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Hoax Theories => Michael's Reasons to hoax his death => Topic started by: letstalkagain on January 09, 2010, 11:29:13 AM

Title: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: letstalkagain on January 09, 2010, 11:29:13 AM
I believe Michael will come back only after all of his debts and lawsuits have been settled and he is no longer debt ridden.  Even if he did this hoax for some other reason, he is now noticing just how much money he can generate when he is supposedly dead.  Why come back early and cut the money in half ?  Why not wait until everything is paid including all lawsuits ?  Wait until your general ledger reads black.  To come back any earlier to me would be somewhat foolish.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: Grenat on January 09, 2010, 11:33:44 AM
But if he do that , won't it increase bad opinions about him ?
I think that lot of people will be very upset if he come back , they were fooled
If he wait until everything is settled financially it'll get worse ,
People'll have the impression that he was only motivated for money
Wich is probably not the case here , at least it's not the principal reason he did this I think.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: Alem (Thetruth) on January 09, 2010, 11:39:03 AM
Michael never had any depts, and if he did then that is already settled with months ago.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: Grenat on January 09, 2010, 11:48:10 AM
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Michael never had any depts, and if he did then that is already settled with months ago.

I hope everyone will be as understanding as you..we've witnessed so much injustice toward Michael , and most of time it was just because of misunderstanding and lying of the media
This time they'll have to choose : seek the truth or believe blindly the media
I choose my side already , we've choose our sides already, what about the other people ?
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: Suzy on January 09, 2010, 11:54:29 AM
I have and always will be on Michaels side.And a lot of other people also.He must be alive and strong Imiss him sooo very mutch.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: MJsAngelEyes1987 on January 09, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
I will always believe Michael & will stand by him! Nothing will change that whatsoever.
As far as media concerns me, Nope, Nada!!! They're just a bunch of crazy people & they were simply trying to destroy Michael which is just plain wrong, sad, & pathetic.
It really breaks my heart when they've made up untrue stories about Michael, like he said in his autobiography Moonwalk.
I cant' believe that's all the media does and people find out & then they believe all that junk!
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: mumof3 on January 09, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
I dont believe Michael was in debt I feel it was all for another reason
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: letstalkagain on January 09, 2010, 02:50:09 PM
Michael probaly did go away for another reason other than money.  But what I am saying is why not kill two birds with one stone.  For instance if he went away for safety reasons, he still could come back after all has been cleared,(monetarily) and give a statement as to why he was forced to go.  Because if he really was in debt for $400 million, and the concert in London was only to give him at the most (per reports)
$100 million.  He would have to work like a dog just to get up on his feet.  So again why not kill two birds with one stone.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: MJLover1990 on January 09, 2010, 06:09:47 PM
I don't believe Michael was ever in any debt.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on January 09, 2010, 11:42:00 PM
Quote from: "Grenat"
But if he do that , won't it increase bad opinions about him ?
I think that lot of people will be very upset if he come back , they were fooled
If he wait until everything is settled financially it'll get worse ,
People'll have the impression that he was only motivated for money
Wich is probably not the case here , at least it's not the principal reason he did this I think.

 :roll:  :roll:
Any body that really loves him will stand by him what ever his reasons were , but I believe and a lot of his fans feel he did it because his life was in danger.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: MJsAngelEyes1987 on January 09, 2010, 11:51:14 PM
Quote from: "LOVEYOUMORE"
:roll:  :roll:
Any body that really loves him will stand by him what ever his reasons were , but I believe and a lot of his fans feel he did it because his life was in danger.

