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Title: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJalive999 on January 15, 2010, 03:40:49 PM
8:27 ;)

[youtube:ynf3u7nw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzPSWQYRRrQ[/youtube:ynf3u7nw]
how many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: *Mo* on January 15, 2010, 03:48:45 PM
Very well said MJAlive999, you took the words right out of my mouth.

This is what I have been telling people for weeks, yet lots of them don't care, and are only interested in Mike's return.  I'm very sad about this, and really don't understand why so many people don't want to look into the WHY'S of the hoaxed death of the man they say they love so much...  I'm truly sad...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whisper on January 15, 2010, 03:49:52 PM
ofcourse we want to know why he did it and that is the most important thing !the reason  !!and i'm 100% sure it's for a strong reason ! definitely !!!
but the ppl saynig when will he return are those who aren't sure about the hoax ...
or afraid>>>like my self >to put too much hope  :( and  get disappointed  

BUT I WILL NEVER LOSE HOPE !! BECAUSE I NEVER FELT THIS WHY ABOUT SOMETHING!!
And this is not something !! this is IT  8-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Puff on January 15, 2010, 03:54:20 PM
Well Said, MjAlive999!
We MUST understand the REAL purpose of this hoax! His message is very important for all of us! :arrow:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mumof3 on January 15, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Very well said MJAlive999, you took the words right out of my mouth.

This is what I have been telling people for weeks, yet lots of them don't care, and are only interested in Mike's return.  I'm very sad about this, and really don't understand why so many people don't want to look into the WHY'S of the hoaxed death of the man they say they love so much...  I'm truly sad...
I understand what you mean Michael did all this for a big reason and we cant rush him we have to let him do it his way I have always felt that but people feel they can not wait sometimes I feel like that  it was only when I over heard a child say I think |Michael is alive he made some mistakes in the fake death  but people are trying to track him down and mess it up for him they are being stupid, this came from a young person who just said it as a passing comment and i thought  how right you might be and kept very quiet.
I have to say from the moment i heard of his "death" I did not feel he was dead and i followed my instincts and arrived here.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 15, 2010, 04:03:53 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
How many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift of God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!

Amen to that girl!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 15, 2010, 04:07:40 PM
Very well said, we need to look for the REASON why he did this we can look forever if he's alive we KNOW he's alive the main reason is that we need to know why he did this and we are on the right path, this is really important for all of us too like MJalive999 said this is more then a HOAX or RETURN!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjssoulmate on January 15, 2010, 04:08:52 PM
I agree!  Finding out the reason behind the hoax is more important than knowing the day of his return.  Whatever the reason maybe, I'm sure it was done for a very important cause and message.  I will never lose faith in Michael, and I want him to know that I am behind him with all my heart and soul.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: DS365 on January 15, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
yep! all with you!! just wish others can stop their selfishness of wanting Michael back... and yes there is something else bigger than we might of not imagined... keep it up MJalive999!!  :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: jboccia on January 15, 2010, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!

Well said.
Real FAITH is something you feel in your heart, not in the mind. Listen to your heart and make it so pure as to be ready to listen and understand. L.O.V.E. means trust in someone even when you don't understand him, even and especially when you can't see him or talk with him, just TRUST. Is not  something romantic, not cry or tear the hair, is believing and fighting alongside someone, with the same heart, the same convinction.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: dmovie27 on January 15, 2010, 04:23:41 PM
Well, that's actually the reason I think he had to do the hoax. Because of the ignorant people who can't control themselves and are selfish. This is the state of the world right now everywhere. Complete and utter greed and selfishness. Michael couldn't do the concerts because of YOU...the people need to check themselves!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: grayshki on January 15, 2010, 04:30:28 PM
I've stopped searching for proof that he's alive a long time ago. I don't need any further proof, it's right in front of our eyes. My focus has been on truly understanding his messages. And sharing it with others. I would love it with all my heart that he return soon, but I understand  that it is not the priority. Awareness and working on making positive changes IS...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Believe 777 on January 15, 2010, 04:57:41 PM
This is brilliant to see people truly feeling Michael's message and opening their eyes. We are starting to take personal responsibility for our ourselves and our world. This has been a very personal journey for each of us and now it feels like the light is really starting to shine. I feel that Michael needs to have the pressure eased off of him a bit and we are now starting to do this for him. He has been working so hard for so long, and all for us. I can just see the relief in his face when he sees posts like these. People are now really seeing more than Michael alone, we are seeing what he has been trying to show us. The truth... :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: je on January 15, 2010, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: "jboccia"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!

Well said.
Real FAITH is something you feel in your heart, not in the mind. Listen to your heart and make it so pure as to be ready to listen and understand. L.O.V.E. means trust in someone even when you don't understand him, even and especially when you can't see him or talk with him, just TRUST. Is not something romantic, not cry or tear the hair, is believing and fighting alongside someone, with the same heart, the same convinction.

i agree..absolutely...100%
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Aintnosunshine on January 15, 2010, 05:20:49 PM
Yess, finding out what really happened on June 25th and later on, that`s what we are here for.

And why - and who pulled the strings. Quite rational points, I guess.

Believing and keeping the faith might be helpful but it`s no end in itself. Therefore, there is no reason to lose common sense and intelligent mind ...  TAKE CARE!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 15, 2010, 05:26:56 PM
Thank you Lord!  I am 100% with this.  I just need to know that he is okay.  If and whether he comes back is not what my search is about.  It's about how he loved us and gave us all of him.  I owe him my faith and belief that his departure was what HE HAD to do. And if he never comes back again to sing or dance or what ever, just knowing that he is at peace and happy and not in harm's way would be enough for me to live the rest of my life fulfilled and contented.  I just have to know that he is indeed okay, and so until then, I must continue to search the clues in the hope of recovering the answers.  Michael, I love you more.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 15, 2010, 05:32:09 PM
Quote from: "grayshki"
I've stopped searching for proof that he's alive a long time ago. I don't need any further proof, it's right in front of our eyes. My focus has been on truly understanding his messages. And sharing it with others. I would love it with all my heart that he return soon, but I understand  that it is not the priority. Awareness and working on making positive changes IS...


Totaly agree with you, I  dont need further proof he is alive, it is a true "feeling" I have had for a long time,  I do have faith all will be revealed as soon as the time is right, in order to proceed to the next stage of the plan when all will be revealed, we have been lead along the path we will soon be seeing the "light" at the end of the road.  

"Can you feel it"?  I can!

 :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on January 15, 2010, 05:32:54 PM
I agree with you and like you it's been a long time now that I want to know the WHY of all this ? We know he's alive and we don't know for sure about a return so let's focus on the reasons of the hoax which have not been researched enough yet.
The TIAI redirects are worth to be studied because there are many evidences that shows us that things are getting bad and bad everyday and Michael was well placed to know it. Evil people are working hard to make this world in a mess so let's do our job to stop them. Being aware is the first step.

God Bless You All
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: misha86 on January 15, 2010, 05:56:08 PM
I agree...but unfortunately its only a few of us that do....so like I stated in dec mike ain't cumn back,its a lost cause....how disapointing for him...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: jackeline on January 15, 2010, 06:02:22 PM
He is alive and he is coming sooon.... and we all need to know the reason of why he did this. whatever the reason is, we should understand . For me, it doesn't matter when he is going to comeback,  The most important here is that he is ok and safe.

People keep the faith...


We love you Michael Jackson
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: teensy on January 15, 2010, 06:05:27 PM
I want Michael to comeback. I really do.

I do understand the point of your message and I agree. It is important to learn Why, since we already Know he is alive. It's like being at different stages of understanding. If you can't see that he is alive, how can you wrap your head around why he would do it? If you know he is alive, it's time to expand your view and see the bigger picture.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: KacyLovesMJ on January 15, 2010, 06:15:20 PM
I do agree that finding out why he did this is important. But with that said, I think a lot of people are just starting to feel like they are going crazy and just want him to come back and explain it instead of having all these theories as to why he would do it and not knowing which one is the correct one, if any.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mattie on January 15, 2010, 06:28:13 PM
I have problems to expres myself in English..but i try!

We need MJ to come back now!
I think i understand his message..and i did do a lot of things to make other people aware.I tried,i really tried.
They dont want to listen..they make fun of you.
A vieuw start to think..but the rest??
They need the big bam from MJ.. to come to reality with a shock..than i can tell them more..than they maby listen?
But we need MJ..and i think the time is right now..i dont need to be more aware..my eyes are wide open!!!
Mattie
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: LucyLocket on January 15, 2010, 06:43:48 PM
Well-said, MJalive999!  I agree with you 100%!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: lovemj on January 15, 2010, 06:45:37 PM
i personaly never have believed michael hoaxed his death for a comeback or to clear his debts i,ve allways believed he,s done it for a much bigger reason and i do think most people on here are starting to open their eyes to why but yes i am being selfish wanting him to come back but all i realy want is to know that he is safe ad happy and out of harms way  :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: thecheetoman2004 on January 15, 2010, 06:51:38 PM
When I saw the post titled "BAM! HE IS 'BACK'" I thought he had returned or something lol

But I agree, we need to think about WHY he did it. Not WHEN he will return. He'll return on his own time.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: KingofPop4ever on January 15, 2010, 06:52:22 PM
Yeah I agree. People are so worried about when he will be back...that they are missing the point.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Minamai on January 15, 2010, 06:57:41 PM
Estoy de acuerdo, sin importar la fecha de regreso que importa es lo que nos está mostrando, y que están tratando de quitar la máscara de gran alcance para que lo veamos.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Minamai on January 15, 2010, 06:58:24 PM
I agree no matter the return date that matters is what is showing us, and who are trying to remove the mask powerful for us to see.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: neverlandprincess on January 15, 2010, 07:00:22 PM
I am definantly all for the "why" of the situation...what could drive someone to take this type of action. Some days I'm afraid to know and some days I think maybe we arent supposed to know. I know one thing though,Michaels' fans are unique. We have always shown up for him and fought for the truth where he was concerned. We have always went to great lengths to find out the hows and whys of every situation to promote the facts above the media hype we were being sold. That wouldnt be any differant now,and I believe with all my heart that he knew that/ He knew we would look,he knew we wouldnt rest until the truth was told. If he were dead we would owe it to him,as always,to bring to the light what really happened,and if he is alive,then we owe it to find out what would make him do this.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mattie on January 15, 2010, 07:03:46 PM
Quote from: "YouAreMyLifeMJ"
Yeah I agree. People are so worried about when he will be back...that they are missing the point.

No not worried..or missing the point!
If we are not aware now..wen will we be?
But what is the wait about now?? more clues,video's?
I can scream as loud as i can..people(nonbelievers) dont listen.
We need a powerfull person now(MJ..the big bam) to help us further!
A leader to go from here!

Hope you understand what i am trying to say?  English is not my language(Netherlands)
Mattie
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mehere on January 15, 2010, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
How many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift of God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!

I can assure you.  I AM AWAKE AND AWARE AND HAVEN'T LOST A DROP OF FAITH.
Alive?  ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!
A gift?  Perhaps.
From God?  Maybe.
Haven't seen him walk on water though.  
Let's not forget he is a human being as well.
With flaws.
We are all imperfect.
Right you are 999.  Now we find out the WHY to all of this and the purpose.
Will he return?  I will answer that with a question.
Has he ever left?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Minamai on January 15, 2010, 07:29:58 PM
:D NEVER
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: superflysister81 on January 15, 2010, 07:31:57 PM
I totally agree with you, MJalive999.

I read TIAI, more carefully ....
TIAI gives us a specific message. We all believers know Michael is alive. This is not the point.
I think it's up to us a real  comeback. At first sight, we all have hoped in a real comeback this month(we were so happy and excited, me too!!!)  but TS didn't say this.
On January 17th it will be MLK Day...Marthin Luther spread a message of freedom, don't forget it :"In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom ...”
And remember MJ's TDRCAU...This is very important, IMO...both the song itself and the only reharsal played by the media.
We have to open our eyes and accept the truth to understand the purpose of the hoax...Faking one's death is not a joke, it's something serious..
Michael will come back in his own time, but we have to understand his message first , we have to be aware of it and give him our support.

We joined the army of L.O.V.E. , let's make that change!  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Gemma Rose on January 15, 2010, 07:39:06 PM
I never post, and when i do it's incredibly rare. I was reading around and came to this post and all i want to say is, MJALIVE YOU ARE A GENIOUS, THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, THE REASON IS BIGGER THAN ANY WOULD IMAGINE. BRACEYOURSELVES FOR WHAT'S ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Minamai on January 15, 2010, 07:39:23 PM
creo que los que mueven los hilos han pasado tantos años atrás, a lo largo de la carrera de Michael. : twisted:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Minamai on January 15, 2010, 07:40:11 PM
believe that those who pull the strings have been so many years ago, along Michael's career. :evil:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Minamai on January 15, 2010, 07:45:33 PM
the same wires that move the banking, politics, the media ..
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJalive999 on January 15, 2010, 08:28:33 PM
Quote from: "mehere"
Haven't seen him walk on water though.  
Let's not forget he is a human being as well.

i said he is A GIFT from god, NOT jesus!
PLS, no jokes and do not put words in my mouth.
People with Gold Heart don't need walk on water to be recognized as special and with an important mission on Earth.
Some thinks you do not see; you just feel.(not everyone, of course)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjisthemuses on January 15, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
what i have been knowing, could be anything that i don't understand yet

On June 26th 2009 (am in new zealand so am one day ahead, in the USA should be June 25th), when i heard that news, one thing that came in my mind is this is not true, either it was a misunderstanding news or Michael was playing with the media. Never once in that moment came to my mind and said that he indeed passed.....and time went by, looking for the news, browsed the internet, and found the old MJHD.
I was starting telling people that he is alive, they didn't trust me, and told me that i just wasting my time. Among (let say) 50 people that i talked to about Michael is still alive, just 1 who trusted me (my husband), the others, they just laughed at me.

I never thought about his come back at that moment, because the most important thing at that time is finding proof that he is still alive. I have no one who support me about this, so I don't care. After following all the clues, watching every video, movies, reading then combining everything, I got my conclusion that I'm not wrong, so on some stages that i felt to stop looking for clues that he is still alive, because he is.

I came to the situation to find out why he did this and didn't find out when he is coming back or is he coming back. My husband keep telling me that he is alive but he never come back, because he said to me that Michael needs his own normal live, he needs freedom & peace. He said if I love Michael, I never try to think or pushing him to come back. So it's what I have been doing. So I just continue to find out why he did this, I think until now I just know that there is a reason, there is a background. I know what it is, but I can't really say in words, because I'm sure that what I have been knowing, could be anything that i don't understand yet. I'm not a smart or clever person, so to be honest, I can't really understand the details behind the reason. But i assure you that I know the reason. I know how people treat him, I know what people said about him, I know his painful, I know his heart, I know at the end this is about our life and our world, not just for himself, I know he has been trying and trying, and I know he never stop to try to save this planet, I know we need to help and save each other, I know it's all about these.....

So i tell to myself everyday....." before you change this world, you have to be a girl in the mirror first"

So @Mjalive999, really appreciate your post, this is a good one (sometime we talk on twitter, am the one with the name createdbymuses)

to tell you what am doing now is not changing the world, but I see myself, who I am and :

- not judging other people
- appreciate other people more
- not to be materialistic
- sending love to as many as people I know and meet
- responsible for everything that i have done
- telling the truth even it's painful
- just take with the big heart if people bashing me, never bashed them back (really hard of course)
- try to forgive people
- no swearing, no angry, etc
- find love and peace, no harm
- say love and hug to people
- etc

I hope by doing this kind of things, one day I will understand why he is doing this............and I will......

 :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Gina Jackson on January 15, 2010, 09:13:09 PM
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BAM! HE IS "BACK" - You know I BELIEVE! You made me believe & wait for him & I'm grateful & L.O.V.E. you!
Your words are correct & I agree...He knows we support him, and come back as soon as safe...He is very strong & knows the best moment...
I'm here together you ever loving our KING! (He is very important to us!)
THIS IS IT - BAM!
IT'S ALL FOR L.O.V.E. & the best is yet to come...
"...In my anguish and my pain
Through my joy and my sorrow
In the promise of another tomorrow
I'll never let you part
For you're always in my heart"
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: lilwendy on January 15, 2010, 09:20:01 PM
Yes yes yes yes yes shout it from the mountain top!!!! Awesome post!!!!!! I am jumping up and down! Yes it makes me sick when I tell people that MJ is alive and they ask me "so this is all a publicity stunt?" *rolling my eyes*. However guys don't get frustrated and keep the faith and do not grow weary in spreading the message.  Please.  If you need strength, allow us to encourage you...  Allow us to pray for you.  Please remember that the mind is powerful and so is prayer. Control your thoughts. Do not allow doubt to creep in.  Pray pray pray for strength, pray for eachother, and pray for MJ.  What an incredible honor to carry out a mission such as this and what a weight of responsibility he must be feeling.  Guys imagine... God places you in a position to affect the ENTIRE WORLD. MJ is human.  He needs our prayers to stay in God's will. Ok I'm rambling... Thank you for this very needed post!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on January 15, 2010, 09:23:13 PM
I believe that there is only one human being on this earth who can bring billions of people together to heal the world.  This person is, of course, Michael Jackson.  When he "died" the world stopped breathing, no other news was important, strangers hugged each other, cried on each other's shoulders, and stood together in disbelief.  Michael has carried this message with him for years, produced and sang songs about it, and I believe, he truly believed that his message would be heard.  But, it wasn't.  His loyal fans could hear it but still, we couldn't make that change, the powerful change that could change the world.  But, if and when Michael returns, I believe this time the world will listen.  And, when we do, we will find out the reasons that Michael hoaxed his death.

Thanks for your post and insight MJalive999!  

Peace and L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: darkchild on January 15, 2010, 09:47:59 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
How many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!
Amen, MJalive999! The reason is why I keep on searching of why MJ did it!  It is a matter of faith to keep on going. I believe MJ is still alive!  This song  by MJ keeps me going:

"On The Line"

No sense pretending its over
Hard times just don't go away
You gotta take that chip off your shoulder
It's time you open up
Have some faith

Nothing good ever comes easy
All good things come in due time
Yes it does
You gotta have something to believe in
I'm telling you to open mind

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
Gotta put it all on the line

You see yourself in the mirror
And you don't like what you see
And things aren't getting much clearer
Don't you think it's time you go for a change

Don't waste your time on the past, no, no
It's time you look to the future
It's all right there if you ask
This time if you try much harder
You'll be the best that could can be

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right

If you wanna do it now
You gotta learn to try
You can make it right somehow
Let love come free
And that's just so easy now
You gotta go for what you want
You gotta do what you got to do

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP3YZ6S5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP3YZ6S5z4I&feature=related)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: DeaCarvalho on January 15, 2010, 10:06:58 PM
Please, believers! Now clap your hands for this awesomesauce girl!
My dear, I think absolutely that way. We all already notice what's about and we know just what to do, but I feel  and see so many guessings, so many complaints!
Please, it's time to believe his reasons and stand by him! Let's show him we're all here supporting, so he can feel secure.

Please focus on MJ's message. This is far more important than a date.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 15, 2010, 10:09:29 PM
Quote from: "DeaCarvalho"
Please, believers! Now clap your hands for this awesomesauce girl!
My dear, I think absolutely that way. We all already notice what's about and we know just what to do, but I feel  and see so many guessings, so many complaints!
Please, it's time to believe his reasons and stand by him! Let's show him we're all here supporting, so he can feel secure.

Please focus on MJ's message. This is far more important than a date.

AMEN!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: cawobeth on January 15, 2010, 10:40:17 PM
well said mjlover999, believe777 & je and all- -
I never even liked the word hoax,,,though know what the definition of hoax is- the word demeans what Michael has done. I don't need any more videos either and Michael, I never though I'd ever say this, but I've had it w/the internet tributes also.
I don't understand why more people aren't standing up for his innocence instead of blah, bla, blah.......
Sooooo, what's w/the 2 new videos on the news page here ? I don't play head games; don't have time ! this isn't a F'in game. Yeah, right Michael wanted a "normal" life. Michael's no fool. He knows that there's no such thing- only relativity & comparisons. Normal; give me a break.Like Michael doesn't realize who he is in the world & going to try to be something other. I do believe he wants respect & privacy; a lot less hullabaloo when he travels & his children to be safe.
And I hope that he's missing out on some of this BS when he looks around. Ugh! More gossiping & bickering & ego trips. I'll just chalk this crap off to people's frustration &  sub-conscious uncertainty about him and reaction to the turbulence in the world.
I have a strong sense about Michael's reasons, but I don't discuss that, I write & draw about this. It for Michael to say. And anyway, wasn't TII clear enough ?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: cawobeth on January 15, 2010, 10:41:35 PM
Amen Dee !!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Lizziebee on January 15, 2010, 10:46:46 PM
Quote
Amen, MJalive999! The reason is why I keep on searching of why MJ did it!  It is a matter of faith to keep on going. I believe MJ is still alive!  This song  by MJ keeps me going:

"On The Line"

No sense pretending its over
Hard times just don't go away
You gotta take that chip off your shoulder
It's time you open up
Have some faith

Nothing good ever comes easy
All good things come in due time
Yes it does
You gotta have something to believe in
I'm telling you to open mind

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
Gotta put it all on the line

You see yourself in the mirror
And you don't like what you see
And things aren't getting much clearer
Don't you think it's time you go for a change

Don't waste your time on the past, no, no
It's time you look to the future
It's all right there if you ask
This time if you try much harder
You'll be the best that could can be

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right

If you wanna do it now
You gotta learn to try
You can make it right somehow
Let love come free
And that's just so easy now
You gotta go for what you want
You gotta do what you got to do

Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right
You've got to reach out and try
Gotta put your heart on the line
If you wanna make it right


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP3YZ6S5 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP3YZ6S5z4I&feature=related)

Definitely, this song is very motivating and inspirational. I've put my heart on the line. <3

Thank you MJalive999. It is crucial that people get the message...what this was all about. And I hope and pray that people are more willing to listen now. They've heard it...but have not LISTENED.
At the same time though, I understand the excited reaction of a "return." We all want to KNOW he's okay. But you know what? I think Michael has given us enough clues that say he's alright.  :) He needs us now more than ever. It's about the bigger message. We must get ready.  
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjfan4ever on January 15, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
Michael !, If your are reading this forum ..Please know I don't wont you to come back if your in danger .. I don't wont you to come back and just have to leave again ..I don't think I could go through lossing you again .. So I guess what I'm tring to say is , if you need to stay gone .. then I will learn to live with that ..I'LL MISS YOU 4 EVER  but I'll get be ..some how ! But you being Happy and safe is more important ..
                      So you do what's best for you and don't think of anyone elses needs .. or better yet wonts ! we will be fine in time .. Michael all I ask is let us know some how that you are safe and still with us ever once and awhile .. you send a message to your fans we will get it .. and we'll let the rest of the world keep thinking your gone .. lol!
                       We do LOVE you with all of our being !! PLease be happy where ever you are .. I'll keep you and your children in my prayers.
                                May God be with you on your journey , and keep you ..
                                             L.O.V.E. LORI
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: terror2k9 on January 15, 2010, 11:55:39 PM
I agree with this completly which is why i stopped searching for months,my belief is that his message is in his songs. I think we were lead to captain eo for a purpose when disney opened it back up.look at the lyrics for "another part of me"we own our government they dont own us.
We're takin' over
we have the truth
this is our mission
to see it through

Don't point your finger
not dangerous
this is our planet
you're one of us

We're sendin' out our
major love
and this is our
message to you
(message to you)
the planets are linin' up
we're bringin' brighter days
they're all in line
waitin' for you

You're just another
part of me..

A brother nation
fulfill the truth
the final message
we're bringin' you
[ Find more Lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.org/bqL (http://mp3lyrics.org/bqL) ]
there is no danger
feel the truth
so come together
good will is true

We're sendin' out our
major love
and this is our
message to you
(message to you)
the planets are linin' up
we're bringin' brighter days
they're all in line
waitin' for you

You're just another
part of me..

We're sendin' out our
major love
and this is our
message to you
(message to you)
the planets are linin' up
we're bringin' brighter days
they're all in line
waitin' for you
can't you see.. . ?
you're just
another part of me
another part of me..

We're takin' over
this is my plan, baby
another part of me
we need to take our rights back before its too late!
No need to search for him he said best "let me breath in my own time! when the time is right lets all back him and take back our rights!he said it for a long time,may be hard to believe it,but his words say it all!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: eleni.g on January 16, 2010, 12:01:09 AM
Very well said MJalive999,very well!!!I agree
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MyMindseye on January 16, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
I have been a believer pretty much since the begining that for Michael to go to this extreme and self sacrifice to deliver this awakening to the world starting with those most dedicated to him and his messege his army sadly some of his fans in life still wont entertain the thought of him being alive and his mission I for one have tried to convince other MJ fans to re search but most just like to attack what they dont agree with and sadly are missing out on being a part of history in the making.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 2 Bad on January 16, 2010, 12:36:24 AM
I just wanted to say that I have been steadfast in my belief that he is alive. All along I have been sifting all the info and coming up with so many lies and fantasies.
I think many are growing tired, they need to get stronger, faith in something you believe with all your heart comes natural. Or it should.
Mainly I think all his songs are about a "message", some have more than just one message. Some can be directly related to what is going on in your life and be an incredible inspiration. This is working for me in my situation, I get my strength to continue from MJ.
I don't care when, when he's ready is best. He holds the cards. But a reason would be good. I'm sure it will be a good reason. A confirmation that he is safe would be good. No comeback is needed if the answers to those two questions are met. But it's entirely up to MJ.
I am sure a lot of people are confused and rightly so with some of the info out there, it also makes them crazy, padded rooms are popping up everywhere! Myself I have run from the jacket of many buckles a few times  8-)
The "On the line" song plays every day at my house!!
All I know is I keep saying "Simmer". Lord knows I am one the most patient people I know!
I feel like he has so much more to do and we are included!
 I'll be there for you Michael, always with LOVE.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: jeannette boodram on January 16, 2010, 01:40:56 AM
hi,mjalive999 i agree with you peopel have to start opening there eyes,michael is alive i am proud of him he will comeback when he is ready i am from ny and i am speaking out to people and in school about this sick world and they are listing to me so please have faith and believe i can not say anymore this is about michael and why he did it also this is very important to michael the 18 MLK and the 25 please understand the purpose of the hoax i know all ready why he did it i can not say anythink yet i am getting hurtful and hateful email i am doing this for michael i was born with a gift and yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss michael is comeingback soon very soon,my name is jeannette,but my middle name is casandra no not that cassandra i have been on mjhd since day one and i am happy to be here and read what you guys are writeing so please have faith and believe this about michael and the hoax and why he did it.is all for L.O.V.E.make the chance. :)  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: rayvyn on January 16, 2010, 02:15:49 AM
Well, call me selfish, because I want him back because I miss him, and there's a whole in humanity without him. Wanting him back because I miss him terribly is a "but". It's also an "and"-- I want him back because I miss him, AND I want to know why.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: KINGdom52 on January 16, 2010, 02:51:46 AM
@MJalive999 , thank you. That was a very needed post.
I'm 100% with all of you guys!
"When" is not the important here but "why".
WHY ON EARTH would someone do something so extreme as to fake his death ?
This is not something funny , you don't do it for no reason . You have to be in a desperate need to give a message . A VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE. To who ? To all people .
WHY ? Because all people have to WAKE UP! We're in danger !
But the only way to do it , is to come back and explain all these.Not to us.
WE KNOW YOU MICHAEL.To the rest of the world.

So, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, WE WILL BE TOO, MY SWEETHEART!!!

"I prefer to learn the cause of a thing than to be the king of Persia"
                                                                       Democritos
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: KAY083121 on January 16, 2010, 03:37:32 AM
It's about time someone said that.... Very well said...

We must keep the faith and we must believe...

I do believe he is alive and I believe he done this for a reason... Maybe to change the world and bring us together...


Well MJ you have done that... I have made so many freinds since this started... and as one we stand beside you in this, as one we love you and as one we believe in you...


God Bless You Michael... I love you from my soul...with everything I have inside me... I will always be there for you... and stand with you when the time comes...


LOVE KAY
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: francisca81 on January 16, 2010, 04:05:59 AM
i think that the why is very important indeed....
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Shout on January 16, 2010, 04:18:08 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
How many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!

I do not like how some members try the others to put down who just want Michael to come back. I am very shure that MJ fans always understood what Michael has talked about. I personaly do not need Michael Jackson who opens my eyes my private experiences are just enought for that. I am not stupid and I am not blind, Michael Jackson is not god. It will be not the guilt of people who want him to come back if he never returns it will be ONLY HIS decision! I think everyone should think what he wants (FREEDOM OF SPEECH)! So why do not let the people ask themselves when Michael will come back. Personaly I never believed in a comeback and will never do. Michael was tired of all this and if he is alive he will never put himselve again into this business which caused so much damage to him! So stopp to attack people who have other opinions. Michael Jackson will not return! This is the final curtain call..THIS IS IT! He will never come back again. This is my opinion about this all!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 16, 2010, 06:53:58 AM
Everytime I post something on this site, I always imagined that MJ would be reading this.  That's what inspires me to post.  He has such an important message for all of us.  Even after watching TII,  I knew he was sending me a message......we need to stand together, heal the world.....make it a better place"

"MAKE THAT CHANGE.......MAKE THAT CHANGE"  The earth is sick, it has a fever, and we only have four years before the damage is irreversible".  

That has to be the message in all of this.  We are many, loyal MJ fans, and together, he wants us believers to do something.  UNITED WE STAND.....We can work together to make a difference and spread the word.  Perhaps instead of trying to tell our friends that MJ is still alive, we should be telling then to try and change the world, to make it safer for all mankind.
Lets all make that change for MJ's sake, and for the future of our children, and our childrens children.  
That's what he is asking from us dedicated supporters.  
SO LETS HOLD HANDS AND SPREAD THE WORD AND EDUCATE OTHERS AROUND US.  

