Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Pictures => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on January 09, 2010, 07:54:43 AM
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NO DOUBT THAT THE PHOTO IS "PHOTOSHOPPED" BUT THEY HAVE USED AN OLD PHOTO OF MJ AND THIS IS THE ONE: (I think)(http://[img])[/img] THAT'S WHY THEY HAD TO ADD FAKE REFLECTIONS CAUSE THE ORIGINAL PHOTO HAD REFLECTIONS ON IT FROM THE CHAMBER.......
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If you believe that the ambulance picture is in fact from the 80's the oxygen chamber pitchure, you will not be the first one to claim this. I am not so sure about that to be honest... But it is definitely photoshopped and from a previous era.
http://www.frogview.com/uploadimages5/4a586de48ae7b7.65975526frogview-gallery.jpg
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BUT IF IT HAD BEEN PHOTOSHOPPED BEFORE, THEN THEY COULD HAVE BEEN STUPID ENOUGH TO USE IT AGAIN, WITH OTHER EFFECTS, COULDN'T THEY? WE'RE TALKING LOTS OF MONEY FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHER. PAPARAZZI WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE A DOLLAR.
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BUT IF IT HAD BEEN PHOTOSHOPPED BEFORE, THEN THEY COULD HAVE BEEN STUPID ENOUGH TO USE IT AGAIN, WITH OTHER EFFECTS, COULDN'T THEY? WE'RE TALKING LOTS OF MONEY FOR THE PHOTOGRAPHER. PAPARAZZI WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE A DOLLAR.
You believe that this above photo I posted is also photoshopped?
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I don't know... the angles of both photos are different. I think the ambulance picture can be "photoshopped", but I'm not sure if the oxygen chamber picture is the original photo...
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no way..the oxygen chamber picture is from the 80s. it is impossible.
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no way..the oxygen chamber picture is from the 80s. it is impossible.
I agree... the oxygen chamber can't be photoshopped b/c they didn't have that back in the day.. or maybe they had something but i dunno.. i was just a kid when that all went down. :lol:
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The angle of the head and face is wrong.
In the chamber photo it is a side view of MJs face.. in the ambulance picture it has more face, its more to the camera.
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I am not sure gant whether generally really Michael on the outpatient clinic picture is.
I also thought something concerns an old picture or a doll, however disturbs me
(http://www.smilies.4-user.de/include/Denken/smilie_denk_52.gif) (http://www.smilies.4-user.de)
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Does anybody have Photoshop on their computer, What i am thinking...
If somebody has P.S, could they try and make the photo themselves, then post on here to see what we think?
It doesn't have to be perfect, but we can maybe get an idea what original photo of mike was used for the ambulance picture.
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i honestly don't think anyone will ever find the original picture if its not actually Mike faking it in there.. if it is a photoshop.. its probably somet from his archives that no-one has ever seen and its now disposed of!!
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So we will never find an original image, but we know but it is certainly in Photoshop
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I think any photos can be flipped, rotated, and then cut and pasted. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE BULGING VEIN IN HIS FOREHEAD. IT WAS A PIC. FROM HIM PERFORMING AND JUST HAD HIS EYES CLOSED AT THE TIME. ANYONE CAN DO THIS.........SOLVED..........FAKE FAKE FAKE.
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The hyperbaric chamber picture wasn't photoshopped into the one below.
In the second photo it resembles him as he was between 1989 - 1993.
Someone on MJKIT brought this up around September/October but I don't think the original photo was found.
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OK. It could even be real and taken months before the hoax, and MJ has used actors!!!
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Ok i wasn't even born in the 80s, i thought the hyperbaric chamber thing was a lie?
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Ok i wasn't even born in the 80s, i thought the hyperbaric chamber thing was a lie?
I wasnt alive in the 80's either but the chamber picture is REAL they just told a FAKE story about how he slept in one to live longer which is a LIE...he got burned making a pepsi commercail on his head and had to get in one...someone got a picture sold it and you knowing TABLOIDS making up the story
Picture=Real
Story about picture=Fake
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Ok i wasn't even born in the 80s, i thought the hyperbaric chamber thing was a lie?