Wow! You just took the words right outta my mouth right there :D
Well said indeed! :) I agree with you.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: Ciagone on January 15, 2010, 07:03:20 PM
... we understand WHY he did it. He said it's - ALL 4 L.O.V.E -
That's why I do not beLIEve MJ did it for money! He said something like the love of money corrupts the character (old wisdom, isn't it?). If he would have done it (only) for that reason I would be VERY disappointed 1. about my bad of knowledge of human nature (of thinking I would know him a little bit) 2. about his character. For what I have heard what a savy business he was/is I doubt the he had debts too but I cannot say for sure - how could I, I'm not his bank account ;)
I do think that he is one of the few geniuses walking this planet at the moment and trying to find way through his art to make ppl AWARE and AWAKE them from their "mainstream-media-infused-coma" (good news to them doesn't sell, right? RIGHT!)
AWAER of WHAT? I always used to believe that there are things going on "behind the curtain" (conspiracy) and we are the naive sheep thinking the ones above us (politicians etc.) are taking good care of. Instead there are some who do not follow the path of love but egoism. Mo and Souza found some very interesting things regarding this. Thank you both for all the time and nerves you have invested so far and still do. Since love is free will we ca only show what we see is the truth as we see it but we cannot make anyone open their eyes and hearts to SEE it and thus not believe it.
The government won't do anything! It is WE who must take action (he said and i think so, too)! There are many organizations like Amnesty, greenpeace, red cross etc. - so how can I feel unable because I think "I'm only one, what can I do"? But together we are strong. We need to make changes in ourselves: in what we believe, what we eat, think, say, do, envision, read and so on. We need to strive for the highest ideals we can imagine and 'never give up, no matter what'! Sorry for the long post but I needed to say that.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: neverlandprincess on January 15, 2010, 07:16:55 PM
A fellow believer has looked into things and only can find that you will get into trouble for faking your death if you proffit from it. Now obviously his estate has made bookoos of money since June25th...however if it has been noticed,the tributes have been canceled. Tribute magazines made money for themselves.
 I dont think he was really in debt -I do think people have tried to stake claim where they had none-as always.I dont think he did it for money,no more than if I thought he were dead I would say "greed killed him". I dont think(you can all murder the mod now) he did it for L.O,V.E. ...every time he said "its all for love" in TII,it wa when he was correcting someone. I think there were serious reasons -life or death reasons. I truly believe that,he changed his life-he died",If he comes back then that has to be in the clear and the truth will probably have to be brought forth before his return,so that it wont be an immediate backlash. JMO
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: imperfect_symmetry on January 15, 2010, 10:37:18 PM
I believe that Michael will come back only when...

...we are all ready.
 :)
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 15, 2010, 10:39:50 PM
Do you really believe it's about money?

Mike will come back when people are able to open their eyes and see his message. As long as that doesn't happen, I don't think he will be back soon...
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: PinkTopaz on January 16, 2010, 01:32:45 AM
^ Oh, please don't say that! I think we should all Keep the Faith- we can do it! IMO we have enough evidence that he's alive, we shouldn't waste any more time on that. We should only focus on spreading his message!
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: angel on January 31, 2010, 01:23:05 PM
I can't say with any certainty why he hoaxed his death, but I can look at the results.  One in particular is that it has changed many people's perception of him.  They can see clearly now his innocence, all the facts have been brought out in the open, and this couldn't have happened if he was still "alive".  In my own experience, I know if anyone had ever misjudged me or thought I had done something wrong that I knew was untrue, I couldn't live in peace knowing I was thought of that way.  The hoax has been like a light shining into a dark room.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 31, 2010, 03:20:33 PM
I feel that AEG duped MJ into believing he was so indedted that he HAD to do 50 shows to get out of it.  I also believe that this was a willful attempt to ruin Michael by signing him up for more shows than THEY EVEN THOUGHT he could do, thus breaking his contract, them suing him for breach, and Michael losing his catalogs.  Of course, Michael figured out in a hurry what they were up to, but after signing on to do them, a man of his word and not one to disappoint his fans, he was going to try.  I am sure he would have succeeded had not something beyond his control happened to change the course of HIStory.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: Sarahli on January 31, 2010, 03:32:08 PM
We don't know if these debts are serious. We cannot believe TMZ and other medias. Don't forget that some people to get some money are capable of inventing false debts with fake documents. I don't think that all these debts are for real. A comeback won't depend on that. And as I see the more money he has the more they are debts appearing.

If Michael returns maybe some people will understand that he doesn't belong to them. That he is a free man and that his privacy has to be respected like everyone of us would want it to be. Thoug I don't think that Michael hoaxed his death for that reason. It could just possibly be a side effect.

Edit: Don't forget that this hoax really seems to have been in Michael's mind from a long time ago. I don't think it had been made in a hurry. Just listen to his songs. "This is it" was obviously a movie from the very start so it had to be prepared months before not in the last minutes to escape a supposed murder attempt. We are certainly part of it and all this just make me think of a russian dolls game.

God bless you.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: mmz on January 31, 2010, 03:40:09 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Do you really believe it's about money?

