Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: StargazerMJ11 on February 01, 2010, 10:02:02 PM
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Listen to her - her lyrics!
[youtube:13rko1vs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM51qOpwcIM[/youtube:13rko1vs]
I have never liked the imagery of Gaga so I ignored her where possible - silly me!
I believe that Souza and Mo have done a great job in their mkultra/freemason research and have shown the Gaga image and what it represents brilliantly - but - I also think we have missed something big.
Why would Michael want to work with her if she were only a puppet happy to disturb the public?
why would the Jacksons keep saying they love her?
I put this song on for a reason:here they are;
We are a generation twisted by our myth
Confused and ludicrous, holding on to love
Consumed by all the pleasures in our midst
A life without the lips we've kissed
And losing all control
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
Fame is our felony
We're so in love with it
Superstars and masochists
Who don't know where to go
But the poets and the fathers of our time
Put down their weapons in their arms
And know what they must do
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice for ever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
This is what I believe she is doing . There are articles saying she hates her imagery . She is so over the top with illuminati mind control themes that we cannot do anything but notice them?
She wanted to start a resistance and she is doing so with a little thriller help.
Also lets look at the Grammy performance -
Sorry but I can't upload pics as they are bitmap and the vid was removed and it won't process my new one.
She is dragged on stage - TIAI pic of victim child in head bandages on floor
Same as Gaga in recent vid covered to nose with white mask
same as Jacksons Torture vid where they have faces with no eyes
Same as Pink floyd - brick in the wall - kids on train with no eyes
It is a circus scenario with Magician - Freemasonry/magi/crowley/ghosts etc
He says ' We Want To See The Real Gaga ' - the 'mind controlled one'
He tells us she has her own Politics?(couldn't get the word) could be policy?
He tells us she 'HAS NO SOUL'
She then arrives in a cage - where her mind is now controlled
Cut to telling us that this is 'mass mind control'
She then collapses and is taken up the steps and dumped in the vat/tube.
After all this she then sits with Elton - back where she originally started at a piano singing Speechless - Michael!
Elton has dirt all over his face - the filthy music industry he has been a part of?
He also says 'Thank God For GAGA'
She is a part of 'The Resistance' and so is Michael and others - she is deliberate in her attempts to show us what is happening - watch the Grammys again - the whole thing is showing us what is happening and what 'our 'future ' will be if this isn't stopped.
ALSO WHEN SHE SINGS WITH ELTON SHE IS WEARING HER GREEN OUTFIT - Green is what she is wearing singing Electric Kiss - back to herself?
Look beyond the obvious - I didn't and nearly missed it.
Love x
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Nice post! :D
I stated this on another post, but since this is new maybe more will see it...she played all Michael songs before she came out on stage at her concert in Detroit on January 13th. The crowd went wild and we were all dancing! She's a fan!
And, she is a great performer with a message of love...sound familiar?? She is anti-hate, anti-fame, anti-paparazzi...sound familiar?? She wears outfits that make a statement...sound familiar?? I am just saying she's not a shock to me to be considered by Michael.
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Wow - I noticed it last night for the first time that behind all of the costume, she has real talent. Now tonight it is confirmed just how truly talented she is. No wonder Michael wanted to sing with her.
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Wow - I noticed it last night for the first time that behind all of the costume, she has real talent.
Finally!
Too many people still judge first and then listen. But I'm happy you discovered it.
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Just a few questions to everyone here...
Are you all gonna assume everyone Michael took interest in is in on the hoax?
And are ya'll that think that aware that most celebrities are anti-paparazzi?
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it was no accident travis saying ow mj wanted ga ga think about it she only came around in 2009 wasnt it? Interesting time shes like female mj u mite say i only like her now cos mj said he did before i didnt really at all in her album she thanks people like madonna and prince not mj but she is clearly a fan that was on purpose too! she is planting clues shes in his catalogue he is telling her what to do trust me 8-)
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One big thing I noticed at the grammys her performance seemed she was singing aboout mjs career then they dipped her in fire! :shock:
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The video here is obviously quite old....before she transformed her image and changed her name. She is clearly talented and intelligent and in her most recent video 'Bad Romance' part of the dancing is reminiscent of MJ's Thriller. Is she paying tribute to him? Hard to say what her intention is. She recently had an audience with the queen as did Miley Cyrus, who also acknowledged MJ in a recent performance. Not sure what to make of that either.
But what is the message Lady Gaga sends to her audience of teenagers?
Here's what Vigilant Citizen had to say about Bad Romance....
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2737 (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2737)
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Hi there,
I have never liked the imagery of Gaga so I ignored her where possible - silly me!
I believe that Souza and Mo have done a great job in their mkultra/freemason research and have shown the Gaga image and what it represents brilliantly - but - I also think we have missed something big.
Why would Michael want to work with her if she were only a puppet happy to disturb the public?
why would the Jacksons keep saying they love her?
I put this song on for a reason:here they are;
We are a generation twisted by our myth
Confused and ludicrous, holding on to love
Consumed by all the pleasures in our midst
A life without the lips we've kissed
And losing all control
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
Fame is our felony
We're so in love with it
Superstars and masochists
Who don't know where to go
But the poets and the fathers of our time
Put down their weapons in their arms
And know what they must do
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice for ever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
This is what I believe she is doing . There are articles saying she hates her imagery . She is so over the top with illuminati mind control themes that we cannot do anything but notice them?
She wanted to start a resistance and she is doing so with a little thriller help.
Also lets look at the Grammy performance -
Sorry but I can't upload pics as they are bitmap and the vid was removed and it won't process my new one.
She is dragged on stage - TIAI pic of victim child in head bandages on floor
Same as Gaga in recent vid covered to nose with white mask
same as Jacksons Torture vid where they have faces with no eyes
Same as Pink floyd - brick in the wall - kids on train with no eyes
It is a circus scenario with Magician - Freemasonry/magi/crowley/ghosts etc
He says ' We Want To See The Real Gaga ' - the 'mind controlled one'
He tells us she has her own Politics?(couldn't get the word) could be policy?
He tells us she 'HAS NO SOUL'
She then arrives in a cage - where her mind is now controlled
Cut to telling us that this is 'mass mind control'
She then collapses and is taken up the steps and dumped in the vat/tube.
After all this she then sits with Elton - back where she originally started at a piano singing Speechless - Michael!
Elton has dirt all over his face - the filthy music industry he has been a part of?
He also says 'Thank God For GAGA'
She is a part of 'The Resistance' and so is Michael and others - she is deliberate in her attempts to show us what is happening - watch the Grammys again - the whole thing is showing us what is happening and what 'our 'future ' will be if this isn't stopped.
ALSO WHEN SHE SINGS WITH ELTON SHE IS WEARING HER GREEN OUTFIT - Green is what she is wearing singing Electric Kiss - back to herself?
Look beyond the obvious - I didn't and nearly missed it.
Love x
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ok i think Lady Gaga has it in her to be the next big thing, i think she's a stay-arounder,
possibly we'll look at her in 10, 20 years time and realise she became the next Madonna.
I believe her to be very talented, educated and intelligent, a woman who knows what she's doing ! Frankly we could break down every music video ever made , every song ever made and find something "dubious" about it, "symbolic" hey "mind controlling"! So what gives? Do we stick our heads and that of our children in the Bible and only listen to psalms from now on? So her songs are catchy, I belt out "papparazzi" in the shower, is she therefor "mind controling" me ?? If anything the "symbols" that "prove" gaga to be a "mind control victim" are BLATANTLY out there for all to see in her clips, you'd figure if it was indeed the case (her being MC'ed and what not) that the tips would be a little more subtle?
