Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on January 28, 2010, 06:52:55 PM

Title: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 28, 2010, 06:52:55 PM
Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- Michael Jackson's two eldest children are scheduled to take the stage this weekend to accept the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award for their father, Jackson family sources said.

It would be the first public appearance for Prince Michael, 12, and Paris, 11, since their dramatic appearance at the memorial service 12 days after their father's death.

"The whole world is waiting to see these children blossom," said Brian Oxman, a lawyer for Joe Jackson.

Two sources close to the family said the youngest, 7-year-old Blanket, was not expected to appear, although they suggested that might change.

Contrary to some media reports, the sources said there was no plan for the children to sing or dance at the show.

The Recording Academy, which presents the Grammy Awards, will honor the late pop star with a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Special Merit Awards ceremony Saturday evening in Los Angeles.

Video of the presentation is likely to be included in Sunday night's musical tribute to Jackson during the Grammy telecast, the sources said.

While Katherine Jackson, Michael's mother, is expected to attend, Joe Jackson, his father, decided not to go because of his anger over the behind-the-scenes talks that led to the agreement to have the children accept the award, family sources said.

The decision came just this week, after Katherine Jackson, the legal guardian of the children, complained to Grammy producers that no family members had been invited, the Jackson sources said.

Two sources in the family said that she was initially told by producers that the estate's special administrators would decide who would take part in the Jackson tribute.

"Can you believe this crap?" one source quoted Joe Jackson as saying when he heard that.

The Grammy producers have not responded to a CNN request for comment.

A spokesman for the estate administrators said the matter was for Grammy producers to decide.

"Why is a stranger making family decisions?" asked Oxman, the lawyer who is representing Michael Jackson's father in a legal battle with the administrators.

Oxman said those administrators have disconnected the Jackson family from any decisions involving Michael Jackson's legacy.

Oxman was in a Los Angeles court Thursday where a judge set May 26 as the date he will hear testimony in Joe Jackson's request for a monthly allowance from his son's estate. Joe Jackson, 80, said he depended on his son's financial support for years before his death.

The administrators, lawyer John Branca and former music executive John McClain, contend he has not shown how he was "actually dependent" on Michael Jackson.

The estate lawyers said the expenses Joe Jackson wants covered by the estate -- including vacations, air travel, assistants and legal fees -- are not reasonable. They also noted that while Jackson's mother and three children were named as beneficiaries in his will written in July 2002, Joe Jackson was not.

Joe Jackson is challenging the validity of that will, which names Branca and McClain as executors, but so far the court has refused to hear his arguments.

The judge overseeing probate of the will already awarded $60,000 in monthly support for the three children and $26,000 a month for Katherine Jackson, starting from June 25, 2009, the day Michael Jackson died.

CNN has learned that Katherine Jackson has not received any of the money ordered for her because of a judgment in a lawsuit nearly two decades ago.

A South Korean newspaper, the Segye Times, sued Michael Jackson in 1990, claiming he failed to perform at a series of concerts they had already paid him for. The lawsuit also named Katherine Jackson, Joe Jackson and another one of their sons, Jermaine Jackson.

Michael Jackson's lawyers reached an out-of-court settlement with the newspaper, but his parents and brother did not. When they failed to fight it in court, a California judge issued a $4 million summary judgment against them, which has now grown with interest to about $8 million, according to court papers.


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Mus ... /?hpt=Sbin (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/28/michael.jackson.family/?hpt=Sbin)
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: alovesmichael on January 28, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
Ok what I'm thinking about doesn't have anything to do with the children attending the Grammys but this article got me thinking again. We've all seen Joe's slip-ups and his odd behaviour but I'm thinking that if he was in on the hoax he surely wouldn't be fighting for Michael's money all the time right? And if he's not aware of the hoax it would mean that those weird things he's been saying aren't actually slip-ups just him being very cold and stupid  :?
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Post by: mjboogie on January 28, 2010, 07:23:13 PM
IDK guys this aint looking too good for a hoax. :(
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: BillieJean on January 28, 2010, 07:25:11 PM
I don't know what to think of that. Isn't that exactly what Michael didn't wan't for his kids? To be exposed to the world?

I really don't know. I mean I don't think they are old enough to make such a big decision. And Katherine admitting to that somehow doesn't add up.  :?

So there are two conclusions for me. Either MJ will be there and BAM or he is really gone and the family is just plane cold and taking advantage of the kids.

For the kids sake, I hope it's the first one but I somehow doubt MJ will come back at the Grammys.

Hmmm
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: Kenzie on January 28, 2010, 07:52:41 PM
I hope Michael comes back at the Grammys, if he doesn't I agree with the poster above... not looking to good for the hoax. I know that Michael would not want those kids on the stage, not without him at least...