Mike will come back when people are able to open their eyes and see his message. As long as that doesn't happen, I don't think he will be back soon...


sorry Souza...but don't you think that apart from the hoax believers,the world is keeping running the same?No matter if Michael alive or hidden? And..moreover...don't you think an open message now would have more impact rather than clues around? I think that we need the leader here...Soldiers have their captain,and and a good captain fights in pole position.I know you don't agree,but I think his comeback doesn't deal with our eyes open.If he wants to comeback,he will do for many reasons,no one of us can know ,if he doesn't want to comeback,we just have to accept to fight alone.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: letstalkagain on February 01, 2010, 07:45:45 PM
No i do not believe it is all for money.  i am just saying why not kill two birds with ons stone.  Joe Jackson said Mj is worth more dead than alive !!  But I think that he probably could not do the concerts for one reason or another.  God Bless Ya MJ!!!!!
Too many lawsuits and no money  or not enough money coming in, can produce debts guys.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: katson45 on November 18, 2010, 09:00:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET9cnj3RfRU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET9cnj3RfRU)
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: robd on January 15, 2011, 04:12:08 PM
MJ will return whenever he feels like it - it has nothing to do with money, debts, fans, etc. etc..
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: shelby61 on January 19, 2011, 11:01:11 AM
I believe that MJ has prepared himself for this amazing "event" (I don't like calling it a hoax, because to me in many ways it isn't); however, I do believe that he did this to expose the many lies and extortionists and thieves that circled his life.  More importantly, the one thing that he held dear to his heart was the children and to have someone accuse him of molesting kids pretty much killed him inside.  I believe what strongly motivated him to do this was Tom Sneddon and his croonies in Santa Barbara County.  I still think there is alot of corruption and bs going on and someone needs to put a stop to it.  Judges, lawyers, police were all involved in bringing down Michael.  It was racially and money motivated.  

I think we need to take a better look at Sneddon and the officials in Santa Barbara at that time.  I have been hearing and reading some damning evidence that MJ was set up and I think this is MJ's payback time.... JMO.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: alicemj on February 15, 2011, 09:53:15 AM
Quote from: "Alem (Thetruth)"
Michael never had any depts, and if he did then that is already settled with months ago.
totally agree!!
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: fordtocarr on February 15, 2011, 10:01:05 AM
i TOtally agree on these reasons for the "hoax" also.  I think he'd just HAD IT, and is creating the same situations now, as in falsely accused person, media trial...etc. and all the things that haunted him.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: MissG on February 15, 2011, 12:07:24 PM
Even if I would like it and I am waiting for it, I don´t think he is coming back.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: trustno1 on February 15, 2011, 12:28:18 PM
Gema you don't? :(
I think he will be back when the time is right, I don't believe the debts story either and this isn't about money, there were umpteen reasons why he could have faked his death but IMO money wouldn't be one of them.  Michael planned this himself, only he knows when the time will come.  He can give us clues but thats all we have for sure.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: MissG on February 15, 2011, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: "trustno1"
Gema you don't? :(

No. He "told me" In a dream  :lol:  :lol: not kidding.

But jokes aside, imo, I find hard to see a come back.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: paula-c on February 15, 2011, 12:44:26 PM
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Gema wrote:

Even if I would like it and I am waiting for it, I don´t think he is coming back.


I think alike, and all of this reminds me to Elvis, the people after 33 years discussing whether or not alive, :roll:  no, I am not going to be 33 years in this :lol:
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: GINAFELICIA on February 15, 2011, 01:50:21 PM
I don't think Michael was in debts that couldn't be balanced with his assets.
He was also a business man, not only an entertainer.

Of course, as long as we don't have acces to his financial informations we can't be sure of anything.
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: cawobeth on May 24, 2011, 08:55:18 AM
Michael coming back is ultimately between Michael and God.

Meanwhile, wouldn't it be nice to give him a welcome back as possible ?
 party/
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: MysticLove on June 11, 2011, 04:45:16 PM
I think Michael is making a spaceship for his fellow aliens....and he needs 4 years to get it right LOL  suspicious//  moonwalk_/
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: For All Time on July 28, 2011, 01:36:30 AM
It's not all about the money and I think he didn't have any trouble with that.But anyway there is a lot more goin on and maybe we will now someday "why" all this happened.Theory's are everywhere but do we know the truth ? 
Title: Re: I believe that Michael will come back only when
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on July 28, 2011, 08:28:38 AM
Strange, when Michael supposedly died, people who were not fans of his, became fans. This is from the outside and inside this forum.  I remember some posts members stating that they were never fans of Michael, but something pulled them into this forum. Why? Have you ever asked this question? I did, because even if people were not fans, but they  have registered his messages through his music in back of their mind. The brain is a powerful tool, you can store so many things and when you need that information it will give it to you.. I am not going to explain how the brain works, too long lol.. What I am trying to say, the people understood  the messages Michael was trying to tell us. I have a friend who never listened to Michael Jackson was not a fan, and now he is. Strange.. Michael faked his death not for money, he had money I am sure of it, he did it because he was fed up of being put down, over and over, I would have disappeared long time ago if I were him. How can a human being be treated this way, I guess people don't know this saying LIVE AND LET LIVE.   
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