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Title: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: ~Souza~ on February 02, 2010, 09:04:03 AM
Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet - Part 1

Aug 4th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports
Source: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676 (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676)


The symbolism surrounding Lady Gaga is so blatant that one might wonder if it’s all a sick joke. Illuminati symbolism is becoming so clear that analyses like this one becomes a simple exercise of pointing out the obvious. Her whole persona (whether its an act or not) is a tribute to mind control, where being vacuous, incoherent and absent minded becomes a fashionable thing.

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Essential Background Information

What do you mean by “mind control”? I suggest you research “project MK Ultra” to get a little background information on the subject. Here’s a quick overview taken from the surprisingly accurate Wikipedia:

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Project MK-ULTRA, or MKULTRA, was the code name for a covert CIA mind-control and chemical interrogation research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. The program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States citizens as its test subjects. The published evidence indicates that Project MK-ULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.

Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms’ destruction order.

Although the CIA insists that MK-ULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MK-ULTRA was abandoned a “cover story.”

An outgrowth of that project is unofficially referred to as “Project Monarch”. It is a mind control technique which exposes the subject to a trauma so violent that his/her mind creates a dissociation. The victim’s brain becomes compartmentalized and a new personality, which is then molded and educated  by the manipulators, emerges.

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“When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly. There is also a symbolic representation pertaining to the transformation or metamorphosis of this beautiful insect: from a caterpillar to a cocoon (dormancy, inactivity), to a butterfly (new creation) which will return to its point of origin. Such is the migratory pattern that makes this species unique.”

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Butterfly Symbolism

During their reeducation, subjects are said to be exposed to numerous symbols such as trees, spider webs, masks, mazes, butterflies, etc. They are also shown movies which contain specific symbols (or “triggers”) such as The Wizard of Oz and many Disney Movies. The same way those subjects are brainwashed and reeducated, mass media conducts a large scale mind control project, which starts at birth with Disney movies and continues with Hollywood flicks and music videos.

OMG! What does this crazy stuff has to do with Lady Gaga? I luv her!!

What we must retain here is the symbolism Monarch project engendered and its use in mass media. Monarch is a type of butterfly and became the ultimate “insider’s”symbol of mind control. Symbolism surrounding Lady Gaga, in her pictures and videos, mixes those symbols with occultism of secret societies..  Her vacuous, robotic and slightly degenerate persona embodies all the “symptoms” of a mind control victim. Let’s look at what Lady Gaga represents, starting by the basics: her name


Her Name

Gaga is a term that immediately refers to absent mindedness. Here are some synonyms taken from a thesaurus:

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*Given to lighthearted silliness: empty-headed, featherbrained, flighty, frivolous, frothy, giddy, harebrained, lighthearted, scatterbrained, silly. Slang birdbrained, dizzy.
*Afflicted with or exhibiting irrationality and mental unsoundness: brainsick, crazy, daft, demented, disordered, distraught, dotty, insane, lunatic, mad, maniac, maniacal, mentally ill, moonstruck, off, touched, unbalanced, unsound, wrong.

“Gaga” is probably the easiest word to say in the English language, as it is often the first sound emitted by babies trying to imitate speech. So her name basically says: I’m a lady and I’m empty-headed. This empty head can filled with any crap you want. Imitate me young people. This state of mind is achieved after successful mind control.

Her name is also said to be inspired by  Queen’s song “Radio Gaga”. The video of this song contains many scenes of the 1927 movie Metropolis.  As seen in my article on Beyonce/Sasha Fierce, the motion picture tells the story of a woman from the working class that was chosen by the elite to give life to a robot, through a mix of science and Black magic.

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Scene from Metropolis – Maria giving her likeness to a robot. Is this a metaphor for mind control? Notice the inverted pentagram in the background: Black magic and Satanism.

This robot becomes a sexy and alluring performer and is given the goal to corrupt the working class. References to this movie abound in music videos, as if it was very significant for the occult elite. Madonna, Beyonce, Kylie Minogue and many others have taken the likeness of this female robot and, as you’ll see in the “Paparazzi” video, Lady Gaga also continues this “tradition”.


Her Logo

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Her logo is pretty revealing and particularly fitting. Its a headless female body with a bolt of lightning  going through her and exiting  her genitalia. There is once again a focus on the lack of conscious thought by the singer. The body looks like the weird headless mannequins you find at clothing stores. The bolt of lightning implies that her thoughtless body has been “charged” with a force that gives it life (interesting note: trauma-based mind control is often induced using electro-shock treatments).


