can see the fake money, and our beloved white Murray together ;).
[youtube:3tmx6vrq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZjGXq7xSk4&feature=related[/youtube:3tmx6vrq]
Some people here say that the White Murray is another doctor.
Ok, then why the B Murray needs him at child support trial?
No sense, sorry.
Some people say that he is in Murray´s lawyer team, but the first pic is from 6/28/2009.
Is it that Murray already had a lawyer TEAM this day?
For those who say that are friend of a friend...
I hope you´ll understand that it is not an authority argument for the rest of us, shall you?
Oh yes, I forgot, I´ve been Mike´s girlfriend for 4 years, and I splitted because it was me or Bubbles, and Mike took Bubbles... ;) Sorry, sorry, just joking to illustrate.
For those who say that work in the industry. Also do I, and I see odd things every where, that are not a lighting or a tripod. From this point of view, if this is an hoax, it is really coherent (no dolly, nor crane, nor anyother sophisticated camera stuff in This Is It blah blah) Of course, it is normal that people who don´t understand those things wonder about it. I´ll support as much as I can in this kind of technnical things.
By the way, according to this Black Murray was acquited before:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1
So we can discard about the inconsistences of the bail out...
Rolling, rolling...
Does anyone know what this court appearance was in regard to?
It seems strange that is has recently surfaced and includes the same legal team as yesterday.
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Ok, so, the white Murray was at this fake money trial.
I though to check it out yesterday, but I was really tired.
So THANKS a lot mjsweety!
We are a big team, and it´s nice to see how, sometimes, some of us come to the same conclusion without speaking each other...
I´m going to embed this here, it´s not the full footage, but can be embeded.
I´ll try to find a full one.
So we can see the fake money, and our beloved white Murray together ;).
[youtube:12412tyf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZjGXq7xSk4&feature=related[/youtube:12412tyf]
Some people here say that the White Murray is another doctor.
Ok, then why the B Murray needs him at child support trial?
No sense, sorry.
Some people say that he is in Murray´s lawyer team, but the first pic is from 6/28/2009.
Is it that Murray already had a lawyer TEAM this day?
For those who say that are friend of a friend...
I hope you´ll understand that it is not an authority argument for the rest of us, shall you?
Oh yes, I forgot, I´ve been Mike´s girlfriend for 4 years, and I splitted because it was me or Bubbles, and Mike took Bubbles... ;) Sorry, sorry, just joking to illustrate.
For those who say that work in the industry. Also do I, and I see odd things every where, that are not a lighting or a tripod. From this point of view, if this is an hoax, it is really coherent (no dolly, nor crane, nor anyother sophisticated camera stuff in This Is It blah blah) Of course, it is normal that people who don´t understand those things wonder about it. I´ll support as much as I can in this kind of technnical things.
By the way, according to this Black Murray was acquited before:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1
So we can discard about the inconsistences of the bail out...
Rolling, rolling...
Does anyone know what this court appearance was in regard to?
It seems strange that is has recently surfaced and includes the same legal team as yesterday.
This was for his child supoprt case a few weeks back...
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Here is another confirmation of the date of birth for Dr Murray.
This is the birth certificate of the love child of Nicole alvarez.
This states his date of birth is February 19th 1953.
http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/birthcert.pdf
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http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010 ... gnment.cnn (http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010/02/09/rowlands.murray.arraignment.cnn)
I was trying to post the courtroom picture out of the video from yesterday but am having problems. Doesn't that look like a yellow rag doll to the right of the judge? Isn't that where the witnesses usually sit?
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WOAH!!! :o That's sooo weird. And very interesting.
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Is the real Murray standing up?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0128777a3efe970c-pi)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/jacksons-personal-physician-pleads-not-guilty-to-charge-of-involuntary-manslaughter.html
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just found this thread (thanks to "heartbreaker") and "need" it in my "view your post"-list, sorry - but this is so ABSOLUTE FANTASTIC!!! And now I'm going to read all 6 sites ;)
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The Texas Medical Board has verified that the birth year of Robert Conrad Murray who practices medicine in Houston, Texas is 1958.
Proof here...
http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/ ... 75&Type=LP (http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/Phys_ReportVerif.asp?ID_NUM=481975&Type=LP)
The man who was in court has a date of birth of 02/19/53 as stated by the DA.
The driver's license of the Conrad Murray who has a prior record says 02/19/59.