I'm sorry but i don't see what the commotion is all about , she makes some friggin catchy tunes, either you like her or you don't,but quit with the "OMG Illuminati everywhere!"
just chill, enjoy music !
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Wow - I noticed it last night for the first time that behind all of the costume, she has real talent.
Finally!
Too many people still judge first and then listen. But I'm happy you discovered it.
And so many people did that to Michael.. remember? He was wierd because he wore make up and spoke with a soft voice, etc....
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Wow - I noticed it last night for the first time that behind all of the costume, she has real talent.
Finally!
Too many people still judge first and then listen. But I'm happy you discovered it.
And so many people did that to Michael.. remember? He was wierd because he wore make up and spoke with a soft voice, etc....
Amen to that!
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This is brilliant stargazerMJ11. I think you have shown a lot of very important insights here. I would like to add a couple of my own observations from the Grammy's. During the GaGa expose, the guy talking (don't know his name) specifically says that we don't want her mind control pop and throws GaGa into the rejection bin. He says that we want the real GaGa. He also calls her a MONSTER several times and that she will turn all of us into MONSTERS too. This is so important, they have virtually spelled it out for us. I think GaGa is the key to showing us what is really going on in the music industry and she must be an incredibly strong person to show us in this way. I really feel that there are many connections to Michael in the Grammy's and maybe this is a joint scheme to expose the truth.
I found this which is very creepy but so important. She is spelling it out to us, I am sure she is doing this deliberately to expose the truth. She knows what she is doing as well as Michael does and IMO quite a few other artists. The whole series on Hello Kitty is mind blowing if you care to watch:-
This one relates to GaGa and Hello Kitty:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkhJi56w5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkhJi56w5U)
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Wow - I noticed it last night for the first time that behind all of the costume, she has real talent.
Finally!
Too many people still judge first and then listen. But I'm happy you discovered it.
And so many people did that to Michael.. remember? He was wierd because he wore make up and spoke with a soft voice, etc....
Amen to that!
You can't possibly compare what people say about her to what people say about Michael. What they did (and some still do) is way worse. ( Child molester anyone? Jokes on late night shows about that? Changing his skin color because he wanted to be white? just to name some false things.) That's the main reason they called him weird. She gets called weird for her outfits. Big difference imo. ( Not trying to be rude so don't take it that way)
Also if she is like anyone, she is like Madonna. I don't understand why people would say she is like Michael.
She is so much more like Madonna. Madonna was known for reinventing herself and is always praised because she knows how to market herself. She used sex to make her ''out there'' and Lady Gaga uses her outfits and imaginery. Same thing, they know how to get people interested them.
Also they both defend there work as art when questioned about it. ( look at past interviews of Madonna and you will see what I mean.They say the exact same thing) And both of them are known to be at the forefront for gay people. Which is great don't get me wrong,but still very similar. Even Madonna has said that she sees a lot of herself when she was younger in her.
Just to be clear, I'm not hating on her. She just reminds me a lot of Madonna that's all.
Also something else, as someone already pointed out, Michael wanted her to open for him at the 02. They weren't gonna sing together or write a song.
I really don't think she is in on the hoax. Why of all the people would she be in on it? He knows many people in the industry closely and has worked with some people in the last few years, but he doesn't tell them yet includes someone he doesn't even know? Doesn't make sense to me...
Also the things that have been pointed out to me just show that she is somewhat of a fan of his. That's all really, and pretty much every artist out there has proclaimed to be a fan of his at some point in their career so that is nothing new either.
Well this post turned out much longer than intented :lol: I guess I had to get this of my chest finally ;)
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This is brilliant stargazerMJ11. I think you have shown a lot of very important insights here. I would like to add a couple of my own observations from the Grammy's. During the GaGa expose, the guy talking (don't know his name) specifically says that we don't want her mind control pop and throws GaGa into the rejection bin. He says that we want the real GaGa. He also calls her a MONSTER several times and that she will turn all of us into MONSTERS too. This is so important, they have virtually spelled it out for us. I think GaGa is the key to showing us what is really going on in the music industry and she must be an incredibly strong person to show us in this way. I really feel that there are many connections to Michael in the Grammy's and maybe this is a joint scheme to expose the truth.
I found this which is very creepy but so important. She is spelling it out to us, I am sure she is doing this deliberately to expose the truth. She knows what she is doing as well as Michael does and IMO quite a few other artists. The whole series on Hello Kitty is mind blowing if you care to watch:-
This one relates to GaGa and Hello Kitty:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkhJi56w5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LkhJi56w5U)
The higlighted part about the monster thing, I think that was about her calling her fans her little ''monsters'' also she has a song called monster appariantly...
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Why Michael chooses GAGA: read article about Michael below from Bloomberg Business Week online. It is dated June 25, 2009 at 10:24PM EST
Financial Assets Included Sony/ATV Catalog
A genius of a songwriter and performer, Jackson was not so in tune with his personal finances. At one point the star owed more than $270 million to Bank of America (BAC). In 2005 the bank sold that debt at a discount to the private equity firm Fortress Investment Group (FIG). Jackson, who reportedly spent as much as $30 million a year during the good times on clothes, travel, and toys for his ranch, successfully fought an attempt to auction many of his personal possessions earlier this year. Over the years those suing Jackson for past-due bills included his former publicist, video director, attorney, and financial advisers.
Not much is known about Jackson's estate planning or will. He leaves behind three children and his well-known brothers, sisters, mother, and father. The star had one asset that will likely be the target of much maneuvering by creditors and heirs in the coming months and years—his 50% interest in the Sony/ATV music catalog. Shortly after his string of early 1980s hits that included Thriller, one of the best-selling albums of all time, Jackson was shrewdly advised to buy the Beatles catalog for $47 million. Ten years later, Jackson merged his music company with Sony Corp.'s (SNE) music publishing arm in a deal reportedly worth $90 million to him.
Today, that company owns the publishing rights to thousands of hit songs by everyone from Neil Diamond to Lady Gaga. Music publishers collect royalties from radio stations, movie studios, and record labels every time a song is played or album sold. Jackson's half interest has been estimated to be worth as much as $500 million. Jackson's own hits are owned by a separate company, also now part of his estate.
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Xirisjex, I have heard this about her calling her very young fans her little monsters too and I feel it has a very dark connotation and I think she is trying to show how the Illuminati want to change and control us and our children.
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@xirisjex The worst allegations and jibes against MJ were later on in his career. Lady GaGa is still relatively young and starting out on her career.
At the beginning with MJ there were whisperings and jokes about his fashion style, his make up, his voice, his love of animals (bubbles), etc... so yes i can compare the two. The jokes and judgements against Lady GaGa are similar to how it started out with MJ... and then of course, MJ became very big, very famous, very rich and very powerful and then the claws really came out.
Since when is it ok to judge someone on their appearance and dress style as they do Lady GaGa? She is actually very clever with what she does. Everyone is talking about her, right?? :)
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Hi there,
I have never liked the imagery of Gaga so I ignored her where possible - silly me!