All-Seeing Eye Symbolism

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You only need to look at a couple of Lady Gaga pictures or videos to notice that she is constantly hiding one of her eyes. Most people will simply interpret this  as ”a cool thing to do” or a “fashion statement”. Those who have passed the 101 of Illuminati symbolism know that the All-Seeing Eye is probably its most recognizable symbol. The gesture of hiding one eye, usually the left one, goes way back in occult orders. Here’s an explanation of the origin of the Eye of Horus.

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Horus, the sun of Osiris and Isis was called ‘Horus who rules with two eyes’. His right eye was white and represented the sun: his left eye was black and represented the moon. According to the myth, Horus lost his left eye to his evil brother, Seth, who he fought to avenge Seth’s murder of Osiris. Seth tore out of the eye but lost the fight. The eye was reassembled by magic, by Thoth, the god of writing, the moon and magic. Horus presented his eye to Osiris, who experienced rebirth in the underworld.
-Dictionary of the Occult

One thing is for sure: Lady is Gaga for the All-Seeing Eye.

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This last picture is very significant. It confirms the fact that the closed eye is used in the context of esoteric symbolism. Her left eye is in her hand, referring to the Hand of Fatima (evil eye). Also, one can’t ignore the resemblance with good ol’ Baphomet.

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All Seeing Eye on the backs of Gaga’s dancers during her Monster Tour.

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Baphomet Reminiscent horns

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How about this ad…could there by more pyramids and eyes?

[youtube:2at70hk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCCqgvUwNl0[/youtube:2at70hk1]


Her Videos

Almost all of Lady Gaga’s videos contain occult symbolism and not-so-subtle hints referring to mind control. We’ll first look at a short video used as an intro during her tour.

INTRO TOUR VIDEO

[youtube:2at70hk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF9IcNBjLxQ[/youtube:2at70hk1]

Lady G is talking in a vaporous  and robotic way, as if she was lobotomized, about a man who “swallowed her brain”.  Gaga is questioned by a man who is talking in a very strange and hypnotic matter. If this is not about mind control, I have no idea what its about.

PAPARAZZI VIDEO

[youtube:2at70hk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jONjwKq-w[/youtube:2at70hk1]

This video is loaded with symbolism but we’ll focus on the main story. It basically describes the fall and rise to the top of Lady Gaga, who, during the process, went through a huge metamorphosis.

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Lady is in a bedroom with  her boyfriend and they’re “getting it on”. Notice the Masonic checkerboard pattern on the wall and a ram’s head, representing Satanism. He takes her outside on the balcony (which also features a checkerboard pattern). After noticing cameras taking pictures, the guy starts acting strangely and things get violent. He finally pushes Lady off the balcony.

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While falling down, the background becomes a swirling pattern, typically associated with hypnotism. Lady Gaga falls down rather stylishly, hinting the fact that this descent is not physical. It represents the “trauma” victims of mind control have to go through in order to be “rebuilt from scratch”.

Lady Gaga then enters a mansion in a wheel chair and gradually takes off her clothes.

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She slowly starts walking, with the help of crutches, representing her reeducation by the occult elite (she is inside a mansion). She is dressed like a robot, hinting Maria from the movie Metropolis, as seen above. Another scene shows her dancing in a half white/half black wedding dress. This signifies her (forced) association with the “dark Brotherhood”. Her transformation is then complete.

We then see her next to the boyfriend that pushed her off the balcony.

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She is wearing Mickey Mouse clothes, hinting once again Monarch programming. She is behaving in a very robotic way, as if her thoughts and actions were controlled by someone else. Gaga then proceeds to poison the guy and smiles very weirdly about it. The fact that she murdered her boyfriend refers to the level “Delta” of the Monarch project, which is also known as the “killer” programming. Here’s a description of it

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DELTA. This is known as “killer” programming, originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear; very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level.
-Dr. Corydon Hammond, Project Monarch Programming Definitions

After carrying out her murderous mission, Lady Gaga is more popular than ever and reaps the rewards of being an Illuminati slave.

If you are still doubtful of the occult themes of this videos, check out this snapshot from the Behind the Scenes video of Parazzi.

[youtube:2at70hk1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXkiDA1bSec[/youtube:2at70hk1]

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The director of the Paparazzi is wearing a Venom shirt, bearing the face of Baphomet and the Sigil of the Church of Satan. So, there is a chance  that the director is slightly aware of those kinds of things.  