Will the real Conrad Robert Murray please stand up along with the real Michael Jackson and SAVE US ALL from this insanity! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Will the real Conrad Robert Murray please stand up along with the real Michael Jackson and SAVE US ALL from this insanity! :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL Seriously! :lol:
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Hi everyone.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2010/02/020810_murray_3.jpg)
Lol, look at the arrest time: 1420, 1+4+2+0= 7
And the booking time: 1438: 1+4+3+8= 16, 1+6= 7
aint that fun.
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I know a lot of you don't believe BOW and that't your right but I still do. I remeber she stated GH doesn't refer to a person. Some time later she wrote GH=Greatest Hits. Black or White is on greatest hits cd.
I was thinking the greatest hits CD (=History) contains a booklet called Book I (like there was supposed to be a book II coming someday). Past, present and future.
So the past and present is in it but....where is the future? Is this it?
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the # 7 thing is really starting to creep me out now. There's too many! They're everywhere...
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the real dr Murray is NOT born in the U.S if you had followed my post you would know.. he became a U.S citizen
I keep on repeating myself
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Well then the question becomes Who the heck is the white guy?!
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Wow, I love this! LOL This is most definitely the greatest show on Earth!
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OMG maybe they are twins :!: :? :? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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there was a VERY GOOD VIDEO about Dr Murray about all his places he worked and about all his Birthdays...i think she got like 4 birthdays lol...but umm yeah let me go find it and i will post it on here so everyone can watch it
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ok guys please go to this thread made by another member and watch those videos posted about Murray...they have some very interesting facts in those videos that will have your head spinning!!
here is the link
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4245 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4245)
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Here he is in this video, sitting next to the blond lady.
At 1:12 he says: "Same here your honour, represents Dr. Murray in part, Mr Chernoff employer out of Houston Texas."
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... ce7c0ee18c (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=e0470575-cad1-469e-8ae5-4cce7c0ee18c)
Stradely, Cernoff & Alford LLP
I dont see him under Attorney Profiles, so dont know how he fits into the law firm.
http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/Cu ... rneys.html (http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/Custom/Attorneys.html)
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Ok, so, the white Murray was at this fake money trial.
I though to check it out yesterday, but I was really tired.
So THANKS a lot mjsweety!
We are a big team, and it´s nice to see how, sometimes, some of us come to the same conclusion without speaking each other...
I´m going to embed this here, it´s not the full footage, but can be embeded.
I´ll try to find a full one.
So we can see the fake money, and our beloved white Murray together ;).
[youtube:301xlcaf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZjGXq7xSk4&feature=related[/youtube:301xlcaf]
Some people here say that the White Murray is another doctor.
Ok, then why the B Murray needs him at child support trial?
No sense, sorry.
Some people say that he is in Murray´s lawyer team, but the first pic is from 6/28/2009.
Is it that Murray already had a lawyer TEAM this day?
For those who say that are friend of a friend...
I hope you´ll understand that it is not an authority argument for the rest of us, shall you?
Oh yes, I forgot, I´ve been Mike´s girlfriend for 4 years, and I splitted because it was me or Bubbles, and Mike took Bubbles... ;) Sorry, sorry, just joking to illustrate.
For those who say that work in the industry. Also do I, and I see odd things every where, that are not a lighting or a tripod. From this point of view, if this is an hoax, it is really coherent (no dolly, nor crane, nor anyother sophisticated camera stuff in This Is It blah blah) Of course, it is normal that people who don´t understand those things wonder about it. I´ll support as much as I can in this kind of technnical things.
By the way, according to this Black Murray was acquited before:
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8199286&page=1
So we can discard about the inconsistences of the bail out...
Rolling, rolling...
Does anyone know what this court appearance was in regard to?
It seems strange that is has recently surfaced and includes the same legal team as yesterday.
This was for his child supoprt case a few weeks back...
Thanks very much. :)
This has intrigued me for a couple of days. Very interesting.. that he had the same legal team then aswell as now. :roll:
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Ok now this is a trip, I knew this MJ dead BS was just that BS Bravo Michael and remember the autopsy was for Michael Joseph Jackson didnt Michael change his name to Michael Joe Jackson? Maybe the reason for 2 Conrad Murrays same name diff people so Autopsy for Michael Joseph means squat right?
