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Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 02, 2010, 05:10:39 PM

Title: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 02, 2010, 05:10:39 PM
just saw this on the front page of MSN.com from the Associated Press.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35203366/ns ... ?GT1=43001 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35203366/ns/entertainment-celebrities/?GT1=43001)



AP: Jackson’s doc to face manslaughter charge
Official: Prosecutor will file criminal complaint against Conrad Murray

updated 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES - Prosecutors plan to charge Michael Jackson’s doctor with manslaughter rather than take the case to a grand jury, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday.

Prosecutors will file a criminal complaint against Dr. Conrad Murray, who practices in Houston, instead of taking the case before a grand jury, which is done in private, the official said.

The person is not authorized to speak publicly about the case and only spoke on condition of anonymity.

The complaint would be the prelude to a public hearing in which a judge would weigh testimony from witnesses to decide if there is probable cause to try him on an involuntary manslaughter charge.

Jackson died June 25 from an anesthetic overdose. Murray maintains nothing he gave Jackson should have killed him.

Murray arrived in Los Angeles last weekend in anticipation of a charging decision from the district attorney’s office, a spokeswoman said Tuesday.

“Dr. Murray is in Los Angeles for a dual purpose — on family business and to be available for law enforcement,” said spokeswoman Miranda Sevcik. “We’re trying to be as cooperative as we can.”

There is no official word on when an announcement about any charges might come. David Walgren, the deputy Los Angeles County district attorney handling the case, declined to comment Tuesday.

The district attorney’s office has for weeks been working closely with Los Angeles Police Department investigators to build a case against Murray.


Jackson, 50, hired Murray to be his personal physician as he prepared for a strenuous series of comeback performances in London. He died in Los Angeles after Murray administered the powerful general anesthetic propofol and two other sedatives to get the chronic insomniac to sleep, according to the Los Angeles County coroner’s office, which ruled the death a homicide.

Murray has denied any criminal wrongdoing.

“We continue to maintain that Dr. Murray neither prescribed nor administered anything that should have killed Michael Jackson,” Sevcik said.

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kirsche on February 02, 2010, 05:12:40 PM
ah okay..so it will not take place in front of the grand jury, it will stay private...


interesting...
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: somekindofsign on February 02, 2010, 05:14:03 PM
So we cannot see, we cannot beLIEve...  ;)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kirsche on February 02, 2010, 05:17:03 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
So we cannot see, we cannot beLIEve...  ;)


Exactly!!


So we don't even know if it will take place or not, it if it's kept private!

Pretty Clever I think
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: mjfan4ever on February 02, 2010, 05:22:57 PM
Ok, so do you think they will just make it look like they are charging him with mansalaughter , thats why it's all behide close doors ???? OR DO YALL THINK THIS IS IT ,, if they charge him does that think MJ is really gone . I pray this is not what it looks like ...
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: somekindofsign on February 02, 2010, 05:25:39 PM
Same that always. If we just get some videos going in and out of court... nothing.  :D
If we have official evidences, This is it.  :cry:
By now, nothing  :P
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kirsche on February 02, 2010, 05:26:48 PM
Exactly!

And again the same photo used, they're showin us for about 7 months now....
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 02, 2010, 05:31:36 PM
Since it's bogus anyway, why not take the cheapest route?  That way taxpayers lose their ability to bitch about it.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kirsche on February 02, 2010, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Same that always. If we just get some videos going in and out of court... nothing.  :D
If we have official evidences, This is it.  :cry:
By now, nothing  :P


If there will be a trial anyway :P
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on February 02, 2010, 05:41:14 PM
Just came across this on Twitter seems to indicate a different view altogether?


Michael Jackson doctor not due to surrender: lawyer

http://us.mobile.reuters.com/mobile/m/A ... VV20100202 (http://us.mobile.reuters.com/mobile/m/AnyArticle/p.rdt?URL=http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6115VV20100202)

 :?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kirsche on February 02, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
There are many different stories out there..

MEDIA SUCKS
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: simplyme on February 02, 2010, 07:03:38 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
ah okay..so it will not take place in front of the grand jury, it will stay private...


interesting...