I believe that Souza and Mo have done a great job in their mkultra/freemason research and have shown the Gaga image and what it represents brilliantly - but - I also think we have missed something big.
Why would Michael want to work with her if she were only a puppet happy to disturb the public?
why would the Jacksons keep saying they love her?
I put this song on for a reason:here they are;
We are a generation twisted by our myth
Confused and ludicrous, holding on to love
Consumed by all the pleasures in our midst
A life without the lips we've kissed
And losing all control
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
Fame is our felony
We're so in love with it
Superstars and masochists
Who don't know where to go
But the poets and the fathers of our time
Put down their weapons in their arms
And know what they must do
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice for ever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
This is what I believe she is doing . There are articles saying she hates her imagery . She is so over the top with illuminati mind control themes that we cannot do anything but notice them?
She wanted to start a resistance and she is doing so with a little thriller help.
Also lets look at the Grammy performance -
Sorry but I can't upload pics as they are bitmap and the vid was removed and it won't process my new one.
She is dragged on stage - TIAI pic of victim child in head bandages on floor
Same as Gaga in recent vid covered to nose with white mask
same as Jacksons Torture vid where they have faces with no eyes
Same as Pink floyd - brick in the wall - kids on train with no eyes
It is a circus scenario with Magician - Freemasonry/magi/crowley/ghosts etc
He says ' We Want To See The Real Gaga ' - the 'mind controlled one'
He tells us she has her own Politics?(couldn't get the word) could be policy?
He tells us she 'HAS NO SOUL'
She then arrives in a cage - where her mind is now controlled
Cut to telling us that this is 'mass mind control'
She then collapses and is taken up the steps and dumped in the vat/tube.
After all this she then sits with Elton - back where she originally started at a piano singing Speechless - Michael!
Elton has dirt all over his face - the filthy music industry he has been a part of?
He also says 'Thank God For GAGA'
She is a part of 'The Resistance' and so is Michael and others - she is deliberate in her attempts to show us what is happening - watch the Grammys again - the whole thing is showing us what is happening and what 'our 'future ' will be if this isn't stopped.
ALSO WHEN SHE SINGS WITH ELTON SHE IS WEARING HER GREEN OUTFIT - Green is what she is wearing singing Electric Kiss - back to herself?
Look beyond the obvious - I didn't and nearly missed it.
Love x
:!: :!: :!: Bravo on your excellent and insightful post!!!! I agree with you completely, Michael did NOT WANT to work with GaGa, Michael IS WORKING WITH GAGA...she is pure, raw, true talent and Michael knew that. She is making fun / exposing all the symbols in her work to cast light on all of the evil underground demons...please think about it, would someone in a secret society be so bold and expose for all the world to see, I highly doubt it!
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I hope the day comes when she sheds all this iluminati garb and craziness and shows her true self and her talent and just let this side of herself shine without all the gimmicks.
It'll probably be the same time MJ returns. :)
Maybe that's the whole point to her image. She is a symbol and reflection of what the world has turned into. What the music has turned into. Maybe this is how MJ FELT when he was at the height of his fame and his popularity but we saw something else. Remember on the Oprah interview in '93 he said he was terribly sad during those years. I believe it. I'm sure there's more to Gaga than meets the eye. Her Grammy performance was trying to send a more obvious message this time.
We are SO screwed up right now. :(
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She looked better before she got famous.
Normal & natural talent but now she's just...what's the word? :roll:
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She looked better before she got famous.
Normal & natural talent but now she's just...what's the word? :roll:
I totally agree, it's so sad that she has had to go to this extreme to show us the truth.
@dmovie27 :- I hope the day comes when she sheds all this iluminati garb and craziness and shows her true self and her talent and just let this side of herself shine without all the gimmicks.
It'll probably be the same time MJ returns. :)
I'm positive you are right on both counts. :D
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She is really a sweet girl. I knew she was sending messages as soon as I saw Paparazzi.
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Lady Gaga is really talented and has good music, I can remember on her The Fame Monster album there are two Gaga's one with the blonde hair (The mind controlled Gaga) and one with dark hair and crying (The original Gaga - wants out of the mind control). I think she is misunderstood and I really think Michael wanted to sing with her.
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Hi there,
I have never liked the imagery of Gaga so I ignored her where possible - silly me!
I believe that Souza and Mo have done a great job in their mkultra/freemason research and have shown the Gaga image and what it represents brilliantly - but - I also think we have missed something big.
Why would Michael want to work with her if she were only a puppet happy to disturb the public?
why would the Jacksons keep saying they love her?
I put this song on for a reason:here they are;
We are a generation twisted by our myth
Confused and ludicrous, holding on to love
Consumed by all the pleasures in our midst
A life without the lips we've kissed
And losing all control
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
Fame is our felony
We're so in love with it
Superstars and masochists
Who don't know where to go
But the poets and the fathers of our time
Put down their weapons in their arms
And know what they must do
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice for ever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
This is what I believe she is doing . There are articles saying she hates her imagery . She is so over the top with illuminati mind control themes that we cannot do anything but notice them?
She wanted to start a resistance and she is doing so with a little thriller help.
Also lets look at the Grammy performance -
Sorry but I can't upload pics as they are bitmap and the vid was removed and it won't process my new one.
She is dragged on stage - TIAI pic of victim child in head bandages on floor
Same as Gaga in recent vid covered to nose with white mask
same as Jacksons Torture vid where they have faces with no eyes
Same as Pink floyd - brick in the wall - kids on train with no eyes
It is a circus scenario with Magician - Freemasonry/magi/crowley/ghosts etc
He says ' We Want To See The Real Gaga ' - the 'mind controlled one'
He tells us she has her own Politics?(couldn't get the word) could be policy?
He tells us she 'HAS NO SOUL'
She then arrives in a cage - where her mind is now controlled
Cut to telling us that this is 'mass mind control'
She then collapses and is taken up the steps and dumped in the vat/tube.
After all this she then sits with Elton - back where she originally started at a piano singing Speechless - Michael!
Elton has dirt all over his face - the filthy music industry he has been a part of?
He also says 'Thank God For GAGA'
She is a part of 'The Resistance' and so is Michael and others - she is deliberate in her attempts to show us what is happening - watch the Grammys again - the whole thing is showing us what is happening and what 'our 'future ' will be if this isn't stopped.
ALSO WHEN SHE SINGS WITH ELTON SHE IS WEARING HER GREEN OUTFIT - Green is what she is wearing singing Electric Kiss - back to herself?
Look beyond the obvious - I didn't and nearly missed it.
Love x
:!: :!: :!: Bravo on your excellent and insightful post!!!! I agree with you completely, Michael did NOT WANT to work with GaGa, Michael IS WORKING WITH GAGA...she is pure, raw, true talent and Michael knew that. She is making fun / exposing all the symbols in her work to cast light on all of the evil underground demons...please think about it, would someone in a secret society be so bold and expose for all the world to see, I highly doubt it!
One thing doesn't add up to this though. By saying she is exposing symbols and such we are going by the illumnati right? One of the things that is claimed about the illumnati is that they control everything, including the music industry. If that is true there is no way she would be able to be succesfull without being ''brain washed'' or at least following their orders. So how can she expose them through her songs and on stage then? They would not allow her to do that, if they really excist. If anything they would use her to gain control on the masses, I guess...
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Hi there,
I have never liked the imagery of Gaga so I ignored her where possible - silly me!