I wasnt alive in the 80's either but the chamber picture is REAL they just told a FAKE story about how he slept in one to live longer which is a LIE...he got burned making a pepsi commercail on his head and had to get in one...someone got a picture sold it and you knowing TABLOIDS making up the story
Picture=Real
Story about picture=Fake
yeh just elaborate on that!! its something they needed in the burns unit so he bought it for that.. and he said he had to have a go in it!!
then as its Michael Jackson all the freaky stories immerged!!
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You may not solved the fake ambulance photo but you definitely solved the FAKE FAKE ambulance photo!
Remember? Sometime ago an old-looking ambulance photo appeared - and it seems that somebody took the head of MJ from this old "oxygen chamber" picture and tried to prove that this 2009 photo was fake! :roll:
I don't have a better copy on my laptop - but maybe some of you do and will post it here!
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I think any photos can be flipped, rotated, and then cut and pasted. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE BULGING VEIN IN HIS FOREHEAD. IT WAS A PIC. FROM HIM PERFORMING AND JUST HAD HIS EYES CLOSED AT THE TIME. ANYONE CAN DO THIS.........SOLVED..........FAKE FAKE FAKE.
It is not a vein in his picture in the ambulance. See my thread viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1945 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1945)
So, when looking for pictures to match up, don't look for veins sticking out in the forehead
Even though I have said it quite a few times I will say it again. I can't understand why people think this photo is "shopped", I am missing the point, it is not logical. Michael had dummies, doubles, a makeup artist, and lastly he could have done it (lying there) without being dead so why would he need a shopped picture to prove his death?
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Ok i wasn't even born in the 80s, i thought the hyperbaric chamber thing was a lie?
I wasnt alive in the 80's either but the chamber picture is REAL they just told a FAKE story about how he slept in one to live longer which is a LIE...he got burned making a pepsi commercail on his head and had to get in one...someone got a picture sold it and you knowing TABLOIDS making up the story
Michael brought that story into the world, with the help from Frank Dileo and John Branca and others.
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MJ himself med up the story about the chamber to make an image a little more eccentric we could say. But the picture is real and in the comparisson some of you posted before, make very evident how easy it is to photoshop a picture like the one of the ambulance.
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Do you know what bugs me about the ambulance picture? The nose.. there were many rumours going around that MJ wore a fake prosthetic tip on his nose and in the ambulance picture it appears to me that the top of the nose is missing.
The pic may be real.
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I go back and forth on whether this ambulance photo is fake or not.
Recently, I have searched google for "ambulance stock footage" in a quest to find a similar photo Michael could have been photoshopped into. So far, no luck.
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the thing is..its been solved with many pictures..3 to be exact,the correct CORRECT 1! got lost on MJHD :cry: but umm...i say! lol all the pictures are nicely put together for one...lol case closed!
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Do you know what bugs me about the ambulance picture? The nose.. there were many rumours going around that MJ wore a fake prosthetic tip on his nose and in the ambulance picture it appears to me that the top of the nose is missing.
The pic may be real.
i see that too!! the tip is gone i think this is him now not photoshopped :(
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Even if it's him , what's the problem ?
I think that he may have acted the scene one time as a rehearsal , have the picture taken, then they touched it with photoshop to erase some clues , to add some others clues ( if she look too real we wouldn't be here after all)
So that's why the skin tone is darker , some details of his face seems older too
Photoshop can transform some ugly hollywoodian b***** into beautiful,thin and perfect like beauties , so of course they can make someone beautiful as Mike(wich already look young for his age anyways) look younger and make us confused as hell .Erase some wrinkles and scars , put the eyebrow from another era , darken his skin tone , put an another nose and here is it !