THAT'S HIS MESSAGE......AND IF HE HAD TO DO SOMETHING SO EXTREME LIKE THIS, THEN HE NEEDS OUR HELP TO CONTINUE HIS WORK....
THAT'S THE REAL REASON IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.  IT'S ALL FOR L.O.V.E
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Emily Hutjes on January 16, 2010, 07:06:05 AM
Michael Jackson has gone missing before for just a short while. This time he did not go missing; did not take a flight to some remote place and was spotted after a while. He faked death, had a memorial, was buried. THIS IS A NEW, UNIQUE AND VERY SERIOUS SCENARIO, that shocked and saddened millions everywhere. Until some very clever investigators discovered it was a hoax.
Does anyone really think he did that to teach us LOVE, to teach us about all wrongdoings and misery in this world? His songs have been very clear about what is wrong with this world, what needs to be changed socially etc. He did not leave us a big book in which was written exactly what the worldrulers are doing wrong everywhere. A book that even his so very young teenage fans could comprehend, because after all: those young fans are the future and they have to learn exactly what is wrong and what they can do to help whilst growing up. The fact he so suddenly faked his death tells me he himself and his children, were in serious trouble and not financially. What or who threatened him was of such utmost danger that he faked his death instead of go missing. He has not been sending any messages up till now, did not leave us a book with clear explanations.
If he had, it would mean he could never ever return because his true enemies will never fall asleep. He left behind clues about his faked death and that was all he could do. So I think he was forced to fake his death and those who forced him did not do a very thorough job and their mistakes were spotted by the investigators. Any idea how difficult it might be to let him return? How many people, also important people, will look like complete cheats and lunatics?! No, I think "BAM he is back", will only be possible when those who forced him into this hoax will allow it. But....i could be wrong.....I hope!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJJSmile on January 16, 2010, 07:38:43 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
How many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!

Well said MJalive999  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: DMC on January 16, 2010, 07:52:44 AM
yes U.U totally right!!!!! believers come on!!!!! show how much we want a better place =)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 16, 2010, 08:11:36 AM
I am one of those persons who sometimes almost lost faith. But having read this very carefully and reading it not only with my mind but BY HEART!, now I am back on trace! TS and all the others who posted here, thank you for that! It's true, we have to stop looking for the reasons IF, because I know he did. It's about WHY he did it! Everyday I start my day of thinking about his message and building my day around it. Even the smallest things we do in our daytime routines, will lead us to the way.

I am here and I am a proud member of Michael's army of L.O.V.E.!!

L.O.V.E. to you all!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjjglory on January 16, 2010, 09:55:15 AM
I don't speak english well  , i can't express my thoughts  right but  i'll try.  I think Michael's comeback  is planned  not like BAMsday ,  of course we all want him  to perform   again  and i think he will do it  for sure.
But  in  my opinion  concerts are not enough for our Michael . He's great, he's clever, he's smart. While preparing the TII  TOUR  he understood he's not forgotten all over the world  and  he  now is working on  a  huge entertainment project  ,it will be  quite another level  of the  entertainment industry  including  all modern high- tech achievements.  It will certainly  be a new , a higher level   for  all   singers, dancers ,showbizstars.
 
Hope you  understand what I mean ?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 16, 2010, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: "terror2k9"
I agree with this completly which is why i stopped searching for months,my belief is that his message is in his songs. I think we were lead to captain eo for a purpose when disney opened it back up.look at the lyrics for "another part of me"we own our government they dont own us.
We're takin' over
we have the truth
this is our mission
to see it through

Don't point your finger
not dangerous
this is our planet
you're one of us

We're sendin' out our
major love
and this is our
message to you
(message to you)
the planets are linin' up
we're bringin' brighter days
they're all in line
waitin' for you

You're just another
part of me..

A brother nation
fulfill the truth
the final message
we're bringin' you
[ Find more Lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.org/bqL (http://mp3lyrics.org/bqL) ]
there is no danger
feel the truth
so come together
good will is true

We're sendin' out our
major love
and this is our
message to you
(message to you)
the planets are linin' up
we're bringin' brighter days
they're all in line
waitin' for you

You're just another
part of me..

We're sendin' out our
major love
and this is our
message to you
(message to you)
the planets are linin' up
we're bringin' brighter days
they're all in line
waitin' for you
can't you see.. . ?
you're just
another part of me
another part of me..

We're takin' over
this is my plan, baby
another part of me
we need to take our rights back before its too late!
No need to search for him he said best "let me breath in my own time! when the time is right lets all back him and take back our rights!he said it for a long time,may be hard to believe it,but his words say it all!



ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD...... I totally agree.

We will stand together across the world and BACK HIM ALL THE WAY  ....   WE WILL RAISE OUR VOICE AS ONE  WE ARE THE WORLD  WE ARE THE CHILDREN!  

It really is ALL for L.O.V.E

 8-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mj[L] on January 16, 2010, 10:37:47 AM
I understand that we must learn WHY he had to do this hoax, but for everyone who are waiting for a comeback just as important? We want him to come back because we all miss him  :(  And when hes back we can THEN understand WHY he did it!  :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: ralu_michael on January 16, 2010, 01:23:36 PM
well no matter how smart you are I dont think you know why he did it... And I'm patiently waiting for him to tell us.. other people can't do this for him, I'm sorry. I know it's for us and saving the Planet but that's just the big picture.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CC on January 16, 2010, 02:10:23 PM
[quote="mjisthemuses""...]when i heard that news, one thing that came in my mind is this is not true..."
"...I was starting telling people that he is alive, they didn't trust me, and told me that i just wasting my time. Among (let say) 50 people that i talked to about Michael is still alive, just 1 who trusted me (my husband), the others, they just laughed at me..."

I never thought about his come back at that moment, because the most important thing at that time is finding proof that he is still alive. I have no one who support me about this, so I don't care. After following all the clues, watching every video, movies, reading then combining everything, I got my conclusion that I'm not wrong, so on some stages that i felt to stop looking for clues that he is still alive, because he is.

"...I came to the situation to find out why he did this and didn't find out when he is coming back or is he coming back...I just continue to find out why he did this, I think until now I just know that there is a reason, there is a background. I know what it is, but I can't really say in words, because I'm sure that what I have been knowing, could be anything that i don't understand yet. I'm not a smart or clever person, so to be honest, I can't really understand the details behind the reason. But i assure you that I know the reason. I know how people treat him, I know what people said about him, I know his painful, I know his heart, I know at the end this is about our life and our world, not just for himself, I know he has been trying and trying, and I know he never stop to try to save this planet, I know we need to help and save each other, I know it's all about these....."

So i tell to myself everyday....." before you change this world, you have to be a girl in the mirror first"

to tell you what am doing now is not changing the world, but I see myself, who I am and :

- not judging other people
- appreciate other people more
- not to be materialistic
- sending love to as many as people I know and meet
- responsible for everything that i have done
- telling the truth even it's painful
- just take with the big heart if people bashing me, never bashed them back (really hard of course)
- try to forgive people
- no swearing, no angry, etc
- find love and peace, no harm
- say love and hug to people
- etc

I hope by doing this kind of things, one day I will understand why he is doing this............and I will......

 :)[/quote]

Excellent post! ;)
i know what you mean, and i know what you feel!
same here...
we need a Bam! so maybe the people who laugh about my "crazy" theories starts to listen and see the big picture... we need the BAM! to MAKE THAT CHANGE!!!
PEOPLE STILL LAUGH ABOUT ME :cry:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: King_Michael on January 16, 2010, 02:16:04 PM
We love Michael Jackson we are the true fans, the other fanatics love Michael Jackson the king of pop and while we all love Michael for his music it's bigger then that keep the faith
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: rayvyn on January 16, 2010, 02:49:57 PM
As time passes, I wonder why Michael would want to come back to more of what he had in the past. You think the press was merciless to him before... unless he had a really good reason... and the reason better be more than "I was trying to teach something to you all."

To say Michael is trying to teach us something comes off condescending and makes it seem like he has a messiah complex. As one poster has all ready written, whether Michael returns or not, it is his decision. If there is something more sinister behind why he left, it may not be up to him if he returns. To say that his return depends on his fans, sets us all up for blame.

Sometimes I wonder if Michael is hiding in plain site, right up under our noses...

I think Michael did fake his death. I just find it hard to believe he did it as a teaching opportunity.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MashMike on January 16, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
THANK U MJAlive999 so much!u rock girl,i couldn't say it better,i really feel sick of the givin' up posts,if u are a believer u are a believer,i personally don't question him bein' alive any more,i know it for sure, i need no other proofs,now the only reason we're here is to try to understand what was the reason for the hoax,i really hate readin' posts like"what if he's really gone..." and things like that,we are a big family,we are here for Michael,his immense L.O.V.E. unites us all from all over the world,we have already reached to the truth-that he's definitely alive,now we are to find out why he had to hoax his death.Iwould like him to come back,it'll be a real magic,but as long he is ok and happy i need no more,as once i said my whole country believes that he's alive,whoever i meet,and speak about M.J.,he says that he's alive,my friends believe in it,my family believes in it.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: youaremysoulmate on January 16, 2010, 03:06:15 PM
I am 100% agree. Michael did this because he had to, I think it is a very important reason why he chose to do this. A person does not fake his own death without a very good reason. We must try to find out what happened, and why it happened. What could drive a person to do this, I believe this is serious. I think he wants to come back, but there are things we need to understand before his return.


Keep the faith  :!:  :!:

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Alexa_Jackson on January 16, 2010, 04:28:59 PM
I am soo sure that he did it for a very strong reason, and we should open our eyes for that and try to be kinder with one another, save our planet, care for each other, that is his main message, he is trying to improve this world by doing this, of course all of us want to see them again, I personally NEED to see him again, but the importance here is what are we doing to help him? we all need to construct a human chain to help each other, people are dying, this cold weathers make children suffer in the streets, we should be united, so that when he comes back he finds a better place, that is what he is trying to tell us since he was 5. That has always been his concern and main message to us all. So hoaxers encourage other to do good things for our planet, stop selfishness and open yourselves to love, we are the product of love and we should spread it everywhere, let the positive energies flow and transform our environment. I love you all, Michael you are always in my heart!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: jboccia on January 16, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
Guys, I think that everyone, really,  everyone of us, has  an important function, as long as we remain side by side without any kind of conflict. All together with a single heart but each one  with his voice and his way of being. Each of us is a fundamental part of a whole, each with its role, but all moved by a message that has filled our hearts. I’m not an MJ’s “fan”, I love his music, I’ve never believed to the media about him, but after the 26th of june, I’ve felt something really strong and deep, and I just  followed my heart.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Grenat on January 16, 2010, 06:21:53 PM
I think there is a really big reason for him to do it of course, and I want to know why , absolutely, but the thing is it's that it's really hard to even figure if he is still alive or not.
It's good to believe but you have to have something to support your belief , just believing alone doesn't mean it's true.
And the second really hard part is that , even tough we love him and want to understand him, we are not in his head, so it's difficult just with these clues to understand the whole thing.
So yeah people worry and seems to worry only about his comeback
but deep inside I'm sure everyone here want to listen to him,really.
For myself at least I want to know why he did it , but I also want him to comeback just to see that he is really fine,I'm worried , who know ?
What if we're being leaded to ? or if someone is covering for his murder ?
I wanna see him with my own eyes and see that he is fine and well.
Because I'm so worried after all.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Moni02100 on January 16, 2010, 10:29:11 PM
Well, most dicult CAN REALLY KNOW THE REASON FOR WHICH HE DID, INDEED WANT TO KNOW AND WANT able to understand, I found it difficult to build the puzzle, I KNOW THAT IS ALIVE, DO NOT LOSE FAITH REGARDING YOUR RETURN BUT I BELIEVE THAT RUNS TO LEAD THE REASON PRINCPAL, indicates he is alive, but be sure What was your reason would like slipping into YOUR HEAD AND IT IS NOT POSSIBLE, IS IT TRUE THAT YOU NO LONGER NEED SHOWS VIDEOS THAT IS ALIVE, NOW WE NEED NEW TRACKS TAKE TO DISCOVER THE REASON THAT I took to do all this and planning for so long and so carefully, wait for the translator to be functional and can UNDERSTAND MY MESSAGE, FORGIVENESS, DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: bubaliciousjlb on January 16, 2010, 11:36:54 PM
imo no matter how many clues, no matter how much faith, or how much you believe that michael is alive. in which i do have faith and believe. its the not knowing for sure. this is why people want to know when or if michael is coming back. im sure that we all know his message. even with all the video's and clues and theories we still have a lot of unanswered questions that no one but michael himself can answer. none of us are capable of reading his mind. and another reason is to prove not only to others but to ourselves as well that we are not insane. let me say that i have been a really big fan of michael's for over 35 yrs. and every since june 25 i  never believed that michael died. but every time i tell someone this i always get this look like i need to be in a padded cell somewhere. but i continue to keep the faith. so please try not to be so hard on the people who want michael to come back. maybe just maybe its to keep their own sanity.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: NEFFERTEAREYA on January 16, 2010, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: "bubaliciousjlb"
imo no matter how many clues, no matter how much faith, or how much you believe that michael is alive. in which i do have faith and believe. its the not knowing for sure. this is why people want to know when or if michael is coming back. im sure that we all know his message. even with all the video's and clues and theories we still have a lot of unanswered questions that no one but michael himself can answer. none of us are capable of reading his mind. and another reason is to prove not only to others but to ourselves as well that we are not insane. let me say that i have been a really big fan of michael's for over 35 yrs. and every since june 25 i  never believed that michael died. but every time i tell someone this i always get this look like i need to be in a padded cell somewhere. but i continue to keep the faith. so please try not to be so hard on the people who want michael to come back. maybe just maybe its to keep their own sanity.
In TII he had this really noticeable desperation in his voice when speaking about the planet  after he performed Earth Song. Michael has been telling us for years and years to love each other and to take care of the planet via his songs and poetry. I believe this to be the primary reason for the hoax.There could be other reasons,but I think Michael knew that this ,unfortunately,was the only way to grab people's attention. He tried so hard for so many years to almost no avail  :( . Well Michael,you finally got everyone's attention. We get it. We miss you. We love you!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mehere on January 17, 2010, 01:08:09 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "mehere"
Haven't seen him walk on water though.  
Let's not forget he is a human being as well.

i said he is A GIFT from god, NOT jesus!
PLS, no jokes and do not put words in my mouth.
People with Gold Heart don't need walk on water to be recognized as special and with an important mission on Earth.
Some thinks you do not see; you just feel.(not everyone, of course)

No jokes here.......
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Game Player on January 17, 2010, 04:55:31 AM
Haha, we already had enough evidence to prove he was alive back in June. IA we don't really need videos to prove he's alive but I love seeing the little details of the hoax.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 17, 2010, 06:29:16 AM
Quote from: "mjisthemuses"
I came to the situation to find out why he did this and didn't find out when he is coming back or is he coming back. My husband keep telling me that he is alive but he never come back, because he said to me that Michael needs his own normal live, he needs freedom & peace. He said if I love Michael, I never try to think or pushing him to come back. So it's what I have been doing. So I just continue to find out why he did this, I think until now I just know that there is a reason, there is a background. I know what it is, but I can't really say in words, because I'm sure that what I have been knowing, could be anything that i don't understand yet. I'm not a smart or clever person, so to be honest, I can't really understand the details behind the reason. But i assure you that I know the reason. I know how people treat him, I know what people said about him, I know his painful, I know his heart, I know at the end this is about our life and our world, not just for himself, I know he has been trying and trying, and I know he never stop to try to save this planet, I know we need to help and save each other, I know it's all about these.....

So i tell to myself everyday....." before you change this world, you have to be a girl in the mirror first"

So @Mjalive999, really appreciate your post, this is a good one (sometime we talk on twitter, am the one with the name createdbymuses)

to tell you what am doing now is not changing the world, but I see myself, who I am and :

- not judging other people
- appreciate other people more
- not to be materialistic
- sending love to as many as people I know and meet
- responsible for everything that i have done
- telling the truth even it's painful
- just take with the big heart if people bashing me, never bashed them back (really hard of course)
- try to forgive people
- no swearing, no angry, etc
- find love and peace, no harm
- say love and hug to people
- etc

I hope by doing this kind of things, one day I will understand why he is doing this............and I will......

 :)

I so agree with you! I try to keep this in my head as a new day starts. Sometimes it's easier said then done, but I will do my very best!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Cameron on January 17, 2010, 06:42:18 AM
When I saw the title of this thread, I felt crzy " omg what's this news, He's really back ?!!"
But it just an attractive title  :D

Nevertheless, I agree with the autor. And I say that I never lost the faith and that I'm interest in why he hoax his death  :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Grace on January 17, 2010, 06:44:52 AM
Quote from: "mehere"
Will he return?  I will answer that with a question.
Has he ever left?

Applause - standing ovations for this question!!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Grace on January 17, 2010, 07:04:58 AM
Quote from: "MyMindseye"
I have been a believer pretty much since the begining that for Michael to go to this extreme and self sacrifice to deliver this awakening to the world starting with those most dedicated to him and his messege his army sadly some of his fans in life still wont entertain the thought of him being alive and his mission I for one have tried to convince other MJ fans to re search but most just like to attack what they dont agree with and sadly are missing out on being a part of history in the making.

Michael does not want to see sad faces. He doesn't make a difference between believers and non-believers. He loves us all equally.

Remember what Michael said in TII:

"We will get to that."

Never give up. Cultivate faith within yourself. It will spread through your living to others, not by words. If words would have been convincing, mankind would not need to suffer anymore.
We have to fall on our knees each one of us to understand how to walk.

"We will get to that."

Spread the L.O.V.E. not fear nor sadness.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: kelly wright on January 17, 2010, 08:23:52 AM
Is it really appropriate for you to say if someone dose not believe the same thing you believe, to accuse them of not being a TRUE fan .I have been a MJ fan for more than 40 yrs . And I am still on the fence about what I believe or not believe .It is pretty immature & narrow minded of you to say that, print it, & think that way .I am sure that I was a fan before you were even born .I would be willing to bet on it . I would also be willing to bet that most people on this site were not fans until he died . I really enjoy SOME of the info on here and clearly ,if I or others were not fans it is unlikely we would take the time to even look at this site . Michael did not like narrow-minded people .It's like MJ racism or something ,like some folks {for example } don't believe in Jesus & some do ,so it I choose not to believe in Jesus that makes me less Faithful to GOD ? NOOO ! {and I am a Christian BTW} Stop causing DIVISION !!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 17, 2010, 08:24:55 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "mehere"
Will he return?  I will answer that with a question.
Has he ever left?

Applause - standing ovations for this question!!!!

I absolutely agree!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: LunaCielo on January 17, 2010, 08:57:37 AM
... I think that Michael points to "hear" his fans at 100% convinced of his innocence on the allegations outrageous that injured him personally and damaged his career, so as to restore the truth about his reputation, and also obtain officially everything, absolutely everything, that recognition of its foreignness to the facts that was missing after the acquittal of all the accusations.
We will take you a while back in memory, last November, when the TNZ among other things (http://www.myspace..com/truenewszone (http://www.myspace..com/truenewszone)) cited a poll:

"A survey of the New York Gallup Poll" shows that 48% of Americans is not d 'agree with' acquittal of pop star Michael Jackson and all charges for harassment, only 34% agree.
A clear majority, 62%, believe that Jackson's celebrity status was an important factor in the verdict.
Almost half said they were surprised by the verdict, and 24% described themselves as angry.
Exactly one in four said that it is still fans of the singer.
Many said they stopped being his fans.
This world did'nt gave him another chance 'to die. "

It 'a slice of reality, raw and naked.
The "negotiation",  paying the large sum of money, it was not  decided  by Michael that wanted to continue to go to court to prove his innocence, however.
In that decision was the assurance to win, and obviously the doubt has crept in people who have fallen in that.
Maybe it was a serious mistake not to have made clear, pointed. Or maybe it had to be.
E 'unpleasant to remember, but it's true.
Many fans abandoned him, and Michael was hurt further by  this posting .
I think now he strongly desires to restore once and for all, and so triumphant, the truth, "true" and finally heal this rift to first begin to live / live it finally with due respect and appreciation of his person and then choose ( I hope so, yes, his is a celestial music and only) return to perform for the love of his fans and the entire world.
I hope that January 18 is really a date that marks the beginning of "strong" of something, but if that does not happen, we must not give up and make us feel powerless: he knows what is right to do, especially for its time, for the overall success of this "operation".
And like all things that concern him, this time it will be spectacular.
To patience, to respect its decisions, to welcome the many clues and signs that left us not to sink into sadness darkest before the question of his "disappearance" is alive and alive, and that's what counts. All the rest will come when it will be the right time.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mordor on January 17, 2010, 09:19:14 AM
well said!!!!totaly agree!!thank u so much for waking ME up!!!I nearly forgot what was so importatnt to me on the beginning-the reason WHY he did all this...now I was just waiting and waiting...he ll be beck by the xmas,during xmas,january 18th,january 26...GOD!doesnt matter when,the question is why did he start to be dead!Im not going to wait for his return..we still have HIM!thats the reason why we can feel his present...why we still believe..he is here,with us...giving us clues and hope...teaching us ...love ya Mike!!!!and thank you again for your post!!  Lets find the reason WHY togetherl !! lol xxxxxxx
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJalive999 on January 17, 2010, 10:59:37 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "mehere"
Will he return?  I will answer that with a question.
Has he ever left?

Applause - standing ovations for this question!!!!

 u know what i mean!
for me... Nothing changed!  to be honest!
he was out of the media ... and still is. Just the  name changed, now he is '''dead'' '' or ''still dead'.

i don't understand when people says ''i miss him'' ... How can you miss something you've never had?
mainly, if are fan after MJ's 'death'. (but, ignore it! I'm not here to talk about feelings!)

And he will come back, btw!
maybe not tomorrow.. but he will!
He said it! I trust him!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mehere on January 17, 2010, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "mehere"
Will he return?  I will answer that with a question.
Has he ever left?

Applause - standing ovations for this question!!!!

 u know what i mean!
for me... Nothing changed!  to be honest!
he was out of the media ... and still is. Just the  name changed, now he is '''dead'' '' or ''still dead'.

i don't understand when people says ''i miss him'' ... How can you miss something you've never had?
mainly, if are fan after MJ's 'death'. (but, ignore it! I'm not here to talk about feelings!)

And he will come back, btw!
maybe not tomorrow.. but he will!
He said it! I trust him!

I know what you mean my friend.  We are all in this together.  I hope no offense taken.  It wasn't meant that way.
If nothing else we are here for the L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjwasat02 on January 17, 2010, 11:24:24 AM
Hi to all.
Whatever the reasons, I will support our MJ. In the early days I used to cry every day, :(  Then by chance I came across the Hoax theories. I still feel sad that things are the way they are,.....But I also have great faith now in the fine knowledge that MJ will return to us.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MyMindseye on January 17, 2010, 11:36:50 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "MyMindseye"
I have been a believer pretty much since the begining that for Michael to go to this extreme and self sacrifice to deliver this awakening to the world starting with those most dedicated to him and his messege his army sadly some of his fans in life still wont entertain the thought of him being alive and his mission I for one have tried to convince other MJ fans to re search but most just like to attack what they dont agree with and sadly are missing out on being a part of history in the making.

Michael does not want to see sad faces. He doesn't make a difference between believers and non-believers. He loves us all equally.

Remember what Michael said in TII:

"We will get to that."

Never give up. Cultivate faith within yourself. It will spread through your living to others, not by words. If words would have been convincing, mankind would not need to suffer anymore.
We have to fall on our knees each one of us to understand how to walk.

"We will get to that."

Spread the L.O.V.E. not fear nor sadness.


Who is spreading fear and sadness? I thnk you need to read my post again I did not say one fan is better than another nor did I say a believer is better than a non believer in Michaels eyes. I said I have been trying to convince those who still believe him dead to at least take a look at the clues and thinks about June 25 that dont add up and some people are doing the re search and are starting to believe so I am happy if I can help a few people who are devistated  by the loss of Michael become excited and hopeful then I am doing what Michael would want spreading L.O.V.E hope and his message. I said its sad as in it makes me sad that some are missing out because instead of the relief, excitement, amazement they are feeling , sad and empty without Michael and I never ever said one fan was better than the next just wanted to clear that up.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjfan4ever on January 17, 2010, 12:12:53 PM
Well , I have to say something and it may tick off a few people ..but I have always been know to speak my mine and I alway piss off people when I do but oh well here it goes ..
                                      I feel in my heart and always have that Michael is alive .. But then I think why would He do somethink like this ..it has to be bad .. He would have not done this just for attention  or to make money to get out of debt , I feel he had to do this to save his life and keep his kids safe ..  
                               If they are getting money from his life insurance and his social security I feel it's pretty much a done deal  , He is not coming back ..  :(  and I hate that from the bottom of my heart .. I have loved Michael from the start , but if  He did this to save His life or just to start a new life ..then I'm happy for him and I pray He is happier than He has ever been ..    
                            I pray that we are not just reading into something thats not here .. and the so call clues we see are just that CLUES , and He is letting us know He will be back ..  or maybe what He really is tring to tell us that He is alive , becouse He knows His fans would read into the clues ..to where everyone else wouldn't see it .. and those are the ones that say we need help ..lol!  
                              He may have never meant to lead us to beLIEve He would come back ..He just wonted us to know He was alive ..and We are the ones saying He is coming back!
                                    This is it .. it maybe all we will get just a clue once in a while ... if you think we really haven't gotten much in months .. just what we wont to see .. I feel He will sent clues from time to time .. but if he doesn't come back when everyone feels like he said he would then everyone will  evenually will give up and this sites will shut down and Michael will fade in the background ..
                              Which might be what Michael may wont us to let Him do .. just let Him go .. I know that sounds  like something we think we could never do ..I know it's hard for me to wrap my mine around .. but if He doesn't come back with in the next year or so then I really feel like He wont be back ever ..and we should just move on and let him live in peace ..
                                 I know that hurts so bad to say that but if He doesn't come back to us what else can we do .. we can't make him come back if he doesn't wont to .. just to make us happy .. I love him and respect His reasons for leaving ..even if I truly really don't know why he did..  
                                  I guess what I'm tring to say here is that if he doesn't come back when we think He should ..then don't give up on Michael ..He is still watching us on these forums ..
                            We should always come here and write him letter of love and let Him know He is always in our hearts ..and we miss him everyday .. but we wish Him much love and  Pray He is happy and at peace , We owe him that much ... for he has given us so much more of himself and his life which is partly why He is in this mess anyways..  
                                            Well I hope  yall don't bash me to much for this but ..just something we should all think about ..and possibility  we have to come to  terms with ...  
                                  Michael if you are really out there and reading this ..I care for you deeply and always will , I'll keep you music alive by jaming to it for the rest of my life .. But I have to say I would much rather have you  where we can see you  , on tv or magazines (WHICH I KNOW YOU HATE THAT )and I did too ..  but I would love to see it right now ..lol!
                                           At least we would know where you are and that you are still in out crazy ass world lol!! tring to deal with life with the rest of us ..
                                                 I pray your safe and happy , just wont you to know I support you all the way , and I'll defined your name anytime someone saids anything  nagative about you ! I know your a good man & loving Father . Everyone has made mistakes in there lives and why should you be any different ... don't worry about it .. people will judge you no matter what you do good  or bad I get that becouse I speak my mine alot (KEEPS ME IN TROUBLE ALOT )But I'm not 2 face and be to fake is not me ..I don't mean to be rude but I can't act one why and be another in your face ..you either like me for who I am or you just get out of my face leave me alone . When I love you I love you with all my heart and would die for you ..but you cross me or do me wrong behide my back I'm done with you and I write you off  , once your out you don't get back in ...so don't feel bad about anything you've done  in the past and the people you've pissed off .. Shit Happens lol! .. you're  more than likely better with out them in your life anyways .. That how I look at stuff like that when it happens to me ..  
                                               So if you come back to us that will be one of the happiest day in my life .. but if you choose to stay  "DEAD"  Then I guess I'll just have to learn to deal with it the best why I can . it wont be easy ..
                                            You will always be in my heart .. Don't you ever forget that !!  
                                                                        Lori  M.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 17, 2010, 12:55:53 PM
Lori: you moved me to tears, but so well said! I am proud of you and I uunderstand the way you feel! I think you are right! Thank you for your excellent message!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: angel on January 17, 2010, 01:44:32 PM
Quote from: "kelly wright"
Is it really appropriate for you to say if someone dose not believe the same thing you believe, to accuse them of not being a TRUE fan .I have been a MJ fan for more than 40 yrs . And I am still on the fence about what I believe or not believe .It is pretty immature & narrow minded of you to say that, print it, & think that way .I am sure that I was a fan before you were even born .I would be willing to bet on it . I would also be willing to bet that most people on this site were not fans until he died . I really enjoy SOME of the info on here and clearly ,if I or others were not fans it is unlikely we would take the time to even look at this site . Michael did not like narrow-minded people .It's like MJ racism or something ,like some folks {for example } don't believe in Jesus & some do ,so it I choose not to believe in Jesus that makes me less Faithful to GOD ? NOOO ! {and I am a Christian BTW} Stop causing DIVISION !!
Just curious....no offense, but doesn't CHRISTian = believer in CHRIST??
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CC on January 17, 2010, 01:59:45 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "mehere"
Will he return?  I will answer that with a question.
Has he ever left?

Applause - standing ovations for this question!!!!

100% agreed! ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: the arabian nights on January 17, 2010, 02:22:16 PM
Quote from: "kelly wright"
Is it really appropriate for you to say if someone dose not believe the same thing you believe, to accuse them of not being a TRUE fan .I have been a MJ fan for more than 40 yrs . And I am still on the fence about what I believe or not believe .It is pretty immature & narrow minded of you to say that, print it, & think that way .I am sure that I was a fan before you were even born .I would be willing to bet on it . I would also be willing to bet that most people on this site were not fans until he died . I really enjoy SOME of the info on here and clearly ,if I or others were not fans it is unlikely we would take the time to even look at this site . Michael did not like narrow-minded people .It's like MJ racism or something ,like some folks {for example } don't believe in Jesus & some do ,so it I choose not to believe in Jesus that makes me less Faithful to GOD ? NOOO ! {and I am a Christian BTW} Stop causing DIVISION !!

I agree with what you said, no one should critise other people on the site, it is division, there is enough of that around, it is unhelpful, and causes offence and hurt.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjfan4ever on January 17, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
"Kuki"]Lori: you moved me to tears, but so well said! I am proud of you and I uunderstand the way you feel! I think you are right! Thank you for your excellent message!
 
Thanks I just was having a moment .. sometimes I feel like I'm in this world all alone and the only one losing my mine missing and worrying about Michael ..I just wish I could fine some peace with all of this ..but if I tell  myself that He wont be coming back then all I can do is vent , becouse this pain I have in my heart wont ever stop .. not sure what to do with all this ... do you have any suggestion ??? I really need some right now ...  :( I added you as a friend I have a good feeling about you ..like I can trust you with my ups and downs . I hope  you don't mine that I did that . I'm here for you if you need to vent when all this gets the best of you too ..
                                      Hope you have a great day .. lori.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Grace on January 17, 2010, 04:57:22 PM
Quote from: "MyMindseye"
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "MyMindseye"
I have been a believer pretty much since the begining that for Michael to go to this extreme and self sacrifice to deliver this awakening to the world starting with those most dedicated to him and his messege his army sadly some of his fans in life still wont entertain the thought of him being alive and his mission I for one have tried to convince other MJ fans to re search but most just like to attack what they dont agree with and sadly are missing out on being a part of history in the making.