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Sigil of Anton Lavey’s Church of Satan

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Literally bound by “the Illuminated”


To Conclude

Lady Gaga incorporates in her videos, photos and shows symbolism that refers to the Illuminati and mind control. Her symbolism is deep, esoteric and even spiritual yet she makes song like “Just Dance” which is about being totally numb. This paradoxical aspect of Lady Gaga is something that deserves to be analyzed and understood. While masses of young people imitate Gaga’s gestures, her act is part of a bigger system that incorporates many other stars with the same symbolism.  She is creative and a gifted song writer. But at the end of the day, the “Lady Gaga” persona is a Fame Monster, doing everything required to be an international superstar, including incorporating in her act the symbolism of the elite, making her an Illuminati puppet.

What’s your opinion on the subject, Lady Gaga?

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That’s what I thought.



Lady Gaga, the Illuminati Puppet – Part 2

Oct 29th, 2009 | By Vigilant | Category: Vigilant Reports
Source: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2614 (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2614)


This article is the second part of Lady Gaga, the Illuminati Puppet. The first article, published in August 2009, analyzed the occult meaning behind Gaga’s photo shoots and videos. We’ve seen that a great deal of her symbolism revolves around occultism, secret societies and references to mind control. This article analyzes Gaga’s latest media and the fact her symbolism is still permeated by the same themes.

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My first article on Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta called “Lady Gaga, the Illuminati Puppet“ generated a great deal of interest and controversy. It got featured on many websites and I was deemed either a “genius” or “batshit crazy” depending on the point of view. I can confirm that I’m neither of those two things and that I’m just a guy who knows his symbolism. Many news sites and blogs linked to my article by deforming its original intent (probably for more sensationalism) by adding sarcastic remarks like “Oh No Lady Gaga Wants to Control our Minds!” or “The Crazy Lady Gaga Conspiracy“. I guess those reactions were to be expected. To people who are not acquainted with obscure concepts such as Monarch programming and occult symbolism, the whole thing might sound totally far fetched and ridiculous. But to those who have background knowledge and who have researched these topics (a small minority), I was simply stating the obvious.

Since this article, Gaga has released more material re-using  exactly the same  themes as were discussed in the first article: mind control and secret society occultism. I have to hand it to Gaga, she knows how to generate buzz and controversy around her persona and keep people guessing. The great majority of people still have no idea what her symbolism refers to. So, at the risk of being called “batshit crazy” again here’s Lady Gaga’s latest occult pictures.


Masonic Photo Shoot

In my articles on Lady Gaga and the 2009 VMAs, I’ve identified the use and display of elements taken from Masonic symbolism. If my previous claims were considered inconclusive or “grasping at straws” by some, I wonder if they’ll remain skeptical of the presence of Masonic symbolism in pop culture after seeing this  set of photos, taken INSIDE A MASONIC LODGE,

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If you have minimal knowledge of Freemasonry, you already know the great importance of the twin pillars Jachim and Boaz. They are depicted in a great number of Masonic works of art, such as this one.

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Gaga is standing between both pillars, wearing Hello Kitty shoes, occultly referring to mind control programming (innocence, childhood, re-education, etc). Her eyes are closed but she has wide-open eyes painted on her eyelids, which is very symbolic: her eyes seem open but they are still wide shut.

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In the picture above, Gaga is sitting on a Masonic throne, complete with the twin pillars on each side of her. Above her head is the compass of Freemasonry:

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She is wearing a Hello Kitty dress and posing in a very mannequin-like stance. Her hands are positioned in way reminiscent of iconic art which displays the hermetic maxim “as above so below”.

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In the  picture above, Gaga is standing next to the bust of an important Mason (easily recognizable by the collar). The “one eye” symbolism discussed in the previous article is still an intricate part of Gaga’s imagery. She is however far from being the only artist doing this (see Rihanna’s R Rated album cover). Hello Kitty is covering Gaga’s…kitty in another odd juxtaposition of Masonic symbolism with mind control, often found in entertainment photo shoots.


Maria from Metropolis Strikes Back

In the previous article, I’ve mentioned that the name “Lady Gaga” was taken from the Queen video Radio Gaga, in which many scenes were taken from the movie Metropolis. This movie is known for its highly occult themes (Black Magic, sacrifices to the pagan god Moloch, mind control, the whore of Babylon) and is very often referred to in the music industry.

In the movie, Maria, a girl from the working class, is “chosen” by the elite to give her likeness to a mind-controlled robot in order to confuse the masses. There is a dichotomy between the real and the false Maria that is also found in Gaga’s latest offering called Fame Monster.

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In the above image, Gaga’s hairstyle is extremely similar to the robot Maria seen here:

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In this scene from Fritz’s Metropolis, the android Maria is meant to embody the “whore of Babylon” from Revelation 17:

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“So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.”

-Revelation 17

The false Lady Gaga is opposed to the real, natural and apparently unhappy Lady Gaga.