I believe that Souza and Mo have done a great job in their mkultra/freemason research and have shown the Gaga image and what it represents brilliantly - but - I also think we have missed something big.
Why would Michael want to work with her if she were only a puppet happy to disturb the public?
why would the Jacksons keep saying they love her?
I put this song on for a reason:here they are;
We are a generation twisted by our myth
Confused and ludicrous, holding on to love
Consumed by all the pleasures in our midst
A life without the lips we've kissed
And losing all control
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
Fame is our felony
We're so in love with it
Superstars and masochists
Who don't know where to go
But the poets and the fathers of our time
Put down their weapons in their arms
And know what they must do
We're gonna start a resistance
So we want independence
We're gonna give the world some of this
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice forever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
I'm gonna change the world with my lips
One voice for ever
We'll live together
Peace, love, solitude and happiness
Electric kiss
This is what I believe she is doing . There are articles saying she hates her imagery . She is so over the top with illuminati mind control themes that we cannot do anything but notice them?
She wanted to start a resistance and she is doing so with a little thriller help.
Also lets look at the Grammy performance -
Sorry but I can't upload pics as they are bitmap and the vid was removed and it won't process my new one.
She is dragged on stage - TIAI pic of victim child in head bandages on floor
Same as Gaga in recent vid covered to nose with white mask
same as Jacksons Torture vid where they have faces with no eyes
Same as Pink floyd - brick in the wall - kids on train with no eyes
It is a circus scenario with Magician - Freemasonry/magi/crowley/ghosts etc
He says ' We Want To See The Real Gaga ' - the 'mind controlled one'
He tells us she has her own Politics?(couldn't get the word) could be policy?
He tells us she 'HAS NO SOUL'
She then arrives in a cage - where her mind is now controlled
Cut to telling us that this is 'mass mind control'
She then collapses and is taken up the steps and dumped in the vat/tube.
After all this she then sits with Elton - back where she originally started at a piano singing Speechless - Michael!
Elton has dirt all over his face - the filthy music industry he has been a part of?
He also says 'Thank God For GAGA'
She is a part of 'The Resistance' and so is Michael and others - she is deliberate in her attempts to show us what is happening - watch the Grammys again - the whole thing is showing us what is happening and what 'our 'future ' will be if this isn't stopped.
ALSO WHEN SHE SINGS WITH ELTON SHE IS WEARING HER GREEN OUTFIT - Green is what she is wearing singing Electric Kiss - back to herself?
Look beyond the obvious - I didn't and nearly missed it.
Love x
:!: :!: :!: Bravo on your excellent and insightful post!!!! I agree with you completely, Michael did NOT WANT to work with GaGa, Michael IS WORKING WITH GAGA...she is pure, raw, true talent and Michael knew that. She is making fun / exposing all the symbols in her work to cast light on all of the evil underground demons...please think about it, would someone in a secret society be so bold and expose for all the world to see, I highly doubt it!
One thing doesn't add up to this though. By saying she is exposing symbols and such we are going by the illumnati right? One of the things that is claimed about the illumnati is that they control everything, including the music industry. If that is true there is no way she would be able to be succesfull without being ''brain washed'' or at least following their orders. So how can she expose them through her songs and on stage then? They would not allow her to do that, if they really excist. If anything they would use her to gain control on the masses, I guess...
I totally understand what you are saying here but I have to add that Black or White Panther video was shown for mass public viewing and I'm sure the Illuminati did not approve of that but it was still shown and only after was it banned. I'm sure Michael has friends in high places and can achieve anything. :D
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Maybe you guys are right, maybe she is trying to expose all of that, I just don't think Michael is behind it though. Other artists have spoken out about it as well so maybe she came up with all of this on her own. If regular people like us could see it so could she perhaps.
One thing that I don't get is why would she then work with someone like Beyonce who is considered to be a puppet for them? Isn't she just going along with them then? If you look at that video ''videophone'' she's not making any statements there, just going along with it all. Wouldn't that be against what she is trying to do according to all of this?
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Maybe you guys are right, maybe she is trying to expose all of that, I just don't think Michael is behind it though. Other artists have spoken out about it as well so maybe she came up with all of this on her own. If regular people like us could see it so could she perhaps.
One thing that I don't get is why would she then work with someone like Beyonce who is considered to be a puppet for them? Isn't she just going along with them then? If you look at that video ''videophone'' she's not making any statements there, just going along with it all. Wouldn't that be against what she is trying to do according to all of this?
Maybe they are making it look as though they are playing along. I trust they know what they are doing, they know sooo much more than we do.
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I think that Micheal was able to look deeper than the superficial and see the heart of this young woman. She is a humanitarian with a surprising upbringing. Together, they could have turned humanity upside down. Her life is quite extraordinary. Michael obviously saw her potential.
She donated millions to Haiti.
[youtube:l6cex6v3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX71atL_3w0[/youtube:l6cex6v3]
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I hope you don't mind Souza but I took this from your other thread about 2009 VMA's because what GaGa says about her performance there is very appropriate for this thread:-
“Do you think it will be one of those defining moments people will remember at the VMAs?”
“I know it will. I sort of have this philosophy about things: there’s never a reason to do something unless it’s going to be memorable, unless it’s going to change things, unless it’s going to inspire a movement. With the song and with the performance, I hope to say something very grave about fame and the price of it.”
“Something grave? What?”
“You’ll have to see.”
“What are you going to wear? “
“I would say that the fashion for the performance is a representation of the most stoic and memorable martyrs of fame in history. It’s intended to be an iconic image that represents people. I think after watching the performance and maybe studying it after you watch it on YouTube, you’ll see the references and the symbols come through.”
I think she knows exactly what she is doing and I have a newfound respect for GaGa.
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I have to agree I think that Lady Gaga is a huge talent and I like to learn more about her. She makes it much more interesting what is going on in the media but is very critical at the same time. This is amazing and I like this kind of people.
Thaks everybody for this post.
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I agree shout, It's so great to see a possible positive outcome to all this dark truth. I feel much happier now that there is some visible light and love at the end of this deep and dark tunnel. :D
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I have been looking into this some more and have found this:-
http://www.popcrunch.com/lady-gaga-hyst ... kson-died/ (http://www.popcrunch.com/lady-gaga-hysterical-after-learning-michael-jackson-died/)
Rising pop star Lady Gaga was “hysterical” with grief upon learning legendary hitmaker Michael Jackson had died, according to reports out of the UK.
As we all know by now, the King of Pop died on Thursday at the age of 50.
The “Love Game” singer reportedly cancelled all interviews before her debut at Britain’s Glastonbury Music Festival after hearing the news and refused to leave her tour bus.
“Gaga was hysterical with grief. She could not be consoled and spent the day on the phone to her producer RedOne in America,” says a source in the star’s camp.
“They penned hits ‘Poker Face’ and ‘Just Dance’ together. He had been working with Michael on new material recently and was beside himself.”
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I just want to say that gaga is an illuminati slave look at her videos and all the occult signs, Michael and the illuminati don't mix they want him gone and he is sick of them trying to ruin him
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Not a Gaga fan but love Elton.....I noticed he changed the last line to his song in this performance......not sure why??
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Love Elton. Who doesn't! He is a legend himself.
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First: I, too, "see" all the correlations between Lady Gaga, her performances, song titles, outfits, & Michael. Close your eyes and listen...she can sing.