Michael does not want to see sad faces. He doesn't make a difference between believers and non-believers. He loves us all equally.

Remember what Michael said in TII:

"We will get to that."

Never give up. Cultivate faith within yourself. It will spread through your living to others, not by words. If words would have been convincing, mankind would not need to suffer anymore.
We have to fall on our knees each one of us to understand how to walk.

"We will get to that."

Spread the L.O.V.E. not fear nor sadness.


Who is spreading fear and sadness? I thnk you need to read my post again I did not say one fan is better than another nor did I say a believer is better than a non believer in Michaels eyes. I said I have been trying to convince those who still believe him dead to at least take a look at the clues and thinks about June 25 that dont add up and some people are doing the re search and are starting to believe so I am happy if I can help a few people who are devistated  by the loss of Michael become excited and hopeful then I am doing what Michael would want spreading L.O.V.E hope and his message. I said its sad as in it makes me sad that some are missing out because instead of the relief, excitement, amazement they are feeling , sad and empty without Michael and I never ever said one fan was better than the next just wanted to clear that up.

MyMindseye, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I think you are untertaking a wonderful task in helping others out.
I just wanted to get across that we don't need to be sad if we cannot convince some fans that Michael is alive and thus relieve them from their sorrow.
Sometimes crisis is healthy as we grow and we grow stronger. Sometimes crisis is even required when we have gone beyond borders and have to be called back.

"We will get to that." means we will get to the result in the end that is desirable, which way ever. It make take some extra time but that is not so important.

I did not want to put you personally in a direct context of "Spread the L.O.V.E. not fear nor sadness." I did not place the words well. I should have added that I see in many places (not with your post in particular but in many places) that fear or sadness are dominating posts. This is not necessary.
The sentence "Spread the L.O.V.E. not fear nor sadness." is meant more as a signiture (unfortunately there is a limit of characters in the signiture box so I cannot add it there.)

I apologize that I did not put the words right so that a misunderstanding occured.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJsoldestfan on January 17, 2010, 05:36:54 PM
My intuition is telling me that Michael is doing to the Media what they did to Michael, he's messing with them, and I totally love it. He's just waitng patiently "in the wings" as he used to as a kid and is intensely watching the whole thing, and laughing. Keep in mind this is 100% my opinion.

I will never lose the faith, just be patient just as Michael is.

Remember it's all for love, L.O.V.E.

Love U More!!   ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whisper on January 17, 2010, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: "MJsoldestfan"
My intuition is telling me that Michael is doing to the Media what they did to Michael, he's messing with them, and I totally love it. He's just waitng patiently "in the wings" as he used to as a kid and is intensely watching the whole thing, and laughing. Keep in mind this is 100% my opinion.

I will never lose the faith, just be patient just as Michael is.

Remember it's all for love, L.O.V.E.

Love U More!!   ;)

Yes , you may be right..It would been A very genius idea  :!:  :P
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: teardrop on January 18, 2010, 12:56:37 AM
I agree.
KEEP THE FAITH!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 18, 2010, 01:04:30 AM
Quote from: "mjfan4ever"
"Kuki"]Lori: you moved me to tears, but so well said! I am proud of you and I uunderstand the way you feel! I think you are right! Thank you for your excellent message!
 
Thanks I just was having a moment .. sometimes I feel like I'm in this world all alone and the only one losing my mine missing and worrying about Michael ..I just wish I could fine some peace with all of this ..but if I tell  myself that He wont be coming back then all I can do is vent , becouse this pain I have in my heart wont ever stop .. not sure what to do with all this ... do you have any suggestion ??? I really need some right now ...  :( I added you as a friend I have a good feeling about you ..like I can trust you with my ups and downs . I hope  you don't mine that I did that . I'm here for you if you need to vent when all this gets the best of you too ..
                                      Hope you have a great day .. lori.

I added you was well, I am here for you! L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: PureLove on January 18, 2010, 10:07:15 AM
I believe that all of the believers got his message. We've been investigating the whole thing for 7 months! It's a long time. Personally I don't expect him to go back to the stage. It's his choice. But I do want him to come back because I want to be sure that he's fine and healthy. Otherwise how are we going to be sure about it? And to me if he delays to come back more, he will start losing the support he has right now. Because people started to lose their faith, and their patience. They started to say that they don't believe in the hoax no more. They started to hurt each other. Accept it or not it is the truth. I will keep on supporting him but I'm not sure if it is the same for everyone else. We're having new fake informers, new weird theories everyday. Everyone is saying something different. Who are we going to trust and believe? Believe in ourselves? Really? What do we know for sure? NOTHING! It's just the theories. That's all we have! After giving clues and showed that he is alive, he can not leave us like this. I don't want to believe that Michael does it to us. And I NEVER believed that he did this to run away from the public. Some people say that he was tired of everything, I'm sorry but that's BS! He wasn't even in the spotlight lately. Why would he fake his death and run away now? He would have done it way before if that was his aim. If the issue is about the threats and if the threat issue is closed by FBI, why wouldn't he come back? Is he going to hide in the rest of his life? He has to come back to end this pain of us and answer all of our questions. And if he wasn't going to come back, I so wish that he never gave us the clues. Most importantly, before he gets back, I don't believe that we can focus on spreading his message because we're all focused on the investigation!So are we the army of L.O.V.E now? Let me tell you something; EVEN THE STRONGEST ARMY HAS NO POWER WITHOUT ITS LEADER! Because we're looking out and waiting for our leader still. Noone here can convince me that they're done with the investigation and they're only spreading Michael's message. Because I would ask them what they are doing on a hoax site still. No, we're all still on the investigation. We tell others about the NWO and illu. stuff but did we focus on that only? No, because it's impossible until he gets back.

I don't care if you say that "It's his choice. He doesn't need to come back" crap. Because you know that you want him to come back soon in your heart! So be honest and tell what your heart really says to you.

I'm sorry if it's harsh but this is what I think and feel. God bless Michael and all of the believers.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mformichael on January 18, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
G :) ood !Keep the faith in LOVE !
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mformichael on January 18, 2010, 11:21:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJF05vP ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJF05vPkXA&feature=channel)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Magic Tricks on January 18, 2010, 12:16:09 PM
Hi :)

Well i think that the why? he fake his dead is a very important question.. But i also think that  when is he coming back? is a important question as well.. Because if he doesnt come back, how can we know what is the message behind this?? And if he comes back and we have already discovered what is the message, then it wouldnt have any sense, right??

Please dont misunderstand me.. In my opinion both why? and when?/where? are equally important questions..  For both we need to patiently wait to know what are the answers..

ps. english is not my first language.. i hope you can understan what I want to say.. :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: kelly wright on January 18, 2010, 12:25:42 PM
I AM REALLY SICK OF U SAYING THAT ONLY "TRUE FANS" BELIEVE THE DEATH HOAX. I AM ON THE FENCE. AND AS I STATED PREVIOUSLY I HAVE BEEN A FAN FOR MORE THAN 40 YRS ! HOW ABOUT YOU ? WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THAT IT CAUSES DIVISION. A TRUE FAN IS ONE THAT WAS A FAN BEFORE HE DIED, A TRUE FAN IS ONE THAT REALLY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MICHAEL ,NOT ONE THAT IS TRYING TO GET VIEWS ON THEIR U-TUBE CHANNEL i TRULY WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BELOVED MICHEAL AND I THINK THAT EVERY AVENUE MUST BE LOOKED AT . SOME OF THESE U-TUBERS {I WON'T NAME  } ARE VERY NARROW MINDED THAT ONLY STICK TO ONE OUT COME LIKE IT IS NOT EVEN POSSIBLE THAT HE WAS MURDERED. TRY PROVING HE WAS MURDERED INSTEAD OF ONLY FOCUSING ON A HOAX THEORY . EVEN IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HE WAS MURDERED OR IS DEAD ,NO STONE SHOULD BE LEFT UNTURNED iT IS REALLY OFFENSIVE TO ME BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF FANS LIKE ME THAT WERE FANS PROBABLY BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN BORN THAT ARE DIEHARD FANS THAT HAVE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE WORLD TO GET JUST A GLIMPSE OF MICHEAL THAT THINK HE IS GONE, AND YOU ARE SAYING WE ARE NOT "TRUE FANs" HOW DARE YOU !i LIKE TO" eNTERTAIN "THE IDEA THAT MICHAEL IS STILL ALIVE ,BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER . STOP TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BAD BECAUSE THEY DON'T THINK THE SAME WAY YOU DO !!!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: paula-c on January 18, 2010, 12:46:07 PM
I always thought that this is a very serious matter, I do not think Michael has done this with the sole purpose of mocking the media,
Please read the link in post Police in Los Angeles and will see how Michael was chased by this for a decade, trying to implicated him in any crime. We know your life away that publishes the media, we know what sort of problems had Michael.  :geek:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: kelly wright on January 18, 2010, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: "angel"
Quote from: "kelly wright"
Is it really appropriate for you to say if someone dose not believe the same thing you believe, to accuse them of not being a TRUE fan .I have been a MJ fan for more than 40 yrs . And I am still on the fence about what I believe or not believe .It is pretty immature & narrow minded of you to say that, print it, & think that way .I am sure that I was a fan before you were even born .I would be willing to bet on it . I would also be willing to bet that most people on this site were not fans until he died . I really enjoy SOME of the info on here and clearly ,if I or others were not fans it is unlikely we would take the time to even look at this site . Michael did not like narrow-minded people .It's like MJ racism or something ,like some folks {for example } don't believe in Jesus & some do ,so it I choose not to believe in Jesus that makes me less Faithful to GOD ? NOOO ! {and I am a Christian BTW} Stop causing DIVISION !!
Just curious....no offense, but doesn't CHRISTian = believer in CHRIST??
Uh ,YEAH ! I don't understand the question Did u not read my post correctly .I don't understand what you r trying to say
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 18, 2010, 08:55:13 PM
Kelly - your heartache and pain ring so solid in your words.  I'm really sorry for your pain.  I have to admit - I'm one that falls into your label of "not a true fan".  I grew up with J5 and MJ music but listened to a different style of music for most of my adult life so I didn't follow him like most of you may have.  However, on June 25th I was totally heartbroken and I couldn't understand why. I've cried for months asking God why my heart is in so much pain. I have been on these websites trying to find the truth (good or bad), and through it all I've been learning the truth about Michael - who he really was and what he was about. Most of all, the boy that I loved as a child, the man that I had a healthy respect for, the man that drew me in whenever he performed on TV, the man that I always felt was unfairly targeted by media, the man that I thought was so misunderstood, was gone, and I felt a huge part of my childhood died with him.  I felt like I had abandoned him. No, I did abandon him in his deepest trials. Just like Madonna spoke of but I felt it before she spoke it. When he needed people to stand up for him I sat back and cursed the TV for their unfair judgment but didn't stand up for truth and justice. Through all of this I've learned that my love for Michael has always been there but I didn't appreciate what I had. Like a lot of our loved ones, we don't appreciate them until we no longer have them in our grasp. That is the way with Michael.  This has awakened something inside of me and I will no longer take for granted that tomorrow will be the same as today. I appreciate every day and I appreciate those around me, and I tell them so.  I speak out against cruel and unfair judgments placed on others, in love.  Michael has brought me on an adventure and I am grateful.  I hope he's alive because I'd love to tell him how much I care but if he is no longer here, we need to seek the truth. If he's gone he no longer has a voice and we need to be the voice for him. Together we will find out what happened to Michael. May God bring comfort and peace to your heart.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Ariel on January 18, 2010, 11:26:36 PM
Since the very beginning the question has been "Why" and what can I do to help MJ. No doubth that he has always been the ultimate thinker out of the box, very creative person, and a joker ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJEnjoyYourself on January 19, 2010, 07:04:38 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Kelly - your heartache and pain ring so solid in your words.  I'm really sorry for your pain.  I have to admit - I'm one that falls into your label of "not a true fan".  I grew up with J5 and MJ music but listened to a different style of music for most of my adult life so I didn't follow him like most of you may have.  However, on June 25th I was totally heartbroken and I couldn't understand why. I've cried for months asking God why my heart is in so much pain. I have been on these websites trying to find the truth (good or bad), and through it all I've been learning the truth about Michael - who he really was and what he was about. Most of all, the boy that I loved as a child, the man that I had a healthy respect for, the man that drew me in whenever he performed on TV, the man that I always felt was unfairly targeted by media, the man that I thought was so misunderstood, was gone, and I felt a huge part of my childhood died with him.  I felt like I had abandoned him. No, I did abandon him in his deepest trials. Just like Madonna spoke of but I felt it before she spoke it. When he needed people to stand up for him I sat back and cursed the TV for their unfair judgment but didn't stand up for truth and justice. Through all of this I've learned that my love for Michael has always been there but I didn't appreciate what I had. Like a lot of our loved ones, we don't appreciate them until we no longer have them in our grasp. That is the way with Michael.  This has awakened something inside of me and I will no longer take for granted that tomorrow will be the same as today. I appreciate every day and I appreciate those around me, and I tell them so.  I speak out against cruel and unfair judgments placed on others, in love.  Michael has brought me on an adventure and I am grateful.  I hope he's alive because I'd love to tell him how much I care but if he is no longer here, we need to seek the truth. If he's gone he no longer has a voice and we need to be the voice for him. Together we will find out what happened to Michael. May God bring comfort and peace to your heart.

I´m feel like you too
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Butterfly J on January 19, 2010, 07:17:29 AM
Quote from: "MJEnjoyYourself"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Kelly - your heartache and pain ring so solid in your words.  I'm really sorry for your pain.  I have to admit - I'm one that falls into your label of "not a true fan".  I grew up with J5 and MJ music but listened to a different style of music for most of my adult life so I didn't follow him like most of you may have.  However, on June 25th I was totally heartbroken and I couldn't understand why. I've cried for months asking God why my heart is in so much pain. I have been on these websites trying to find the truth (good or bad), and through it all I've been learning the truth about Michael - who he really was and what he was about. Most of all, the boy that I loved as a child, the man that I had a healthy respect for, the man that drew me in whenever he performed on TV, the man that I always felt was unfairly targeted by media, the man that I thought was so misunderstood, was gone, and I felt a huge part of my childhood died with him.  I felt like I had abandoned him. No, I did abandon him in his deepest trials. Just like Madonna spoke of but I felt it before she spoke it. When he needed people to stand up for him I sat back and cursed the TV for their unfair judgment but didn't stand up for truth and justice. Through all of this I've learned that my love for Michael has always been there but I didn't appreciate what I had. Like a lot of our loved ones, we don't appreciate them until we no longer have them in our grasp. That is the way with Michael.  This has awakened something inside of me and I will no longer take for granted that tomorrow will be the same as today. I appreciate every day and I appreciate those around me, and I tell them so.  I speak out against cruel and unfair judgments placed on others, in love.  Michael has brought me on an adventure and I am grateful.  I hope he's alive because I'd love to tell him how much I care but if he is no longer here, we need to seek the truth. If he's gone he no longer has a voice and we need to be the voice for him. Together we will find out what happened to Michael. May God bring comfort and peace to your heart.

I´m feel like you too

Exactly, me too.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 19, 2010, 07:25:46 AM
You really moved me to tears with this, wonderfull spoken!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJEnjoyYourself on January 19, 2010, 07:47:27 AM
Kuki, i love your signature! it´s make me feel UHHHHH
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 19, 2010, 07:53:34 AM
I know......  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kristi777 on January 19, 2010, 05:53:50 PM
I very much agree with also MJAlive999. The 'Why" is very important! It is much bigger than people realize. L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Ariel on January 19, 2010, 10:56:34 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Kelly - your heartache and pain ring so solid in your words.  I'm really sorry for your pain.  I have to admit - I'm one that falls into your label of "not a true fan".  I grew up with J5 and MJ music but listened to a different style of music for most of my adult life so I didn't follow him like most of you may have.  However, on June 25th I was totally heartbroken and I couldn't understand why. I've cried for months asking God why my heart is in so much pain. I have been on these websites trying to find the truth (good or bad), and through it all I've been learning the truth about Michael - who he really was and what he was about. Most of all, the boy that I loved as a child, the man that I had a healthy respect for, the man that drew me in whenever he performed on TV, the man that I always felt was unfairly targeted by media, the man that I thought was so misunderstood, was gone, and I felt a huge part of my childhood died with him.  I felt like I had abandoned him. No, I did abandon him in his deepest trials. Just like Madonna spoke of but I felt it before she spoke it. When he needed people to stand up for him I sat back and cursed the TV for their unfair judgment but didn't stand up for truth and justice. Through all of this I've learned that my love for Michael has always been there but I didn't appreciate what I had. Like a lot of our loved ones, we don't appreciate them until we no longer have them in our grasp. That is the way with Michael.  This has awakened something inside of me and I will no longer take for granted that tomorrow will be the same as today. I appreciate every day and I appreciate those around me, and I tell them so.  I speak out against cruel and unfair judgments placed on others, in love.  Michael has brought me on an adventure and I am grateful.  I hope he's alive because I'd love to tell him how much I care but if he is no longer here, we need to seek the truth. If he's gone he no longer has a voice and we need to be the voice for him. Together we will find out what happened to Michael. May God bring comfort and peace to your heart.

I felt that way many times, although I have not been "a not fan" for 40 years. I listened to all kind of music, but Michael has been a constant pesence on my playlists too. Sometimes I feel like I have abandoned him, but then I remember that I tried to write something nice to him in 2006 or 2007 and could not find a reliable address. I am not good at digging info, but this time I'll stick around to find out what happened and what I can do to help.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: above77 on January 20, 2010, 06:34:31 AM
thank you...that's what i'm try to say on you tube too...but it's too hard to make it understand...........................come on dear,pure,strenght,rare and precious pearl!....our love is totally with you.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kirsche on January 20, 2010, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: "MJEnjoyYourself"
Kuki, i love your signature! it´s make me feel UHHHHH



I totally agree!! Very  :oops:  :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 20, 2010, 02:05:12 PM
Well, in that case, let me post it again......  ;)

I keep myself in mind that I am in the picture as well, only not visible  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kirsche on January 20, 2010, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: "Kuki"
Well, in that case, let me post it again......  ;)

I keep myself in mind that I am in the picture as well, only not visible  :lol:  :lol:


:D Yeah me too. I'm the microphone  :lol:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 20, 2010, 02:22:27 PM
Everytime I watch it, my knees weaken....  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Malakye808 on January 21, 2010, 09:39:42 AM
I have never met or spoken to Michael Jackson or anyone who has.  

I beleive Michael Jackson hoaxed his death, maybe for a few reasons... Maybe to teach the media a lesson for one.. But more importantly it's all about Yin verses Yang..   Why do u think Michael wrote the songs: We are here to change the world.??? Hmmn?.. Or.. Another part of me.. or They dont care about us.. Cry.. We've had enough.. Money.. Shout.. What more can i give.. Too name just a few.. Which all have messages in them that teach us what he is trying to say.. I believe Mike has been on a mission of love for a long time.. That is why the media were against him.. To stop his mission.. and who's behind the media??

People HAVE been very 'Theatened' by Michael, if you wonder who??? listen to that song very carefully.. when they discovered his beautiful mission. They got scared because they new he could succeed.. They new he had the pull, And he could do it.. He had the masses. So that scared these people who are money and power hungry, and they did everything in there power to stop him, and possibly still are. But you and i as dedicated MJ Fans and soldiers of L.O.V.E won't allow it!!
 
I must recommend all you awesome MJ Fans read dancing the dream.. Really read it...
Understand what Michael is writing... He's really an amazingly beautiful soul.. Not just the BEST entertainer of all time.. Im sure you all agree with me ;)


So i beleive that Michael hoaxed his death to get people to see what is going on, so he can continue his mission.. of L.O.V.E
We all need to research and realise we need to support Mike on this mission.  Once we have done this and understand whats been said.. We need to inform others and spread Mike's word of L.O.V.E

Thats my take on why Michael hoaxed his death.. For L.O.V.E

written by Malakye808... A dedicated SOULdier of L.O.V.E
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: paula-c on January 21, 2010, 10:16:15 AM
Malakye808 wrote:  beleive Michael Jackson hoaxed his death, maybe for a few reasons... Maybe to teach the media a lesson for one.. But more importantly it's all about Yin verses Yang.. Why do u think Michael wrote the songs: We are here to change the world.??? Hmmn?.. Or.. Another part of me.. or They dont care about us.. Cry.. We've had enough.. Money.. Shout.. What more can i give.. Too name just a few.. Which all have messages in them that teach us what he is trying to say.. I believe Mike has been on a mission of love for a long time.. That is why the media were against him.. To stop his mission.. and who's behind the media??

Maybe you're right, the media owners are people with power and money, and I always thought that behind all those accusations of child abuse were among Other media owners :x
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 21, 2010, 11:12:36 AM
Malakye, that's is an excellent post! I agree with you!

L.O.V.E.!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 22, 2010, 07:09:25 AM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Kuki"
Well, in that case, let me post it again......  ;)

I keep myself in mind that I am in the picture as well, only not visible  :lol:  :lol:


:D Yeah me too. I'm the microphone  :lol:

  :lol:

I'll keep my comment to myself  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on January 22, 2010, 08:05:42 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Kuki"
Well, in that case, let me post it again......  ;)

I keep myself in mind that I am in the picture as well, only not visible  :lol:  :lol:


:D Yeah me too. I'm the microphone  :lol:

  :lol:

I'll keep my comment to myself  ;)

Yes please. Otherways Mo and Souza will lock this thread because of your naugthy thoughts....  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: cawobeth on January 23, 2010, 06:02:11 PM
I do believe that there is more than one reason...most of which is in TII...I sense other reasons intuitively. However, such reasons are for Michael & God to know and for us to find out if Michael cares to let us know.[attachment=0:3qf9i4no]screen- by Maria Zhirnova- 6380_1169898817520_1529465450_30454142_2644898_n copy.jpg[/attachment:3qf9i4no]
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Malakye808 on January 25, 2010, 04:45:54 AM
Thanks a lot Kuki, appreciate your comments! ;)

Much L.O.V.E to all... :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: IDK3MJ on January 25, 2010, 05:27:15 AM
I took a day off work today hoping MJ will come back today on Monday, so i could celebrate this date as my rebirth day...if this is not going to be today (7 months after his "death") i will wait...i've searched the reasons of his hoax-i did my job...but i am still thinking about the second meaning of it...and still finding new clues....but i am still hoping to see him soon...

i would like to explain why to so many people it is so important MJ return soon...they wait for it....they are not so selfish and egoistic as many of u think...imagine them as children who smell, see icecream and can't taste it...WE ALL LOVE MJ SO MUCH...and it is nothing wrong we so much need his come  back...

of course the date of big day is HIS choice, we can't change his plans, if we-BELIEVERS-SPEED HIM TO DO THAT...IT COMES FROM OUR HEARTS...IF U LOVE SOMEONE U WANT TO LOOK AT THIS PERSON ALL THE TIME...IT IS NATURAL....

OF COURSE MJ COME BACK WILL HELP THOSE BELIEVERS WHO SPREAD INFORMATION AND THEY MEET NON BELIEVERS STILL LOCKED UP IN THEIR MINDS (like my own sister, SHE IS TOO LAZY AND MATERIALISTIC TO LOOK FOR THE TRUTH)...but my dream of his coming back is not a rush....

MY FAITH GROWS AND GROWS...I BECAME MORE CONFIDENT WHO I AM AND WHY I CAME ON THIS PLANET,  I ALSO FOUND MY DESTINY...MY ROLE IN LIFE....BUT WHEN I SEE SO MANY PEOPLE "CLOSEMINDED" - I FEEL SCARED, SO MANY DUMP OF THEM...ONLY A PERSON LIKE MICHEAL CAN CHANGE THEM, I MEAN THOSE WHOSE HEARTS HAVE CHANGED INTO STONES..I BELIEVE ONLY THE HARDEST TO GET ROUND ARE LEFT, SO MJ RETURN WILL HELP TO DEAL WITH THEM...

THAT IS WHY WE ALL EXPECT MICHAEL'S RETURN SO MUCH AND I DON'T FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT...

MICHAEL-.....POLAND IS READY....IF U NEED MORE TIME...OK, WE WILL WAIT...........YVONNE
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Post by: mformichael on January 25, 2010, 06:26:42 AM
http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... ouncement/ (http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/congratulations-and-final-announcement/)
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Post by: the arabian nights on January 25, 2010, 06:43:22 AM
some people are here also because they find somethings that have happened, strange and what to discuss that with people who also have an interest in the subject.
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Post by: supermj4eva on January 25, 2010, 09:18:11 AM
i agree with yvone (sorry if i mis spelt that)
i really want mj to come back soon but its his choice and if he doesnt i will stll wait!
i love him so much and only he can change the world to make it become a better place!
i think we have all more or less got his message and taken it on board our personality and everyday lives
who will agree with me on that?
i myself feel more loving and giving towards others and truely care about their feelings. i now have a much more open mind about the media and highpowers and all of their lies, in a sense michael has made me wake up and see the bigger picture i will no longer slouch in front of a tv screen and just believe whatever is being told to me. what ever is being told to you is told to you for a reason! dont be niave! if you want to know something or find out the truth you've got to find out for yourself
Quote
just becuase its in print does'nt mean its the gospel
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Post by: IDK3MJ on January 26, 2010, 01:09:29 PM
I agree with u "supermj4eva ",
thank u for understanding,

we are all here to "MAKE THE CHANGE"-as MJ says,

Yvonne
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Post by: IDK3MJ on January 26, 2010, 03:12:40 PM
Quote from: "mformichael"
http://mjawakening.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/congratulations-and-final-announcement/

could u please tell us what was announced? i couldn't find any message in media: tv, internet....please..i didn't find it on www u gave....

Yvonne
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Post by: mformichael on January 27, 2010, 08:18:56 AM
THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH
January 25th, 2010

7 months ago we went to sleep. Today is the day we wake up.

Today is the day we stop beLIEving and we start beLOVEing.

There is a message that needs to be spread and the message is L.O.V.E.

For one man, 50 concerts were not enough. 500, 5000, 50000, 500000 wouldn’t have been enough.

So this is the day we stop being the audience and we become the show.

This is the day we become the choreographer, the backup dancers, the backup singers, the band, the crew, the stage manager, the lights, the music, the dance….

This is the day we become HIM

THIS IS IT. This is OUR show.

HE is inside each and every single one of us. Inspiring us, giving us his talents, sharing his L.O.V.E. so we can spread his message in every corner of this PLANET.

HE is the source. L.O.V.E. is the message. WE are the messengers. Let’s Stay United Now to SPREAD it around.

As for HIM? For the first time in his life, he is sitting back enjoying the show.

THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH
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Post by: lpadua11 on January 27, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
You are so right!  I know he is coming back already and don't really care about the date but the whole reason he did this!  I know that it will be profound and jaw dropping!  I am thinking it will be a lesson to the world about how the media does not investigate things enough to reveal the truth but only focus on the negative things because that is what sells!  The whole time we were being lied to but his true fans solved the mystery and put the truth out there for anyone who cared enough to seek it!
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Post by: IDK3MJ on January 30, 2010, 05:56:54 AM
[mformichael"]THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH
January 25th, 2010
7 months ago we went to sleep. Today is the day we wake up.
Today is the day we stop beLIEving and we start beLOVEing.
There is a message that needs to be spread and the message is L.O.V.E.

For one man, 50 concerts were not enough. 500, 5000, 50000, 500000 wouldn’t have been enough.

So this is the day we stop being the audience and we become the show.....
....... For the first time in his life, he is sitting back enjoying the show.

THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH"

thanks, that is what i thought, on 26.01.2010 dvd came on market...the show starts....the biggest concert on earth... :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P
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Post by: pamela on January 30, 2010, 10:47:01 AM
we are ready for our show, so let's go now and Michael, look at us, it will be formidable!!!!trust us like we trust in you!!!!
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Post by: agathi on January 31, 2010, 06:07:57 PM
i believe he could be alive...i so want to believe he had reasons to do this if i knew the reason i would be so happy and  relief...i love you Michael
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 03, 2010, 05:58:29 AM
The question is good, but I don't know the answer.
Why? How should I know why?! I can only try to guess.

HELP!
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 03, 2010, 06:10:16 AM
Earth Song video in TII looks so much like Pandora's forest in Avatar... makes me think maybe there is a connection and also makes me think of an answer
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Post by: kikic4me on February 03, 2010, 10:47:31 AM
Thanks for your comment about Avatar and Pandor's forest.  I thought the same when I saw the movie.  In the begining the leading man (sorry, I do not remember his name)  Tells someone  " I'm Bad"  I thought this was funny.  He said something else right after, that I DO NOT REMEMBER, BUT ALSO POINTED TO A MJ HINT.  THEN, THE FOREST, THE BULLDOZING OF THE TREE.  It seems to be connected to MJ.  Remember, MJ wanted to create movies like no one had ever seen.  Could HE be behind Avatar? No one has seen anything like it
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Post by: mformichael on February 03, 2010, 10:51:09 AM
yes..me too ...after Avatar !I saw the light like in Billie Jean...when they walking in the forest... :geek:
And i think in earth video from TII the little girl is Michael...because:umbrella ,bracelets ,whale on the shirt ,playing with monkey ,her name have 7 letters :Jasmine (7)Alveran(7)... :)
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Post by: MJ_Fan_For_40_yrs on February 03, 2010, 11:08:01 AM
I agree........

....I've seen a lot more Mel Gibson on TV lately.  "FREEDOM"   ;)


Quote from: "MJalive999"
and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!
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Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on February 07, 2010, 11:09:45 PM
this is it!!!
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Post by: michky on February 07, 2010, 11:25:59 PM
So we agree there was a death hoax. There are far too many coincidences and inconsistencies to refute it.
So what can we do?
Keep the message of MJ alive and growing.

Ecology, humanitarianism, love each other,listen to one another, look up to the children,
No more War,  Hug a Tree, don't discriminate. L>O>V>E

Thank you MJ
For all that you have done
and all that you continue to Be

x
Peace
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Post by: essenceofebony0to9 on February 08, 2010, 03:53:30 AM
It's about new adventures. Remember Mj always wanted to do better than 'thriller' he push his self very hard. Videos to short films to 3d, and Chris angel has got tohave something to do with this, you think? New movie, a battle, a death, then the comeback. Just a thought.
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Post by: gonia09 on February 08, 2010, 08:17:48 PM
Michael is alive and He come back.... I don't know when but i hope in this year..
I know he had important reason to hoaxed his death and i understand him..
I am waiting for him since 25 June..


L.O.V.E Michael I love u and u r my inspiration to do good things...
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Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 08, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: "jboccia"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!