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Hee heeee
Dr. Murray Kaplan (Character)
from The Doctor (1991)
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0075010/
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[youtube:1j4v9yax]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9j8q-P9sfU[/youtube:1j4v9yax]
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WOOOOOOWWWWWW! This is BANANAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! The white dude was THERE in the courtroom????????? What the HEEZY is goin on?????????????? :lol:
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Well well, and now this!!!
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5258
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!! THE OTHER MURRAY WAS THERE :shock: :shock:
THIS HOAX IS A GAME MADE BY A GENIUS... AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! :D
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!! THE OTHER MURRAY WAS THERE :shock: :shock:
THIS HOAX IS A GAME MADE BY A GENIUS... AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! :D
Michael is a genius !
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST CANT BELIEVE IT!!!!!! THE OTHER MURRAY WAS THERE :shock: :shock:
THIS HOAX IS A GAME MADE BY A GENIUS... AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! :D
Michael is a genius !
YESSSS HE IS!!!! AND THE BEST!!
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Look jennyruby your work is in the movies :lol:
[youtube:aaebsdi1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dfprshkx4[/youtube:aaebsdi1]
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My brain has just gone bang so much info it hurts but this is good just to confirm there are two Murrays i know about all the birth dates but this is now getting funny but good
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Soo...does that mean the one we've been seeing is that actor we saw on IMDb? And the real one is...well, this one? Man, this is interesting. xD
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Soo...does that mean the one we've been seeing is that actor we saw on IMDb? And the real one is...well, this one? Man, this is interesting. xD
No, it just means we have to found out who W Murray is...
and that there is a mess around B Murray birthdate :lol: :lol:
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Is the black Murray really his name? I thought he had another name and don't worry you can't arrest someone if they didn't do anything, also read BOW post and she said that tomorrow everything will be more clear well yesterday we were going crazy and we came back today and just let everything sink in and are finding a lot of clues.
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Look jennyruby your work is in the movies :lol:
[youtube:sfdemc5m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dfprshkx4[/youtube:sfdemc5m]
:lol: WHO IS IT !!
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Look jennyruby your work is in the movies :lol:
[youtube:6c9syj6r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dfprshkx4[/youtube:6c9syj6r]
:lol: WHO IS IT !!
Hi Thankyou for making this vid..re; the info I found out about the real murray..Greatly appreciate it very much!
Mjonmymind/pinkshots :)
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oh man. i really think white murray is alford.. with a shaved head.
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fasten your seatbelts !! here we go !! :lol: :lol: continue this great adventure :lol:
And hold onto your hats!(http://i50.tinypic.com/2lmb7e8.jpg)
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Look jennyruby your work is in the movies :lol:
[youtube:is1fyz0e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dfprshkx4[/youtube:is1fyz0e]
:lol: WHO IS IT !!
Wow - we're rubbing shoulders with royalty! I'm so proud...
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Can you please provide a link for the website of the first picture posted? Thankyou.
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Inconclusive.... but interesting:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/davedavecastofcharguy.jpg)
From Dave Dave's MySpace. Caption says: "one of the cast of characters". Lol.
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Is the black Murray really his name? I thought he had another name and don't worry you can't arrest someone if they didn't do anything, also read BOW post and she said that tomorrow everything will be more clear well yesterday we were going crazy and we came back today and just let everything sink in and are finding a lot of clues.
where can I read BOW's post?
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It is plausible that this could be the message that Michael is trying to disseminate.
The black Murray may very well be a representation of MJ's life. Perhaps history is meant to play itself out over again to prove the point?????? Perhaps then BAM.....MJ will reappear to prove his point????? It is hard to know for certain but I am willing to wait it out.
While watching that video, I recalled the movie "Avatar" and how humans controlled their avatar and lived their life out through them. Could it be that Dr. Murray is MJ's avatar???? Just a passing thought that I had to communicate.
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Can you please provide a link for the website of the first picture posted? Thankyou.
Diana, there´s no link, that´s the point. Jenny captured it in its day.
You can find the link to the original now disappeared photo on this thread, but doesn´t work.
eviltwin, you can find everything here (translated and Italian):
http://michaeljacksongold.forumfree.it/?f=8295777
BoW says No 2 Murrays.
And, no, we haven´t found W Murray´s real name, we don´t have a false name either.
We just have a face.