BUT i still have hope that Sunday may be the night. Everything has fallen together, and it may be time. (Although i always felt it would be much longer) I can imagine the children up their accepting and then out of no where they introduce their father and he comes out singing and danceing : )
I think though, that if Prince and Paris get up there and talk about their father being dead that, that is the truth. I like to think that the family would not have the kids get up there and lie, but you never know....

I want so badly for him to be alive, I guess it's all a waiting game at this point.
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Post by: awesome1 on January 28, 2010, 08:01:04 PM
joe jackson just sounds like more and more of an ass everytine he opens his trap
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Post by: GirlSaturday on January 28, 2010, 08:17:12 PM
Two sources in the family said that she was initially told by producers that the estate's special administrators would decide who would take part in the Jackson tribute.

"Can you believe this crap?" one source quoted Joe Jackson as saying when he heard that.


I don't normally pay attention to statements by people named "Source". However, if the Grammy producers  turned to the estate instead of the family to decide who gets in on the tribute then I wholeheartedly agree with how Joseph reportedly reacted. So does everything related to Mj have to be screened by and approved by the estate i.e Branca and McLane? Is  the name Michael Jackson  and all entities using the MJ brand now  completely controlled and owned by those two? Scary indeed.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: mykidsmum on January 28, 2010, 08:30:32 PM
Quote from: "BillieJean"
I don't know what to think of that. Isn't that exactly what Michael didn't wan't for his kids? To be exposed to the world?

I really don't know. I mean I don't think they are old enough to make such a big decision. And Katherine admitting to that somehow doesn't add up.  :?

So there are two conclusions for me. Either MJ will be there and BAM or he is really gone and the family is just plane cold and taking advantage of the kids.

For the kids sake, I hope it's the first one but I somehow doubt MJ will come back at the Grammys.

Hmmm
I think that MJ was worried about exposure his kids would have with the state of his reputation at the time and the way the world thought of him...Now, with the advent of his "death" he is now celebrated for the genius he was and the contributions he made to the world.  I think the light that the children stand under has gone from negative to positive and had this happend while MJ was alive, I think he would have relented and not gone to such extremes to "cover" the children.  He never wanted his kids to be called "Wako Jaco's Kids"  Now they are simply, the King of Pop's Children... Besides, they are getting to the age where they no doubt are starting to make their own decisions.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: msteetee34 on January 28, 2010, 08:31:12 PM
I think this would be a strategic move to the hoax because Jermaine and Latoya have been the spokespersons for everything and people are becoming suspicious of their behavior including Janet when she did her interview she was acting very strange.  The more his family does things the more his death seem fake because their behavior is so odd.  Having the children accept the award is something that no one would ever expect because everyone always says that MJ would never put his kids in the spotlight.  Well just like at the memorial no one was expecting Paris to speak on her dad's behalf.  This come totally out from left field the children accepting the award.  Plus prior to June 25th MJ was starting to unveil his children himself in public.  It's like he got to the point where he knew it was time for them to be seen to the world.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: PureLove on January 28, 2010, 09:27:27 PM
Quote from: "BillieJean"
I don't know what to think of that. Isn't that exactly what Michael didn't wan't for his kids? To be exposed to the world?

I really don't know. I mean I don't think they are old enough to make such a big decision. And Katherine admitting to that somehow doesn't add up.  :?

So there are two conclusions for me. Either MJ will be there and BAM or he is really gone and the family is just plane cold and taking advantage of the kids.

For the kids sake, I hope it's the first one but I somehow doubt MJ will come back at the Grammys.

Hmmm

Michael exposed his kids before June 25th and if he really didn't want to expose them he wouldn't put them on stage at the memorial, don't ya think? ;)
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Post by: ejay on January 28, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
ugh, i don't know..but for me when ever those kids are involved with something public(Paris at memorial and now the Grammy acceptance) it's like we are being reminded and forced to accept the death..ya know what I mean? Nothing against the kids..but it's like if they speak it's more real.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: jill on January 28, 2010, 11:30:52 PM
From what the article said that the Grammy producers told Katherine the executors would decide who was involved in the show.  It sounds like they put her in a position where she had no choice but to let the children except the award or the family would have been excluded.  And why would the executors be the ones to make the decsision?  Could it be they are doing this to force Michael's hand and make him come out of hiding?  We do not really know if Michael actually did hire Branca back before his "death".  I don't trust this guy.  He has been in bed with Sony for so long, it certainly looks like he is working more for them than the MJ estate.  This whole senario seems very sinister to me.  When I read the article I got a sick feeling in my stomach.  There is a lot we are not reading between the lines.  If it was murder (one where no charges have been filed yet, mind you!), you would think Katherine would be overly protective of the children and would not want them on stage.  And I think up to this point she has been.  They have not been seen in public much at all in the past couple of months.  It's almost as if they are holding something over her head to force her to do this.  I don't like what's happening.  They couldn't control MJ, now they are trying to exercise control over the kids.  In this instance I think Joe has a right to be pissed!
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Post by: juliet on January 29, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
JILL, I don't like what's happening either.  Everything is manipulation. I have to hold my emotions/reactions til the Grammy night itself. The media, well, we know that we can't trust them either.  I'm just wondering, I haven't heard anything from TMZ.  Just recently, everybody was talking about the Jackson's Dynasty - now they are all quiet because....the next plan is The Children? In my belief, Michael wouldn't agree to exploit his children or any other children. But I really don't know who is pulling the strings (puppeteer)