Well said.
Real FAITH is something you feel in your heart, not in the mind. Listen to your heart and make it so pure as to be ready to listen and understand. L.O.V.E. means trust in someone even when you don't understand him, even and especially when you can't see him or talk with him, just TRUST. Is not  something romantic, not cry or tear the hair, is believing and fighting alongside someone, with the same heart, the same convinction.

Well said.  I learned the definition of faith another way.  It's the absence of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen.
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Post by: Renierob46 on February 09, 2010, 11:36:57 PM
Just like in the days of Christ, people did not believe.  I am not equating Michael with Christ but God does have his Prophets on earth to let his people know what is to come or what must be done.  There is something going on because when Michael's presence left this earth, everyone was feeling the sting of light missing and the earth seemed like a darker place.  It is great if he is alive---no harm came to him but more than that he is pointing us to the Messiah to get us ready for what is about to happen in the future.  For those who can see let them see, for those who can hear, let them hear.  There will always be people in darkness and who refuse to believe all the signs that are around them......there is nothing you can do about them......just keep praying and hoping that God opens up their minds.

Like in the days of Noah, people were unaware and going about their daily lives in blindness.  They refuse to believe what is set before them, and before you knew it the flood came.  There was no warning, at least the kind they could see.

Keep holding on, there is a greater purpose behind all of this---even if we don't know we have to trust in the Lord and lean not to our own understanding--acknowledge him in all our ways, and he will direct our path.  

Michael's life signified the light of God---and some of us still can't see it.
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Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on February 10, 2010, 10:49:54 AM
@R..rob46, Very good post, I agree. CHEERS!
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Post by: liegi on February 10, 2010, 03:57:28 PM
I agree. Great post. Nowadays there are no spiritual people we can look up to.
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Post by: Jacksonology on February 11, 2010, 02:30:16 AM
I agree 100% with you MJALIVE we need too look BEHIND the Hoax. The Evidence is there that HE IS ALIVE. i will have to read TIAI.  :geek:
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Post by: itzall4love on February 13, 2010, 01:03:29 AM
I think that we all know WHY Michael did this by now...at least I hope so. I often hear people say, "I would just like to know WHY he did this"...which is a fair question, at the same time, I believe that he has shown us WHY through TII and through his music and messages. If we spend our time just trying to find out "why", we will not be spending our time on what's really important and what's really needed to be done. This is why I say that it is time for us to act. People are suffering and dying by the day, by the minute, by the second, and it is important that we work together and put a stop to this. I know this may be easier said than done. At the same time, something as simple as spreading the truth amongst the many lies can make a huge difference. Helping people to open their eyes can go a long way and it still helps to achieve the mission that is ahead of us.

So all in all, MJalive999 is right, we need to wake up, but, we also need to do something about what we have discovered in attempts to make a change...for a better world, for all.
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Post by: CC on February 13, 2010, 10:13:58 AM
he sings in this is it:
JUST CALL MY NAME, AND I'LL BE THERE!!!

LOOK OVER YOUR SHOWLDER, HONEY!


maybe we have to call him, really show to the world that we need him back! we want MJ back! ;)
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Post by: zyla on February 13, 2010, 10:58:45 PM
I always knew he hoaxed his death for a much bigger reason...
And I trust in him. I trust his reasons and his decisions. But I'll always want him back. Idc if that sounds selfish, but I want him back. I miss him...seriously. I really miss him  :(
Even more than that, I just wanna know that he's ok. And happy. And safe. If I was sure than that, than i'd survive.
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Post by: CC on February 14, 2010, 08:57:57 PM
Quote from: "zyla"
I always knew he hoaxed his death for a much bigger reason...
And I trust in him. I trust his reasons and his decisions. But I'll always want him back. Idc if that sounds selfish, but I want him back. I miss him...seriously. I really miss him  :(
Even more than that, I just wanna know that he's ok. And happy. And safe. If I was sure than that, than i'd survive.

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN! I FEEL THE SAME! I DON´T NEED A COMEBACK, TO PERFORM, I NEED TO KNOW THAT HE IS HAPPY, SAFE, WITH THE KIDS... ENJOYING LIFE! JUST THAT I NEED... :cry:
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Post by: Kuki on February 15, 2010, 03:21:17 AM
I so agree with you all!
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Post by: MJEnjoyYourself on February 15, 2010, 06:25:37 AM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "zyla"
I always knew he hoaxed his death for a much bigger reason...
And I trust in him. I trust his reasons and his decisions. But I'll always want him back. Idc if that sounds selfish, but I want him back. I miss him...seriously. I really miss him  :(
Even more than that, I just wanna know that he's ok. And happy. And safe. If I was sure than that, than i'd survive.

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN! I FEEL THE SAME! I DON´T NEED A COMEBACK, TO PERFORM, I NEED TO KNOW THAT HE IS HAPPY, SAFE, WITH THE KIDS... ENJOYING LIFE! JUST THAT I NEED... :cry:

you have totally right! i need the same thing
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Post by: loma on February 16, 2010, 05:24:42 AM
One thing that scares me, is that if he is alive, hiding forever wouldn't work.
One day, some obnoxious, terrible hoaxer is going to hound him out into the public.
I don't want that to happen.  :cry:  But I know it'll happen if he decides to go into hiding.
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Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 16, 2010, 06:08:53 AM
Why he did this?
To change this world.
How can we help?
Spread LOVE.
Everything else will come naturally.

But we want him back and it's a normal reaction because

WE LOVE HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Post by: the arabian nights on February 16, 2010, 07:37:24 AM
Quote from: "loma"
One thing that scares me, is that if he is alive, hiding forever wouldn't work.
One day, some obnoxious, terrible hoaxer is going to hound him out into the public.
I don't want that to happen.  :cry:  But I know it'll happen if he decides to go into hiding.
isnt that us!
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Post by: loveratheart4mj on February 16, 2010, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: "mjfan4ever"
Well , I have to say something and it may tick off a few people ..but I have always been know to speak my mine and I allway piss off people when I do but oh well here it goes ..
                                      I feel in my heart and always have that Michael is alive .. But then I think why would He do somethink like this ..it has to be bad .. He would have not done this just for attention  or to make money to get out of debt , I feel he had to do this to save his life and keep his kids safe ..  
                               If they are getting money from his life insurance and his social security I feel it's pretty much a done deal  , He is not coming back ..  :(  and I hate that from the bottom of my heart .. I have loved Michael from the start , but if  He did this to save His life or just to start a new life ..then I'm happy for him and I pray He is happier than He has ever been ..    
                            I pray that we are not just reading into something thats not here .. and the so call clues we see are just that CLUES , and He is letting us know He will be back ..  or maybe what He really is tring to tell us that He is alive , becouse He knows His fans would read into the clues ..to where everyone else wouldn't see it .. and those are the ones that say we need help ..lol!  
                              He may have never meant to lead us to beLIEve He would come back ..He just wonted us to know He was alive ..and We are the ones saying He is coming back!
                                    This is it .. it maybe all we will get just a clue once in a while ... if you think we really haven't gotten much in months .. just what we wont to see .. I feel He will sent clues from time to time .. but if he doesn't come back when everyone feels like he said he would then everyone will  evenually will give up and this sites will shut down and Michael will fade in the background ..
                              Which might be what Michael my wont us to let Him do .. just let Him go .. I know that sounds  lilk something we think we could never do ..I know it's hard for me to wrap my mine around .. but if He doesn't come back with in the next year or so then I really feel like He wont be back ever ..and we should just move on and let him live in peace ..
                                 I know that hurts so bad to say that but if He doesn't come back to us what else can we do .. we can't make him come back if he doesn't wont to .. just to make us happy .. I love him and respect His reasons for leaving ..even if I truly really don't know why he did..  
                                  I guess what I'm tring to say here is that if he doesn't come back when we think He should ..then don't give up on Michael ..He is still watching us on these forums ..
                            We should always come here and write him letter of love and let Him know He is always in our hearts ..and we miss him everyday .. but we wish Him much love and  Pray He is happy and at peace , We owe him that much ... for he has given us so much more of himself and his life which is partly why He is in this mess anyways..  
                                            Well I hope  yall don't bash me to much for this but ..just something we should all think about ..and possibility  we have to come to  terms with ...  
                                  Michael if you are really out there and reading this ..I care for you deeply and always will , I'll keep you music alive by jaming to it for the rest of my life .. But I have to say I would much rather have you  where we can see you  , on tv or magazines (WHICH I KNOW YOU HATE THAT )and I did too ..  but I would love to see it right now ..lol!
                                           At least we would know where you are and that you are still in out crazy ass world lol!! tring to deal with life with the rest of us ..
                                                 I pray your safe and happy , just wont you to know I support you all the way , and I'll defined your name anytime someone saids anything  nagative about you ! I know your a good man & loving Father . Everyone has made mistakes in there lives and why should you be any different ... don't worry about it .. people will judge you no matter what you do good  or bad I get that becouse I speak my mine alot (KEEPS ME IN TROUBLE ALOT )But I'm not 2 face and be to fake is not me ..I don't mean to be rude but I can't act one why and be another in your face ..you either like me for who I am or you just get out of my face leave me alone . When I love you I love you with all my heart and would die for you ..but you cross me or do me wrong behide my back I'm done with you and I write you off  , once your out you don't get back in ...so don't feel bad about anything you've done  in the past and the people you've pissed off .. Shit Happens lol! .. you're  more than likely better with out them in your life anyways .. That how I look at stuff like that when it happens to me ..  
                                               So if you come back to us that will be one of the happiest day in my life .. but if you choose to stay  "DEAD"  Then I guess I'll just have to learn to deal with it the best why I can . it wont be easy ..
                                            You will always be in my heart .. Don't you ever forget that !!  
                                                                        Lori  M.



Lori when i read this post you wrote it was as if i had almost written it myself word for word. WOW. Its amazing how so many of us feel the same way about Michael. We would take bullets for him if we had too. Thats why i joined Michaels Army Of Love. He is so dear to me. I hope in my heart he comes back soon but i would be just fine just to know for sure that he is OK and HAPPY. Thank you for this post.

Sheryll W.
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Post by: Kirsche on February 16, 2010, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
I agree 100% with you MJALIVE we need too look BEHIND the Hoax. The Evidence is there that HE IS ALIVE. i will have to read TIAI.  :geek:


Who the hell is that person on the down right, with the apricot shirt on and the blonde hair?

I mean your Signature picture from WATW
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Post by: airieslady on February 16, 2010, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
I agree 100% with you MJALIVE we need too look BEHIND the Hoax. The Evidence is there that HE IS ALIVE. i will have to read TIAI.  :geek:


Who the hell is that person on the down right, with the apricot shirt on and the blonde hair?

I mean your Signature picture from WATW

That's one of the Beach Boys... :geek:
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Post by: Kirsche on February 17, 2010, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: "airieslady"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
I agree 100% with you MJALIVE we need too look BEHIND the Hoax. The Evidence is there that HE IS ALIVE. i will have to read TIAI.  :geek:


Who the hell is that person on the down right, with the apricot shirt on and the blonde hair?

I mean your Signature picture from WATW

That's one of the Beach Boys... :geek:

Ah okay thank you. It looked weird on that sig but in the video I've recognized him :)
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Post by: cawobeth on February 20, 2010, 12:07:14 AM
Mo, I too often feel the sad sometimes about this.
It is sad. We need more empathy in the world. Isn't it enough to consider how much Michael must miss his children ? Some people even plead with him to come back soom=n.
Won't people listen to what he said after the credits of TII ? not merely hear.
 
Michael lacked respect & needs it now. This is huge what he did.
He's worked very hard, for a long time & is so brave.  
Also, there's too little patience in this anxious culture.

Another thing that's hit me lately; all the speculation of the adventure.
Isn't that exactly what we don't care about w/media ?
I swear, Michael is brilliant though he couldn't have known much of what was to come when he  "passed-on". He passed-on all right, a little far ahead of some of us. Yet, this is not what he meant to do, even though he's led the way. He invited us to come along with him.

It''s so fascinating. I wish more people would just enjoy the ride of the adventure.

Granted, he stirs the imagination. Yet, we can theorize about what has been revealed void
of guessing. Ask questions out of imaginative thought with consideration of blatant facts.

To me it's plain to see that this has all to do with truth.,,and in essence, truth is love.
It's profound & reaches us deeply, in many ways and yet, it's really quite simple why.
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Post by: cawobeth on February 20, 2010, 12:13:39 AM
Mo, I too often feel the sad sometimes about this.
It is sad. We need more empathy in the world. Isn't it enough to consider how much Michael must miss his children ? Some people even plead with him to come back soon.
Won't people listen to what he said after the credits of TII ? not merely hear.

Michael lacked respect & needs it now. This is huge what he did.
He's worked very hard, for a long time & is so brave.
Also, there's too little patience in this anxious culture.

Another thing that's hit me lately; all the speculation of the adventure.
Isn't that exactly what we don't care about w/media ?
I swear, Michael is brilliant though he couldn't have known much of what was to come when he "passed-on". He passed-on all right, a little far ahead of some of us. Yet, this is not what he meant to do, even though he's led the way. He invited us to come along with him.

It''s so fascinating. I wish more people would just enjoy the ride of the adventure.

Granted, he stirs the imagination. Yet, we can theorize about what has been revealed void
of guessing. Ask questions out of imaginative thought with consideration of blatant facts.

To me it's plain to see that this has all to do with truth.,,and in essence, truth is love.
It's profound; beautiful & reaches us deeply, in many ways and yet, it's really quite simple. why.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: word on February 20, 2010, 09:11:29 AM
I'm still trying to understand why Michael would fake his own death.What would it be for him to regain or gain by doing this?Why would he leave his children to be raised by someone else even if it  is his mother,when he did such a wonderful job by himself? Michael loved to be our enterainer,but he loved his children more.If Michael ever in this life time came back,it won't be as the King of Pop,it will be as daddy,the King as Pop.Either way Michael's absecence by his own hand or someone else's still pains my heart  and makes me yearn for him.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Grace on February 20, 2010, 12:01:33 PM
Sometimes there are moments when parents do have to go for adult tasks - no matter if kids are there. To some events you cannot take your kids with, you have to let them go and do it alone.

In the end, he will have helped his kids far more by doing this than by staying with them.

It's like living in Alaska in a hut and a bear is aggressing your place.
Either you leave the hut and kill the bear or the bear will one day kill your kids.
Would you see an option to stay at home?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 9d9 on February 21, 2010, 05:48:03 PM
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie.  First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 21, 2010, 08:18:09 PM
8-) OK
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 21, 2010, 08:36:20 PM
Quote from: "9d9"
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie.  First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.

Not trying to be disrespectful, but what prompted you to check out this forum if you believe he's deceased? I'm just curious...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Rosemary Young on February 21, 2010, 09:56:48 PM
We should care about the world,this is also care about  Michael...
do it now?...
THE World will be a better place,Michael will come back soon... :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 22, 2010, 12:05:55 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Very well said MJAlive999, you took the words right out of my mouth.

This is what I have been telling people for weeks, yet lots of them don't care, and are only interested in Mike's return.  I'm very sad about this, and really don't understand why so many people don't want to look into the WHY'S of the hoaxed death of the man they say they love so much...  I'm truly sad...

these days there are many people who can hardly care for themselves... nevertheless still press on... CAUSE THE KIDS ARE PAYING ATTENTION!!!

before I knew about this site, this lil arabian or east indian by was in the supermarket afterschool with his mother who was pushing a baby stroller... he looked about 7 or 8... he was begging his mother to get him the Michael Jackson DVD... it was the cutest thing ever! my teens told me today, they either participate or everhear a MJ convo at least once a day... my son said EVERYBODY is talking about MJ... and the funny thing... kids love him, and they are scared of him!! I WAS LMAO!!! OKAY!!!

HE IS OFFICIALLY MORE GANGSTA THAN THESE RAPPERS!! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? ROTDF!!!  :lol:

P.S. today's kids do not watch the news... THEY ARE TECHNO HEADS!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: essenceofebony0to9 on February 22, 2010, 01:56:54 AM
All the singers were singing live and so was MJ, I think. Sound live to me.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: KINGdom52 on February 22, 2010, 02:00:42 AM
Quote from: "9d9"
by 9d9 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:48 pm
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie. First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him that he's in a better place. He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.

Just don't say that we didn't warn you ! 8-)

With LOVE :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 22, 2010, 02:13:22 AM
Quote from: "9d9"
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie.  First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.

first of all you should know that Liz taylor is the one who started the king of pop thing, actualy she called him "The King of pop, rock and soul" and the king of pop stuck!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: word on February 22, 2010, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: "9d9"
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie.  First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.

Bam! now thats what I'm talking about,someone who aint afraid to face reality,however it was Elizabeth Taylor who crowned him the King of Pop,Rock and Soul,I guess the King of Pop just stuck.She did it on the Soul Train Awards,when he was giving an award by Eddie Murphy.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on February 22, 2010, 02:17:51 PM
Yes, Liz Taylor gave him that title, he didnt do that to himself!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 50thstatebeliever on February 23, 2010, 04:01:53 AM
I noticed something which I don't think you pointed out...in the video clip, where MJ's sisters are walking down the aisle past that "blonde woman"...one of the sisters has her hand reaching out towards the "blonde woman"...it makes any skeptic wonder, there must be some importance in that "blonde woman" for a hand to be extending out to her, don't you think? Maybe this is another clue...that it IS MJ in that wig and disguise... :shock:
If the blonde woman was indeed a real woman with a real identity, she would have by now cleared it up by now and claimed identity. And don't you think Chris Tucker should also by now be saying who that woman friend was, that was sitting next to him and holding his  hand??? If it wasn't MJ?? Verrry strange..

BUT THEN I wonder, why in the world would MJ take the SLIGHTEST chance on being suspiciously viewed, or looked at, or found out...at his OWN memorial? It's a big big risk...Everyone's mind is on MJ at that time, all around ...why would he take a chance like that? THEN AGAIN I am brought to remember, MJ was not one to sit on the side lines comfy at home without risks...his life was all about chances, taking them, big gigantic ideas and almost impossible probabilities...he WOULD be one to take that scary risk and go in the MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING, even his own memorial...to watch... :roll:

For those who hate the ones who dwell on the theory of his being alive...please do not bash my post. I'm not trying to make anyone believe anything. I'm just expressing the balancing act in my head that is having a really difficult time letting go or holding on. Whatever anyone wants to believe is their right and I challenge no one. I am only expressing my thoughts.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TinkerBell_777 on February 23, 2010, 06:08:53 AM
Quote from: "Puff"
Well Said, MjAlive999!
We MUST understand the REAL purpose of this hoax! His message is very important for all of us! :arrow:

  We are all too concerned in finding out, through complicated mathematical formulas and mere suppositions, the exact date of Michael's return... Please do not get me wrong, I too want to see him back, with his amazing smile and incredible kindness, but he alone must choose his return. It is his BAM, his time to "breathe in", his mission to heal the world. Instead of trying to guess his comeback date and place, we must struggle to understand his message, much deeper than to a cognitive level. We should actually feel his inner battle, his painS and use all the clues he left behind (wonderfully revealed by MJalive999 - thank you!) in order to open our eyes to the truth and to start doing something about it. Please find a way to act, join a charity group, a volunteer program, help the people in need you encounter in your daily life, stop believing the media, think outside the box, use your skills in order to create - Art Is Resistence - and to tell the truth to the world, spread L.O.V.E and compassion, oppose manipulation, discrimination and mind control, keep the faith and beLIEve...
    Another possible resistence action would be to actually join politics and make a change from the inside, but at least here in Romania this sounds rather utopic and maybe even naive. This is why I think Michael chose to spread his message and his clues through art and artists ("Alice in Wonderland" with Johnny Depp will be really interesting also). And maybe we should act the same way, by using our abilities, of whatever nature they may be, in order to make the world a better place and to stop the evil. We can start expressing the truth and our beliefs through visual arts, music, dance, acting, writing, manufacturing, speech etc. In every single moment of our lives there is a piece of creation and self expression involved. Let us use it in order to spread Michael's message. We can start a worldwide movement of L.O.V.E and peace.
    So if you beLIEve and truly understand the meaning of all this, take action! There are great things going on in this forum, let's take the opportunity of us all gathering here (and not only here) and create a full strategy of action, that each and every one of us will adopt, implement and spread. This is the beginning...


Love,
Andy
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 23, 2010, 03:18:56 PM
Well said. I am already doing this since decades ...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MissG on February 23, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
For the ones who actually are in to organzations, charities and awared since long before MJ´s "death" is just a matter of finding what happened to him. Even continuing spreading the message and making others awared would not stop me ( i e) thinking if he would any day come back.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Aintnosunshine on February 23, 2010, 04:35:55 PM
Exactly.  It`s not  matter to become educated ...LOL... sorry. Believe it or not, some really are already ...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Angel Wynton on February 24, 2010, 10:53:06 AM
I'll think I find something :shock:

This is his, look at the date's

http://www.flickr.com/photos/michael_jackson_/
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Grace on February 24, 2010, 11:46:00 AM
Sorry but IMHO this is a brazilian fan. Do you think that Michael would upload a picture with this title?

[attachment=0:3j739s35]greenshot_2010-02-24_18-43-10.jpg[/attachment:3j739s35]

There are thousands of Michael Jacksons in the web. Sorry.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: sbrowne on February 25, 2010, 10:28:15 PM
I am not sure who and what Thome is I know that Michael was afraid of him, I think we all should investgate him throughly. None of this make sence first you see him coming out with Michael from a meeting and then you see this man as a Villian. I think Michael needs our help with putting these people
where they belong and to expose the truth. I think the truth is right infront of us. But we are not seeing it.
We should be I feel investigating everyone that was close to Michael since 93 and before. I fell that we have to go back before we can see the whole truth. The people who did this to him are the same people that are poisoning our music, schools,tv ect. I really do believe we have to go back to the begginnig and start hearing what Michael is telling us. I have been listenning to his music starting from off the wall to till now and also i have seen the wiz a few times and the more I listen the and watch the more information i get. I am constently ripping and analyzing everything he did and is doing now. It just a suggestion, but the people before I believe are the same people now that are still trying to destroy him and manipulate us at the same time. Try it, people, try going back, you might find what you seek and start acting on it and changing things. [YouTube][/YouTube]
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 25, 2010, 10:39:26 PM
Quote from: "TinkerBell_777"
Quote from: "Puff"
Well Said, MjAlive999!
We MUST understand the REAL purpose of this hoax! His message is very important for all of us! :arrow:

  We are all too concerned in finding out, through complicated mathematical formulas and mere suppositions, the exact date of Michael's return... Please do not get me wrong, I too want to see him back, with his amazing smile and incredible kindness, but he alone must choose his return. It is his BAM, his time to "breathe in", his mission to heal the world. Instead of trying to guess his comeback date and place, we must struggle to understand his message, much deeper than to a cognitive level. We should actually feel his inner battle, his painS and use all the clues he left behind (wonderfully revealed by MJalive999 - thank you!) in order to open our eyes to the truth and to start doing something about it. Please find a way to act, join a charity group, a volunteer program, help the people in need you encounter in your daily life, stop believing the media, think outside the box, use your skills in order to create - Art Is Resistence - and to tell the truth to the world, spread L.O.V.E and compassion, oppose manipulation, discrimination and mind control, keep the faith and beLIEve...
    Another possible resistence action would be to actually join politics and make a change from the inside, but at least here in Romania this sounds rather utopic and maybe even naive. This is why I think Michael chose to spread his message and his clues through art and artists ("Alice in Wonderland" with Johnny Depp will be really interesting also). And maybe we should act the same way, by using our abilities, of whatever nature they may be, in order to make the world a better place and to stop the evil. We can start expressing the truth and our beliefs through visual arts, music, dance, acting, writing, manufacturing, speech etc. In every single moment of our lives there is a piece of creation and self expression involved. Let us use it in order to spread Michael's message. We can start a worldwide movement of L.O.V.E and peace.
    So if you beLIEve and truly understand the meaning of all this, take action! There are great things going on in this forum, let's take the opportunity of us all gathering here (and not only here) and create a full strategy of action, that each and every one of us will adopt, implement and spread. This is the beginning...


Love,
Andy

I like your message. I feel sometime sad when I hear people say "he was such a singer, such a dancer, such a performer" Ok, that was wonderfull, but is it all you remember from Michael Jackson ? Didn't you LISTEN to what he said ?
There is one song that changed my life when I was 11, it's "Man in the mirror" it was such a strong MESSAGE. For me it was not a song. it was a message. The way he songs it, the way he moved, it's just a SCREAM to the world. I heard it. There has been other songs after, that i wrote himself,  but this one has always been special to me. It really opened my mind.

We really must DO something, even if it's only 1 hour in the week to HELP, to do something for a better place. Even if you only help one person, you make a better place for this person. Whatever you choose to do, just ACT. We all have to understand that we are our own tools to change this world. We must realise that some people won't dare to move unless they have an exemple. They just wait for a signal of changing, for an example to follow. Just BE this exemple. That's what Michael tried to do with us. We should now be his tools to change this world. I mean if everybody who read my post decides to get involved in something, don't think it would be the start of something ? If everybody who reads my post tells another person to act for a better place...
The most important is to feel concerned. That's not becaue we have problems that we shouldn't consider other people problems. Just look around you, and you will find that you can help building the world Michael dreamed about.

I am rescuing animals, and since Michael died I decided that I should DO something more important for this : so I created an organization, and I realised that many people where there, looking at what I was doing since years, and they came to me, saying they want to help. When I said "why didn't you come before ? they just answered they didn't dare, they thought we were alone. Now we have more and more people coming to us, willing to help. I just had to decide to be the leader of this. DO NOT fear to act. There will always be people to follow you. They just wait for leaders to make them move ! So be strong and act ! For those who are waiting, GO find people to help ! Aren't we Michael's army ? Michael's arm ? Michael's best hope ?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on February 26, 2010, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
Quote from: "TinkerBell_777"
We are all too concerned in finding out, through complicated mathematical formulas and mere suppositions, the exact date of Michael's return... Please do not get me wrong, I too want to see him back, with his amazing smile and incredible kindness, but he alone must choose his return. It is his BAM, his time to "breathe in", his mission to heal the world. Instead of trying to guess his comeback date and place, we must struggle to understand his message, much deeper than to a cognitive level. We should actually feel his inner battle, his painS and use all the clues he left behind (wonderfully revealed by MJalive999 - thank you!) in order to open our eyes to the truth and to start doing something about it. Please find a way to act, join a charity group, a volunteer program, help the people in need you encounter in your daily life, stop believing the media, think outside the box, use your skills in order to create - Art Is Resistence - and to tell the truth to the world, spread L.O.V.E and compassion, oppose manipulation, discrimination and mind control, keep the faith and beLIEve...
    Another possible resistence action would be to actually join politics and make a change from the inside, but at least here in Romania this sounds rather utopic and maybe even naive. This is why I think Michael chose to spread his message and his clues through art and artists ("Alice in Wonderland" with Johnny Depp will be really interesting also). And maybe we should act the same way, by using our abilities, of whatever nature they may be, in order to make the world a better place and to stop the evil. We can start expressing the truth and our beliefs through visual arts, music, dance, acting, writing, manufacturing, speech etc. In every single moment of our lives there is a piece of creation and self expression involved. Let us use it in order to spread Michael's message. We can start a worldwide movement of L.O.V.E and peace.
    So if you beLIEve and truly understand the meaning of all this, take action! There are great things going on in this forum, let's take the opportunity of us all gathering here (and not only here) and create a full strategy of action, that each and every one of us will adopt, implement and spread. This is the beginning...


Love,
Andy

I like your message. I feel sometime sad when I hear people say "he was such a singer, such a dancer, such a performer" Ok, that was wonderfull, but is it all you remember from Michael Jackson ? Didn't you LISTEN to what he said ?
There is one song that changed my life when I was 11, it's "Man in the mirror" it was such a strong MESSAGE. For me it was not a song. it was a message. The way he songs it, the way he moved, it's just a SCREAM to the world. I heard it. There has been other songs after, that i wrote himself,  but this one has always been special to me. It really opened my mind.

We really must DO something, even if it's only 1 hour in the week to HELP, to do something for a better place. Even if you only help one person, you make a better place for this person. Whatever you choose to do, just ACT. We all have to understand that we are our own tools to change this world. We must realise that some people won't dare to move unless they have an exemple. They just wait for a signal of changing, for an example to follow. Just BE this exemple. That's what Michael tried to do with us. We should now be his tools to change this world. I mean if everybody who read my post decides to get involved in something, don't think it would be the start of something ? If everybody who reads my post tells another person to act for a better place...
The most important is to feel concerned. That's not becaue we have problems that we shouldn't consider other people problems. Just look around you, and you will find that you can help building the world Michael dreamed about.

I am rescuing animals, and since Michael died I decided that I should DO something more important for this : so I created an organization, and I realised that many people where there, looking at what I was doing since years, and they came to me, saying they want to help. When I said "why didn't you come before ? they just answered they didn't dare, they thought we were alone. Now we have more and more people coming to us, willing to help. I just had to decide to be the leader of this. DO NOT fear to act. There will always be people to follow you. They just wait for leaders to make them move ! So be strong and act ! For those who are waiting, GO find people to help ! Aren't we Michael's army ? Michael's arm ? Michael's best hope ?

You both moved me to tears..... This Is It! This is his message! I keep MITM in my heart and in my head every day, trying to live up like it. And it even doesnt have to be something big, just as he sings: start with yourselves! Just a change of attidute towards everything around us, taking care of little things. All those little things together can make a big difference to the world!

I am so proud to be a member with you all of Michael's army of L.O.V.E.!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 50thstatebeliever on February 27, 2010, 01:59:05 AM
There is a song ~ a song that I have always felt reminded me of MJ...even if it isn't one of his songs...I'm sure you all know it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGvfjiaZ1oU&feature=related ("Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls)...
The lyrics just make me think of MJ...and I whenever I listen to this song, I can imagine him singing it...he is here~there~where ever you all are~some things in our world cannot be explained fully to all extent...and it is faith that bonds the believers to the things that cannot be seen - but can be felt...it is about an energy that exists between people, near and far - an energy that can only prove itself in time. I believe. And if my belief angers others, so let it be their negative energies that fill their souls...as for my soul ~ it fills with energy from faith that there is more to MJ than just his existance, his accomplishments, his disappearance from what we understand to be the "normal world" we exist in...he is in lyrics, not only his own lyrics, but lyrics all around us - as he was fond of all these that held meaning and depth, light, shadows, pulse...I believe. He sends his energy...and it transforms as faith within us...and he is there, somewhere - pleading for us to not give up hope...to believe.