I think W Murray on that photo can be just a misprint from Splash News and he is someone close to B Murray. Or it may be a clue to evidence the hoax, just to stress things that don´t fix. But I don´t think he is the real Murray. That has no sense to me. That would be the hoax within the hoax. If we apply Ockham razor hoax still stands, but I think it´s usefull if we apply it also on the hoax details.
I´m trying to find anything else about this man, it´s easy to find something from a name, but it´s harder with a face. Give time to Google to create something lile Google Face. :lol:
So the only way I found to know further about W Murray (I like this name and we don´t have any other) is checking again the footages and pics of the hoax, to see where has he been. I´ll try to check some.
If you know anyother ways to scan him, please let me know. We have thousands of eyes together!
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It is plausible that this could be the message that Michael is trying to disseminate.
The black Murray may very well be a representation of MJ's life. Perhaps history is meant to play itself out over again to prove the point?????? Perhaps then BAM.....MJ will reappear to prove his point????? It is hard to know for certain but I am willing to wait it out.
While watching that video, I recalled the movie "Avatar" and how humans controlled their avatar and lived their life out through them. Could it be that Dr. Murray is MJ's avatar???? Just a passing thought that I had to communicate.
Yeeeah!
You have just given even more sense to that theory! ;)
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:lol: :lol: Everytime I read the name of this post.. It reminds of a song from Eminem :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I cant help it :lol:
LMAO! :lol: (http://i50.tinypic.com/2lmb7e8.jpg) Michael owns the rights to this song too!
[youtube:222kcjxm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfmRgoSJtU[/youtube:222kcjxm]
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Even though this theory is not original to this thread I’m proud to announce that after reading the entirety of ““Will the Real Conrad Murray Please Stand Up”” I personally vote this to be the BEST teamwork action, hoax investigation, ending in unanimous conclusion thread of the day Feb. 9, 2010.
On behalf of Michael and his children’s absence and in order of equality I present honorable mention to the participants………….
jennyruby – Best challenging topic, Leader of the pack, Best You Tube contribution (mjdhor channel) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dfprshkx4 and Best MJ background song “Who Is It”. I really needed to hear that one - thanks jennyruby !
somekindofsign – Best hint for realization of clues, Most info links and Best redirect to another topic “video Murray abandoned strange !!!” a post by Mumof3 (see below)
mumof3 – Overall best link to video by Randy Swilley and a Murray twitter.
Great sharing, thanks !
RandySwilley – “Best On The Scene Hoax Investigation“ video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT0yQFdKY9k
You Tube channel Randy Swilley. Bravo Randy !
Chance -– Best find for old evidence review credit to pinkshiots aka Mjonmymind page 3.
i_needYoU -– best redirect to topic “What’s Up Doc” ( part2added )
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=4245
a post by nevernevernever, of two videos by MJJ20Girl You Tube channel
all about Conrad Murray’s medical practice history. EXCELLENT work !
SIMPLY – [mj] -– Best accounting list of events to prove hoax
mjalive999 – For sharing the best found stupid commercial video of Matthew B. Alford embedded on page 9. OMG !!!
Shout – Most thought provoking comments
CrazyBanana – Sexiest photo of Michael (ooo that finger thingie ooo)
Voiceforthesilent – Best link to NEWEST clue proving fake courtroom.
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010 ... gnment.cnn
"I was trying to post the courtroom picture out of the video from yesterday but am having problems. Doesn't that look like a yellow rag doll to the right of the judge? Isn't that where the witnesses usually sit?
HappyFeet – Best question of who the Hoax Cast is, page 2
Hoaxornot – Most compassionate comment about Michael, page 5
“Anyway i was thinking yesterday and Michael would never want anyone to go through what he went throught with the child molestation charges. That almost killed him and yes he started taking medication there. Michael had a wonderful heart and it is not like him to have an innocent man take the blame (if he had faked his death).”
forevertheking – Most inspiring hope…
I remember that video of MJ talking about Sony and he said something to the effect of "They didn't count on this artist out thinking them". Well I think MJ out thought the people who wanted to kill him. Somebody helped him and not the people who we think helped him, but someone in the shadows.
lovemjforeverandever – Best lead to Conrad Murray’s 4 birth dates
http://reg.tmb.state.tx.us/OnLineVerif/ ... 75&Type=LP but an hour after using this link it became broken. Can you find out why that is ?