Second: GAGA backwards.... "A GAG"
......things that make you go "hmmmm"..... 8-)
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I went to Gaga show also and found that one scene was graveyard...very much like Thriller graveyard from the new video. She was wearing Madonnaesque outfit at one time with the pointed bra and blonde hair. And yeah, the music was ALL MJ before the show... the audience loved it... dancing and singing all the songs! I think they were working on a song together but never finished it... Dancing on the Moon. So now this is all coming together... I can understand her more and why she is doing this stuff. Especially the Grammy show... was very clever. I am still figuring out her red carpet outfit w. all the orbits of lights and holding that star...is this standing for L.O.V.E...Law of Vibrational Energy? The light of our soul? I don't know here.
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You have to understand that it's not necessarily the illuminati that she's targeting. Who said that they are the ones controlling the music industry? What if they are the ones trying to stop it? "Illuminati" does mean "to bring light". There's so much about the elite that we don't know, you're just going on people's formed opinions. Who I think she is targeting is the foul controllers of the music industry itself, who may be using mind control techiniques such as these and manipulation of sex and degenrative behavior to sell records. I don't think these people have anything to do with the illuminati. They're just gangster low lifes who are greedy and are losing their grip on the music industry.
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First: I, too, "see" all the correlations between Lady Gaga, her performances, song titles, outfits, & Michael. Close your eyes and listen...she can sing.
Second: GAGA backwards.... "A GAG"
......things that make you go "hmmmm"..... 8-)
:lol: :lol:
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JANET PETER PAN AMAS GA GA TINKERBELL GRAMMYS WOT MORE DO YOU WANT PROOF WISE!!!
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I went to Gaga show also and found that one scene was graveyard...very much like Thriller graveyard from the new video. She was wearing Madonnaesque outfit at one time with the pointed bra and blonde hair. And yeah, the music was ALL MJ before the show... the audience loved it... dancing and singing all the songs! I think they were working on a song together but never finished it... Dancing on the Moon. So now this is all coming together... I can understand her more and why she is doing this stuff. Especially the Grammy show... was very clever. I am still figuring out her red carpet outfit w. all the orbits of lights and holding that star...is this standing for L.O.V.E...Law of Vibrational Energy? The light of our soul? I don't know here.
Am I missing something here? I have two teenagers and recently started looking at the music videos that are out there. While an adult might look at her videos and see symbols and hidden meanings, adolescents see SEX, with no love attached. Recently she was asked what she looks for in a man. She responded, "Someone with a big......" Does anyone really think that Michael would encourage Paris to sit down and watch a GaGa video with him?
I'm not here to condemn the woman. I don't know her. I'm only looking at her work and words through the perspective of a mother. I just read a commentary this morning from Greg Palast bemoaning the loss of innocence as his daughter is glued to Youtube videos of Lady GaGas crotch. If she has a broader more uplifting message, it appears to be lost on the general audience.
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I went to Gaga show also and found that one scene was graveyard...very much like Thriller graveyard from the new video. She was wearing Madonnaesque outfit at one time with the pointed bra and blonde hair. And yeah, the music was ALL MJ before the show... the audience loved it... dancing and singing all the songs! I think they were working on a song together but never finished it... Dancing on the Moon. So now this is all coming together... I can understand her more and why she is doing this stuff. Especially the Grammy show... was very clever. I am still figuring out her red carpet outfit w. all the orbits of lights and holding that star...is this standing for L.O.V.E...Law of Vibrational Energy? The light of our soul? I don't know here.
Am I missing something here? I have two teenagers and recently started looking at the music videos that are out there. While an adult might look at her videos and see symbols and hidden meanings, adolescents see SEX, with no love attached. Recently she was asked what she looks for in a man. She responded, "Someone with a big......" Does anyone really think that Michael would encourage Paris to sit down and watch a GaGa video with him?
I'm not here to condemn the woman. I don't know her. I'm only looking at her work and words through the perspective of a mother. I just read a commentary this morning from Greg Palast bemoaning the loss of innocence as his daughter is glued to Youtube videos of Lady GaGas crotch. If she has a broader more uplifting message, it appears to be lost on the general audience.
Well I kind of have to agree with this though. I saw close ups of what she was wearing on stage at the grammys and you could she her crotch was barely covered. It's a shame because if she wants to focus on the meaning behind her performances why send a message like that out there at the same time? I feel the same way about Beyonce. She talks about being a strong woman, yet during the Ema's she was performing in an outfit that was more like underwear than an actual outfit. It's like why degrate yourself like that? Isn't your talent enough?
Well I guess I'm a little off topic now.
I agree though that a lot of kids out there don't see any symbols and probably don't get the message. I think that's partially because she sends mixed signals in her videos and performances.
I still don't think there is a special connection between her and Michael. I mean look at beyonce she pretty much copied the DRill from MIchael in her grammy performance, does that mean she knows something too?
They both probably are just fans..
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It is well known that the film industry, record companies and the media are controlled by the illuminati, music that teens often listen often leads to apathy, violence and drugs, also used to control mind, the music quality is often rejected by major labels. I do not think that Lady Gaga is an example to follow, maybe my opinion is that I do not like I've never liked all that symbolism she uses, I feel a rejection of that kind of thing, and what I believe is that in this world that there is a crisis of values, what is good, people look as bad, and what is bad people look as good, "the world upside down." I do not know if Michael wanted to work or working with her, I would know that :geek:
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That's what I said on another thread about Lady Gaga:
"MJ holds rights on Lady Gaga's songs in his catalogue.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnf ... 228739.htm (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2009/db20090625_228739.htm)
Why not imagine he influences her work (which she was said to have admitted already).
Why not imagine he actively orchestrates her success?
Why not imagine he has many spokespersons now?
Lady Gaga may be only one.
There are tons of money behind her.
She is the most spoiled star since a long time.
She is being pushed up.
Just a lady from New York night clubs on her way up? No.
She is THE star these days and for quite a while still, freaking out everybody.
She is the only one who may cross any borders of taste, lie, truth, art and A.I.R. (art is resistance). She is said to be so crazy in public that you would expect everything from her. She's being accepted that way. She has found agreement and acceptance from the public to be that way. Thus she has achieved more freedom on earth than anybody else. She may do or not do whatever she likes.
She is also said to be a very nice, kind person. This gives a lot of space for actions and for speculations. Watch her. She will speak the truth more than anybody else because she is so much disguised that nobody will take as personal insult what she's about to say.
She is the perfect court jester to mirror our crazyness back to us.
She will be THE star for quite a while - and then disappear miraculously or dramatically.
Watch for it."
I am adding this:
I consider her a mirror of the crazyness that has settled in as establishment in the "civilized" world. As such she giving an antipole to the influencial powerful individuals and organizations.
She is not puppet of nwo or what some fear. The contrary: she is duping and embarrassing the "upside town".
Lady Gaga is brilliant. She is ridiculing them by starring being one of them. It's a double layer storybook.
Who looks at her only once from the outside feels disgusted by her frank barefacedness of doing what she does.
In fact, she is crossing borders and thus uniting.
Her videos are masterpieces. There is a master behind these movies. If you watch them closely, you'll find at least as many clues of what she's really talking about as you found in TII.
The brand "Lady Gaga" is extremely well being brought to market.
There are people behind her that want to tell something.
If this were not the case, they would not put such tremendous effort in the videos and pay attention to so many details and story layers in them.