From JUNE 25, people from MJ's turf are taking turns with the media/limelight and all of a sudden, they're quiet and Michael is supposed to receive an award. Didn't anybody(media) interview the family about how they feel about the awards,etc. regarding the Grammy? Especially Jermaine, he has always something to say. and La Toya, would love to be in the Grammy and I was expecting her to say something in excitement about his brother.

I really don't know what's going on. From the TII Movie Theater Showings, then the coming out of 2 types of DVD versions(Normal DVD & BluRay) which I doubt the contents are the same. So, we have TII MOVIE THEATER, then TII MOVIE DVD, then TII MOVIE BLURAY.
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Post by: ibelieveinmj on January 29, 2010, 01:06:54 AM
This doesn't make sense to me either, it never did, especially with the children being exposed right before his "death".  And it does kind of give me a sick feeling too, that he is gone (sorry if I offend anyone that thinks I should have 100% faith he is alive)  but this is where it gets me.  If he is alive how could they be acting that he's not?   and to continue on with the facade with children?   the adults I'm okay with but the kids?   This is when I start feeling a little impatient - I pray MJ is okay, even if he never returns......
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Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 29, 2010, 02:09:16 AM
I'm with you guys...this isn't looking very good, and things just don't seem right.  I don't blame Joe for his reaction if this is true about the Grammys.  His family should be the ones making these kinds of decisions, not the estate lawyers.  I'm really surprised the kids will be accepting the Grammy though...I just can't imagine MJ would want that.  

And are they saying that the state will be garnishing all of Katherine's allowance until she pays back her share of the $8 million lawsuit?  That would take almost 10 years if she lives that long.  If MJ is alive, would he allow this to happen?   Why does Joe think he'd see a penny, even if they do end up awarding him an allowance, if Katherine basically gets nothing?  So many questions...  :?
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: MashMike on January 29, 2010, 03:05:42 AM
Only the thing that Michael's kids are receiveing a lifetime award for their daddy does not mean anything negative,c'mon,noone knows what Michael would want  or wouldn't want,noone knows his thoughts,how can one say that he wouldn't want his children to show up at Grammy's and honour their daddy,to show their respect and immense love for him,if he wouldn't want to ,he wouldn't have exposed their faces just after his "death",don't forget,when he was talking to the AEG director(or who is he ) early in 2009,he said that now his children are old enough to realize his legacy,don't u think that now Michael wants them to live a normal life,not to be hidden always,why are u giving up so easily?peace.
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Post by: MJalive999 on January 29, 2010, 03:19:52 AM
not good?
sorry, they know what they are doing! Like it or not.
c'mon guys! The world is more complicated than you think. and they are not STUPID!
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Post by: KINGdom52 on January 29, 2010, 03:25:10 AM
Quote from: "MashMike"
Only the thing that Michael's kids are receiveing a lifetime award for their daddy does not mean anything negative,c'mon,noone knows what Michael would want or wouldn't want,noone knows his thoughts,how can one say that he wouldn't want his children to show up at Grammy's and honour their daddy,to show their respect and immense love for him,if he wouldn't want to ,he wouldn't have exposed their faces just after his "death",don't forget,when he was talking to the AEG director(or who is he ) early in 2009,he said that now his children are old enough to realize his legacy,don't u think that now Michael wants them to live a normal life,not to be hidden always,why are u giving up so easily?peace.

Why we loose  our faith to Michael so easily ???
How could we know what Mike wants or doesn't want???
How could we know that he's not behind all these pulling the strings ???
He let the kids step on the stage during the memorial plus to have a speech.
Now who would be a better person to accept the award for him if not his children ???

I feel that will come more difficult times in the future that will shake our faith (including myself).
But isn't that when we have to stay firm as beLIEvers ???
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Post by: itsall4love on January 29, 2010, 03:50:05 AM
I have to agree with PureLove.
The kids have been exposed before June 25th and I think it was a strategic move, well planed beforehand. I don't think this is bad news for the hoax, although I'm not actually expecting a comeback at the Grammys.
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Post by: MJalive999 on January 29, 2010, 03:52:06 AM
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Why we loose  our faith to Michael so easily ???
How could we know what Mike wants or doesn't want???
How could we know that he's not behind all these pulling the strings ???
He let the kids step on the stage during the memorial plus to have a speech.
Now who would be a better person to accept the award for him if not his children ???

I feel that will come more difficult times in the future that will shake our faith (including myself).
But isn't that when we have to stay firm as beLIEvers ???

patience!
i quit!...i mean, they are 'losing the faith...maybe they never had it lol
i just can't believe that after 7 months, after clues and more clues, people still are thinking ''omg, he is alive...oh no..he is gone.... no wait, i think he is alive or maybe..'' oh pls! believe or not. if not, BYE!
MJ needs strong people with him! what's to come, is not a joke! humanity is threatened, and  seems you have not yet understood (and i am talking about The End of the World yes...The Unholy Trinity ... ;)
Few of us will survive all those tests!   Or you wake up, or...sorry!

HE IS ALIVE! HE IS ____ALIVE_____!
BUT, IF HE WILL COME BACK...SOON! IDK. MAYBE IT'S NOT SAFE!
IF HE WON'T COME BACK, DON'T MEAN  THAT HE IS GONE! PLS, GUYS! THINK ABOUT!

love to you!
*sleeps*
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: onemorechance on January 29, 2010, 04:03:24 AM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
Two sources in the family said that she was initially told by producers that the estate's special administrators would decide who would take part in the Jackson tribute.

"Can you believe this crap?" one source quoted Joe Jackson as saying when he heard that.


I don't normally pay attention to statements by people named "Source". However, if the Grammy producers  turned to the estate instead of the family to decide who gets in on the tribute then I wholeheartedly agree with how Joseph reportedly reacted. So does everything related to Mj have to be screened by and approved by the estate i.e Branca and McLane? Is  the name Michael Jackson  and all entities using the MJ brand now  completely controlled and owned by those two? Scary indeed.
And the children are not part of the estate, they are human beings. How could the lawyers decide about their appearence at the Grammys???? Katherine should take care of these matters. The children are her responsibilities.

Joe's fightings for the money is either not very good for the hoax. Not at all.
Mike 1000% sure not coming back on Sunday. I find it impossible for him to pop out from nowhere, just to make a big entrance. I wish I proved to be wrong... :?
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Post by: KINGdom52 on January 29, 2010, 04:13:19 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
patience!
i quit!...i mean, they are 'losing the faith...maybe they never had it lol
i just can't believe that after 7 months, after clues and more clues, people still are thinking ''omg, he is alive...oh no..he is gone.... no wait, i think he is alive or maybe..'' oh pls! believe or not. if not, BYE!
MJ needs strong people with him! what's to come, is not a joke! humanity is threatened, and seems you have not yet understood (and i am talking about The End of the World yes...The Unholy Trinity ...
Few of us will survive all those tests! Or you wake up, or...sorry!

HE IS ALIVE! HE IS ____ALIVE_____!
BUT, IF HE WILL COME BACK...SOON! IDK. MAYBE IT'S NOT SAFE!
IF HE WON'T COME BACK, DON'T MEAN THAT HE IS GONE! PLS, GUYS! THINK ABOUT!

love to you!

 ;) !
I still have that feeling that is not yet the right time to come back ! Just my sense !
He knows better !
Why we expect everything to be in our way ?
Aren't we already selfish enough ?
Patience is a virtue , my friends.
Everything comes to the one who knows to wait. :)

(Unholy trinity ? I've had forgot about it , thanks  ;) )
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Post by: karmaknowstruth on January 29, 2010, 04:34:08 AM
G'moring,   hmmm this is a puzzler.  I'm still on MJ being alive.  I'm thinking back at the memorial service circus on stage when Paris gave her speech.  It was obvious to us they were all acting shady, giving too many clues to a hoax going on right?  And the fact we still are watching them like hawks and they too are keeping track of our investigation...who knows who else is watching us or them....I think sending the kids to get the award is probably the best cover to keep his hoax running smooth.  

I'm not sure why all the legal junk was included in the article but it's worth looking into.

Think about this - I'm sure many folks in Hollywood suspect a hoax and not happy about it in their face too long,,,celebrities are very competitive. The Jackson gang taking up how many seats? and creating a circus scene marching up on stage taking up time, when in fact the award is not about them it's about Michael.  Not good for a cover up, that would be over kill.

also I SERIOUSLY DOUBT MICHAEL WILL SUDDENLY POP OUT LIVE - Sorry, but that is a ridiculous fantasy.  He is in hiding !  It is NOT his style to do that.  I would be surprized if that happened.

xoxoxo
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Post by: KINGdom52 on January 29, 2010, 04:45:20 AM
@ MJalive999
 
Thank you!
 and if you remembered something else ...please ! ;)
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Post by: DooDoo on January 29, 2010, 04:48:50 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "KINGdom52"
Why we loose  our faith to Michael so easily ???
How could we know what Mike wants or doesn't want???
How could we know that he's not behind all these pulling the strings ???
He let the kids step on the stage during the memorial plus to have a speech.
Now who would be a better person to accept the award for him if not his children ???

I feel that will come more difficult times in the future that will shake our faith (including myself).
But isn't that when we have to stay firm as beLIEvers ???

patience!
i quit!...i mean, they are 'losing the faith...maybe they never had it lol
i just can't believe that after 7 months, after clues and more clues, people still are thinking ''omg, he is alive...oh no..he is gone.... no wait, i think he is alive or maybe..'' oh pls! believe or not. if not, BYE!
MJ needs strong people with him! what's to come, is not a joke! humanity is threatened, and  seems you have not yet understood (and i am talking about The End of the World yes...The Unholy Trinity ... ;)
Few of us will survive all those tests!   Or you wake up, or...sorry!

HE IS ALIVE! HE IS ____ALIVE_____!
BUT, IF HE WILL COME BACK...SOON! IDK. MAYBE IT'S NOT SAFE!
IF HE WON'T COME BACK, DON'T MEAN  THAT HE IS GONE! PLS, GUYS! THINK ABOUT!

love to you!
*sleeps*
You're right!!! ;)
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 29, 2010, 05:05:29 AM
I'm confused now...MJ's lifetime achievement award will be presented at the Special Merit Awards ceremony on Saturday night, so why would MJ's kids take the stage at the Grammy's if they're not accepting it there?  It sounds like they're just going to play video of them accepting it at the Grammys.
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Post by: alovesmichael on January 29, 2010, 06:39:33 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I'm confused now...MJ's lifetime achievement award will be presented at the Special Merit Awards ceremony on Saturday night, so why would MJ's kids take the stage at the Grammy's if they're accepting it there?  It sounds like they're just going to play video of them accepting it at the Grammys.

exactly what I was gonna point put  :)  That would make it more positive though wouldn't it? Not putting all that pressure on the kids, being in front of a big crowd and live and all...
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Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 29, 2010, 06:41:24 AM
Yes, it makes me feel a whole lot better.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: MashMike on January 29, 2010, 09:57:39 AM
to MJalive999 and KINGdom52

Amen,absolutely agree with u. :)
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Post by: MashMike on January 29, 2010, 09:59:11 AM
to MJalive and KINGdom52


Amen,absolutely agree with u. :)  :)
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Post by: Em on January 29, 2010, 10:03:54 AM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
I'm confused now...MJ's lifetime achievement award will be presented at the Special Merit Awards ceremony on Saturday night, so why would MJ's kids take the stage at the Grammy's if they're not accepting it there?  It sounds like they're just going to play video of them accepting it at the Grammys.

Yes, that's what it sounds like to me too. The Grammys have ceremonies before the actual show. Last year I went to a Salute To Classical music which was filmed at the Disney Concert Hall about a week before the televised Grammys. They gave the conductor the award then.

http://www.grammy.org/Recording_Academy ... ewsID=3660 (http://www.grammy.org/Recording_Academy/News/Default.aspx?newsID=3660)
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Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on January 29, 2010, 10:18:03 AM
Quote from: "karmaknowstruth"
G'moring,   hmmm this is a puzzler.  I'm still on MJ being alive.  I'm thinking back at the memorial service circus on stage when Paris gave her speech.  It was obvious to us they were all acting shady, giving too many clues to a hoax going on right?  And the fact we still are watching them like hawks and they too are keeping track of our investigation...who knows who else is watching us or them....I think sending the kids to get the award is probably the best cover to keep his hoax running smooth.  
I'm not sure why all the legal junk was included in the article but it's worth looking into.

Think about this - I'm sure many folks in Hollywood suspect a hoax and not happy about it in their face too long,,,celebrities are very competitive. The Jackson gang taking up how many seats? and creating a circus scene marching up on stage taking up time, when in fact the award is not about them it's about Michael.  Not good for a cover up, that would be over kill.

also I SERIOUSLY DOUBT MICHAEL WILL SUDDENLY POP OUT LIVE - Sorry, but that is a ridiculous fantasy.  He is in hiding !  It is NOT his style to do that.  I would be surprized if that happened.

xoxoxo


EXACTLY!!! Maybe the kids accepting the award has something to do with the Jackson Twitter after the final episode? Maybe the family thought "oh god, this is falling apart..look at all these tweets saying our emotion isnt real, we have to do something..."

Then all of a sudden...the kids will be in the spotlight once again accepting an award for their father in front of a WORLDWIDE audience...most people who were even slight fans of MJ know how he protected those kids. He protected them fiercly...and to see them at the memorial was kind of like a "well if the kids are up on stage for all the world to see, then MJ must really be dead" type thing. SO, the family/estate, KNOWING we know MJ is alive, are putting the kids out there agin to make us change our minds because they know that we know MJ wouldnt allow it...I really dont think MJ had or was even allowed to have any say in it at all. If he did give his permission then he did it to protect himslef...which confirms he knows about us here.
Did that make sense?

Damage Control anyone??LOL
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Post by: Sangre on January 29, 2010, 11:44:47 AM
I thought Blanket was the one to follow his dad's footsteps. The family have said nothing about Prince and Paris, but they'll never stop talking about how Blanket dances.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: jill on January 29, 2010, 01:08:57 PM
I still have to go with my gut feeling that there is something sinister in all of this.  I have never been wrong before when I listen to my heart.  There is so much we don't know.  I started into this because there were so many things that blatantly did not add up.  I watched Michael Jackson grow up but was not a huge fan.  I started searching for information after his "death" when what I was hearing and seeing in the news seemed to be glaring lies.  I am looking for the differences in reports that I see on the news or read on the hoax sites, trying to discern what is real and why is hype.  I am begining to think all of the misinformation is deliberate.  What I am saying is I am after the Truth.  From all I have learned so far, if Michael did stage his death it was because he was in great danger.  I do not believe it was so he could jump out on stage and start performing at the Grammys to shock everyone.  Have we considered the possibility that he was taken and is alive and the hoax is being perpetuated by those who may be holding him?  I know that sounds very far fetched, but so far everything has been far fetched with this whole thing!   However, if it was murder, we must realize these are very evil people.  Keep in mind it happened with his children in his home!  Either way, the children are without their father, have moved from their home where their sense of security was and are constantly persued by the press.  That right there is enough to keep them out of the public eye.  That is why I believe Katherine Jackson has been forced into letting them except the award.  If the attorneys for the Jackson estate are the ones pulling the strings in this situation what they have done is dispicable!

Maybe I am just an over pertective mother but I would not let these kids out of my sight.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: Michaelareuok on January 29, 2010, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: "BillieJean"
I don't know what to think of that. Isn't that exactly what Michael didn't wan't for his kids? To be exposed to the world?

I really don't know. I mean I don't think they are old enough to make such a big decision. And Katherine admitting to that somehow doesn't add up.  :?

So there are two conclusions for me. Either MJ will be there and BAM or he is really gone and the family is just plane cold and taking advantage of the kids.

For the kids sake, I hope it's the first one but I somehow doubt MJ will come back at the Grammys.

Hmmm
OMG you guys I am so voting #1 he has recieved other awards since June and it was usually a sibling accepting right? And we know Janet not being at the Grammys is just not possible right? So why wouldnt she accept for Michael? Soooo I believe that the kids accepting this award on behalf of Michael may possibly lead to either a video message from somewhere from Michael or an actual apearance with the kids on stage that would shock the world as it was shocked on June 25th.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 29, 2010, 02:01:50 PM
My comment upon this is as follows:

 :)
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: lilith on January 29, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Does anyone here remember this?

Quote
Feb 2005
GR: Tell me, tell me what the children mean to you, your own children.

MJ: They mean, it’s hard to put it into words because they mean everything. The way you would explain how your children make you feel... They’re the world for me, I wake up and I’m ready for the day because of them. I get them breakfast, I change diapers, if they want to read, we do a lot of reading, we play hide and seek, we play blind fold and have a wonderful time with it.

GR: And you can create a world that at least begins to seem normal? They don’t know any other world obviously.

MJ: I do my best for sure.

GR: So, that is obviously a priority to you

MJ: Yes of course. I want to be the best father in the world of course.

GR: Do they know who you are? Or what you mean to people?

MJ: Yes, they do. They’ve been on tours with me and in limousines among a sea of fans.

GR: Do they like it?

MJ: They find it exciting. They want to get on stage. They bug me to go on stage with me. So, pretty sure I ‘m going to take them on with me and let the world see them for the first time.

GR: They don’t say, ‘Daddy I want to go home and watch Nickelodeon?’

MJ: (Laughs) Probably, probably.

GR: They do that too.

MJ: Yes.
http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/interviews/geraldorivera.html
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: bluegurl201 on January 29, 2010, 05:27:40 PM
Quote from: "awesome1"
joe jackson just sounds like more and more of an ass everytine he opens his trap
haha exactly what I would say  :lol:
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 29, 2010, 05:31:19 PM
Notice how MJ says he gets up every morning and makes the kids breakfast?
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: bluegurl201 on January 29, 2010, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: "jill"
I still have to go with my gut feeling that there is something sinister in all of this.  I have never been wrong before when I listen to my heart.  There is so much we don't know.  I started into this because there were so many things that blatantly did not add up.  I watched Michael Jackson grow up but was not a huge fan.  I started searching for information after his "death" when what I was hearing and seeing in the news seemed to be glaring lies.  I am looking for the differences in reports that I see on the news or read on the hoax sites, trying to discern what is real and why is hype.  I am begining to think all of the misinformation is deliberate.  What I am saying is I am after the Truth.  From all I have learned so far, if Michael did stage his death it was because he was in great danger.  I do not believe it was so he could jump out on stage and start performing at the Grammys to shock everyone.  Have we considered the possibility that he was taken and is alive and the hoax is being perpetuated by those who may be holding him?  I know that sounds very far fetched, but so far everything has been far fetched with this whole thing!   However, if it was murder, we must realize these are very evil people.  Keep in mind it happened with his children in his home!  Either way, the children are without their father, have moved from their home where their sense of security was and are constantly persued by the press.  That right there is enough to keep them out of the public eye.  That is why I believe Katherine Jackson has been forced into letting them except the award.  If the attorneys for the Jackson estate are the ones pulling the strings in this situation what they have done is dispicable!

Maybe I am just an over pertective mother but I would not let these kids out of my sight.
:o
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: Kirsche on January 29, 2010, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: "BillieJean"
I don't know what to think of that. Isn't that exactly what Michael didn't wan't for his kids? To be exposed to the world?

I really don't know. I mean I don't think they are old enough to make such a big decision. And Katherine admitting to that somehow doesn't add up.  :?

So there are two conclusions for me. Either MJ will be there and BAM or he is really gone and the family is just plane cold and taking advantage of the kids.

For the kids sake, I hope it's the first one but I somehow doubt MJ will come back at the Grammys.

Hmmm


I can remember a video, where Michael asked Paris what she wants to do, when she's grown up. And she said" I wanna do the things, that you do, daddy" "What things?"

"Singing and dancing"

and yeah he said in some other interview ( I think with Geraldo 2005) he said something like it would be okay for him if the kids wanna do the same thing he does...
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: mehere on January 29, 2010, 06:42:48 PM
It could very well be that MJ wanted his children there to accept the award.  
I would have been surprised if Blanket was there.  He is too young.  
And as a dad MJ knows better having been through it himself.  
The two oldest are poised and ready and understand.
Of course Katherine has to be there as their legal guardian.  She is watching over them so-to-speak
Joe Jackson is playing the game.  Can't you see that?
As for Michael being there?  I don't think so.

So things are status quo.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: mrbigshot on January 29, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
Hope doesn't determine whether or not an individual is alive or gone. Faith doesn't offer substantial evidence that suggests that a celebrity is alive or not. We must therefore have faith in the surrounding evidence that is presented to us, and not have to cling to  Michael jackson as the source of evidence himself. That's what I feel the point a majority of members on this board are missing. the fact that we have to properly investigate is going to be the basis of uncovering the truth if it's out there. belief is always going to be criticized by the public, but if you have legitimate proof, not a single person will be able to debunk you. And again, if Michael turns out to be wiped away from the face of the earth, then you should have already prepared for this incident. It's been a while now, since the supposed "death".

I wanna see people actually take a stand and give us some insightful posts. Everybody knows Michael Jackson isn't learning impaired, and he's certainly not unintelligent. Thats why he got the title as the King Of Pop, due to his creativity and his revolutionary innovation. If this is a ploy that leads into the hoax, the kids accepting the awards, then I wouldn't be surprised as to see that unfold and view this entire comeback of his. I'm not going to give into this malicious BS that michael would expose his kids to the world unintentionally. He knows the risks associated with such an action, and if he did decide to do it, it's for a good cause. He won't blindly just lead them out there without a sense of direction.

THINK!
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: ejay on January 29, 2010, 09:39:47 PM
so I just saw on CNN that the kids will be accepting the award on Saturday and the video of their acceptance will play during Sundays grammys.
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: Grazzia on January 30, 2010, 06:03:39 AM
so we are going to see the kids tonight (saturday) accepting the award? or sunday (at the grammy's)?
like they will record them and the video we'll see it sunday?
sry is just in one part they say that today is the acceptance and in an other place they say that will be tomorrow
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 30, 2010, 11:11:24 AM
Finally i see TMZ have picked up on this story..   :lol:
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 30, 2010, 11:41:51 AM
I don't think the kids will be accepting his award, I hope they ´won't....
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: loma on January 30, 2010, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: "ejay"
so I just saw on CNN that the kids will be accepting the award on Saturday and the video of their acceptance will play during Sundays grammys.

That would leave lots of "editing time", wouldn't it.
 ;)
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on January 31, 2010, 12:11:05 PM
Quote from: "mrbigshot"
Hope doesn't determine whether or not an individual is alive or gone. Faith doesn't offer substantial evidence that suggests that a celebrity is alive or not. We must therefore have faith in the surrounding evidence that is presented to us, and not have to cling to  Michael jackson as the source of evidence himself. That's what I feel the point a majority of members on this board are missing. the fact that we have to properly investigate is going to be the basis of uncovering the truth if it's out there. belief is always going to be criticized by the public, but if you have legitimate proof, not a single person will be able to debunk you. And again, if Michael turns out to be wiped away from the face of the earth, then you should have already prepared for this incident. It's been a while now, since the supposed "death".

I wanna see people actually take a stand and give us some insightful posts. Everybody knows Michael Jackson isn't learning impaired, and he's certainly not unintelligent. Thats why he got the title as the King Of Pop, due to his creativity and his revolutionary innovation. If this is a ploy that leads into the hoax, the kids accepting the awards, then I wouldn't be surprised as to see that unfold and view this entire comeback of his. I'm not going to give into this malicious BS that michael would expose his kids to the world unintentionally. He knows the risks associated with such an action, and if he did decide to do it, it's for a good cause. He won't blindly just lead them out there without a sense of direction.

THINK!

(....in search of that "hand clapping smiley face."  Well said!   :!:
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 31, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
They are saying now that Blanket isn't expected to attend the show, but that could change...

Prince is supposed to read a statement on behalf of the family. What a brave young man.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/0 ... tml?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/31/grammys.michael.jackson/index.html?hpt=T2)
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 31, 2010, 02:23:14 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
They are saying now that Blanket isn't expected to attend the show, but that could change...

Prince is supposed to read a statement on behalf of the family. What a brave young man.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/0 ... tml?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/31/grammys.michael.jackson/index.html?hpt=T2)


Interesting how CNN have now changed their story, isnt it?
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: i_need YoU on January 31, 2010, 02:30:33 PM
this article was written not as recent as other sources...like last night Joe and the children were on CNN...so things change just like that article said...that they obviously dont know exactly whats going on because things change
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 31, 2010, 02:33:52 PM
Maybe these are the doves he's letting fly for the world to see..
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids at Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: KINGdom52 on January 31, 2010, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Maybe these are the doves he's letting fly for the world to see..

Nice !!! ;)
Title: Re: CNN confirm MJ kids ar Grammys.. but no Blanket.
Post by: raphaelleanique on January 31, 2010, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: "karmaknowstruth"
G'moring,   hmmm this is a puzzler.  I'm still on MJ being alive.  I'm thinking back at the memorial service circus on stage when Paris gave her speech.  It was obvious to us they were all acting shady, giving too many clues to a hoax going on right?  And the fact we still are watching them like hawks and they too are keeping track of our investigation...who knows who else is watching us or them....I think sending the kids to get the award is probably the best cover to keep his hoax running smooth.  

I'm not sure why all the legal junk was included in the article but it's worth looking into.

Think about this - I'm sure many folks in Hollywood suspect a hoax and not happy about it in their face too long,,,celebrities are very competitive. The Jackson gang taking up how many seats? and creating a circus scene marching up on stage taking up time, when in fact the award is not about them it's about Michael.  Not good for a cover up, that would be over kill.

also I SERIOUSLY DOUBT MICHAEL WILL SUDDENLY POP OUT LIVE - Sorry, but that is a ridiculous fantasy.  He is in hiding !  It is NOT his style to do that.  I would be surprized if that happened.

xoxoxo
Absolutely agree on that! There are a few interviews with MJ where he states quite clearly that his children will be and want to be on stage.The Geraldo interview for example and I remember more of them with that kind of comment.
No way that I think he will just jump out of nothing to show up.This is all far more complicated than we probably can imagine.
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