LSK – Best find of new Cast Character – the other Dr Murray, in courtroom.
I've just looked through the court footage TMZ and there is a guy behind Murray's lawyer that looks like well, Murray! I can't find the actual still of him smiling though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnjqa4c0oH4 you'll need to freeze frame
around 6:41 look behind the guard.
loyalfan -- WAS THE FOOTAGE WE WERE SHOWN OF INSIDE THE COURTROOM........REALLY TRUE???...IS THAT JUDGE A REAL JUDGE???......WAS IT ALL PRE FILMED????.....DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT JUDGE?????
That judge is a Judge Judy wanna be and who knows with TMZ behind the camera.
i_needYoU -- SOMEONE PLEASE HELP AND EXPLAIN TO ME HOW MICHAEL COULD HAVE PULLED THIS OFF...THE MORE RESEARCH I DO NOW JUST POINTS TO THE GOVERNMENT JUST KILLING OUR LOVED ONE SERIOUSLY!!!! I NEED HELP HELP
karmaknowstruth -- When a writer has a passionate vision, there is a story board lay out consisting of a plot, a Cast of Characters and an orderly Time Line to present the Plot so the movie is Entertaining enough to hold the audience attention. Usually there is a main Theme and Moral to the story. MJ has perfect reason and motive to be using Dr Conrad Murray as a parallel example of himself during his 2005 trials. What we have going on right before our eyes is Michael Jackson, with his long awaited chance to demonstrate without hurting his Cast of Players by proving a point to the World – you cannot condemn an innocent man. It is genius. He is genius. A Master Mind “The Perfect Hoax” Movie Production complete with an award winning Memorial Service and Global investigationforum team as witnesses and who are collecting a million megabytes of “”hard drive”” proof to back up The King Of Pop ! I'm glad to see this forum catching onto the Movie Plot Theory
COMPASSIONATE RECOGNITION to the following members who almost gave up believing but regained faith after participating in this “will the real Conrad Murray please stand up???” thread. Welcome back to the HOAX investigation !
I_needYoU, L.O.V.Eispower, mjmyangelbaby, Kirsche, Cameron
THE JACKSONOLOGIST
beLIEve.........xoxoxo
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um I never stopped believing, but Thank you :D
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Thank you for this award... I know I have no time but I want to give thanks to family who were always there, Mike for his inspiration, all of you at MKHD, and those who now I forget....
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hey, wait a minute!
The man on the BoW TIE?
(http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/3/f/d/a/Arraignment_Of_Dr_3487.jpg)
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gLS0F66nDfBf/610x.jpg)
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Sweet Jesus!!!!!!! :o :o :shock:
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This officially blew my mind. Holy crap. This is insane!
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Is the real Murray standing up?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0128777a3efe970c-pi)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/jacksons-personal-physician-pleads-not-guilty-to-charge-of-involuntary-manslaughter.html
:lol: :lol:
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Can you please provide a link for the website of the first picture posted? Thankyou.
Diana, there´s no link, that´s the point. Jenny captured it in its day.
You can find the link to the original now disappeared photo on this thread, but doesn´t work.
eviltwin, you can find everything here (translated and Italian):
http://michaeljacksongold.forumfree.it/?f=8295777
BoW says No 2 Murrays.
And, no, we haven´t found W Murray´s real name, we don´t have a false name either.
We just have a face.
I think W Murray on that photo can be just a misprint from Splash News and he is someone close to B Murray. Or it may be a clue to evidence the hoax, just to stress things that don´t fix. But I don´t think he is the real Murray. That has no sense to me. That would be the hoax within the hoax. If we apply Ockham razor hoax still stands, but I think it´s usefull if we apply it also on the hoax details.
I´m trying to find anything else about this man, it´s easy to find something from a name, but it´s harder with a face. Give time to Google to create something lile Google Face. :lol:
So the only way I found to know further about W Murray (I like this name and we don´t have any other) is checking again the footages and pics of the hoax, to see where has he been. I´ll try to check some.
If you know anyother ways to scan him, please let me know. We have thousands of eyes together!
I think we have found out "white Murrays" real name: Matthew B. Alford
[youtube:12f8f4kz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9j8q-P9sfU[/youtube:12f8f4kz]
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I would like to thank my family my children I am over whelmed bythat award I just am glad to help and the news keeps coming in it is amazing I just look at cm and something in my heart tells me this is not true i feel sorry for him and i hope he is safe and at the end i want him to come out with MJ to collect his award
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@ karmaknowstruth
Thank you for this beautiful idea.