There are brains at work.
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Lady Ga Ga is evil , she sold her soul to the devil
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That's what I said on another thread about Lady Gaga:
"MJ holds rights on Lady Gaga's songs in his catalogue.
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnf ... 228739.htm (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2009/db20090625_228739.htm)
Why not imagine he influences her work (which she was said to have admitted already).
Why not imagine he actively orchestrates her success?
Why not imagine he has many spokespersons now?
Lady Gaga may be only one.
There are tons of money behind her.
She is the most spoiled star since a long time.
She is being pushed up.
Just a lady from New York night clubs on her way up? No.
She is THE star these days and for quite a while still, freaking out everybody.
She is the only one who may cross any borders of taste, lie, truth, art and A.I.R. (art is resistance). She is said to be so crazy in public that you would expect everything from her. She's being accepted that way. She has found agreement and acceptance from the public to be that way. Thus she has achieved more freedom on earth than anybody else. She may do or not do whatever she likes.
She is also said to be a very nice, kind person. This gives a lot of space for actions and for speculations. Watch her. She will speak the truth more than anybody else because she is so much disguised that nobody will take as personal insult what she's about to say.
She is the perfect court jester to mirror our crazyness back to us.
She will be THE star for quite a while - and then disappear miraculously or dramatically.
Watch for it."
I am adding this:
I consider her a mirror of the crazyness that has settled in as establishment in the "civilized" world. As such she giving an antipole to the influencial powerful individuals and organizations.
She is not puppet of nwo or what some fear. The contrary: she is duping and embarrassing the "upside town".
Lady Gaga is brilliant. She is ridiculing them by starring being one of them. It's a double layer storybook.
Who looks at her only once from the outside feels disgusted by her frank barefacedness of doing what she does.
In fact, she is crossing borders and thus uniting.
Her videos are masterpieces. There is a master behind these movies. If you watch them closely, you'll find at least as many clues of what she's really talking about as you found in TII.
The brand "Lady Gaga" is extremely well being brought to market.
There are people behind her that want to tell something.
If this were not the case, they would not put such tremendous effort in the videos and pay attention to so many details and story layers in them.
There are brains at work.
Great words grace, this is spot on, you explain so well exactly, what GaGa is all about IMO :D
This is a challenging concept for some to believe but if our insights are accurate, which I truly believe they are, then the outcome of this looks far brighter for everyone. If we can see that they are taking this on, head on, then everything will be ok. ;)
Looking outside the box is essential for this one...
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I guess I feel the need to play 'devil's' advocate here, as I truly have not made up my mind about her. If you frequent the website 'Vigilant Citizen,' it would appear that many of today's artist are blatant in their exposure of illuminati symbolism. Is that because they are 'shedding light on the dark side and exposing it,' or because they are part of the dark side and feel bold enough to throw it in our faces, or rather the faces of our children. Is it GOOD that Rhianna devotes an entire song to demonic possession, or is she merely glamorizing it.
I've been curious about GaGa's meteoric rise to the top, including an audience with the Queen! She obviously has some powerful people behind her. Just not sure that it's MJ.
Here are the words to Bad Romance, viewed by about 100M on Youtube.
I want your horror
I want your design
‘Cause you’re a criminal
As long as your mine
I want your love
(Love-love-love I want your love-uuhh)
I want your psycho
Your vertigo stick
Want you in my rear window
Baby you’re sick
I want your love
Love-love-love
I want your love
(Love-love-love I want your love)
And here's the link to the analysis: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2737 (http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2737)
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I will not love Gaga's artistry just because her name has been quoted next to Michael's one. We have to keep our head on our shoulders and see things from a rational point of view. Almost all singers have been a fan of Michael in their lives or at least have loved or still love his music or one of his songs. You can ask almost anyone they will all tell you they love Michael, his songs, his career... (now more than ever).
When you look at Gaga video clip "Bad Romance" were is the link with Michael ? The brainwashing process they attempted on him ? Maybe. But the difference is that Lady Gaga is well aware of what is going on in the Music Industry (which was not the case of Michael at his early stages) and she is well aware of the price she has to pay to obtain fame and success and it really seems considering her video clip that she accepted to pay the price. Some people would sell their soul to the devil to satisfy their passions.
Maybe and I say maybe that Michael wanted to point out Gaga for that specific reason, the Music Industry and the price you have to pay to obtain fame. If you don't follow their rules, their codes and their views either, if you're not a danger, they put you aside or at least leave you make your small career, or, if you are dangerous and become a threat, they do everything and anything to bring you down. This is just my point of view. No offense to those who love Gaga.
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You know, I think it's very possible, obviously, that Madame Gaga is indeed an Illuminati product, but at the same time, I noticed something- she never wins ANY awards! If she were for them, wouldn't they be handing them out to her? And she does seem like she's making fun of them- or doing that and showing us at the same time. It would make sense, I think, especially as someone pointed out that she's in MJ's catalogue.. I can just see him using her as the messenger or whatever..
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@Sarahli:- I'm not keen on Gaga's music either, but I feel that she is mocking them by being so shockingly 'in your face' with her imagery' and music that she is showing us something. It has been said earlier that she doesn't like her own imagery either, so there must be some reason for her doing this.I think there is a strong link between her and Michael, as well as Travis Payne being her choreographer.
It's like she is pushing the boundaries so far because people need to be shocked into seeing what is really going on behind the music industry.
I'm sure that the Illuminati would not approve of her being so blatantly expressive. They tend to use blatant symbolism rather than what Gaga is displaying. I may be wrong but I am sure this is normally the case.
Here is the grammy performance again, listen to the guys words, I'm sure we are being told something important and he asks for the real Gaga (not the mind control pop culture Lady Gaga), who has been put in the incinerator and then out comes real Gaga with Elton John. IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOvfUTHfxY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOvfUTHfxY)
There is such a fine line between exposing them and being their puppet. I really do think that she is the former. The Grammy's reveals this for me.
@pinktopaz:- Good point about her not getting awards, are these not usually given to artists who do as they are told. (puppets).
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You know, I think it's very possible, obviously, that Madame Gaga is indeed an Illuminati product, but at the same time, I noticed something- she never wins ANY awards! If she were for them, wouldn't they be handing them out to her? And she does seem like she's making fun of them- or doing that and showing us at the same time. It would make sense, I think, especially as someone pointed out that she's in MJ's catalogue.. I can just see him using her as the messenger or whatever..
She did win awards. She's won 2 grammy's, for best electronic album and anther one which I can't remember at the moment.
She also won a VMA award.
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To Believe 777
I really don't know what to think about Gaga. She really seems to be a puppet for me. Maybe there are 2 Gagas but when you say that she doesn't like her imagery but still keep on going on with this same imagery there is something that consolidate me in the conclusion that she knows she's being manipulated and that she accepts it. She knows the game and plays it.
Beyonce received many Grammys that night because she's in the game together with her husband Jay-Z. They are at a "higher level" that's why she was awarded that much. Maybe Gaga's time has not yet come she has to prove something. There's a kind of ritual to go through first.