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Other Mind Control Related Pictures

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This metallic head is a pretty blatant reference to an alternate personality, as developed in MK Ultra programming.

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A literal veil in front of her eyes.

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Is it Baphomet’s head on her head?

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Living in a programmed reality


In Conclusion

Since the publishing of the first article, Lady Gaga’s symbolism has continued to exploit the same themes as were previously discussed. Although she is very smart and educated in symbolism, the settings of the pictures are the creations of photographers, stylists and other “consultants”. Whether she is commenting on the mind control phenomenon in mass media or simply a victim of it is still hard to determine but one thing is for sure: the symbolism is there and that’s the goal of the article. What is more unsettling is the fact that those themes are not exclusive to Gaga. They are associated with many acts in the music and the fashion industry to a point that one inevitably realizes that these artists are pawns of a greater machine, pushing its symbols through various outlets. References to mind control, to secret societies, to Baphomet and to Metropolis are too widespread to be coincidences or results of artistic expression. There is an obvious media campaign pushing these elements into pop culture. What should we do about it? MTV says: Just dance.

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Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: somekindofsign on February 02, 2010, 12:41:14 PM
Wow Souza!
You´re inspired today!
All those threads...  :lol:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: virgo75 on February 02, 2010, 12:41:20 PM
Thanks for posting this.

I always felt that Lady Gaga was a "tool" of some sort.
There seemed to be a lot of time, effort, & $$ put into fabricating her image, videos, and "music"(if you want to call it that..).

Makes me wonder though:

There are some people on here who seem to think that she is "speaking for" Michael and/or he was really into her and wanted to work with her.

I don't really believe either, but anything's possible.

What do you think of the couple of quotes of people saying that MJ wanted to work with her? (I think the quote was from the choreographer, what's his name?)

I read on another site that it was just nonsense to still try to link MJ with the NWO and pretend he was still under their control.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: Believe 777 on February 02, 2010, 01:22:04 PM
Wow there is a lot of info here. There is also a very positive viewpoint to all this here which makes perfect sense to me:-

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4627 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4627)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: misha86 on February 02, 2010, 09:26:44 PM
The sad part about all of this is that she is targeting kids, kids love her and beyonce and yet they have no idea what they are really listening to
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: GirlSaturday on February 02, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
Lady Gaga is the puzzle piece that doesn't fit. Most of the  other symbolism is subtle and sneaky to be honest. Lady Gaga just smacks in the face. You're almost tempted to believe that she isn't in on it but using it as a joke to get her payday with shock value. I was first introduced to Lady Gaga during the VMAs. She seemed talented but over the top as someone trying just a wee bit too hard to shock.   At her current pace, how long will Lady Gaga's candle continue to burn? Maybe the fans of this performer can address that for me. Do you guys who closely follow  Lady Gaga see her as a someone  who will have an impact on pop culture 5, 10, or 15+ years from now with the stage show that she has to offer?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: misha86 on February 02, 2010, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
Lady Gaga is the puzzle piece that doesn't fit. Most of the  other symbolism is subtle and sneaky to be honest. Lady Gaga just smacks in the face. You're almost tempted to believe that she isn't in on it but using it as a joke to get her payday with shock value. I was first introduced to Lady Gaga during the VMAs. She seemed talented but over the top as someone trying just a wee bit too hard to shock.   At her current pace, how long will Lady Gaga's candle continue to burn? Maybe the fans of this performer can address that for me. Do you guys who closely follow  Lady Gaga see her as a someone  who will have an impact on pop culture 5, 10, or 15+ years from now with the stage show that she has to offer?
Yea she will because they will force her to me, and yes it seems to in your face to be real
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: i_need YoU on February 02, 2010, 11:46:22 PM
I LOVE Lady Gaga but I am also very aware that the illuminati is somehow in the mixing with her because of all the symbolisms but for some reason I still love her...her videos seem so genious and well thought out with so much symbolism and i love her style because she is not afraid to stand out.. and i DO think she will be in the music business for a VERY long time much much longer..
I have a few questions though about the illuminati because i am a firm believer that this could have been what has hurt Michael...alot of fans on this forum now hate her because she is linked to the illuminati and the illuminati got MJ. MJ was still a very good person so how can the illuminati make Gaga a bad person? Also how does the illuminati hurt us if they are affecting Gaga? like arent they just symbols? arent they hurting Gaga not us? Because her music is still good and i havent turned into some demon...amd i making sense...lets try to clear it up a bit...
OK Gaga is the new Puppet right? So what is her role with us? Like what is their goal for her to do with us?? Its so confusing i dont know how to explain it nevermind.. she is not hurting anyone by the way she dresses or what she sings...and she is not a BAD PERSON!! if you say she is then so is MJ bcuz he was used for the MKULTRA to apparently...another question how do the illuminati pick their victims?
Another question...are you saying the "illuminati" are helping Gaga become succesful and that is why she is wearing their symbols because they are helping her be succesful?
NVM THIS IS GAY AND IT JUS makes me more confused as to how this is so bad??? HOW COME ITS SO BAD??? and no the Illuminati didnt kill Jackson...the government did...and who is the Illuminati anyway? is just some invisible thing with no names or people...c'mon someone please clear this up because now im just confused and angry!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: mjiloveu on February 03, 2010, 05:36:14 AM
Lady Gaga is amazing.. she is different from other artists because she is crazy