I think we are really a good team. This is very exciting. Great work to all people out there I hope we will go on like that!!! L.O.V.E.
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:lol: :lol: Everytime I read the name of this post.. It reminds of a song from Eminem :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I cant help it :lol:
LMAO! :lol: (http://i50.tinypic.com/2lmb7e8.jpg) Michael owns the rights to this song too!
[youtube:1bnyiqw1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAfmRgoSJtU[/youtube:1bnyiqw1]
I loved it that if you upset Michael he found a way of sovling it with out being rude or violent it was just whack take that and in a clever way just as he is now I wondered how eminem felt at the grammys after being so cruel to Michael and Michael was the main star well the only star
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Ah, this one?
(http://www.sex-offenses-houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/UploadedImages/Stradley%20Chernoff%20Matt%20Profile%203556104_1.jpg)
:lol: Thank you I was still looking for the guy :lol:
http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/Attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html
Sorry I didn´t get this part, because he is really changed.
And I don´t understand why he has this photo when we know that the disappeared one is newer and better quality... ? And Splash News had it... Don´t understand...
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Even though this theory is not original to this thread I’m proud to announce that after reading the entirety of ““Will the Real Conrad Murray Please Stand Up”” I personally vote this to be the BEST teamwork action, hoax investigation, ending in unanimous conclusion thread of the day Feb. 9, 2010.
On behalf of Michael and his children’s absence and in order of equality I present honorable mention to the participants………….
Voiceforthesilent – Best link to NEWEST clue proving fake courtroom.
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/crime/2010 ... gnment.cnn
"I was trying to post the courtroom picture out of the video from yesterday but am having problems. Doesn't that look like a yellow rag doll to the right of the judge? Isn't that where the witnesses usually sit?
Awe shucks (runs on stage...bows twice....scurries off stage). Thanks!
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thanks neversaynever.. but the credit goes to pinkshots/mjonmymind!
Thankyou for telling the forum about my find and the contact Ive made via email to these people.
Ive again sent them a email...asking them why they lied to me, and you can guess the rest!!
Still waiting for a please explain!!! To the person who started this post, if you come across
research that was done by another person, please give them the true credit for finding it
like Chance has done here on this forum for myself!!
Thanks Guys! MJONMYMIND/ Pinkshots
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What are you talking about?
jennyruby was the first person to see that.
Even the screen shot is from his/her computer...!
Nobody have it nowadays but he/her...
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What are you talking about?
jennyruby was the first person to see that.
Even the screen shot is from his/her computer...!
Nobody have it nowadays but he/her...
I think you may want to re check that with Chance sorry!
the screen shot of the email is from myself!! which was copied from another forum
then the news was posted here after
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Oops! Sorry.
I asked jennyruby and said:
i had it saved from the other day
I don´t know who saved it, nor who realized he was at court yesterday.
This is not my business then, and don´t care who goes the credits here to.
Is not that we have a big deal here, I mean, we´re not receiving any award.
I give up the matter. ;)
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A little off topic but if Murray is sentenced and jailed isnt it a good thing, think about it there is only one way he cant go to jail and that is Michael coming back so he has to be arrested unless Michael comes before then just a thought
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That´s what I think it will happen if this is a hoax.
That´s what BoW says.
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i had that screenshot saved from the other day when it was in a thread about this supposed 'white Murray"
I didnt take the screenshot. But i think i got from a thread on here..... this forum. I thought it was important to keep, and sure enough it was. It matched something in court. I think mjalive or mjhoax alive or i cant remember, twittered this as well on Monday. After i posted this up on here.
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Oh wow, I just want to thank and give some big ((((hugs)))) for all the team efforts here. :D Every forum member here is precious. I'd like to especially extend gratitude and great credit to anyone/everyone who has found this extremely strong/important clue so far..This certainly is a great encouragement for me to keep believing...MJ is just out there...alive and kicking!!!! :D
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I agree with u,really thank you all so much for finding out so many interesting facts about Murray,each member of this forum is very smart,thanks again, this is one of the best clues ever.
