Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: Sternschen87 on February 06, 2010, 11:46:41 AM
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Mindblowing... Listen to 3:37!!!!! You can hear that it is not CD!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
[youtube:2dymikq7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D78Z_mwfs8[/youtube:2dymikq7]
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Maybe.. Weird for a playback :O
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sorry it sounds like the cd to me
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o OMG OMG OMG That is different from cd guys :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: wow 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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4.42 my plan is different he is singing that bit higher than on cd!!
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It's basically Michael's acapella from the original (as playback) and the band playing live. Remember that artists do more than one take, so even if this is not the take used and mixed on the cd, it is still from the same session, besides, music can be easily manipulated, the key changed to suit the performance etc. You can also see Paul cue the playback at around 3:08-3:12. It is definately not Michael singing live. Sorry.
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but why should Paul anka get one acapella version?
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It's basically Michael's acapella from the original (as playback) and the band playing live. Remember that artists do more than one take, so even if this is not the take used and mixed on the cd, it is still from the same session, besides, music can be easily manipulated, the key changed to suit the performance etc. It is definately not Michael singing live. Sorry.
Yeah I don't think it is MJ singing live but I like how Paul did the whole tribute :)
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3:37
3:47
3:52
4:21
I heard differences at these points... What do you think?
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Thanks, that is a fabulous video, I always have liked Paul Anka and for him to have included MJ in his show is very generous and shows his love for MJ.
Is it LIVE or MEMOREX ???
Now the mission is to find the you tube video artist who posted on here with the backmasking of MJs recording. The recording of Tii from MJ is supposedly the original done with his brothers but MJ took it back into the studio and did some remixing before the Tii usage, which is when he may have added the message that we heard in the back masking. Remember how creepy that was? Are you following me on this?
This recording with Paul needs to be back masked to see if it is live or the recorded version. IMO it DOES sound different. It is much slower for one thing. I hear differences in the way he drops the words.
I'm on it. Be back later............xoxoxo
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It sounds different for sure. It could be just a different recording of it. What I think is weird is that we are seeing a pattern with all his vocals since the "death"..there is AlWAYS something different to make us wonder. Like the spoken part of "Will You Be There", the Grammy tribute, and now this. You'd think the easiest and most logical thing to do would be to use the original recording. It wouldn't make sense for them to search for a different one UNLESS Michael himself is in charge and wanting to choose them as clues to the fans. Nothing else seems to make sense to me.
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thats a good idea to back mask it for the ones that can do that please.
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I just sent an email to Thethisisit1 channel who did the back masking of this song last week. Let's see what opinion we get.
xoxoxo
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What emotion, when Anka announces Michael Jackson! Can you immagine when it'll really happen??? Oh my God.... Michael please, come back soon!!
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i actially prefer this version of it to the CD version :D
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What emotion, when Anka announces Michael Jackson! Can you immagine when it'll really happen??? Oh my God.... Michael please, come back soon!!
I think that's what it's all kind of leading towards. So people won't be so shocked when it does happen. I think you'll be seeing more and more of these "tributes" in the coming months. MJ and Paul Anka...who knew???
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Most of us would be surprized to learn who else welcomed MJ into their lives and who MJ's admirers are. I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship.
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I just listened and I am really,really speechless about what to say, this surely is explainable in many ways, but first of all I am so thrilled to see what Karma learns :!: :idea:
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That was great! Does not sound like the same version to me either.. but they could of played with the tracks.
Wasn't Paul Anka saying that this song was "stolen" from him? Didn't he go to court to get royalities on this song? I doubt this song was part of his set list before. Interesting..... :| He was just here in concert - sorry I missed it.
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3:37
3:47
3:52
4:21
I heard differences at these points... What do you think?
3:37 definetly, I was going to say something about it when I came across your post. I agree 100%, I love that song and listen to it all the time on repeat. :lol: :oops:
But as everyone is saying you can apparently chose to publish any version you would like... as long of course you have another version and the person is dead and cant protest.... :mrgreen: :? :roll:
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Mindblowing... Listen to 3:37!!!!! You can hear that it is not CD!!!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
[youtube:2qgk5w4f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D78Z_mwfs8[/youtube:2qgk5w4f]
That doesn't sound live to me. Tiney. It's probably the version that Mr. Anka and Paul recorded.
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That was great! Does not sound like the same version to me either.. but they could of played with the tracks.
Wasn't Paul Anka saying that this song was "stolen" from him? Didn't he go to court to get royalities on this song? I doubt this song was part of his set list before. Interesting..... :| He was just here in concert - sorry I missed it.
I don't think Paul went to court. Could be wrong on that though. I always wondered about this statement in the press. I never heard that come out of his mouth and always wondered if the press blew that up. Anyway........That song was licencsed through BMI and was a long time ago. It's on their site and was there before any of that hoopla happened. It clearly states PAUL AND MICHAEL AND THEIR RECORD COMPANIES. That's why I always wondered about Paul's statement that Michael stole the song. Plus,Michael doesn't use a pen without leaving a note that he took it. I thought I have found their duel copyright but can't seen to find it now..just Michael's. in his sole name. Really thought I have seen them both together as on BMI. 1984. Anyway, BMI comes with copyright automatically - unless the party requests otherwise. Just letting you know.
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Well I am not an expert but it seems to me it's different from the cd version. It might be acappella, it might be a different take, I don't know. I'm not saying it's Michael singing live, I'm just wondering how on earth Mr Anka could put his hands on a different take from the one Sony released.
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That was great! Does not sound like the same version to me either.. but they could of played with the tracks.
Wasn't Paul Anka saying that this song was "stolen" from him? Didn't he go to court to get royalities on this song? I doubt this song was part of his set list before. Interesting..... :| He was just here in concert - sorry I missed it.
I don't think Paul went to court. Could be wrong on that though. I always wondered about this statement in the press. I never heard that come out of his mouth and always wondered if the press blew that up. Anyway........That song was licencsed through BMI and was a long time ago. It's on their site and was there before any of that hoopla happened. It clearly states PAUL AND MICHAEL AND THEIR RECORD COMPANIES. That's why I always wondered about Paul's statement that Michael stole the song. Plus,Michael doesn't use a pen without leaving a note that he took it. I thought I have found their duel copyright but can't seen to find it now..just Michael's. in his sole name. Really thought I have seen them both together as on BMI. 1984. Anyway, BMI comes with copyright automatically - unless the party requests otherwise. Just letting you know.
Thank you for answering that. Of course, the media got hold of it and made it all "MJ stole the song". Which like you said, is not something he would do. But I didn't hear anymore about it and now Paul is singing it in concert.
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MJ performance here sounds different from original version from CD.
But cannot say whether it is live performance or something wrong with recording?? :roll: :?:
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Most of us would be surprized to learn who else welcomed MJ into their lives and who MJ's admirers are. I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship.
What do you mean "I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship" :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Most of us would be surprized to learn who else welcomed MJ into their lives and who MJ's admirers are. I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship.
What do you mean "I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship" :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
Yes, sorry, I dont understand either what you mean. Could you clear it up please?