but saying she was an illuminati puppet is too crazy for me!
1000000% Lady Gaga is neither on the hoax nor has she something to do with
the illuminati.
She is just crazy and nothing more!!! she has done weird things Before she got famous not only now!!

If you take a closer look you will think every artist is connected to the illuminati!
some things are just coincidence!!!
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: mjiloveu on February 03, 2010, 05:38:01 AM
Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
Lady Gaga is the puzzle piece that doesn't fit. Most of the  other symbolism is subtle and sneaky to be honest. Lady Gaga just smacks in the face. You're almost tempted to believe that she isn't in on it but using it as a joke to get her payday with shock value. I was first introduced to Lady Gaga during the VMAs. She seemed talented but over the top as someone trying just a wee bit too hard to shock.   At her current pace, how long will Lady Gaga's candle continue to burn? Maybe the fans of this performer can address that for me. Do you guys who closely follow  Lady Gaga see her as a someone  who will have an impact on pop culture 5, 10, or 15+ years from now with the stage show that she has to offer?
Yea she will because they will force her to me, and yes it seems to in your face to be real


in some years i can see lady gaga in the position of Madonna! The queen of pop!!!
who else should be? Country singer Taylor Swift?haha =D
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: mjiloveu on February 03, 2010, 05:43:44 AM
If Lady gaga is an illuminati puppet...... then im Santa Clause

honestly guys, open ur eyes lol
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: virgo75 on February 03, 2010, 07:55:38 AM
Quote from: "mjiloveu"
If Lady gaga is an illuminati puppet...... then im Santa Clause

honestly guys, open ur eyes lol


SANTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still didn't get my pony.   :(

and where's my michael???
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: GirlSaturday on February 03, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
What happened to the diamond tennis bracelet?
That's the last time I will sit on your lap and share my wish list.  :lol:

Quote from: "mjiloveu"
If Lady gaga is an illuminati puppet...... then im Santa Clause

honestly guys, open ur eyes lol
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: bluegurl201 on February 05, 2010, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: "virgo75"
Quote from: "mjiloveu"
If Lady gaga is an illuminati puppet...... then im Santa Clause

honestly guys, open ur eyes lol


SANTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still didn't get my pony.   :(

and where's my michael???
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: ROFL on February 05, 2010, 07:08:05 PM
Ive read that also and thanks for leting it on your forum =)

People please open your eyes , this is more obvious than  on any other artist -_- , this makes me sick , people can't believe  she is a damn puppet just cos she is AWESOME !! i don't give a damn how awesome she is , still she is A PUPPET , who promote their symbols and all their crap

sick sick sick of you XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!

thanks souza , and ignore the negative comments , they keep laughing -_- OMG sick of that hahahaha *going crazy* lol

 :D
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: lotus_sutra on March 12, 2010, 07:35:42 AM
Have you seen her latest masterpiece along with puppeteer Beyonce...please while watching open your mind and view with an artists eye  ;) (warning if you are prudeish in any way you will be offended by this so do not watch, lol!)

[youtube:klsacrat]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ95z6ywcBY[/youtube:klsacrat]

Notice all the American symbolism, Beyonce as a robotic puppet, zoom-in on the 'drive-thru' cup (we just heard from the bodyguards how MJ would love to go through the drive-thru and order himself), etc... please add more as you come across them!!!
peace, love and sanity to all of you  ;)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: CrazyBanana on March 12, 2010, 09:00:32 AM
to me, I feel she is struggling... sometimes shes off message other times she's back promoting all this crap! I feel sorry for her..
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 12, 2010, 09:10:46 AM
I'm quite shocked with her new video, it's encouraging alot of things and don't forget the symbolism... Wow.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: mjfansince4 on March 12, 2010, 03:37:56 PM
what if she's mocking it? the illuminati, i mean. if her symbolism is so blatant, couldn't she be aware of it and instead of being their puppet, she's actually telling them "i know and f you." i dont know. she seems to be to be a pretty strong woman. do people who are "programmed" know that they are spreading this message and are promoting it? should she be held accountable or should we pity her?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: Believe 777 on March 12, 2010, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
what if she's mocking it? the illuminati, i mean. if her symbolism is so blatant, couldn't she be aware of it and instead of being their puppet, she's actually telling them "i know and f you." i dont know. she seems to be to be a pretty strong woman. do people who are "programmed" know that they are spreading this message and are promoting it? should she be held accountable or should we pity her?