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I THINK YOU ARE ALL SO AMAZING GUYS.......CAN YOU FEEL THE SHEER STRENGTH THERE IS HERE....WE WONT LET MICHEAL DOWN...WE WILL TOGETHER....WORK IT ALL OUT.......WE ARE SO STRONG AS A TEAM...THANKYOU TO ALL THE HARD WORKERS .........XXXXXXX
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Hi kids, I want to apologize if I made any mistakes crediting any of you. I was up 'till 3am making the notes trying to be accurate.
Now here's a brain teaser, I was watching the Grammy video Mo has in her new Grammy blog, watch it here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php) The camera does shoot the crowd in groups but what caught my attention is the seemingly intentional close up on a man.
Just as the children were up onto the stage the camera panned into the crowd and did a face up close up on a man exactly at 8:42 into the video. In the pic below Who is the guy on the left (still taken from the video?)
The man on the RIGHT is supposedly Matthew Alford pictured at the beginning of this thread while he was at the Murray court hearing Monday. Are these two the same man? Remember that even a guest at the Grammys may wear make up to look good.
Also is that Blonde Lady from the funeral service just to the left of his hat?
When I saw this I about fainted. I don't want to make something of nothing, so please be honest with your opinions.
xoxoxo
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Wow, good work!
Don´t know but quite probable, they are very similar :lol:
That´s what I meant by scanning him back through the hoax´s videos.
To avoid other´s time, I can say I´ve scanned him in TII, O2, and Murray´s police´s raids and backs to work videos without any result.
I could´t see him on the Memorial pics either. But I haven´t scanned the Memorial video yet.
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What do you think about the blonde lady in the back ground to the left of his hat ?
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Hi kids, I want to apologize if I made any mistakes crediting any of you. I was up 'till 3am making the notes trying to be accurate.
Now here's a brain teaser, I was watching the Grammy video Mo has in her new Grammy blog, watch it here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php) The camera does shoot the crowd in groups but what caught my attention is the seemingly intentional close up on a man.
Just as the children were up onto the stage the camera panned into the crowd and did a face up close up on a man exactly at 8:42 into the video. In the pic below Who is the guy on the left (still taken from the video?)
The man on the RIGHT is supposedly Matthew Alford pictured at the beginning of this thread while he was at the Murray court hearing Monday. Are these two the same man? Remember that even a guest at the Grammys may wear make up to look good.
Also is that Blonde Lady from the funeral service just to the left of his hat?
When I saw this I about fainted. I don't want to make something of nothing, so please be honest with your opinions.
xoxoxo
Great find karmaknowstruth! That does look like him, especially the eyes. I also came across something as well, though I am not sure. The designer Alexander McQueen according to TMZ, was found dead today. He looks to me allot like W Murray and this guy in the Grammy audience you found. Janet Jackson did some modeling for him at his gallery opening in May of 2008. He also has different kinds of hats as part of his designs. Here are a couple pictures of him and also links to the TMZ gallery and story.
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/02/77327384_10_full.jpg)
(http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m3/may2008/4/7/E796788E-026B-3226-8BFCA449ACA46864.jpg)
Gallery:
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/remembering_alexander_mcqueen#tab=most_recent
Story:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/11/designer-alexander-mcqueen-dies/
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What do you think about the blonde lady in the back ground to the left of his hat ?
Mmmm... for me she´s not the one, no resemblance.
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can be black murray is only a agent for take care from real murray ? i mean they know michael have millions fans and maybe someone want to kill him...so maybe the black me is only for protect the real murray ? what you think about ?
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Exposing an innocent man to protect another innocent man?
Ockham razor...
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What i understand is:
Splash put by "mistake" a picture of Matthew B. Alford with the name of Dr.Murray
So we had a black or white Murray AND the white Murray wears a BoW Tie....BoW
so can it might be possible that BoW is real and genuine?
woooo this is so freaky confusing.....
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Mmmmm...
BoW may be genuine or not, but I don´t think she is so important to stage all this on her purpose. Take into account also, that BoW appeared much later than the "mistake".
But you have inspired me to say that BOW (the concept) is a big messaje in the whole hoax and, if BoW (Daniela) is genuine, could take or be given that name to help to stress that.
There are to parts of the hoax:
1. The main plot and characters playing in the real life to hoax real things and real people.
I mean Murray, attorneys, family...
2. The characters guiding to the forth broken room, the audience involved, people, us taking part.
I mean TMZ, KO, DD, TIII... BoW would be a part of this.