"Iris" by the Goo Goo Dolls:

And I'd give up forever to touch you
Cause I know that you feel me somehow
You're the closest to heaven that I'll ever be
And I don't want to go home right now


And all I can taste is this moment
And all I can breathe is your life
Cause sooner or later it's over
I just don't want to miss you tonight


And I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am


And you can't fight the tears that ain't coming
Or the moment of truth in your lies
When everything seems like the movies
Yeah you bleed just to know your alive



And I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am


I don't want the world to see me
Cause I don't think that they'd understand
When everything's made to be broken
I just want you to know who I am

I just want you to know who I am
I just want you to know who I am
I just want you to know who I am
I just want you to know who I am
[/i][/b]
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on February 27, 2010, 03:00:47 AM
Amen to that!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Its her on February 27, 2010, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: "9d9"
If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.
Quote from: "9d9"
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie.  First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.


"Sweety", I don't think I like your condescending, abrasive tone, when speaking to hopeful, dedicated, actually THINKING, INVESTIGATING, consciousness raised, LEARNING people who are fans of MJ, and frankly it is actually predatory the way you to came HERE with your bullying, with all your facts incorrect, instead of READING here, first, ---AND to draw first blood from these lambs here, with your sharp jaded tongue.

If you are "as big a fan as you can get", you'd be ME  :D, and you are not.

You don't love him or you COULDN'T so easily let him go and wouldn't ask ME to.

I am going to assume that some event or news in your personal life upset you and you want to lash out at anyone who is happily hopeful and skipping along in life, so I'll just ask you to work that crap out at home, "dear", while I right some wrongs in your post, which haven't been addressed by others, so far:  

First, why are you so sure the autopsy report you saw belonged to ANY man, let alone MJ?? You cannot be so gullible AND so arrogantly "helpful". One of those traits is a lie.

Are you lying about believing the fake autopsy report? Are you in on this Hoax?  Or are you feigning being helpful to us poor ignorant self-deceived slobs, here, with your superior grasp of the "facts"??

@"...dragging his corpse around"... Makes me wonder WHY you would say these things here without reading here, first---what kind of agenda do you have in mind? If you had read anything here-even a little bit---you'd have to be intellectually, or

deliberately

blind to not SEE that he CANNOT be ANY which way dead.

Nor is he in some drugged up stupor or coma or ANYthing like that. He lives and breathes and thinks AND ACTS, AND LOVES us, AS WE SPEAK, NOW.

And don't even TRY it to say some tabloids DROVE him to drugs or even still alive, underground!

Only a sissy runs from the tongues of the ignorant. Michael Jackson isn't AFRAID of anything. What do you THINK all that crotch grabbing meant?? Silly girl, he's GOT ...your tabloids (and everybody else who would seek to manipulate and control him, and hold him down)!

I'm simply going to give you the benefit of the doubt---as long as I am able to---and take your cynicism, as a DARE from you to elevate your own dashed hopes about Michael, and remind you again, to READ with your heart and mind clear.

Hmmmm...someone "DRAGGING A CORPSE AROUND" would be someone who actually believes this: That one with such a SCINTILLATING GIFT, for the sheer happiness of strangers!!!,  as what has been supernaturally God placed, in the heart and stewardship of Michael Jackson, COULD just PRETEND to be dead--at ANY length, particularly for the rest of his life, so he can hide out from the world and do mediocre things in exile, instead of using his GIFT and exhausting it for the glory of God.

HE WILL DIE

and, yes, be the corpse for your dragging pleasure, if ANYONE, even he himself, endeavors to stifle the GIFT. He LOVES creating music. He LOVES working on this with other talents. He is SO good at this. He can't do this fake-dead, or in exile. HE MUST come back to the lime-light, however irregularly, for his LOVE. This is the only way so many of us CAN love him.

It will kill him if the only place he can sing any longer is in the shower, for the tile...

WHO REALLY loves him, here?

You sound as if even if I could PROVE to you that he LIVES, YOU'd PREFER to "just keep his messages alive in his music"  He can't keep his messages alive if he is not. You seem gleeful and focused on us doing it so he can stay away, and BE STILL. You already KNOW he's alive, don't you.

Do you work for Sony????????????????????????????????????????

WHY WOULD YOU TRY TO KEEP HIM DOWN???????????

NO.

YOU try to keep YOUR self alive in something you did yesterday, last month, 30 years ago, from your grave!!

LIFE is NOW. Living is TODAY.  If you don't breathe TODAY, you're dead, no matter HOW many millions of breaths you took years before!

I love to hear the way he breathes while he exhales a song into my heart. When this Hoax first came to be and I thought he was dead, I could NOT listen to his music. If he was no longer breathing on earth...

It died, too.

It just was too stark---the loss.

MY individual, PERSONAL loss.

[DON'T YOU DARE touch that---YOU can't, anyway.]

It makes a difference, it DOES, if you know you are listening to a live soul (however remote, the possiblities :lol: !) or a mummyfied bittersweet memory.

Is Michaelangelo alive?  NAW. A genius, he left some God-inspired  paintings, and shapely stonework, simply echoes of his vision. Interesting, but lifeLESS. And, incidentally, subject to destruction, and annihilation, themselves, with the creator/steward of them absent.

LIFE is animated. There is give and take, interaction, movement. If art SEEMS to touch you, after the artist is dead, it is because the LIFE inside YOUR beating heart reached out to IT.

It is NEVER that the paint and stone reached out and grabbed you. It CAN'T.

When Michael is dead, if I survive him, it will be ME reaching out to hear his voice.   To this date---even while he LIVES, NONE of his works have tapped me on the shoulder to engage ME. Some living person had to play them first.

And speaking of stone...everybody knows that Michael Jackson is the most famous man in the world. His fame is carved in stone, just as the Ten Commandments were.

It is part of who he--the soul inside--IS.  If you are resentful of his fame, go be "a fan" to some unknown starving artist.

It can't be undone!

Hiding out forever isn't even possible. You can't tell me he's "in a better place". You do not know what a sacrifice this has been for him to be "no one" for months. I don't think HE even knows this yet. This is worse than deceased. Forget about dragging him---he'll be the WALKING dead.

He is the EPITOME of FAME.

NO one may take his crown while he's alive---is THAT who put you up to this?  He is an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow. NO one need even THINK of shoving HIM aside---out of the limelight.

You said you could say so much more. Well, I'm glad you didn't, because NO one, especially LIVING MJ, needs to read drivel about comforting himself in "old age" by hiding away, SPEECHLESS. For EVER.

He has places to go, people to see and things to do, IN the Name of "Michael Jackson", with the anointing of FAVOR and influence that God gave HIM--it won't WORK as "Joe Nobody". How dare you attempt to mess with the plans of God.

He was 50 went he dropped out of sight. NOT 95. WAAAA, show me someone who LOVES growing old! Tell me something you didn't read someone say he said in print! Dropping off the map isn't going to reverse time...You make him sound so wimpy and defeated and nuts. He's not like that. How can you be a fan?

I KNOW you are either sent to ruin him, by using his own HOAX against him, or you are just talking out of your own personal fear or despair.   NO need to be hurtful to people here. You can't order people to abandon someone they love---how is it that you even THINK that is possible?  Is that what you do?  

Sorry for the :evil: rant.  

I would never mean to bash someone. Especially someone hurting. I somehow don't think you're actually mourning MJ at all, so... YOU'll survive.

You just hit the wrong nerve--I'll let him "rest in peace", when it's time.  

It's not. :cool:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on February 28, 2010, 01:54:22 AM
Its her......... well said!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: this1crazygirl on February 28, 2010, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: "Its her"
Quote from: "9d9"
If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.
Quote from: "9d9"
Are U serious? Do you really think that anyone who doesn't believe that MJ is alive is an MJ hater?

Couple things, sweetie.  First of all, I'm not hearing much about Michael in media anymore. I really think you're surfing web-sites and forums trying to find anyone who doesn't believe in the re-incarnation of M.J., and then calling them haters and non-believers. Believe me, I'm as big a fan as you can get, but I believe an autopsy report when I read one. You should too.

As far as the haters deciding between "King of Pop" and "Wacko" remember that he named himself the "King of Pop", not the media. Elvis was "King of Rock," James Brown, "Godfather of Soul" and Mike called himself "King of Pop" and it stuck, and he lived up to it.

I could say so much more, but, I'll close with this. If you really love him, then you should be happy for him  that he's in a better place.  He hated the thought of growing old, he said so, hence the Peter Pan and Neverland....also all the plastic surgery.

He's finally free. His messages are forever in his music. Keep them alive without dragging his corpse around. You people are the ones not letting him R.I.P.


"Sweety", I don't think I like your condescending, abrasive tone, when speaking to hopeful, dedicated, actually THINKING, INVESTIGATING, consciousness raised, LEARNING people who are fans of MJ, and frankly it is actually predatory the way you to came HERE with your bullying, with all your facts incorrect, instead of READING here, first, ---AND to draw first blood from these lambs here, with your sharp jaded tongue.

If you are "as big a fan as you can get", you'd be ME  :D, and you are not.

You don't love him or you COULDN'T so easily let him go and wouldn't ask ME to.

I am going to assume that some event or news in your personal life upset you and you want to lash out at anyone who is happily hopeful and skipping along in life, so I'll just ask you to work that crap out at home, "dear", while I right some wrongs in your post, which haven't been addressed by others, so far:  

First, why are you so sure the autopsy report you saw belonged to ANY man, let alone MJ?? You cannot be so gullible AND so arrogantly "helpful". One of those traits is a lie.

Are you lying about believing the fake autopsy report? Are you in on this Hoax?  Or are you feigning being helpful to us poor ignorant self-deceived slobs, here, with your superior grasp of the "facts"??

@"...dragging his corpse around"... Makes me wonder WHY you would say these things here without reading here, first---what kind of agenda do you have in mind? If you had read anything here-even a little bit---you'd have to be intellectually, or

deliberately

blind to not SEE that he CANNOT be ANY which way dead.

Nor is he in some drugged up stupor or coma or ANYthing like that. He lives and breathes and thinks AND ACTS, AND LOVES us, AS WE SPEAK, NOW.

And don't even TRY it to say some tabloids DROVE him to drugs or even still alive, underground!

Only a sissy runs from the tongues of the ignorant. Michael Jackson isn't AFRAID of anything. What do you THINK all that crotch grabbing meant?? Silly girl, he's GOT ...your tabloids (and everybody else who would seek to manipulate and control him, and hold him down)!

I'm simply going to give you the benefit of the doubt---as long as I am able to---and take your cynicism, as a DARE from you to elevate your own dashed hopes about Michael, and remind you again, to READ with your heart and mind clear.

Hmmmm...someone "DRAGGING A CORPSE AROUND" would be someone who actually believes this: That one with such a SCINTILLATING GIFT, for the sheer happiness of strangers!!!,  as what has been supernaturally God placed, in the heart and stewardship of Michael Jackson, COULD just PRETEND to be dead--at ANY length, particularly for the rest of his life, so he can hide out from the world and do mediocre things in exile, instead of using his GIFT and exhausting it for the glory of God.

HE WILL DIE

and, yes, be the corpse for your dragging pleasure, if ANYONE, even he himself, endeavors to stifle the GIFT. He LOVES creating music. He LOVES working on this with other talents. He is SO good at this. He can't do this fake-dead, or in exile. HE MUST come back to the lime-light, however irregularly, for his LOVE. This is the only way so many of us CAN love him.

It will kill him if the only place he can sing any longer is in the shower, for the tile...

WHO REALLY loves him, here?

You sound as if even if I could PROVE to you that he LIVES, YOU'd PREFER to "just keep his messages alive in his music"  He can't keep his messages alive if he is not. You seem gleeful and focused on us doing it so he can stay away, and BE STILL. You already KNOW he's alive, don't you.

Do you work for Sony????????????????????????????????????????

WHY WOULD YOU TRY TO KEEP HIM DOWN???????????

NO.

YOU try to keep YOUR self alive in something you did yesterday, last month, 30 years ago, from your grave!!

LIFE is NOW. Living is TODAY.  If you don't breathe TODAY, you're dead, no matter HOW many millions of breaths you took years before!

I love to hear the way he breathes while he exhales a song into my heart. When this Hoax first came to be and I thought he was dead, I could NOT listen to his music. If he was no longer breathing on earth...

It died, too.

It just was too stark---the loss.

MY individual, PERSONAL loss.

[DON'T YOU DARE touch that---YOU can't, anyway.]

It makes a difference, it DOES, if you know you are listening to a live soul (however remote, the possiblities :lol: !) or a mummyfied bittersweet memory.

Is Michaelangelo alive?  NAW. A genius, he left some God-inspired  paintings, and shapely stonework, simply echoes of his vision. Interesting, but lifeLESS. And, incidentally, subject to destruction, and annihilation, themselves, with the creator/steward of them absent.

LIFE is animated. There is give and take, interaction, movement. If art SEEMS to touch you, after the artist is dead, it is because the LIFE inside YOUR beating heart reached out to IT.

It is NEVER that the paint and stone reached out and grabbed you. It CAN'T.

When Michael is dead, if I survive him, it will be ME reaching out to hear his voice.   To this date---even while he LIVES, NONE of his works have tapped me on the shoulder to engage ME. Some living person had to play them first.

And speaking of stone...everybody knows that Michael Jackson is the most famous man in the world. His fame is carved in stone, just as the Ten Commandments were.

It is part of who he--the soul inside--IS.  If you are resentful of his fame, go be "a fan" to some unknown starving artist.

It can't be undone!

Hiding out forever isn't even possible. You can't tell me he's "in a better place". You do not know what a sacrifice this has been for him to be "no one" for months. I don't think HE even knows this yet. This is worse than deceased. Forget about dragging him---he'll be the WALKING dead.

He is the EPITOME of FAME.

NO one may take his crown while he's alive---is THAT who put you up to this?  He is an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow. NO one need even THINK of shoving HIM aside---out of the limelight.

You said you could say so much more. Well, I'm glad you didn't, because NO one, especially LIVING MJ, needs to read drivel about comforting himself in "old age" by hiding away, SPEECHLESS. For EVER.

He has places to go, people to see and things to do, IN the Name of "Michael Jackson", with the anointing of FAVOR and influence that God gave HIM--it won't WORK as "Joe Nobody". How dare you attempt to mess with the plans of God.

He was 50 went he dropped out of sight. NOT 95. WAAAA, show me someone who LOVES growing old! Tell me something you didn't read someone say he said in print! Dropping off the map isn't going to reverse time...You make him sound so wimpy and defeated and nuts. He's not like that. How can you be a fan?

I KNOW you are either sent to ruin him, by using his own HOAX against him, or you are just talking out of your own personal fear or despair.   NO need to be hurtful to people here. You can't order people to abandon someone they love---how is it that you even THINK that is possible?  Is that what you do?  

Sorry for the :evil: rant.  

I would never mean to bash someone. Especially someone hurting. I somehow don't think you're actually mourning MJ at all, so... YOU'll survive.

You just hit the wrong nerve--I'll let him "rest in peace", when it's time.  

It's not. :cool:


 :evil: YEAH!!!  :twisted: oops let me calm down LOL  :lol:  8-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whatyourheartsays on February 28, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
Eh ben la vache !  :lol: (sorry I don't have english words for that)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kuki on March 08, 2010, 02:18:53 AM
IMO it's no use waiting for ANY day he MIGHT come back. We dont know IF en WHEN he comes back, maybe he even wont! Does that give us the right to sit back and just watch? NO! We have to DO something! We are the soldiers now, we have to spread his message and live up to it. Not just by saying it, but by doing it! It's doesnt have to be something big, it starts with little things, in yourselves. A change of attitude, try to smile more, be nice, give somebody some extra attention, provide a helping hand for someone in need, seperate your waist, give an extra hug to your loved ones..... That is changing the man in the mirror!

I dont think he will come back at june 25th or something and most important, I wont give up, at any time! It's up to Michael to decide what he is going to do and I am with him, 100% at ANY time!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJJ1982 on March 08, 2010, 04:47:09 AM
I agree 100% with you Kuki :!:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CC on March 08, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
I´M WITH YOU KUKI!!!
 ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Integrity on March 09, 2010, 02:01:14 PM
RIGHT ON!!!! NO ONE HAS YET TO PROVE HE IS DEAD!!
HE IS ALIVE AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT ALL TO BLOW UP IN ALL OF THERE FACES!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: paula-c on March 09, 2010, 05:37:23 PM
Very well KuKi, is good to read things like that ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Cameron on March 10, 2010, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
Eh ben la vache !  :lol: (sorry I don't have english words for that)

Je t'ai parfaitement compris  :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: SEHF on March 11, 2010, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: "Integrity"
RIGHT ON!!!! NO ONE HAS YET TO PROVE HE IS DEAD!!
HE IS ALIVE AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR IT ALL TO BLOW UP IN ALL OF THERE FACES!!

Right.. as if an open casket picture or video would have ended this hoax crap. People would just be zoomed in on his dead body telling us why that's not him or why it's a wax model. I'm not so sure a rotting handful of his own flesh would help.. people then would just claim it was his twin brother (LOL).
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: scorpionchik on March 15, 2010, 08:26:06 PM
I cannot watch the video , it is blocked by copyright. Does it say only what you wrote below the video?

Well said, I agree and want to know everything: why, when, where. That's the human nature, especially when you love and care about someone very much.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on March 15, 2010, 11:07:20 PM
This whole hoax idea isn't crap and I am getting a little frustrated with people chiming in with not only rude opinions, but offering nothing substantial to the concept. If you have nothing intelligent to add or have nothing to nice to say then don't say anything, or better yet, don't read or enter into anything regarding the possibility of a hoax.

But I have something I wanted to share with everyone and it was two dreams involving Michael.

The first dream pretty much revolved around the tragedy of him passing away and I'll never forget this dream as long as I live. I was in the park and I was walking by until I noticed Michael Jackson sitting on a bench and I was so shocked by what I had seen my exact words were "But they said you were dead!"

His response? "I'm not dead. I can't die. I'll be back." Exact words in the dream.

Second dream was last night and it involved him coming back. In the dream I was getting ready for bed and whenever I go to sleep I leave on my television on the Boomerang channel or NBATV. As I was going to sleep a special news alert came on and it said "Michael Jackson is alive!" and the strangest thing was it was on every single channel including Cartoon Network, ESPN, TBN, FX, and etc.

It was by far one of the most strangest and yet best dreams I've ever had. In all honesty, I don't believe MJ is dead at all. I definitely believe he faked his death in order to escape someone trying to kill him or maybe he just wanted to be left alone. I am about 99% sure that he won't come back.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whatyourheartsays on March 16, 2010, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
This whole hoax idea isn't crap and I am getting a little frustrated with people chiming in with not only rude opinions, but offering nothing substantial to the concept. If you have nothing intelligent to add or have nothing to nice to say then don't say anything, or better yet, don't read or enter into anything regarding the possibility of a hoax.

But I have something I wanted to share with everyone and it was two dreams involving Michael.

The first dream pretty much revolved around the tragedy of him passing away and I'll never forget this dream as long as I live. I was in the park and I was walking by until I noticed Michael Jackson sitting on a bench and I was so shocked by what I had seen my exact words were "But they said you were dead!"

His response? "I'm not dead. I can't die. I'll be back." Exact words in the dream.

Second dream was last night and it involved him coming back. In the dream I was getting ready for bed and whenever I go to sleep I leave on my television on the Boomerang channel or NBATV. As I was going to sleep a special news alert came on and it said "Michael Jackson is alive!" and the strangest thing was it was on every single channel including Cartoon Network, ESPN, TBN, FX, and etc.

It was by far one of the most strangest and yet best dreams I've ever had. In all honesty, I don't believe MJ is dead at all. I definitely believe he faked his death in order to escape someone trying to kill him or maybe he just wanted to be left alone. I am about 99% sure that he won't come back.

Oh I had a dream few days ago...I was watching disney TV and there was a kind of studio with christmas time village, with snow and pink, yellow house's, like in cartoons. The camera was following the people presenting the show, and in a window I saw Michael's reflects : he was the one behind the camera, just behind me.
I was just like "oh my god ! that's Michael !"
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Its her on March 17, 2010, 12:13:14 AM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
This whole hoax idea isn't crap and I am getting a little frustrated with people chiming in with not only rude opinions, but offering nothing substantial to the concept. If you have nothing intelligent to add or have nothing to nice to say then don't say anything, or better yet, don't read or enter into anything regarding the possibility of a hoax.

But I have something I wanted to share with everyone and it was two dreams involving Michael.

The first dream pretty much revolved around the tragedy of him passing away and I'll never forget this dream as long as I live. I was in the park and I was walking by until I noticed Michael Jackson sitting on a bench and I was so shocked by what I had seen my exact words were "But they said you were dead!"


:arrow: His response? "I'm not dead. I can't die. I'll be back." Exact words in the......

HOAX :shock:

Second dream was last night and it involved him coming back. In the dream I was getting ready for bed and whenever I go to sleep I leave on my television on the Boomerang channel or NBATV. As I was going to sleep a special news alert came on and it said "Michael Jackson is alive!"

:arrow: and the strangest thing was it was on every single channel including Cartoon Network, ESPN, TBN, FX, and etc. 8-) :!:


It was by far one of the most strangest and yet best dreams I've ever had. In all honesty, I don't believe MJ is dead at all. I definitely believe he faked his death in order to escape someone trying to kill him or maybe he just wanted to be left alone. I am about 99% sure that he won't come back.


He he he... You may have hit the nail on the head, there, in Dreamland.

First:  MJ SAID he's here forever, on the back wall at his "funeral".

Second:  He's left enough clues saying he's NOT dead, now.

Third: (and I SWEAR, :D  I was going to post this, this week, but you said it first!!!)

I believe Michael Jackson is planning his comeback SIMULCAST on satellite--but bigger than Elvis did. THIS time EVERYONE will have a :arrow: front row seat  :!: (as predicted, elsewhere, here), even if only on their phone! He's probably going to BLAST the air- and cyber-  and ionosphere- waves with what has been nearest to his heart, which people have pooh-poohed for decades, because they arent' LISTENING to his genius Loving thoughts and observations; they have been too busy persecuting him and looking for dirt on him, and treating him like some shallow one-trick horse-celebrity. :roll:

He's been more places and seen and studied and THOUGHT about more things than people realize. There is a depth and compassion to him which REQUIRES expression and WILL not be "What--EVERed",  

 :!: EVER :!: again :!:

And, he's going to take over more channels and networks than he did when he blanketed the earth with "Black & White". 8-) 8-) (TOO COOL!)   They "didn't get him then"  :oops: :?: (---ACTUALLY, they DID,

OH YES. THEY DID, Baby.

and tried to say they didn't to make him feel small, but he's too BIG to be small!!!!!!!!!!!!) :D NOTHING stops him! He's got guts. And, well, right makes might... ;)

:arrow: Pray: that angels go before him to make his path straight (that includes protection and goodwill blessings)!!!  Go Mikey!!!! :D We can't WAIT.

No, I mean 8-) BRING IT HOME, MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We'll put up some fireworks for YOU, if you come back first week of July!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :razz: :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJ_Bad on March 28, 2010, 10:48:02 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
8:27 ;)

how many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!


Very good. I'm beLIEver and I do have faith..I think he is going to return this April or next year in January..actually I don't know when he'll be back.lol. I just know he will. :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MashMike on March 29, 2010, 08:43:31 AM
very well said Kuki,bravo
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: ZIsis on March 30, 2010, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: "Its her"
First:  MJ SAID he's here forever, on the back wall at his "funeral".

Second:  He's left enough clues saying he's NOT dead, now.

Third: (and I SWEAR, :D  I was going to post this, this week, but you said it first!!!)

I believe Michael Jackson is planning his comeback SIMULCAST on satellite--but bigger than Elvis did. THIS time EVERYONE will have a :arrow: front row seat  :!: (as predicted, elsewhere, here), even if only on their phone! He's probably going to BLAST the air- and cyber-  and ionosphere- waves with what has been nearest to his heart, which people have pooh-poohed for decades, because they arent' LISTENING to his genius Loving thoughts and observations; they have been too busy persecuting him and looking for dirt on him, and treating him like some shallow one-trick horse-celebrity. :roll:

He's been more places and seen and studied and THOUGHT about more things than people realize. There is a depth and compassion to him which REQUIRES expression and WILL not be "What--EVERed",  

 :!: EVER :!: again :!:

And, he's going to take over more channels and networks than he did when he blanketed the earth with "Black & White". 8-) 8-) (TOO COOL!)   They "didn't get him then"  :oops: :?: (---ACTUALLY, they DID,

OH YES. THEY DID, Baby.

and tried to say they didn't to make him feel small, but he's too BIG to be small!!!!!!!!!!!!) :D NOTHING stops him! He's got guts. And, well, right makes might... ;)

:arrow: Pray: that angels go before him to make his path straight (that includes protection and goodwill blessings)!!!  Go Mikey!!!! :D We can't WAIT.

No, I mean 8-) BRING IT HOME, MICHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We'll put up some fireworks for YOU, if you come back first week of July!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :razz: :D

"Its her", THANK YOU SO MUCH for your infectious enthusiasm; you ROCK TOTALLY! And I love this topic too!!! 8-)  :lol:  :D

Counting down to the BIG "IT"/"BAM"/"RETURN"/"COMEBACK"/"BAMSDAY" with MUCH anticipation!!

Happy 'discovering' & witnessing "the man we never knew, Michael Jackson: like we have never seen before" as he's revealed "piece by piece by piece"!!! ;) :)  :P  8-)  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :D


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Its her on March 31, 2010, 06:27:48 PM
ZIsis, Thank you for calling me "infectious". I LOVE that!

I am trying hard :!:  :D (Practicing) :lol:  :lol:

Thanks for joining in, TOO :!: 8-)  :lol:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 31, 2010, 07:13:04 PM
The reason is more important than when Michael is coming back we first have to understand the reason first and we're getting there now finally, well most of us are. I understand why he did this and the reason if bigger than anyone can imagine! That reason is not only important to him but also for us and our future!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CC on March 31, 2010, 09:51:15 PM
WE ARE ALMOST THERE! :D  :)  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tusia6631 on April 04, 2010, 04:08:48 AM
it's April 4 today.. ;)
i'm waiting for the MESSAGE!!!  :!:  :D
guys..i really feel lika sth's gonna happen today.. well, i don't say that Mike will be back..i'm just sayin that sth BIG gonna happen..we gonna have a message today!!  :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on April 04, 2010, 11:29:10 AM
I keep having dreams of Michael Jackson coming back and it's happening more frequent it seems like.

While I have no idea if we'll receive a message, clue, or a revelation today. All I can hope for is that Michael is at peace and happy for once. Although if something major happens tonight it'll be one step closer to an exciting reality.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: willddoMJ on April 05, 2010, 07:23:56 AM
only "big" thing that occured on 4th was an earthquake. I just dont feel that MJ will return, I always beleive he alive though.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Styloprincess on May 02, 2010, 07:55:30 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
8:27 ;)

[youtube:3gkkniou]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzPSWQYRRrQ[/youtube:3gkkniou]
how many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!


Very well said and I agree with you 100% I think for a lot of people the pain of Michael being gone it still very strong and all they're focusing on is when he is going to be back...and of course I believe that he will be back but you're right we have to figure out "the why" of the hoax, because Michael wants us to learn something and we should try our best to find out what that is.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 04, 2010, 01:05:03 AM
Everyone seems to agree we have to do something, but what?
I admitt I don't know what I personally can do.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: agathi on May 12, 2010, 03:42:32 PM
...maybe we just have to move on....

i used to believe but now its almost a year after and he is still not here... :?  :cry:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Integrity on May 20, 2010, 02:21:14 PM
I FEEL IN MY HEART MICHAEL JACKSON IS NOT DEAD!!!!
HE FAKED HIS DEATH FOR MANY OF REASONS AND THE MOST MAJOR REASON I BELIEVE WAS HIS CHILDREN, FAMILY AND HIS LIFE WAS IN GRAVE DANGER!!!!
HE WILL RETURN AND WILL SHOW EVERYONE THAT WE MUST THINK FOR OURSELVES,
QUESTION EVERYTHING, DO NOT HANG SOMEONE UNTIL YOU KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH, WALK THE PATH OF PEACE AND LOVE NO MATTER WHAT.
I FEEL HE WILL RETURN ON JULY BUT I DO NOT KNOW THE YEAR, FOR OUT OF HIS MOUTH HE DID SAY SEE YOU IN JULY!!!!!! :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
LOVE WILL CONQUER ALL!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MashMike on May 23, 2010, 02:54:10 AM
there is no way that he is dead, i'm sure in it 99%, one % i leave to God, he is so alive , day by day i make sure of it, yet we haven't a single fact that will prove that he's dead 100%.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjfansince4 on May 23, 2010, 03:11:46 AM
Quote from: "agathi"
...maybe we just have to move on....

i used to believe but now its almost a year after and he is still not here... :?  :cry:


move on? seriously? that's like giving a blind man sight and then having him say, "you know what...the world isn't as pretty as i thought, make me blind again!"

in other words, if you've opened your eyes to the hoax and you've truly believed for 11 months, how CAN you move on? he will come back people. he knows he has to and we know it too. go read TS' updates. you want proof? it's there.

if seeing is believing for you:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2602/3702933501_c30e6e97c9.jpg)

also:
[youtube:2rkxd891]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAJznN885o[/youtube:2rkxd891]

he's playing with us right now. and honestly, let's play his game. because what comes after play? BAM.

it's all for love. keep the faith!!!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: FITA on May 28, 2010, 02:18:49 PM
I don't know where to put this link:  http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/top-t ... mances.asp (http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/top-ten-concerts-live-performances.asp)

Someone from the Sony site posted it in one of the threads.  Michael is currently in the #3 position.  I hope we can put him in the #1 position where I believe he belongs.  Please help me.  I think it is possible for each person to vote once per day.  I vote several times per day from my mobile phone.  Right now he has 8.1% of the votes.  XJapan has 29% of the votes.

 :)

6/2/10; 22:14 PDT

Michael now has 9.1% of the votes.  Let's keep voting.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kirsche on May 29, 2010, 08:40:08 PM
When I see this " I'm alive and I'm here forever" screen his pose beside the words I always have to think about his pose to the camera at the end of the O2 press conference.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Integrity on June 02, 2010, 05:49:32 PM
Michael said "SEE YOU IN JULY" BUT COULD HE HAVE MEANT JUNE. If it is in June GREAT!
But if he makes his resurrection in July 25 people will fall out all over the world. It is interesting that 2+5= 7. There is that 7 again. It just keeps poppin up.
Michael Jackson is alive and will live forever!!!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CC on June 03, 2010, 10:01:33 AM
Quote from: "Integrity"
Michael said "SEE YOU IN JULY" BUT COULD HE HAVE MEANT JUNE. If it is in June GREAT!
But if he makes his resurrection in July 25 people will fall out all over the world. It is interesting that 2+5= 7. There is that 7 again. It just keeps poppin up.
Michael Jackson is alive and will live forever!!!!

what about july 7th???
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MissG on June 03, 2010, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "Integrity"
Michael said "SEE YOU IN JULY" BUT COULD HE HAVE MEANT JUNE. If it is in June GREAT!
But if he makes his resurrection in July 25 people will fall out all over the world. It is interesting that 2+5= 7. There is that 7 again. It just keeps poppin up.
Michael Jackson is alive and will live forever!!!!

what about july 7th???