I think you're right. I believe Gaga is a very strong and independent woman and she knows exactly what she is doing. I think we should look past her promoting the Illuminati and see her as exposing them. She has only been involved in the music industry in this way for a relatively short time so this could mean she did not receive the same level of mind control as others have, if any, but she obviously knows all about it.
The lyrics are very significant if you look at the people trying to call her as the Illuminati and she can't hear them and is telling to stop calling because her head and heart are on the dance floor. ie, I/we have woken up to your mind control program and are now free and you have no power over us!    
Yes her videos are shocking, but they need to be so she gets noticed.
I can see this clearly also with her VMA and Grammy performance's as they have the same 'breaking free' theme.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on March 12, 2010, 04:25:14 PM
Wow, that new video is kind of disturbing.  Too much blatant sex and violence for a music video.  I'm surprised Beyonce is involved in this, well not really.  I've heard Beyonce is a puppet too, and Jay-Z is a full fledged Freemason.  I've learned a little bit about symbolism, but I'm not that good.  Hopefully someone will break down this video for me, lol.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: Sarahli on March 12, 2010, 06:17:23 PM
I think that if the illuminati signs are more obvious now it's because things are changing and being taken to a next level. The NWO has to be established (soon ?) and they are acting according to a plan. I think that these Illuminati don't feel the need the hide anymore and most of the time the symbols are used to be recognized in their circles not specificaly for the public. You have to keep in mind that with regard to the number of people on this planet very very few are aware of this illuminati "thing". Only people aware of the meaning of these symbols can make an interpretation. For those who don't know it's only "fashion".

Plus, I don't see the effectivness of using blatant illuminati symbols in music video-clips to expose them. It's not only using the symbols but also the gestures. Sex being the major ingredient and Gaga is doing a good job.
Therefore Gaga's artistry and imagery is not anti-illuminati but rather a kind of "publicity". She is spreading their message. She is obviously not just saying I know you. She is also saying I love you, I need you, I want you.
 
The question here is not to say if Gaga is a good person or a bad person. She's being manipulated. What I'm not so sure is if she is aware of being a puppet and to have accepted to be one or if she doesn't realize.

Yes we have to spread love and be kind with our neighbour but there are evil people in this world so we have to be perceptive and not be deceived so easily just because her name has been linked to Michael's one.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: Jade Jackson on March 12, 2010, 07:06:16 PM
I'm sorry, but I can't stand to watch Lady Gag Me for one minute.  I accidentally caught her act on the VMA's and am still having bad dreams.  If she becomes the Queen of Pop...well, that's when I will want to move to the moon.  Whether she is Illuminati or not I don't know...the photos posted are thought-provoking.  And whether she is evil or not, I cannot judge, but I am deeply disturbed by her.  Maybe that is her point.  And scary enough, her songs are catchy.  To each his or her own, and if people want to like her, then I do not judge them...but I find her disturbing and prefer not to put my attention on her...even though that is what I am doing right now.  Sorry..off to another thread now.

Oh, and one more thing, does anyone know for sure whether or not MJ liked her and wanted to work with her?  If that is the case, I really don't understand.  :?  :(
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: ROFL on March 12, 2010, 07:25:51 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
I think that if the illuminati signs are more obvious now it's because things are changing and being taken to a next level. The NWO has to be established (soon ?) and they are acting according to a plan. I think that these Illuminati don't feel the need the hide anymore and most of the time the symbols are used to be recognized in their circles not specificaly for the public. You have to keep in mind that with regard to the number of people on this planet very very few are aware of this illuminati "thing". Only people aware of the meaning of these symbols can make an interpretation. For those who don't know it's only "fashion".

Plus, I don't see the effectivness of using blatant illuminati symbols in music video-clips to expose them. It's not only using the symbols but also the gestures. Sex being the major ingredient and Gaga is doing a good job.
Therefore Gaga's artistry and imagery is not anti-illuminati but rather a kind of "publicity". She is spreading their message. She is obviously not just saying I know you. She is also saying I love you, I need you, I want you.
 