You're reading it backward guys.  It's NOT going before the grand jury to decide whether or not to proceed.  and if they proceeded that would be public anyway.  They are just going to charge him according to the article.  It is the grand jury proceedings that are private.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: mehere on February 02, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
So we cannot see, we cannot beLIEve...  ;)

Right you are!  Great comment!
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: foreverking on February 02, 2010, 07:21:27 PM
The Grand Jury is when a secret jury is formed and the evidence is presented before them and they decide to charge the defendant. If the D A charges him, then all of the evidence will be out there for everyone to see. This makes me think the case is so weak, the DA doesn't feel they can get the grand jury to agree to indict him, so they'll let the public decide.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: speeddemon on February 02, 2010, 07:21:56 PM
this is not looking good at all

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8494682.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8494682.stm)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: neversaynever on February 02, 2010, 07:50:15 PM
Larry King is going to cover the story at 9pm EST!  CNN is reporting he will turn himself in this week.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: QuirkyDiana on February 02, 2010, 08:02:12 PM
This is pretty straightforward as i see it. A little research clears up the situation nicely. There is nothing covert going on here folks. Actually, by way of definition, it is quite the opposite. As someone aleady said, a grand jury is held in private - secret. They are not having a grand jury.

'A grand jury is a jury of 12 to 23 persons convened in private session to evaluate accusations against persons charged with crime and to determine whether the evidence warrants a bill of indictment.'
 
'The use of grand juries has declined in the 20th cent., in part because they were perceived as prone to either prosecutorial domination or abuse of their investigatory role. Britain abandoned them in the 1930s, and today fewer than half of U.S. states employ them. The Information, a written statement issued by a prosecutor, has largely replaced the indictment.'

The 'Information' (a formal list of charges) is filed along with the criminal complaint. If it succeeds it goes to trial.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/ ... 47938.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/6847938.html)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: neversaynever on February 02, 2010, 08:04:28 PM
From Larry King:


Has not been indited. Will surrender within the next 24-48 hours. They want it away from the media. Involuntary manslaughter seem to be the charges.  Will use a crimminal complaint and not a grand jury. DA does not even have charges filed yet. Every indication that it is moving forward.





Toxicology report has not been released. DA has it.


They said it looks bad for him - but someone has to pay. Family wants him to pay. They have to proove that the medication cocktail is what killed him. And it's going to be tough to prove. Lawyer wants to negotiate and not have Murray on TV.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Disco on February 02, 2010, 08:10:57 PM
So many conflicking reports!!!
We knew this was going to happen guys, it had to happen...........
So everyone hang in there forthe ride!!  ;)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: karmaknowstruth on February 02, 2010, 08:13:32 PM
Okay you guys we have to be cool headed.  
This is the first new info in a while.
Just like you I want to know exactly what is going on.  
But on the other hand there's a couple of things to keep in mind.
First ya have to remember everything we have learned to this point.

1-We know to be skeptical of media reports even from the biggies  AP, Reuters, BBC.
Even they are not exempt from reporting really big lies concerning global issues.
2-For 7 months we have kept faith in the hoax theory so decide how strong you are willing to be in the coming weeks.  It is time to be very adult & clear headed.
3-In order to pull off a hoax in the true face of the public things will seem strange, unfair and confusing to us again.  So not hearing much may be part of the hoax.

I would like to see us stay organized in keeping track of and considering the validity of who reports what and when and especially what we hear from the Jackson family.
You know we are being monitored by everyone so what we say can in fact help to protect or damage a hoax.  Be aware of people infiltrating this forum with the intention of adding to the confusion or creating diversion.  

Things are about to move into a very emotional stress filled phase for us.  I have a really hard time myself sorting speculation from valid info.
I hope we can use the best of our brain power and stick together to the end.