We already saw him July the 7th  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whosbadmjsbad on June 05, 2010, 10:48:04 AM
All I can say is....Im tired of waiting..... Ill be at the trial on the 14th soooo hopefully MJ returns by then...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Datroot on June 05, 2010, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
All I can say is....Im tired of waiting..... Ill be at the trial on the 14th soooo hopefully MJ returns by then...

Its only a hearing - if there is a trial, it won't be for at least a year.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: FITA on June 15, 2010, 12:01:21 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
How many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift of God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!

Amen to that girl!

May I add my, "Amen"?  Amen, Souza and MJAlive999!  I completely agree!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: FarAway on June 17, 2010, 09:10:16 PM
I just wanted to make an observation: following all those similarities between Elvis and MJ's hoaxes, I think it would be wise to not expect MJ to come back any time soon...if he ever will, that is. Just look at how many years Elvis is faking his death. Well, if you believe MJ faked his death, then you probably believe Elvis also did it, because they are very similar hoaxes.


 Just saying.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Delia on June 18, 2010, 11:50:58 AM
I agree. The difference beeing that Michael is in fact present for all those who admire and try to understand him ...*Are you listening ?*...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: GoOoF on June 18, 2010, 03:07:13 PM
They could come back together as well. That makes sense for me. Honestly I've never believed in a possible Elvis-death hoax, and i've always thought that the fans just didn't want to let him go, that's why they tried to keep him alive in their heart. After i've learned so many things in the last one year, my opinion's changed. Nothing is impossible. Now i've became exactly just like them: tryin' to investigate what really happened on that day, and waitin' for the MAN to come back.
I've just had a dream abt the BAM last night. MJ was on stage with someone i couldn't remember. That was the first time i was dreaming abt him, and yes, it happened probably 'cause he's in my mind even if i'm sleeping, but it was still amazing to feel: he's back!
I was smiling when i woke up.  8-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Emily Hutjes on June 18, 2010, 05:49:32 PM
@ MJalive: Please do not blame any fans if Michael J.J. does not come back. The fans were not responsible for his disappearance. All that bought his music all through the years made him famous and rich. True fans of any star are a special kind of people. They think they truly love their star and that is not a criminal act.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on June 19, 2010, 01:40:50 AM
Does anyone have a feeling that something big is going to happen on the 25th?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: laura58 on June 19, 2010, 06:37:04 PM
Yes I do think something is going to happen soon not sure what but I think it is going to be big
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: laura58 on June 19, 2010, 07:08:11 PM
Not for nothing I also loved Elvis but I think he is gone he would be in his 80s or 90s by now dont you think some one would have seen him by now you can only hide from the whole world for so long sorry but that is what I think I could be wrong would'nt be the first time
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Cameron on June 22, 2010, 03:31:45 PM
I love the BAM scene after TII credits. This is so a big clue !
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: iluvmj4eva on June 23, 2010, 09:21:24 PM
I know there had to be major reasons for his hoax.  He's the only who knows and we're trying to figure it out.  I know he did it for himself.  I don't know if or when he'll ever return but the reasons for the hoax is my concern :?:   I love you michael, stay well and be blessed baby :)  
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: samsuperb on June 23, 2010, 10:01:30 PM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
8:27 ;)


how many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!
And? Then what is the point of the hoax then? If he doesnt come back then there's no reason for me to continue to comment on this forum. I'm here to look for clues, not to wait on his return while eating sunflowers seeds for the nest 15 years.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whatyourheartsays on June 23, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: "samsuperb"
Quote from: "MJalive999"
8:27 ;)


how many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!
And? Then what is the point of the hoax then? If he doesnt come back then there's no reason for me to continue to comment on this forum. I'm here to look for clues, not to wait on his return while eating sunflowers seeds for the nest 15 years.

Hey salted sunflowers seeds isn't that bad  :D

Anyway, I think we all have an opinion about MJ faking his death. It depends on our own feelings...Some think it's a message followed by a return, some think it's a run to save his life from who knows what terrible thing...

I mean, I don't think we could be "true fans" for believing or not in something. Because, at this time, nobody holds the truth...I think it's normal that some think he is dead, it's just that they felt the fragile part of Michael, and consider he could have really had a problem of drug addiction etc...for people who think he went away and never return to save his own life and for his kids safety, well we know Michael would never put his family in danger for anything, even for music (and for money made with music) Some other know about the messages that were important to him and that he had  will to fight for them...
I think we all hold our own truth and stick to it, because we know it could fit regarding what we feel about Michael...

There is no "better fan than other" we all love Michael and care for him. I would understand that people would leae this forum after june 25, willing to move on, and get back to their own life, keeping Michael in their hearts, with this little hope that will keep wispering " i still believe"

I just want to say that whatever happens in the next days, I love you all, because we all share the same thing here, our love for Michael. Take care everyone  ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on June 24, 2010, 12:55:31 PM
I am keeping my hopes down honestly. It's very important to not have high expectations or to place all of your eggs in one basket expecting a big event to transpire. As for my beliefs? I am at 90% in agreement with my thought process, my heart, and my soul along with many here that Michael is alive.

But I am also keeping that 10% in the belief that he is dead or that he is possibly alive but isn't coming back and if he does, it won't be anytime soon. I do, however, have a feeling that something big is going to happen tomorrow.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tusia6631 on June 24, 2010, 03:18:08 PM
tomorrow will be the 25th .. i hope that Mike will be back!! it gotta be the BAM's day!! :)
i've been waiting for this day for the whole year!! chills..  :mrgreen:
oh god.. what do ya think bout it?!?! will he be back tomorrow? :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kirsche on June 24, 2010, 06:50:02 PM
Quote from: "tusia6631"
tomorrow will be the 25th .. i hope that Mike will be back!! it gotta be the BAM's day!! :)
i've been waiting for this day for the whole year!! chills..  :mrgreen:
oh god.. what do ya think bout it?!?! will he be back tomorrow? :)


umm... no, I don't think so.... Like I said, I don't fix on any dates...but hey maybe july ("See you in July") ;)

But I just ask you ( For all who expecting June 25th to be the BAMS-Day):

Please, don't be disappointed if nothing big will happen!!!! Pleaaase and don't lose hope if nothing will happen.

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: missy_missy on June 24, 2010, 07:15:24 PM
Mj is receiving a lot of radio plays today, it made me sad and cry, even though i believe he is still alive. perhaps that is the same for the family - even though they know he is still alive, it still makes them sad. anyway, i hope Bamsday will be soon so we can take it to the next level
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MashMike on June 25, 2010, 08:22:02 AM
I totally understand u and agree with u,though i'm almost sure he is alive, every time i watch him on tv or listen to his sweet voice my eyes are covered with tears, i guess the family esp. his mother feels the same
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tusia6631 on June 25, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
There is a lot of MJ everywhere today..on the radio, tv, press.. and there are a lot of Tributes.. :) it's amazing how ppl remember him..:D
i wish he was back..
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: nefari on June 25, 2010, 08:45:07 AM
There is nothing on my TV but a couple of old shows about the awful charges and nasty stuff Michael went through, very quiet so far today.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Kirsche on June 25, 2010, 08:51:57 AM
Here it VERY! quiet...here's nothing! Not on MTV not on any other music channel here so far..

i think it's too quiet..
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tusia6631 on June 25, 2010, 09:31:12 AM
too quiet? noo.. i've already heard bout MJ on the radio and read in a press.. :)
and the internet is full of MJ fans today..and full  of beLIEvers..:)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: traceys_home on June 25, 2010, 10:35:32 AM
All over the news here in Los Angeles!

 :D  :D  :D  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whosbadmjsbad on June 25, 2010, 10:53:26 AM
He will be back today...Im sure!!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: nefari on June 25, 2010, 10:55:43 AM
Nothing at all going on here except news of a man blowing off his head about the oil spill, and some old footage about Michael being on drugs :cry:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tusia6631 on June 25, 2010, 10:56:15 AM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
He will be back today...Im sure!!
yes yes YES!!! he'll be back!! :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: King_Michael on June 25, 2010, 09:08:06 PM
Something is weird about today I just can't put my finger on it
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mjfansince4 on June 25, 2010, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: "King_Michael"
Something is weird about today I just can't put my finger on it

i feel like this is the beginning. i agree. there are a ton of things today that are off. i know TS said the "return" phase has already begun, but i feel like today the wheels just kicked up their speed by a 100 mph.

i really believe "this is it."

everyone, please, please, please. keep the faith. i know it hurts today, but this is for MICHAEL. if you've joined the army of love, we're on michael's mission. we wait for him, he doesn't wait for us.

"give me all your patience, your endurance"
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: gwynned on June 25, 2010, 11:33:51 PM
What about tomorrow?  It's a lunar eclipse.  Here's what one astrologer says about the period beginning with the Solstice:

It's hard to hyperbolize about the astrology we're currently experiencing -- it just doesn't get more dramatic than this. The Summer Solstice on Monday, when the Sun moved into Cancer, activated the Cardinal Grand Cross, and now we're quickly approaching Saturday's uber-intense Lunar Eclipse, which catalyzes the Solstice energies.

Just a thought.  But I believed he was 'buried' under a full moon.  Then there's moonwalker.  Who knows?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Valo on June 26, 2010, 05:23:21 AM
A german TV channel sended beautiful MJ specials the whole day. And people talked so sweet and lovely about him.
I could not hold back my thoughts like: in every next moment they will tell in the news that he is back... .
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: missdanipyt on June 26, 2010, 02:00:20 PM
Yesterday Michael was all over the television, every other channel had either documentaries, biographies, or like playing his music videos all day long, the Jacksons an American Dream was on, the 30th anniversary was on! Everywhere!!! But I didnt watch any of it, one because i was too busy on here keeping up with all the new hoax clues lol and two simply because its too painful for me to see all of that as if he were really gone.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: iluvmj4eva on June 27, 2010, 02:14:48 PM
THIS IS THE REASON WHY I JOINED THIS SITE TO GET CLUES AND FIGURE OUT WHY HE DID IT.  NOT JUST TO SAY HE'LL BE BACK, BUT WHY HE DID IT?  THAT'S MY REASON ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: emeraldcity on June 27, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: "iluvmj4eva"
THIS IS THE REASON WHY I JOINED THIS SITE TO GET CLUES AND FIGURE OUT WHY HE DID IT.  NOT JUST TO SAY HE'LL BE BACK, BUT WHY HE DID IT?  THAT'S MY REASON ;)

Welcome to the site!  I agree with you ... it's more about WHY he felt he needed to stage a hoax in the first place that we should focus our energies on.  The "reward" for our efforts to uncover the truth will be Michael's return ... but first, there's work to do!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Heartsong on June 28, 2010, 08:35:29 PM
I have been a fan of MJ’S my whole life. He is 3 years older than me. His music has kept time with my life and has been there to speak to me at crucial moments of it. I remember clearly at 10 yrs of age seeing him sing and dance on “Sonny & Cher” and thinking “Wow he is fantastic for a little kid”, forgetting that I was one myself.
 
“Off the Wall” assuaged the pain of the breakup from my first love at 18, “Thriller” the joy of having special friends in my life and the birth of two of my children, “Dangerous” provided strength during my marriage breakup and HIStory was associated with rebirth and the excitement of finally seeing my idol on stage.
 
During the years, I sadly followed the media reports as to his eccentricities and legal troubles, not believing a word of it. I could see none of it was true- I just had to look in his eyes... Then 2005 came. I followed the court appearances, the media hype and thought “oh no, not again”. He looked frail and defeated every time he went to court. The sadness emanating from him was palpable. I said to my husband one day as he struggled to approach the courthouse, surrounded by scrabbling bedlam “this is going to kill him”. Not the effort of appearing, but the toll it was taking on his very soul. I knew he wouldn’t be able to deal with it because it tore at his heart when people made up lies about him. I wondered where everyone was who professed to love him. I was heartened to see the fan support. One of the 2005 jurors mentioned in “Gone too soon” that she couldn’t understand why he was so vilified. What had he done that he deserved this? What was it about him that offended so many? “So what, he’s had his face done, he has to bleach his skin. SO WHAT!” He was proven innocent on 14 counts, but for MJ that would not be enough. He couldn’t live knowing that some people, including some of the fans he loved, still believed him to be guilty. His sense of justice must have been horribly offended. He must have feared that deep down the people who professed to love him suspected him and always would. How does a gentle soul like Michael endure this?? How does he endure the lies, the haggling, the betrayal he saw every day and yet still maintain his faith that these very people can make our world the better place he dreamed of?? How does he see all the good he has done be totally dismissed by lies?? He left his beloved Neverland, he went into hiding for 4 years. We saw little of him in the media except for odd reports of sightings.
 
What we did hear in the media however were reports of his flailing financial affairs. His record sales had fallen to all time lows. He owed a great deal of money, was spending tons of it and wasn’t making any. Now, Michael doesn’t strike me as an irresponsible man. Imo he would have sincerely wanted to pay his debts, but how? A comeback! It was the only way. Maybe it had been long enough. Maybe people were starting to let go of the “MJ is a paedophile” BS. The only way to revive interest in him was to announce a concert series. So then everyone comes out of the woodwork, “Oh, we love you Michael! (We love the MONEY you can make for us Michael...).
 
Trouble is, everyone needed the money, INCLUDING Michael. He knew he would be flat out doing 10 concerts. I’ve seen him perform. I saw the announcement and I thought “no way, this will never happen. You are nearly 50 years old. You don’t have the strength”. He MUST have known it himself and said he was concerned that the number had been raised to over 50 concerts. BUT, his estate still needed the money.

Step in Death Hoax. This idea is SO brilliant it almost is genius! First bring the fans and media out of the woodwork- announce concerts and allow yourself to be seen for the first time in years, this will renew interest. Keep hammering home reports that ALL 50 of the concerts are sold out and that he could have sold out 100’s. Rehearse and make sure it is all captured on film. The airways start to play your music again...
 
THEN “DIE”. The whole world just STOPS! Many, many more people than he could have ever fit into the O2 arena and he didn’t have to sweat a DROP! The internet is totally jammed, record sales go through the roof. A movie is released (MJ’s favourite medium). The public begin to understand the REAL MJ. Every media outlet covers it. His family are spotlighted and most importantly HE IS REDEEMED! The media are ashamed of the way they drove him to drugs and solitude, the fans are ashamed for even contemplating his guilt. The media are FORCED to scrutinize the way they treated him and to take some responsibility for the lies they spread about him (and his “death”). The TRUTH will finally come out as journalists finally start digging for it. He is at the top again AND his estate is paying of his debts.

He has a new generation of fans (my 11 yr old daughters’ room is plastered with his posters. She dances his moves in the supermarket!). His music and its’ message are experiencing a rebirth. He doesn’t have to kill himself on stage. Michael finally has peace. He can live a quiet life with his kids. He has money to pay off his debts. He doesn’t have to sell Neverland or his catalogue. He has work unpublished, as yet, and can keep on with his dream of producing films (in the background of course). He can be FREE. Free to live the rest of his life on his own terms.

I totally understand the reason he did it. It took care of a range of issues in one fell swoop. I don’t think he will come back. If he did, it would play straight into the hands of the media he so hates. They would vilify him again, accuse him of raising funds under false pretences and he would lose credibility. A come back would defeat the whole purpose of his “death”. He has finally separated Michael Jackson, the man, from the pressure of being Michael Jackson, the icon.
 
I love you Michael. I trust your judgement. Your brilliant legacy will live on forever. Always in my heart...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Integrity on July 02, 2010, 09:22:49 PM
Everything will happen as it should!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: PJ4MJ on July 03, 2010, 01:01:25 PM
Quote from: "Integrity"
Everything will happen as it should!

Amen!  I don't presume to know what will happen, when it will happen, or why.  I have my own opinions, but what do I know; really?  I'm just along for the ride, and the fact that I think there IS a ride is enough for now.  It could end tomorrow or go on for years to come.  I have no control over it so I'm not going to stress about it.  I'm just going to enjoy it!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whatyourheartsays on July 04, 2010, 08:08:22 PM
Quote from: "Heartsong"
I have been a fan of MJ’S my whole life. He is 3 years older than me. His music has kept time with my life and has been there to speak to me at crucial moments of it. I remember clearly at 10 yrs of age seeing him sing and dance on “Sonny & Cher” and thinking “Wow he is fantastic for a little kid”, forgetting that I was one myself.
 
“Off the Wall” assuaged the pain of the breakup from my first love at 18, “Thriller” the joy of having special friends in my life and the birth of two of my children, “Dangerous” provided strength during my marriage breakup and HIStory was associated with rebirth and the excitement of finally seeing my idol on stage.
 
During the years, I sadly followed the media reports as to his eccentricities and legal troubles, not believing a word of it. I could see none of it was true- I just had to look in his eyes... Then 2005 came. I followed the court appearances, the media hype and thought “oh no, not again”. He looked frail and defeated every time he went to court. The sadness emanating from him was palpable. I said to my husband one day as he struggled to approach the courthouse, surrounded by scrabbling bedlam “this is going to kill him”. Not the effort of appearing, but the toll it was taking on his very soul. I knew he wouldn’t be able to deal with it because it tore at his heart when people made up lies about him. I wondered where everyone was who professed to love him. I was heartened to see the fan support. One of the 2005 jurors mentioned in “Gone too soon” that she couldn’t understand why he was so vilified. What had he done that he deserved this? What was it about him that offended so many? “So what, he’s had his face done, he has to bleach his skin. SO WHAT!” He was proven innocent on 14 counts, but for MJ that would not be enough. He couldn’t live knowing that some people, including some of the fans he loved, still believed him to be guilty. His sense of justice must have been horribly offended. He must have feared that deep down the people who professed to love him suspected him and always would. How does a gentle soul like Michael endure this?? How does he endure the lies, the haggling, the betrayal he saw every day and yet still maintain his faith that these very people can make our world the better place he dreamed of?? How does he see all the good he has done be totally dismissed by lies?? He left his beloved Neverland, he went into hiding for 4 years. We saw little of him in the media except for odd reports of sightings.
 
What we did hear in the media however were reports of his flailing financial affairs. His record sales had fallen to all time lows. He owed a great deal of money, was spending tons of it and wasn’t making any. Now, Michael doesn’t strike me as an irresponsible man. Imo he would have sincerely wanted to pay his debts, but how? A comeback! It was the only way. Maybe it had been long enough. Maybe people were starting to let go of the “MJ is a paedophile” BS. The only way to revive interest in him was to announce a concert series. So then everyone comes out of the woodwork, “Oh, we love you Michael! (We love the MONEY you can make for us Michael...).
 
Trouble is, everyone needed the money, INCLUDING Michael. He knew he would be flat out doing 10 concerts. I’ve seen him perform. I saw the announcement and I thought “no way, this will never happen. You are nearly 50 years old. You don’t have the strength”. He MUST have known it himself and said he was concerned that the number had been raised to over 50 concerts. BUT, his estate still needed the money.

Step in Death Hoax. This idea is SO brilliant it almost is genius! First bring the fans and media out of the woodwork- announce concerts and allow yourself to be seen for the first time in years, this will renew interest. Keep hammering home reports that ALL 50 of the concerts are sold out and that he could have sold out 100’s. Rehearse and make sure it is all captured on film. The airways start to play your music again...
 
THEN “DIE”. The whole world just STOPS! Many, many more people than he could have ever fit into the O2 arena and he didn’t have to sweat a DROP! The internet is totally jammed, record sales go through the roof. A movie is released (MJ’s favourite medium). The public begin to understand the REAL MJ. Every media outlet covers it. His family are spotlighted and most importantly HE IS REDEEMED! The media are ashamed of the way they drove him to drugs and solitude, the fans are ashamed for even contemplating his guilt. The media are FORCED to scrutinize the way they treated him and to take some responsibility for the lies they spread about him (and his “death”). The TRUTH will finally come out as journalists finally start digging for it. He is at the top again AND his estate is paying of his debts.

He has a new generation of fans (my 11 yr old daughters’ room is plastered with his posters. She dances his moves in the supermarket!). His music and its’ message are experiencing a rebirth. He doesn’t have to kill himself on stage. Michael finally has peace. He can live a quiet life with his kids. He has money to pay off his debts. He doesn’t have to sell Neverland or his catalogue. He has work unpublished, as yet, and can keep on with his dream of producing films (in the background of course). He can be FREE. Free to live the rest of his life on his own terms.

I totally understand the reason he did it. It took care of a range of issues in one fell swoop. I don’t think he will come back. If he did, it would play straight into the hands of the media he so hates. They would vilify him again, accuse him of raising funds under false pretences and he would lose credibility. A come back would defeat the whole purpose of his “death”. He has finally separated Michael Jackson, the man, from the pressure of being Michael Jackson, the icon.
 
I love you Michael. I trust your judgement. Your brilliant legacy will live on forever. Always in my heart...

I totally agree with you. I even have the crazy thought that it could be the BIGGEST music industry contract ever. And I wouldn't be upset or angry. It would be just brilliant  :mrgreen: get everything turned his way, get money, get new fame, get the media saying they were bad guys of the story, what could be better ? Oh I forgot, Freedom at least for the rest of his life with his kids ! Sometime I just tell myself, could Michael have such a big and terrible idea, but so brilliant at the same time ? And the answer is Yes, even if people could be horrified by it.
Title: July 11, 2010
Post by: gwynned on July 04, 2010, 09:21:44 PM
July 11th is the finals in the world cup.  Chris Brown says 'Bam!'  Sing your heart out.  Is it possible Michael will appear at the finals and sing his heart out with us?  Will the world ever see a larger audience or provide a greater opportunity for MJ to spread his message than that day at the SUNFLOWER!!!! stadium.  It's almost two obvious.  But there is interesting astrology for that day, which is a solar eclipse, ending the eclipse season which began on.....June 26th!

http://virgomagic.wordpress.com/2010/07 ... r-eclipse/ (http://virgomagic.wordpress.com/2010/07/03/july-11th-solar-eclipse/)

A Solar Eclipse is a precise conjunction of the Sun and Moon — a super-powerful New Moon that heralds major endings and beginnings. On the long road to a new reality, as pointed to by the astrology of the next several years, this Eclipse represents a choice point.

Solar Eclipses — when the Moon’s shadow darkens the light of the Sun — were feared by our ancient ancestors. The disappearance of the Sun is a scary thing — without its light, we all die. Although most moderns are barely even aware of Eclipses, let alone their historical meaning, the fear factor still tends to amplify.

During Eclipse Season — in this case, June 12 to July 25– feelings that have been hidden, buried or denied rise to the surface. The Lunar Eclipse was in Capricorn, the sign associated with fear, and the Moon was conjunct Pluto, the planet representing what terrifies us, and what we therefore banish to the Underworld. The feeling that has been most readily available, and calling for attention and healing, is FEAR.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: missdanipyt on July 04, 2010, 11:45:55 PM
Guys do you really think Michael will be back so soon? I mean I know it makes sense and all, especially on 7/7/10 because 7's his lucky number, and one year from the memorial...but I just dont feel like Michaels message is being lived out the way he wants it to be just yet. I mean sure us believers are aware of his message and we've made the change but what about the rest of the world?
Hopefully more people have realized his message and have made a change but idk I just don't feel like there's been a big enough difference yet, you guys feel me?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Magnolia1791 on July 05, 2010, 02:05:11 AM
Quote from: "missdanipyt"
Guys do you really think Michael will be back so soon? I mean I know it makes sense and all, especially on 7/7/10 because 7's his lucky number, and one year from the memorial...but I just dont feel like Michaels message is being lived out the way he wants it to be just yet. I mean sure us believers are aware of his message and we've made the change but what about the rest of the world?
Hopefully more people have realized his message and have made a change but idk I just don't feel like there's been a big enough difference yet, you guys feel me?

I think so too! Unfortunately, I realize, that many do not care about a possible message. Many expect Michael back as the man he was - on stage, as a musician and artist. But I believe that there is more than that! I've already written about in other threads. especially in the thread of my country, the members are waiting on the big BAM. They whine and complain without being active. It makes me mad!
If we reflect the fact that Michael wanted his life to send a message to humanity, we can see that the time for Michael's return has not come yet!
More people need to understand.
The knowledge about the disease of our world, spiritually and socially, is not deep enough in the minds of men.
I do not know what has to happen yet, so we understand ... But I feel quite clear that a yet unknown truth will paves its way. 2012? I do not know.
Whether or not Michael ... We can create great things as a community, if we internalize the message of love, live and carry on - carefully, critically, present.
Fear is the disease of our world. Racism, oppression, hate, lust for power - at the beginning is always fear.
Everything is connected to each other, always. Just as one can we change something.
Let us act within the meaning of Michael as an Army of L.O.V.E.!
HEAL the world! It's up to us to start!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: gwynned on July 05, 2010, 09:23:39 AM
I agree that we are not ready.  But when will we be ready?  Will more time add to our readiness?  Maybe it's me, but that look on Jermaine's face in the LKL interview and when he announced the 'one tribute we haven't seen,' made me think it's getting very difficult for him to continue to keep the secret, because it is so close.

Obviously, only time will tell.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: BreakOfDawn on July 06, 2010, 03:01:53 AM
In the movie this is it, he tells us we have 4 years for change the world, maybe this is a clue and he will come back in four years.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Faysal on July 06, 2010, 03:38:24 PM
Hi there!
I am still not convinced if he will ever return. I do not know what to believe.
I do believe that there is something wrong, so many things that do not fit, it´s like I cannot put my finger on it...

Faysal
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on July 07, 2010, 07:13:02 PM
I believe he's alive but I don't believe he'll comeback.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: whosbadmjsbad on July 07, 2010, 09:41:44 PM
Im kinda sick of the whole hoax....Im ready to be done....I think its time to give MJ a break and let him come back when he feels like it.....I'll come back in like 3 years and see who is still here lol :)

Its been fun :)

Thanks Guys and Michael
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: andy1andy2 on July 08, 2010, 12:03:36 AM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
Im kinda sick of the whole hoax....Im ready to be done....I think its time to give MJ a break and let him come back when he feels like it.....I'll come back in like 3 years and see who is still here lol :)

Its been fun :)

Thanks Guys and Michael
Goodbye my friend you will be missed. :cry:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: gwynned on July 08, 2010, 12:25:05 AM
Quote from: "whosbadmjsbad"
Im kinda sick of the whole hoax....Im ready to be done....I think its time to give MJ a break and let him come back when he feels like it.....I'll come back in like 3 years and see who is still here lol :)

Its been fun :)

Thanks Guys and Michael

Geeze.  It could happen any day and won't you feel silly then!  Why not just hang with it a bit longer, perhaps not so intensely.  But don't cut yourself off entirely.  We never know the hour.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Magnolia1791 on July 08, 2010, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: "gwynned"
I agree that we are not ready.  But when will we be ready?  Will more time add to our readiness?  Maybe it's me, but that look on Jermaine's face in the LKL interview and when he announced the 'one tribute we haven't seen,' made me think it's getting very difficult for him to continue to keep the secret, because it is so close.

Obviously, only time will tell.
I'm really confused at the moment. I still believe in the Hoax! I am a supporter of Michaels message. But sometimes I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. The people around me laughing at me or do not understand me. I also would like to be much more active in order to proclaim Michaels message, but don't know how ... I think twitter was a good beginning, let's see what can come of it. I also believe that quite an obvious hint of his family to the us believer would be good. That could mobilize our forces dramatically. The same time I also know that it doesn't work that easy...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: gwynned on July 08, 2010, 09:01:09 AM
Quote from: "Magnolia1791"
I'm really confused at the moment. I still believe in the Hoax! I am a supporter of Michaels message. But sometimes I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. The people around me laughing at me or do not understand me. I also would like to be much more active in order to proclaim Michaels message, but don't know how ... I think twitter was a good beginning, let's see what can come of it. I also believe that quite an obvious hint of his family to the us believer would be good. That could mobilize our forces dramatically. The same time I also know that it doesn't work that easy...

I know how you feel.  We all live in a world where Michael is leading the way, very much alive to us.  We share our love for him with each other and it all feels quite real and true.  But that feeling seems strangely out of place in the world as we know it.  For awhile I thought I should make a video to be more active or put up a banner or something.  But Michael said we needed to put love back into the world.  A great teacher of mine said recently, "It's not how much you do, but how much love you put in the doing."  A small light can illuminate an entire dark room.  Without getting too metaphysical here, I believe we can tip the balance of light and dark in the world simply by remaining in a loving state.  The dark forces want us to be afraid and angry, to give up our beliefs and confidence in ourselves and in the divine goodness that surrounds us.  They are fighting a losing battle.  As long as we have God in our hearts, the truth will prevail.  We are in the testing period, will we be there with him through 'our doubts' (he only used 'our' in connection to doubts).  Will we continue to believe when all feels hopeless.  

Blessed are we who cannot (yet!) see, and still beLIEve.  Hang in there!  I don't think it will be much longer, but even if I'm wrong, there's still love in the longing.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Magnolia1791 on July 09, 2010, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: "gwynned"
Quote from: "Magnolia1791"
I'm really confused at the moment. I still believe in the Hoax! I am a supporter of Michaels message. But sometimes I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. The people around me laughing at me or do not understand me. I also would like to be much more active in order to proclaim Michaels message, but don't know how ... I think twitter was a good beginning, let's see what can come of it. I also believe that quite an obvious hint of his family to the us believer would be good. That could mobilize our forces dramatically. The same time I also know that it doesn't work that easy...

I know how you feel.  We all live in a world where Michael is leading the way, very much alive to us.  We share our love for him with each other and it all feels quite real and true.  But that feeling seems strangely out of place in the world as we know it.  For awhile I thought I should make a video to be more active or put up a banner or something.  But Michael said we needed to put love back into the world.  A great teacher of mine said recently, "It's not how much you do, but how much love you put in the doing."  A small light can illuminate an entire dark room.  Without getting too metaphysical here, I believe we can tip the balance of light and dark in the world simply by remaining in a loving state.  The dark forces want us to be afraid and angry, to give up our beliefs and confidence in ourselves and in the divine goodness that surrounds us.  They are fighting a losing battle.  As long as we have God in our hearts, the truth will prevail.  We are in the testing period, will we be there with him through 'our doubts' (he only used 'our' in connection to doubts).  Will we continue to believe when all feels hopeless.  