The question here is not to say if Gaga is a good person or a bad person. She's being manipulated. What I'm not so sure is if she is aware of being a puppet and to have accepted to be one or if she doesn't realize.

Yes we have to spread love and be kind with our neighbour but there are evil people in this world so we have to be perceptive and not be deceived so easily just because her name has been linked to Michael's one.


Thanks so much for posting this , there are my thoughts 1000% . People are so trying to think she is exposing them because of the Grammy's but sorry SHE is PRomoting what they want , so she is doing what they want so she is with them NOT AGAINST THEM AT ALL , promoting SEX and violence isn't a way to run against them AT ALL . PLZ understand.Ive watched on here someone  interpreting her grammy' s  performance saying that she wants to free herlself , something like that.But that's  the problem with symbolisms , you  interpret the way You see things , Ive watched other videos on youtube about the same performance and it was lot more negative and she is what she seems to be , a puppet .
About that video  , LOL i watched it one hour earlier and I was pretty shocked ( not that much actually ) everything is so obvious , so many simbolisms (with the hands etc..) It upsets me
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: jill on March 14, 2010, 06:28:21 PM
In view of this post, Lady Gaga and Beyonce were not speaking out against the Illuminati at the Grammy's as another thread indicated?  Personally I found both their performances disgustingly sexual.  In their effort to shock, they make fools of themselves.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: teine21 on March 14, 2010, 06:36:42 PM
WOW. I don't know what to think about her, I do like Beyonce though  :?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: GirlSaturday on March 14, 2010, 10:26:15 PM
MTV won't be airing the new Lady Ga Ga and Beyonce Telephone vid. I watched it on youtube and it is a hot mess. What's left to show in a vid these days? Sadly, some of their fans will see this vid and love it. Even before I started reading up on Illuminati/Mind Control, I was aware of subliminal messages in advertising.They  influence buying patterns and decisions. That sneaky undercover stuff enters the subconscious mind. The images in the Telephone vid are in no way subliminal or subconscious.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: Sarahli on March 15, 2010, 12:27:43 PM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
MTV won't be airing the new Lady Ga Ga and Beyonce Telephone vid. I watched it on youtube and it is a hot mess. What's left to show in a vid these days? Sadly, some of their fans will see this vid and love it. Even before I started reading up on Illuminati/Mind Control, I was aware of subliminal messages in advertising.They  influence buying patterns and decisions. That sneaky undercover stuff enters the subconscious mind. The images in the Telephone vid are in no way subliminal or subconscious.

Maybe it's been censored on request of shocked viewers...as I said it's a very not effective way to expose your supposed enemis. They should spread love (with all what this word can contain) it's more profitable for the world and exactly what Illuminati don't like.
Illuminati don't only work with subliminal and subconscious but also with the repetition of raw images and words. As many times as you hear or see some things you will finish or at least most people will finish to accept it, be less shocked by what should shock them...ect. They want to take us to a certain level of indecency.
That's why we have to be awaken all the time, not be manipulated and think for ourselves always. The majority is not always right.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 15, 2010, 01:57:04 PM
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423 (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423)

He made some very good posts and statements about the ''Telephone'' music video from Lady Gaga and Beyoncé.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: nynyro on March 15, 2010, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Illuminati don't only work with subliminal and subconscious but also with the repetition of raw images and words. As many times as you hear or see some things you will finish or at least most people will finish to accept it, be less shocked by what should shock them...ect. They want to take us to a certain level of indecency.
That's why we have to be awaken all the time, not be manipulated and think for ourselves always. The majority is not always right.