Last I can say is try to see clarity through the illusions.  I'm on Michael's side no matter what.

xoxoxo
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: mehere on February 02, 2010, 08:21:28 PM
Man.  Now that I think about it, it's only the beginning of second month of 2010.  Has this been a busy year so far with regards to MJ and the hoax?  So much stuff going down.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: msteetee34 on February 02, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Well according to an article I just read this information is not true.  There are too many conflicting stories.  If he really was about to face manslaughter I think it would be flashing across every tv screen right now and on the internet.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Michaelareuok on February 02, 2010, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
So we cannot see, we cannot beLIEve...  ;)


Prelude to a public hearing huh? Hmm they will indite Murray and then MJ will show up at the trial other than that Murray will be set free I think.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: mjfan4ever on February 02, 2010, 08:34:47 PM
I think thats what we have to keep telling ourselfs we came here to find out the truth for Michael .. So ok we maybe fixing to find out if this is all a hoax on our behalf as a joke .. or this thing is fixing to blow sky high and Michael will either come out hiding or He'll stay gone forever and we will have to live with this pain we have in our hearts for the rest of our lives ..and will never really know if we lost him or not .. Yall better hold on ...this ride could get alittle bumpy ..lol!
          Either way I'm behide you Michael what ever you do .. I have been a fan from the begaining and I'll be one to the end .. I miss you everyday  MJ .. I pray your in a good place ..where ever that maybe ..
                                May god bless you and keep Michael .. lori.... ;)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: hesouttamylife on February 02, 2010, 08:39:10 PM
I am ready.  This is the cliff hanger in my opinion to the whole story.  Once the Murray role is out of the way, then things can start moving swiftly towards the REAL truth.  So, I'm putting on my rhinoceros skin and preparing myself to finally know for sure if he is or he isn't.  But we've got to get the alleged killer's role done with once and for all.  I'm banking on a not guilty verdict due to a preponderance of false, misleading,  unproven information or fact, of which plenty is already out there.  If heaven forbid it goes the other way, I'll eat my fedora.  If MJ is gone, I won't need it anymore anyway :?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: karmaknowstruth on February 02, 2010, 09:00:26 PM
But then again Murray could squeak out with a short term sentence after all he seems willing to go along with whatever so far.  You know a little plea bargaining goes a long way in the judicial system.   I could see where Murray would play out a short term for the benefit of convincing a death did occur in order for Michael's hoax to remain secret.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: i_need YoU on February 02, 2010, 09:11:31 PM
i need to keep reminding myself that I am here to investigate this hoax...and that means knowing wether or not this is a hoax or not...right now i am still 50/50 because i like to keep my mind clear..
If he is really gone then i am excited for this to go under way and for MJ to have justice lol and if he really is dead then WOW this man sure did go down in history  as the most vague death ever from the helicopter scene to the memorial and funeral WOW Michael sure knows how to leave this earth with a bang
If he really has hoaxed his death then I think he should NOT ever come back especially if Murray is charged heehee he will have some major fines to deal with because he has everyone getting involved like the LAPD the Judge and him skipping out on the concerts and then he will have to face all those fans who bought tickets for the This Is It tour WOW MJ you sure have belt up a pretty big web...

And have i told you guys i dont do too well on rollercoasters  :?  :(  This is the biggest rollercoaster ever and i just hopped on! after June 2010 i will be done with the investigation if he makes no return
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: gwynned on February 02, 2010, 09:19:19 PM
I know what you mean.  I don't do well on rollercoasters either.  I'm getting a little queezy just writing this.  But, He said it would be a great adventure, and what's an adventure without some intrigue, some mystery and uncertainty, not to mention L.O.V.E.........
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on February 02, 2010, 09:22:02 PM
Harvey's (TMZ) quote:  "Keep this in mind.  Reckless endangerment.  Plea bargain."  


 :?:  :!:  :?:  :!:
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: virgo75 on February 02, 2010, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: "MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs"
Harvey's (TMZ) quote:  "Keep this in mind.  Reckless endangerment.  Plea bargain."  


 :?:  :!:  :?:  :!:


You know what????

I'm bout sick of Harvey.   :evil:

He can kiss my uknowwhat.  :evil:
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: WendyE on February 02, 2010, 09:57:22 PM
Wow, this is breaking news. I live in Los Angeles and haven't heard anything but unconfirmed reports. I will watch Larry King tonight (since he and TMZ) happen to know everything about the subject. Every time I hear this sort of thing my heart skips a beat. I am praying that there is no arrest no charges no case. Unless of coarse something did happen to our beloved Michael. If that is the case and I truly believe it isn't I will be at the court house everyday in support and justice for Michael. I really think this is bull because it would be on every channel out here. So far nothing. Anyway, as some one else said, we need to stay cool headed and observant. The media is a liar. I plan to be ever mindful of everything they say as I have been so far. I will be even more vigilant than ever before.
Even if this thing goes to a court room, I will always expect Michael to walk in and say, " Yoo Who, no really it's okay Murray is an actor and I am very much ALIVE.!"
Love and blessing to all.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 02, 2010, 10:19:17 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
just saw this on the front page of MSN.com from the Associated Press.....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35203366/ns ... ?GT1=43001 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35203366/ns/entertainment-celebrities/?GT1=43001)



AP: Jackson’s doc to face manslaughter charge
Official: Prosecutor will file criminal complaint against Conrad Murray

updated 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES - Prosecutors plan to charge Michael Jackson’s doctor with manslaughter rather than take the case to a grand jury, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday.

Prosecutors will file a criminal complaint against Dr. Conrad Murray, who practices in Houston, instead of taking the case before a grand jury, which is done in private, the official said.
The person is not authorized to speak publicly about the case and only spoke on condition of anonymity.

The complaint would be the prelude to a public hearing in which a judge would weigh testimony from witnesses to decide if there is probable cause to try him on an involuntary manslaughter charge.

Jackson died June 25 from an anesthetic overdose. Murray maintains nothing he gave Jackson should have killed him.

Murray arrived in Los Angeles last weekend in anticipation of a charging decision from the district attorney’s office, a spokeswoman said Tuesday.

“Dr. Murray is in Los Angeles for a dual purpose — on family business and to be available for law enforcement,” said spokeswoman Miranda Sevcik. “We’re trying to be as cooperative as we can.”

There is no official word on when an announcement about any charges might come. David Walgren, the deputy Los Angeles County district attorney handling the case, declined to comment Tuesday.

The district attorney’s office has for weeks been working closely with Los Angeles Police Department investigators to build a case against Murray.


Jackson, 50, hired Murray to be his personal physician as he prepared for a strenuous series of comeback performances in London. He died in Los Angeles after Murray administered the powerful general anesthetic propofol and two other sedatives to get the chronic insomniac to sleep, according to the Los Angeles County coroner’s office, which ruled the death a homicide.

Murray has denied any criminal wrongdoing.

“We continue to maintain that Dr. Murray neither prescribed nor administered anything that should have killed Michael Jackson,” Sevcik said.

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

This to me means that it will be public, unlike a grand jury, which would be private.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: darkchild on February 02, 2010, 10:50:17 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
So we cannot see, we cannot beLIEve...  ;)


Exactly!!


So we don't even know if it will take place or not, it if it's kept private!

Pretty Clever I think

I just saw on my local news station tonight that Murray was in LA, and would be turning himself into the LAPD as early as Wednesday morning.  Now this news here that it is not going to the grand jury, and it will be private. I am absolutely gobsmacked :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock: ! Huh :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  My conclusion is that MJ must be alive then. ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: michaelsupporter on February 02, 2010, 11:17:58 PM
At any rate, isn't it convenient how this news comes out after the DVD/Blu-ray release of "This Is It" and the Grammy Award Show????????  Is it just me or does everything seem to be plotted out in a methodical convenient way??????
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: i_need YoU on February 03, 2010, 02:10:39 AM
i wonder who their source though is...TMZ? because if so then i cant believe it until it actually happens...
because we have the media saying he is going to surrender and we have Murrays lawyer saying he is not surrendering...sooo which one do you think i am leaning on to more right now?? Im sorry but the media has proved me so wrong in the last 7 months then i could have ever imagined. Its hard to take anyone seriously
The media reminds me Highschool with all the gossip that spreads the words get twisted and stories change blah blah reminds me of the telephone game my teacher made us play in the 3rd grade to prove to us that what you hear can get twisted
like the first person will say " Michael Jackson is the coolest person ever and is living" and by the time it gets to the end of the line it gets twisted to " Michael Jackson had a cardiac arrest from ODing on Propofol!" WHAT heehee
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: lovemj1990 on February 03, 2010, 02:34:52 AM
is it me or is some people losing faith once again? i hope not. come on, people. DO NOT GIVE UP!! HAVE FAITH!!!!  :o
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kuki on February 03, 2010, 02:40:43 AM
I will just try to stay calm and wait and see what will happen......
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: blue moon on February 03, 2010, 03:31:25 AM
Quote
[Grand jury proceedings are secret. A panel meets, hears evidence and then decides whether to return an indictment. A criminal complaint is a prelude to a public hearing where a judge would weigh testimony from witnesses to decide if there is probable cause to bring a case to trial.

Legal experts debated the reason for the change of strategy.

“It appears they are not too concerned about the dangers of publicity,” said Stan Goldman, criminal law professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. “Maybe they even like the idea.”

/quote]

I think that Murray must face the charches against him, it would be very strange if that doesn's happen. It's strange that Murray is runnig faster than the law to go to trial. They  still must arrange that hearing.
Only when Michael returns we know if we like the outcome of the trial.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Tina K. on February 03, 2010, 04:48:13 AM
I'm totally blown away in my mind , so many different stories :?  I just have to wait and see.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 03, 2010, 08:25:29 AM
see brian oxman - he talks about death and second degree murder?
[youtube:1k1vy0qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQmZfKpQXK8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1k1vy0qr]

[youtube:1k1vy0qr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRUDrnVY9wc[/youtube:1k1vy0qr]
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: badkolo on February 03, 2010, 08:27:23 AM
they are going the easy route with murray, he wont go through much and will not do any jail time.

this whole involuntary manslaughter is a slap on the wrist.

if you think murray is doing any jail time then i have a bridge to sell you real cheap.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 03, 2010, 08:31:15 AM
[youtube:3qek9t5p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1H1UQ9i2M&feature=fvsr[/youtube:3qek9t5p]
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 03, 2010, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: "badkolo"
they are going the easy route with murray, he wont go through much and will not do any jail time.

this whole involuntary manslaughter is a slap on the wrist.

if you think murray is doing any jail time then i have a bridge to sell you real cheap.
joker :lol:
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on February 03, 2010, 10:37:42 AM
Channel 11 this morning (Feb. 4th) reported:
Jacksons feel inv. manslaughter is a "slap on the wrist."
After criminal charges are filed, Murray's lawyers are set to post bond so that he can get back to work.

(Yes, this is a local/L.A. news channel.  And YES, they are saying "according to TMZ who has sources w/in the DA's office.")    

 :?:  :?:  :?:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :?:    :shock:


Quote from: "WendyE"
Wow, this is breaking news. I live in Los Angeles and haven't heard anything but unconfirmed reports. I will watch Larry King tonight (since he and TMZ) happen to know everything about the subject. Every time I hear this sort of thing my heart skips a beat. I am praying that there is no arrest no charges no case. Unless of coarse something did happen to our beloved Michael. If that is the case and I truly believe it isn't I will be at the court house everyday in support and justice for Michael. I really think this is bull because it would be on every channel out here. So far nothing. Anyway, as some one else said, we need to stay cool headed and observant. The media is a liar. I plan to be ever mindful of everything they say as I have been so far. I will be even more vigilant than ever before.
Even if this thing goes to a court room, I will always expect Michael to walk in and say, " Yoo Who, no really it's okay Murray is an actor and I am very much ALIVE.!"
Love and blessing to all.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Lady J on February 03, 2010, 10:47:30 AM
you guyz, I am afraid! I have to keep the faith, but WHAT IF THEY ARREST HIM AND HE GOES TO JAIL? THEN IT`S OVER FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :cry:
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 03, 2010, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: "MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs"
Channel 11 this morning (Feb. 4th) reported:
Jacksons feel inv. manslaughter is a "slap on the wrist."
After criminal charges are filed, Murray's lawyers are set to post bond so that he can get back to work.
(Yes, this is a local/L.A. news channel.  And YES, they are saying "according to TMZ who has sources w/in the DA's office.")    

 :?:  :?:  :?:  :!:  :!:  :!:  :?:    :shock:


Quote from: "WendyE"
Wow, this is breaking news. I live in Los Angeles and haven't heard anything but unconfirmed reports. I will watch Larry King tonight (since he and TMZ) happen to know everything about the subject. Every time I hear this sort of thing my heart skips a beat. I am praying that there is no arrest no charges no case. Unless of coarse something did happen to our beloved Michael. If that is the case and I truly believe it isn't I will be at the court house everyday in support and justice for Michael. I really think this is bull because it would be on every channel out here. So far nothing. Anyway, as some one else said, we need to stay cool headed and observant. The media is a liar. I plan to be ever mindful of everything they say as I have been so far. I will be even more vigilant than ever before.
Even if this thing goes to a court room, I will always expect Michael to walk in and say, " Yoo Who, no really it's okay Murray is an actor and I am very much ALIVE.!"
Love and blessing to all.


What the bleepity bleep? They want him to post bond so he can get back to work???? This guy actually still has patients?? NO!!! cus he is not a doctor!!!



OMG this is toooooo good!!
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: loyalfan on February 03, 2010, 11:26:32 AM
DOES ANY OF YOU THINK THAT ....IF....IF.....THIS GOES AHEAD.......MICHEAL WILL PUT UP HIS HAND AND SAY....."..O.K. ITS A FAIR COP"  I AM ALIVE...?????....SURELY HE WONT SEE SOMEONE GO TO JAIL!!! ANSWERS PLEASE..........XXXXX
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 03, 2010, 11:34:05 AM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Quote from: "MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs"
Harvey's (TMZ) quote:  "Keep this in mind.  Reckless endangerment.  Plea bargain."  


 :?:  :!:  :?:  :!:


You know what????

I'm bout sick of Harvey.   :evil:

He can kiss my uknowwhat.  :evil:
your funny
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: ENGELINHIER on February 03, 2010, 11:43:27 AM
If we never get to see it, we have the hoax and If we do: Could it not be a making of a film like the funeral???  :D
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 03, 2010, 11:46:50 AM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
I am ready.  This is the cliff hanger in my opinion to the whole story.  Once the Murray role is out of the way, then things can start moving swiftly towards the REAL truth.  So, I'm putting on my rhinoceros skin and preparing myself to finally know for sure if he is or he isn't.  But we've got to get the alleged killer's role done with once and for all.  I'm banking on a not guilty verdict due to a preponderance of false, misleading,  unproven information or fact, of which plenty is already out there.  If heaven forbid it goes the other way, I'll eat my fedora.  If MJ is gone, I won't need it anymore anyway :?
oh so sad
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: rowdyangel on February 03, 2010, 12:26:21 PM
Stay strong people.  Looks like the ride is going to get very bumpy.  Keep your sensible heads on and don't be led astray by people who will probably come into the forum and start causing even more confusion.  If we all stick together we CAN get through this!!!

XXXXXX
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: alovesmichael on February 03, 2010, 01:13:41 PM
ok, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. However, here's an ugly thought: What if Murray receives a very mild sentence? A lot of you guys will probably be happy about that since it could mean it was all planned and to make it look more real he needs to get punished, right? BUT, what if Michael really is gone and Murray still receives a mild sentence? This is what's making me feel very torn apart right now... :( Non-believers will most definitely be very very upset and since I'm still questioning everything... I don't know how I'll react to the outcome and it's making me very confused and tired  :?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: ghepardo on February 03, 2010, 01:18:59 PM
I have read and heard the news about Murray on TV and the Internet.
I was wondering this : where are the other journalists?
TMZ is only informed about the facts of Murray. Why no one else has ever interviewed Murray or his lawyers.
Why do all refer to tmz to give the news??

maybe tmz has so good journalist than others ???

i don't think so  ;)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: hope on February 03, 2010, 01:23:36 PM
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
ok, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. However, here's an ugly thought: What if Murray receives a very mild sentence? A lot of you guys will probably be happy about that since it could mean it was all planned and to make it look more real he needs to get punished, right? BUT, what if Michael really is gone and Murray still receives a mild sentence? This is what's making me feel very torn apart right now... :( Non-believers will most definitely be very very upset and since I'm still questioning everything... I don't know how I'll react to the outcome and it's making me very confused and tired  :?
:o  You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the EXACT same way. IF michael is dead, I want Murray to pay the ultimate price. I'm very torn as well, but still hanging in there. :?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 03, 2010, 01:29:48 PM
Quote from: "ghepardo"
I have read and heard the news about Murray on TV and the Internet.
I was wondering this : where are the other journalists?
TMZ is only informed about the facts of Murray. Why no one else has ever interviewed Murray or his lawyers.
Why do all refer to tmz to give the news??

maybe tmz has so good journalist than others ???

i don't think so  ;)
they must have had him followed day and night

but it does seem that the worlds press are not that interested
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: supermj4eva on February 03, 2010, 02:03:54 PM
ok now, i have been saying since june the 25th, the second he "died" that i dont think michael jackson is really dead ....
but i must admitt this is the most confusing part of all of this and whatever is going to happen within the next few days is going to be big. i am so confused right now.
but even if we all winesstness murry go down then it could still be part of the hoax. its all really confusing right now lol
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 03, 2010, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
ok, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. However, here's an ugly thought: What if Murray receives a very mild sentence? A lot of you guys will probably be happy about that since it could mean it was all planned and to make it look more real he needs to get punished, right? BUT, what if Michael really is gone and Murray still receives a mild sentence? This is what's making me feel very torn apart right now... :( Non-believers will most definitely be very very upset and since I'm still questioning everything... I don't know how I'll react to the outcome and it's making me very confused and tired  :?
:o  You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the EXACT same way. IF michael is dead, I want Murray to pay the ultimate price. I'm very torn as well, but still hanging in there. :?

I have the feeling, that if Michael REALLY died, and Murray will be sentenced, that he will not live that long anymore...
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: King_Michael on February 03, 2010, 09:18:40 PM
I would of believed this if they charged him in July but they waited 7 months to charge him? it doesn't make sense nothing is adding up which is why this is all planned, it's MICHAEL JACKSON your telling me they wouldnt try to find the guy who killed the biggest star in the universe and just take there sweet time, keep the faith guys no one said it would be easy ;)
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: i_need YoU on February 04, 2010, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
I would of believed this if they charged him in July but they waited 7 months to charge him? it doesn't make sense nothing is adding up which is why this is all planned, it's MICHAEL JACKSON your telling me they wouldnt try to find the guy who killed the biggest star in the universe and just take there sweet time, keep the faith guys no one said it would be easy ;)
of course they would take their sweet time...remember in 2005 when the allegations crap was going on...the LAPD already had their minds set that Michael was guilty. They abused him, invaded his privacy, and humiliated him. They had no respect for out Michael and I think that if michael really is dead then thats also playing a role into why they are putting MJ on the back burner and taking care of other nonsense...
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: msteetee34 on February 04, 2010, 01:16:01 AM
I thought tomorrow 2/4/2010 was the day that they will decide if Murray will be forced to surrender according to E! news.  They discussed possible charges for Murray on the show today.  One of the journalist was talking to one of Murrays people about him surrendering and he made a statement saying that he doesn't think that is going to happen.  If Murray really was facing manslaughter charges then why is this dude still free on the streets?  This doesn't even seem like proper procedure to me.  It seems like he should be in jail waiting for sentencing or he should have already been arrested when it first happened and released only by paying bail.  That's why I don't buy this whole case.  Just think about it Murray could have just left the country if he wanted to since he's free.  He also returned back to work even though he's suspected of negligence.  The fact that he is so eager to surrender raises an eyebrow for me too like he already knows he's not going to be charged.  Also funny that journalist and media were waiting outside the courthouse today to see Murray but that did not happen.  I really think this whole thing is gonna play out that Murray will be innocent and then the whole case will be closed.  That's my opinion of what's going to happen because I really do feel that MJ is still living and they have to let this thing play out.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: i_need YoU on February 04, 2010, 01:56:37 AM
Quote from: msteetee34
I thought tomorrow 2/4/2010 was the day that they will decide if Murray will be forced to surrender quote]
things changed now its not until friday morning lol...see how they keep changing their story...im getting sick and tired of it actually... I wouldnt be surprised anymore if it didnt happen
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Scream on February 04, 2010, 02:50:10 AM
I'm not surprised this is taking a long time. There isn't allot of evidence to put together a convincing prosecution (No tapes, missing hard drives, etc) and it makes it look like their dragging their feet.