Blessed are we who cannot (yet!) see, and still beLIEve.  Hang in there!  I don't think it will be much longer, but even if I'm wrong, there's still love in the longing.

Many thanks for your nice words! In what you say, I agree totally.
Since I have joined the forum, my thoughts and the expression of me have changed.
All doubts, fears and struggle are worth it, if we can give people Love and hope again.
It is worth it to fight together for Michaels message of love.

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on July 10, 2010, 06:07:46 PM
Hi there,

You know, while reading this subject, I noticed that there's sometimes confusion and a tendency to impatience, which I understand completely because it's in our nature to have a sort of time schedule in our heads with the result that unconsiously high expectations will be created. Meaning: if you constantly set a BAM-day, on which you believe that Michael will return, you finally get disappointed and perhaps even loose faith. On the other hand people need to speculate or find clues in order to keep the faith. It's everyone's choice how to cope with the BAM-day or returnday. And first of all it's up to Michael to decide to come back and if so: WHEN he returns.

L.O.V.E.

"We must use time wisely and forever realize that the time is always ripe to do right." Nelson Mandela
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on July 18, 2010, 01:05:46 AM
The only reason I can't see MJ coming back is for one reason. What happens(If he's alive) if he returns and then at some point he really does pass away? No one will believe it, the respect wouldn't be there, and I just feel it would be for nothing. I honestly believe Michael was done with performing, done with the media, and just done with the spotlight.

He often said he wanted to disappear and become a recluse to the point to where no one would see him ever again. I believe this is what he did.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: teerockjelli on July 18, 2010, 01:12:07 AM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
The only reason I can't see MJ coming back is for one reason. What happens(If he's alive) if he returns and then at some point he really does pass away? No one will believe it, the respect wouldn't be there, and I just feel it would be for nothing. I honestly believe Michael was done with performing, done with the media, and just done with the spotlight.

He often said he wanted to disappear and become a recluse to the point to where no one would see him ever again. I believe this is what he did.

 I think so too, that its wrap, a rizzy, that what we have is what is already here :(

I am letting go :( , I just come back to the site for the f*** of it... plus there's not to many sites of people discussing things with integrity... :|
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on July 18, 2010, 03:18:05 PM
And if he did/does comeback I think he would quietly pass away without the media attention. But that would be next to impossible when you think about it. Honestly I think Michael was just done with everything.

Wherever he is I hope he's happy and finally has some peace. I can accept that he most likely won't be back or isn't alive, because that's life and life has some disappointments and offers some harsh realities.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely believe that he's alive, I honestly do. But I think we all shouldn't get our hopes up expecting a return.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: missdanipyt on July 18, 2010, 04:36:55 PM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
And if he did/does comeback I think he would quietly pass away without the media attention. But that would be next to impossible when you think about it. Honestly I think Michael was just done with everything.

Wherever he is I hope he's happy and finally has some peace. I can accept that he most likely won't be back or isn't alive, because that's life and life has some disappointments and offers some harsh realities.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely believe that he's alive, I honestly do. But I think we all shouldn't get our hopes up expecting a return.
You make a good point, and I've often thought about this myself...but whenever I have doubts about a return I just think about the bam scene at the end of this is it. If Michael wasn't coming back then what could this scene possibly mean?!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: this1crazygirl on July 18, 2010, 05:48:25 PM
Quote from: "missdanipyt"
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
And if he did/does comeback I think he would quietly pass away without the media attention. But that would be next to impossible when you think about it. Honestly I think Michael was just done with everything.

Wherever he is I hope he's happy and finally has some peace. I can accept that he most likely won't be back or isn't alive, because that's life and life has some disappointments and offers some harsh realities.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely believe that he's alive, I honestly do. But I think we all shouldn't get our hopes up expecting a return.
You make a good point, and I've often thought about this myself...but whenever I have doubts about a return I just think about the bam scene at the end of this is it. If Michael wasn't coming back then what could this scene possibly mean?!

you have a point there
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MashMike on July 19, 2010, 06:29:36 AM
TrueBeLIEver1981 i absolutely agree with u , yes he is definitely alive but i also dont think he is coming back
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJ062509 on July 27, 2010, 10:58:42 PM
I will NEVER loose faith that Michael is alive! I know in my heart that he is alive and well somewhere, resting and relaxing and he deserves every single minute of it! I will always beLIEve that he is alive, even if he doesnt come back in a year or 2, I dont blame him for wanting to get out of the media spotlight for a while, but I will always be on the look out for BAM day!

Never loose faith, even when your hopes fade always BeLIEve
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: agathi on August 13, 2010, 12:56:55 PM
he is alive...but not coming back.... :|
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: trublu on August 13, 2010, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: "agathi"
he is alive...but not coming back.... :|

Would you mind telling me how you know? Thanks :)

(That he's not coming back)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: agathi on August 13, 2010, 01:03:16 PM
cause if he wanted to come back he would had done it already.. :?  :roll:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: trublu on August 13, 2010, 01:07:56 PM
Not if it wasn't the right time. I don't know either way but I am always interested in hearing others opinions.

Peace
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 13, 2010, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: "agathi"
cause if he wanted to come back he would had done it already.. :?  :roll:


Because?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on August 13, 2010, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: "agathi"
cause if he wanted to come back he would had done it already.. :?  :roll:

Why? It's only been a year and 2 months...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: curls on August 13, 2010, 01:53:43 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "agathi"
cause if he wanted to come back he would had done it already.. :?  :roll:


Because?

Didn't TS suggest MJ wanted to come back last Halloween but we weren't ready for him? We're almost another year on from there, so MJ has either had to rethink his plan considerably, or maybe he's discovered he quite likes 'being dead'. Or was the Halloween 'return', one of TS's cryptic uses of the word, that he can turn into not really meaning 'return' if it doesn't happen?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: CC on August 13, 2010, 02:18:31 PM
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "agathi"
cause if he wanted to come back he would had done it already.. :?  :roll:


Because?

Didn't TS suggest MJ wanted to come back last Halloween but we weren't ready for him? We're almost another year on from there, so MJ has either had to rethink his plan considerably, or maybe he's discovered he quite likes 'being dead'. Or was the Halloween 'return', one of TS's cryptic uses of the word, that he can turn into not really meaning 'return' if it doesn't happen?


maybe this Hallowen... is just before the release of the new album by Sony... i read something about a lot of MJ last Hallowen, so maybe he was one of this MJ and he already cameback... i think that we don´t need more things to believe he is alive, i believe because of dave dave, green man, saw mask at universal... and even the dave dave lookalike at the janet performance, pinocchio at grammy... I think he already comeback and we notice that, but the media don´t... :|
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mrkite on August 19, 2010, 12:19:14 PM
I am sure he will be back.... we watched him.... look at the second video here....

http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/ ... identidad/ (http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/michael-jackson-se-deja-ver-bajo-otra-identidad/)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mrkite on August 21, 2010, 09:12:48 AM
Look at this post... it´s in Spanish but you can understand it.... ¿What is your opinion?

http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/ ... n-en-gary/ (http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/aparece-foto-de-e%C2%B4casanova-en-el-monumento-a-michael-jackson-en-gary/)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 21, 2010, 04:00:28 PM
Quote from: "mrkite"
Look at this post... it´s in Spanish but you can understand it.... ¿What is your opinion?

http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/ ... n-en-gary/ (http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/aparece-foto-de-e%C2%B4casanova-en-el-monumento-a-michael-jackson-en-gary/)


Please don't post this link in every thread. The picture of E'cas on the monument is already discussed in another thread, please use the search function.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJsForever on August 29, 2010, 09:59:59 PM
Why would he come back? He is finally at peace one way or another and I can't think of a single good reason to return. If he was miserable in the spot light before do you really think it would be better now? I hope I am wrong, but I think he has went through too much to ever return.
Kat
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mrkite on September 01, 2010, 11:24:13 AM
http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/ ... identidad/ (http://javibf.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/michael-jackson-se-deja-ver-bajo-otra-identidad/)    :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: mrkite on September 01, 2010, 11:24:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__I1WNsZ7hE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__I1WNsZ7hE)    :roll:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: suspicious mind on September 01, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: "mrkite"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__I1WNsZ7hE    :roll:

it always diturbs me to hear how upset he was by what happened then. to hear it in his voice :cry:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: lynnandsofee on September 01, 2010, 09:53:42 PM
I too believe that Michael has had enough, wouldn't you?  He always said he would disapear and thats exactly what he has done.  He doesn't have any more to prove, he's done it all, and done it well.  Why would he subject himself to more hatred.  As far as that speech at the end of TII, I never took it for more than it was.  It was him saying what he was going to do in reference to the concerts, and not a big clue for the hoax.  I think alot of that was taken in the wrong contents.  I would think one of two...Free at last to enjoy his life....or he has passed.  Either way he is Free and no more pain.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJsForever on September 02, 2010, 09:42:03 AM
There are a lot of strange things around Mike's "death" that is for sure. However no one knows for sure what happened except Mike. No one will ever know why he did it until he decides to come back and tell us. Quite frankly if he went to this much trouble to get away from the spot light, why would he ever decide to put himself through the BS again. I just don't see a comeback, and really doubt any of us will ever know what happened. I hope I am wrong, but I just can't see it.
Kat
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Datroot on September 02, 2010, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: "MJsForever"
There are a lot of strange things around Mike's "death" that is for sure. However no one knows for sure what happened except Mike. No one will ever know why he did it until he decides to come back and tell us. Quite frankly if he went to this much trouble to get away from the spot light, why would he ever decide to put himself through the BS again. I just don't see a comeback, and really doubt any of us will ever know what happened. I hope I am wrong, but I just can't see it.
Kat


Same here but I still want to try and get to the bottom of it for my own peace of mind.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: curls on September 02, 2010, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: "MJsForever"
There are a lot of strange things around Mike's "death" that is for sure. However no one knows for sure what happened except Mike. No one will ever know why he did it until he decides to come back and tell us. Quite frankly if he went to this much trouble to get away from the spot light, why would he ever decide to put himself through the BS again. I just don't see a comeback, and really doubt any of us will ever know what happened. I hope I am wrong, but I just can't see it.
Kat

I'm interested in why you think 'he went to this much trouble to get away from the spot light'. If that was the reason for him 'dying' then I personally don't think there would be all the 'strange things' around his 'death'. It would've been clean and clear and no-one would be questioning it. Also, he was pretty much out of the spotlight anyway from 2005, so I don't follow how you come to this conclusion. The 'strange things' around his death indicate to me that he wanted us to question it - he wanted to be back in the spotlight, if you like! JMO!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Datroot on September 02, 2010, 10:15:05 AM
It must have taken a lot of organising to hoax his death which, to my mind, indicates he went through a lot of trouble to do it.  Therefore, it would seem odd that he wants to return to it - that's my interpretation of the post I was agreeing with.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 2 Bad on September 02, 2010, 01:22:35 PM
I often wonder if we will ever see him again as well.
 All the confusion with his death are there because of the media, absurd as it sounds they (the media) are the ones always tripping us up.
The comment about a "cleaner scenario of death" I agree. Something more cut and dried would be easier to swallow, but the way it stands now there are more questions than not about what happened.
I am keeping the faith! I am simmering!
Michael if you read this, just know that no matter what happens I LOVE you more!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: curls on September 02, 2010, 05:59:51 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
It must have taken a lot of organising to hoax his death which, to my mind, indicates he went through a lot of trouble to do it.  Therefore, it would seem odd that he wants to return to it - that's my interpretation of the post I was agreeing with.

I agree it took a lot of organising and he went through a lot of trouble to do it. But if he didn't want to return and wanted people to genuinely believe he was dead, to be honest, I personally think he'd have done a far better job of it, especially taking into consideration all that organising and trouble! So, do you think all the strange things that don't add up are simply 'mistakes' in this carefully organised plan? From what I think I know about MJ's mind, I prefer to go with the likelihood of them being intentional.

I like this discussion, it's making me review my thoughts and compare them to other people's. Thanks!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: missdanipyt on September 02, 2010, 06:25:38 PM
Yes I agree with what you are saying, Curls!! :)

And about the BAM scene at the end of this is it, personally I think that this footage was always meant to be seen. Theres a lot of things that make me believe this, but because I believe this is one of the main reasons why I think the bam scene is a huge clue. It just seems so random and pointless to have this scene there if it isn't a clue. If it's not a clue then it doesnt make any sense. I mean sure Michael could have said this about what he was gonna do during the concert, but why put it at the end of the credits? They wanted people to see this clip, but if it is not a clue then why would they want us to see it?
If you think maybe it's just simply one last clip of Michael working for the audience to enjoy. If that's the case, in this clip what he says can VERY coincidentally relate to this hoax, and if they really did just wanna show a random scene of Mike, seems like they could have chosen a better clip of maybe Michael singing, dancing, laughing, or something more special or personable or interesting... instead he is just standing there saying these things. that's all.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Datroot on September 03, 2010, 05:46:48 AM
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "Datroot"
It must have taken a lot of organising to hoax his death which, to my mind, indicates he went through a lot of trouble to do it.  Therefore, it would seem odd that he wants to return to it - that's my interpretation of the post I was agreeing with.

I agree it took a lot of organising and he went through a lot of trouble to do it. But if he didn't want to return and wanted people to genuinely believe he was dead, to be honest, I personally think he'd have done a far better job of it, especially taking into consideration all that organising and trouble! So, do you think all the strange things that don't add up are simply 'mistakes' in this carefully organised plan? From what I think I know about MJ's mind, I prefer to go with the likelihood of them being intentional.

I like this discussion, it's making me review my thoughts and compare them to other people's. Thanks!


I think the plan had to be put into operation quicker than intended, hence the mistakes.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: backstager on September 03, 2010, 06:44:38 AM
I really don't understand why he would come back, but if he's alive its bound to happen. Either he'll get caught in public unintentionally or he'll make this huge scene giving the media a field day. I personally think Michael is seeking out the attention. I've always believed from day one that he enjoyed the attention from the press (minus the child molestation cases). I don't think it'll be THE comeback that some people are expecting, with the lights, stage, etc. But I do think he'll be found out. You can only hide but for so long-- especially if you're Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tusia6631 on September 03, 2010, 03:28:07 PM
Quote from: "backstager"
but if he's alive its bound to happen.
exactly!! he wouldn't hide for the rets of his life.. i hope so
Well, i think that when he would finally be back he would like to be in the spotlight. Why? to catch ppl's attention to the world's problems, to explain ppl why he did all the Hoax and togather his Army of Love with which he would change the world! ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Red_Rose on September 06, 2010, 11:41:14 AM
I didn't know where to put this... Do you think it's authentic?
http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/ ... 00-261.jpg (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10400000/See-you-2011-michael-jackson-10464095-400-261.jpg)
[attachment=0:230rfwzl]See-you-2011-michael-jackson-10464095-400-261.jpg[/attachment:230rfwzl]
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on September 12, 2010, 07:01:45 PM
Last night I had another dream about Michael's return from "the grave" if you will and it was a very vivid one at that. In the dream, I remember Michael was dressed as Dave Dave but he wasn't wearing the make-up or the fake hands.

In my dream he was on Larry King and he was wearing the same exact clothes that Dave Dave was wearing. It was a strange dream but I remember saying in the dream "MOM! MICHAEL'S BACK!"

He was discussing why he did what he did and what to expect from him in the future.

Like I said, it was a strange dream and deep down, deep down in my heart and soul I just KNOW he's alive. He has to be. There's no way Michael Jackson can die. I mean I know he's human and all, but come on, it's MICHAEL JACKSON! If 1993 and 2005 didn't kill him, surely some doctor wouldn't be able to get the job done. I truly believe that at some point we're going to get some resolution.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MissG on September 13, 2010, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
Last night I had another dream about Michael's return from "the grave" if you will and it was a very vivid one at that. In the dream, I remember Michael was dressed as Dave Dave but he wasn't wearing the make-up or the fake hands.

In my dream he was on Larry King and he was wearing the same exact clothes that Dave Dave was wearing. It was a strange dream but I remember saying in the dream "MOM! MICHAEL'S BACK!"

He was discussing why he did what he did and what to expect from him in the future.

Like I said, it was a strange dream and deep down, deep down in my heart and soul I just KNOW he's alive. He has to be. There's no way Michael Jackson can die. I mean I know he's human and all, but come on, it's MICHAEL JACKSON! If 1993 and 2005 didn't kill him, surely some doctor wouldn't be able to get the job done. I truly believe that at some point we're going to get some resolution.


viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12085 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=12085) ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Integrity on September 13, 2010, 07:31:37 PM
MICHAEL WILL RETURN IN OCTOBER! THIS MUST BE THE TIME!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MissG on September 13, 2010, 07:50:07 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bXe2qPtA6T0/TC_AEtyyj7I/AAAAAAAAADk/8a3Gk9qE868/s1600/o_rly.jpg)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: dejavu on September 14, 2010, 01:14:46 PM
Quote from: "Integrity"
MICHAEL WILL RETURN IN OCTOBER! THIS MUST BE THE TIME!

Gee thanks for ruining the surprise  :evil:

Next you're gonna tell us Santa aint real  :|
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on September 14, 2010, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: "dejavu"
Quote from: "Integrity"
MICHAEL WILL RETURN IN OCTOBER! THIS MUST BE THE TIME!

Gee thanks for ruining the surprise  :evil:

Next you're gonna tell us Santa aint real  :|

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MJsForever on September 17, 2010, 02:40:47 AM
Michael may not even look like Mike at this point. He has had time to rest and recover, but he has also had time to do whatever plastic surgery he wanted.... There is always the posibility he could have it done and move into a regular house in a regular neighborhood, and just live a regular life.... anyone know if the Jackson's have any new neighbors? LOL I am sure he would have moved close to the kids...
Kat
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on September 17, 2010, 11:24:58 AM
Quote from: "MJsForever"
Michael may not even look like Mike at this point. He has had time to rest and recover, but he has also had time to do whatever plastic surgery he wanted.... There is always the posibility he could have it done and move into a regular house in a regular neighborhood, and just live a regular life.... anyone know if the Jackson's have any new neighbors? LOL I am sure he would have moved close to the kids...
Kat

While that is an interesting theory, it would've been impossible for him to have more plastic surgery and no one recognize him or report it already. But you are right wherever he is he's had time to rest, recover, and what we know as Michael Jackson(should he return) could look healthier and unrecognizable to us.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: 6Bpeople on October 02, 2010, 10:45:54 AM
MJsForever wrote:
Michael may not even look like Mike at this point. He has had time to rest and recover, but he has also had time to do whatever plastic surgery he wanted.... There is always the posibility he could have it done and move into a regular house in a regular neighborhood, and just live a regular life.... anyone know if the Jackson's have any new neighbors? LOL I am sure he would have moved close to the kids...
Kat

While that is an interesting theory, it would've been impossible for him to have more plastic surgery and no one recognize him or report it already. But you are right wherever he is he's had time to rest, recover, and what we know as Michael Jackson(should he return) could look healthier and unrecognizable to us.TrueBeLIEver1981
 
quite interrsting in deed! But I'd like to be able to recognize MJ just to be sure to "follow" the right person. If MJ has to show us some kind of "Way" it will help !
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on October 03, 2010, 10:45:15 PM
How do we get people to see the truth? I try to explain to people that there is more proof suggesting that he's alive and not dead. People look at me like I'm crazy and that it's just a fantasy world that we're living in.

One thing I wanted to share is I was at Rite Aid and they had some MJ documentaries/cds that I purchased and the cashier looked at them, then looked at me and said "You know, there are people who believe he faked his death."

She was pretty attractive so I didn't want to go into a rant or get into a conversation that could make me look out there, so I asked her "Well, what do you think?"

She said "Well, I think he died. But I have been wrong before and I may be wrong now. Who knows."
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: suspicious mind on October 03, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
How do we get people to see the truth? I try to explain to people that there is more proof suggesting that he's alive and not dead. People look at me like I'm crazy and that it's just a fantasy world that we're living in.

One thing I wanted to share is I was at Rite Aid and they had some MJ documentaries/cds that I purchased and the cashier looked at them, then looked at me and said "You know, there are people who believe he faked his death."

She was pretty attractive so I didn't want to go into a rant or get into a conversation that could make me look out there, so I asked her "Well, what do you think?"

She said "Well, I think he died. But I have been wrong before and I may be wrong now. Who knows."

so what did you think of the documentaries?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on October 03, 2010, 10:58:06 PM
They're pretty interesting to say the least. However, I don't know what to believe when it comes to these documentaries. They're suggesting that it's crazy to think MJ would fake his death. One of the documentaries is called "What Killed The King of Pop?"
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 05, 2010, 07:32:30 PM
Hi all,

Here too, try to take a few good minutes and listen to Aphrodite's Jones interview
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7851714 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7851714)

She's also addressing the hoax issue at a certain point, but she is also speaking about her being inside the court at one of those Murray hearings, her standing behind Katherine, and LaToya, Janet & Rebbie and seeing them all crying and obviously suffering ... how would you explain that with a "hoax"?
About Messereau predicting back in 2009 that it will not come to a Murray trial before 2011 (he knows the system very well, guess you do not doubt that), etc.

Anyways, Michael had a bigger purpose with "This is it" - besides marking a fantastic come back (the O2 concerts would have been just the 1st part of it, they were supposed to be accompanied by other projects Michael was working on, like the Opus, a new Album maybe, that Ubisoft collaboration, Cirque du Soleil - you don't need to credit all these to the hoax, it is known he had initiated them long before June 25).
But he also wanted to remind the world about the problems we are facing, about the pain we are causing this planet by disregarding its very basic needs, about the pain we are causing ourselves by perpetrating hatred and discrimination, he wanted to attempt a wake-up call for many people and make them understand what's going on around them and help them realize that they CAN take their faith in their own hands and have to stop listening to politicians brainwashing them through their tool called "media", stop accepting being simple robots acting in a scenario written by a few ones pulling the real ropes, realizing that by opening yourself to the truth and letting love into your heart the whole perspective over life and why "are we here" will completely change. That there should be a better way to live our lives, and that we HAVE the POWER to CHANGE the direction to the better!

This is the message he wanted to give ... this was his message all along, people were just to deaf to listen to it ...

Stop looking for clues, focus on the message ...

I guess that's all we can still do ...

Our Mike seems to have had the same fate as Mr.V ... only that in Mr.V's case people DID wake up and made the change, as far as I can see it here, many are still obsessed with MJs music only and their OWN benefit (see entertainment) , and do not really care about anything beyond that ...

As harsh as it may sound, you have no idea how hurtfully true it is ...

Don't want to put anyone down, I wish so much Mike would be alive ...

Love
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tekamjforever on October 06, 2010, 03:12:14 AM
Quote from: "candy"
Hi all,

Here too, try to take a few good minutes and listen to Aphrodite's Jones interview
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7851714 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7851714)

She's also addressing the hoax issue at a certain point, but she is also speaking about her being inside the court at one of those Murray hearings, her standing behind Katherine, and LaToya, Janet & Rebbie and seeing them all crying and obviously suffering ... how would you explain that with a "hoax"?
About Messereau predicting back in 2009 that it will not come to a Murray trial before 2011 (he knows the system very well, guess you do not doubt that), etc.

Anyways, Michael had a bigger purpose with "This is it" - besides marking a fantastic come back (the O2 concerts would have been just the 1st part of it, they were supposed to be accompanied by other projects Michael was working on, like the Opus, a new Album maybe, that Ubisoft collaboration, Cirque du Soleil - you don't need to credit all these to the hoax, it is known he had initiated them long before June 25).
But he also wanted to remind the world about the problems we are facing, about the pain we are causing this planet by disregarding its very basic needs, about the pain we are causing ourselves by perpetrating hatred and discrimination, he wanted to attempt a wake-up call for many people and make them understand what's going on around them and help them realize that they CAN take their faith in their own hands and have to stop listening to politicians brainwashing them through their tool called "media", stop accepting being simple robots acting in a scenario written by a few ones pulling the real ropes, realizing that by opening yourself to the truth and letting love into your heart the whole perspective over life and why "are we here" will completely change. That there should be a better way to live our lives, and that we HAVE the POWER to CHANGE the direction to the better!

This is the message he wanted to give ... this was his message all along, people were just to deaf to listen to it ...

Stop looking for clues, focus on the message ...

I guess that's all we can still do ...

Our Mike seems to have had the same fate as Mr.V ... only that in Mr.V's case people DID wake up and made the change, as far as I can see it here, many are still obsessed with MJs music only and their OWN benefit (see entertainment) , and do not really care about anything beyond that ...

As harsh as it may sound, you have no idea how hurtfully true it is ...

Don't want to put anyone down, I wish so much Mike would be alive ...

Love

I think it makes much sense to me, although I admit that sometimes I indulge. I'm so afraid of being unfair to Michael, imagine or speculate that he might just disappear, with a fake death, planned or not, unlike all that he preached in most of his life and especially their messages of "alert" he proposed to take their shows "This Is It." And with each passing day, things are getting clearer, and my heart is torn apart by the force of the results of the pettiness of people who lived around him, especially some members of his family. I do not know what really happened to him, but something is not right that was only an "accidental" death by a negligent doctor or not. I also think that we will never know the truth, unfortunately, even if justice can enlighten us as to its true!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 06, 2010, 08:09:18 PM
Well, I would love him to have faked his death and be alive - I would not care less why he did it, as long as he's alive. Michael deserved to be loved and respected for the fantastic human being he was, instead of that he got back only sh* and the most inhuman treatment one can get!

I was following the TIAI in the beginning, there were some interesting things it was pointing to ... until they got stuck at that Elvis+MJ big BAM THIS summer ... That was the moment when for me it lost all credibility ... Sorry, but this is the most ridiculous story I have ever read. Even supposing Elvis would not have died than, he might be already dead by now from natural causes, and certainly not interested in a come back with 75! Cause if he "faked it" he obviously wanted "out"!

An other thing no one here seems to consider ...  Elvis was such a big critic of Scientology - would he be alive, would he have the heart to leave his only child in the greedy hands of these blood suckers? And expose his grandkids to become victims of the same sh*?

Elvis is gone, and there will be no Elvis comeback ... and I have the feeling that this Eliza story is a big fake.

Anyways, back to Mike ... that interview with Aphrodite Jones really broke me ... cause she was pointing out to "common sense" things that we, in our desperate wish to believe that Mike is still with us, are just blocking away, ignoring, or finding crazy clues to support complicated theories, playing around with numbers, etc.

Yes, there are a lot of things which are intentionally kept in the darkness (as NOBODY is telling the truth! nor the family, nor AEG, no-one!) a lot of details that do not fit and lots of shady characters involved.
But I would definitely not underestimate the huge (media) manipulation potential this conglomerate of AEG, Hollywood, SONY, groupM represent. Together, they just OWN the media. And they don't give a damn about MJ or the family or the fans or anyone ... just $$$ and influence. Would anyone be surprised if they would be pulling the ropes behind the "clues"?

And Branca striking the biggest deal in history with SONY!?? SONY !?!? It can only mean 2 things: MJ is either dead or in BIIIIG trouble ...

If MJ were to pull out a hoax the way as many here suggest - he should have had a bunch of people he could trust they'd not talk for 2-3-4 years ???
And as we all know ... he had NO ONE to trust! he said it and talked about it sooooo many times.
Only his mum, but she's 80 and not pulling the ropes behind any shows and marketing campaigns. And even she is manipulated and taken advantage of from Joe, big time ...

So if this is a hoax, I'd say that only very few people would be involved, very, very few.
And the hoax would most probably have a different meaning / reason as well ...

Big things are simple, not complicated. With all MJ's love for symbols & details, a story like many here suggest, just wouldn't make the cut ...

I just want the truth!  And I'd love people to try and question their own thinking, even if shakes the whole "work" they may feel they've invested so far in digging after those clues.

If MJ is alive and he run the whole thing the way it is suggested here, than I'll accept I was not "enlightened enough" to get it straight! Okay? And that I questioned, and doubted, and had people here get angry at me for nothing, etc.

But if he's not, and they have indeed killed him, than I want to KNOW who the damn criminals are, and want to see them behind bars! Cause it certainly goes far beyond any Murray ...
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: suspicious mind on October 06, 2010, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: "candy"
But if he's not, and they have indeed killed him, than I want to KNOW who the damn criminals are, and want to see them behind bars! Cause it certainly goes far beyond any Murray ...
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think you have one point we can all agree on
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on October 07, 2010, 05:47:06 AM
Yes but what do you make with the DNA evidence? Is it also fake? Are all the people involved in this case all part of a big hoax? It even brings us back to the Elvis hoax itself as they are linked, who organized it so much in advance to finally tied it into Michael's one so many years later? Really this would request a lot of work and thinking in advance.

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If MJ were to pull out a hoax the way as many here suggest - he should have had a bunch of people he could trust they'd not talk for 2-3-4 years ???

It's not impossible, thank God there are still people he can trust. Michael said it himself that most of his real friends are not necessarily "famous" people, we don't know who they are.

I personally am not in a desperate wish that Michael is still alive I first accepted his 'death' but force is to notice that nothing adds up in this story and this lead me here. I am not in 'denial'. Really.

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Big things are simple, not complicated. With all MJ's love for symbols & details, a story like many here suggest, just wouldn't make the cut ...

Errr.....I don't know it's not that simple too. Yes but it's one thing to know what are the symbols but it's another thing to understand what they represent all the more so if to understand them you need to connect the dots and be aware that dots have to be connected to understand them.

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But I would definitely not underestimate the huge (media) manipulation potential this conglomerate of AEG, Hollywood, SONY, groupM represent. Together, they just OWN the media. And they don't give a damn about MJ or the family or the fans or anyone ... just $$$ and influence. Would anyone be surprised if they would be pulling the ropes behind the "clues"?

You are very right to not underestimate the power of the media, it is huge. But by faking his death Michael is showing us how they manipulate things and how they finally "work". Don't forget that Michael also is powerful and surrounded himself with people who can help him pull this off. I don't see why they would be leaving us clues, I really don't see the logic here. If they are so powerful they would on the contrary make everything necessary to make us not even question Michael's death in the first place. I mean look what they (the controlled media) have done with 9/11. This is one of the most ridiculous theory they displayed on TV, really the official theory when put in words is just ridiculous and people just buy it. I also know that they want to control both sides of the story so we have to be vigilant.

But I ask you the question.  Why would the media (Michael's enemies) be leaving us clues?

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But if he's not, and they have indeed killed him, than I want to KNOW who the damn criminals are, and want to see them behind bars! Cause it certainly goes far beyond any Murray ...

If people indeed killed Michael then why did they left so many clues and hints telling us he's alive? What would be the point exactly? If they are so smart they just could have make it appear as a 'suicide" or something to that sort and not waste their time whith a bunch of 'believers'. They have just managed to attract our attention nothing that real criminals would do in my opinion. Note also that the family never said a thing against us and they would have done so if indeed your theory was true. I will not hint you to the numerology as you already said that you didn't buy it at all.

Hope all this makes some sense I was eating at the same time. :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: paula-c on October 07, 2010, 10:42:17 AM
With respect to Elvis, the return referred to the success that has Eliza in court, not a return as such, see Elvis walking down the streets as usual.
But the case of Eliza already has delayed the court, in the process and that is something that TS can not control. ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: anonJedi on October 07, 2010, 05:18:14 PM
I understand and share many of the frustrations some of you have expressed in this thread.  I also agree that the important thing to take from all of this is the message.  Dead or Alive, that is what MJ would have wanted from all of this.  Sometimes I break away from all of this because it’s honestly not productive and sometimes depressing to always be thinking and wondering and looking for clues.  One thing that I’ve learned about death from my own experiences is that in death, there are always unanswered questions and things that don’t make sense.  I think we owe it to ourselves to at least consider the possibility that he really did die and carry his message and spirit forward with us for the rest of our lives.  This is what he would have wanted.

Then again, everytime I watch the video of that funeral I just can’t swallow that any of that crap is real!!!!!!!!  Hahahaha!  

LOVE
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tekamjforever on October 08, 2010, 08:00:27 AM
Quote from: "candy"
Well, I would love him to have faked his death and be alive - I would not care less why he did it, as long as he's alive. Michael deserved to be loved and respected for the fantastic human being he was, instead of that he got back only sh* and the most inhuman treatment one can get!

I was following the TIAI in the beginning, there were some interesting things it was pointing to ... until they got stuck at that Elvis+MJ big BAM THIS summer ... That was the moment when for me it lost all credibility ... Sorry, but this is the most ridiculous story I have ever read. Even supposing Elvis would not have died than, he might be already dead by now from natural causes, and certainly not interested in a come back with 75! Cause if he "faked it" he obviously wanted "out"!

An other thing no one here seems to consider ...  Elvis was such a big critic of Scientology - would he be alive, would he have the heart to leave his only child in the greedy hands of these blood suckers? And expose his grandkids to become victims of the same sh*?

Elvis is gone, and there will be no Elvis comeback ... and I have the feeling that this Eliza story is a big fake.

Anyways, back to Mike ... that interview with Aphrodite Jones really broke me ... cause she was pointing out to "common sense" things that we, in our desperate wish to believe that Mike is still with us, are just blocking away, ignoring, or finding crazy clues to support complicated theories, playing around with numbers, etc.

Yes, there are a lot of things which are intentionally kept in the darkness (as NOBODY is telling the truth! nor the family, nor AEG, no-one!) a lot of details that do not fit and lots of shady characters involved.
But I would definitely not underestimate the huge (media) manipulation potential this conglomerate of AEG, Hollywood, SONY, groupM represent. Together, they just OWN the media. And they don't give a damn about MJ or the family or the fans or anyone ... just $$$ and influence. Would anyone be surprised if they would be pulling the ropes behind the "clues"?

And Branca striking the biggest deal in history with SONY!?? SONY !?!? It can only mean 2 things: MJ is either dead or in BIIIIG trouble ...

If MJ were to pull out a hoax the way as many here suggest - he should have had a bunch of people he could trust they'd not talk for 2-3-4 years ???
And as we all know ... he had NO ONE to trust! he said it and talked about it sooooo many times.
Only his mum, but she's 80 and not pulling the ropes behind any shows and marketing campaigns. And even she is manipulated and taken advantage of from Joe, big time ...

So if this is a hoax, I'd say that only very few people would be involved, very, very few.
And the hoax would most probably have a different meaning / reason as well ...

Big things are simple, not complicated. With all MJ's love for symbols & details, a story like many here suggest, just wouldn't make the cut ...

I just want the truth!  And I'd love people to try and question their own thinking, even if shakes the whole "work" they may feel they've invested so far in digging after those clues.

If MJ is alive and he run the whole thing the way it is suggested here, than I'll accept I was not "enlightened enough" to get it straight! Okay? And that I questioned, and doubted, and had people here get angry at me for nothing, etc.

But if he's not, and they have indeed killed him, than I want to KNOW who the damn criminals are, and want to see them behind bars! Cause it certainly goes far beyond any Murray ...

I appreciate your consistency and clarity, I repeat his words. 8-)  I would just add to the ridiculous and embarrassing episode Dave Dave. :(

PS: I can not understand why that is not included here, really, for a discussion and research, real problems, paupáveis around the life of MJ, they would be strongly "key" to the whole mystery and or the truth! Exermplo: a sudden and mysterious death of Peter Lopez and Evan Chandler, negotiations involving the AEG, Sony, Thome Thome, and all others, situção Neverland Ranch and Sony / ATV, the behavior of the family in search of money and fame , the removal of friends like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and everything else that requires a report every day, but we just ignore them?
:?  :?:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: suspicious mind on October 08, 2010, 08:14:21 AM
PS: I can not understand why that is not included here, really, for a discussion and research, real problems, paupáveis around the life of MJ, they would be strongly "key" to the whole mystery and or the truth! Exermplo: a sudden and mysterious death of Peter Lopez and Evan Chandler, negotiations involving the AEG, Sony, Thome Thome, and all others, situção Neverland Ranch and Sony / ATV, the behavior of the family in search of money and fame , the removal of friends like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and everything else that requires a report every day, but we just ignore them?[/b] :?  :?:[/quote]

these things certainly do seem to have taken a back seat to some unusual theries.

i sometimes even wonder if some of these unusual theries didn't emerge just about the time questions about the deaths were and should have been fresh in our minds :?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 08, 2010, 03:53:15 PM
well ... and what if ... they (AEG, SONY & Co) murdered Michael and all the others (family included) KNOW it but are either to afraid for their own lives to say the real thing or have long sold their souls to the devil they consider inevitable anyways?

Not in vain was Michael repeatedly saying he was afraid for his life .. that was in no connection with any hoax, what happened in 2005 was just the "pre-taste" of what they could have done to "finish" him. Was just them "showing" their muscles ... You think he did not understand that? Of course he did ... and he knew they were after him.

Was not just the catalog, that was an important part but what bothered them most I guess was MJ's immense popularity and influence. And the fact that he was not "keeping his mouth shut" and was challenging them all over the place.

We've all heard MJ talking about his feelings and fear of Thome Thome. The guy was fired by MJ and right away hired by AEG, so that he's still present at O2? What the heck? And now wants % from the TII revenue? And what's Jermaine involvement in all this? And where's the TT guy? He was employed by AEG, so at least PHillips should know where this shady character is hiding. Why is no one asking him questions? Not even Larry King managed to get that interview with him ...

You all say family, family ... MJ loved them cause they were family, but this does not mean they were so close as many here seem to take for granted. And what do we see now? ALL of them suddenly "relaunching" their careers, singing MJs songs, organizing tributes - all with MJ's name stamped on it. To me that's ... suspicious ...

Now, to all those who ask "why would they be leaving us clues" ... well, I actually don't think they do.
Many of the so-called clues are just an interpretation of confusing or missing pieces of information.
Why is it kept confusing should you ask ... well, maybe because no-body has an interest in telling the truth?
Besides, keeping things unclear keeps the business going, isn't it? So "they" are sort of pushing a double agenda, as no matter which side you are on (hoax or crime) you will not have a satisfactory amount of credible information anyways. Maintaining confusion is a very well known method of mass manipulation.

The family members are "leaving clues"? Well, a confusing situation works for them too, so ....
(as for many of the so-called clues showed here, like that tweet from Janet or so, they were simply taken out of context ...)

Can it be that the family is "in the hoax"? I do not have enough information to say yes or no, so for now this remains an open subject ...

And you know, even TII ... now if MJ is alive, it obviously has a certain very special meaning. If he's dead, an other. Ortega is on AEGs payroll, and he's done what the bosses said. So if they wanted to make a film with double meaning (see "maintaining confusion" above) they just instructed KO to do so.
If MJ is dead, than the movie was solely directed by AEG + KO, so it can also be that it was deliberately made that way just to spread confusion further.

These are just "other possibilities", an in no way the truth.
I keep digging :-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 08, 2010, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Yes but what do you make with the DNA evidence? Is it also fake? Are all the people involved in this case all part of a big hoax? It even brings us back to the Elvis hoax itself as they are linked, who organized it so much in advance to finally tied it into Michael's one so many years later? Really this would request a lot of work and thinking in advance.
I just don't get it - how can you possibly come to such an idea, that Elvis & MJ worked together to organize their hoaxes!??! Come on ...

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It's not impossible, thank God there are still people he can trust. Michael said it himself that most of his real friends are not necessarily "famous" people, we don't know who they are.
Well, that's not what've heard him saying (many times) ... If they are not famous, than they don't have the "power" either ... :-(

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I mean look what they (the controlled media) have done with 9/11. This is one of the most ridiculous theory they displayed on TV, really the official theory when put in words is just ridiculous and people just buy it. I also know that they want to control both sides of the story so we have to be vigilant.
That did only seem to have happened in America ... the rest of the World is questioning it ever since 2001

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But I ask you the question.  Why would the media (Michael's enemies) be leaving us clues?
They aren't leaving any clues ... it's an illusion ... they do also go both ways, cause it serves their interest of gaining audience

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If they are so smart they just could have make it appear as a 'suicide" or something to that sort and not waste their time whith a bunch of 'believers'.  

They do NOT waste their time, the believers are an important part of the game.

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They have just managed to attract our attention nothing that real criminals would do in my opinion. Note also that the family never said a thing against us and they would have done so if indeed your theory was true. I will not hint you to the numerology as you already said that you didn't buy it at all.
All in the same boat? maintaining confusion is the best way to keep the business rolling ...
Although I think Randy mentioned once that it hurts him to read of people pretending they saw Michael and things like that.
As for the criminals ... well, we don't have much more on that either, do we? Murray "darling" is still cheerfully vacationing in Miami and AEG is dreaming of a TII 2 ...

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Hope all this makes some sense I was eating at the same time. :D
Hope it did taste good :-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MissG on October 08, 2010, 04:53:56 PM
@Candy, I understand all of your points of views and scenarios, I do. The same questions came to me when I started getting confused, since those questions are the most common that can pop up knowing that MJ had fear for his life and knowing that some leeches were after his $$ as well as kowing about the haters trying to destroy him and his career and life.

I believe that we must keep the door open for every possibility, but up to know, I think that MJ is alive, so all the possible murder scenarios are not in my agenda.

Also, this forum has gathered not only "investigators" with a critical mind, has also gathered people going with the gut feeling.

Even if we can be dubious at times, let´s think about what is the most palusible situation regarding Michael Jackson.

I refuse to accept that:
A) He took an overdose
B) He has been murdered
C) He is kidnapped....and many other theories.

To me, up to today, he is alive, and not only because the case does not make sense, it is also because I can "feel it", IDK how to explain this.

Who knows! May be his energy was so inmense that the world still feel his presence, his essence as alive and may be he is not, but, I repeat, I think that things are easier than seeing conspiracies to murder him for the sake of it, or his money.

He was a great entertainer and even his "dead" is full of mystery and entertainment (no disrespect intended).

I think that we are participating in the chronicles of MJ´s death....
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on October 08, 2010, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: "candy"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Yes but what do you make with the DNA evidence? Is it also fake? Are all the people involved in this case all part of a big hoax? It even brings us back to the Elvis hoax itself as they are linked, who organized it so much in advance to finally tied it into Michael's one so many years later? Really this would request a lot of work and thinking in advance.
I just don't get it - how can you possibly come to such an idea, that Elvis & MJ worked together to organize their hoaxes!??! Come on ...

I think that you have misunderstood me I said quite the opposite :D I may have not expressed myself properly. I meant that Elvis' hoax is really a hoax because of the DNA sample Eliza has provided. Do you think it is fake? If you think so then you must think that Eliza is a fake and that it is all part of a bigger plan, because Elvis' hoax is tied into Michael's hoax, be it by the enemy or Michael depending on your point of view (the enemy I presume  :D ). So considering that fact and according to your perspective Elvis' hoax must have been engineered by the enemy on purpose prior Michael's hoax so that they would be able to use it now to mislead us. They would have then hired a woman to play the fake half-sister of Elvis and provide fake DNA evidence in front of a corrupted court....all that to mislead a bunch of beLIEvers of course.
 My english is maybe off sorry doing my best hope you get my point and I was talking with my mom at the same time... :lol:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 08, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Yes but what do you make with the DNA evidence? Is it also fake? Are all the people involved in this case all part of a big hoax? It even brings us back to the Elvis hoax itself as they are linked, who organized it so much in advance to finally tied it into Michael's one so many years later? Really this would request a lot of work and thinking in advance.

See, you already found an explanation to suit your theory, even before I answered ...
As for this Eliza, well, I am suspicios ... why wait so long !?!?! Anyway, let's give the lady the benefit of the doubt ... she just wants to know if Vernon was her dad (which her mum apparently once denied ... hmmm)
To provide a DNA sample is not such a big deal, so many items left from Elvis ... some hair samples too, I am sure ..
Lisa can provide a sample if she wants too ... etc.

But let's assume now this Eliza is Elvis half-sis, ok, what does she have to do with MJ?
If you believe the theory, does it mean we'll have to wait 30 years for a presumable MJ half sister to claim Joe's paternity by providing MJ DNA samples collected from his "late" pajamas and accidentally prove by the occasion that MJ was well and alive all along? Huh?

I don't believe in an Elvis hoax ... :-(
Soooooory ... :-(
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 08, 2010, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
I refuse to accept that:
A) He took an overdose
B) He has been murdered
C) He is kidnapped....and many other theories.

A) I don't believe he's done that to himself either, although Murray's very employment makes me wonder ... On the other hand, we all know he was under high stress and suffering from lupus, which is a cause of chronic insomnia (unfortunately ... but that's the way it is). Ad to this the fact that MJ was so emaciated (you could almost see through him in TII) .. well ... that was definitely not the luckiest of all combinations
B) not so sure about that ... MJ had many BIG enemies, and it went far beyond Sony ...
C) ehh ... no, that I do no believe either

:-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on October 08, 2010, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: "candy"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Yes but what do you make with the DNA evidence? Is it also fake? Are all the people involved in this case all part of a big hoax? It even brings us back to the Elvis hoax itself as they are linked, who organized it so much in advance to finally tied it into Michael's one so many years later? Really this would request a lot of work and thinking in advance.

See, you already found an explanation to suit your theory, even before I answered ...
As for this Eliza, well, I am suspicios ... why wait so long !?!?! Anyway, let's give the lady the benefit of the doubt ... she just wants to know if Vernon was her dad (which her mum apparently once denied ... hmmm)
To provide a DNA sample is not such a big deal, so many items left from Elvis ... some hair samples too, I am sure ..
Lisa can provide a sample if she wants too ... etc.

But let's assume now this Eliza is Elvis half-sis, ok, what does she have to do with MJ?
If you believe the theory, does it mean we'll have to wait 30 years for a presumable MJ half sister to claim Joe's paternity by providing MJ DNA samples collected from his "late" pajamas and accidentally prove by the occasion that MJ was well and alive all along? Huh?

I don't believe in an Elvis hoax ... :-(
Soooooory ... :-(

If Elvis really died way before how is it that they said that the DNA was recent and that Elvis had to be alive? All liars...
For some reason Michael inspired himself from this Elvis' hoax and we saw the striking similarities already (see Elvis and MJ thread).

What about that... :lol:  I don't understand where you're going. Michael's hoax is not a plagia of Elvis' one or a remake...
It happens that Eliza is Elvis half-sister and discovers it just now thanks to a divine plan. Yes.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 08, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
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It happens that Eliza is Elvis half-sister and discovers it just now thanks to a divine plan. Yes.

Wrong ... she first sued in 2008 ... so she "discovered" it for quite a while ...
What you understand by "recent"? Sure it is recent, they do DNA recovery for dynos and ancient mummies; compared to that a 30 y.o. sample is "very recent".
And how does it prove it's from Elvis? Maybe she found a long forgotten cousin or so to provide for the sample !??!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on October 08, 2010, 07:47:12 PM
8-)
So I have left this 14 page thread alone all this time. Not once have I read this until today.

I started at the last page and low and behold another conversation after 15 going on 16 months of wondering what happened to Michael, some members who signed up way before me are still in doubt over whether he is alive or dead.

One thing that stands out to me every single time a member comes along and expresses fear and doubt is that they have been registered for a while, meaning like somewhere last year...and they still are stuck at the Is Michael alive stage?.

There is so much evidence to prove he is alive, it boggles my mind when long ago members come around to stir up muck.  :?

It gives me the impression that the ones who do the most weeping over whether he is alive or not are the very ones who haven't really looked into his "death" and why oh why all this evidence suggests he is alive don't the doubters ever show us proof he is dead?

When someone asks us to really stop and think if it could be possible he died, lol
Well I would think that this forum full of threads shredding every part of Michael's life apart would show we have stopped to consider ALL possibilities, even death.

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Did MJ Plan the Elvis Parallels?

And speaking of MJ planning intentional parallels with the Elvis “death”: although some responded very positively to http://www.ElvisAndMJ.com (http://www.ElvisAndMJ.com), and the Elvis/Eliza developments, unfortunately many others did not.

There are millions and millions of MJ fans; that is, if you are referring to people who are fans of MJ’s music. But far less people are fans of MJ the person! And if you are a fan of MJ himself, not just his music: the only question should be whether the Elvis connections were planned by MJ, or coincidence. If planned, then you should not go against what he himself planned (unless you’re just an MJ music fan).

How is it that this is possible?
Where are those die hard "fans"?
The multitudes of users here on the forum from when I signed up are GONE...vanished.

I observe and have noticed a handful of us still keeping the coarse in this investigation.

I won't roll call all those who have stuck it out through thick and thin, you know who you are, ;)  and it hasn't gone unnoticed by me and I am sure it hasn't gone unnoticed from MJ himself, who is really there for him.

"Whatever happens don't let go of his hand".
Peace
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: paula-c on October 08, 2010, 09:02:31 PM
Well said Im_convincedmjalive, here I am and continue until the final here against all odds ;)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: MashMike on October 09, 2010, 02:14:13 AM
Im_convincedmjalive Amen to your post, nth more to add :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on October 09, 2010, 05:37:27 AM
Quote from: "candy"
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It happens that Eliza is Elvis half-sister and discovers it just now thanks to a divine plan. Yes.

Wrong ... she first sued in 2008 ... so she "discovered" it for quite a while ...
What you understand by "recent"? Sure it is recent, they do DNA recovery for dynos and ancient mummies; compared to that a 30 y.o. sample is "very recent".
And how does it prove it's from Elvis? Maybe she found a long forgotten cousin or so to provide for the sample !??!

 :lol:  I love you candy  :D  Yes but there is a difference even between a DNA sample dating from 30 years ago and one from 15 minutes...Also about the cousin thing the DNA can tell precisely which link there is between the extended family and there is a difference between being a cousin or a half-sister, the DNA "matches" more. I mean that DNA is so unique, each individual has a specific "code" so the more it matches between two persons the more they are "close", the more we can see what link they have. Sorry didn't know how to say that otherwise, hope it's clear  :D  

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Wrong ... she first sued in 2008 ... so she "discovered" it for quite a while ...

Yes but take into account the day she began to look for who was her father...it took quite some time before she finds out and 2008 is not that long from now, seems very calculated...that's why I was talking about a divine plan because who else can plan such a thing. The only fact that Elvis can have a half sister is "incredible". God is The Best Schemer and nothing is possible without God's help.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 09, 2010, 07:05:51 AM
So apropos investigation ... what do you think is the reason of Katherine suddenly suing AEG and including Kenny Ortega on the list as well ?

I am sure you'll find something like "well, it's just an other clue to prove the hoax" ...
Is it? Really?

You guys are 100% convinced that AEG and R.Philipps and Thome Thome are the good guys, working with Michael on an elaborated hoax. But what if it's not so?

Why would anyone here assume that Katherine is lying?

So if AEG really cornered Michael, how can they possibly be in the hoax?!??!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: candy on October 09, 2010, 07:14:47 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Yes but take into account the day she began to look for who was her father...it took quite some time before she finds out and 2008 is not that long from now, seems very calculated...that's why I was talking about a divine plan because who else can plan such a thing. The only fact that Elvis can have a half sister is "incredible". God is The Best Schemer and nothing is possible without God's help.

Seems to have been very incredible to Eliza's mother as well, as she said the kid is not Vernon's ...
Well, so in order to support your theory, you now MUST assume the lady was messing around with few guys in the same time, right ?!?! Poor lady ....

In order to prove that DNA is from Elvis, you need to "cross"-test it most probably against Lisa's ...
And she's not obliged to agree :-)

And hey, who knows, maybe that Mocienne is Mike's doughter too :-)
She was also seeking for a DNA test :-)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: tekamjforever on October 09, 2010, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: "candy"

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If they are so smart they just could have make it appear as a 'suicide" or something to that sort and not waste their time whith a bunch of 'believers'.  

They do NOT waste their time, the believers are an important part of the game.

And they introduced Pearl Jr., too ..
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on October 09, 2010, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: "candy"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Yes but take into account the day she began to look for who was her father...it took quite some time before she finds out and 2008 is not that long from now, seems very calculated...that's why I was talking about a divine plan because who else can plan such a thing. The only fact that Elvis can have a half sister is "incredible". God is The Best Schemer and nothing is possible without God's help.

Seems to have been very incredible to Eliza's mother as well, as she said the kid is not Vernon's ...
Well, so in order to support your theory, you now MUST assume the lady was messing around with few guys in the same time, right ?!?! Poor lady ....

In order to prove that DNA is from Elvis, you need to "cross"-test it most probably against Lisa's ...
And she's not obliged to agree :-)


And hey, who knows, maybe that Mocienne is Mike's doughter too :-)
She was also seeking for a DNA test :-)

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Well, so in order to support your theory, you now MUST assume the lady was messing around with few guys in the same time, right ?!?! Poor lady ....
I don't know how it happened and it may be the reason why she doesn't want to talk about it, to admit it...

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In order to prove that DNA is from Elvis, you need to "cross"-test it most probably against Lisa's ...
And she's not obliged to agree :-)
You can do it with Lisa Marie Presley, she is Elvis' daughter, she already could have provided DNA samples to refute Eliza's claim and make it a case closed, but she didn't. Why?

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And hey, who knows, maybe that Mocienne is Mike's doughter too :-)
She was also seeking for a DNA test :-)
:D  
Regarding Mocienne it happens that her claim has been rejected, she's begging for a second chance but she has not provided DNA and her evidence are tapes where Michael supposedly claimed publicly that she was his daughter...very credible compared to DNA...but we are still waiting for what is coming next with that.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on October 23, 2010, 02:25:47 PM
Didn't Prince pull a death hoax at one point? I remember him "shocking the world" when he announced the death of Prince and then returned under a new name? So why are people so hellbent on believing Michael didn't fake his death?

Does the media have this much power over the minds of people or do people want to believe they KNOW everything?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: pillekelille on October 29, 2010, 11:14:46 AM
Very well said.  ;)  I'm really interested why he did it too.. and.. can you even imagine how big is this hoax? So many companies (AEG, Sony, Coca-Cola and more..) AND even TMZ.com. Wake up.. THIS IS SO BIG  :!:  I don't really care if he's coming back. But IF he does then all the media will collapse ;) And I hope that some day we will know why he did all this :)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: thepeacock2012 on October 29, 2010, 08:52:29 PM
Quote from: "pillekelille"
Very well said.  ;)  I'm really interested why he did it too.. and.. can you even imagine how big is this hoax? So many companies (AEG, Sony, Coca-Cola and more..) AND even TMZ.com. Wake up.. THIS IS SO BIG  :!:  I don't really care if he's coming back. But IF he does then all the media will collapse ;) And I hope that some day we will know why he did all this :)
Not to mention all the film companys and T.V shows that somehow are involved with Mike...you are right when you say this is soooo big...its couldn't possibly be bigger :D
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: marte on November 06, 2010, 08:14:17 AM
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4048/3elements.jpg)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on November 06, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: "marte"
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4048/3elements.jpg)

Oh my Gosh! That's DEFINITELY intentional. BAM... :o
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Sarahli on November 06, 2010, 12:55:13 PM
This is so great!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Its her on November 06, 2010, 04:43:45 PM
@ Candy
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If MJ were to pull out a hoax the way as many here suggest - he should have had a bunch of people he could trust they'd not talk for 2-3-4 years ???

There are ways to make people become trustworthy; especially if one is as powerful  8-) as Michael GodFather Jackson...

It is PURELY business; he's not depending on peoples' fickle favor.

THIS thing can't go wrong.

He (that smokin' GENIUS) has already positioned enough psychological tar and feathers, discredit and doubt, just like the bucket of blood in the movie "Carrie", to immediately fall on and cover any squealing stool-pigeons, who threaten to spill secrets or let this SENSATIONAL cat out of the bag, NO one wants to be THAT  :oops: fool. :lol: And he already has a winning (Aaawww... ;) ) excuse for his loved ones' slip ups, no matter how young or old.

I am certain he knows and wields the power of the carrot and the stick with finesse (sweet Grace and undeniable Intimidation ;) ). If they didn't like the baubles and dubloons, perhaps he's simply made the inner-circle-people "an offer they can't refuse".... :lol:
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on November 11, 2010, 10:48:27 AM
I am having more dreams about Michael as of late and it's always regarding him coming back. This dream was a lot more vivid and felt very real than my previous dream of him revealing the hoax.

In this particular dream I was at home and then lo and behold a new Michael video comes on the television, he is revealing new dance moves, and it was almost as if it was a new version of They Don't Care About Us. He has the short hairstyle again that we saw in YANA video, They Don't Care About Us, and etc.

In the dream I turned to my mom and said "This is the third thing I've been right about. I knew he wasn't dead."

Also I must say that it felt REAL. It was almost as if I was controlling the dream and I remember being so happy, excited, and shocked that I was trying to pick up my phone so I could text those who didn't believe me or thought I was crazy. When I woke up I was looking around and remembered the exact details of the dream. I mean, it felt so real and lifelike.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Tinylady63 on November 20, 2010, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: "MJalive999"
8:27 ;)


how many of you rly know why he did it?
how many of you believe (OR READ) TIAI??
He is alive, we don't need more videos about it!
This is not a question of ''i love mj'' this is a question of FAITH!
MJ is a gift  from God. He is here for something more important than you can imagine!
I get sick when i see believers losing faith ... for nothing!
Or you believe or not!
True fans believe! They never change their opinion!
We need to know WHY he did it!
The real purpose of the HOAX!
if you only care about when he will come back and not why he did it...
i am sorry.. you will ruin his return. If he never return ... will be your guilt.... ignorance, lazzines and selfishness can not ruin this shout of FREEDOM!

wake up, guys!
this is more than a HOAX or a RETURN!


I believe Michael has completed the mission he set out to finish. This site! All of us from different cultures, backgrounds, races, we are all united together as one. Isn't this what Michael wanted, Unity? Should we ask WHY? We shouldn't.......We all do things WE WANT TO DO he is no different, he is one of us.

Wow, I do believe he some where, out there....... In my opinion, he wanted to live a normal life, tired of all the BS the news wrote about him, maybe even searching for love. Who wants to be alone? Maybe he wanted to make a change..... Whatever his reasons then we should respect them.

I've never followed his career, but did read all the negative press and brushed it off, I did research on Michael, this gentleman was gifted, and cared about everyone, all the charities he contributed too, none of this was published, what a shame, the good things about him were never mentioned.

I keep him safe in my heart and in my dreams, believe in your dreams, never let go of them, one day they will come true, I know my dreams will.
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: Tinylady63 on November 20, 2010, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
I am having more dreams about Michael as of late and it's always regarding him coming back. This dream was a lot more vivid and felt very real than my previous dream of him revealing the hoax.

In this particular dream I was at home and then lo and behold a new Michael video comes on the television, he is revealing new dance moves, and it was almost as if it was a new version of They Don't Care About Us. He has the short hairstyle again that we saw in YANA video, They Don't Care About Us, and etc.

In the dream I turned to my mom and said "This is the third thing I've been right about. I knew he wasn't dead."

Also I must say that it felt REAL. It was almost as if I was controlling the dream and I remember being so happy, excited, and shocked that I was trying to pick up my phone so I could text those who didn't believe me or thought I was crazy. When I woke up I was looking around and remembered the exact details of the dream. I mean, it felt so real and lifelike.


I guess I'm not the only one........... I had a dream about a white van, before the video even appeared on You Tube.......Loads of dreams with Michael, I don't understand some of the messages, but it's all good. Dreams are there for us to believe in,.... Believe in them!
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: marte on November 22, 2010, 10:16:49 AM
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Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: TrueBeLIEver1981 on November 29, 2010, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: "Tinylady63"
Quote from: "TrueBeLIEver1981"
I am having more dreams about Michael as of late and it's always regarding him coming back. This dream was a lot more vivid and felt very real than my previous dream of him revealing the hoax.

In this particular dream I was at home and then lo and behold a new Michael video comes on the television, he is revealing new dance moves, and it was almost as if it was a new version of They Don't Care About Us. He has the short hairstyle again that we saw in YANA video, They Don't Care About Us, and etc.

In the dream I turned to my mom and said "This is the third thing I've been right about. I knew he wasn't dead."

Also I must say that it felt REAL. It was almost as if I was controlling the dream and I remember being so happy, excited, and shocked that I was trying to pick up my phone so I could text those who didn't believe me or thought I was crazy. When I woke up I was looking around and remembered the exact details of the dream. I mean, it felt so real and lifelike.


I guess I'm not the only one........... I had a dream about a white van, before the video even appeared on You Tube.......Loads of dreams with Michael, I don't understand some of the messages, but it's all good. Dreams are there for us to believe in,.... Believe in them!

If we're right in our theories, what would you do those who ridicule the possibility that MJ is alive?
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: gwynned on January 13, 2011, 10:26:11 PM
Kanye West at the Superbowl

Okay, it's a crazy idea, but why does he ask Kanye 'are you still alive?'  Remember that Kanye ALSO has a song called Monster and his album has a crown on it like Michael's.  Is Kanye a 'stand in' for Michael?

Notice reference to Janet's 'caboose.'  No offense, Janet.  But is she the caboose on the runaway train?  

I've heard BEP will be there and we know the connection to Will.i.am.....

Just a thought.  In anycase, this is pretty funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NfpzQkZWPE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NfpzQkZWPE)
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: OneLove on January 15, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
I missed the video! It doesn't work! What was it? LOL
Title: Re: BAM! HE IS 'BACK'!
Post by: gwynned on January 15, 2011, 11:17:31 PM
The video works for me!
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