@the bolded

Very true.  That's why I don't understand when people say she's exposing them. I mean she performed  for the Queen of England (Illuminati bloodline) dressed head to toe in red.  What the heck do you think that means?   If she was mocking the Queen, would they have let her perform?  Of course not. Her interview with Oprah was just an attempt to make it seem like she is in control of her own image when she'sactually being controlled.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: teine21 on March 18, 2010, 03:53:51 PM
I think it's more than just coincidence with Lady Gaga, Beyonce & Rihanna. Other artists, Britney Spears etc may have some symbols in their videos but I believe that theirs is unintentional. Jay Z is supposedly a Freemason & has been using symbolism for years, he named his label after one of the most well known illuminati families, the Rockefeller family (Roc-a-fella) he does the handshake, etc the list goes on. He also became a millionaire mogul, business man seemingly overnight. He is friends with the president & has hung out at the White House a couple times. Everyone knows that most of the presidents have been Freemasons, idk about Obama but a lot of other people in the government are as well. So seems likely he'd be in with them. Anyways, he is married to Beyonce & was the one who created her alter ego (monarch programming) Sasha Fierce, he also influences her career wise. He also signed Rihanna & molded her into her bad girl side. She is on his label, so he controls her as well. & now Lady Gaga & Beyonce have worked together a couple times, probably brought together by Jay Z since they are both puppets with A LOT of followers/fans. The two of them & Rihanna are the biggest female artists out right now. They're the queens of the industry. I don't think that any of these ladies are horrible people, they are slaves to their fame. They are put on top & promised fame in exchange they are controlled & used as puppets for the illuminati. & people can argue all they want the symbolism is there, it's not to out the illuminati, if it was they'd already be targets just like MJ was when he chose to break free & speak out. Also, some people say the illuminati is a secret society why would they use singers to promote their message so blatantly. Well, the government is full of illuminati people, they control everything, they know that the music industry is a huge platform to control the masses, so they find people who are in charge in the industry & have them create "puppets" to get spread their message to the world through music videos & songs. They know that most people don't know about the symbolism, so they will think someone like Lady Gaga is just being different & they will feed into everything she does. They will sing her songs, watch all of her videos, her shows will sell out, people will be blind to the obvious symbolism if they don't know about it, making it easy to control a huge number of people through Lady Gaga, Beyonce & Rihanna. Jay Z is the biggest rapper right now he targets the male population & the hip hop community, Lady Gaga, Beyonce & Rihanna target the female population, specifically young girls & kids. Sorry if I'm all over the place in my post, I used to be a fan, but I'm learning a lot of disturbing things about all of this & it makes sense to me. Plus why do you think these women target young girls & kids? Especially the way they dress & act? Because they are easier to control, they will believe whatever they are told, & will follow everything they do. It's scary actually.  :?
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: ROFL on March 19, 2010, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: "teine21"
WOW. I don't know what to think about her, I do like Beyonce though  :?


Lol what happened from this post to your last post ?? LOL it seems like u've learned a lot in few days ?eh
I like your last post , it's a very good summary
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: teine21 on March 20, 2010, 04:40:30 AM
Quote from: "ROFL"
Quote from: "teine21"
WOW. I don't know what to think about her, I do like Beyonce though  :?


Lol what happened from this post to your last post ?? LOL it seems like u've learned a lot in few days ?eh
I like your last post , it's a very good summary

Yes I have! I wasn't watching for anything but when I read this stuff on here & saw some of the symbolism, almost immediately afterward Gaga & Beyonce's Telephone video came on tv. Then right after that Beyonce & Gaga Video Phone video came on. It was weird, they were back to back no commercial or anything. lol. Anyways, I noticed A LOT of the symbolism in it. I am convinced now, lol.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 20, 2010, 07:27:42 AM
Looks like people are waking up...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: tabloidburn on March 20, 2010, 06:55:57 PM
actually, i found it disturbing to see the two collaborating.  i thought of lady gaga as a refreshment in the industry, mocking all that style hype with her eccentric outfits and all. now it seems as if she's playing the game of fame. i'm waiting to see her break out of that. i thought she was really too smart to fall for this, but who knows what her intentions are, once she becomes more powerful - if they let her. if she just went for the whole thing and doesn't care what she got herself into, i'd be really disappointed. although i stil like her music...

as for beyoncé: i can't stand her, never really liked her cuz i think she's just a gold digger and mainly plays off her looks. for my judgement, she's not that great of a singer and all her videos ever consist of is her wiggling her stuff around. she's a beautiful but hollow shell, i don't see much creativity in what she does. and it pi$$es me off, how she's now doing mj-moves all the time.  :evil:
edit: all the above apart from being an illuminati-girlie... :mrgreen: she pretty much left her personality at the door when she got involved with jay-z...
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 20, 2010, 06:58:30 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Looks like people are waking up...

Oh people are waking up alright, thank god! Even my mum sees the Illuminati symbolism by now, she didn't want to say it but she did and I'm glad she is waking up. And I'm glad that alot of people are waking up, this is your chance to see the truth and your only chance and take it! Because you'll only get this chance once.
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: Grace on May 26, 2010, 02:06:06 PM
Is Katie Melua following the other girls too? She changed a lot lately.

This is her official video:
[youtube:1hp3eza7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHdfnLPPq8[/youtube:1hp3eza7]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHdfnLPPq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZHdfnLPPq8)
Title: Re: Lady Gaga, The Illuminati Puppet
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on June 09, 2010, 03:47:19 AM
Check out this funny parody of Lady Gaga!  :lol:

[youtube:2zwm0oih]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yCTbVJIklA[/youtube:2zwm0oih]
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