I tought at first that it could be an older picture as well
But what if it's a picture of 2009(took during a reahearsal of the death : remember Ben's slip-up " that day and that other d...(day) mixed up with an older picture to make him look totally different from now ?
Of course it doesn't look 2009 Era , it's 2009 Era with some details of Bad/History/Blood on the Dance Floor Era.
Because it's taken in 2009 doesn't mean that it's not photoshopped ;)
Don't worry people , it look fake because it is that's all
Don't worry about the tip of his nose , it look pretty normal to me
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there was only one picture taken right???ok...the one that is posted on this site..it seems there is almost no space between michaels nose and the paramedics hand right??
look at this picture that i saved and enlarged..there is a space between the nose and hand,.and the tip of the nose looks there to me..unless i am imagining this.i dont know..you have to blow it up to understand..but then again it can be a dark spot too...also..we all forgot one very important thing! The paramedics said they couldnt get a vein so they have to put the IV in his neck right??tell me where the hell is it then? I dont see it anywhere??>>
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/MichaelJacksonDeath-2-1.jpg)
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there was only one picture taken right???ok...the one that is posted on this site..it seems there is almost no space between michaels nose and the paramedics hand right??
look at this picture that i saved and enlarged..there is a space between the nose and hand,.and the tip of the nose looks there to me..unless i am imagining this.i dont know..you have to blow it up to understand..but then again it can be a dark spot too...also..we all forgot one very important thing! The paramedics said they couldnt get a vein so they have to put the IV in his neck right??tell me where the hell is it then? I dont see it anywhere??>>
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/MichaelJacksonDeath-2-1.jpg)
I understand exactly what you are talking about. I noticed the same thing. The space between the hand and his nose. I have seen several pictures where there is more space than others. Also, I have seen about 5 differnt ambulance photos. Some show just MJ and others show almost the entire ambulance interior. Where are all these different versions coming from?
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Ok i wasn't even born in the 80s, i thought the hyperbaric chamber thing was a lie?
I wasnt alive in the 80's either but the chamber picture is REAL they just told a FAKE story about how he slept in one to live longer which is a LIE...he got burned making a pepsi commercail on his head and had to get in one...someone got a picture sold it and you knowing TABLOIDS making up the story
Picture=Real
Story about picture=Fake
yeh just elaborate on that!! its something they needed in the burns unit so he bought it for that.. and he said he had to have a go in it!!
then as its Michael Jackson all the freaky stories immerged!!
guys...you are just spreading gossip...he said himself out of his own mouth that this was a hypabaric chamber he had bought for a childrens hospital and that they thought it would be cute for him to go inside and take a couple of shots...He BOUGHT IT FOR A DONATION not for his burns on his head.
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there was only one picture taken right???ok...the one that is posted on this site..it seems there is almost no space between michaels nose and the paramedics hand right??
look at this picture that i saved and enlarged..there is a space between the nose and hand,.and the tip of the nose looks there to me..unless i am imagining this.i dont know..you have to blow it up to understand..but then again it can be a dark spot too...also..we all forgot one very important thing! The paramedics said they couldnt get a vein so they have to put the IV in his neck right??tell me where the hell is it then? I dont see it anywhere??>>
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/MichaelJacksonDeath-2-1.jpg)
I understand exactly what you are talking about. I noticed the same thing. The space between the hand and his nose. I have seen several pictures where there is more space than others. Also, I have seen about 5 differnt ambulance photos. Some show just MJ and others show almost the entire ambulance interior. Where are all these different versions coming from?
I can clearly see the tip of his nose in this picture.
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Doesn't anybody else thing his head is small in this pic compaired to the paramadics, I always thought so... I mean it seems off proportion, anybody agree??? You know Michael is a tall man, wouldn't his head be bigger donno
BTW from what angel is that photo taken, I always thought it was impossible to take a picture of the side (slightly from the corner) of somebody when your taking the picture from the back of the ambulance... what kind of an ambulance is that, does it have windows in its corners????