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I don't think Paul went to court. Could be wrong on that though. I always wondered about this statement in the press. I never heard that come out of his mouth and always wondered if the press blew that up. Anyway........That song was licencsed through BMI and was a long time ago. It's on their site and was there before any of that hoopla happened. It clearly states PAUL AND MICHAEL AND THEIR RECORD COMPANIES. That's why I always wondered about Paul's statement that Michael stole the song. Plus,Michael doesn't use a pen without leaving a note that he took it. I thought I have found their duel copyright but can't seen to find it now..just Michael's. in his sole name. Really thought I have seen them both together as on BMI. 1984. Anyway, BMI comes with copyright automatically - unless the party requests otherwise. Just letting you know.
Just incase your intrested the Information about the copyright is as follows
- The song was created in 1980 -
The first registration of the song was 1983-08-08, under the title I Never Heard - Words and music: Michael Joe Jackson & Paul Anka, Copyright Claimants: Mijac Music & Paulanne Music, Inc. (This was 1 page of lead sheet, not a recording)
However,
On 1984-11-16 Michael submitted copyright information for a sound cassette recording of a song entitled "This Is It" - also created in 1980, but with Words and music: Michael Jackson, Copyright Claimant: Mijca Music
Then,
On 1991-02-20 A New registration was filed, for a song entitled I Never Heard but this time with the creation date being 1990 (so this could and probably means they rewrote the song changing it's words and music by at least 64%). Words and music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson, Copyright Claimants: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music - (The basis of this claim was a change in words and music)
So there has only been one claim to a song entitled This Is It written by Michael Jackson and it is registered to one Michael Jackson, there was no new claim filed after Michael's recording in 1984 for this song under this title written by him as far as can be seen.
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i actially prefer this version of it to the CD version :D
yeah same!! :D
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karmaknowstruth wrote:Most of us would be surprized to learn who else welcomed MJ into their lives and who MJ's admirers are. I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship.
Oh, terribly sorry I didn't proof read well enough. Meant to say He was extremely respected....
Also I had sent a not to Thethisisit1 youtuber requesting an opinion if MJ was singing live with Paul Anka during Paul's concert. This person did a backmasking of the song Tii and found a message MJ had put in while remixing the original song. I wanted to know if the paul anka concert version of MJ singing was prerecorded or live. Here's the link to hearing the Tii backmasking:
Remember it was creepy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98IdLKSGnc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98IdLKSGnc)
This is the reply from: Thethisisit1 youtuber
Re: need opinion w/new clues
well i don"t know if mj was singing live,but its defo not the same singing here as we hear on the cd.as mj pronounces the words totally different and has added more uhhhs to the live one. So its not the recording of the cd being used thats for sure.
and yeah maybe paul did use the old acapella but as far as im aware it was never recorded and mj changed the lyrics to use in o9 so im really not sure....but Paul sings the old version where mj sings the new,,so it does seem odd...my audiocity program is messing up but once it is ok i will backmask but i don"t think i will be able to tell if it was live but i will see..
The more opinions the better right?
xoxoxo
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Forgot to mention I Paul Anka was a guest on "The View" awhile back and he said that MJ must have made off with the original tape after they recorded it. Paul had not even missed it until he heard MJ using it for the Tii show. Anka said he had no problem with it being used for Michael's Tii movie. There was no lawsuit action taken.
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Wow, very lively performance!! I'm really missing that Mikeys voice..I swear! :cry:
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Well I am not an expert but it seems to me it's different from the cd version. It might be acappella, it might be a different take, I don't know. I'm not saying it's Michael singing live, I'm just wondering how on earth Mr Anka could put his hands on a different take from the one Sony released.
The same what I thought about....
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karmaknowstruth wrote:Most of us would be surprized to learn who else welcomed MJ into their lives and who MJ's admirers are. I was extremely respected in the music industry fellowship.
Oh, terribly sorry I didn't proof read well enough. Meant to say He was extremely respected....
Also I had sent a not to Thethisisit1 youtuber requesting an opinion if MJ was singing live with Paul Anka during Paul's concert. This person did a backmasking of the song Tii and found a message MJ had put in while remixing the original song. I wanted to know if the paul anka concert version of MJ singing was prerecorded or live. Here's the link to hearing the Tii backmasking:
Remember it was creepy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98IdLKSGnc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M98IdLKSGnc)
This is the reply from: Thethisisit1 youtuber
Re: need opinion w/new clues
well i don"t know if mj was singing live,but its defo not the same singing here as we hear on the cd.as mj pronounces the words totally different and has added more uhhhs to the live one. So its not the recording of the cd being used thats for sure.
and yeah maybe paul did use the old acapella but as far as im aware it was never recorded and mj changed the lyrics to use in o9 so im really not sure....but Paul sings the old version where mj sings the new,,so it does seem odd...my audiocity program is messing up but once it is ok i will backmask but i don"t think i will be able to tell if it was live but i will see..
The more opinions the better right?
xoxoxo
Great Job!!!!
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OK now this is weird 'cause I just reversed the song and the message is the same Paul's part is much slower so you can't understand what he says much but I think it's the same message and I think that it's not MJ singing live :?
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MJsFan 4ever are you saying that the backmasked lyrics are these words? What are you saying?
beLIEve
Don’t get mad for what he did
He loves you more than what you think
Understand and do beLIEve
That he’ll comeback to us…you’ll see
So stop those tears and realize
That there’s no way he could’ve died
He’s so alive…you know I’m right
Don’t give up hope ‘cause he’ll be back
An open mind is all you need
He left some clues for us to see
That those are lies…he is alive
So hang on tight ‘cause you’ll be surprise…
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MJsFan 4ever are you saying that the backmasked lyrics are these words? What are you saying?
beLIEve
Don’t get mad for what he did
He loves you more than what you think
Understand and do beLIEve
That he’ll comeback to us…you’ll see
So stop those tears and realize
That there’s no way he could’ve died
He’s so alive…you know I’m right
Don’t give up hope ‘cause he’ll be back
An open mind is all you need
He left some clues for us to see
That those are lies…he is alive
So hang on tight ‘cause you’ll be surprise…
NO that's my signature :) but the Who's alive girl? and all the other stuff ThisIsIt1 said in her video it is the same :D
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Did somebody find out if it is live?
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Huh... that was weird. I kep expecting Michael to walk on... he sounded so... there :?
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LINK BELOW
Paul Anka performs "This Is It" and introduces Michael @ 3:10. But something was seriously off when Michael voice came on, IT SOUNDED LIVE! I thought they would use the track, cuz if Michael's supposetly dead that's the only thing they can use to have him sing that song! But it looks like Michael might have been there backstage singing the song live! :o :shock: :? :| :!: :?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPayT81KZ24 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPayT81KZ24)
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:D :o :shock: :? :lol: I dont believe it...it sounds so live...i must admit THIS IS IT is not 1 of my fave MJ sONGS I dont listen to it a lot but i could tell straight away that was different than the released version :mrgreen:
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:o :o :o :shock: :shock: :shock: What was that???
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Wow!!! That sounded live!! And it seemed like right when Michael was getting into it Paul cut off his mic.. LOL
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Sounds incredible, but doesnt sound live to me?
All i know is i miss him so much
[youtube:27gmese0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPayT81KZ24[/youtube:27gmese0]
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viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4971 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4971)
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:shock: that really sounded live..