I'm confident CM will be prosecuted but I don't think the sentence will be as harsh as it should be.

Medical Liscence being revoked, suspended prison sentence.. that kind of deal.

This is assuming he passed, of course.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 04, 2010, 04:09:42 AM
Its 5 am on thursday here in the US and I just saw on the national news that Murray will be charged TOMORROW. They showed a vid of him getting out of a car and kissing a woman on the cheek. Damn that man is tall!!!

Anyways...thats the latest....lets see if tomorrow really happens..
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: alovesmichael on February 04, 2010, 06:11:59 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
ok, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. However, here's an ugly thought: What if Murray receives a very mild sentence? A lot of you guys will probably be happy about that since it could mean it was all planned and to make it look more real he needs to get punished, right? BUT, what if Michael really is gone and Murray still receives a mild sentence? This is what's making me feel very torn apart right now... :( Non-believers will most definitely be very very upset and since I'm still questioning everything... I don't know how I'll react to the outcome and it's making me very confused and tired  :?
:o  You took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the EXACT same way. IF michael is dead, I want Murray to pay the ultimate price. I'm very torn as well, but still hanging in there. :?

I have the feeling, that if Michael REALLY died, and Murray will be sentenced, that he will not live that long anymore...

What do you mean, like someone would kill or something? Wouldn't someone already have done that then? I mean non-believers. If he really is guilty and gets away with a fine or something I will be so so mad and sad at the same time  :(  :x
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Lady J on February 04, 2010, 08:54:20 AM
Is the hoax over now?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 04, 2010, 09:54:58 AM
Quote from: "Lady J"
Is the hoax over now?


No, its not over. Lets see what happens with Murray.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Tina K. on February 04, 2010, 09:56:36 AM
If murray gets arrested tomorrow 5/2, thats 5+2=7  :?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: teine21 on February 04, 2010, 10:04:28 AM
@msteetee34 - That's exactly how I feel! We'll just have to wait & see what happens on Friday, 2/5/2010. Can we watch it? TMZ said a camera was going to record it, but I haven't heard that anywhere else.
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 04, 2010, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: "teine21"
@msteetee34 - That's exactly how I feel! We'll just have to wait & see what happens on Friday, 2/5/2010. Can we watch it? TMZ said a camera was going to record it, but I haven't heard that anywhere else.


TMZ!! Of course!! Who woulda thought that ABC News would be there? OR CNN??

@Tina K.......oh god!! I never thought of that!! LOL...it would be even wierder if they nabbed him on the 7th.... :shock:
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: gwynned on February 04, 2010, 10:35:01 AM
Note that the source came from an anonymous person in the LAPD.  Nothing official.  TMZ reported yesterday that bail would be set at 25K.  Not very much.  My guess is that, IF he turns himself in, he will be let out on bail, allowing for further delay.  AND why is it that only TMZ gets the news.  Who is actually feeding the information to TMZ.  Is it the LAPD or MJ?  Keep the faith!
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kuki on February 04, 2010, 11:17:44 AM
Here in the Netherlands all media point to TMZ to be the source of their information......

Just wait and see...... so far I am keeping my faith!!
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 04, 2010, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: "gwynned"
Note that the source came from an anonymous person in the LAPD.  Nothing official.  TMZ reported yesterday that bail would be set at 25K.  Not very much.  My guess is that, IF he turns himself in, he will be let out on bail, allowing for further delay.  AND why is it that only TMZ gets the news.  Who is actually feeding the information to TMZ.  Is it the LAPD or MJ?  Keep the faith!
maybe TMZ knows where mike is, and whether CM will get off, do they have a crystal ball?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: the arabian nights on February 04, 2010, 01:20:06 PM
if it was not for TMZ would the worlds  media be interested at all?
Title: Re: *****UPDATE*****Murray to face Manslaughter
Post by: Kuki on February 04, 2010, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
if it was not for TMZ would the worlds  media be interested at all?


i wonder.....
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