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Yes, I agree See. His head looks awful small. And with the dark tinted windows on the ambulance, I just can't understand how they got this shot to begin with. And his face certainly looks younger and different than it did the night before at rehersals.
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Doesn't anybody else thing his head is small in this pic compaired to the paramadics, I always thought so...
Now that you mention it that's right. For sure the paramedic's got a golgoth hand compared to Michael's head.
I was so focused on little details I didn't even notice that.
If it was a child , the hand could be bigger than his head...but a adult's head being this small...
Definitely the ambulance picture is two pictures mixed together
(like many of us said , ans as BOW said too...ooops ;) )
I think that there are three mixed :
The 1985 ambulance photos
Some picture from 2009(with details of him younger mixed in)
and then the environment of the ambulance , with the paramedics and the material.
Does someone could find the inside of an ambulance with someone in it ? :D
I know it seem crazy but if we does we could compare if the material inside the ambulance of Michael is disproportionned as well.
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can anyone post a link to the 1985 ambulance photos please...i cant find any :(...and remember when your looking for photos and stuff to where they can be photoshopped in PLEASE REMEMBER THIS...ppl can take screen pics to!!! that means it does not have to be a REAL picture!!! that makes it too easy if they just found an ordinary picture huh??...i think it could be from an interview of performance or really ANYTHING or ANYWHERE... pictures are way to easy to research they prob took it from video huh??
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Yes, I agree See. His head looks awful small. And with the dark tinted windows on the ambulance, I just can't understand how they got this shot to begin with. And his face certainly looks younger and different than it did the night before at rehersals.
Oke so I'm not crazy LMAO cuz you know nobody mentioned that that whay.... his face looks like the Liberian Girl theme pictures, that is IMO why they used those pictures at the memorial! Or Michael simply did not liked how he looked right now and he wanted to be remembered like that or he wanted to be forgotten....... now I don't make sence any more LMAO....
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can anyone post a link to the 1985 ambulance photos please...
Here you go, come from MJkit forum , the two are side by side
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4372/uh551441256911649mjpic.jpg)
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Wanna know what I thought when seeing the pics side by side... ok this will sound crazy so forgive me...to me the right side picture it make me think he looked like Blanket. And I realized once again that Blanket is definately his son!
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The tip of the nose definitely looks missing to me. Im starting to believe this is real, and if its real then that means i am looking at a photograph of MJs dead body. :cry: Think about it. And think of how wrong OK magazine were for putting it on their front page.
I miss you so much Michael and i love you. For eternity and beyond. Always.
Lift Your Head Up High
And Scream Out To The World
I Know I Am Someone
And Let The Truth Unfurl
No One Can Hurt You Now
Because You Know What's True
Yes, I Believe In Me
So You Believe In You
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Do you know what bugs me about the ambulance picture? The nose.. there were many rumours going around that MJ wore a fake prosthetic tip on his nose and in the ambulance picture it appears to me that the top of the nose is missing.
The pic may be real.
ok guys maybe this is dumb but you see the lady with redish hair or red tints on the one where hes lying in the floor?? possible that the red bled into the ambulance pic so they put the car there to throw it off?? no? idk im dumb :oops: :oops:
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Do you know what bugs me about the ambulance picture? The nose.. there were many rumours going around that MJ wore a fake prosthetic tip on his nose and in the ambulance picture it appears to me that the top of the nose is missing.
The pic may be real.
ok guys maybe this is dumb but you see the lady with redish hair or red tints on the one where hes lying in the floor?? possible that the red bled into the ambulance pic so they put the car there to throw it off?? no? idk im dumb :oops: :oops:
i see where u mean
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there was only one picture taken right???ok...the one that is posted on this site..it seems there is almost no space between michaels nose and the paramedics hand right??
look at this picture that i saved and enlarged..there is a space between the nose and hand,.and the tip of the nose looks there to me..unless i am imagining this.i dont know..you have to blow it up to understand..but then again it can be a dark spot too...also..we all forgot one very important thing! The paramedics said they couldnt get a vein so they have to put the IV in his neck right??tell me where the hell is it then? I dont see it anywhere??>>
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/MichaelJacksonDeath-2-1.jpg)
I understand exactly what you are talking about. I noticed the same thing. The space between the hand and his nose. I have seen several pictures where there is more space than others. Also, I have seen about 5 differnt ambulance photos. Some show just MJ and others show almost the entire ambulance interior. Where are all these different versions coming from?