I hope it was! ;)
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WOW,,,HOW WAS THAT DONE THEN..??????AMSWERS ON A POSTCARD...LOL.....WAS IT MICHEAL ACAPELLA AND THEY JUST WORKED AROUND THAT ?????
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:shock: that really sounded live..
I hope it was! ;)
It sounds like the CD version to me... you know when the sounds dips in the middle because of the poor recording? You can hear it here...
breaks my heart... the audience wakes up at 3;10... you can hear the reaction in the audience to MJs voice. Its magical and like no other.
I miss him so much my heart breaks in two.
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I noticed the one filming this starts moving the camera like searching for the singer, if you know what I mean!
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[youtube:2tu4jykz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQ_eMEfNhM[/youtube:2tu4jykz]
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[youtube:1y7s3h8n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQ_eMEfNhM[/youtube:1y7s3h8n]
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Its not live, its the same as the CD version with the music stripped... you can hear the sound dip like it does in the CD from the poor recording and MJ sounds like a young MJ... not 50 yr old Michael.
Hurts to hear it. Painful because i miss him.
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Please guys, I need your opinion about this specific performance YESTERDAY!!
definetely Michael sound different, but it is not an arrangement on a pre recorded version.
please!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgMKZOEYIZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgMKZOEYIZk)
Yesterday I could really feel MJ.
since it was yesterday, I also found more than just curious the fact that thisisalsoit redirects to the same picture shown in Paul Anka's yesterday's performence. (out of hundreds of thousands of millions of photogharphs of him) 8-)
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Just having a listen it does sound different somehow.
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it does sound different to me what does any body else think
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Nice!!, you see haw it sounds also different from the other performance in tel aviv, wich many in this forum say it sounds live ( it is the same performance though).
and the thisisalsoit redirect today?????????????????????????????????????????????
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it does sound different to me what does any body else think
we'll have to wait
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Its not live, its the same as the CD version with the music stripped... you can hear the sound dip like it does in the CD from the poor recording and MJ sounds like a young MJ... not 50 yr old Michael.
Exactly. I was gonna say that it definitely sounded more like the 20-something year old Michael.
His voice sounded different, if not better, when he got older. ;)
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Its not live, its the same as the CD version with the music stripped... you can hear the sound dip like it does in the CD from the poor recording and MJ sounds like a young MJ... not 50 yr old Michael.
Exactly. I was gonna say that it definitely sounded more like the 20-something year old Michael.
His voice sounded different, if not better, when he got older. ;)
how about the one in my topic??????????????
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6202 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6202)
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Hi! The sound quality was abit fuzzy n I couldn't tell if mj was singing live or whether it was prerecorded, but it definitely is a different version from the cd!! Plus Anka said "he's up there listening", I bet he meant that literally lol.
TIAI's redirect of that picture does support this as well, ur right
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Its not live, its the same as the CD version with the music stripped... you can hear the sound dip like it does in the CD from the poor recording and MJ sounds like a young MJ... not 50 yr old Michael.
Exactly. I was gonna say that it definitely sounded more like the 20-something year old Michael.
His voice sounded different, if not better, when he got older. ;)
how about the one in my topic??????????????
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6202 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6202)
It still sounds the same to me.. you can hear the dip in sound and its a young MJ
[youtube:2j570hha]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgMKZOEYIZk[/youtube:2j570hha]
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Hi! The sound quality was abit fuzzy n I couldn't tell if mj was singing live or whether it was prerecorded, but it definitely is a different version from the cd!! Plus Anka said "he's up there listening", I bet he meant that literally lol.
TIAI's redirect of that picture does support this as well, ur right
spread IT then!!!!
thanks.
L.O.V.E.
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Its not live, its the same as the CD version with the music stripped... you can hear the sound dip like it does in the CD from the poor recording and MJ sounds like a young MJ... not 50 yr old Michael.
Exactly. I was gonna say that it definitely sounded more like the 20-something year old Michael.
His voice sounded different, if not better, when he got older. ;)
how about the one in my topic??????????????
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6202 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6202)
It still sounds the same to me.. you can hear the dip in sound and its a young MJ
[youtube:1hr6a6gw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgMKZOEYIZk[/youtube:1hr6a6gw]
HAOW ABOUT TIAI REDIRECT TODAY???????, check my topic.I said it is the same photograph, and also Paul says:" he is listening"
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here is the full performance... you cannot ffrwd it, so its necessary to wait, but its 10 times better quality.
http://festival2010.canal13.cl/2010/htm ... 97135.html (http://festival2010.canal13.cl/2010/html/MMomentos/IfichaqSMMomentosS22S397135.html)
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I dont follow TIAI... they have been debunked in my mind after it was revealed they are contributors to this site...... i dont think they know anything inside.
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I dont follow TIAI... they have been debunked in my mind after it was revealed they are contributors to this site...... i dont think they know anything inside.
the photo redirection was at the time Paul anka was singin, but nobody mentioned it until now
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he sounds very young to me. perhaps this was recorded back in the days between them
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my[KING]"]he sounds very young to me. perhaps this was recorded back in the days between them
the "back in that time" could also be a cover story, who knows if thats real or not.
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It's basically Michael's acapella from the original (as playback) and the band playing live. Remember that artists do more than one take, so even if this is not the take used and mixed on the cd, it is still from the same session, besides, music can be easily manipulated, the key changed to suit the performance etc. You can also see Paul cue the playback at around 3:08-3:12. It is definately not Michael singing live. Sorry.
that might be, but who's doing the finger snappin'??? :shock:
and paul anka announced him, he did not say anything 'r.i.p.'-wise, not before michael sang and not after. and it does sound very different from the cd version. my daughter listens to it every day, i got the cd version down to a science, regarding intonation, breathing and all. if this is not a different tape, i'd say it is live.
i think we should start diggin' las vegas up looking for mike! :mrgreen: i'm serious! i think there are structures there that can easily hide anyone and those 'old entertainer'-guys take stuff like that to their graves. they won't say anything to anyone and who would think michael was with them? of all people? just think: why was tony bennet in the watw-vid? of all people? i think some of the las vegas entertainers are the real insiders here, the 'old guys'. 8-) they're so cool, it's painful. and they will die with at least one secret (i mean that literally, not that anyone drops dead on us here...).
but let's not forget to get some shuffles at target! :mrgreen:
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I noticed the one filming this starts moving the camera like searching for the singer, if you know what I mean!
you are soooooooooooo right, it from my country, and I watch it every year, and this is the first time that happened. good coment though
notice the photo is the same as the TIai redirect today.
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AM I CRAZY TO ME THIS SOUNDS VERY MUCH LIVE :shock: :o :shock: :o Great part from Michael love t andI miss him soo much :cry:
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Sounds like a much younger Michael Jackson to me :cry:
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not only does this sound live to me..but notice that Paul Anka looks up and around before he says Michaels name. This is totally live!
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yeaaaaaaaaaaaa, thats my people here, trust me, yesterday I was watching this, and I was almost crying cause it was sooooooooo alive.
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Hey correct me if im wrong but after listening to the song i heard MJ say - and it seems as though i've seen your face.... but on all the other versions of the song ive always heard him say - and it feels as though ive seen your face..... so there are two different words there but if im wrong someone let me know :P
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Sounds like a much younger Michael Jackson to me :cry:
I AGREE. THIS IS PROBABLY RECORDINGS FROM PAULS STASH FROM A LONG LONG TIME AGO.
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my[KING]"]Sounds like a much younger Michael Jackson to me :cry:
I AGREE. THIS IS PROBABLY RECORDINGS FROM PAULS STASH FROM A LONG LONG TIME AGO.
oohh! cmon , I think u are disrispecting mike's talent to use different voices even when singing. still not a good point to me that it sound younger, by the way, you say younger but
not necesarily NOT ALIVE. :D
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Sorry but I doubt very much that this is Live. Paul Anka is on tour, he sings this song every concert. It is very unlikely that Michael is touring with Anka. It does sound different to me than the CD version but there are two possible explanations for that. One, Paul Anka has his own version of the song (which has been stripped so the live music plays with it) or Michael recorded a different version of the song (when that would have been done is the question).
Paul Anka tour dates:
http://www.paulanka.com/html/tourdates/index.php
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Sorry but I doubt very much that this is Live. Paul Anka is on tour, he sings this song every concert. It is very unlikely that Michael is touring with Anka. It does sound different to me than the CD version but there are two possible explanations for that. One, Paul Anka has his own version of the song (which has been stripped so the live music plays with it) or Michael recorded a different version of the song (when that would have been done is the question).
Paul Anka tour dates:
http://www.paulanka.com/html/tourdates/index.php
more questions:
who's to say that he's not using playback in other shows and it was just this one?
i also think it is unlikely, that michael is on tour with paul anka, but he could do one show?
and how come this particular performance ends up on youtube?
is there even another recorded version of 'this is it' other than the one heard on cd, since michael also had all the tapes from that session? this one definitely is different regarding the intonation.
one of michael's main features: you can almost not tell a difference between him singing in the studio or live (listen to 'another part of me' from the album and then live - same energy). almost... :mrgreen:
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The reason why Mj sounds different or live is because of the auditorium that makes echos.
It's not live.
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The reason why Mj sounds different or live is because of the auditorium that makes echos.
It's not live.
again: where does this recording come from then? there are differences in the singing.
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of course i am not saying he is not alive im saying that in my opinion this is taped from probably 20 years ago or whenever they originally wrote the song. again it is JUST MY OPINION.
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besides the fact of the background music, the CD version sounds like a very young Michael which he was when it was recorded with Paul. However, this version is the older Michaels voice..or am I loco ? (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/smiley3368.gif)
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Sorry but I doubt very much that this is Live. Paul Anka is on tour, he sings this song every concert. It is very unlikely that Michael is touring with Anka. It does sound different to me than the CD version but there are two possible explanations for that. One, Paul Anka has his own version of the song (which has been stripped so the live music plays with it) or Michael recorded a different version of the song (when that would have been done is the question).
Paul Anka tour dates:
http://www.paulanka.com/html/tourdates/index.php
more questions:
who's to say that he's not using playback in other shows and it was just this one?
i also think it is unlikely, that michael is on tour with paul anka, but he could do one show?
and how come this particular performance ends up on youtube?
is there even another recorded version of 'this is it' other than the one heard on cd, since michael also had all the tapes from that session? this one definitely is different regarding the intonation.
one of michael's main features: you can almost not tell a difference between him singing in the studio or live (listen to 'another part of me' from the album and then live - same energy). almost... :mrgreen:
Ok first of all, I have been watching festival de viña since I was 5, so I can really tell when thats pre-recorded and playback, second.
all is possible.
and the TIAI redirect.
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Sorry but I doubt very much that this is Live. Paul Anka is on tour, he sings this song every concert. It is very unlikely that Michael is touring with Anka. It does sound different to me than the CD version but there are two possible explanations for that. One, Paul Anka has his own version of the song (which has been stripped so the live music plays with it) or Michael recorded a different version of the song (when that would have been done is the question).
Paul Anka tour dates:
http://www.paulanka.com/html/tourdates/index.php
more questions:
who's to say that he's not using playback in other shows and it was just this one?
i also think it is unlikely, that michael is on tour with paul anka, but he could do one show?
and how come this particular performance ends up on youtube?
is there even another recorded version of 'this is it' other than the one heard on cd, since michael also had all the tapes from that session? this one definitely is different regarding the intonation.
one of michael's main features: you can almost not tell a difference between him singing in the studio or live (listen to 'another part of me' from the album and then live - same energy). almost... :mrgreen:
I have a similar video on my youtube channel from an earlier performance of this song by Anka and many viewers said that one was live too. It sounds the same as the video included in the original post in this thread.
Michael may not have all the tapes, Paul Anka may have had one. There is no way to know for sure.
The version Anka is using may also have been recorded after June 25th but it is very unlikely that this is Michael performing Live in my opinion.
I am not going to argue, believe what you like. Just stating my opinion on whether it was live or not.
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Sounds like a much younger Michael to me.
I thought it was interesting that Paul kept the song in a drawer, and that Michael also kept it in a drawer, in his new residence. Seems weird to me. Why should he have kept this song at his new place to be conveniently found, just in time for the "documentary".
Seems planted to me.
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Sorry but I doubt very much that this is Live. Paul Anka is on tour, he sings this song every concert. It is very unlikely that Michael is touring with Anka. It does sound different to me than the CD version but there are two possible explanations for that. One, Paul Anka has his own version of the song (which has been stripped so the live music plays with it) or Michael recorded a different version of the song (when that would have been done is the question).
Paul Anka tour dates:
http://www.paulanka.com/html/tourdates/index.php
more questions:
who's to say that he's not using playback in other shows and it was just this one?
i also think it is unlikely, that michael is on tour with paul anka, but he could do one show?
and how come this particular performance ends up on youtube?
is there even another recorded version of 'this is it' other than the one heard on cd, since michael also had all the tapes from that session? this one definitely is different regarding the intonation.
one of michael's main features: you can almost not tell a difference between him singing in the studio or live (listen to 'another part of me' from the album and then live - same energy). almost... :mrgreen:
I have a similar video on my youtube channel from an earlier performance of this song by Anka and many viewers said that one was live too. It sounds the same as the video included in the original post in this thread.
Michael may not have all the tapes, Paul Anka may have had one. There is no way to know for sure.
The version Anka is using may also have been recorded after June 25th but it is very unlikely that this is Michael performing Live in my opinion.
I am not going to argue, believe what you like. Just stating my opinion on whether it was live or not.
u have a point there, ANYWAYS, it not only did sound live, but it felt like live.
you understand. :D
L.O.V.E.
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Sounds like a much younger Michael to me.
I thought it was interesting that Paul kept the song in a drawer, and that Michael also kept it in a drawer, in his new residence. Seems weird to me. Why should he have kept this song at his new place to be conveniently found, just in time for the "documentary".
Seems planted to me.
THE MUCH younger MJ is very interestin since he could indeed sing with different tones, one of them being like 20 years ago.
And the Paul Anka and MJ story about this is it, it just sound not real, we are assuming it is the truth, but, part could be but not all, or just not true at all. :D
L.O.V.E.
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it sounded live, and like he was having a great time singing it. did it come from a demo or something?
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I ceratily dont wanna dampen all your celebrations, but think about it from a more rational point of view.Michael Jackson is executing a hoax right now.....At least thats what all the evidence points to......So why would he risk coming out into the open without sufficient guarantee of the preservation of his hard earned secrecy?
According to you all then, Paul Anka is lso in on the hoax??!! SHAMONE GUYS
How can a man be singing backstage LIVE without attracting a considerable amount of attention? Wh ywould Michael Jackson even attempt to do that? Even if he were in disgiuse, wouldnt it get the people around suspicious that why is a man they have never seen before singin' in MJ's voice? Because everyone knows how Mj sings......
And for God's sake, how many people does MJ have to include in his scheme? We know that all the peopel who were involved in the This Is It project are part of this.....KO, Randy Philips, All the Dancers, The This Is It Band of Musicians.....all of them.....
MJ is not a madman.....Being a part of Paul Anka's show means that all the backstage technicians and crew will come to know of it by word of mouth......This is bound to happen.....
Lets remember that a song is very rarely recorded at one go....there are sevevral takes....several versions.....several mistakes.....So Paul could be using a different version altogether...Speciallly because This Is It was an unreleased song till October....And with MJ "gone" and most people not liking that song, no one in the audience is gonna care that much..Maybe he was just taking advantage of this phsycology of the crowd....I mean, lets accept it, This Is It really wasnt well received by critics and fans alike..No disrspect intenedd there....But THIS certainly doesnt apply for the Will Yu Be There sung at the Memorial......The Pain vs. Pains thing is very clear to all......
Lets not get paranoid and turn every little thing it into a clue....'Coz everything is not a clue.....No offense.
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It would seem strange that Paul Anka would sing this song after supposedly "sued" Michael for this song rights and get paid. And then perform it with Michael in it. Like, hey, I sued over this song but now I am going to perform it with the guy I sued. Why wouldn't he just sing it himself live in his live show? Just strange... but then what isn't?
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not only does this sound live to me..but notice that Paul Anka looks up and around before he says Michaels name. This is totally live!
@doreentbird, oh yes, it is totally live. When I get to 3:10 and heard Michael's voice, I thought I was going to be sick. I mean physically sick because it is live to me. His voice here sounds so different from the two tracks on TII. This is the third time that this has happened:
1. Grammys Earth Song
2. Olympics The New We Are The World
3. Paul Anka This Is It performance
If this keeps happening I am going to go crazy. I miss you so much MJ. I do not know what to do with myself. The pain is unbearable at times like this :cry: . MJ, if you are out there, please send us your fans a sign that you are okay. I love you more than words can express, MJ. You are sewn into my heart and you are apart of my DNA, MJ. No one in the world will ever stop me from loving you or make me give up on finding out what happened to you on June 25th, 2009. MJ, I love it for L.O.V.E!
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I found Paul Anka's hand jester or sign that he makes at 3:09 more than very interesting! :o :shock: :o :shock: It is like he is signaling to someone backstage! I believe that someone is MJ! ;)
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:o :? :lol: :lol: :lol: :shock:
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It's definitely different, but I think it's most likely just an earlier demo of the song...
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I found Paul Anka's hand jester or sign that he makes at 3:09 more than very interesting! :o :shock: :o :shock: It is like he is signaling to someone backstage! I believe that someone is MJ! ;)
i saw that too, then he announced..
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it DEF sounds live. but his voice sounds so young you know. In 2009 for example or if you listen the album invincible you hear a bit lower voice cuz he is older now ;) But yeah it def sounds very live!
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[quIote="mjssoulmate"]Sounds like a much younger Michael to me.
I thought it was interesting that Paul kept the song in a drawer, and that Michael also kept it in a drawer, in his new residence. Seems weird to me. Why should he have kept this song at his new place to be conveniently found, just in time for the "documentary".
Seems planted to me.[/quote]
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This song for me has always been a big clue, The first time I heard it I contacted it to the time Michael spent in Ireland, "I feel GRAND" is an irish thing, I travel alot & I have never heard it said anywhere else & when I say it people would ask what it meant........
Why Grand????????? Why not fine????
I take it as a clue
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[quIote="mjssoulmate"]Sounds like a much younger Michael to me.
I thought it was interesting that Paul kept the song in a drawer, and that Michael also kept it in a drawer, in his new residence. Seems weird to me. Why should he have kept this song at his new place to be conveniently found, just in time for the "documentary".
Seems planted to me.
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This song for me has always been a big clue, The first time I heard it I contacted it to the time Michael spent in Ireland, "I feel GRAND" is an irish thing, I travel alot & I have never heard it said anywhere else & when I say it people would ask what it meant........
Why Grand????????? Why not fine????
I take it as a clue[/quote]
Possibly because "I feel grand" rhymes with "here I stand". But you're right - I know quite a few Irish people and "grand" is a word I've heard them use ... e.g. "I had a GRAND time!"
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DANCINGTHEDREAM, thank you for the YTvid.
Now here's what I think. When Paul Anka was singing TII, he said the word UNDERSTAND many times before Michael starts to sing. For me , that word is very important. At the end, Paul Anka could have said "This is in memory of my good friend, Michael Jackson. May he rest in peace" or something if Michael is really dead. But instead Paul said Michael Jackson and he pointed obliquely upward.
Now about the singing of Michael, I too believe it was him singing because his voice is his voice now not the one when he was young. Very different rendition.
I just wish I saw the concert of Paul Anka.
I sure miss Michael more now than ever.
CHRISGURL, thank you for opening this topic and thanks for sharing the YT link.
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LINK BELOW
Paul Anka performs "This Is It" and introduces Michael @ 3:10. But something was seriously off when Michael voice came on, IT SOUNDED LIVE! I thought they would use the track, cuz if Michael's supposetly dead that's the only thing they can use to have him sing that song! But it looks like Michael might have been there backstage singing the song live! :o :shock: :? :| :!: :?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPayT81KZ24 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPayT81KZ24)
Already posted at
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4971 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4971)
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[quIote="mjssoulmate"]Sounds like a much younger Michael to me.
I thought it was interesting that Paul kept the song in a drawer, and that Michael also kept it in a drawer, in his new residence. Seems weird to me. Why should he have kept this song at his new place to be conveniently found, just in time for the "documentary".
Seems planted to me.
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This song for me has always been a big clue, The first time I heard it I contacted it to the time Michael spent in Ireland, "I feel GRAND" is an irish thing, I travel alot & I have never heard it said anywhere else & when I say it people would ask what it meant........
Why Grand????????? Why not fine????
I take it as a clue
Possibly because "I feel grand" rhymes with "here I stand". But you're right - I know quite a few Irish people and "grand" is a word I've heard them use ... e.g. "I had a GRAND time!"[/quote]
Thats just it Emerald, I dont think michael wrote songs to make them rhyme, "Grand" is not a word that you would put into that context, In my opinion Michael put it there for people to question it & discover it was a very irish thing to say.........just my thoughts on it ;)
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Sorry but I doubt very much that this is Live. Paul Anka is on tour, he sings this song every concert. It is very unlikely that Michael is touring with Anka. It does sound different to me than the CD version but there are two possible explanations for that. One, Paul Anka has his own version of the song (which has been stripped so the live music plays with it) or Michael recorded a different version of the song (when that would have been done is the question).
Paul Anka tour dates:
http://www.paulanka.com/html/tourdates/index.php
more questions:
who's to say that he's not using playback in other shows and it was just this one?
i also think it is unlikely, that michael is on tour with paul anka, but he could do one show?
and how come this particular performance ends up on youtube?
is there even another recorded version of 'this is it' other than the one heard on cd, since michael also had all the tapes from that session? this one definitely is different regarding the intonation.
one of michael's main features: you can almost not tell a difference between him singing in the studio or live (listen to 'another part of me' from the album and then live - same energy). almost... :mrgreen:
Ok first of all, I have been watching festival de viña since I was 5, so I can really tell when thats pre-recorded and playback, second.
all is possible.
and the TIAI redirect.
what you mean? you can tell live or not live by attending a festival regularly?
you don't see mj, you just hear him, it's quite different from actually seeing someone sing.
and of course you supposed to think 'playback' when you don't see the person, especially when he's supossed to be dead.
i'm not saying it is live for sure but it is definitely different from the cd-version we all heard. i have a musical background myself (not watching, making it) and very good ears, i can tell even little differences and i'm usually right.
and who could have the tapes if not michael, when paul anka said he didn't even remember the song anymore until now and all the tapes are allegedly 'gone'?
what gets me most is the fact that there is no 'may he rest in peace', 'god bless his soul' or anything. it's an announcement.
but you're right: anything is possible. it's michael jackson. ;)
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Double posts on this topic. I just posted these thoughts in the other topic:
Now here's what I think. When Paul Anka was singing TII, he said the word UNDERSTAND many times before Michael starts to sing. For me , that word is very important. At the end, Paul Anka could have said "This is in memory of my good friend, Michael Jackson. May he rest in peace" or something if Michael is really dead. But instead Paul said Michael Jackson and he pointed obliquely upward.
Now about the singing of Michael, I too believe it was him singing because his voice is his voice now not the one when he was young. Very different rendition.
I just wish I saw the concert of Paul Anka.
I sure miss Michael more now than ever.
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Its not live, its the same as the CD version with the music stripped... you can hear the sound dip like it does in the CD from the poor recording and MJ sounds like a young MJ... not 50 yr old Michael.
Exactly. I was gonna say that it definitely sounded more like the 20-something year old Michael.
His voice sounded different, if not better, when he got older. ;)
erm...did anyone really hear him sing live in full voice lately? except for the tii-dvd, which was very probably re-edited soundwise, means we don't hear direct stage sound. and michael kept saying 'i'm saving my voice' several times through tii.
the only indication of 'younger/older' mike is the sound quality of the recording, which can only be improved so much, since the source were tapes, not digital recordings. whenever you see live footage, his voice doesn't really change that much over the years.
i think his voice didn't really change that much since he was 20something, not significantly. we could hear him hit the same high notes in tii like 20 years ago sometimes. as far as i remember his last public singing was in 2006. who's to say what his voice sounds like live on stage today, without digital remastering etc.?
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Man that dude Anka almost made me fall asleep watching that clip. He sings it kind of boring not to be mean. It got way better when MJ's voice came in. He does kinda sound live though.
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There is another topic on this which was started on Feb.6
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Man that dude Anka almost made me fall asleep watching that clip. He sings it kind of boring not to be mean. It got way better when MJ's voice came in. He does kinda sound live though.
:lol: :lol: :lol: i felt the same. like: oh no, he's not gonna destroy his own song and play it like this to end...? it was waaayyy to dramatic. luckily, mj came in and saved the song... :mrgreen:
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YOU GUYS SHOULD BR DEFINETLY BE CHECKIN THE SECOND VIDEO ON THE THREAD (THE BLUE ONE NOT THE GREEN ONE), THAT SOUND DEFINETLY LIVE!!
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I ceratily dont wanna dampen all your celebrations, but think about it from a more rational point of view.Michael Jackson is executing a hoax right now.....At least thats what all the evidence points to......So why would he risk coming out into the open without sufficient guarantee of the preservation of his hard earned secrecy?
According to you all then, Paul Anka is lso in on the hoax??!! SHAMONE GUYS
How can a man be singing backstage LIVE without attracting a considerable amount of attention? Wh ywould Michael Jackson even attempt to do that? Even if he were in disgiuse, wouldnt it get the people around suspicious that why is a man they have never seen before singin' in MJ's voice? Because everyone knows how Mj sings......
And for God's sake, how many people does MJ have to include in his scheme? We know that all the peopel who were involved in the This Is It project are part of this.....KO, Randy Philips, All the Dancers, The This Is It Band of Musicians.....all of them.....
MJ is not a madman.....Being a part of Paul Anka's show means that all the backstage technicians and crew will come to know of it by word of mouth......This is bound to happen.....
Lets remember that a song is very rarely recorded at one go....there are sevevral takes....several versions.....several mistakes.....So Paul could be using a different version altogether...Speciallly because This Is It was an unreleased song till October....And with MJ "gone" and most people not liking that song, no one in the audience is gonna care that much..Maybe he was just taking advantage of this phsycology of the crowd....I mean, lets accept it, This Is It really wasnt well received by critics and fans alike..No disrspect intenedd there....But THIS certainly doesnt apply for the Will Yu Be There sung at the Memorial......The Pain vs. Pains thing is very clear to all......
Lets not get paranoid and turn every little thing it into a clue....'Coz everything is not a clue.....No offense.
Once again, why not??, let me tell you that viña del mar in first place has a lot of secret paths, so it is easy for a person , anyone, to hide without even being noticed, I never said he was just backstage!!, also, if you notice, the director starts to try to find who is singing, that happens NEVER in festival de viña.
The Paul Anka being part of it just sounds more credible that some other theories of people bein part.
An the sue and copyright stuff sounds planned, so sony wouldnt get the rights for this song, if so, we couldnt be witnesing this!!
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cmon guys, when i heard michael singing at the beggining.. I thought it wasnt live.. but.. in the min 3:33 he says.. And it seems as though I've seen your face a thousand times.. instead of..'' And it feels as though I've seen your face a thousand times'' !!!!!!!
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There were3 posts about this topic. I merged them all into one.
Guys, PLLLEEEEEEASE look to see if a topic has been posted before you post another one. Its very annoying to have to merge/delete threads when this happens. It saves us alot of work...and also please try and post in the correct catagory!!
THANKS! :P
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To me it sounds different to the CD, I get sad when I hear the voice ... Michael :(
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Its Michael Jackson,he's just not singing live,its prerecorded.
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I think its impossible he performs live... he'd have to be in every place where Paul Anka goes!!! so i think its a pre-recorded version of the song...that's all... :P I live in Chile and I didn't see Michael in any place around here when Paul Anka was singing TII!!! :mrgreen:
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I mean, why would he risk it and make all these "cameo" appearances everywhere?
There's really no point in it; in my opinion.
:(
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when recording a song. you take numerous takes. im sure this is something from way back.
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my[KING]"]when recording a song. you take numerous takes. im sure this is something from way back.
I'm agree!! ;)
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I mean, why would he risk it and make all these "cameo" appearances everywhere?
There's really no point in it; in my opinion.
:(
well, maybe it's the only way to find out if he's getting noticed by his real fans and supporters. if this is a hoax, don't you thoink he would have forums like this one checked, to see if there are reactions to his clues and how they come out? he's recruiting his army of l.o.v.e. now, and the more 'soldiers' on his team, the better. this would be the only way to check if this is working. and i guess the decision whether to reveal the hoax or not will depend on how it would be percieved. he has to make sure that there will be as little hostility as possible, if he ever decides to show up again, he needs as much support as possible from his fans, so he's telling them: i'm still here, you just have to look hard enough.
if i were to create a hoax these days, this would be my way to find out how much support i have and where it is. people who are convinced that mj is really dead wouldn't be in a forum like this and they would not even see the clues. they believe the ambulance pic, the tape, the autopsy report without even looking at it. looks real enough...the clues can only be seen by those who kow what mj is really about, cuz they can make the connection.
counting recruits... :mrgreen:
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I think its impossible he performs live... he'd have to be in every place where Paul Anka goes!!! so i think its a pre-recorded version of the song...that's all... :P I live in Chile and I didn't see Michael in any place around here when Paul Anka was singing TII!!! :mrgreen:
...so that means LAS VEGAS mainly.
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Wasn't Paul Anka saying that this song was "stolen" from him? Didn't he go to court to get royalities on this song? I doubt this song was part of his set list before. Interesting..... :| He was just here in concert - sorry I missed it.
Actually, PA made an agreement with the estate for royalties. See here for details:
http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/1 ... laims.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/10/12/2009-10-12_paul_anka_gets_50_cut_in_michael_jacksons_this_is_it_single_after_ripoff_claims.html)
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/162367 ... hael.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1623670/20091013/jackson_michael.jhtml)
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o OMG OMG OMG That is different from cd guys :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: wow 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
YEP! it is totally different from the CD-Version!!! And I couldn't remember of Michael ever singin TII live...I compared the CD version and this and the whole thing sounds different...It doesn't even sound like an "A capella version"...wow, weird, I had goosebumps
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the "viña del mar" festival is the one that sounds more lively to me, by the way, after listening a lot of this is it, the cd version, he doesnt sound like 20something MJ, as many critics of this are saying about this performance.
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For me it sounds like he is singing it live his voice sounds more mature but like some of you said it probibly a acapella version :(
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I have to say if you compare the two videos I don't think anymore that it is live... he stops at the same time etc. etc. :(
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Hey correct me if im wrong but after listening to the song i heard MJ say - and it seems as though i've seen your face.... but on all the other versions of the song ive always heard him say - and it feels as though ive seen your face..... so there are two different words there but if im wrong someone let me know :P
I noticed that too and I listen to the cd(both versions) very regularly.
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What emotion, when Anka announces Michael Jackson! Can you immagine when it'll really happen??? Oh my God.... Michael please, come back soon!!
I thought the same thing :P
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Do you really think Paul Anka is part of the hoax ? And the staff of this show ? I don't think so.
Nowadays, witch audio techniques, we can make an audio presume to be in live. Sorry for bad english...
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The lyrics are different also, some verses are mingled... Just for connaiseurs and beLIEvers! ;)
L.O.V.E.,
Andy
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Have we an expert in audio for take only the voice and compare with voice from CD's version ? :)
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Mindblowing! What other proof do we need ? (By the way, I*m from Romania too.)
L.O.V.E.
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[youtube:1stf8qed]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hgRA8B0Wk4&feature=related[/youtube:1stf8qed]
Before everyone gets so excited over what they think is a live performance...watch this interview with Paul Anka...it proves to me that he's another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares...this is exactly, in my opinion, why Michael faked his death to get away from these people.
I'm not convinced that Michael would collaborate live with him on this song. Anka gets half of song rights so of course he's going to be allowed to use it, but I don't think he's doing it as a tribute.
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o OMG OMG OMG That is different from cd guys :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: wow 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
YEP! it is totally different from the CD-Version!!! And I couldn't remember of Michael ever singin TII live...I compared the CD version and this and the whole thing sounds different...It doesn't even sound like an "A capella version"...wow, weird, I had goosebumps
I was singing that song too lately and it seemed to end different than what I originally heard. ...whew... good to know I'm not REALLY going crazy... 8-)
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[youtube:cx04uu77]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hgRA8B0Wk4&feature=related[/youtube:cx04uu77]
Before everyone gets so excited over what they think is a live performance...watch this interview with Paul Anka...it proves to me that he's another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares...this is exactly, in my opinion, why Michael faked his death to get away from these people.
I'm not convinced that Michael would collaborate live with him on this song. Anka gets half of song rights so of course he's going to be allowed to use it, but I don't think he's doing it as a tribute.
We shall have a video duel because I don't think Paul Anka is just "another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares"! :mrgreen:
[youtube:cx04uu77]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlRXPBpAiY[/youtube:cx04uu77]
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[youtube:nnltr0y1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hgRA8B0Wk4&feature=related[/youtube:nnltr0y1]
Before everyone gets so excited over what they think is a live performance...watch this interview with Paul Anka...it proves to me that he's another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares...this is exactly, in my opinion, why Michael faked his death to get away from these people.
I'm not convinced that Michael would collaborate live with him on this song. Anka gets half of song rights so of course he's going to be allowed to use it, but I don't think he's doing it as a tribute.
We shall have a video duel because I don't think Paul Anka is just "another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares"! :mrgreen:
[youtube:nnltr0y1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlRXPBpAiY[/youtube:nnltr0y1]
Thank you for this video...I'm rusty on this story.
I do hear a difference in the way the song is sung on the cd and then at the concert. Guess it'll still be some time before we know the truth!
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that vid made me smile :D
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[youtube:3boyu6cg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hgRA8B0Wk4&feature=related[/youtube:3boyu6cg]
Before everyone gets so excited over what they think is a live performance...watch this interview with Paul Anka...it proves to me that he's another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares...this is exactly, in my opinion, why Michael faked his death to get away from these people.
I'm not convinced that Michael would collaborate live with him on this song. Anka gets half of song rights so of course he's going to be allowed to use it, but I don't think he's doing it as a tribute.
We shall have a video duel because I don't think Paul Anka is just "another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares"! :mrgreen:
[youtube:3boyu6cg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlRXPBpAiY[/youtube:3boyu6cg]
Thank you for this video...I'm rusty on this story.
I do hear a difference in the way the song is sung on the cd and then at the concert. Guess it'll still be some time before we know the truth!
"Now we know why this song was so good; It wasn't the type of song Michael Jackson would write." Please. I'm sure Paul must have known they were blowing smoke in his backside. I wouldn't have even repeated that. I don't know what the tiff was between he and Michael, but that song wasn't worth stealing. AND FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT DIDN'T SEE MY OTHER MANY POSTS REGARDING THIS SONG This is from the BMI database. I'm pretty sure it was always there. I remember checking it. Paul always had credit. I just don't know how it got to copyright without credit - although at one time I thought I saw it there also. But here it is from BMI and always was.
THIS IS IT
BMI Work #672974
Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI #
ANKA PAUL BMI 1049150
JACKSON MICHAEL JOE BMI 2961801
Publishers
MIJAC MUSIC BMI 53765369
PAULANNE MUSIC INC BMI 16541602
http://repertoire.bmi.com/TitleSearch.a ... tles=False (http://repertoire.bmi.com/TitleSearch.asp?querytype=WorkName&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&keyname=this%20Is%20it&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=False&blnAltTitles=False)
------------------------------------JUST FOUND IT. I KNEW I SAW IT - Different Title at copyright office.
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu001470639 / 1991-02-20
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Copyright Claimant: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1990
Authorship on Application: words & music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson.
Previous Registration: Prev. reg. 1983, PAu 533-333.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: "change in words and music."
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This one under Michael's name only
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000668598 / 1984-11-16
Title: This is it / Michael Jackson.
Description: 1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson
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Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0000515041 / 1991-04-12
Title: I never heard.
Appears in: I wasn’t born yesterday. Mercury 846 651-2, c1991. 1 compact disc
Publisher Number: Mercury 846 651-2
Performer: Performed by Safire.
Copyright Claimant: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1990
Date of Publication: 1991-03-05
Authorship on Application: words & music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson.
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Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0000527515 / 1991-06-21
Title: I never heard.
Appears in: I wasn’t born yesterday. 1 sound cassette
Performer: Performed by Safire.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music, Chrysalis Songs, Paulanne Music
Date of Creation: 1991
Date of Publication: 1991-03-05
Authorship on Application: words, music: Michael Jackson, Paul Anka.
==============================================================
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu001470639 / 1991-02-20
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Copyright Claimant: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1990
Authorship on Application: words & music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson.
Previous Registration: Prev. reg. 1983, PAu 533-333.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: "change in words and music."
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[youtube:2qgtntd4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hgRA8B0Wk4&feature=related[/youtube:2qgtntd4]
Before everyone gets so excited over what they think is a live performance...watch this interview with Paul Anka...it proves to me that he's another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares...this is exactly, in my opinion, why Michael faked his death to get away from these people.
I'm not convinced that Michael would collaborate live with him on this song. Anka gets half of song rights so of course he's going to be allowed to use it, but I don't think he's doing it as a tribute.
We shall have a video duel because I don't think Paul Anka is just "another entertainer trying to use Michael for his own benefit and acting like he cares"! :mrgreen:
[youtube:2qgtntd4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlRXPBpAiY[/youtube:2qgtntd4]
Thank you for this video...I'm rusty on this story.
I do hear a difference in the way the song is sung on the cd and then at the concert. Guess it'll still be some time before we know the truth!
"Now we know why this song was so good; It was the type of song Michael Jackson would write." Please. I'm sure Paul must have known they were blowing smoke in his backside. I wouldn't have even repeated that. I don't know what the tiff was between he and Michael, but that song wasn't worth stealing. AND FOR ALL OF THOSE THAT DIDN'T SEE MY OTHER MANY POSTS REGARDING THIS SONG This is from the BMI database. I'm pretty sure it was always there. I remember checking it. Paul always had credit. I just don't know how it got to copyright without credit - although at one time I thought I saw it there also. But here it is from BMI and always was.
THIS IS IT
BMI Work #672974
Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI #
ANKA PAUL BMI 1049150
JACKSON MICHAEL JOE BMI 2961801
Publishers
MIJAC MUSIC BMI 53765369
PAULANNE MUSIC INC BMI 16541602
http://repertoire.bmi.com/TitleSearch.a ... tles=False (http://repertoire.bmi.com/TitleSearch.asp?querytype=WorkName&page=1&fromrow=1&torow=25&keyname=this%20Is%20it&blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=False&blnAltTitles=False)
------------------------------------JUST FOUND IT. I KNEW I SAW IT - Different Title at copyright office.
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu001470639 / 1991-02-20
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Copyright Claimant: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1990
Authorship on Application: words & music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson.
Previous Registration: Prev. reg. 1983, PAu 533-333.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: "change in words and music."
===============================================================
This one under Michael's name only
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000668598 / 1984-11-16
Title: This is it / Michael Jackson.
Description: 1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson
===============================================================
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0000515041 / 1991-04-12
Title: I never heard.
Appears in: I wasn’t born yesterday. Mercury 846 651-2, c1991. 1 compact disc
Publisher Number: Mercury 846 651-2
Performer: Performed by Safire.
Copyright Claimant: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1990
Date of Publication: 1991-03-05
Authorship on Application: words & music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson.
===============================================================
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PA0000527515 / 1991-06-21
Title: I never heard.
Appears in: I wasn’t born yesterday. 1 sound cassette
Performer: Performed by Safire.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music, Chrysalis Songs, Paulanne Music
Date of Creation: 1991
Date of Publication: 1991-03-05
Authorship on Application: words, music: Michael Jackson, Paul Anka.
==============================================================
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu001470639 / 1991-02-20
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Copyright Claimant: Paulanne Music, Chrysalis Songs, Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1990
Authorship on Application: words & music: Paul Anka & Michael Joe Jackson.
Previous Registration: Prev. reg. 1983, PAu 533-333.
Basis of Claim: New Matter: "change in words and music."
Thank you for posting this info, very interesting. I dont know much, I should say nothing really :lol: , about these things so I have 1 question. How come or is there so many different dates of creation?
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SIMPLYME, thanks for the data/info. What I notice is that:
1)in earlier date 1984 - you see Michael 's name only
2)then in the later date 1991 - you see Paul & Michael's name
:?: :?: :?:
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P.S. I can't sleep. Here I am. I noticed I made a misquote in my post about what Paul said. I meant to write that they told Paul It wasn't the kind of song Michael would write - not that it was.
Think I'll just go back and fix it.
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@Juliet and Jennie.
First, the first one and the last one I posted are the same. I put the same thing twice by accident.
The 3 1991 Registrations are I think because Saphire recorded the song- 1 disc and 1 cassette.
On the first one at the top, it says "change in words and music" and also says there was a previous registration in 1983 I couldn't find it. I'll go back and look again when I have a chance. So I guess between the first reg and 1990 there was a change in the lyrics and composition. Since I can't find the 1983 reg. I can't be sure what that said but probably said both Paul and Michael.
Then Michael's with the different title was registered in 1984.
I'll look again for that other reg. But as you can see "This Is It" was in BMI. Still can't figure how it got to the copyright office w/ just Michael's name on it.
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Okay, I found the original reg. I wasn't putting enough zeros in from of the 533- so looked it up alphabetically
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000533333 / 1983-08-08
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Description: 1 p.
Notes: Lead sheet.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music & Paulanne Music, Inc.
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Joe Jackson & Paul Anka.
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Okay, I found the original reg. I wasn't putting enough zeros in from of the 533- so looked it up alphabetically
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000533333 / 1983-08-08
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Description: 1 p.
Notes: Lead sheet.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music & Paulanne Music, Inc.
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Joe Jackson & Paul Anka.
Thank you very much SIMPLYME.
Here's a big HUG for you ;) ;) ;)
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Okay, I found the original reg. I wasn't putting enough zeros in from of the 533- so looked it up alphabetically
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000533333 / 1983-08-08
Title: I never heard / Anka, Jackson.
Description: 1 p.
Notes: Lead sheet.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music & Paulanne Music, Inc.
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Joe Jackson & Paul Anka.
Thank you very much SIMPLYME.
Here's a big HUG for you ;) ;) ;)
You're welcome sweetie.