Do you really think that the way Gaga is expressing herself via her videos, her artistry, will make people aware of what is going on in the music industry ? Many people who follow her are teenagers they don't know what's behind, they just see things at face value and what she shows to them is not leading to reflexion, to awareness. Fans (especially young fans) take these people as their models. This is dangerous. I think that if you really want to expose some truths, to expose an enemy you don't use the exact codes and methods this enemy is using. If Gaga aim is really to expose them (which I still doubt ) this will only have an impact on people who already know about these things, who have sufficient knowledge to decode things, not many people in reality.
Gaga is an example of the music industry manipulation process to me. She's like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. Just make a comparison between their beginnings and what they have become today. To me it speaks volumes.
This is just what I think I can be completely wrong and don't say this is the truth it's just what I feel. I think I'll keep an eye on Gaga to see how things evolve. If I realize that I'm wrong about her I'll admit it. I only search for the truth.
God bless you
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To Believe 777
I really don't know what to think about Gaga. She really seems to be a puppet for me. Maybe there are 2 Gagas but when you say that she doesn't like her imagery but still keep on going on with this same imagery there is something that consolidate me in the conclusion that she knows she's being manipulated and that she accepts it. She knows the game and plays it.
Beyonce received many Grammys that night because she's in the game together with her husband Jay-Z. They are at a "higher level" that's why she was awarded that much. Maybe Gaga's time has not yet come she has to prove something. There's a kind of ritual to go through first.
Do you really think that the way Gaga is expressing herself via her videos, her artistry, will make people aware of what is going on in the music industry ? Many people who follow her are teenagers they don't know what's behind, they just see things at face value and what she shows to them is not leading to reflexion, to awareness. Fans (especially young fans) take these people as their models. This is dangerous. I think that if you really want to expose some truths, to expose an enemy you don't use the exact codes and methods this enemy is using. If Gaga aim is really to expose them (which I still doubt ) this will only have an impact on people who already know about these things, who have sufficient knowledge to decode things, not many people in reality.
Gaga is an example of the music industry manipulation process to me. She's like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. Just make a comparison between their beginnings and what they have become today. To me it speaks volumes.
This is just what I think I can be completely wrong and don't say this is the truth it's just what I feel. I think I'll keep an eye on Gaga to see how things evolve. If I realize that I'm wrong about her I'll admit it. I only search for the truth.
God bless you
Thank you sarahli, I also only search for the truth and I also may be wrong. I understand what you are saying and like I said, there is such a fine line between the two scenarios. Maybe her imagery is for those who are becoming more aware to take notice. It's the Grammy performance that speaks volumes to me. I'm not sure how else the extreme sinister aspect of the music industry could be exposed in a way that people can 1. see and 2. believe. Talking about it would not be sufficient enough or explosive enough to open peoples eyes. Again this is just my personal feelings on this.
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You know, I think it's very possible, obviously, that Madame Gaga is indeed an Illuminati product, but at the same time, I noticed something- she never wins ANY awards! If she were for them, wouldn't they be handing them out to her? And she does seem like she's making fun of them- or doing that and showing us at the same time. It would make sense, I think, especially as someone pointed out that she's in MJ's catalogue.. I can just see him using her as the messenger or whatever..
She did win awards. She's won 2 grammy's, for best electronic album and anther one which I can't remember at the moment.
She also won a VMA award.
But wouldn't they give her the biggest, best ones? I've heard that her fans think she got cheated..
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I am very pleased to see this post. Lady Gaga had a very clear message in her performance, but so did Beyonce. Maybe less obvious, but Pink and Bon Jovi were pulling it off as well. Good to see people are starting to see now what is happening in the world and in the music industry.
In my opinion the Grammys was one big statement by the artists, and it was a fantastic show.
And yes, Lady Gaga is very talented, she has a fantastic voice.
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@Sarahli:- I'm not keen on Gaga's music either, but I feel that she is mocking them by being so shockingly 'in your face' with her imagery' and music that she is showing us something. It has been said earlier that she doesn't like her own imagery either, so there must be some reason for her doing this.I think there is a strong link between her and Michael, as well as Travis Payne being her choreographer.
It's like she is pushing the boundaries so far because people need to be shocked into seeing what is really going on behind the music industry.
I'm sure that the Illuminati would not approve of her being so blatantly expressive. They tend to use blatant symbolism rather than what Gaga is displaying. I may be wrong but I am sure this is normally the case.
Here is the grammy performance again, listen to the guys words, I'm sure we are being told something important and he asks for the real Gaga (not the mind control pop culture Lady Gaga), who has been put in the incinerator and then out comes real Gaga with Elton John. IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOvfUTHfxY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlOvfUTHfxY)
There is such a fine line between exposing them and being their puppet. I really do think that she is the former. The Grammy's reveals this for me.
@pinktopaz:- Good point about her not getting awards, are these not usually given to artists who do as they are told. (puppets).
Yes, that is why (IMO) Taylor Swift won the big one, she'd on message. She's a sweet girl, but I think Beyonce deserved that award more than her, but hey, Bee was off message too huh?
I agree with your post. First the puppet and then tha real Gaga on the Piano.
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To Believe 777
I really don't know what to think about Gaga. She really seems to be a puppet for me. Maybe there are 2 Gagas but when you say that she doesn't like her imagery but still keep on going on with this same imagery there is something that consolidate me in the conclusion that she knows she's being manipulated and that she accepts it. She knows the game and plays it.
Beyonce received many Grammys that night because she's in the game together with her husband Jay-Z. They are at a "higher level" that's why she was awarded that much. Maybe Gaga's time has not yet come she has to prove something. There's a kind of ritual to go through first.
Do you really think that the way Gaga is expressing herself via her videos, her artistry, will make people aware of what is going on in the music industry ? Many people who follow her are teenagers they don't know what's behind, they just see things at face value and what she shows to them is not leading to reflexion, to awareness. Fans (especially young fans) take these people as their models. This is dangerous. I think that if you really want to expose some truths, to expose an enemy you don't use the exact codes and methods this enemy is using. If Gaga aim is really to expose them (which I still doubt ) this will only have an impact on people who already know about these things, who have sufficient knowledge to decode things, not many people in reality.
Gaga is an example of the music industry manipulation process to me. She's like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. Just make a comparison between their beginnings and what they have become today. To me it speaks volumes.
This is just what I think I can be completely wrong and don't say this is the truth it's just what I feel. I think I'll keep an eye on Gaga to see how things evolve. If I realize that I'm wrong about her I'll admit it. I only search for the truth.
God bless you
What I bolded: it's not that long ago that I was a teen myself, and I think that people tend to underestimate their intelligence a lot- there's a good amount of TV shows on now and plenty of discussions about teen girls and sex and whatnot. They don't just see sex or hear about it in songs and think "I wanna do that!" For instance I adored plenty of Britney/Gaga-type pop music when I was younger (and still pretty much do) mainly for the funky sound of it, but I of course knew that artists just like to glamourize sex and that in real life they, and pretty much women don't just get jiggy with it with some man-ho they barely know.. Most teens that listen to that stuff are still smart girls with good heads on their shoulders. I mean I've always thought that the antics in music videos were a little silly and overdone, and I'm sure most teens just laugh at Gaga or feel a little uncomfortable. It's not hard to know when something isn't appropriate for you and a lot of times it makes you feel pre-etty awkward, not "I wanna be just like her!" Little girls are a concern, but most teens know better..
Another thing is that at those ages, romance is important, too- at least to me, just having sex for the hell of it is boring! It means nothing if you don't truly know/care for the person, and most teens know that! Sex is meant to be a passionate affair between two people, and even now I would only want to do at a perfect, unplanned, beautiful moment with a guy I love, you know? Maybe that's just me, but I definitely know that teen girls can be just as romantic..
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I really don't know what to think about Gaga. She really seems to be a puppet for me. Maybe there are 2 Gagas but when you say that she doesn't like her imagery but still keep on going on with this same imagery there is something that consolidate me in the conclusion that she knows she's being manipulated and that she accepts it. She knows the game and plays it.
Beyonce received many Grammys that night because she's in the game together with her husband Jay-Z. They are at a "higher level" that's why she was awarded that much. Maybe Gaga's time has not yet come she has to prove something. There's a kind of ritual to go through first.
Do you really think that the way Gaga is expressing herself via her videos, her artistry, will make people aware of what is going on in the music industry ? Many people who follow her are teenagers they don't know what's behind, they just see things at face value and what she shows to them is not leading to reflexion, to awareness. Fans (especially young fans) take these people as their models. This is dangerous. I think that if you really want to expose some truths, to expose an enemy you don't use the exact codes and methods this enemy is using. If Gaga aim is really to expose them (which I still doubt ) this will only have an impact on people who already know about these things, who have sufficient knowledge to decode things, not many people in reality.
Gaga is an example of the music industry manipulation process to me. She's like Britney Spears or Christina Aguilera. Just make a comparison between their beginnings and what they have become today. To me it speaks volumes.
This is just what I think I can be completely wrong and don't say this is the truth it's just what I feel. I think I'll keep an eye on Gaga to see how things evolve. If I realize that I'm wrong about her I'll admit it. I only search for the truth.
God bless you
What I bolded: it's not that long ago that I was a teen myself, and I think that people tend to underestimate their intelligence a lot- there's a good amount of TV shows on now and plenty of discussions about teen girls and sex and whatnot. They don't just see sex or hear about it in songs and think "I wanna do that!" For instance I adored plenty of Britney/Gaga-type pop music when I was younger (and still pretty much do) mainly for the funky sound of it, but I of course knew that artists just like to glamourize sex and that in real life they, and pretty much women don't just get jiggy with it with some man-ho they barely know.. Most teens that listen to that stuff are still smart girls with good heads on their shoulders. I mean I've always thought that the antics in music videos were a little silly and overdone, and I'm sure most teens just laugh at Gaga or feel a little uncomfortable. It's not hard to know when something isn't appropriate for you and a lot of times it makes you feel pre-etty awkward, not "I wanna be just like her!" Little girls are a concern, but most teens know better..
Another thing is that at those ages, romance is important, too- at least to me, just having sex for the hell of it is boring! It means nothing if you don't truly know/care for the person, and most teens know that! Sex is meant to be a passionate affair between two people, and even now I would only want to do at a perfect, unplanned, beautiful moment with a guy I love, you know? Maybe that's just me, but I definitely know that teen girls can be just as romantic..
I agree, young adults these days are far more mature deep down than a lot of people think. I know many that have strong minds and think very much for themselves and with an open mind. They can be surprisingly insightful. They think independantly and logically and I can often talk far more openly to them than I can to older/wiser? adults. Many adults I know are trapped in their beliefs and I am so pleased we have young adults who are prepared to challenge previously feared ideas. We need these people who are prepared to question everything. I am not saying this is across the board but certainly the ones I have come into contact with, which brings me so much hope for our future.
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I am really pleased that everyone is thinking about this even if it is negative because I believe that we are in for a few suprises!!!
Just think for a second - through years of Michael asking us to change , love eachother and look into and find his 'missing' childhood - have we done it ? Sometimes we only see something if it disgusts us - and that is the point - we have to make some serious life changes that will not come easily so we need the shocks aswell as the love.
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I have just found this article - ;
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Producer RedOne poses in the press room at The GRAMMY Nominations Concert Live! at Club Nokia on December 2, 2009 in Los Angeles, California.
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Grammys Will Stage 3-D Tribute To Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson will be a focal point of the Grammys, with an unprecedented posthumous tribute.
Grammy-nominated producer RedOne, who helped Lady Gaga top charts around the world, believes that music he worked on with Michael Jackson before the singer's death could yet be released.
The 37-year-old producer, born in Morocco and steeped in European pop and rock after spending several years in Sweden, recorded with the "king of pop" in Las Vegas in 2008 and 2009 and in Los Angeles in 2009, before Jackson's death aged 50.
While the results are far from the finished product, RedOne, whose real name is Nadir Khayat, believes he has enough material to work on for a record, although any release would have to involve agreement with Jackson's record label and estate.
"I have big plans," he told Reuters at a recording studio in London, where he has been working with other artists.
"There is material that could come out [from the Jackson sessions]," he added.
"In case I'm going to release something, I would do it for charity, for something that he would have been proud of, because you always felt like everybody wanted to take advantage of him though his life," said RedOne, considered one of the world's top producers after his partnership with Lady Gaga.
Recalling his collaboration with Jackson, he said: "The music we were doing was good, really good...very energetic, uplifting. It's sad that we never finished the material.
"Michael always has been focused on having hits, not having songs, so he always records a lot of songs and takes the best of them and that's his formula which I love. We were doing good quality music and it's never been finished."
RedOne has been nominated for four Grammys -- the music industry's top honors -- ahead of the January 31 ceremony, where stars will perform a tribute to Jackson.
HITS IN AN INSTANT
RedOne said he was initially reluctant to work with Lady Gaga, who did not have a record contract when they first met.
But they immediately clicked, Lady Gaga was signed by a major label soon after and the rest, said RedOne, "is history."
"It happens so quick, we know each other, we're good musically," he said of his collaboration with the flamboyant 23-year-old New Yorker.
"We're not overthinking. We just do what we feel right...Before you know it the song is pretty much done.
"I'm not saying that is the way it should be, but in this case that's what happened -- we wrote 'Just Dance' in one hour. Done. 'Poker Face'? One hour. It just happened. Magic."
Their success has opened countless doors to RedOne, who said he was determined to concentrate on quality not quantity.
He has just been recording with Alexandra Burke and Kylie Minogue, among others.
"To me I was expecting a diva, you know, somebody who's going to be like [that] because she's been doing it for so long," he said of Minogue, who is expected to release a new album later this year.
"It was fun, easy to work with her. We did three songs in two days...[and] we said we're going to do more songs in LA."
RedOne attributed his success to his upbringing in Morocco, where he had access to a broad range of musical styles particularly because he was one of nine children.
He also said he enjoyed the success and recognition that producing brought, particularly because it came without the trappings of fame. And his biggest wish? To work with U2.
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/posting.php?mode=reply&f=48&t=4627
for reference
Love to you all x
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I think this is the link from stargazerMJ11 info.
So we have a strong, current link between Gaga and Michael with Redone producer :!: :D
http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/591102 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/591102)
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Nice post! :D
I stated this on another post, but since this is new maybe more will see it...she played all Michael songs before she came out on stage at her concert in Detroit on January 13th. The crowd went wild and we were all dancing! She's a fan!
And, she is a great performer with a message of love...sound familiar?? She is anti-hate, anti-fame, anti-paparazzi...sound familiar?? She wears outfits that make a statement...sound familiar?? I am just saying she's not a shock to me to be considered by Michael.
Same thing here in MOntreal, Canada in NOvember :lol: i suspect her since the VMA.....