I found the iv, but still that does not really mean anything
http://www.theinsider.com/news/2306335_ ... Last_Photo (http://www.theinsider.com/news/2306335_Michael_Jackson_Exclusive_Last_Photo)
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there was only one picture taken right???ok...the one that is posted on this site..it seems there is almost no space between michaels nose and the paramedics hand right??
look at this picture that i saved and enlarged..there is a space between the nose and hand,.and the tip of the nose looks there to me..unless i am imagining this.i dont know..you have to blow it up to understand..but then again it can be a dark spot too...also..we all forgot one very important thing! The paramedics said they couldnt get a vein so they have to put the IV in his neck right??tell me where the hell is it then? I dont see it anywhere??>>
(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/DOREENTBIRD/MichaelJacksonDeath-2-1.jpg)
I understand exactly what you are talking about. I noticed the same thing. The space between the hand and his nose. I have seen several pictures where there is more space than others. Also, I have seen about 5 differnt ambulance photos. Some show just MJ and others show almost the entire ambulance interior. Where are all these different versions coming from?
I found the iv, but still that does not really mean anything
http://www.theinsider.com/news/2306335_ ... Last_Photo (http://www.theinsider.com/news/2306335_Michael_Jackson_Exclusive_Last_Photo)
One thing I notice, when I see the "whole original picture" is that big difference between the sitting paramedic and the lying Michael....I'm no specialist but it looks so unfitting ( I mean the paramedic look so big and Michael looks so small....It's hard to explain I hope you know what I mean?
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No doubt,you are right,. I tried to estimate the "complete" seize of mjs head and compare it with the seize of the underarm of the paramedic pumping. Even if it is a big, powerfull arm, the relation "head-underarmsize" is not natural.
Also the colour of the skin is not a point,because Mjs pigmentation was so low.
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And this is the original pic they used and photoshopped
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And this is the original pic they used and photoshopped
If this is the original pic, then Michael was in really bad shape. He loks almost like a corpse there. The colour and everything.
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No, in that photo he is not Michael. I think they used that photo and put on it Michael's face. I think it is the photo they photoshopped. So the ambulance pic is FAKE :)
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Ok, that's make sense ;)
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And this is the original pic they used and photoshopped
Someone blurred that one in order to be able to post it on some kind of forum that has nothing to do with MJ or hoax.There has already been a thread about it and this person admitted that.
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Did that someone know about the pic ?
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And this is the original pic they used and photoshopped
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=2256)
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Chill guys, this is a pichute someone blurred out his face on because she wanted a netural opinoin about the pitchure, I think this girl was asking something about the model of this ambulance.
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It's just, I think it looks like Michael, the closed eyes and forehead :(
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his nose is present !
is a matter of shooting.
angle and image quality.
but his nose is present
I am sure
sorry for my english :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc)
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his nose is present !
is a matter of shooting.
angle and image quality.
but his nose is present
I am sure
sorry for my english :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc)
yeah, his nose tip is there but you can't see it that good because of the oxygen-things they pushed into his nose..
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I found a video where you can see the two different R at 0.34,
http://www.vidchili.com/video/oc8QUMxk0 ... scription/ (http://www.vidchili.com/video/oc8QUMxk0Wo/Michael_Jackson_getting_out_of_the_coroner_van_ALIVE_details_in_video_description/)
:?:
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Ok, can someone just PLEASE post the Original photo of the "Smudged" one
please?
These are two different positions so two different photographs.
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his nose is present !
is a matter of shooting.
angle and image quality.
but his nose is present
I am sure
sorry for my english :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc)
yeah, his nose tip is there but you can't see it that good because of the oxygen-things they pushed into his nose..
I can't see anything in his nose, he has a tube in his windpipe so why would they give him oxygen through his nose?
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his nose is present !
is a matter of shooting.
angle and image quality.
but his nose is present
I am sure
sorry for my english :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUV6-MI9omc)
yeah, his nose tip is there but you can't see it that good because of the oxygen-things they pushed into his nose..
I can't see anything in his nose, he has a tube in his windpipe so why would they give him oxygen through his nose?
I just called them Oxygen things...I didn't know how they were called in english, sorry :mrgreen:
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:lol: This is the same picture that I just posted to another OMG thread. So that settles it, right :lol: By George I think we've done it!
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Hello everyone,
when I saw the photo of the hyperbaric chamber, I immediately thought of that ambulance.
I must admit that is not well focused and the angle is different.
Frankly, I'm not so sure that is the same photo.
Regarding the story the hyperbaric chamber created by Michael:
I read - unfortunately I do not remember where - that he had GIVEN the hyperbaric chamber at a hospital.
Does anyone know which hospital had made the donation, or tell me some source?
Thanks with all my heart.
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I'm British so not too sure how your medical care works over there...but wouldn't someone like MJ have the best in private care?..and wouldn't need a 911 ambulance?...also the pic...can anyone from the U.S tell me how much you can actually see from the outside of those tinted windows?...i wouldn't have though they could have got such a clear pic of inside the ambulance...also the guy we see taking the video...is obviously someone else filming it all too...so why have we not seen 2 different pics/videos?...and...you are put head first into the ambulance, not feet first, his head should have been at the opposite end to the doors..as for the actual image we see of MJ I think that's the smallest issue here...when someone is dead/half dead they always look a bit different..and is hard to tell hand size and proprtions in some pic angles too and without staged lighting skin colour can change...sorry but you have all been focusing on mj and not the ambulance its self...has anyone seen any other eye witness reports of what happened when the ambulance was there cos I know i haven't...and why were the security staff not ushering the guys with the cameras away like you would think they would do?...and why was their a fire engine there as well?..wouldn't have thought that was needed unless their was a fire?..is their any proof as to that video even being taken at the time we are led to believe?..could have been taken at any time...I think I have said enough now so will shut up lol
x
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On the homepage of this website they have a video of Brian Oxman saying that the photo was definitely faked. Why was it faked? Because he is ALIVE. Simple answer. Simple question. I don't know why non- believers don't want to see the truth when it is right in front of their eyes... we are on here because we believe but we need to somehow send the message out to people. If everyone watched that youtube video then everyone will know MJ is alive. But they never ever mentioned this in the media, I wouldn't of known otherwise if I didn't come on here.
Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY)
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Just wanted yalls opinion, i found this video on youtube, and they are saying its another photo from the 80's, not the hyperbolic chamber pic. check it out
[youtube:2tcarlqq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdTpEUOjO2c&feature=related[/youtube:2tcarlqq]
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I'm stunned. Are there really people here who still think the ambulance photo could be real???? However it was done the photo is fake. People have already talked about the angle of the photo and the position of the body in the ambulance. The photographer could hardly stop smiling when he was interviewed - and there was the 'that day and the other day' slip up.
Where is Dr Murray? He said he went to the hospital in the ambulance. Where is he? Why don't we see him in the photo trying to save his dying patient?
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the guy who pretends that the pic is from the 80's is wrong in my opinion. You can see several differences between the amb' pic and the pic from the 80: the eyebrows are differente, the nose is different, the hair... it's just not relevant , imo...
but for me it's clear that the pic is from the MSG concert when MJ is lying on the stage!
but i still don't understand why you guys are still trying to know whether the pic is fake or not, since brian oxman himself said it in an interview, several months ago! :?: