Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Multimedia => General Hoax Investigation => Twitter ~ Verified Accounts => Topic started by: MJ-Fan on January 08, 2010, 02:12:49 PM
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SUNDAY marathon on A&E if u missed any, u can catch up. 2 episodes left building to a secret series finale that will BLOW.YOUR.MIND. love JJ
What's so secret?!
Why would it blow our minds? We're all aware of a possible Jackson FOUR reunion, so what else could be happening?
Who knows, maybe Jermaine's just excited about a Jackson four tour or maybe a tribute concert for MJ.. But it seems pretty weird to me!
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hmm...i don't have cable :( but i'll have to check online to see if they have more episodes...altho i'm sure i'll hear about the news here before waiting for them to post the episode online!
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God only knows what Jermaine is tweeting about!!
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you have a link of his twitter? thank you ;)
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If MJ is really dead, then i really want Jermaine to go away and be quiet somewhere.
I dont care about his pathetic reality show that MJ wanted nothing to do with.
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you have a link of his twitter? thank you ;)
He's tweeting from the official Jackson account
Twitter.com/alljack5ons
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you have a link of his twitter? thank you ;)
He's tweeting from the official Jackson account
Twitter.com/alljack5ons
Thank you!! I follow them now :)
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What date is the series finale?
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My mind tells me: "Oh come on, it's Jermaine!", my guts tell me: "Hold on to your butts!"
Please, God, let it be second!
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The 17th
I'm sure I've read somewhere the 17th and 18th are important dates? :shock:
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aetv says its the 18th and you know he could be tweeting this just to promote the show so more people will watch it...Sad because no one really cares what they have to say they just wanna know more bout michael and see if they ca listen in to anything involving his death...believers or non believers because no one is sure about what happened...the jackson four caNt go on tour without michael...its not the same they will not be as good just no way!!! if michael really is gone then its just a group of older men going through their midlife crisis and wanna get back to their younger years...too bad they cant do that without michael because really they would be going to see michael :D
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Jermaine is talking about the Moving like M.J competition.GUYS ITS OVER RIGHT?Conrad Murray will be charged for Michaels dead.OR DO YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO PRISON FOR HIS FUN?!!
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May be they will show MJ in their show and that will be a big surprise, cuz what we heard was that MJ didnt want to deal with it. SO that would be a surprise??? ....idk... :/
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Jermaine is talking about the Moving like M.J competition.GUYS ITS OVER RIGHT?Conrad Murray will be charged for Michaels dead.OR DO YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO PRISON FOR HIS FUN?!!
Dont bring Murrays investigation into this particular thread...that goes with the death investigation thread...and should stay in that one considering thats what it is discussing, if you come in here talking about murray everyone will get off topic of this thread and then every thread will be talking about murray instead of other things that need to be discussed as well...dont get distracted, no one said he was going to prison just yet so keep ur head up high until then...one day at a time...
I think jermaine may just be promoting the show
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Hi Suzy,
Keep the faith, just because someone is charged with a crime does not mean they will be found guilty, therefore no prison term...it's all an eye opening adventure for L.O.V.E. (please remember love is not always fuzzy and warm as portrayed in fairytales, it's hard work, endurance, strength, compromising, arguing, hurtful, etc. at times! ;) )
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Jermaine is talking about the Moving like M.J competition.GUYS ITS OVER RIGHT?Conrad Murray will be charged for Michaels dead.OR DO YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO PRISON FOR HIS FUN?!!
If Murray goes to prison and it's a long time, then maybe I'll accept that Michael is gone.
If it's for a short amount of time, then I'll still believe in a hoax. MJ is incredibly rich.. Going to prison for a large amount of money and a only serving small amount of time may seem reasonable to someone who really needs money and wants to help Michael. There are scams like this sometimes (with non famous people) - Someone takes the blame for someone else and serves a short sentence for a large amount of money. It happens. MJ could do anything.
But yeah, I agree with the person above. Let's not drag that into this thread. I just wanted to reply to you cos I don't like ignoring people's opinions in my own threads! :P
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The 17th
I'm sure I've read somewhere the 17th and 18th are important dates? :shock:
BOW talked about 17th! she said that this day will be very important, but what sunday is JJ talking about? next sunday is 10th.
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The 17th
I'm sure I've read somewhere the 17th and 18th are important dates? :shock:
BOW talked about 17th! she said that this day will be very important, but what sunday is JJ talking about? next sunday is 10th.
its just another episode leading to the finale which jermaine says will blow our minds...the finale is the 18th so mayb mike will return the 17th
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The 17th
I'm sure I've read somewhere the 17th and 18th are important dates? :shock:
BOW talked about 17th! she said that this day will be very important, but what sunday is JJ talking about? next sunday is 10th.
The Sunday coming up (10th) is the live questions one.
The one after that (17th) is the 'finale' ;)
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Do you not think Jermaine should be concentrating on the fact his brother has been murdered and that his murderer is yet to be arrested.
Should he not be tweeting about todays news about Murray... instead of incessently promoting his pathetic reality show?
I mean.. come one.. what is the matter with Jermaine? Does he not realise that he would be no-one if not for Michael and that actually none of us care about the rest of the family.,.. they have enough money now to go away quietly and live of MJs riches and stop being in our faces.
If MJ really has died, then Jermaine and the rest of the family failed MJ anyway for not supporting him and helping him when he needed them the most.
It just makes me angry.
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I am hoping and praying it is about MJ, I am not interested in this show they have brought MJ's passing into every episode also they do not sound good with their singing. I do know we have been told from the beginning their was going to be a surprise ending on 011710 and I know LAPD asked for the Las Vegas Judge to keep the search warrant for the Las Vegas Pharmacy sealed until 011810(the judge denied this) but I have always wondered about the LAPD timing as they made this request back in late October or early November
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The Sunday coming up (10th) is the live questions one.
The one after that (17th) is the 'finale' ;)
And the next day (January 18) is Martin Luther King, Jr. Day in the US. :idea:
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erm im not going to ever question the family emotions regarding michaels death i made a promise to michael in the death investigation complete thread.
but i am interested in the live questions episode...i think i will watch that one for sure...i only saw one episode and it bored me...but that one i am def going to look in to.
is there a way they monitor the questions before the brothers actually get to see the questions?...because if not someone should def call in and ask em questions regarding michaels death :P
that would be hilarious if all the questions were about michael instead of the jackson4 returning bhahahahahaha
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Not trying to make fun or be funny. SO... I do agree that I for one am definitley not interested in the Jackson reality show... ALso I was watching one episode (only because nothing else was on TV that one night) and saw them rehearsing! (I forget which episode) but..... Marlon...well... ugh he has a BELLY!! :lol: I don't think it's a beer belly but probably just middle age!!! MY point? Are you serious it's over.. they need to just go somewhere and sit down and enjoy their kids and grandkids.... face it they are getting up there! ANd the only one who still has and always will have the magic is MJ! :evil:
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This has GOT to be a clue. So many things are pointing to January 18th being "Bamsday."
1. "A secret series finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND."
2. "A surprise ending" to to the series
3. the 18th is MLK Day (the MLK quote from TDCAU in TII)
4. Someone on this thread said that his will is being revoked that day (?) *i was under the impression that that was on the 28th, but meh*
5. January 18th is an important day in the investigation (according to TMZ)
6. The investigation is now complete and Murray will be brought to court in a matter of weeks (maybe 2 weeks ;))
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MLK - Reminds me of MidnightMLK
Does anyone remember if he/she had anything relevant to say about a comeback or a certain important date? ;o
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The revocation hearing on the will is 012810, there could not be a hearing on 011810 as Martin Luther King Jr Day is a national holiday in the US and the courts are closed along with Postal Service, License Branches All Federal and State Government offices
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This has GOT to be a clue. So many things are pointing to January 18th being "Bamsday."
1. "A secret series finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND."
2. "A surprise ending" to to the series
3. the 18th is MLK Day (the MLK quote from TDCAU in TII)
4. Someone on this thread said that his will is being revoked that day (?) *i was under the impression that that was on the 28th, but meh*
5. January 18th is an important day in the investigation (according to TMZ)
6. The investigation is now complete and Murray will be brought to court in a matter of weeks (maybe 2 weeks ;))
AND, most importantly, the relevance and significance of Martin Luther King, Jrs. dream and vision in contrast to all that Michael has had to go through over the years in regards to racism, ignorance, and prejudice. If something happens that day, it would be the best remembrance and tribute of MLK's dream and legacy the world has ever seen.
Just a reminder, MLK's two adult children were present and spoke at MJ's Memorial Service.
In the US, MLK Day is encouraged to be a "day of volunteer service". Is anyone doing anything special that day?
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aetv says its the 18th and you know he could be tweeting this just to promote the show so more people will watch it...Sad because no one really cares what they have to say they just wanna know more bout michael and see if they ca listen in to anything involving his death...believers or non believers because no one is sure about what happened...the jackson four caNt go on tour without michael...its not the same they will not be as good just no way!!! if michael really is gone then its just a group of older men going through their midlife crisis and wanna get back to their younger years...too bad they cant do that without michael because really they would be going to see michael :D
It would be very sad if they (jermaine and co.)are the ones keeping up the clues for the hoax,just for making more business...while their brother is possibly dead...
this is the worse chance.
I hope not
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This has GOT to be a clue. So many things are pointing to January 18th being "Bamsday."
1. "A secret series finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND."
2. "A surprise ending" to to the series
3. the 18th is MLK Day (the MLK quote from TDCAU in TII)
4. Someone on this thread said that his will is being revoked that day (?) *i was under the impression that that was on the 28th, but meh*
5. January 18th is an important day in the investigation (according to TMZ)
6. The investigation is now complete and Murray will be brought to court in a matter of weeks (maybe 2 weeks ;))
legit or not...
point 7. BOW pointed out that date too.
point 8.SKorpio oroscope says on the 18 of this january, life will take a new bright direction...
AND I AM A SKORPIO!!!!!!SO!! IT FITS TO ME!!!!
but if he will really come back,than..on that day all zodiac will be blesses!!! :lol:
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This has GOT to be a clue. So many things are pointing to January 18th being "Bamsday."
1. "A secret series finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND."
2. "A surprise ending" to to the series
3. the 18th is MLK Day (the MLK quote from TDCAU in TII)
4. Someone on this thread said that his will is being revoked that day (?) *i was under the impression that that was on the 28th, but meh*
5. January 18th is an important day in the investigation (according to TMZ)
6. The investigation is now complete and Murray will be brought to court in a matter of weeks (maybe 2 weeks ;))
AND, most importantly, the relevance and significance of Martin Luther King, Jrs. dream and vision in contrast to all that Michael has had to go through over the years in regards to racism, ignorance, and prejudice. If something happens that day, it would be the best remembrance and tribute of MLK's dream and legacy the world has ever seen.
Just a reminder, MLK's two adult children were present and spoke at MJ's Memorial Service.
In the US, MLK Day is encouraged to be a "day of volunteer service". Is anyone doing anything special that day?
Ooooh this really fits with this:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2524 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2524)
:D !!
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Do you not think Jermaine should be concentrating on the fact his brother has been murdered and that his murderer is yet to be arrested.
Should he not be tweeting about todays news about Murray... instead of incessently promoting his pathetic reality show?
I mean.. come one.. what is the matter with Jermaine? Does he not realise that he would be no-one if not for Michael and that actually none of us care about the rest of the family.,.. they have enough money now to go away quietly and live of MJs riches and stop being in our faces.
If MJ really has died, then Jermaine and the rest of the family failed MJ anyway for not supporting him and helping him when he needed them the most.
It just makes me angry.
One answer to all your questions: hoax. ;)
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This has GOT to be a clue. So many things are pointing to January 18th being "Bamsday."
1. "A secret series finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND."
2. "A surprise ending" to to the series
3. the 18th is MLK Day (the MLK quote from TDCAU in TII)
4. Someone on this thread said that his will is being revoked that day (?) *i was under the impression that that was on the 28th, but meh*
5. January 18th is an important day in the investigation (according to TMZ)
6. The investigation is now complete and Murray will be brought to court in a matter of weeks (maybe 2 weeks ;))
AND, most importantly, the relevance and significance of Martin Luther King, Jrs. dream and vision in contrast to all that Michael has had to go through over the years in regards to racism, ignorance, and prejudice. If something happens that day, it would be the best remembrance and tribute of MLK's dream and legacy the world has ever seen.
Just a reminder, MLK's two adult children were present and spoke at MJ's Memorial Service.
In the US, MLK Day is encouraged to be a "day of volunteer service". Is anyone doing anything special that day?
I'm gonna be volunteering at a local soup kitchen
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God only knows what Jermaine is tweeting about!!
Does Jermaine even know himself what he is tweeting about? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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we all know what we will be doing on the 18th on here waiting to see what you have seen i think
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Ooh I can't wait! I wanna see what the surprise is! :D
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This has GOT to be a clue. So many things are pointing to January 18th being "Bamsday."
1. "A secret series finale that will BLOW YOUR MIND."
2. "A surprise ending" to to the series
3. the 18th is MLK Day (the MLK quote from TDCAU in TII)
4. Someone on this thread said that his will is being revoked that day (?) *i was under the impression that that was on the 28th, but meh*
5. January 18th is an important day in the investigation (according to TMZ)
6. The investigation is now complete and Murray will be brought to court in a matter of weeks (maybe 2 weeks ;))
AND, most importantly, the relevance and significance of Martin Luther King, Jrs. dream and vision in contrast to all that Michael has had to go through over the years in regards to racism, ignorance, and prejudice. If something happens that day, it would be the best remembrance and tribute of MLK's dream and legacy the world has ever seen.
Just a reminder, MLK's two adult children were present and spoke at MJ's Memorial Service.
In the US, MLK Day is encouraged to be a "day of volunteer service". Is anyone doing anything special that day?
I'm gonna be volunteering at a local soup kitchen
That's great! :D I hope to do something too but it's my friend's birthday that day so I assume we'll be doing something. I want to volunteer somewhere though!
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No one really know what to except from Jermaine right ?
So he could be either really preparing a major surprise(about Mike) or just talking about himself and the others Jacksons (I like them but well to the point of "blowing my mind" let me doubt about this)
Can be really humble one second and act cocky the next second
I guess we have to keep an open mind about this
Surprise us to the point of blowing our mind Jermaine !
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I dunno. Haven't we been hearing about the "surprise ending" for a while now?
And also Jan 17th/18th; those dates have been important too.
Is anyone going to be able to sleep at all those two days? :lol:
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I'm just gonna take it easy now. There's not a lot we can do and I don't wanna get all stressed out waiting for those days. Cos if nothing happens, I'll be gutted if I get too hopeful. Until Murray gets put in prison for a really long time, then I won't give up ;) But if he does, I won't be expecting a comeback and I'll probably just try and accept that he's gone.
I guess all we can do is wait, enjoy the ride and see what happens. ;) I'm kinda thinking if nothing happens this month, I'll look out for Valentine's day lol :) But I reckon we're gonna get loads of clues this month atleast! :D
Jermaine, you better not be messing with us -_- :lol:
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CHECK OUT THEIR LATEST TWEETS.
Ignore the retweets, Marlon's going crazy.. haha - Gotta love him! :D
http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS (http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS)
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:shock: :ugeek: :geek:
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That Jackson show looked so badly acted it does not seem spontaneous to me at all. Jermaine probably wants to announce a solo tour (his idea of a major surprise).
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cant see mj makeing a surprise appearance can you?? :lol: Anythings possible just think its america and not everyone watches it there lets say few million in america see comeback thats it dont think its big enough for comeback wot you think?? :)
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I hate to say, but I think they are just promoting their own show. I'm afraid it has nothing to do with Michael's comeback. But I hope I'm wrong :D
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Sigh...I wish the big surprise ending was Michael's return, but there's no way Jermaine will let anyone upstage him. He'll probably just announce he's expecting a baby with Marlon's wife or something. :lol:
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Sigh...I wish the big surprise ending was Michael's return, but there's no way Jermaine will let anyone upstage him. He'll probably just announce he's expecting a baby with Marlon's wife or something. :lol:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Sigh...I wish the big surprise ending was Michael's return, but there's no way Jermaine will let anyone upstage him. He'll probably just announce he's expecting a baby with Marlon's wife or something. :lol:
Aww lols! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Jermaine is on a roll now so I can't see him slowing down just yet.
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Yeah I saw that tweet but I didn't notice the part about a suprise that will blow your mind. I have to go back to twitter and read his tweet. The Jacksons have been twittering like crazy the past few days. If you don't have them on twitter you should follow them I think their twitter is allJack5ons. They are trying to get people to convince A&E network to give the Jackson's a second season of the show. Janet has a twitter, Jackie, Tito and his sons, and Randy all have real individual accounts. The other Twitter is for all the Jacksons which is the one Jermaine and Marlon use the most. That would be a trip if MJ was in the finale. :o :lol: :o I would be straight cheering.
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What date is the series finale?
24th January.
Sunday in two weeks. "since they can't send it on 25th, Monday, they will do it on Sunday :lol: "
-7Months since MJ's death.
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I would shake my head so hard if this big surprise was about Jermain's new solo album dropping with some cheesy video. :x
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Do you not think Jermaine should be concentrating on the fact his brother has been murdered and that his murderer is yet to be arrested.
Should he not be tweeting about todays news about Murray... instead of incessently promoting his pathetic reality show?
I mean.. come one.. what is the matter with Jermaine? Does he not realise that he would be no-one if not for Michael and that actually none of us care about the rest of the family.,.. they have enough money now to go away quietly and live of MJs riches and stop being in our faces.
If MJ really has died, then Jermaine and the rest of the family failed MJ anyway for not supporting him and helping him when he needed them the most.
It just makes me angry.
Thank you for speaking the truth!! Thumbs up!
And what would possibly blow our minds? Jermaine should know nobody cares about their ugly little butts. Michael just has to be alive, 'cause I can't believe they all care that little about him. It would make me so sad to know he had a family who did nothing and nothing but exploit him, even after his death.
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Do you not think Jermaine should be concentrating on the fact his brother has been murdered and that his murderer is yet to be arrested.
Should he not be tweeting about todays news about Murray... instead of incessently promoting his pathetic reality show?
I mean.. come one.. what is the matter with Jermaine? Does he not realise that he would be no-one if not for Michael and that actually none of us care about the rest of the family.,.. they have enough money now to go away quietly and live of MJs riches and stop being in our faces.
If MJ really has died, then Jermaine and the rest of the family failed MJ anyway for not supporting him and helping him when he needed them the most.
It just makes me angry.
This is exactly what I think! I don't think his family is that jealous and heartless.. Would be a big shock how the truth really is if Michael is dead.
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Wow, that got me all excited! Though, I do hope it's something positive. You know what I mean. I'd feel severely disappointed, when the news is something to the effect of Jermaine having another kid or something.
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Wow, that got me all excited! Though, I do hope it's something positive. You know what I mean. I'd feel severely disappointed, when the news is something to the effect of Jermaine having another kid or something.
i feel the same way..it will probably be something stupid..but lets wait and see. BTW does anyone else want to slap Jermaine's wife? :mrgreen:
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Wow, that got me all excited! Though, I do hope it's something positive. You know what I mean. I'd feel severely disappointed, when the news is something to the effect of Jermaine having another kid or something.
i feel the same way..it will probably be something stupid..but lets wait and see. BTW does anyone else want to slap Jermaine's wife? :mrgreen:
LOL...yes... :lol:
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Wow, that got me all excited! Though, I do hope it's something positive. You know what I mean. I'd feel severely disappointed, when the news is something to the effect of Jermaine having another kid or something.
i feel the same way..it will probably be something stupid..but lets wait and see. BTW does anyone else want to slap Jermaine's wife? :mrgreen:
LOL...yes... :lol:
With a fish, definitely.
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Hmm, Im gonna have to agree with the posters who think the announcement will have something to do with Jermaine. Even though there are what I call "references" to the Jackson5 tour and to MJ in the show..i always get the feeling this show should be called "Jermaine..Its ALL about me".
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has everyone read jermaines ex book??? whew! http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books2/jfv/jfv0axxa.html, (http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books2/jfv/jfv0axxa.html,), plus if you click on books imenu,, she's got all books posted there. WOW!
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Oh what a pity! I can't participate i feel so left out! :( i don't have that channel i can't watch the show and i'm not sad for that but if Michael does come back on the show then oh God i'll miss that. I really don't think a reality show that's not even watched by all Americans and half or more of the world don't even know about it (the show) would be the platform Michael should/would use to make the big reveal. This channel is not avialable in this entire region as far as i know and not everyone is going to watch it online cause they don't even know about it. Well, we are not important to the developed states but i guess Michael would care about us. But again, if Jermaine is going to have another baby why on earth would that BLOW OUR MINDS???
I'm so confused and i need the padded cell lol. I don't want to sound selfish but in a way i wish the date would not be January 17, as it's my birthday and i'm scared i'd be waiting the whole day with SO MUCH HOPE and nothing will happen. It would be the worst birth day in my life then. :cry:
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Oh what a pity! I can't participate i feel so left out! :( i don't have that channel i can't watch the show and i'm not sad for that but if Michael does come back on the show then oh God i'll miss that. I really don't think a reality show that's not even watched by all Americans and half or more of the world don't even know about it (the show) would be the platform Michael should/would use to make the big reveal. This channel is not avialable in this entire region as far as i know and not everyone is going to watch it online cause they don't even know about it. Well, we are not important to the developed states but i guess Michael would care about us. But again, if Jermaine is going to have another baby why on earth would that BLOW OUR MINDS???
I'm so confused and i need the padded cell lol. I don't want to sound selfish but in a way i wish the date would not be January 17, as it's my birthday and i'm scared i'd be waiting the whole day with SO MUCH HOPE and nothing will happen. It would be the worst birth day in my life then. :cry:
Jermaine thinks whatever he does is mind-blowing - he actually thinks the whole world is waiting for him to return to the stage.
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I'll just wait and see. Yesterday they showed the first 2 episodes on dutch television, and I don't know when the last episode will be.
If it's something huge, then we will know it here before the end I guess ;)
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What date is the series finale?
24th January.
Sunday in two weeks. "since they can't send it on 25th, Monday, they will do it on Sunday :lol: "
-7Months since MJ's death.
Thought it was the 18th?
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I thought that too :roll:
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one of their new twitters is
ALLJACK5ONS Sun is NOT last episode.It's leading up to our SECRET FINALE next week. very heavy,real emotional stuff. we hope u hv enjoyed our priv sides
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one of their new twitters is
ALLJACK5ONS Sun is NOT last episode.It's leading up to our SECRET FINALE next week. very heavy,real emotional stuff. we hope u hv enjoyed our priv sides
I think it might be the funeral footage, you know.
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Let's just say I'm taping next weeks episodes...haha
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Someone said the last finale episode is on January 25th.. so which is it.. Confusion. They said before the shows even aired that they filmed his funeral for reality series purposes but to be honest I dont want to see his funeral, I saw parts of it in August last year and Ive moved on since then. Real or not, nobody wants to see a funeral twice. Once was enough. It would be distasteful too if the surprise would be having to look at his funeral. What a grand finale, punch us all in the stomach. Then I would know they really are celebrating his death. :roll:
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I think it might be the funeral footage, you know.
I really hope you're not right! :lol:
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it is the 18th. Maybe Janet will be on in Michaels place?
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I heard that there was actually some footage of Michael in these shows because they had filmed some of them before his death. I know that they said they were going to show that episode of Michael being in it but they didnt say when it was going to be. It is a marketing ploy by Jermaine, but of course I will be watching and hoping to see Michael. I absolutely love to hear him talk and I love to see his beautiful eyes once again.
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I think it might be the funeral footage, you know.
I really hope you're not right! :lol:
Well im in the UK and cant get Jermaines stupid show on the TV anyways so i wont be watching. :lol:
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If they're showing some funeral or memorial video/picture, anything releated to MJ's 'death'.. And say
it gonna BLOW.YOUR.MIND they are totally disgusting and have some big problems. :lol:
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If they're showing some funeral or memorial video/picture, anything releated to MJ's 'death'.. And say
it gonna BLOW.YOUR.MIND they are totally disgusting and have some big problems. :lol:
That's what I thought.
When someone says 'This will blow your mind', I expect something fun or interesting or just spectacular! Not a funeral.. How depressing! :lol:
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one of their new twitters is
ALLJACK5ONS Sun is NOT last episode.It's leading up to our SECRET FINALE next week. very heavy,real emotional stuff. we hope u hv enjoyed our priv sides
I think it might be the funeral footage, you know.
That is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this tweet. Oh man, I hope not! I hope they are not that ignorant to END a show with that kind of downer! :twisted:
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I'm not really sure if this is even the real Jermaine, since the account is not vertifed. However, I have heard of Jermaine saying this way before the show even aired. Honsetly, I would love to think that Michael will return on that date or least have a major clue to Michael being alive. But the thing is that I don't trust Jermaine. He is really the MAIN reason why I don't completly believe in the hoax. Despite all the evidence that suggest that Michael is alive, Jermaine is the one thing that stumps me. I don't believe he is part of the hoax and I don't believe that he has Michael's best intrest at heart. But at the same time, I don't see how Michael could keep a secret from Jermaine, especially with the way Jermaine has made himself the spokeperson for Michael and the family. So, as for the thing that will "BLOW. OUR. MINDS. on sunday thing, I think it is just hype. It may not have anything to do with Michael. And if it does, it maybe like some lost footage or something like that. In Jermaine case, I believe anything that comes out of his mouth is no better than the garbage the tabloids printed about Michael on a daily basis.
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If they're showing some funeral or memorial video/picture, anything releated to MJ's 'death'.. And say
it gonna BLOW.YOUR.MIND they are totally disgusting and have some big problems. :lol:
unless of course there's some sort of "big reveal" of michael at the funeral footage. but i guess that's reaching a bit! :P
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Well, something is supposed to "blow our mind" TODAY (Sunday) - that is quite an announcement!
I hope these guys will measure up the expectation ...
However, I do have doubts this Jack5ons twitter account is legit at all ...
If you click on the attached website you`ll find all kind of weird psychics and paranormal stuff .... I just don`t know .
Your thoughts?
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Well, something is supposed to "blow our mind" TODAY (Sunday) - that is quite an announcement!
I hope these guys will measure up the expectation ...
However, I do have doubts this Jack5ons twitter account is legit at all ...
If you click on the attached website you`ll find all kind of weird psychics and paranormal stuff .... I just don`t know .
Your thoughts?
wasn't the big announcement about sunday blowing our minds from a different twitter account? someone posted the account earlier...i think it's mjj_2010 or something like that. they tweeted that sunday will blow our minds, but no one knows who's behind that account.
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MJJ is fake, and today they will show big heavy emotional stuffs they said..
In two weeks they gonnna BLOW.OUR.MINDS
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maybe Michael's kids will be performing?
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one of their new twitters is
ALLJACK5ONS Sun is NOT last episode.It's leading up to our SECRET FINALE next week. very heavy,real emotional stuff. we hope u hv enjoyed our priv sides
The only thing that would really get me emotional is if they would bring on Michael's childeren,I really hope they are not that insensitive.
As for all the other stuff ....I'm not surprised about anything any more with all the odd things that's been going on.
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I haven't watched their reality show yet and probably won't, unless of course Michael is the "mind blowing secret finale" guest. Unfortunately, I think Jermaine's idea of a "mind blowing secret finale" is a new redition of "Let's Get Serious" or maybe "State of Shock". I'm sorry but after Michael left the group, the others just didn't have it. They were cute kids, but my god, they have grown into some ugly ass adults....both mentally and physically. Of course, Jermaine thinks he still has it and can use Michael's good name to make his own comeback. Uh....I don't think so!
Michael...be the "mind blowing secret finale guest".......pllllleeeeeeezzze!
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maybe Michael's kids will be performing?
WOW this is weird we had the same thought at the same time and posted at the same time to.And i'm from the other side of the ocean :)
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GUYS!
LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE ACCOUNT IS NOT LEGIT. IT IS!!
IT'S ON THE A&E JACKSONS FAMILY DYNASTY PAGE AND THEY ARE WAITING TO BE VERIFIED. A&E WOULD NOT PUT A RANDOM TWITTER ON THEIR HOME PAGE!
ALSO, A WOMAN WHO WORKS FOR A&E (JODI SOMETHING) OFTEN TWEETS ABOUT THEIR ACCOUNT AND SAID TO SEND QUESTIONS FOR THE LIVE SHOW TO THAT ACCOUNT.
Sorry for the caps, I'm not shouting, I just wanted to make sure every saw ;)
But yeah.. I'm not saying that just because the account is real, that we should get our hopes up or anything. I think it's odd and I reckon they'll be loads of clues leading to a possible comeback. But like many of you have said.. It'd be stupid to show something that not all the world can see. The show isn't really really popular so it'd be pointless. It's on at 3am in England so that'd be a bit silly seeing as the concerts were all in London, I assume MJ wants England to be involved!
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I haven't watched their reality show yet and probably won't, unless of course Michael is the "mind blowing secret finale" guest. Unfortunately, I think Jermaine's idea of a "mind blowing secret finale" is a new redition of "Let's Get Serious" or maybe "State of Shock". I'm sorry but after Michael left the group, the others just didn't have it. They were cute kids, but my god, they have grown into some ugly ass adults....both mentally and physically. Of course, Jermaine thinks he still has it and can use Michael's good name to make his own comeback. Uh....I don't think so!
Michael...be the "mind blowing secret finale guest".......pllllleeeeeeezzze!
i agree with you...150% :lol: :lol:
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GUYS!
LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE ACCOUNT IS NOT LEGIT. IT IS!!
IT'S ON THE A&E JACKSONS FAMILY DYNASTY PAGE AND THEY ARE WAITING TO BE VERIFIED. A&E WOULD NOT PUT A RANDOM TWITTER ON THEIR HOME PAGE!
ALSO, A WOMAN WHO WORKS FOR A&E (JODI SOMETHING) OFTEN TWEETS ABOUT THEIR ACCOUNT AND SAID TO SEND QUESTIONS FOR THE LIVE SHOW TO THAT ACCOUNT.
Sorry for the caps, I'm not shouting, I just wanted to make sure every saw ;)
But yeah.. I'm not saying that just because the account is real, that we should get our hopes up or anything. I think it's odd and I reckon they'll be loads of clues leading to a possible comeback. But like many of you have said.. It'd be stupid to show something that not all the world can see. The show isn't really really popular so it'd be pointless. It's on at 3am in England so that'd be a bit silly seeing as the concerts were all in London, I assume MJ wants England to be involved!
I GOT THE MESSAGE :lol: You are right it doesn't make sence if the whole world can't see it.
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I haven't watched their reality show yet and probably won't, unless of course Michael is the "mind blowing secret finale" guest. Unfortunately, I think Jermaine's idea of a "mind blowing secret finale" is a new redition of "Let's Get Serious" or maybe "State of Shock". I'm sorry but after Michael left the group, the others just didn't have it. They were cute kids, but my god, they have grown into some ugly ass adults....both mentally and physically. Of course, Jermaine thinks he still has it and can use Michael's good name to make his own comeback. Uh....I don't think so!
Michael...be the "mind blowing secret finale guest".......pllllleeeeeeezzze!
Aww don't be mean :P I love the Jacksons! Marlon is a cutie, I love him!! And Randy is! Jermaine, Tito and Jackie - Well let's face it, they look good for their age. Especially Jackie (almost 60). I'm not attracted to them (MJ does it for me ;) ), but I wouldnt say they were ugly. I think theyre very handsome! :roll: :P
I don't think they're as good at singing as Mike, but they all have talent. Marlon's great at dancing and they've all got a unique voice. I love them all loads but I have to admit, they will never be the same without Mike. He sang most of their songs and your eye was always drawn to him. It just wouldn't work without him :( But I guess if you grew up with the Jacksons (I'm wayy too young), then you'll probably see it differently.
I love them all and would watch their performances but wouldn't go to a concert or buy a record from them without Michael. I'm not bashing them.. But it just wouldn't seem right without him :(
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Oh and as for their personalities...
In my opinion.. The only one I could possibly be pissed at is Jermaine. Although I'm not and I like him, I get why people are mad at him. If this isn't a hoax.. He really does seem to be exploiting MJ's death.
I haven't heard much from Jackie, Marlon and Tito and I've heard nothing from Randy. So I couldn't make a call on it.
Jackie's very sweet and isn't a money grabber. He loves show business like the other two but the only one who really can't wait to get back in the spotlight is Jermaine.
No offense Jermaine, I love ya! But if this isn't a hoax I'ma have to kick your ass!
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You guys say the Jack5son account is on A&E right? Well is it odd that out of the blue A&E has requested to follow me on twitter? I thought maybe they follow everyone who follows them but I checked and they have way more followers than people they are following and besides, why would a TV station want to follow me? I hardly ever tweet.. :roll:
And if they are talking about a possible Jackson four tour then why is there a 5 in there twitter account name? Just curious as they say they are 4 now.... dunno.. :?
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You guys say the Jack5son account is on A&E right? Well is it odd that out of the blue A&E has requested to follow me on twitter? I thought maybe they follow everyone who follows them but I checked and they have way more followers than people they are following and besides, why would a TV station want to follow me? I hardly ever tweet.. :roll:
And if they are talking about a possible Jackson four tour then why is there a 5 in there twitter account name? Just curious as they say they are 4 now.... dunno.. :?
Strange about them wanting to follow you!
And yeah I know.. The Jackson '5' thing seems weird. Why not just the Jacksons? It can never be J5 without Michael really. And if Randy doesn't want to be involved.. Then that makes 4. They may be good at showbiz but not so good at counting ;) I guess that's cos in the song ABC, they only counted 1 2 3! :lol: ;)
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I think they want you to follow them because they want you to read their tweets. Is your account any way related to Michael Jackson talk? I noticed they want as many people as possible to be notified about the grand finale episode, it seems to be important to them and thats why they keep promoting their words. It must be big then.. And I hope so.
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To everyone who thinks they were talking about THIS sunday (January 10th) when they say it will blow your mind, they AREN'T.
They are talking about January 17th (the series finale).
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Jermaine posted another tweet today talking about the suprise finale. :o He tweeted that something heavy and emotional is going to happen. If it's something to do with them releasing an album or going on tour that's gonna make me irritated. :evil: Like who cares. We already know they want to make an album and go on tour. I really do hope MJ still alive(which I still believe he is) because they are really promoting themselves and their upcoming projects. If he really was dead I think that would be very tacky.
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Jermaine posted another tweet today talking about the suprise finale. :o He tweeted that something heavy and emotional is going to happen. If it's something to do with them releasing an album or going on tour that's gonna make me irritated. :evil: Like who cares. We already know they want to make an album and go on tour. I really do hope MJ still alive(which I still believe he is) because they are really promoting themselves and their upcoming projects. If he really was dead I think that would be very tacky.
I have read on another Forum that Michael Jackson was planed somehow for the show, I haven´t seen all episodes of the reality show...but I think it will be that they are talking about the memorial or funeral of Michael Jackson, no comeback that it is why it will be so emotional, we will see...
I do not want to put so much hope into that. There are to many disappointments allready.
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Jermaine posted another tweet today talking about the suprise finale. :o He tweeted that something heavy and emotional is going to happen. If it's something to do with them releasing an album or going on tour that's gonna make me irritated. :evil: Like who cares. We already know they want to make an album and go on tour. I really do hope MJ still alive(which I still believe he is) because they are really promoting themselves and their upcoming projects. If he really was dead I think that would be very tacky.
I have read on another Forum that Michael Jackson was planed somehow for the show, I haven´t seen all episodes of the reality show...but I think it will be that they are talking about the memorial or funeral of Michael Jackson, no comeback that it is why it will be so emotional, we will see...
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Hope I'm wrong :(
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But it will be also something that will be blow our mind... funeral and memorial don't blow are mind...
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Jermaine posted another tweet today talking about the suprise finale. :o He tweeted that something heavy and emotional is going to happen. If it's something to do with them releasing an album or going on tour that's gonna make me irritated. :evil: Like who cares. We already know they want to make an album and go on tour. I really do hope MJ still alive(which I still believe he is) because they are really promoting themselves and their upcoming projects. If he really was dead I think that would be very tacky.
I have read on another Forum that Michael Jackson was planed somehow for the show, I haven´t seen all episodes of the reality show...but I think it will be that they are talking about the memorial or funeral of Michael Jackson, no comeback that it is why it will be so emotional, we will see...
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Hope I'm wrong :(
No I don't think it's anything to do with the memorial or funeral. They've already shown some footage of the funeral on the show and the 911 call so that can't be it. How can memorial footage be a suprise?
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When I read your comments, it made me think that maybe it's the full tape of MJ's funeral, but seriously - this would not blow minds away, this will trigger another wave of fan suicides.
Michael's comeback maybe? Emotional doesn't always mean that it's sad.
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When I read your comments, it made me think that maybe it's the full tape of MJ's funeral, but seriously - this would not blow minds away, this will trigger another wave of fan suicides.
Michael's comeback maybe? Emotional doesn't always mean that it's sad.
I agree with you. Do you guys really think footage of the funeral would "blow our minds?" There are many emotions...not only sadness.
But we can never be too sure. It is Jermaine after all (don't mean to bad mouth him or anything).
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When I read your comments, it made me think that maybe it's the full tape of MJ's funeral, but seriously - this would not blow minds away, this will trigger another wave of fan suicides.
Michael's comeback maybe? Emotional doesn't always mean that it's sad.
er fan suicides??...i thought that was just a rumor over the internet... :? I dont think that Michael would allow his fans to commit suicide over him, if he knew about that which he would through news and media he would def come out of hiding if it were a hoax... so i am pretty sure that that was just a rumor...orr i am def hoping that its just a rumor
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When I read your comments, it made me think that maybe it's the full tape of MJ's funeral, but seriously - this would not blow minds away, this will trigger another wave of fan suicides.
Michael's comeback maybe? Emotional doesn't always mean that it's sad.
er fan suicides??...i thought that was just a rumor over the internet... :? I dont think that Michael would allow his fans to commit suicide over him, if he knew about that which he would through news and media he would def come out of hiding if it were a hoax... so i am pretty sure that that was just a rumor...orr i am def hoping that its just a rumor
There is a reason why people then took suicide, because they loved MJ more than anything on this planet.
-They took their lifes for MJ. Would be worse if they spent all their life crying about MJ being gone.
They who took suicide have problems, and would do this before or later anyways..
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When I read your comments, it made me think that maybe it's the full tape of MJ's funeral, but seriously - this would not blow minds away, this will trigger another wave of fan suicides.
Michael's comeback maybe? Emotional doesn't always mean that it's sad.
er fan suicides??...i thought that was just a rumor over the internet... :? I dont think that Michael would allow his fans to commit suicide over him, if he knew about that which he would through news and media he would def come out of hiding if it were a hoax... so i am pretty sure that that was just a rumor...orr i am def hoping that its just a rumor
I heard that the people who killed themselves were depressed and gonna do it anyway. But MJ's death just pushed them over the edge. It's really sad that some people would feel like that :(
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If the big secret next week is funeral footage, why would that need to be secret?
That wouldn't really blow our minds; the world thinks he's dead. (well, SOME do...)
Not only that, but why promote it and promote it and promote it?
This is going to sound rude, but come on! Funeral footage? Why would that be OMG SO MIND BLOWING?
I still think it has to do with Michael. It can't be a coincidence that their ZOMG SECRET PLANS LOL is the day before MLK day.
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If the big secret next week is funeral footage, why would that need to be secret?
That wouldn't really blow our minds; the world thinks he's dead. (well, SOME do...)
Not only that, but why promote it and promote it and promote it?
This is going to sound rude, but come on! Funeral footage? Why would that be OMG SO MIND BLOWING?
I still think it has to do with Michael. It can't be a coincidence that their ZOMG SECRET PLANS LOL is the day before MLK day.
Who knows with the Jackson familys strange behaviour. Michael was the most normal person I have to say.
They probably gonna show us that they're practicing for a come-back named This Is Really It.
I think it gonna blow.our.mind away from this planet, because what they gonna show us will probably be ridiculous.
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Do you not think Jermaine should be concentrating on the fact his brother has been murdered and that his murderer is yet to be arrested.
Should he not be tweeting about todays news about Murray... instead of incessently promoting his pathetic reality show?
I mean.. come one.. what is the matter with Jermaine? Does he not realise that he would be no-one if not for Michael and that actually none of us care about the rest of the family.,.. they have enough money now to go away quietly and live of MJs riches and stop being in our faces.
If MJ really has died, then Jermaine and the rest of the family failed MJ anyway for not supporting him and helping him when he needed them the most.
It just makes me angry.
While I appreciate & respect everyone's opinions and views, I do not like people talking for me!! I, for one and maybe the only one, happen to like the Jackson's show and am not sure Michael would like people putting his family down. We know Michael had ups & downs with his family, who doesn't. I don't think he would like to read how some talk about them. They are his family and he loves them very much! I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, I just do not appreciate people speaking for me. Thanks and lets remember what Michael is wanting us to do and that is to L.O.V.E one another, and that includes his family!! : ))
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While I appreciate & respect everyone's opinions and views, I do not like people talking for me!! I, for one and maybe the only one, happen to like the Jackson's show and am not sure Michael would like people putting his family down. We know Michael had ups & downs with his family, who doesn't. I don't think he would like to read how some talk about them. They are his family and he loves them very much! I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, I just do not appreciate people speaking for me. Thanks and lets remember what Michael is wanting us to do and that is to L.O.V.E one another, and that includes his family!! : ))
Well said :) I actually like all the Jacksons (yes Michael is my favourite, but I respect them all and think they're all incredible). I hope this thread doesn't turn into an 'I hate the Jacksons' thread because they don't deserve that hate!
Every family has it's ups and downs. I know mine does. Just cos they're a famous family doesn't mean they're any different and I'm certain they love eachother loads! We don't know how they act when the cameras are off.
Oh and I also like the show. I enjoy seeing what the Jacksons are really like and it makes me feel a little closer to Michael. I don't know why. But if I see a 'clue' it makes me feel better.
No disrespect to anyone, because I understand all your views and opinions, but, I get really confused. We're all saying that Michael is alive and well.. But then we all judge Jermaine (in particular) for acting like MJ is not dead? :S It's confusing! If MJ is alive, then how else can Jermaine act? It must be hard to pretend your brother is dead. I wouldn't be able to do that if it were me. But then again, I do understand why people feel he's trying to cash in and profit off MJ's 'passing' but I don't think all the hate is needed ;)
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Look some of us are not as forgiving of things some members of this family has done as Michael, Latoya said publicly he molested children just to hurt him and Jermaine wrote a song putting Michael down horribly, I try to keep an open mind I do not have problems with the other members of his family except Joe but I do not trust anything that comes from Joe, Jermaine or Latoya, they have a track record of hurting Michael. I will not go out and talk bad about them(what I listed above is in public records) but I do not trust or want anything to do with them they are only what I consider as tolerable. No one should ever do what they have done to another family member. If Michael is around I will do what I have done for years put a smile on my face and keep quiet as this loving soul never deserved what was done to him. That is just my 2 cents. I really hope Jermaine is being truthful for once and it will be a big welcome surprise not something we already know the J4 will be touring
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Look some of us are not as forgiving of things some members of this family has done as Michael, Latoya said publicly he molested children just to hurt him and Jermaine wrote a song putting Michael down horribly, I try to keep an open mind I do not have problems with the other members of his family except Joe but I do not trust anything that comes from Joe, Jermaine or Latoya, they have a track record of hurting Michael. I will not go out and talk bad about them(what I listed above is in public records) but I do not trust or want anything to do with them they are only what I consider as tolerable. No one should ever do what they have done to another family member. If Michael is around I will do what I have done for years put a smile on my face and keep quiet as this loving soul never deserved what was done to him. That is just my 2 cents. I really hope Jermaine is being truthful for once and it will be a big welcome surprise not something we already know the J4 will be touring
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!!! :D :D
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Every family has it's ups and downs. I know mine does. Just cos they're a famous family doesn't mean they're any different and I'm certain they love eachother loads! We don't know how they act when the cameras are off.
Oh and I also like the show. I enjoy seeing what the Jacksons are really like and it makes me feel a little closer to Michael. I don't know why. But if I see a 'clue' it makes me feel better.
No disrespect to anyone, because I understand all your views and opinions, but, I get really confused. We're all saying that Michael is alive and well.. But then we all judge Jermaine (in particular) for acting like MJ is not dead? :S It's confusing! If MJ is alive, then how else can Jermaine act? It must be hard to pretend your brother is dead. I wouldn't be able to do that if it were me. But then again, I do understand why people feel he's trying to cash in and profit off MJ's 'passing' but I don't think all the hate is needed ;)
[I totally agree with you MJ-Fan! That's what I keep trying to figure out. Michael is believed to be alive having faked his death, and yet people what to criticize his family for not acting like MJ is gone. Please tell me how they are supposed to handle this, especially if they know he is indeed still among us. I also think it possible that their show could be all part of the plan also. I do not agree with then cashing in on MJ's supposed death. I think all the Jackson's are very well off and need no one elses money. Remember who told the world that MJ was broke and that his family was penny-less. THE MEDIA!! And what have we been told by MJ concerning the media? NOT to beLIEve everything they tell us!! Look at their homes on the show, now whether they are really theirs or not we don't know, but if you go by how their homes look and their lifestyles then they are not broke or needing Michael's money. Just my opinion, and again not trying to upset anyone, these are just my thoughts!! ]
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Look some of us are not as forgiving of things some members of this family has done as Michael, Latoya said publicly he molested children just to hurt him and Jermaine wrote a song putting Michael down horribly, I try to keep an open mind I do not have problems with the other members of his family except Joe but I do not trust anything that comes from Joe, Jermaine or Latoya, they have a track record of hurting Michael. I will not go out and talk bad about them(what I listed above is in public records) but I do not trust or want anything to do with them they are only what I consider as tolerable. No one should ever do what they have done to another family member. If Michael is around I will do what I have done for years put a smile on my face and keep quiet as this loving soul never deserved what was done to him. That is just my 2 cents. I really hope Jermaine is being truthful for once and it will be a big welcome surprise not something we already know the J4 will be touring
I understand you completely. All I meant was, all families have ups and down. Sure, What LaToya, Joe and Jermaine did to Michael crossed a line. But I don't want to dwell on it. Michael forgave them and although I'll never forget it, I don't want to feel a hatred towards them because of it. Michael loves LaToya loads, he was extremely close with Jermaine and thought his father was a genius. But I totally get what you're saying. Some things are too far to be considered family arguements. But all I wanted to say was, that's in the past, and I don't think the hate they get now is nice. Because I don't know how people want them to act. If they don't do something, they'll be called selfish and people will say they never cared about MJ. If they do what they're doing now, then people call them money grabbers and insensitive. They can't win really.
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Some of Jerm's tweets are kinda depressing tonight...
http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS (http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS)
Last tweet. My Mother, Mrs. Katherine Jackson says hello and sends her love and loyalty. She and Michael's kids are doing well. Goodnight 18 minutes ago from web
Seriously,we joke a lot, but can't thank you enough 4 the past 40 years and outpouring when my brother Michael Jackson passed. We.Luv.U.4Eva 33 minutes ago from web
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Jermaine was tweeting again today and on one of his tweets he mentioned that he doesn't like to watch himself on tv? Oh really Mr. I can't get enough of myself. :roll: Anyway he also said that he watched the lastest episode and he said something like it reminded him of like a movie. A movie?????? :shock:
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Jermaine was tweeting again today and on one of his tweets he mentioned that he doesn't like to watch himself on tv? Oh really Mr. I can't get enough of myself. :roll: Anyway he also said that he watched the lastest episode and he said something like it reminded him of like a movie. A movie?????? :shock:
you should use exact quotes that he used so us members that dont have twitter can see what he twitted and see the WHOLE quote that way we can see what ur talking about please :)
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To i_needYoU : Here is the exact quote from twitter. I copy and paste it here.
i personally can't watch myself on tv. it's hard, but i did see the final shows and think they are amazing. looks like a mini-movie JJ
about 4 hours ago from web
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That's the direct quote coming straight from Jermaine Jackson's mouth. From the Jacksons official Twitter.
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hmm what a loser jermaine...i love how he had to state that he doesnt like seeing him on tv before he said that he watched the shows lol...
Maybe he is trying to hint that he wants those shows to run together and be put into a movie..which would be idiotic...aww poor jermaine he really wants to get out there doesnt he??...Sorry Jermaine I think this is the furthest you are going to go :D
But still Peace to him really because i dont wanna Dis the family any longer
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I don't know, but I'm kinda sick of this... If Michael hadn't "died" they would not have had have of the success their having now .. And I dont wanna sound rude but this is so true you can see it with your eyes closed.. I think they just want the attention they never had because of Michael
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well, hear is what the program guide on my tv says for the final episode.." The brothers remain split in two camps after having made the difficult decision to cancel the reunion concert. A visit to a juvenile detention center provides inspiration." Im thinking the big surprise is that after they announce the cancelled concert at the beginning of the show...right at the end they announce its back on and that the tv show will also continue past its original 6 episodes
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I say they kind of went down a level if they are seeking attention lol i mean they went from singing to uh REALITY SERIES...c'mon usually reality stars disappear because they are so easily replaced with newer interesting things...Sorry Jermaine but if you want to think of doing something to get back in the lime light it will take something a little bigger than a tv series...And no matter what they do people are going to say...Who Is Jermaine Jackson...people will reply Oh Thats MICHAELS brother...it will NEVER be the other way around although Jermaine is the older one heehee...I still love you Jermaine but you need to know that this is all unneccessary...Gotta learn to back down hun :D LOVE you Jermaine really dont think i am bashing him please its just IMHO
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Recent post: http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS (http://twitter.com/ALLJACK5ONS)
it's unfortunate people pose as us & use fan clubs to create false hope. that's never what we've been about.Michael either. We r about love. 23 minutes ago from web
Regarding "fan clubs to create false hope" - I hope that wasn't a shot at the hoax sites. :?
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If MJ is really dead, then i really want Jermaine to go away and be quiet somewhere.
I dont care about his pathetic reality show that MJ wanted nothing to do with.
lool..! The same thing here !!! :D
I never ever had interest in the jacksons bros !!
the only reason I'm following their news is because of MJ !!!! :oops:
I hope they know that because if they don't their waisting both our time and thier's :!:
But lets just wait and see :cry:
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Newest tweet from Jodigomes about the Jacksons.
Seems pretty interesting BUT it also makes me think they're just planning a comeback for the four of them. Maybe Janet or Randy will join.
Thoughts?! :/
jodigomes Sunday show reveals future for @alljack5ons. Tune in 4 answers. Remember,so much more to come from J5.I see them daily,they never stop!
Although she does say, so much more to come from J5. How can they be the J5 without Michael?
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Newest tweet from Jodigomes about the Jacksons.
Seems pretty interesting BUT it also makes me think they're just planning a comeback for the four of them. Maybe Janet or Randy will join.
Thoughts?! :/
jodigomes Sunday show reveals future for @alljack5ons. Tune in 4 answers. Remember,so much more to come from J5.I see them daily,they never stop!
Although she does say, so much more to come from J5. How can they be the J5 without Michael?
Exactly, there is no J5 without Michael sorry. If that's the suprise that they are going to reveal to continue with Janet or Randy then that's a suprise they can keep to themselves. I don't think J5 will go very far without Michael to be honest because they are talented but Michael made that group with his voice and passion. That's why his own momma wouldn't allow him to go solo when he was 17 even though he wanted to she made him stay because she knew once Michael left that no one would be interested in the rest of the brothers. Which proved to be true when Michael went solo. Even Janet doesn't have the star power like she use to. She need to upgrade on her dance moves too. Even when Michael performed back in 2001 he was still a sick dancer like still in his 20's. Jermaine crack me up on the reality show when he got insulted when the guy booked the hotel lobby for them to perform and he was like this is not acceptable because the Jacksons are not a hotel act. :roll: Jermaine need to humble himself because none of those brothers have had a hit solo record since the 1980's. I'm not trying to bash them but it's a fact. :!:
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Ok i really hate to bring them down but they will never be that succesful without Michael Jackson in their group. I really do wish them all the best and hope they get far in what they are trying to reach for. I just don't see them being that successful in this particular field. I know they have fans of them from when they were in the younger years and they will always have fans. I just dont think they will have enough fans to be big...just a mediocre. Best wishes to them all though lol
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@JacksonSource tweeted a few times within the last hour that Jermaine has a new account. For those following TS, I suppose you know why: don't want to bump off that last tweet. :P
The account isn't verified yet, but the news comes from JacksonSource which is pretty credible.
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Dk if this is true or not but seems he's on now
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I was on twitter today and I came across another account for Jermaine but I thought he was just using the alljack5on account to tweet. He hasn't tweeted on that acoount for a long time. I was wondering why he hasn't tweeted lately about anything. The account could be fake because it not verified who knows but neither is the all Jack5on account. I came across this account because I went to Omer's page and he sent a tweet to someone name Rose Jackson. So I checked out that page. Who the heck is Rose Jackson? They also say their location is Neverland. Here's link to the Jermaine Twitter: http://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
Kinda funny it has jerm in the name like germ.
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yes it's his personal real account :)
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yes it's his personal real account :)
Oh wow so no wonder he doesn't use the other Twitter account anymore. He needs to get it verified though.
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Check this out:
http://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
And i will copy and paste tweets and the pic he just posted:
# @LA97496 I agree, I will bling it up half a minute ago via web in reply to LA97496
Wardrobe Mood Board - gotta keep that Jackson look on stage! http://twitpic.com/252wbs (http://twitpic.com/252wbs) 10 minutes ago via Twitpic
Just went for my wardrobe fitting, looking forward to the big day 18 minutes ago
@jacksonsource will do in time. about 18 hours ago via web
having a major production meeting, don't like meetings, boring, let's get to the juicy stuff like the actual show
(http://web3.twitpic.com/img/129465640-4173b405a47830555fe8b75dbf0e08d8.4c3d1a20-scaled.jpg)
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WHAT THE HELL IS THE DEAL WITH THE ARMBAND ? :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Look at the white shirt with red band and red shoulder stripes
Remind you of anything???
[youtube:16lk5moz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t55J6Op_5oE[/youtube:16lk5moz]
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OMG, :shock: tell me this is a joke. I HATE how he's trying to fit into Michael's shoes. I don't like it one bit. Hopefully those costumes are really just clues of what's to come. :? He does have a slightly devilish look in his eyes ;) as if to say, gotcha.
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wow this is frickin wierd
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jermaine is wierd
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OMG, :shock: tell me this is a joke. I HATE how he's trying to fit into Michael's shoes. I don't like it one bit. Hopefully those costumes are really just clues of what's to come. :? He does have a slightly devilish look in his eyes ;) as if to say, gotcha.
I agree.. if Jermaine is trying to step into Michaels shoes and take over,, and if he is trying to take Michaels fans, the man is delusional.
I also find this in extremely bad taste... where is the respect for MJ and where is the respect for the feelings of MJs fans???
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AHH Jermaine, where would we be without ya??
I find more interesting his other tweet from today,
Hey Twitter! I need to double my following by Thursday! Help me out spread the word. RETWEET
that was from about an hour ago....
Why by Thursday??
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That's weird he sure is using Mike's style huh? Wow that shirt 2 familiar lols u can't trick us Jermaine lols :lol:
Now how abt that Blue Military jacket at the bottom right hand???
Hmmm any1 seen it....????
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/JK8dAlx2IHQ/0.jpg)
Michael at the 25th NAACP Image Awards :D :D :D
Great Style Jermaine ;)
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is it just me or do todays surroundings not look quite as lavish as the ones from the article recently?
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This guy cant pay his own way without Michael, cant think without Michael, cant walk, talk or crap without Michael. Hell, he cant even dress himself without Michael. Sorry, but Jermmmy is really getting on my last nerve. :evil:
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That's kinda strange that Jermaine is showing the costumes for upcoming show like that. The way he's holding the poster hiding part of his face except his eyes. Why are all those outfits MJ's style? I've been a believer that Jermaine puts out clues to let us know MJ is still alive so maybe this is part of it. Like the recent photo shoot with his family he had those sun flower coffee mugs in the cabinet so they could be seen in the pic. It better be because if Jermaine was doing this for his own self promotion that would be trifling. MJ has to be alive the way his family be acting. There's no way he could be dead and they be so cold blooded. That's my opinion.
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That's weird he sure is using Mike's style huh? Wow that shirt 2 familiar lols u can't trick us Jermaine lols :lol:
Now how abt that Blue Military jacket at the bottom right hand???
Hmmm any1 seen it....????
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/JK8dAlx2IHQ/0.jpg)
Michael at the 25th NAACP Image Awards :D :D :D
Great Style Jermaine ;)
OH MY GOD.. its EXACTLY the same!!!
So now we got TWO exact matches to Michaels wardrobes.. what the heck is going on??
And like the other poster said.. why by THURSDAY??
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Look at the white shirt with red band and red shoulder stripes
Remind you of anything???
[youtube:neydf0x4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t55J6Op_5oE[/youtube:neydf0x4]
You bring up an excellent point. I wonder if these outfits represent different periods in Michael's life. It looks like Jermaine has a smile on his face and it makes me think he's not really serious. I don't get the feeling that he's trying to take Michael's place - and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong. I get the feeling that we're missing the point to the message. L.O.V.E.
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Whomever is following him should ask him why he is copying Michaels clothes. Actually, some of look like they ARE Michaels clothes. Just to see what or if he replies. :?
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Check this out:
http://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
And i will copy and paste tweets and the pic he just posted:
# @LA97496 I agree, I will bling it up half a minute ago via web in reply to LA97496
Wardrobe Mood Board - gotta keep that Jackson look on stage! http://twitpic.com/252wbs (http://twitpic.com/252wbs) 10 minutes ago via Twitpic
Just went for my wardrobe fitting, looking forward to the big day 18 minutes ago
@jacksonsource will do in time. about 18 hours ago via web
having a major production meeting, don't like meetings, boring, let's get to the juicy stuff like the actual show
Oh my, I am totally freaking out right now! :shock: I am in total shock. I cannot believe this. :shock: How can this be true?
1. No one in the world can have my Daddy MJ's style. No one in the world can rock his style. I mean no one.
2. Why would Jermaine do this to MJ fans? I am a committed MJ fan from the top of my head down to my toes. I cannot handle this. I am in shock. :shock:
3, I think this is a very bad move on Jermaine's part. It is just too hard for MJ fans like me to bare. :cry: I have spent a over a year without MJ. I miss my angel with all my heart and my soul. :cry:
4. Unless, this is so kind of cyptic message from MJ. Maybe, this is what MJ's new wardobe will be when he returns to the stage. I hope this is the case. Otherwise, I am seriously hurt by this. :cry:
Look at the white shirt with red band and red shoulder stripes
Remind you of anything???
[youtube:1hyi4e0i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t55J6Op_5oE[/youtube:1hyi4e0i]
You bring up an excellent point. I wonder if these outfits represent different periods in Michael's life. It looks like Jermaine has a smile on his face and it makes me think he's not really serious. I don't get the feeling that he's trying to take Michael's place - and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong. I get the feeling that we're missing the point to the message. L.O.V.E.
That is exactly what came to my mind is MJ in Man in the Mirror. I hope that you are right, voiceforthesilent, that Jermaine isnt being serious, and that I am just missing the point of his new wardobe. :? :?: God bless you, for your comforting words and your love! xxxxx
That's weird he sure is using Mike's style huh? Wow that shirt 2 familiar lols u can't trick us Jermaine lols :lol:
Now how abt that Blue Military jacket at the bottom right hand???
Hmmm any1 seen it....????
(http://img.youtube.com/vi/JK8dAlx2IHQ/0.jpg)
Michael at the 25th NAACP Image Awards :D :D :D
Great Style Jermaine ;)
OH MY GOD.. its EXACTLY the same!!!
So now we got TWO exact matches to Michaels wardrobes.. what the heck is going on??
And like the other poster said.. why by THURSDAY??
Oh my, DancingTheDream, does MJ look so perfect and so handsome in his regal military jacket at the 25th NAACP Image Awards. I love his speech and his message at this presentation. God bless you, DancingTheDream!
MJ, baby, no one in the world can ever take your place in our hearts! You are our beloved angel and you are our hearts. I love you so much and miss you more and more with each passing day. I will never stop loving you. Please come home to us, baby! xxxxxxx
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i believe the object is to find the event for which michael wore the outfit and listen to what he says. for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNa ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNakus&feature=related) listen to this speech. its all a part of the why. so please stop doggin jermaine and thank him for his help.
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Gosh, I can only hope Jermaine is providing another clue. These all look like MJ's style. In fact, with the armband...it is MJ's style!!!! And, doesn't that costume immediately beneath "Jermaine" look like the costume top worn by the ushers at the supposed funeral service at Forrest Lawn???? Freaky!!!!! Yes, and Jermaine's eyes (peeking over the top of the sheet) reminds me of MJ's "Dangerous" album cover. All peculiar, to say the least!!!!
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i believe the object is to find the event for which michael wore the outfit and listen to what he says. for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNa ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNakus&feature=related) listen to this speech. its all a part of the why. so please stop doggin jermaine and thank him for his help.
Thanks - that's what I think too. I believe Jermaine is just pointing us in a direction. I think we are too quick to judge his intentions. Let's look for the message being handed to us.
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i believe the object is to find the event for which michael wore the outfit and listen to what he says. for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNa ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNakus&feature=related) listen to this speech. its all a part of the why. so please stop doggin jermaine and thank him for his help.
Thanks - that's what I think too. I believe Jermaine is just pointing us in a direction. I think we are too quick to judge his intentions. Let's look for the message being handed to us.
So - to start a list:
1) One outfit is from the NAACP Awards show in 1994 when he was facing his first set of allegations. His speech was great - talking about the judicial system.
2) The white shirt w/red when singing Man in the Mirror was done when....?
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
They did but this almost exactly the same
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This may be a silly question but do you guys know what big day/show Jermaine is talking about?
As you may have read in this forum, there was a dance competition in the spring on television in The Netherlands (Move like Michael Jackson) and the winner of this show is so lucky to dance on stage at the tribute concert for Michael this summer/autumn in London. Strangely enough, I never heard anything about this tribute concert ever since.
Is it possible that this is stage clothing for Michael himself?? And that he was still not ready to come back and that's the reason there's no time set for the tribute concert?
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we don't know why Jermaine did that,if he wants to copy Michael or if it's a clue..i think there is a part for copy..
All of us know there is a story of jealousy between the brothers and i really don't know what to think about that but i have tweet Jermaine
@jermjackson5 hey Jermaine you know ..i don't want to blame you but i want to know why are you copying Michaels clothes for your show?
@jermjackson5 i really don't understand it's strange ..Michael is sole,unique..it belongs to him i really really really think it's unhealthy
I don't want to be unkind because i don't know the truth but if one day we learn it's for a bad reason i will not be kind ..
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I guess Jermaine is playing "substitue Michael", just stepping in or better jumping at the golden opportunity to present himself to MJ`s fanbase ... a new career perspective.
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..I am a fashion designer..and I can tell you that presentation looks very not professional. Can someone please enlarge the notes written at the right down corner?
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It's very obvious,that Jermaines Costumes are very similar with Michaels....
These are just a little collection I found...
Maybe someone could try another pictures of Michael with these Outfits???
Have to go now...bye
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This is going WAY off the wall but look really really close into Jermaine's eyes in the first photo in this thread. I've often said Jermaine reminds me of Murray and there was a tweet *I cant remember who's but one of the Brothers it was* but the tweet said something to the effect of Good people come in many forms or packages.....something to that effect.....ok run with me here.......Michael is posing as his own Brother or Brothers on occasion, not every time we see them but some of the time, just like with Murray and Dave Dave. Nothing can make me believe otherwise on this. It's a strong feeling and it just will not go away.
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This is going WAY off the wall but look really really close into Jermaine's eyes in the first photo in this thread. I've often said Jermaine reminds me of Murray and there was a tweet *I cant remember who's but one of the Brothers it was* but the tweet said something to the effect of Good people come in many forms or packages.....something to that effect.....ok run with me here.......Michael is posing as his own Brother or Brothers on occasion, not every time we see them but some of the time, just like with Murray and Dave Dave. Nothing can make me believe otherwise on this. It's a strong feeling and it just will not go away.
i'll go you one crazier . sometimes i have wondered if he wasn't masquerading as his ;) own mother. usually about then someone comes along with these pills and a funny jacket :o
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i have found some pictures,they are not exactly the same costumes but almost..! !
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an other
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i have found some pictures,they are not exactly the same costumes but almost..! !
that first pic is from the set of pics with his brothers. Can you be fair and show the pic of all of them standing together?
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"JeRmaine"
we know someone who uses caps in the middle of a word??? :roll:
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"JeRmaine"
we know someone who uses caps in the middle of a word??? :roll:
I was just thinking the same thing!!!!!!!!! :)
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It's very obvious,that Jermaines Costumes are very similar with Michaels....
These are just a little collection I found...
Maybe someone could try another pictures of Michael with these Outfits???
Have to go now...bye
Yeeees, Victory tour eraaaaaa (http://images.doctissimo.fr/humour/photo/2484909248/gifs-nimes-scions/ola-6016975a44.gif)
Can you feel it!!!???!!! :lol:
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Looks like MJ has been busy getting to draw the collection!
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these are not jermaine's custumes. These are Michael's costumes, Jermaine doesnt even wear these type custumes unless he's the king of pop or hes performing, but i never seen jermaine in those type of military costumes
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Thank you Jermaine ! I really love all these jackets ! I so would like to have one !
Maybe these are the jackets for the soldiers of LOVE. You know an army has special clothes and every soldier must wear the same "costume". Ah I already imagine myself in one of them...
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
They did but this almost exactly the same
Not like these they dont. and the armband is all Michaels look.
Teerockjelli.. if you have prove, please post... but these are MJs looks and not J5 or Jermaines.
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
I was thinking the same thing. :)
IMO it is not so weird. The outfits are similar yes but he did say "gotta keep that Jackson look onstage" and is most likely meant to represent a tribute rather than a copy-cat. He will probably change the outfits enough so that it is more "Jermaine" style (ie the knee high boots) and less 'Michael" style. Like, he's not going to rock the show wearing ankle length pants and black loafers, wearing one sparkly glove. :lol: Don't forget they ALL wore military like clothing during the Victory tour. Michael just kept it going. :)
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
I was thinking the same thing. :)
IMO it is not so weird. The outfits are similar yes but he did say "gotta keep that Jackson look onstage" and is most likely meant to represent a tribute rather than a copy-cat. He will probably change the outfits enough so that it is more "Jermaine" style (ie the knee high boots) and less 'Michael" style. Like, he's not going to rock the show wearing ankle length pants and black loafers, wearing one sparkly glove. :lol: Don't forget they ALL wore military like clothing during the Victory tour. Michael just kept it going. :)
please post pics... as i have already posted pics that are exactly the same as what MJ wore... exactly the same.. not in the same style.
The blue one at the top looks like the one they wore in Victory which the dancers wore to the funeral.
Can you post pics to illustrate the points you are trying to prove?
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i believe the object is to find the event for which michael wore the outfit and listen to what he says. for example
[youtube:2g6mxrwi]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZEkJFNakus&feature=related[/youtube:2g6mxrwi] listen to this speech. its all a part of the why. so please stop doggin jermaine and thank him for his help.
Thanks - that's what I think too. I believe Jermaine is just pointing us in a direction. I think we are too quick to judge his intentions. Let's look for the message being handed to us.
So - to start a list:
1) One outfit is from the NAACP Awards show in 1994 when he was facing his first set of allegations. His speech was great - talking about the judicial system.
2) The white shirt w/red when singing Man in the Mirror was done when....?
He performed Man In The Mirror 1992 in Bucharest on the Dangerous tour wearing that shirt. That wuld make a year before 1st allegations :D
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Thank you Jermaine ! I really love all these jackets ! I so would like to have one !
Maybe these are the jackets for the soldiers of LOVE. You know an army has special clothes and every soldier must wear the same "costume". Ah I already imagine myself in one of them...
OMG OMG...I love that idea!!!!
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
I was thinking the same thing. :)
IMO it is not so weird. The outfits are similar yes but he did say "gotta keep that Jackson look onstage" and is most likely meant to represent a tribute rather than a copy-cat. He will probably change the outfits enough so that it is more "Jermaine" style (ie the knee high boots) and less 'Michael" style. Like, he's not going to rock the show wearing ankle length pants and black loafers, wearing one sparkly glove. :lol: Don't forget they ALL wore military like clothing during the Victory tour. Michael just kept it going. :)
please post pics... as i have already posted pics that are exactly the same as what MJ wore... exactly the same.. not in the same style.
The blue one at the top looks like the one they wore in Victory which the dancers wore to the funeral.
Can you post pics to illustrate the points you are trying to prove?
Hi :)
I guess my point is that since the Jackson bros wore similar styles, I didn't think it was all that odd...
Jermaine's outfits' uncanny resemblance to Michael's could be an attempt at a tribute. We don't know what was going through the man's brain when he chose these outfits. I'm just stating it as one possibility. Like I said in my earlier post, Jermaine would probably mix the outfits to match his own style so it would not be so blindingly obvious that they are Michael's looks... But copying them in a form of respect, much like they wore armbands and single sparkly gloves at the memorial.
Here's a few pics that show what I had in mind regarding the brother's similar outfits. :)
This is just my opinion though, I'm not claiming to be correct. 8-)
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i thought he was trying to copy MJ at first aswell, but you know what that is just not so.... Mj's outfits and Jermaines all originates from the Jackson5 era.
If you look at Photage from lets say Victory tour in 1984 you will see that they all have these same outfits on, not just MJ. And if he took some extra inspiration for his upcoming show to honor his brother, why cant we just let him do that?
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He is back!
Getting custom made bases - the "J Base" - which one do you think I'll choose? They are both slightly different...
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He is back!
Getting custom made bases - the "J Base" - which one do you think I'll choose? They are both slightly different...
And now he's kinda copying Prince, lol! :lol: Idk, the armband could just be seen as a tribute to his brother ya know...
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Can anyone blow up the picture and read the writing on the bass? I cant do it and cant read it.
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He just posted this:
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Can anyone blow up the picture and read the writing on the bass? I cant do it and cant read it.
"You really __ love this message. : ) Jermaine Jackson"
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Can anyone blow up the picture and read the writing on the bass? I cant do it and cant read it.
"You really __ love this message. : ) Jermaine Jackson"
Thats what it says??? How odd.
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He just posted this:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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C'mon Jermaine do your "slip-up" job
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Can anyone blow up the picture and read the writing on the bass? I cant do it and cant read it.
"You really __ love this message. : ) Jermaine Jackson"
Thats what it says??? How odd.
I can't figure out the "__"
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Can anyone blow up the picture and read the writing on the bass? I cant do it and cant read it.
"You really __ love this message. : ) Jermaine Jackson"
Thats what it says??? How odd.
I can't figure out the "__"
Or...
"I'm really at love this basses. : ) Jermaine Jackson"
Doesn't make much sense.. :?
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i tried to see what's written on there as well. i'm usually good at 'deciphering' ppls handwritings, this one doesn't come out sharp enough to read it. it's prob just a line to let the designer know which one he picks. i can make out this: 'Yo Randy. I love this design. Jermaine Jackson'. i'm guessing the designer's name could be randy, not an uncommon name. i guess they will be sent back to the workshop by messenger or someone picks them up.
about the costumes: i pretty much feel like most here - that mike-imitation jermaine has been pulling off is actually counterproductive, if he wants to show ppl that he can be 'his own jackson'. it's pretty obvious to me that he can't (or doesn't want to) and this is his chance to finally be in the limelight. i think he does have some serious issues he should take care of before entering a stage. the jackets are so 'mike', it's almost painful to watch those sketches with jermaine's name on there. on their jackson 5 site, there is a pic of him wearing all-black ray bans and the signature under the pic said: 'jermaine and his signature eyewear'...since when are black aviator ray bans jermaine's signature eyewear??? hellooo??? and he totally killed 'you are not alone' in his gambia-concert, wearing a mike-style white t-shirt and black pants with a stripe on the side...
i have no idea what jermaine thinks this is gonna be good for. it's not. especially picking songs outside his own vocal range.
there are a lot of comments on twitter on the clothes, saying the same thing: this is strictly mike-style, not 'jackson-style'! it's really beyond weird...he should be at home with his pregnant wife and prepare for his twin daughters to arrive. just cool down for a minute. this 'i'm mike's backbone'-thing just don't sit right with me.
:mrgreen:
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Whoa he is receiving some nasty tweets..how disgusting,.................................
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 http://twitpic.com/25lfwy (http://twitpic.com/25lfwy) - Jermaine, noone gives a shit about you or your wife that thinks she is all that! Put a hijab on th
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 CONSIDER YOURSELF VIRTUALLY SMACKED!
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 http://twitpic.com/25lfwy (http://twitpic.com/25lfwy) - Jermaine, you had 1197 views in 5 min for a BULLSHIT pic, why not use this exposure to name names
MUZIKfactory2
WHY WON'T THEY USE THIS EXPOSURE TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!
MUZIKfactory2
OMG 1138 VIEWS IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES FOR A BULLSHIT PICTURE!!!!!
14 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet
Justice4MJJ
How did I miss that, EVIL Jerm's WIFE has a twitter too...they've no real talent, their kids WILL NEVER be like MJ or MJ's kids #realityslap
16 minutes ago via web
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Whoa he is receiving some nasty tweets..how disgusting,.................................
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 http://twitpic.com/25lfwy (http://twitpic.com/25lfwy) - Jermaine, noone gives a shit about you or your wife that thinks she is all that! Put a hijab on th
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 CONSIDER YOURSELF VIRTUALLY SMACKED!
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 http://twitpic.com/25lfwy (http://twitpic.com/25lfwy) - Jermaine, you had 1197 views in 5 min for a BULLSHIT pic, why not use this exposure to name names
MUZIKfactory2
WHY WON'T THEY USE THIS EXPOSURE TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!
MUZIKfactory2
OMG 1138 VIEWS IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES FOR A BULLSHIT PICTURE!!!!!
14 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet
Justice4MJJ
How did I miss that, EVIL Jerm's WIFE has a twitter too...they've no real talent, their kids WILL NEVER be like MJ or MJ's kids #realityslap
16 minutes ago via web
Is it necessary to post this, i mean really?
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Whoa he is receiving some nasty tweets..how disgusting,.................................
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 http://twitpic.com/25lfwy (http://twitpic.com/25lfwy) - Jermaine, noone gives a shit about you or your wife that thinks she is all that! Put a hijab on th
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 CONSIDER YOURSELF VIRTUALLY SMACKED!
MUZIKfactory2
@jermjackson5 http://twitpic.com/25lfwy (http://twitpic.com/25lfwy) - Jermaine, you had 1197 views in 5 min for a BULLSHIT pic, why not use this exposure to name names
MUZIKfactory2
WHY WON'T THEY USE THIS EXPOSURE TO SEEK JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL!
MUZIKfactory2
OMG 1138 VIEWS IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES FOR A BULLSHIT PICTURE!!!!!
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Justice4MJJ
How did I miss that, EVIL Jerm's WIFE has a twitter too...they've no real talent, their kids WILL NEVER be like MJ or MJ's kids #realityslap
16 minutes ago via web
Is it necessary to post this, i mean really?
Why not?
There're people out there saying they got Michael's message and to spread love yet what they do is bash his family. What if they are helping Michael to pull off the hoax? Then they shouldn't get any nasty comments, and what's more, not about the children
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I guess Michael would be very "proud" to see fans bashing each other and his family like this.
No matter what the family did or did not, Michael loved them anyway! That's sad
Jacksons r the WORST VULTURE MJ had/HAS! For whatever the fuck reason, their grief only come into place when it is time to seek justice
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it's b/c of FAKE MJ fans like you who kiss Jacksons ass that they think they are SHIT! Stop encouraging this IDIOT! Tell him to fight for MJ
2 minutes ago via web
u all r NOT FUCKmeine's attorney, I am NOT speaking behind him, I tweet directly at him & at his page so let me speak for himself, allright!
3 minutes ago via web
WARNING! Do NOT tweet me shit when I am angry and right now I am very angry and you all are aggravating me! BACK THE FUCK OFF!
4 minutes ago via web
I ASK ALL JERMAINE-AKA BUBBLESS TWIN- TO UNFOLLOW ME BEFORE YOU AGGRAVATE ME FURTHER! FUCK OFF!
8 minutes ago via web
@Fabtasticbaby MAN SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE I GET ON YOU....bitch DID I THROW A BONE TO YOU?
8 minutes ago via web in reply to Fabtasticbaby
@jermjackson5 FUCK YOU!
10 minutes ago via web in reply to jermjackson5
Who asked people from Jermaine's page to follow me anyway, FUCK OFF! Don't you have some ass kissing of a has been to do!
11 minutes ago via web
@ChamoneMJ gO FUCK YOURSELF! I WISH YOU CALL THAT INP ERSON SO I CAN PUT YOU WHERE YOU CAME FROM!
12 minutes ago via web in reply to ChamoneMJ
FUCK JERMAINE AND HIS ASS KISSERS!
12 minutes ago via web
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We should be encouraging as many people who are connected to Michael to be on twitter and facebook.. we should want them to talk as much as possible to us as they are the ones who could slip up and give us clues.
It aggrevates me that people such as Jermaine get all this hate.. if someone doesnt like him then they should just ignore him.
Know what i mean?? We should nurture all these contacts, even if we dont like or agree with them.. let them speak and post as many pictures as possible i say!
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Jermaine is a joke :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I want to make things clear.. I am NOT supporting Jermaine and what he is doing or trying to do, but what I think is people shouldn't disrespect each other..I'm sure Michael wouldn't want anyone to insult his family and nephews, because no matter what they did, he loved them..yes, he was that good. What's nasty is that fans are fighting and bashing each other because of it..Why can't people wait? What if they are in the hoax? They should be to blame if it turns out this is not a hoax or that they were not in (so, in consequence, they didn't know he was still alive)..
I coulnd't care less about Jermaine and the rest of Jacksons, they didn't change my life..it was Michael, but what's unacceptable is that kind of behavior. It's childish and it takes nowhere..
Love for you all,
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Look at the white shirt with red band and red shoulder stripes
Remind you of anything???
[youtube:302en335]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t55J6Op_5oE[/youtube:302en335]
You bring up an excellent point. I wonder if these outfits represent different periods in Michael's life. It looks like Jermaine has a smile on his face and it makes me think he's not really serious. I don't get the feeling that he's trying to take Michael's place - and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong. I get the feeling that we're missing the point to the message. L.O.V.E.
Okay - as promised, I am here to say that I believe I was wrong about what I said above. I watched this promo for Jermaine's tour. I'm totally disappointed as I had faith in Jermaine. In the promo is clearly shows Jermaine wearing outfits that resemble Michael and he sings Michael's songs as though they are his own instead of his brothers. Ughh..I don't know what to think now..
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=12454 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=12454)
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I didn't know Jermaine made a song called "Word for the Badd" defaming his brother, until tonight.. What a shame.. I'm deeply disappointed..Words can't describe how I feel right now..
I followed Michael very closely but I didn't know about it, I must have been living under a rock.. I adressed Jermaine my disappointment on twitter.
Be strong Michael..we are here for you LOVE
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why is he doing this? He had a neat look all on his own... Doesn't someone tell him what he is doing is not good. This is not honoring your brother, this is looking like a jealous brother. Honoring your brother is singing ONE song of his...he sang like a million!
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This is going WAY off the wall but look really really close into Jermaine's eyes in the first photo in this thread. I've often said Jermaine reminds me of Murray and there was a tweet *I cant remember who's but one of the Brothers it was* but the tweet said something to the effect of Good people come in many forms or packages.....something to that effect.....ok run with me here.......Michael is posing as his own Brother or Brothers on occasion, not every time we see them but some of the time, just like with Murray and Dave Dave. Nothing can make me believe otherwise on this. It's a strong feeling and it just will not go away.
i'll go you one crazier . sometimes i have wondered if he wasn't masquerading as his ;) own mother. usually about then someone comes along with these pills and a funny jacket :o
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I totally agree, one day in court Michael's Mom looked really un-characteristic of herself, a lot more like some get up Michael would parade around in trying to look like his Mother, it was back during the bit with the taxi sitting on the desk all except for the fact that was one of the days when Murray was also looking very Michael-esque so both of them cannot be Mike at the same time.....But I KNOW in my deepest perceptions of this entire thing...Michael has been Murray!
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I for one,do not like Jermaine, I do not trust him, and you would be blind not to see the jealousy in his face and actions towards Michael. I have never, since Michaels "daeth" saw Jermaine doing anything to support Michael, daed or alive. I have only seen him promote himself using Michaels name and now his image. Like I said before, Jermaine cant take a crap without Michael.
I think all the anger with MICHAELS fans is based on the families behavior since his "death". They have barely shown any emotion. And what they did show was over in a day or two. Ms. Katherine is doing deals with people that Michael despised (making a home movie deal (knowing how private her son is/was, Joe is sueing every Tom, Dick and Harry. Tito is too busy with Titotime, Rebbie is talking about her upcoming concert (making it clear that it is NOT a tribute to Michael), Marlon has stated that he is too busy to worry about the investigation into the MURDER of his brother, Janet can mourn,laugh and cry all at the same time, LaToya is bugging poor Bubbles, Jermaine is trying to transform into Michael (thinking Michaels fanbase is going to fall all over him), Randy is busy trying to keep track of everyone, and Jackie has fallen off the face of the earth. None of them seem to raelly care about anything but promoting themselves and money. Whenever they are asked about the investigation, they smile. So, even if they do know more, and it was a conspiracy to KILL their son and brother, and they know who is responsible, is it reall something to smile about and just ignore? So, I know I'll probably get alot of backlash for this, but I can actually understand the anger alot of Michaels fans are feeling right now. I have said it before, that IF he is really gone, he has the most disrespectful and heartless family and friends I have ever seen. :(
Go easy on me please. :?
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hope:
I agree with you IF the Jacksons were really that cruel and IF Michael is really dead but the love in my heart and the good in me wants to believe that Michael is still here and that is why they are all acting so odd. But if by chance Michael is really dead and they know this and they are still acting this way then may they all burn in hell because I have no use for a damn one of them.
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hope:
I agree with you IF the Jacksons were really that cruel and IF Michael is really dead but the love in my heart and the good in me wants to believe that Michael is still here and that is why they are all acting so odd. But if by chance Michael is really dead and they know this and they are still acting this way then may they all burn in hell because I have no use for a damn one of them.
Thank you Nefari,i think the same 10000000%
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Oh brother( no pun intended) I usualy get bashed for complaining about Jerkmaine but as one poster said he is getting on my last nerve,
Mj's armbands are very sacred to him as he swore he would wear them until there were no moe hungry children left in the world and that is something that should only be allowed to be wron by MJ.
He better come back soon or if not he better reign this brother in before he loses all respect ( well he has from me anyway) but this is going too far.
He is singing his songs and doing nothing but trying to profit from his brother and I am getting very very tired of it. This brother needs to stop.
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I didn't know Jermaine made a song called "Word for the Badd" defaming his brother, until tonight.. What a shame.. I'm deeply disappointed..Words can't describe how I feel right now..
I followed Michael very closely but I didn't know about it, I must have been living under a rock.. I adressed Jermaine my disappointment on twitter.
Be strong Michael..we are here for you LOVE
I didn't know that !!! i'm shocked :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: i'm so sad..i can't describe my feeling,i'm speechless but in a bad way
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This is Michael's brother you're talking about. What do you guys think Michael would think if he sees that ? This is his family we have to respect that no matter what happened in the past.
I'm very shocked to see the hateful comments of so-called fans on Twitter. I knew that the fact that Jermaine is muslim is not appreciated but I didn't know people could be that mean. People are full of prejudices and claim to understand Michael's message. God only knows what they hide in their hearts.
These are just jackets guys everybody has imitated Michael's style why not his brother ? If it was even the case...
By the way, this is a hoax. Remember ? Poor Jermaine he was maybe only giving clues. Please Michael do something...
Peace out.
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uhh, do some research on all the brothers... you will find they all dressed like that in show gear 8-)
They did but this almost exactly the same
Not like these they dont. and the armband is all Michaels look.
Teerockjelli.. if you have prove, please post... but these are MJs looks and not J5 or Jermaines.
Jermaine wore the armband while performing with Mike 9 years ago...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzoU5Ud ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzoU5UdR7c&feature=related)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzoU5Ud ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzoU5UdR7c&feature=related)
That video always makes me cry rivers :lol:
Nothing like the J-5 with Michael so great.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzoU5Ud ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzoU5UdR7c&feature=related)
That video always makes me cry rivers :lol:
Nothing like the J-5 with Michael so great.
Yes ! it's a beautiful video..at the beginning we can see how their mother is proud of them,in her smile!
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on their jackson 5 site, there is a pic of him wearing all-black ray bans and the signature under the pic said: 'jermaine and his signature eyewear'...since when are black aviator ray bans jermaine's signature eyewear??? hellooo???
All the brothers wore aviator shades during the 80's, there are lots of pictures of them promoting their Victory tour, all sporting aviators. 8-) There are also pics of them wearing aviators in later years, too. We can't say for sure that Michael wore them first, as all the brothers first started wearing them around the same time. I think aviators are a Jackson look, not just Michael's.
I don't usually speak up on this site but it is just plain not right to bash the family in such a way as is often done. We don't know them, what their intentions are, or anything about them other than what they choose to reveal to us.
Jermaine throws a few armbands on his outfits and suddenly he's a monster, without understanding or knowing his intentions for doing so.
Sure he wrote that bashing song about Michael... but who here hasn't had a family feud at one point? We don't know what the circumstances were at the time. Anger makes us do all sorts of things... like bashing someone else's family on a public forum, perhaps? 8-)
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@jackson5abc
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
30 minutes ago via web in reply to jackson5abc
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A) Anyone know who "jackson5abc" is?
B) Other than expressing grief as he may need to and is certainly entitled to do, what other meaning, if any, could this Tweet have?
C) Is Jermaine "on script" here? Thoughts?
Peace & L.O.V.E. to All!
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He didn't say that Michael is gone / passed away / dead.... He just said that he misses him ;)
http://www.jackson5abc.com/ (http://www.jackson5abc.com/) this is the website you find on that twitter account.
I think it's nothing weird btw
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He didn't say that Michael is gone / passed away / dead.... He just said that he misses him ;)
http://www.jackson5abc.com/ (http://www.jackson5abc.com/) this is the website you find on that twitter account.
I think it's nothing weird btw
I agree, superflysister81....nothing weird, but I always tend to look at everything Jermaine puts out for clues of any kind...always on the hunt for a gem!
Peace to you!
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He didn't say that Michael is gone / passed away / dead.... He just said that he misses him ;)
http://www.jackson5abc.com/ (http://www.jackson5abc.com/) this is the website you find on that twitter account.
I think it's nothing weird btw
I agree, superflysister81....nothing weird, but I always tend to look at everything Jermaine puts out for clues of any kind...always on the hunt for a gem!
Peace to you!
I don't think any of the Jacksons will say he's dead or has passed away. They always say they miss him or he's gone. Yeah! gone into exile somewhere! Keep the Faith!
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@jackson5abc
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
30 minutes ago via web in reply to jackson5abc
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A) Anyone know who "jackson5abc" is?
B) Other than expressing grief as he may need to and is certainly entitled to do, what other meaning, if any, could this Tweet have?
C) Is Jermaine "on script" here? Thoughts?
Peace & L.O.V.E. to All!
The only strange thing I noticed about this tweet is the capital letters. "Love" "Little" and "Miss" are all capitalized. This could just be because he felt those words were important because he truly loves and misses his little brother, or it could be some kind of message as the TMZ articles often have. LLM...hmmm.. I can't think of an alternate meaning. There might not be one as others have said, but we should always consider every possibiliy.
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@jackson5abc
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
30 minutes ago via web in reply to jackson5abc
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A) Anyone know who "jackson5abc" is?
B) Other than expressing grief as he may need to and is certainly entitled to do, what other meaning, if any, could this Tweet have?
C) Is Jermaine "on script" here? Thoughts?
Peace & L.O.V.E. to All!
The only strange thing I noticed about this tweet is the capital letters. "Love" "Little" and "Miss" are all capitalized. This could just be because he felt those words were important because he truly loves and misses his little brother, or it could be some kind of message as the TMZ articles often have. LLM...hmmm.. I can't think of an alternate meaning. There might not be one as others have said, but we should always consider every possibiliy.
Good point! L.L.M.
I Googled it and got this info below from a ink to the Duke Law School, as well as other Law Schools...in fact, that's pretty much all that this acronym (if it is one) brings up:
LLM Degree
The Master of Laws (LLM)
Degree Overview
The LLM program at Duke Law School is designed to introduce foreign law graduates to the legal system of the United States and to provide the opportunity to take advanced courses in specialized areas of the law. Most LLM students at Duke are professionals with two or more years of experience at well-known law firms. They are also judges, prosecutors, academics, members of government ministries, corporations, or financial institutions. The LLM program usually includes a small number of talented, very recent law graduates as well.
Just a thought....but perhaps this could be a subtle shout-out to the CM legal case in some way? You know, that legal case that has all who care ASTOUNDED at this point?
Peace and Love to all!
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@jackson5abc
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
30 minutes ago via web in reply to jackson5abc
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A) Anyone know who "jackson5abc" is?
B) Other than expressing grief as he may need to and is certainly entitled to do, what other meaning, if any, could this Tweet have?
C) Is Jermaine "on script" here? Thoughts?
Peace & L.O.V.E. to All!
The only strange thing I noticed about this tweet is the capital letters. "Love" "Little" and "Miss" are all capitalized. This could just be because he felt those words were important because he truly loves and misses his little brother, or it could be some kind of message as the TMZ articles often have. LLM...hmmm.. I can't think of an alternate meaning. There might not be one as others have said, but we should always consider every possibiliy.
Good point! L.L.M.
I Googled it and got this info below from a ink to the Duke Law School, as well as other Law Schools...in fact, that's pretty much all that this acronym (if it is one) brings up:
LLM Degree
The Master of Laws (LLM)
Degree Overview
The LLM program at Duke Law School is designed to introduce foreign law graduates to the legal system of the United States and to provide the opportunity to take advanced courses in specialized areas of the law. Most LLM students at Duke are professionals with two or more years of experience at well-known law firms. They are also judges, prosecutors, academics, members of government ministries, corporations, or financial institutions. The LLM program usually includes a small number of talented, very recent law graduates as well.
Just a thought....but perhaps this could be a subtle shout-out to the CM legal case in some way? You know, that legal case that has all who care ASTOUNDED at this point?
Peace and Love to all!
Very good idea. Good ol' Google! :) This also makes me think of someone's comment regarding Dave Dave. Cannot remember who but it was in response to the idea that MJ is living as Dave Dave (when the Sun twisted Mo and Souza's words). They said Dave was in law school. Hmm...
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Well bout Words to the badd, i read that and thought it s interesting. I heard bout tht song b4 but never paid attention to what he said, didnt know bout the lyrics(tho they are changed in the ultimate version, if i got that right...)
http://www.mjcafe.net/the%20legend%20sp ... faq/c8.htm (http://www.mjcafe.net/the%20legend%20speeches%20&%20faq/c8.htm)
What is the story behind "Word to the Badd!"?
In November 1991, a new single, "Word to the Badd!", by Jermaine Jackson was leaked to Los Angeles radio station KPWR. The DJ began to play the single continuously in alternation with MJ's new single "Black or White". The lyrics were a no-holds-barred attack on Michael. They read, in part:
Reconstructed
Been abducted
Don't know who you are...
Once you were made
You changed your shade
Was your color wrong?
Could not turn back
It's a known fact
You were too far gone
The broadside caused shock and controversy in the media and the public. Jermaine explained on the UK network TV program "Rapido": "I tried to put some phone calls to him and I didn't get a reply...it's a number of things but it's nothing we couldn't work out, had we spoken, but I wasn't granted an opportunity from his people to speak to him...the overall message is an older brother telling his younger brother to get back to reality...you have done it to the ultimate level, but you're still a person."
According to Margaret Maldonado, his former common-law wife, Jermaine wrote the song when he became enraged that his producers, L.A. Reid and Babyface, postponed work on his next album in order to work with Michael on Dangerous. Jermaine was unable to reach MJ by phone to confront him over the postponement, so he conceived a plan to put Michael in his place and at the same time draw attention to his own album.
The morning after the song began to air, MJ appeared at Hayvenhurst to demand an explanation. Contrary to some reports, he did not attempt to attack his brother physically over the insult but instead went into a room with him to discuss the matter, with mother Katherine mediating. Maldonado reports that after the meeting Katherine told her that Jermaine had refused to apologize, though Michael was deeply hurt. MJ begged his brother to withdraw the single, since his own fans would not care, but Jermaine's career would be ruined. Unwisely, Jermaine did not, and although the version of "Word to the Badd!" that appeared on his album did not contain the acid lyrics, the single and album were commercial failures due to public contempt over the cynical attack on Michael. Jermaine was dropped from his Arista contract soon after and remains unsigned to any label.
(from A Visual Documentary, Jackson Family Values)
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on their jackson 5 site, there is a pic of him wearing all-black ray bans and the signature under the pic said: 'jermaine and his signature eyewear'...since when are black aviator ray bans jermaine's signature eyewear??? hellooo???
All the brothers wore aviator shades during the 80's, there are lots of pictures of them promoting their Victory tour, all sporting aviators. 8-) There are also pics of them wearing aviators in later years, too. We can't say for sure that Michael wore them first, as all the brothers first started wearing them around the same time. I think aviators are a Jackson look, not just Michael's.
I don't usually speak up on this site but it is just plain not right to bash the family in such a way as is often done. We don't know them, what their intentions are, or anything about them other than what they choose to reveal to us.
Jermaine throws a few armbands on his outfits and suddenly he's a monster, without understanding or knowing his intentions for doing so.
Sure he wrote that bashing song about Michael... but who here hasn't had a family feud at one point? We don't know what the circumstances were at the time. Anger makes us do all sorts of things... like bashing someone else's family on a public forum, perhaps? 8-)
Whether they all wore aviators back then or not is not the problem. The problem is Jermaine is copying MICHAELS outfits identically. The arm band is Michaels (not any part of the J5 era or any Jackson other than him). 3 outfits on that cardboard are identical. So it is very obvious jermaine is trying to steal Michaels look. All he is doing is making a mockery out of his image.
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This is his latest tweet:
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
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A lot of people r copying Michael. Tons of people. Fans, singers, entertainers. He's a big inspiration for everyone. Yes, Jermaine is obviously doin' the same thing. He can do that, and there's nothing wrong with that. He's his brother.
I don't think that he's tryin' to take Michael's place.
I don't think that he's that naive.
How could he take that place?
There is a lot of levels in the music industry.
-Bad entertainers without any talent
-Average ones
-Good ones
-So many talented ones and amazing ones
-And then..the extremely talented, unforgettable artists, and then after this.. there is nothing. This is the top.
And then somewhere HERE... there is Michael Jackson.
Alone.
He has his own level and i don't think anyone could reach that, i don't think that anyone 's gonna take this place ever.
So..Jermaine can do whatever he wants to do...he's nothing like Michael.
We know that.
Everyone knows that.
Even Jermaine knows that, i guess.
Don't bash him just because he's tryin' to be something similar to someone who he loves even MORE than we do. Just don't.
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Watching the Jackson dynasty programme I notice the brothers treat jermaine like he is a joke I do feel a little sorry for him
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There is a lot of levels in the music industry.
-Bad entertainers without any talent
-Average ones
-Good ones
-So many talented ones and amazing ones
-And then..the extremely talented, unforgettable artists, and then after this.. there is nothing. This is the top.
And then somewhere HERE... there is Michael Jackson.
Alone.
He has his own level and i don't think anyone could reach that, i don't think that anyone 's gonna take this place ever.
:lol: :lol: I love the way you put this!!! Totally true! :D
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There is a lot of levels in the music industry.
-Bad entertainers without any talent
-Average ones
-Good ones
-So many talented ones and amazing ones
-And then..the extremely talented, unforgettable artists, and then after this.. there is nothing. This is the top.
And then somewhere HERE... there is Michael Jackson.
Alone.
He has his own level and i don't think anyone could reach that, i don't think that anyone 's gonna take this place ever.
:lol: :lol: I love the way you put this!!! Totally true! :D
Actually i guess the empty space in my post is waaay too small. 8-)
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I love Jermaine, but he is really annoying sometimes. :evil:
First, the ORIGINAL lyrics of "Word To The Bad" where he sent a HUGE diss to MJ:
What up yo,
word to the badd
Reconstructed
Been abducted
Don’t know who you are
They may love you
they don’t know you
Lonely superstar
never think about who you love
only think about number one
You forget about where you started from
You only think about what you want
don’t care about how it’s done
you only think about you, your throne
Be it right or be it wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
What up yo, word to the badd
Once you were made
You changed your shade
Was your color wrong?
Could not turn back
It’s a known fact
You were too far gone
You know I tried to be there for you
Like a brother I care for you
It didn’t matter you always play me off
You only care about what you want
You don’t care about how it’s done
You only think about you, your throne
Be it right or wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no no, I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no
What up yo, word to the badd
Thinkin’ about that pie that you’ve been takin’ from me
From a brother to another brother hard to believe
Lost and don’t know it yet you still show it
Givin’ seems to be harder than it is to receive
The glass has gotten shady, time to make it clearer,
Clean it up and lets start with the Man in the mirror.
Theres sadness there brother, aint no mistaken it,
Get a grip cause youre not far from breakin it.
Thinkin about the time when we used to be close,
It shouldnt be past tense, cause nobody knows,
What the future may hold, what tomorrow might bring,
Its not guaranteed that youll be spreading your wings
But meanwhile, I continue to smile, cause in the back of my head,
I know you’re still a child
You say that your a man, but that will never be.
This song REALLY make's me want to slap Jermaine in the face.
Second, the time he said that HE could have been Michael. Um, yeah... NO...
Now this??
Jermaine it's not the "Jackson" style.. it's the MICHAEL Jackson style. Stop trying to copy him!
I say this with LOVE! L.O.V.E.... :lol:
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I love Jermaine, but he is really annoying sometimes. :evil:
First, the ORIGINAL lyrics of "Word To The Bad" where he sent a HUGE diss to MJ:
What up yo,
word to the badd
Reconstructed
Been abducted
Don’t know who you are
They may love you
they don’t know you
Lonely superstar
never think about who you love
only think about number one
You forget about where you started from
You only think about what you want
don’t care about how it’s done
you only think about you, your throne
Be it right or be it wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
What up yo, word to the badd
Once you were made
You changed your shade
Was your color wrong?
Could not turn back
It’s a known fact
You were too far gone
You know I tried to be there for you
Like a brother I care for you
It didn’t matter you always play me off
You only care about what you want
You don’t care about how it’s done
You only think about you, your throne
Be it right or wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no no, I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no
What up yo, word to the badd
Thinkin’ about that pie that you’ve been takin’ from me
From a brother to another brother hard to believe
Lost and don’t know it yet you still show it
Givin’ seems to be harder than it is to receive
The glass has gotten shady, time to make it clearer,
Clean it up and lets start with the Man in the mirror.
Theres sadness there brother, aint no mistaken it,
Get a grip cause youre not far from breakin it.
Thinkin about the time when we used to be close,
It shouldnt be past tense, cause nobody knows,
What the future may hold, what tomorrow might bring,
Its not guaranteed that youll be spreading your wings
But meanwhile, I continue to smile, cause in the back of my head,
I know you’re still a child
You say that your a man, but that will never be.
This song REALLY make's me want to slap Jermaine in the face.
Second, the time he said that HE could have been Michael. Um, yeah... NO...
Now this??
Jermaine it's not the "Jackson" style.. it's the MICHAEL Jackson style. Stop trying to copy him!
I say this with LOVE! L.O.V.E.... :lol:
Man I was looking at the lyrics to Word to the Badd. Those are some cold blooded lyrics. That's hard core diss on MJ from his own flesh and blood. Jermaine is blasting MJ in this song. I know MJ had to be deeply hurt at the time by this song then on top of that his own sister Latoya dissed him in public too. MJ definitely was a forgiving person to let this go. I think Jermaine was real bitter at the time because he didn't reach the level of success that MJ had. I mean maybe Mike did act different as he got more fame who knows but I think you should never put your family business out for everyone to see. We know Jermaine eventually change the song but I wonder how close him and Mike were after this song came out. Maybe that's why Jermaine and Latoya are always the ones speaking up for MJ now. They always have his back now. I think they are making up for demeaning MJ back in the day. Notice they seem to be the most outspoken of the siblings when it comes to Mike. I saw one of Tito's tweets to someone and he was telling them that he doesn't like to talk about his brother but he really misses him. Jackie, Marlon, and Rebbie are also very quiet about MJ. Janet she's kinda in between.
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This is his latest tweet:
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
i wonder why he capitalized the two L's, I and M. LLIM?
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LaToya is bugging poor Bubbles, ...
Hope - sorry, because I know you were really serious but this comment was funny :) Seriously though - I know how you feel. We just have to have faith that Jermaine is playing his role. I have to keep reminding myself of that too.
And they are still family. I don't always agree with my siblings but not one of you should ever bash them or you'll have to answer to me! I think the Jackson's aren't any different than my family, if you know what I mean.
I just read the twitter comments above. Wow - what venom coming from those that claim to love and understand Michael. I'm sure Michael is deeply disappointed in their behavior. I'm glad that I stay mostly away from Twitter. I guess I need to go pray for them. The hoax is clearly taking it's toll on people's sanity. Blessings.
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This is his latest tweet:
Love my Little brother and I Miss him deeply, not one day goes by without me thinking about him.
i wonder why he capitalized the two L's, I and M. LLIM?
Good eye Mjfansince4 - this could have a definite meaning, or maybe not, but it's strange to capitalize words that are clearly not meant to be capitalized. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Man I was looking at the lyrics to Word to the Badd. Those are some cold blooded lyrics. That's hard core diss on MJ from his own flesh and blood. Jermaine is blasting MJ in this song. I know MJ had to be deeply hurt at the time by this song then on top of that his own sister Latoya dissed him in public too. MJ definitely was a forgiving person to let this go. I think Jermaine was real bitter at the time because he didn't reach the level of success that MJ had. I mean maybe Mike did act different as he got more fame who knows but I think you should never put your family business out for everyone to see. We know Jermaine eventually change the song but I wonder how close him and Mike were after this song came out. Maybe that's why Jermaine and Latoya are always the ones speaking up for MJ now. They always have his back now. I think they are making up for demeaning MJ back in the day. Notice they seem to be the most outspoken of the siblings when it comes to Mike. I saw one of Tito's tweets to someone and he was telling them that he doesn't like to talk about his brother but he really misses him. Jackie, Marlon, and Rebbie are also very quiet about MJ. Janet she's kinda in between.
I agree, msteetee34.
I read an article that said MJ went to Jermaine about it, and they talked but it was said that Jermaine refused to apologize. I agree with what you said about LaToya & Jermaine, i think they are trying to make up for how much they hurt him.
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This is the first time I've read those lyrics and they made me really sad :( . I know it's easy to bash Jermaine because he does act strange sometimes but what makes me sad is that this might have been his truth. We all love Michael and will always defend him but none of us knew him on a personal level. He most definitely did distance himself from his family and I don't blame him for it since he probably felt pressured all the time but Jermaine must've seen it differently you know. Still doesn't make it right to insult your own brother publically but some people will always be bitter.
What makes me really sad though is the fact that they were all close once... I have a sister that I love dearly and I just couldn't imagine ever drifting apart from her...
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I love Jermaine, but he is really annoying sometimes. :evil:
First, the ORIGINAL lyrics of "Word To The Bad" where he sent a HUGE diss to MJ:
What up yo,
word to the badd
Reconstructed
Been abducted
Don’t know who you are
They may love you
they don’t know you
Lonely superstar
never think about who you love
only think about number one
You forget about where you started from
You only think about what you want
don’t care about how it’s done
you only think about you, your throne
Be it right or be it wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
What up yo, word to the badd
Once you were made
You changed your shade
Was your color wrong?
Could not turn back
It’s a known fact
You were too far gone
You know I tried to be there for you
Like a brother I care for you
It didn’t matter you always play me off
You only care about what you want
You don’t care about how it’s done
You only think about you, your throne
Be it right or wrong
It ain’t about your world
It ain’t about the things that you do
If you don’t care, I don’t care
Cause you keep thinkin’ ’bout you
It ain’t about you takin’ my pie
You been takin’ for a long time
If you don’t care, I don’t care
If you keep
Well I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no no, I ain’t thinkin’ ’bout you
Oh no
What up yo, word to the badd
Thinkin’ about that pie that you’ve been takin’ from me
From a brother to another brother hard to believe
Lost and don’t know it yet you still show it
Givin’ seems to be harder than it is to receive
The glass has gotten shady, time to make it clearer,
Clean it up and lets start with the Man in the mirror.
Theres sadness there brother, aint no mistaken it,
Get a grip cause youre not far from breakin it.
Thinkin about the time when we used to be close,
It shouldnt be past tense, cause nobody knows,
What the future may hold, what tomorrow might bring,
Its not guaranteed that youll be spreading your wings
But meanwhile, I continue to smile, cause in the back of my head,
I know you’re still a child
You say that your a man, but that will never be.
This song REALLY make's me want to slap Jermaine in the face.
Second, the time he said that HE could have been Michael. Um, yeah... NO...
Now this??
Jermaine it's not the "Jackson" style.. it's the MICHAEL Jackson style. Stop trying to copy him!
I say this with LOVE! L.O.V.E.... :lol:
[youtube:1tsbhy6b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tTzeohx95U[/youtube:1tsbhy6b]
Reading the words made me feel angry but hearing them come from his mouth was 10x worse!!! How oculd he say it about his OWN little brother??? Whatever Michael did to deserve it idk but it prolly wasn't enough to have him put on the spot like that :evil: !!! I love Jermaine but wow i knew it was sumthin that i didn't like and it's his attitude sumtimes :? Well if he had that much animosity built up how come he didn't come to Michael and tell him personally??? My sisters and I have our wrongs EVERY SINGLE DAY. We have it out like idk what but dang Jermaine just went ham.....actually 600 bars on Michael!!!! I wonder how Michael felt :( Hmmm mayb he told him it wasn't abt him...ha :roll:
BTW thnx for sharing :D
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Wow. I've never heard abt this song before.
Dunno what to do, laugh or cry... 8-)
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to go grow up with a brother like michael must be very hard you always know you will in his shadow no matter what
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to go grow up with a brother like michael must be very hard you always know you will in his shadow no matter what
Yes i was thinking abt the same thing..I guess it was a hell of job for Jermaine to watching his lil brother becoming the king of MUSIC. For sure he was very proud of Michael, but at the same time i think he had a bad taste in his mouth as well. This song is nothing but pure jealousy.
Anyway, i'm not blaming him. That must be very hard.
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to go grow up with a brother like michael must be very hard you always know you will in his shadow no matter what
Yes i was thinking abt the same thing..I guess it was a hell of job for Jermaine to watching his lil brother becoming the king of MUSIC. For sure he was very proud of Michael, but at the same time i think he had a bad taste in his mouth as well. This song is nothing but pure jealousy.
Anyway, i'm not blaming him. That must be very hard.
Jermaine seems quite career minded and it was a goal that he could never achieve being greater than michael and as I said from the dynasty programme it looks like he is the one they ridicule it must be hard for him but the song was jealousy on his part I do feel sorry for him
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This is Michael's brother you're talking about. What do you guys think Michael would think if he sees that ? This is his family we have to respect that no matter what happened in the past.
I'm very shocked to see the hateful comments of so-called fans on Twitter. I knew that the fact that Jermaine is muslim is not appreciated but I didn't know people could be that mean. People are full of prejudices and claim to understand Michael's message. God only knows what they hide in their hearts.
These are just jackets guys everybody has imitated Michael's style why not his brother ? If it was even the case...
By the way, this is a hoax. Remember ? Poor Jermaine he was maybe only giving clues. Please Michael do something...
Peace out.
Sarahli, you said exactly what I was thinking...Thank you! People fail to remember that Michael could be behind all the actions of his family and they are just doing what Michael wants them to do. They are his family and I know he loves them very much and I believe they love him too! How would anyone one of you like it if it was your family that these things were said about? I know it would hurt me terribly. Even though my sisters and I have our disagreements, we still love each other and would defend each other to no end if someone was hurting one of us. If people think this is a hoax, and that Michael is alive...then why is it so far fetched for you to consider that Michael might be very much a part of everything that people do on his behalf. I think Michael is not given enough credit as to the genius he really is and his part in this hoax. He would not go through all of this to sit back and not have a say in everything that is said or done. Thanks for listening!
God Bless you and love to all!
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A lot of people r copying Michael. Tons of people. Fans, singers, entertainers. He's a big inspiration for everyone. Yes, Jermaine is obviously doin' the same thing. He can do that, and there's nothing wrong with that. He's his brother.
I don't think that he's tryin' to take Michael's place.
I don't think that he's that naive.
How could he take that place?
There is a lot of levels in the music industry.
-Bad entertainers without any talent
-Average ones
-Good ones
-So many talented ones and amazing ones
-And then..the extremely talented, unforgettable artists, and then after this.. there is nothing. This is the top.
And then somewhere HERE... there is Michael Jackson.
Alone.
He has his own level and i don't think anyone could reach that, i don't think that anyone 's gonna take this place ever.
So..Jermaine can do whatever he wants to do...he's nothing like Michael.
We know that.
Everyone knows that.
Even Jermaine knows that, i guess.
Don't bash him just because he's tryin' to be something similar to someone who he loves even MORE than we do. Just don't.
Very well said thank you GoOoF!! You took the words right out of my mouth!! :)
God Bless & LOVE to you all!
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to tell the truth, our big brothers (if male) and big sisters (if female) know us better than our parents (if you grew up together) when you really think about it, and sometimes when they have a problem with each other, they are determined to let their sibling know it... now if MJ wasn't taking his calls (during the time word to the bad :lol: :lol: **that ish*** should be listed in the top dis records! like LL and Kool Moe Dee or JZ and Nas type battle*** LOL) he was probably on some sh** like "Oh this ni@@a gonna hear what I have to say..."
I think he did what all big brothers do... get on your case :geek:
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back to the costumes. as soon as everyone say these they thought michael. can i ask if that is the same thing you thought when you saw the new costumes? the shoes to me especially feel like someone just went tttttttttttttttooooooooooooooo far.like taking away the things that were michael and replaceing them with their wants and not his. i could be wwwaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy off but that is how it feels.
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At sound check for Children Uniting Nations event! SMILE!
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there are more photos and tweets from Jermaine and his wife
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
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OMG I wish Jermaine would just stop.
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
Lol.
Guys, i'm just wondering, Michael is probably aware of what Jermaine's doin', so it could be easily a part of the plan, no?
If it's not ( what i don't think), then Jermaine makes me speechless. 8-)
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I've been trying to tell people to look closer at Jermaine. I think he has Vitiligo as well. I've seen splotchy areas in some of the videos here and there, up near his neck. If he does not have Vitiligo than another of my hunches may be possible....he does look smaller and thinner these days, talks a lot softer too. Keep an eye on his every move. Jerm man may be a huge player in this yet.
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
JALI
A jali (or jaali, Gujarati) is the term for a perforated stone or latticed screen, usually with an ornamental pattern constructed through the use of calligraphy and geometry. Early work was performed by carving into stone, while the later more elegant used by the Mughals employed the technique of inlay, using marble and semi-precious stones.
This architectural decoration was used in Islamic architecture as well as in Indian architecture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jali (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jali)
This type of architecture permits to see without being seen.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/TajJoli1.jpg)
The umbrella is not black like Michael's (or I need "sun"glasses ?). Is it a message ?
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Ah jeez...
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
:shock:
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Interesting thoughts on the umbrella. I do think Jermaine is holding up a very important piece of the puzzle......he we go:
84 = umbrella = Captain EO, Lightman, Rosebud
It's rosebud that interests me most. In the classic movie, "Citizen Kane", the word, "rosebud" is the last word uttered by the main character Charles Foster Kane. His character was based on the media giant William Randolph Hearst. Hearst used, "yellow journalism"...basically, tabloid garbage. I am going to posts a couple of wiki links about Citizen Kane and yellow journalism. The use of an umbrella is very significant, I believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)
So many coincidences, so little time :)
Many blessings to you all!
Have a great weekend!
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Oh dear, my head hurts! Jermaine, sweetheart, as others have said, you're either doing one heck of a good job - or you're not!
'....and they have not a clue when it's all gonna end' :?
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Interesting thoughts on the umbrella. I do think Jermaine is holding up a very important piece of the puzzle......he we go:
84 = umbrella = Captain EO, Lightman, Rosebud
It's rosebud that interests me most. In the classic movie, "Citizen Kane", the word, "rosebud" is the last word uttered by the main character Charles Foster Kane. His character was based on the media giant William Randolph Hearst. Hearst used, "yellow journalism"...basically, tabloid garbage. I am going to posts a couple of wiki links about Citizen Kane and yellow journalism. The use of an umbrella is very significant, I believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)
So many coincidences, so little time :)
Many blessings to you all!
Have a great weekend!
I think it's worth to put an excerpt here. Thanks for your findings.
"Yellow journalism or the yellow press is a type of journalism that presents little or no legitimate well-researched news and instead uses eye-catching headlines to sell more newspapers. Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism. By extension "Yellow Journalism" is used today as a pejorative to decry any journalism that treats news in an unprofessional or unethical fashion.
Campbell (2001) defines Yellow Press newspapers as having daily multi-column front-page headlines covering a variety of topics, such as sports and scandal, using bold layouts (with large illustrations and perhaps color), heavy reliance on unnamed sources, and unabashed self-promotion. The term was extensively used to describe certain major New York City newspapers about 1900 as they battled for circulation.
Frank Luther Mott (1941) defines yellow journalism in terms of five characteristics:
1. scare headlines in huge print, often of minor news
2. lavish use of pictures, or imaginary drawings
3. use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudo-science, and a parade of false learning from so-called experts
4. emphasis on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with comic strips (which is now normal in the U.S.)
5. dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against the system."
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Thank you for the posts........you're great! :)
I was just thinking.....where have we seen yellow? The ties at the memorial......where else?
Thanks again for the post!
Blessings!
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Thank you for the posts........you're great! :)
I was just thinking.....where have we seen yellow? The ties at the memorial......where else?
Thanks again for the post!
Blessings!
The Sunflowers ! ;)
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
:shock:
[YouTube]http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=ebh1hMCDl18&feature=related[/YouTube]
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Oh no...Jermaine - get a life or drop dead! These costumes are Michaels and no others! My god I can see already how you will look like a pig in thouse clothes :lol: Man, first you need to get a figure before wearing Michaels costumes :lol:
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
Otherwise his hair will melt down :mrgreen:
Oh no...Jermaine - get a life or drop dead! These costumes are Michaels and no others! My god I can see already how you will look like a pig in thouse clothes :lol: Man, first you need to get a figure before wearing Michaels costumes :lol:
That is not nice, he is only doing Michaels job.
( but that hair...)
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Wow Jermaine is using an umbrella now too?
Otherwise his hair will melt down :mrgreen:
Oh no...Jermaine - get a life or drop dead! These costumes are Michaels and no others! My god I can see already how you will look like a pig in thouse clothes :lol: Man, first you need to get a figure before wearing Michaels costumes :lol:
That is not nice, he is only doing Michaels job.
( but that hair...)
I know it's not nice but neither is Jermaine! And we can't be sure he's doing Michaels job, can we? It smells like he's just taking all he can from Michael to get more attention (money) and I hate it!
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I think Jermaine wants the best for his bro.
He is not gonna stop with it.
Im sure that Jermaine is aware that people are bashing him and even angry with him. Ive read some comments on his twitter.. thats says enough.
He knows he is not Michael. But he is his Bro
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to Glinda: Remember "nice" song he wrote about Michael years ago? Well, that's why I don't believe he's such a good bro as he wants the world to believe now. I will never forget that and actually shouldn't anyone who cares about Mike. Jermaine has always been a little clever, jelaous bro who wants to take benefit from Michaels work and clory. That's my opinion, been created from Jermaine himself. People don't change.
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obviously Jermaine feels the need to step into Michael shoes, but why?? there's no need. Jermaine could never compete with Micheal before and now he's out of the way its seems like Jermaine has seized the opportunity. It wouldn't be so bad if Jermaine came up with he's own style etc...certainly would look less desperate and shameless.The costumes are an exact copy of MJ's outfits he could have tried to put his own twist on it or, maybe Jermaine has ran out of ideas? !! :lol: well, they do say that imitation is the best form of flattery....i beg to differ in this case.
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Óh yes i remember that song.
That was certainly not a nice song, but i.m.o Jermaine felt desperate at that time.
Jermaine was there when Michael went trough the trials.
He even said that he would go to prison for Michael if he could do that.
People forget the good stuff. Jermaine was there.
@ New Tiux
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it's so easy to make promises and say big words if u know u never have to fulfill them ;) same story with Jermaine. He would go to prison for Mike? Let's face the truth here - He would NEVER do that in real :lol: Please...
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it's so easy to make promises and say big words if u know u never have to fulfill them ;) same story with Jermaine. He would go to prison for Mike? Let's face the truth here - He would NEVER do that in real :lol: Please... :lol:
He could not do that for real.
But what do you know about truth? And what do i know about truth?
"Don't judge a person, do not pass judgement, unless you have talked to them one on one"
I stole that one from Michael Jackson.
I can only agree on that.
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it's so easy to make promises and say big words if u know u never have to fulfill them ;) same story with Jermaine. He would go to prison for Mike? Let's face the truth here - He would NEVER do that in real :lol: Please...
He could not do that for real.
But what do you know about truth? And what do i know about truth?
"Don't judge a person, do not pass judgement, unless you have talked to them one on one"
I stole that one from Michael Jackson.
I can only agree on that.
That's why we all are here - for the truth. I highly doubt there's any person who have talked with Jermaine or Mike one on one... we all have our own opinions without talking to them. And what I said was my opinion and there's no need or use to try to change it or attack me with your opinion until I can see that J is actually helping Michael to come back. That means that Michael returns one day and THEN I will apologize Jermaine for all I said about him and for not believing him. But right now it seems like he's just taking all he can until the "iron is hot" and who can blame him? Easy job for him....
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I honestly do not know what to think. But in my personal opinion the Jackson Brothers have been long long over.Everyone on the face of this planet knows that MJ stood out and has ALWAYS stood out from his brothers. Honestly........before all of this the Jacksons were mostly afterthoughts except for Janet ...Janet and MJ honestly have had the most success in their careers. The Jackson brothers also had success but that success is in the past.
They are all getting older.....they should just sit back and enjoy their families and SUPPORT their brothers legacy. The key word here is SUPPORT their brothers legacy..Also they need to fight for justice until the end of this Hoax/Murder! They have had years of success time to let it go and just be themself become closer as a family should. We all know even MJ had been gone for a while out of the spotlight....Although we see now that even though he was out of the spotlight he was working on various projects. That is how MJ is remember? He leaves for a while and then BAM! New songs, new project, ect.... so..
If they are sooo concerned about MJ's death and are claiming Murder then we should see them on t.v. in some type of justice conference with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson! Rebbie saying it is NOT a MJ tribute! Honestly I was shocked the last song I heard from her was Centipede ! WHICH was wrote by MJ! So ummmmmmmm reviving careers at this poing to me is well......pointless! LEt it be Jacksons ! Just let it be! Thanks. :)
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Just sayin'.....Jermaine tweets 16 times on July 25.....
16: 1 + 6 = 7
July: 7th month
25: 2 + 5 = 7
777!!!!!!
@sallydavis222. It's not this year. about 4 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to sallydavis222
Reply Retweet @ShakeshaLTL thank you about 4 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to ShakeshaLTL
Reply Retweet @kmnm2209 I will as soon as I watch the video. about 4 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to kmnm2209
Reply Retweet @msirismg yes. He is amazing. about 4 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to msirismg
Reply Retweet @sallydavis222 no unfortunately not. about 4 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to sallydavis222
Reply Retweet @becomebetter yes, we have them all. about 5 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to becomebetter
Reply Retweet Over the years I have been fortunate to meet some incredible people, I enjoy it deeply. about 6 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Reply Retweet Lunch was great, I met some amazing Opera singers from Mexico, I was very impressed. Just Amazing. about 6 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Reply Retweet @lovefor3t thank you for all you Love and support through the years about 6 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to lovefor3t
Reply Retweet @Joel_kane thank you for thinking of us, I got him a computer.
about 6 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to Joel_kane
Reply Retweet @Soulsister13 thank you for asking, we're well, Halima is sending her regards as well about 6 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to Soulsister13
Reply Retweet @micaela_child thank you for your Love and support and the dedication to us. about 9 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to micaela_child
Reply Retweet Going for Lunch with good friends and also following up on our Charity work we started in DC about 10 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Reply Retweet @Elisalda2010 thank you for all your love and support. about 10 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to Elisalda2010
Reply Retweet @DivineMJ thank you for all you Love and support. about 11 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to DivineMJ
Reply Retweet @otad12 thank you for thinking of us. about 11 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to otad12
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Now, admittedly, this may be a stretch....but one of the strangest of Jermaine's tweets is:
Lunch was great, I met some amazing Opera singers from Mexico, I was very impressed. Just Amazing.
So I googled "Mexican Opera Singers" and this was the first choice that came up...it is an article about a Mexican Opera Singer named Rolando Villazón....it is kinda lengthy, but for some reason, the more I read about him the more he reminded me of Michael....coincidence? I wonder why Jermaine was meeting with some Mexican Opera Singers anyway? Doesn't that strike you as an odd combo?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/ma ... ra.culture (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/may/25/classicalmusicandopera.culture)
'The stage is a macabre playground where you set your fantasies free'
He is the next big thing in male opera singers, but life could have been very different. He abandoned his first calling, to be a priest, after God failed to meet him on top of a volcano. And he still consults a therapist every week following a near-burnout last year. Clown one moment, cultural sage the next, the Mexican tenor is a force of nature to be reckoned with, says Peter Conrad
Peter Conrad The Observer, Sunday 25 May 2008 Article history
Tenor Rolando Villazon photographed at the Royal Opera House in London. Photograph: Richard Saker
Backstage at the Royal Opera House to meet a tenor, I encountered a monster instead. My date was with Rolando Villazón, the young Mexican whose vocal ardour and dramatic intensity have singled him out as the successor to the venerable Placido Domingo; at the appointed time, a dinosaur turned up. No, not some lumbering relic of an extinct species like Pavarotti, but an actual saurian, admittedly made of plastic. Through the door poked the head of a triceratops, its jaws grinning as it chomped on a furry teddy bear. While it ate, the head emitted a jungly, rumbling growl.
When the mask came off, I recognised Villazón, a madcap jester who has eyes like burning coals, eyebrows like scorched earth and hair that looks as if it might have been twisted into curls by red-hot tongs. He had spent the day rehearsing the Hamlet-like title role in Verdi's Don Carlos, the most eagerly awaited new production of the Royal Opera's season, sold out months in advance; that, he said, explained his impersonation of a prehistoric beast. 'Ah yes, it is the director's concept. Nicholas Hytner is setting the opera in Jurassic Park, not 16th-century Spain. Interesting, no?' Then a wild burst of laughter jolted him. 'OK, I am joking, I tell you why I wear this. It is because the fans stop me everywhere in the street wanting autographs and this frightens them away!' Another fit of giggles followed, after which, on his third try, Villazón, who siphons off surplus energy by clowning and spends his spare time scribbling caricatures, let slip the dull, domestic truth. He had picked up the mask at a novelty shop in Covent Garden and was taking it home as a bedtime present for one of his young sons.
Before the dinosaur unmasked, I noticed that it was carrying a thick paperback. Most tenors have resonance cavities where their brains should be, but Villazón is a great reader and was immersed in The Goose Man, an untranslated novel by German expressionist Jakob Wassermann, which describes the travails of a misunderstood composer. The two accessories sum up his complexity: a child's mask on his head, an adult's weighty, frowningly obscure book in his hand. Villazón claims that novels help him to flesh out the inner lives of the sometimes vacuous operatic characters he has to embody. 'In books I discover the real human beings,' he said in 2006. 'In life, you often meet only the masks.'
I met the mask first. But the face underneath the dinosaur's head is another kind of mask, elasticised when Villazón laughs or torn apart by anguish as he surrenders to the rage of Alfredo in La traviata and the sobbing misery of Rodolfo in La bohème. When he sings, his head sometimes seems to disappear altogether, engulfed by a mouth that opens preternaturally wide to let out what he calls 'the cry of the unconscious - a continuous primal scream'. I had seen the layered disguises. Would I discover the real human being?
The task, I found, was like trying to catch a whirlwind. Unstoppably loquacious in several languages and physically restless to the point of frenzy, Villazón is a self-transformer. His slim body and his thin skin are the cage for a menagerie of creatures as feral as that triceratops: a predatory libertine like the Duke in Verdi's Rigoletto, a crazed stalker like Don José in Bizet's Carmen, a morbid narcissist like the poet Lensky in Tchaikovsky's Eugene Onegin. The man who lets these alter egos inhabit him, and who voices their neuroses with such eloquence, must sometimes wonder who he actually is.
Last summer, overcome by just that anxiety, Villazón cancelled his engagements for five months and retired to an island off the coast of Spain to brood about the forced pace of his career and the emotional self-expenditure it entailed. 'It was,' he told me, 'a physical and vocal collapse. Just before it happened, it was not me performing, it was my reflection. Somehow I wasn't there. My voice is a horse and it wanted to be ridden by a man, not a reflection.'
He then treated that voice to a little exercise in mythological metamorphosis, extra evidence of his flair for changing himself. 'When it goes well, the man and the voice are one, like Centaur. And when it goes really well, the horse becomes Pegasus - he flies!' His arms raked the air in anticipation of take-off; Villazón always seems on the point of going through the roof.
He is, conveniently enough, married to a psychologist and also has a trusted shrink in Mexico, whom he consults every week by telephone. He has often toyed with the idea of rounding up the operatic characters that are his multiple, optional selves and banging their heads together in a session of group therapy. The medical analogy breaks down, however, because opera is a sickness from which Villazón doesn't want to be cured. 'That's right, the theatre is not a doctor's office,' he said. 'The stage is a playground - a macabre playground, because it's where you set fantasies free, where the demons dance around like ghosts on the Day of the Dead in Mexico.' Villazón applies his knowledge of psychoanalysis to the roles he performs; but having uncovered the reasons for their perverse conduct, he does not restore them to sane, unoperatic normality. Instead he allows himself to be infected by a mania that the analyst would want to dispel.
Don Carlos, for instance, is a Spanish Oedipus, defying his tyrannical father Philip II and making abject love to his stepmother. Villazón filled in the emotional history of Carlos for me - his guilt at having killed the mother who died giving birth to him, his fear of a lethal father whose pastime was signing death warrants - and illustrated the schizophrenia of the music Verdi wrote for him. 'Listen to the way he is - sometimes very soft, pleading, lyrical, then he suddenly explodes with craziness.'
He crooned a few honeyed bars into my ear, then erupted in a spitting fury that I tried not to take personally. Before I had the chance to recover, he was lying on the floor, acting out the epileptic fits from which Carlos suffered. His eyes popped, his chest heaved, his breath came in rasping spasms; I was about to call for help when he laughed to exorcise this particular devil, jumped back into his seat, and talked about the tricky end of the opera, in which a spurious miracle saves Carlos from the Inquisition. 'When I did this opera in Amsterdam, the director refused to stage the miracle, so Carlos committed suicide in front of his father. I don't know yet what Nick Hytner wants me to do. But I have to say I love to kill myself!'
That is actually Villazón's vocation: wearing himself out on stage, shedding blood as he pours forth that molten, plaintive voice. 'I have to give the audience 100 per cent,' he said. 'I can do it no other way.' At lunchtime the day before, launching his new CD Cielo e Mar in a bar at the Royal Opera House, he treated a few dozen guests to three alternately ecstatic and tormented arias, sung with a force that made me fear for the chandelier above his head, then made an equally impassioned speech in which he celebrated music as 'the true nourishment of the spirit'.
Corporate honchos from Rolex, with whom he has an endorsement deal, swilled their champagne uneasily: they were there to shift merchandise, not save souls. 'We are living in the decadence of the interior life,' Villazón went on, adding a brief tirade against text messaging and the instant gratification of consumerist whims. 'We feel empty, so we fill up with stupid movies, or with food.' My hand, extended to grasp a passing canapé, guiltily retracted.
'But art opens our chests,' he continued. 'Art is a scalpel. Of course it can be hurtful. To open the chest you must make a wound, but that wound is a door. It shows the things that live inside a person - what makes it possible for us to jump into the sea or up to the clouds.' Once again, his rhetoric achieved lift-off, as he reached up towards the tinkling, agitated chandelier. No wonder he has described his wife, Lucia, as a necessary anchorage, tethering him like gravity: 'If I am the kite, she is the cord that keeps it close to the earth.' She must need both her hands to tug down her volatile husband, who is as aeronautical as his own high notes.
Villazón's messianic earnestness startled his listeners at the launch party. 'People said to me that they never hear speeches like that,' he told me later. 'Usually it's a just a few jokes so they can go back to drinking the champagne. But I meant it all, every word.' He may have meant more than he was saying out loud, because during his months off he questioned his conscience about the hucksterism that keeps classical music in business. His disc of duets with incendiary Russian soprano Anna Netrebko had a booklet in which they were photographed hugging, romping hand in hand and tickling one another's toes. Sex sells, and the recording company needed to unload CDs and DVDs of La traviata and La bohème; Netrebko and Villazón insisted that their partnership was confined to the theatre, though the denials sounded teasingly coy.
Last July in London, Netrebko began an affair with Uruguayan baritone Erwin Schrott, by whom she is now pregnant. Villazón's period of medical rest began soon afterwards, and he and Netrebko have not sung together since (though they are contracted to make joint appearances at the Metropolitan Opera and eventually, in Massenet's Manon, at Covent Garden). He looked back ruefully on those prurient efforts to brand them as a couple. 'A story was told though pictures about me and Anna that was not true or correct,' he said. For once, his rubbery, animated face had a solemn fixity. He is an idealist, who now knows that he can expect to be disillusioned or, perhaps, betrayed.
In his incautious, almost infantile candour, Villazón is a kind of holy fool or, perhaps, a knight riding off on an absurd crusade, preaching his musical gospel to an unworthy congregation of marketers, publicists and gossiping hacks. It was he who mentioned Don Quixote, the literary character who represents the interconnection of nobility and nonsense, aspiration and disaster. 'Living is a Quixotesque thing,' he said. 'We know we are going to die, we fail at whatever we try to do. But this is what gives us a reason to continue.'
Growing up in Mexico City, Villazón intended to devote himself to a calling more sacred than the erotically obsessive art of opera. He studied in a seminary and was a candidate for the priesthood. Before his ordination, he went on an Easter retreat to Popocatépetl, the quiescent volcano outside the city. He climbed to the top, perhaps expecting to hear God boom megaphonically from the crater or erupt in fire as on Sinai. The deity, however, was not in residence. 'Nothing happened for me. And I began to feel sorry for God - I understood that he needs us, not the other way round. So I went back down the volcano through the snow, and I felt the wind, and I looked at the village at the bottom and gradually I saw the people who lived there. Finally, I had this vision of Lucia, who was to become my wife. That revealed what my dream ought to be; to enter the monastery would be hiding. I just wandered away from Christianity - though I still admire Jesus as a man, a socialist maybe.' Or perhaps a singer, who made audible the distress of those he comforted. I recalled Villazón's claim that art performs open-heart surgery, baring our innards: had he been volunteering for the stigmata?
Vaulting ahead of me, he denounced imperial Rome for its corruption of Christianity. 'When the Emperor Constantine made it all official, it became the power machine that Jesus fought against. I think religion is a mistake that's now behind us. It was an invention - an invention of the rich, just like opera. I still have faith, but in other things. I believe in a force inside us, not in heaven. People who can afford opera tickets sometimes go for the wrong reasons, and fall asleep when the music starts. I hope that in Don Carlos we will make them cry with joy and sadness. Why not have faith in that? Or in a great violinist - someone who shits and pisses like me, but when he takes up his instrument he grows extra fingers and can do things that are extraordinary? Someone like that is flesh and blood, but he is also spirit.'
Physiology blends with metaphysics in Villazón's thinking. He went on to rhapsodise about the division of cells and outlined his belief in creative evolution, which - with opera as its chosen agent - is showing us how to reconcile body and soul. 'I realised two things during those months when I was not singing,' he said. 'One is that what I have to give to opera is unique, just as my colleagues have their own unique contributions to make. The second is that opera can get on perfectly fine without me. The performances I cancelled took place with other singers; evolution continued. I am only a voice among all the other voices, like in Verdi's Requiem.' For a moment, I fancied I could hear a celestial choir making the sky resonate. Villazón, however, is a tenor, capable of surmounting that massed ensemble with a high C or a B flat. Without pausing for breath, he described the 'nucleus of fire' he has inside him and lamented the way it was muffled and dampened by the 'watery sphere' that comes with success. He found his calling on a volcano; his period of retirement enabled him to reignite the blaze. I reminded him that he once told a German interviewer that he felt 'a little like Prometheus, who challenges the gods and steals fire from heaven'. 'Oh shit,' he moaned, 'it was so pretentious of me to say that! No, what happened last year was different: I recovered my humanity.'
Despite this modest attempt to ground himself, Villazón is a human being with a gift that seems superhuman, as well as a fondness for pretending to be a subhuman dinosaur. I hope that he tends the fire carefully and doesn't let it burn out.
The life story
Early Life
Born 1972 in Mexico City. His first exposure to music comes via the boxes of records his father, a Columbia Records employee, brings home.
Career
· 1983: Joins the Espacios Academy for the Performing Arts at the age of 11.
· 1990: Accepted as a pupil of Arturo Nieto, a prominent baritone.
· 1992: Torn between becoming a priest and a singer, he eventually decides to audition for the National Conservatory of Music
· 1999: Wins the Audience Prize, Zarzuela Prize and second prize overall in Plácido Domingo's Operalia Competition.
· 2007: Begins a new contract with Deutsche Grammophon but is forced to take a five-month break, suffering anxiety and a failing voice.
· 2008: Reappears on the opera stage in Vienna, singing the title role in Massenet's Werther
He says
'I sing with more energy now. If you take risks, you eventually fall and eat some dust. As difficult as it has been, it tasted good, the dust!'
· Don Carlos is at the Royal Opera House from 6 June to 3 July. 'Cielo e Mar' is released on 2 June
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I honestly do not know what to think. But in my personal opinion the Jackson Brothers have been long long over.Everyone on the face of this planet knows that MJ stood out and has ALWAYS stood out from his brothers. Honestly........before all of this the Jacksons were mostly afterthoughts except for Janet ...Janet and MJ honestly have had the most success in their careers. The Jackson brothers also had success but that success is in the past.
They are all getting older.....they should just sit back and enjoy their families and SUPPORT their brothers legacy. The key word here is SUPPORT their brothers legacy..Also they need to fight for justice until the end of this Hoax/Murder! They have had years of success time to let it go and just be themself become closer as a family should. We all know even MJ had been gone for a while out of the spotlight....Although we see now that even though he was out of the spotlight he was working on various projects. That is how MJ is remember? He leaves for a while and then BAM! New songs, new project, ect.... so..
If they are sooo concerned about MJ's death and are claiming Murder then we should see them on t.v. in some type of justice conference with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson! Rebbie saying it is NOT a MJ tribute! Honestly I was shocked the last song I heard from her was Centipede ! WHICH was wrote by MJ! So ummmmmmmm reviving careers at this poing to me is well......pointless! LEt it be Jacksons ! Just let it be! Thanks. :)
reading your response I get the feeling you are not over 30, because most people ages 35 and up love the Jacksons. They are very talented from dancing, singing, playing musical instruments and acting. Unless you've seen them perform live you really don't know the "Jackson Experience" and even during their last performance together in 2001, you can see from the crowds reaction that they were really enjoying the show. Truth is they (the family) made MJ what he was because all these entertaining practices were being done while he was young (his older brothers/father had music groups) so he had a chance to really become great by growing up in a household of entertainment...
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it's so easy to make promises and say big words if u know u never have to fulfill them ;) same story with Jermaine. He would go to prison for Mike? Let's face the truth here - He would NEVER do that in real :lol: Please...
He could not do that for real.
But what do you know about truth? And what do i know about truth?
"Don't judge a person, do not pass judgement, unless you have talked to them one on one"
I stole that one from Michael Jackson.
I can only agree on that.
That's why we all are here - for the truth. I highly doubt there's any person who have talked with Jermaine or Mike one on one... we all have our own opinions without talking to them. And what I said was my opinion and there's no need or use to try to change it or attack me with your opinion until I can see that J is actually helping Michael to come back. That means that Michael returns one day and THEN I will apologize Jermaine for all I said about him and for not believing him. But right now it seems like he's just taking all he can until the "iron is hot" and who can blame him? Easy job for him....
If there is no chance to talk to someone one by one and you have nothing nice to say without actually learning the truth then better not to say anything.
First you have to learn the truth and then you will be able to draw your own conclusion. Bashing someone and sayin' "it's ok if he proves i'm wrong i'll apologize" is not a good way to think. Not at all. YOU have to prove that you're right.
BTW calling him a pig is not an opinion at all. It's just rudeness.
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and I'm tired of people who will tear to pieces every word you write and who feel they need to act like some morality-police. I quess cogitative person can understand what I wanted to say and what I meant by my sarcasm...
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New photos:
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Over the past year I have found out more about the Jackson family and it has been good for me of course I always knew that Michael stood out from them but the family are super talented and it is good to see I have to say Jermaine is growing on me and it must be hard living in the shadow of your brother knowing you can never better him.
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
let's check out the rest of the numbers. we have 07/1923 left. I checked out what happened on 07 of 1923 and look what I found!!!
July 1923
Friday 13:
The Hollywood Sign is officially dedicated in the hills above Hollywood, Los Angeles. It originally reads "Hollywoodland " but the four last letters are dropped after renovation in 1949.
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/1923/
So those V videos are about Michael?!? Meet me at the Hollywood sign at 28th of August? OMG!!! :o :shock: :o
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
let's check out the rest of the numbers. we have 07/1923 left. I checked out what happened on 07 of 1923 and look what I found!!!
July 1923
Friday 13:
The Hollywood Sign is officially dedicated in the hills above Hollywood, Los Angeles. It originally reads "Hollywoodland " but the four last letters are dropped after renovation in 1949.
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/1923/
So those V videos are about Michael?!? Meet me at the Hollywood sign at 28th of August? OMG!!! :o :shock: :o
Totally!
07 - 1923 --> So..see you on 28 - august 2010 at the Hollywood sign as VforVanquish said? RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
Let's wait and see!
<3!
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
let's check out the rest of the numbers. we have 07/1923 left. I checked out what happened on 07 of 1923 and look what I found!!!
July 1923
Friday 13:
The Hollywood Sign is officially dedicated in the hills above Hollywood, Los Angeles. It originally reads "Hollywoodland " but the four last letters are dropped after renovation in 1949.
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/1923/
So those V videos are about Michael?!? Meet me at the Hollywood sign at 28th of August? OMG!!! :o :shock: :o
When did V said that
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
let's check out the rest of the numbers. we have 07/1923 left. I checked out what happened on 07 of 1923 and look what I found!!!
July 1923
Friday 13:
The Hollywood Sign is officially dedicated in the hills above Hollywood, Los Angeles. It originally reads "Hollywoodland " but the four last letters are dropped after renovation in 1949.
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/1923/
So those V videos are about Michael?!? Meet me at the Hollywood sign at 28th of August? OMG!!! :o :shock: :o
Totally!
07 - 1923 --> So..see you on 28 - august 2010 at the Hollywood sign as VforVanquish said? RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
Let's wait and see!
<3!
not sure if you read it or not..but i posted the other day when TS did and the numbers at the end of TS post..i typed in 1923 and got the information about the hollywood sign and it was also the date that.....the yellow checker taxi cabs first started on the streets!!..yellow taxi cab on judges desk...hollyland to hollywood to graceland to neverland!!...
huggs n keep the faith..
suzz
sorry i do not know how to put the topic number to show where i posted all this information sorry :oops:
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Fact is this tweet was meant to be like that. He left those numbers there because of something..he didn't do that before with the rest of the pics..
Now we have to wait for the hearing I guess..
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
let's check out the rest of the numbers. we have 07/1923 left. I checked out what happened on 07 of 1923 and look what I found!!!
July 1923
Friday 13:
The Hollywood Sign is officially dedicated in the hills above Hollywood, Los Angeles. It originally reads "Hollywoodland " but the four last letters are dropped after renovation in 1949.
http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/1923/
So those V videos are about Michael?!? Meet me at the Hollywood sign at 28th of August? OMG!!! :o :shock: :o
When did V said that
V says "Meet me in front of the Hollywood signs just one year from now" which is 13th of July. Jermaine wrote 28-2010-08 That's the reason why I wrote 28th of August. :)
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what about these??
(http://i36.tinypic.com/5wcwux.jpg)
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Way to go Jermaine! Keep em coming!
Not that related but Feb. 1923 caught my eye,
Friday 16:
Howard Carter unseals the burial chamber of Pharaoh Tutankhamun.
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:shock:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12704&p=212697&hilit=v+for+vendetta#p212697 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12704&p=212697&hilit=v+for+vendetta#p212697)
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what about these??
(http://i36.tinypic.com/5wcwux.jpg)
Didn't see them O.O (because I didn't check his twitter). That's the only tweet I saw with the numbers
Then might be just coincidence & a false alarm.
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28 august 2010 ??!! Right after the hearing..You be the judge.. ---> 28 - 2010- 8 - 07 - 1923 RT @jermjackson5 IMG00028-20100807-1923.jpg
That's what I made out of Jermaine's new tweet! Those numbers must mean something i don't know why did he let those numbers there if not.
the reasons why the numbers are
"20100807-1923" is because the photo was taken 2010/08/07 at 19:23pm.
I guess if you're right, that would mean he waited at the precise time.
Your theory makes a lot of sense! I hope you're right :D
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http://twitpic.com/2cnhy1 (http://twitpic.com/2cnhy1)
new photo
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can someone confirm for me: the next hearing for murrey is 8/28/10?
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can someone confirm for me: the next hearing for murrey is 8/28/10?
i think its on the 14th of this month
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OMG he is such a copycat.. i hate that he is using all what Michael has created.. even the clothes.. he will never be Michael.. he needs to get his own style... :evil:
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can someone confirm for me: the next hearing for murrey is 8/28/10?
i think its on the 14th of this month
23 of august
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can someone confirm for me: the next hearing for murrey is 8/28/10?
i think its on the 14th of this month
23 of august
that is the date i last remember hearing . the 28th stood out to me for another reason so i got a little tripped out.(is that a real expression or did i just make it up :lol: :? :lol: :oops:
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From Jermaine's twitter...what does the number mean? I must be missing something:
jermjackson5 I really appreciate your Love, Love to all my 6933 followers.
12:52 PM Aug 12th via web
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Oh duh...I guess that's how many followers he has right now. But with all the numerology floating around here, I guess I thought there could be something else to it.
He's up to 7119 followers now, only about 24 hours later. Is it me, or does that seem like a big jump for him?
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From Jermaine's twitter...what does the number mean? I must be missing something:
jermjackson5 I really appreciate your Love, Love to all my 6933 followers.
12:52 PM Aug 12th via web
He's up to 7119 followers now, only about 24 hours later. Is it me, or does that seem like a big jump for him?
Does seem to be a large jump in the number of followers in 24 hours to me too.
69
* Represent the perfection reached by those which liquidated their Karma, as a reward of the tests passed.
* Symbol of the couple, the attachment, where links are created.
* Resembles the Yin Yang symbol which represents Dualism
(http://www.fengshuihelp.com/Images/yin_yang.gif)
33 - The Master Healer
Number thirty-three’s symbolism is represented by the Archangel Michael. This well-known angelic figure is seen as the angel of protection and guidance. Additionally, from an astrological perspective, a combination of Cancer and Pisces make up the characteristics, both good and bad, of this master number in numerology.
As a result of the strong emotional connections that are apart of this master number, it is said that number thirty-three is associated with learning to discover the power of healing through love. The person with a life path number of thirty-three in numerology is learning to become totally selfless and to love unconditionally.
http://newage.suite101.com/article.cfm/numerology_number_33_the_master_healer
Chaldean Numerology
Chaldean or "Mystic Numerology" is the older numerology of the two numerology systems. While Chaldean Numerology is considered more accurate, it's less popular. This is because the Chaldean Numerology system is not as easy to master, and the alphabet values are not in as systematic an order as the other Numerology system. The name, when analyzed under Chaldean Numerology, gives a more occult or metaphysical flavor to the destiny that's interwoven into the person's character. Chaldean Numerology indicates the hidden forces or invisible strings at play behind the scenes.
http://www.professionalnumerology.com/chaldeansystem.html
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33
This number has no potency of its own and consequently has the same meaning as 24 — which is also a 6 — and the next to it in its own series of "compound" numbers.
24
This number is also fortunate; it promises the assistance and association of those of rank and position with one's plans; it also denotes gain through love and the opposite sex; it is a favorable number when it comes out in relation to future events.
http://www.professionalnumerology.com/chaldeansystem.html
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That DOES seem like a big jump...???
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That DOES seem like a big jump...???
I know he probably has genuine fans but don't you think there are a lot of Michael's fans following him too? There are people who are following him just to see if he slips up again.
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Not saying much. Just thought I'd give you a heads up. I'm out for the nite.
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Thanks! Jermaine usually is eating or about to eat when he posts. That's just my observation.
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Maybe they are on the roof with Tito getting ready to tell the "Troot" and talk to Doo Doo :lol:
*Sorry couldn't resist.*
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Have we heard from Randy latley? :?
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Thanks! Jermaine usually is eating or about to eat when he posts. That's just my observation.
LOL, that's funny. I wouldn't have noticed that.
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Thank you for your support, we as a family will not stop until Justice is brought forward and the Truth to Prevail
http://twitter.com/JermJackson5 (http://twitter.com/JermJackson5)
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I saw that tweet it could be taken many ways it is good to see the familys tweets
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Seems Jermaine, Tito and all the Jackson clan are really getting to see the world these last few months. Guess their finances have vastly improved :roll:
jermjackson5
I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.
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Seems Jermaine, Tito and all the Jackson clan are really getting to see the world these last few months. Guess their finances have vastly improved :roll:
jermjackson5
I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.
1) Why the assumption and why the :roll: ?
2) Did you know that a ticket Los Angeles- Paris- Los Angeles is available as from just $448?
3) Why not be happy for them, for having a good time?
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Yeah, big thanks to Michael for that.
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Oh the prejudice...still after all these months... :cry: I really don't get it... Please, STOP judging, because you have no idea what is really going on!
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Yeah, big thanks to Michael for that.
É verdade ... exatamente como sempre foi ... :roll:
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Yeah, big thanks to Michael for that.
É verdade ... exatamente como sempre foi ... :roll:
Oops, :oops:
"It's true ... just as it has always been ..." :roll:
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Per my search with American Airline, tickets for one way to Paris starts from $2,177.
$448 tickets is price from LA to New York if not more.
How come people "know" so much about America in distance, not living here, all are "professors" in American affairs, politics, social life, etc.
https://www.aa.com/reservation/matrixFl ... 078309-978 (https://www.aa.com/reservation/matrixFlightSearchReturnAccess.do?v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_locale=en_US&bookingPathStateId=1284322078309-978&v_locale=en_US&v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_locale=en_US&bookingPathStateId=1284322078309-978)
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Seems like some things will never change...
Hi Jermaine if you read this! Hope you're enjoying your stay in France, I bet that this tweet is a clue about the architecture of Paris. Wonder if it's about La Pyramide du Louvres?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UAGhkzNkerA/S98xzers4YI/AAAAAAAABzg/lQsoJFFFITE/s1600/pyramyde+du+louvre.jpg)
"I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing."
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Comments like these always makes me smile. Who deserves the :roll: more?
The person who makes $300,000 per year and spends $2,000 on a plane ticket or the person who makes $40,000 per year and spends $500 on a plane ticket?
It's all relative... and like others have said already, you should never judge another as you don't know the whole story... you don't know the motive.
For example (and sorry for such a terrible example) but if you suddenly found our Jerm was dying and had one year to live and he was travelling to Paris and as many place as possible with his family, would it be so bad? :?:
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Per my search with American Airline, tickets for one way to Paris starts from $2,177.
$448 tickets is price from LA to New York if not more.
How come people "know" so much about America in distance, not living here, all are "professors" in American affairs, politics, social life, etc.
https://www.aa.com/reservation/matrixFl ... 078309-978 (https://www.aa.com/reservation/matrixFlightSearchReturnAccess.do?v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_locale=en_US&bookingPathStateId=1284322078309-978&v_locale=en_US&v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_mobileUAFlag=AA&v_locale=en_US&bookingPathStateId=1284322078309-978)
I have internet as well you know, and I can search for tickets also. There is an American Airline Angeles - Paris - Los Angeles flight departing on 9/27 and returning on 10/4 for $959 Round-Trip. You only pay ridiculously high prices for tickets if you don't book in advance. The closer you book to the day you want to travel, the more you pay, it's as simple as that. And by the way - I have visited the USA more than once.
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Comments like these always makes me smile. Who deserves the :roll: more?
The person who makes $300,000 per year and spends $2,000 on a plane ticket or the person who makes $40,000 per year and spends $500 on a plane ticket?
It's all relative... and like others have said already, you should never judge another as you don't know the whole story... you don't know the motive.
For example (and sorry for such a terrible example) but if you suddenly found our Jerm was dying and had one year to live and he was travelling to Paris and as many place as possible with his family, would it be so bad? :?:
But we know through your twitter, this is not the problem.
Yes, Jermaine more than any other is taking advantage of a sad situation to make his fame and money at the expense of Michael as he could not.
Jermaine never "forgave" Michael to have him replaced as leader of the "Jackson Five", only by his talent, charisma, since only a small child, and conquered the whole world at your feet!
It's just very sad! :(
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:roll: :roll: never ceases to amaze me. :|
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Is it that only certain people are allowed to make a comment regarding Jermaine and 'em? :roll: Just asking for clarity. At any rate, If it ain't hoax related, think I'll steer clear from now on. :roll:
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Is it that only certain people are allowed to make a comment regarding Jermaine and 'em? :roll: Just asking for clarity. At any rate, If it ain't hoax related, think I'll steer clear from now on. :roll:
No, not at all. It just saddens me deeply that people still jump to conclusions, and judge the Jacksons while they don't know why they do certain things.
I asked you three simply questions about your comments regarding Jermaine's tweet, but instead of answering them you feel attacked and say "Is it that only certain people are allowed to make a comment regarding Jermaine and 'em? :roll: ". That I don't understand.
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I personally don't know by any exact science why anyone in this hoax would do things as they have been done. That is why, I assumed, we are questioning EVERYTHING. I don't have any allegiance to Jermaine as I feel, and I elaborate on "I", that he wants the limelight more than he wants the breath in his lungs. He can go where ever he pleases and tweet all day long about it. But like I said, I will leave opinions regarding him and the rest of them, to myself henceforth. At least in this forum ;)
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Comments like these always makes me smile. Who deserves the :roll: more?
The person who makes $300,000 per year and spends $2,000 on a plane ticket or the person who makes $40,000 per year and spends $500 on a plane ticket?
It's all relative... and like others have said already, you should never judge another as you don't know the whole story... you don't know the motive.
For example (and sorry for such a terrible example) but if you suddenly found our Jerm was dying and had one year to live and he was travelling to Paris and as many place as possible with his family, would it be so bad? :?:
But we know through your twitter, this is not the problem.
Yes, Jermaine more than any other is taking advantage of a sad situation to make his fame and money at the expense of Michael as he could not.
Jermaine never "forgave" Michael to have him replaced as leader of the "Jackson Five", only by his talent, charisma, since only a small child, and conquered the whole world at your feet!
It's just very sad! :(
How do you know that Jermaine never forgave Michael? Do you know Jermaine personally? Just asking maybe you do who knows...
How do you guys know with what money Jermaine actually bought his flight? And does it matter in the first place? This is none of our business. It always amaze me because when it comes to money...I don't care about the money he can spend it all after all, I mean we're coming in the end of times who cares about the money.
We really should ban the rolling eyes emo...
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do YOU know him????? If so, then perhaps you can enlighten us who don't. If not then I would say you are doing the exact same thing as everybody else, stating an OPINION or asking a question. Every body has the right to do that. Not just some.
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do YOU know him????? If so, then perhaps you can enlighten us who don't. If not then I would say you are doing the exact same thing as everybody else, stating an OPINION or asking a question. Every body has the right to do that. Not just some.
No, I don't know Jermaine that's why I'm asking the question because what people have stated here imply that they know him. I just said that it was not our concern I never judged him, and I think that the comments here are not about stating an opinion but rather being judgemental. This is judging someone's behaviour based on speculations because nodoby has the answers to the questions I've asked obviously. So when we don't know it's better to stay neutral in my opinion. But of course I cannot and will not prevent you from giving your 'opinion' but when you do so expect to have such reactions as mine.
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Do you guys really expect Jermaine to be crying in bed, sucking his thumb a year later?
He has his own money and his own life. Let the man be, please.
Not everything in his life revolves around Michael. :/
Please discuss how it has some (if any) hoax relation, or it's a lock.
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I believe that Jermaine has right of going it has where it wants :?
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I can't believe how critical some people are!
Jermaine BEEN traveling the world over the years not ONLY after MJ passed. BEFORE 6/25/09 I read that Marlon and the brothers were back and forth to Africa to develop an African Experience type of museum that would chronicle the history of black people. He is free to go to Paris if he wants!!
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Before this get locked....I want to throw this out there:
The architect...not architecture. One architect that comes to mind is I M Pei. He is the Chinese architect that designed the pyramid at the Louvre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._M._Pei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._M._Pei)
What other architects are prominent in Paris? I M Pei stands out because of pyramid to me. Any thoughts......
Blessings Always........
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so i am guessing that going to paris is really not that big a deal for jermaine. so why bother. do these celebraties really twitter frivilously like this or is there a possible reason?
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I really think Jermaine after all of these years is as much a loving Brother as any of the Jackson bros. Laugh at me or giggle, whatever, but I think that Jermaine's actions now -a-days is all part of the bigger picture, and what Michael has in store. I sometimes try and find fault in some things Jermaine does even now based on really old news and old antics of his and when I catch myself I feel really ugly inside. I see love in his eyes not for Michael's money but for his Brother. It will be fun to watch and see what Jermaine does next... ;)
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my opinion? i like jermaine. i like all the brothers and sisters. i, for one, am very, very grateful for jermaine's role in this hoax. if not for him, we wouldn't have the very clear "airport" slip up, the announcement of the "death," the "this is not it, this is not the final curtain call," the larry king interviews and all that jazz. whether him being in paris is another clue or just a vacation, hell he should take it. i understand there can sometimes be jealousy and bitterness between siblings. God knows i've experienced it with my brother. at the end of the day, it's family first. i think it's still hard for some people to look at the jacksons and see them as just a normal family as a opposed to a "showbiz family." i think it's important to remember we need to make that distinction.
jermaine, if you're reading. enjoy paris if you're there. i appreciate your role and i thank you. i can't wait for your next slip up. you always boost my faith and keep me entertained :P
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Why is the man fannying around in France.. where are his children??? Why isnt he looking after them and why isnt he looking after MJs children??
That is what gets me angry... those children are just left abandoned whilst everyone else swans about.
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Why is the man fannying around in France.. where are his children??? Why isnt he looking after them and why isnt he looking after MJs children??
That is what gets me angry... those children are just left abandoned whilst everyone else swans about.
Excuse me..?? Abandoned children?? I can't believe what I'm reading...unbelievable... :? For crying out loud - stop judging!
Hey Jermaine, it seems that you must be accountable for your activities to total strangers nowadays!
In general:
I seriously don't understand the "Jermaine bashing" that has been going on since the start of this hoax. Why do people keep jumping to conclusions, why is he judge him all the time? Oh no, not all the time, I forgot that when Jermaine sends a good tweet or gives a good slip-up, everybody loves him...but beware if he does something that doesn't fit people's ideas...! :?
Keep in mind that everybody plays a roll in all this, Jermaine as well, so please refrain from bashing and judging while you have NO IDEA what the purpose or meaning of certain things are. Remember - things are not always as they seem, and I think we have had loads of evidence during the last 14+ months that proves that.
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Well....First I would like to say that I think it is totally none of our business what Jermaine or any of the Jackson's do.
Second....I happen to love all the Jackson's and believe that they love Michael more than we could ever know, they are his family after all. And I think Michael would be so upset to see people (His Fans) criticizing everything or every move that his family makes. Knowing Michael's loving & forgiving ways as we have come to learn in the past year, I would say he loves his family no matter what has happened in the past, and to me that is all that matters.
They (The Jackson's) owe us nothing and can do whatever they want. I also believe that just like Michael, none of them are or were broke money wise and they all make their own way! So, I would say unless you live with Jermaine and know his personal details, the judging needs to stop as I am sure it hurts Michael, as well as his family to see them judge so harshly.
Much love & blessings to Michael, Jermaine, and all the Jackson Family. May God bless & keep you all in his loving embrace! :)
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Im allowed my opinion, and you are allowed yours.
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Im allowed my opinion, and you are allowed yours.
Sure you are, but you wrote about "abandoned children", without even knowing where Jermaine's kids are. They have a mother as well, or did you forget about that?
All we know about Jermaine and his children is what the media told us. It keeps amazing me that just about every article that's dissing Jermaine is accepted as "truth" and opinions are based upon those, while the fans freak out about every article in which Mike is dissed, and then it's all of a sudden "The media LIES!!". Double standards anyone..? :?
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I just think that these discussions are totally useless.
Let the Jackson's at peace ... they have a life, their own money, their feelings and the right to live as any other human being.
I can not go judging their behavior in relation to Michael. The Family is family and they alone know what kind of relationship they've always has ... for me they love Michael, but in their differences as in any family, after all know that Michael was not a saint!! :lol:
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Im allowed my opinion, and you are allowed yours.
Sure you are, but you wrote about "abandoned children", without even knowing where Jermaine's kids are. They have a mother as well, or did you forget about that?
All we know about Jermaine and his children is what the media told us. It keeps amazing me that just about every article that's dissing Jermaine is accepted as "truth" and opinions are based upon those, while the fans freak out about every article in which Mike is dissed, and then it's all of a sudden "The media LIES!!". Double standards anyone..? :?
Like is said.. you are allowed your opinion and i am allowed mine.
Other people write things on here that i dont agree with, but i dont jump at people as they might be right and i might be wrong.
These are my feelings. There are three grieving children.. plus his own... if this is not a hoax, then this is not right. Jermaine writes these things on a public twitter account so he should expect people to have opinions on it. If he didnt, then he shouldnt go on social websites announcing what he is up to. He has made himself open to scrutiny. NO one else has done that, he has.
I have an opinion and you have yours. This is a forum to debate these opinions. To find the truth.
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Im allowed my opinion, and you are allowed yours.
Sure you are, but you wrote about "abandoned children", without even knowing where Jermaine's kids are. They have a mother as well, or did you forget about that?
All we know about Jermaine and his children is what the media told us. It keeps amazing me that just about every article that's dissing Jermaine is accepted as "truth" and opinions are based upon those, while the fans freak out about every article in which Mike is dissed, and then it's all of a sudden "The media LIES!!". Double standards anyone..? :?
Like is said.. you are allowed your opinion and i am allowed mine.
Other people write things on here that i dont agree with, but i dont jump at people as they might be right and i might be wrong.
These are my feelings. There are three grieving children.. plus his own... if this is not a hoax, then this is not right. Jermaine writes these things on a public twitter account so he should expect people to have opinions on it. If he didnt, then he shouldnt go on social websites announcing what he is up to. He has made himself open to scrutiny. NO one else has done that, he has.
I have an opinion and you have yours. This is a forum to debate these opinions. To find the truth.
First, I don't classify it as OPINION, it was a very judgmental post... you bashed him on something you don't know anything about... You don't know if those kids are with him.... I think you should mind your business, I don't like people who make assumption like this....
He wrote a simple tweet: 'I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.' Even IF this is not an hoax, what is wrong on spending some days in Paris and enjoy himself....?? what he should do.....?
Jermaine is free to do, write, say whatever he wants! Don't bash him, for God's sake!
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Love you Avatar Mo - looks like the Arc de Triomphe in France shaped as an M.
There is a ceremony at the Arc de Triomphe every November 11. Was it 11 guys become 1100 guys for the drill?
Of course we don't need to analyze everything for meaning. Maybe Jermaine just thinks the architect is amazing.
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Hypocrite world we're living in. If an anonymous person who also happens to have kids wants to go to Paris (or anywhere else for that matter), no one takes offense. When someone who's (somewhat) famous, wants to eat at McDonald's around the corner of his/her house, he/she should ask permission PLUS the next day he/she can read in the tabloids he/she is addicted to junk food.
This judgemental behaviour is exactly what (almost) destroyed MJ and many other celebs. No matter how famous someone is, at all times he/she is entitled to a personal life and it is absolutely no ones business how he/she lives his/her life. Managing/controlling your own life alone should be a big enough task for everyone, no need to try to do that for others.....
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The irreflenable tendency of humans to judge the actions of others should be subject to the sole discretion of those who exercise, let us not hesitate to submit to a severe trial to our own thoughts and attitudes, as we put this in practice we find that no slightest authority to judge.
You can not judge a person who does not know, and whose intimate feelings or motives we do not have the slightest knowledge.
We are not to be telling who what Jermaine or Michael should or should not do. It's amazing how someone's intentions may be good, but the bias becomes a bad thing.
Do not criticize, do not blame and judge.
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[youtube:2mrw574s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAH-8tRbZdw[/youtube:2mrw574s]
This type of reaction is becoming predictable now.
I think when someone has such a strong reaction towards any of The Jackson's it reveals a jealousy.
This is how I view comments that are of the bashing nature, jealousy and "fans" feeling entitled.
I don't think those who are so critical of Jermaine or any of Mike's family would like the roles to be reversed and they can be under a microscope ALL the TIME.
Let me know when I can be critical of every move you make (that applies to anyone who is offended at Jermaine living)
Peace
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Very well said Im_convincedmjalive, we have to see who likes who are judging what you are being hecen with his life, and it is unfortunate but that's why Michael Lydian lifetime.
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life is to be lived the way one wants to and no one should ever try to judge them.
GOD is the only one that has that right.
this is what MICHAEL was trying to show us. NOT TO JUDGE WITH OUT THE FACTS
he was judged for everything he did in life and it was never fair judging.
Michael and his family are just like us forget about the fact that they are famous.
I have always loved Michael for who he was not for what he could do. the good hearted man came first
then the music. and i feel that same way for his family.
life can not be easy knowing that everything you say or do is going to be interpreted in the wrong way.
LOTS OF LOVE MICHAEL AND ALL OF YOUR FAMILY.
HUGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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18WheelLady - great post I totally concur with you. Judging others is not our right.
Also, a one-way ticket to Paris can cost that much if you book it for the next day. If you book in advance let's say 7 days in advance, you will pay around $650.00 -- big difference.
People tend to forget that the Jackson 5 were superstars back in the day (my day - as I grew up with listening to their music) and so they were ALL making money very early on in life. So to say that they were using Michael's money or that MJ was supporting them is just a public assumption. Don't forget these guys made lots of money back in the day and we don't know how they invested their money or what they did. I think it is a personal matter between the brothers and the family if MJ gave/loaned/financed money for his family -- it's not any of our business. For example, just like if I gave my brother $50,000.00 - is that really any of your business?
Michael loves his family as we love our respective families. So, let's try and be courteous and respectful when posting about his family.
L.O.V.E.
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I would like to come back to the OP information and reply to that and forget about the rest of this thread that I am personally ashamed of having had to read.
Paris and "the architect" deliver the following interesting results:
During this entire period [The Medieval Period (1100-1526)], the “architect” per se didn’t yet exist, and important Paris buildings were designed and constructed by teams of masons.
http://www.parisnotes.com/architecture/parisbuildings.html
GRAND PARIS: THE PRESIDENT AND THE ARCHITECT
Directed by: Bregtje van der Haak
Duration: 50 | The Netherlands, 2009
Summary
French president Sarkozy not only wants to see a prestigious building built in his name – but he wants to shape the future of Paris in its entirety.
That is why he launches the mega project Grand Paris, inviting ten leading architects to draw up a plan for the future growth of Paris.
What should Paris look like in 30 years? This documentary follows the Dutch architect Winy Maas of MVRDV and the French star architects Christian de Portzamparc, Roland Castro, Jean Nouvel and Djamel Klouche.
They are asked to contribute ideas to the conversion of Paris and its suburbs into a 21st century metropolis.
But how do you do that? How do you keep your footing in the vortex of power, media and architecture?
The director about her film
I wanted to show the other side of architects and architecture: the process of reflecting, negotiating, thinking, waiting, trying, talking, listening.
Everything else but drawing and building.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:n-EtRBSlAJsJ:www.ecofilms.gr/popup2005en.asp%3FYear%3D2010%26reqid%3DM-06+paris+the+architect&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de&client=firefox-a
http://icarusfilms.com/new2010/gp.html
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I would like to come back to the OP information and reply to that and forget about the rest of this thread that I am personally ashamed of having had to read.
Paris and "the architect" deliver the following interesting results:
During this entire period [The Medieval Period (1100-1526)], the “architect” per se didn’t yet exist, and important Paris buildings were designed and constructed by teams of masons.
http://www.parisnotes.com/architecture/parisbuildings.html
GRAND PARIS: THE PRESIDENT AND THE ARCHITECT
Directed by: Bregtje van der Haak
Duration: 50 | The Netherlands, 2009
Summary
French president Sarkozy not only wants to see a prestigious building built in his name – but he wants to shape the future of Paris in its entirety.
That is why he launches the mega project Grand Paris, inviting ten leading architects to draw up a plan for the future growth of Paris.
What should Paris look like in 30 years? This documentary follows the Dutch architect Winy Maas of MVRDV and the French star architects Christian de Portzamparc, Roland Castro, Jean Nouvel and Djamel Klouche.
They are asked to contribute ideas to the conversion of Paris and its suburbs into a 21st century metropolis.
But how do you do that? How do you keep your footing in the vortex of power, media and architecture?
The director about her film
I wanted to show the other side of architects and architecture: the process of reflecting, negotiating, thinking, waiting, trying, talking, listening.
Everything else but drawing and building.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:n-EtRBSlAJsJ:www.ecofilms.gr/popup2005en.asp%3FYear%3D2010%26reqid%3DM-06+paris+the+architect&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=de&client=firefox-a
http://icarusfilms.com/new2010/gp.html[/quote
Thank you Grace! I posted earlier about I M Pei.....the architect of the Louvre pyramid. I think this is a very interesting tweet. I wish all the negativeness would get re focused and dig around what he tweeted :?
Thanks for this information.......great work Grace!!!!
Blessings Always
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Love you Avatar Mo - looks like the Arc de Triomphe in France shaped as an M.
There is a ceremony at the Arc de Triomphe every November 11. Was it 11 guys become 1100 guys for the drill?
Of course we don't need to analyze everything for meaning. Maybe Jermaine just thinks the architect is amazing.
Michael's arc in TII is NOT forming an M. (no fast food digital cheeseburger this time :lol: )
It says P1.
;)
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Im not backing down on my opinion. This is my opinion and its how i feel.
I cant help that. When i think of how this may not be a hoax, then i am angry and bewildered by the families behaviour. It isnt right and i have a voice to say that. Free speech.
Thanks. Wont be adding anymore to this thread. x
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Love you Avatar Mo - looks like the Arc de Triomphe in France shaped as an M.
There is a ceremony at the Arc de Triomphe every November 11. Was it 11 guys become 1100 guys for the drill?
Of course we don't need to analyze everything for meaning. Maybe Jermaine just thinks the architect is amazing.
Michael's arc in TII is NOT forming an M. (no fast food digital cheeseburger this time :lol: )
It says P1.
;)
:shock: I stand corrected. The arc looks like the Arc de Triomphe shaped as a P1.
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Im not backing down on my opinion. This is my opinion and its how i feel.
I cant help that. When i think of how this may not be a hoax, then i am angry and bewildered by the families behaviour. It isnt right and i have a voice to say that. Free speech.
Thanks. Wont be adding anymore to this thread. x
I understand were you coming from DancingTheDream. Because I do remember 'Word to the badd', it still gives me a bad taste.
[youtube:2mazji9m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdzNLnzdhw[/youtube:2mazji9m]
I do believe that he and Michael did reconcile after that and I hope Jermaine really has the best intensions for his brother right now. I'm sorry Jermaine, please be good!
I have no opinion whatsoever of Jermaine being in Paris or abandoning his children, because really that's none of my business (and ofcourse they do have a mother also) but it's about the feeling that I had of Jermaine in the past. Peace.
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My over-riding thoughts are that people are being paid off. I cant help these thoughts. Things dont add up, people are not acting right. :!:
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Love you Avatar Mo - looks like the Arc de Triomphe in France shaped as an M.
There is a ceremony at the Arc de Triomphe every November 11. Was it 11 guys become 1100 guys for the drill?
Of course we don't need to analyze everything for meaning. Maybe Jermaine just thinks the architect is amazing.
Michael's arc in TII is NOT forming an M. (no fast food digital cheeseburger this time :lol: )
It says P1.
;)
P1 ? I must have been in a cave......this is the first I see of this. Interesting, it does look like P1. Even more interesting are the gematria matches:
50 = P1 (spelled out) P one = June, drug, Frank, scared, yet, I Ching
I just find these interesting......
Blessings!
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Hypocrite world we're living in. If an anonymous person who also happens to have kids wants to go to Paris (or anywhere else for that matter), no one takes offense. When someone who's (somewhat) famous, wants to eat at McDonald's around the corner of his/her house, he/she should ask permission PLUS the next day he/she can read in the tabloids he/she is addicted to junk food.
This judgemental behaviour is exactly what (almost) destroyed MJ and many other celebs. No matter how famous someone is, at all times he/she is entitled to a personal life and it is absolutely no ones business how he/she lives his/her life. Managing/controlling your own life alone should be a big enough task for everyone, no need to try to do that for others.....
Halleluja.
I can't believe the ignorance and prejudice STILL after 14+ months. I thought Mike taught his fans not to judge others, yet Jermaine is bashed time and time again. I will stop my opinion about this behaviour here, because if I go on people might really get offended and let's keep this peaceful here...
@Jermaine: I'm a little jealous! I so want to visit the Louvre and for me it's only a few-hour-drive to Paris, but in some mysterious way I have never been there to this day. Have a great time and tweet some good pictures of the beautiful art of Paris. And when you're back we would like to see/hear a nice new slip-up!
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My over-riding thoughts are that people are being paid off. I cant help these thoughts. Things dont add up, people are not acting right. :!:
@DancingTheDream,
When I express "MY opinion" only it is NOT directed at anyone in particular. If I address someone I make sure to include there user name so there isn't a misunderstanding on who I am speaking to.
I made a general statement about how I FEEL about critical and judgemental (entitlement type attitudes) comments.
You're most definetly entitled to your opinion and feelings. Free speech is your right as it is mine.
I don't expect you NOT to voice your feelings towards this "hoax"
I even wrote in your thread when you were having an off day.
This post I quoted above, I wonder Where is the manual and the truth on what acting right is when there is a "death" in the family?
Peace
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Maybe he is behaving like this for a reason... i have thought of so many scenarios....
im trying to get things right in my head and Jermaine is one of these people who is acting oddly.
I also dont care for his concerts that are him singing MJ songs and wearing his costumes. Those are my feelings on the matter and i cant help those feelings.
This isnt "bashing", this is trying to sort out my head and my feelings. Not everyone is innocent in all this, i am afraid, and i am trying to decipher who is who in this big mess. I dont trust anyone right now.. and MJ would know how that feels!!
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Maybe he is behaving like this for a reason... i have thought of so many scenarios....
im trying to get things right in my head and Jermaine is one of these people who is acting oddly.
I also dont care for his concerts that are him singing MJ songs and wearing his costumes. Those are my feelings on the matter and i cant help those feelings.
This isnt "bashing", this is trying to sort out my head and my feelings. Not everyone is innocent in all this, i am afraid, and i am trying to decipher who is who in this big mess. I dont trust anyone right now.. and MJ would know how that feels!!
I think it's time for you to let go of YOUR feelings. This is not about you or your feelings. It is HIS family, his life, his brother, his hoax and he is doing this for you, for me, and for every other decent and loving person on this planet, so we can grow old in a healthy and free world equally together. We can only accomplish that if we get rid of the "I' and "me". There is no "I" in TEAM. Jermaine is helping him. Does he get paid? Who knows? Maybe he does get paid, but he has to take a LOT of shit from the fans and maybe he spends a lot of time on this as well. Why shouldn't he get paid? I don't have a problem with it. If I would start my own business tomorrow and I would ask my brother to work for me, should he do that for free? No, I would want to pay him and I would not feel comfortable if I didn't. He has a rent to pay as well. So whatever agreement they have made, it's THEIR (so also Mike's) choice and it is really NONE of our business.
As harsh at it may sound, you are not a part of his life, other than that you are a fan who appreciates him and loves his music. You don't know Mike, you don't know his family and you don't know what relationship they all have. Jermaine said he's Mike's backbone, Mike said he loved his brothers and sisters and that his family is important. Is that a lie? Maybe, but I believe this until I hear them say otherwise and as long as that doesn't happen I don't judge. I have had my share of problems with one of my brothers as well, some also involving money. That doesn't mean I love him less for it.
All we can do here is investigate the circumstances surrounding his 'death' and life. If there is one thing that Mike made very clear is that people should not judging others they have never spoken to one-on-one. Of course there are exceptions like Tom Sneddon, Diane Demon, Martin Batshit and all the other snakes and leeches who have proven to be evil to the bone.
And again: I advise you to read TS' posts, because it seems you still haven't.
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'I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.'
I think Jermaine possibly made a simple spelling error, which everyone does in fast-paced typing of tweets, emails, posts here, etc. On the other hand he may intentionally be meaning the occupation of architect, as a double meaning, but I doubt it. I think he means the architecture is beautiful which is obvious to any tourist travelling to Europe.
I think Michael, in creating this hoax, and employing his family and some friends, associates in the carrying out of the plan, knows full well that he is placing certain ones out in the front lines of battle. Jermaine is such a one. And I believe he can handle it well. So we can fire away; goodness, he knows what bashing, judging, and lying media, fans, etc. are all about. We are trying to find truth, and I'm thinking the people who posted the initial offending comments were not offensive to me at all. They reflected what loads of people probably think, but obviously not all people. And so some people responded with comebacks putting things into better perspective. That's what healthy debate is all about. If I start feeling afraid to post here, because I might get attacked as being offensive, it will have the effect of making me feel afraid to post this and that because who knows what someone might think, since I'm not always good at predicting how others will feel about something. I don't have the ability to read people's minds. Anyway, I'll end with the little thing TS said this last post of his.
However, I’m going to add a few replies of my own. And let me make it clear that I don’t mind sincere criticism, because truth can stand up to questions and objections—the truth will prevail! The problem is when people make empty accusations, with no evidence, such as “TS is nonsense”; statements like this with no evidence are useless, and I won’t even try to respond to them....
Passing the test does not mean gullibly believing anything and everything that TS says, merely because TS is the one who says it; you have always been asked to verify the evidence for yourself, and debunk it if you can, etc. However, those who refuse anything and everything that TS says, merely because TS is the one who says it—regardless of any and all evidence that has never yet been debunked—they are not at the A+ level on the report card!
What I get from that is that any criticism is acceptable as long as there is legitimate reasoning behind it, and it's not just mudslinging. I mean I've had my moments wondering about Jermaine, and I study people's comments, compare, think, theorize and sometimes have commented. IDK it's a tricky thing criticising criticism. Here's my :? , :lol: That being said I'm always grateful for this site, the owners and moderators. :)
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If you just Google "the architect" you get a wide array of matches....films, newspapers etc.....
anyone have thoughts?
It's a good tweet...........
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These days some people speak about a jermaine's tweet...apparently he said "my brother is alive" and then,deleted it...Does anybody have seen it on twitter ??? :shock: :shock:
They also said,a change is preparing for the end of the month and some journalist would have seen Michael in wheelchair ... ???
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Hello,
I have wanted to write you privately for some time now to tell you how much I enjoy your posts and your writing style, in general. You have a wonderful talent for expressing yourself and I always look forward to reading what you have to say about this Crazy Hoax!
Keep up the good work!
Best Regards,
Heisinme09 AKA Bridget
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sorry if this is a double post.
according to jermaine's twitter, he's in london. apparently he did something on x factor? do all my european people on here know about this?
Hello, I'm in London, enjoying the cold weather, Love to all here. 6:25 PM Oct 16th via web
link: https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
and i know this is mentioned on another topic but, jackie tweets today:
Stay tuned guys! This week is going to be GREAT!! about 12 hours ago via TweetDeck
what's going on??
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Jermaine visits London/Europe quite often, and Jackie might as well talk about something sports-related.
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Jermaine visits London/Europe quite often, and Jackie might as well talk about something sports-related.
Yeah Jermaine always in another country like dang why does he travel so much? Then there be rumors about him not making child support payments. I hope he is paying since he got so much money to be traveling all the time. I kinda feel sorry for MJ mom being held financially responsible for all those kids staying at the Encino compound. Anyway the brothers have their own way of tweeting that's for sure. Jermaine always talk about traveling and his concerts, Jackie always talking about sports and his kids, Tito always macking to females talking about can you feel it and eating tacos.lol Marlon never tweets, and Randy he just tweets when he is gong off about something or putting somebody on blast. Sometimes it's funny to look at how different they are.lol I would love to spend a day with all the brothers in one room including MJ. I think they would actually be halarious especially with Jermaine. Jermaine and Marlon be making me laugh. Mostly Jermaine though because he just funny the way he acts.
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I think the problem is Jermaine spends all of his money on his hair. He probably flys to London just to go to some special salon :lol:
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Yeah Jermaine was on the Xtra Factor on last nights show for literally 5 minutes just aswering questions about the contestants nothing interesting here at all, although he did look strangely happy 8-)
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Jermaine visits London/Europe quite often, and Jackie might as well talk about something sports-related.
Yeah Jermaine always in another country like dang why does he travel so much? Then there be rumors about him not making child support payments. I hope he is paying since he got so much money to be traveling all the time. I kinda feel sorry for MJ mom being held financially responsible for all those kids staying at the Encino compound.
You said the right word - RUMORS. Don't base your opinion on them, do not judge Jermaine, you might burn your fingers.
Yeah Jermaine was on the Xtra Factor on last nights show for literally 5 minutes just aswering questions about the contestants nothing interesting here at all, although he did look strangely happy 8-)
Thank you Hollie.
Since Jermaine was a celebrity panelist on the Xtra Factor ITV 2 show it's normal procedure that his trip was paid for by Xtra Factor.
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:D
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sorry if this is a double post.
according to jermaine's twitter, he's in london. apparently he did something on x factor? do all my european people on here know about this?
Hello, I'm in London, enjoying the cold weather, Love to all here. 6:25 PM Oct 16th via web
link: https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
and i know this is mentioned on another topic but, jackie tweets today:
Stay tuned guys! This week is going to be GREAT!! about 12 hours ago via TweetDeck
what's going on??
I remember one of the "informers" said something about Oct 23rd 2010 which is this week...Could it be?? Or maybe not :lol:
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sorry if this is a double post.
according to jermaine's twitter, he's in london. apparently he did something on x factor? do all my european people on here know about this?
Hello, I'm in London, enjoying the cold weather, Love to all here. 6:25 PM Oct 16th via web
link: https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
and i know this is mentioned on another topic but, jackie tweets today:
Stay tuned guys! This week is going to be GREAT!! about 12 hours ago via TweetDeck
what's going on??
Love to All Here....LOOK AT THE TIME 6-25 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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sorry if this is a double post.
according to jermaine's twitter, he's in london. apparently he did something on x factor? do all my european people on here know about this?
Hello, I'm in London, enjoying the cold weather, Love to all here. 6:25 PM Oct 16th via web
link: https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
and i know this is mentioned on another topic but, jackie tweets today:
Stay tuned guys! This week is going to be GREAT!! about 12 hours ago via TweetDeck
what's going on??
Love to All Here....LOOK AT THE TIME 6-25 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only if mjfansince4 is located near California, or at least in the same timezone. If that is the case, it's even more interesting:
10/16 at 6:25
1+1+6+6+2+5=21 (or 777)
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Jermaine visits London/Europe quite often, and Jackie might as well talk about something sports-related.
Yeah Jermaine always in another country like dang why does he travel so much? Then there be rumors about him not making child support payments. I hope he is paying since he got so much money to be traveling all the time. I kinda feel sorry for MJ mom being held financially responsible for all those kids staying at the Encino compound.
You said the right word - RUMORS. Don't base your opinion on them, do not judge Jermaine, you might burn your fingers.
Yeah Jermaine was on the Xtra Factor on last nights show for literally 5 minutes just aswering questions about the contestants nothing interesting here at all, although he did look strangely happy 8-)
Thank you Hollie.
That's why I said rumors I didn't say it was a fact about Jermaine not paying child support. My statement was made based on if they are true. Not to be rude but don't over analyze people's statements. We need to lighten up a little. Just my opinion I didn't mean any harm towards Jermaine Jackson.
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sorry if this is a double post.
according to jermaine's twitter, he's in london. apparently he did something on x factor? do all my european people on here know about this?
Hello, I'm in London, enjoying the cold weather, Love to all here. 6:25 PM Oct 16th via web
link: https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
and i know this is mentioned on another topic but, jackie tweets today:
Stay tuned guys! This week is going to be GREAT!! about 12 hours ago via TweetDeck
what's going on??
Love to All Here....LOOK AT THE TIME 6-25 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only if mjfansince4 is located near California, or at least in the same timezone. If that is the case, it's even more interesting:
10/16 at 6:25
1+1+6+6+2+5=21 (or 777)
from southern california to be exact. :D interesting indeed.
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And Lotoya always tweeting about what store she is either shopping or eating in.
Who cares what about Justice for MJ.
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He is back:
They also did not want to call the album the King, because of Elvis, no disrespect to Elvis Michael Jackson id the KING!!! 2 minutes ago via web
as you can see this was done for GREED!!! 3 minutes ago via web
Sony should have known you can't fool the family and our fans, we are against this 1000% 4 minutes ago via web
I agree with you all, these vocal that we are hearing on the new release of my brother Michael, is not 100% him 4 minutes ago via web
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I Love you all, thank you for your Love and support...Always
6 minutes ago via web
They also did not want to call the album the King, because of Elvis, no disrespect to Elvis Michael Jackson id the KING!!!
11 minutes ago via web
as you can see this was done for GREED!!!
12 minutes ago via web
Sony should have known you can't fool the family and our fans, we are against this 1000%
13 minutes ago via web
I agree with you all, these vocal that we are hearing on the new release of my brother Michael, is not 100% him
14 minutes ago via web
Hello, I miss you all, just been busy traveling
14 minutes ago via web
Do not ask me anything. I feel like being part of a SF movie. I can't believe my eyes. they all bash it on twitter but no one goes leagal. If it is a FRAUD why don't they go legal? This speak volumes. It's just unbelievable
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Do you find it as ABSURD as I do? Another family member screaming on TWITTER about the fraud but why on earth don't they go legal if they did such a fraud??!
Am I the only one who finds all this simply absurd?! I mean if they did such a fraud and the family tries to instigate the fans against it and IF supposedly Sony did such a fraud in selling fake songs to the fans, then why don't they go and fill a court case?! I don't understand! Do they really think we are going to just swallow it? IF IT'S LEGAL CASE THEN WHY THE HELL DON'T YOU MEET IN COURT?! I'm sorry, I feel like exploding!
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@Tarja. I posted them above you? :arrow: :?
And yes... Jermaine has done the wrong thing here on twitter. Sometimes it is like the Jacksons really dont get the fans emotions and feelings. He has timed this wrong and all he has done is stir up more emotions without giving any answers.
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Ah sorry. I didn't see. I was a bit angry coming back from twitter.
Anyway... about what he said only one thing works for me right now: MINDCONTROL. This i all I can see from this. because if this would be a FRAUD, any normal human being would go and fill the docs against SONY. But they keep it to twitter and nothing else. just.. pfffffffffff. I feel like releasing my mouth and tell them something. I am not an idiot. I can make my own opinion out of everything and I won't believe a shit just because the family said so. I won't take as fact "It is 1000% not Michael" just because the family states it. I have a brain, I have ears to hear IT IS Michael on the song and it enrages me to see they trully believe we are all stupid probably, to believe ANYTHING we are told. I think this is absolutelly a move to see how many people are still believing ANYTHING they're being told.. And sadly there are still thousands of poeple who took for a fact what the family said and didn't even question it, didn't even TRY to have a personal opinion, their brain didn't work this out under any circumstance
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He is back:
I agree with you all, these vocal that we are hearing on the new release of my brother Michael, is not 100% him 4 minutes ago via web
LOL
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jermjackson5
I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.
Seems like some things will never change...
Hi Jermaine if you read this! Hope you're enjoying your stay in France, I bet that this tweet is a clue about the architecture of Paris. Wonder if it's about La Pyramide du Louvres?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UAGhkzNkerA/S98xzers4YI/AAAAAAAABzg/lQsoJFFFITE/s1600/pyramyde+du+louvre.jpg)
"I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing."
Yes, the Louvre but also the Egyptian Obelisk in Paris that is one of 3 significant ones outside of Egypt.
(http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Images/Paris/Monuments/Obelisque_Luxor_01.jpg)
Place De La Concorde: Obélisque de Luxor
The powerful Obelisk of Luxor, a pink granite monolith that was given to the French in 1829 by the viceroy of Egypt, Mehemet Ali. The edifice, which once marked the entrance to the Amon temple at Luxor, is more than 3,300 years old and is decorated with hieroglyphics portraying the reigns of the pharaohs Ramses II and Ramses III. Gilded images on the pedestal portray the monumental task of transporting the monolith to Paris and erecting it at the square. Installed in 1833, the Obelisk — weighing 230 tons and standing 22.83 meters (75 ft) high in the center of the Place — is flanked on both sides by two fountains constructed during the same period. Having survived more than 33 centuries, the Obelisk has suffered the greatest damage during the past half-century by air pollution from industry and motor vehicles.
http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Paris/Monuments-Paris/Obelisque.shtml
There is also Arc de Triomphe de l'Etoile.
(http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Images/Paris/Monuments/Arc_de_Triomphe_01-sm.jpg)
Arc de Triomphe de l'Etoile - Triumphal Arch of the Star
The Arc de Triomphe de l'Etoile, the world's largest triumphal arch, forms the backdrop for an impressive urban ensemble in Paris. The monument surmounts the hill of Chaillot at the center of a star-shaped configuration of 12 radiating avenues. It is the climax of a vista seen the length of the Champs Elysées from the smaller Arc de Triomphe du Carrousel in the Tuileries gardens, and from the Obélisque de Luxor in the place de la Concorde.
(http://michaeljackson.ae/truth/ak/historyteaser06.jpg)
Screen Cap - History Teaser
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The star is Sirius and this is Isis' star. This can also been seen on Napoleon's Coat of Arms for Paris, where we see Isis seated on a throne (her usual depiction by the way) on the bow of a ship with the star Sirius above.
(http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/isiscoat.jpg)
The city of Paris is actually named after the Goddess Isis, the woman who resurrected "Green Man" aka Osiris and they are parents of Horus. Horus' birth, life and death parallels Jesus'.
Myth of Osiris and Isis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_Osiris_and_Isis
Horus & Jesus Parallels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_in_comparative_mythology#Ancient_Egypt
The word "Paris" is derived from the French word "Para Isidore" literally meaning "the birth of Isis." The French words "Notre Dame" also refer to Isis. It simply means "Our Lady." This "Lady" was "Isis."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3812/is_199901/ai_n8851871/?tag=content;col1
Isis
Literally, Isis means "she of the throne". Her original headdress was a throne. As the personification of the throne, she was an important representation of the pharaoh's power, as the pharaoh was depicted as her child, who sat on the throne she provided. Her cult was popular throughout Egypt
The star Sept (which means "Seven") or Sirius is associated with Isis. The appearance of the star signified the advent of a new year and Isis was likewise considered the goddess of rebirth and reincarnation, and as a protector of the dead. The Book of the Dead outlines a particular ritual that would protect the dead, enabling travel anywhere in the underworld, and most of the titles Isis holds signify her as the goddess of protection of the dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
The Paris Meridian
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Obs-Paris-meridienne.jpg/450px-Obs-Paris-meridienne.jpg)
Meridian Room (or Cassini Room) at the Paris Observatory. The Paris Meridian is traced on the floor.
The Paris Meridian is a meridian line running through the Paris Observatory in Paris, France—now longitude 2°20′14.025″ east. It was a long-standing rival to Greenwich as the prime meridian of the world, as was the Meridian of Antwerp in Antwerp, Belgium.
(http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Arago_medallion_Paris.jpg/250px-Arago_medallion_Paris.jpg)
One of the 135 Arago medallions. This one is located near the Louvre Pyramid
In 1994 the Arago Association and the city of Paris commissioned a Dutch conceptual artist, Jan Dibbets, to create a memorial to Arago. Dibbets came up with the idea of setting 135 bronze medallions (although only 121 are documented in the official guide to the medallions) into the ground along the Paris Meridian between the northern and southern limits of Paris: a total distance of 9.2 kilometres/5.7 miles. Each medallion is 12 cm in diameter and marked with the name ARAGO plus N and S pointers.
In certain circles, some kind of occult or esoteric significance is ascribed to the Paris Meridian; sometimes it is even perceived as a sinister axis. Dominique Stezepfandts, a French conspiracy theorist, attacks the Arago medallions that supposedly trace the route of "an occult geographical line"; to him the Paris Meridian is a "Masonic axis" or even "the heart of the Devil."
Henry Lincoln, in his book The Holy Place, argues that various ancient structures are aligned according to the Paris Meridian. They even include medieval churches, built long before the meridian was established according to conventional history, and Lincoln finds it obvious that the meridian "was based upon the 'cromlech intersect division line'." David Wood, in his book Genisis, likewise ascribes a deeper significance to the Paris Meridian and takes it into account when trying to decipher the geometry of the myth-encrusted village of Rennes-le-Château: The meridian passes about 350 meters (1,150 ft) west of the site of the so-called "Poussin tomb," an important location in the legends and esoteric theories relating to that place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Meridian
The Rose Line
Rose Line is a name given to the Paris Meridian in the Priory of Sion mythology and popularized by Dan Brown in his novel The Da Vinci Code.
The 1967 Priory of Sion document Au Pays de la Reine Blanche states that "Rennes-les-Bains is located precisely on the Zero Meridian, which connects Saint-Sulpice in Paris" adding that "the parish of Rennes-les-Bains guards the heart of Roseline", being a reference to Saint Roseline de Villeneuve. Au Pays de la Reine Blanche also referred to "the line of the Zero Meridian, that is to say the red line, in English: 'Rose-line'". Later in 1978, Pierre Plantard also referred to the "red line of the meridian, the 'Rose-Line'...since Roseline, the Abbess of the 'Celle aux Arcs', celebrates her feast day on 17 January... and her legend is well worth a read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Line
The Pont de l'Alma Tunnel
On 31 August 1997, Diana, Princess of Wales, died as a result of injuries sustained in a car collision in the Pont de l'Alma road tunnel in Paris, France.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales
(http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ditorch.jpg)
The Pont D’Alma Tunnel was a sacred site dedicated to the Moon Goddess Diana, where they used to practice ritual sacrifices. During those ceremonies, it was of an utmost importance that the sacrificed victim died inside the underground temple. The assassination of Diana was a reenactment of this ancient pagan tradition. Shortly after Diana was killed, Rayelan Allan (a researcher of esoteric history since the early 1970′s, who was also married to Gunther Russbacher, a deep cover CIA/ONI operative) wrote an article called “Diana, Queen of Heaven”. The article was picked up by numerous newspapers across the United States and Europe. Several authors who have written books about the death of Princess Diana used Rayelan’s article as reference. However, no one fully understood the deeper meaning of the article. Therefore, Rayelan decided to expand it into a book. The book states that in pre-Christian times, the Pont d’Alma area had been the site of a pagan temple of the goddess Diana and a direct gateway to heaven. Mindful of this safety net, the place was chosen by the Merovingian kings (AD500-751) to fight their duels, with the loser going directly to paradise. ”Pont” means “bridge” and “Alma” means “soul” and for Merovingians, the site was a bridge across the “river of souls”. So, Pont de L’Alma, the site of the accident which killed Princess Diana, means “Bridge of the Soul.”
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=503
A visit to Paris by Jermaine, would be very "Hoax" significant IMO. :)
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jermjackson5
I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.
One of Jermaine's masterpieces.
He did not mention the architecture. He spoke of the architect.
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;) ;) ;) Good old Jermaine.
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http://twitter.com/marlon_jackson (http://twitter.com/marlon_jackson)
has started tweets again
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So Jermaine is saying he wasn't stuck in Africa?
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
have read erroneous reports of me being "stuck in Africa". Not true. I am traveling freely around Europe, and will be home soon
9 hours ago via web
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So Jermaine is saying he wasn't stuck in Africa?
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
have read erroneous reports of me being "stuck in Africa". Not true. I am traveling freely around Europe, and will be home soon
9 hours ago via web
Yes that is what he is saying.
Any of the European press reporting on this? He isnt in the UK, thats for sure.
Oh, Jemaine... :roll: .. i will bite my tongue on this one!
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I went on twitter now and had a HUGE explosion against Jermaine's defend of Karen Faye and guess what, I mentioned the hoax and Michael being alive and he BLOCKED me. What do you think now?
If he WASN'T bothered by what I said he woudn't have blocked me.
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Maybe he blocked you because you said you had a HUGE explosion at him. If someone was ranting at me like that I'd block them too. ;)
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Yes, I had a rant on him, that's right. That's because I can't stand KF, and I don't think I am the only one. She has been bashing people for 20 months now.
I just wanted to say this just because people think the family is supporting the ones who believe in the hoax. Not really. Because by the way, I haven't bashed Jermaine, but Karen. And I have told him that they say nothing to people who believe Michael is alive. So the reason why he blocked me deffinitely is not because I was disrespectful to him or the family.
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@ Anna
I have read your tweets.. well, I can understand why he had blocked you. He could have replied to you with HE IS NOT ALIVE AT ALL!
IMHO Karen is playing her role too. She is a true friend of Michael, and is playing well.
She is kind of TR for non believers. Have you thought about it?
A sort of pillar for the ppl that are crying and mourning for Michael.
As in theatre: there is a mix of protagonists that make the story believable.
both BAD characters and GOOD ones.
much LIGHT to you!
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jermjackson5
I am enjoying Paris very much, beautiful city and the architect is amazing.
One of Jermaine's masterpieces.
He did not mention the architecture. He spoke of the architect.
Yes, why did Jermaine mention the architect? The architect of the Louvre or the Louvre museum Abu Dhabi? Jean Nouvel. Jermaine & The Emirates?
I copy&pasted this part of the wiki page:
Abu DhabiMain article: Louvre Abu Dhabi
In March 2007, the Louvre announced that a Louvre museum would be completed by 2012 in Abu Dhabi. A 30-year agreement, signed by French Culture Minister Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres and Sheik Sultan bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan, will establish the museum in downtown Abu Dhabi in exchange for €832,000,000 (US$1.3 billion). The Louvre Abu Dhabi, designed by the French architect Jean Nouvel and the engineering firm of Buro Happold, will occupy 24,000 square metres (260,000 sq ft) and will be covered by a roof shaped like a flying saucer. France agreed to rotate between 200 and 300 artworks during a 10-year period; to provide management expertise; and to provide four temporary exhibitions a year for 15 years. The art will come from multiple museums, including the Louvre, the Georges Pompidou Centre, the Musée d'Orsay, Versailles, the Musée Guimet, the Musée Rodin, and the Musée du quai Branly.[39]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_du_Louvre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_du_Louvre)
Could be interesting. Next week Friday I'll visit the Louvre, may be I'll find out something interesting 8-)
Btw does anyone know about the Arno Bani photo collection of MJ? My hotel isn't far from the Pierre Berge Auction House, but the auction of the MJ photo collection was only last December. Is there perhaps a exposition in Paris?
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Jermaine's tweet
"......beyond the day of justice, we shall all reach a true and final understanding of everything"
What he meant by this final understanding? Hopefully it's not about the truth that actually Michael has dead and need our understanding why they didn't stop us from hoaxing now. I hope what he meant is the world to understand the truth that Michael is doing this hoax for something good. I don't know, I have a funny feeling about this, that this is to us not to the world. Please help me?
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Jermaine's tweet
"......beyond the day of justice, we shall all reach a true and final understanding of everything"
What he meant by this final understanding? Hopefully it's not about the truth that actually Michael has dead and need our understanding why they didn't stop us from hoaxing now. I hope what he meant is the world to understand the truth that Michael is doing this hoax for something good. I don't know, I have a funny feeling about this, that this is to us not to the world. Please help me?
I don't think you can find the whole truth in this world. But maybe what we need to move on. By beyond I think he means another lifetime. No suffering, poverty, diseases, etc.. But only LOVE!
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We really need to copy Jermaines tweets as he tweets them for members here who cannot be online all the time (like me! :D )
He has deleted some tweets. I know Im not going blind.
There was a tweet to @sosodeaf stating that he hadnt DMd her... then i look a minute later and he has deleted it.
So.. please... if people see the Jacksons tweeting, can they copy and paste them onto this thread? xx
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Yes, I had a rant on him, that's right. That's because I can't stand KF, and I don't think I am the only one. She has been bashing people for 20 months now.
I just wanted to say this just because people think the family is supporting the ones who believe in the hoax. Not really. Because by the way, I haven't bashed Jermaine, but Karen. And I have told him that they say nothing to people who believe Michael is alive. So the reason why he blocked me deffinitely is not because I was disrespectful to him or the family.
He deleted the tweet he wrote to Souza and now he blocked a believer. Hmmm it seems like Jermaine has a problem with the believers. He should have thought before he made all those slip-ups :lol:
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I still have a nagging feeling that he had a sex change. I don't know why but it just never stops playing over and over I think about it.
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OMG...that wicked thought crossed my mind before too....I feel so ashamed:(
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I love love love Michael with all of my heart and soul but my gay-dar has been off the charts with him for years. He was never happy in his own skin *and I don't mean the Vitiligo part*, but you could just tell it was like he was uncomfortable as hell and it's like nobody wants to consider this. This topic is avoided like the plague. Yes it would hurt like hell. I have adored him all these years as a sexy as heck male machine on stage and a giving adorable romantic male off stage, but a little bird in my head just keeps nagging at me. This may be the only thing he hid all these years. I would always love him no matter what though.
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I still have a nagging feeling that he had a sex change. I don't know why but it just never stops playing over and over I think about it.
Oh Come on guys! are you for real? This is insane. What else will you guys come out with. Based on what did you come to that conclusion? Since when Michael is gay. Michael was very happy about himself, he started to be miserable when they charged him of molestation. He did not know where he belonged to. What was his purpose in life. Please do not let this come out. He can disguise himself as a woman, but not have a sex operation. What are we going to call him Michaelina? Like the frozen food. This is purely ridiculous. Please I know that is your opinion, and it is ok to voice your opinion, but MICHAEL IS A PURE HOT MUCHACHO MAN.. HE IS HOT HOT HOT. MUY CALIENTE. ( This is spanish by the way)
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I still have a nagging feeling that he had a sex change. I don't know why but it just never stops playing over and over I think about it.
Oh Come on guys! are you for real? This is insane. What else will you guys come out with. Based on what did you come to that conclusion? Since when Michael is gay. Michael was very happy about himself, he started to be miserable when they charged him of molestation. He did not know where he belonged to. What was his purpose in life. Please do not let this come out. He can disguise himself as a woman, but not have a sex operation. What are we going to call him Michaelina? Like the frozen food. This is purely ridiculous. Please I know that is your opinion, and it is ok to voice your opinion, but MICHAEL IS A PURE HOT MUCHACHO MAN.. HE IS HOT HOT HOT. MUY CALIENTE. ( This is spanish by the way)
Agree with you all4loveandbelieve. We shouldn't be surprised to see other people defame him with being gay. His fans already think he could have changed his sex. This is out of the limits guys. Seriously? We all know that he is a womanizer. He always loved women. Why would he suddenly decide to become a woman? I hope he doesn't read the forum, especially this kind of insulting posts.
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Is this for real? Jermaine having a sex change and MJ is gay? Are we becoming a tabloid?
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We don't believe it!!! It's just what a perfect lifelong disguise :)))) Really, didn't the net run wild thinking he was the blond lady?? Honestly, I think we all need some genuine clues to tide us all over and get some fresh info :)
Michael is dripping sexuality...beautiful and hot. I think he was just a good christian and a gentleman :) and kept out of the paps view with his women.
Please don't start something on this...it's not serious. Maybe he'd laugh and think, what a great disguise :)
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Is this for real? Jermaine having a sex change and MJ is gay? Are we becoming a tabloid?
:lol: Souza you brought a new dimension to the issue :lol: God bless you girl, you made me laugh so hard :lol: Jermaine having a sex change :lol: Can you imagine him? :lol:
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Is this for real? Jermaine having a sex change and MJ is gay? Are we becoming a tabloid?
:lol: Souza you brought a new dimension to the issue :lol: God bless you girl, you made me laugh so hard :lol: Jermaine having a sex change :lol: Can you imagine him? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I am rolling here, laughing so hard that I am crying at the same time.
God bless.
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We don't believe it!!! It's just what a perfect lifelong disguise :)))) Really, didn't the net run wild thinking he was the blond lady?? Honestly, I think we all need some genuine clues to tide us all over and get some fresh info :)
Michael is dripping sexuality...beautiful and hot. I think he was just a good christian and a gentleman :) and kept out of the paps view with his women.
Please don't start something on this...it's not serious. Maybe he'd laugh and think, what a great disguise :)
Not starting something. ;) And btw I never thought that he was the blonde lady. But I thought he was the old man disguised at the memorial, not at the funeral. Just my opinion of course. It would make his life turn into a hell if he decided to have a sex change just for the disguise. He can use several disguises, he doesn't need to have a sex change.
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We don't believe it!!! It's just what a perfect lifelong disguise :)))) Really, didn't the net run wild thinking he was the blond lady?? Honestly, I think we all need some genuine clues to tide us all over and get some fresh info :)
Michael is dripping sexuality...beautiful and hot. I think he was just a good christian and a gentleman :) and kept out of the paps view with his women.
Please don't start something on this...it's not serious. Maybe he'd laugh and think, what a great disguise :)
Not starting something. ;) And btw I never thought that he was the blonde lady. But I thought he was the old man disguised at the memorial, not at the funeral. Just my opinion of course. It would make his life turn into a hell if he decided to have a sex change just for the disguise. He can use several disguises, he doesn't need to have a sex change.
Purelove either way MICHAEL IS NOT GAY HE IS NOT A WOMAN HE IS ALL MAN....
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You are so right. Something like that he could never come back, and we know the clues are because he is coming back. I never believed the blond lady either, and leaned toward the old guy too. :)
I'd rather be silly and joking than arguing like has been for the past two weeks don't you think :)))
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You are so right. Something like that he could never come back, and we know the clues are because he is coming back. I never believed the blond lady either, and leaned toward the old guy too. :)
I'd rather be silly and joking than arguing like has been for the past two weeks don't you think :)))
yes, we need to laugh, but not under Michael's expense. To spread these types of rumours that is ludacris. Laughter is a good therapy..
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We don't believe it!!! It's just what a perfect lifelong disguise :)))) Really, didn't the net run wild thinking he was the blond lady?? Honestly, I think we all need some genuine clues to tide us all over and get some fresh info :)
Michael is dripping sexuality...beautiful and hot. I think he was just a good christian and a gentleman :) and kept out of the paps view with his women.
Please don't start something on this...it's not serious. Maybe he'd laugh and think, what a great disguise :)
Well, I still will always believe that Michael disguised as that blond lady at the funeral, but I don't think that makes him "gay" for disguising as a woman. It was a clever disguise! Most people automatically dismiss that as not being him, just because it's displayed as a woman. Maybe that would be the reason he chose that disguise, then! :?
Anyways, I strongly disagree with the whole "gay" thing, and ESPECIALLY with the sex change, now where did THAT load of bullshit come from? :shock: :shock:
I think we all know if he had a sex change, then those gold pants would not have been *cough* 'stretched' so much in a certain place.. :P :oops: :lol:
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I think we all know if he had a sex change, then those gold pants would not have been *cough* 'stretched' so much in a certain place.. :P :oops: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: He is Michael Fu**ing Jackson everyone. Get your head right or we will all go to the MikeDonalds together to have a big Mikeburger :lol:
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I think we all know if he had a sex change, then those gold pants would not have been *cough* 'stretched' so much in a certain place.. :P :oops: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: He is Michael Fu**ing Jackson everyone. Get your head right or we will all go to the MikeDonalds together to have a big Mikeburger :lol:
I love the BIG MIKEBURGER.. YUMMYYYYY!!!
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This is exactly why SD left I think. We cannot have opinions here without being ridiculed and laughed at!!! And NOBODY said ANYTHING about JERMAINE having a sex change. We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
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This is exactly why SD left I think. We cannot have opinions here without being ridiculed and laughed at!!! And NOBODY said ANYTHING about JERMAINE having a sex change. We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters.
Good point and LOL@Batman character's.
My only thoughts on this are....
Michael did say he channeled Liberace and that
he was his Guardian Angel.
annnnnnnnnnnnnd
Anything is possible....
look at the latest fruit of the month mega model....
"he" is having a sex change operation.
If this turned out to be the true....well...
Nothing surprises me....
People should live and let live.
Know what I mean?
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This is exactly why SD left I think. We cannot have opinions here without being ridiculed and laughed at!!! And NOBODY said ANYTHING about JERMAINE having a sex change. We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
Nefari we are not making fun of you. These are our opinions also. Oh my dear I know Michael is a womanizer .. Believe me, I am Michael's age. well he is 2 yrs older thanI, but I grew up with his music and read everything about him. Nefari i am sorry if you think I made fun of you, it was not my intent. Just the thought of Michael changing sex that is all.. blessings.
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This is exactly why SD left I think. We cannot have opinions here without being ridiculed and laughed at!!! And NOBODY said ANYTHING about JERMAINE having a sex change. We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
Nefari, by the way I like Batman... ;)
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This is exactly why SD left I think. We cannot have opinions here without being ridiculed and laughed at!!! And NOBODY said ANYTHING about JERMAINE having a sex change. We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
First off SD didn't leave, she was banned. Second of all nobody ridiculed your opinion. We wrote our own opinions too. And we were laughing at our posts and Souza's post about Jermaine having a sex change. So no need to be offensive when people disagree with you. Well I DO know that he is a womanizer. Have you ever seen him dating a man? We all saw him dating women. Ohh God I can not even believe we're discussing about this issue. And nobody was arguing here since you made your post. Anyways, I do not even want to talk about this anymore since it is far fetched and I do know that it would hurt Michael's feelings if he read it.
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I was reading this on a blog. So probably I need to post it for everyone to make their minds up. This was written by a close friend of Michael.
Anybody who genuinely knows Michael (which is none of you), knows that
Michael is straight - almost to a fault of himself, considering that he
doesn't look like the most masculine of brothas. You're so quick to
believe Scott, which is hysterical because if you knew their history,
you'd know how weirded out Michael was by Scott's advances. Michael's not
overtly homophobic, but he is old school and isn't completely
comfortable with it. However, given the nature of his profession, he has tried
his best to be accepting and because he tries to be a good Christian, he
does not judge, he leaves that to God. He still gets incredibly
uncomfortable by advances by anything remotely male....which brings us to
Scott. Scott made a pass at Michael. Michael ignored it, initially. The
second time, Michael told him to back the #### off (in more polite
language, of course...Michael was still quite young and sweet and innocent
back in the '80s, if a dude tried something similar NOW, he might get
punched in the face). They haven't spoken since then. The closest he ever
got to Michael after about '84 was that his boyfriend was friends with
Priscilla Presley's makeup artist. The two haven't spoken since Scott
tried to get all up on Mikey.
One may ask themselves, if his motive for coming forward now was out of
some sort of moral obligation and a desire to crush MJ's "strategy" of
declaring himself heterosexual, why didn't he come forward in 1993?
Maids, cooks, ex-guards, everybody and their momma was coming forward with
"claims," why not then? Or, if the motivation behind this is genuine
concern for the welfare of children and not money, why not go to the
police with the things you've seen (i.e. Scott claiming to have seen child
porn on Michael's nightstand)?
Simple, none of it happened and Scott was still livin' the life with
all of Liberace's dough. Poverty brings forth all sorts of "memories."
Isn't it convenient that just as soon as his cash stash is running dry,
he tells the world he had sex with Michael Jackson?
Please.
Let me break this down for you people and pay attention because I don't
like doing it more than once. Michael Jackson is thoroughly
heterosexual. He does not like men. He does not like boys. He likes women over the
age of 18. Shiiiiit, even before he was 18, he liked women well over
the age of 18. It's no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was
his first. The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she @#%$
him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back
then, so he chose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3
years, before becoming involved with a pretty, blond employee of his,
an actress from a popular '80s/early '90s sitcom, a singer that nobody
cares about anymore but was the ish back in the day, some
groupie/secretary, June Chandler (the mother of punk @#$%$ Jordan who got jealous
of mommy's relationship with Michael) and, of course, Lisa Marie. Lisa
Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just
sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung. Lisa Marie,
however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed
on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little
@#$%$ didn't want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil
black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of
other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he
can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie,
which, (if I didn't love and adore his children and think think they
saved his life) I would say was probably one of the biggest mistakes of his
life. He was never faithful to Debbie after they married, never even
wanted to marry her but Mike doesn't like to break his mother's heart. He
and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren't "together," they
were just @#%$), until he met his third child's mother, fell very much
in love with her, but he is his father's son, so he wasn't entirely
faithful to her, which is why they split up shortly after she found out
she was pregnant. From that time, up until right before these new
bullish allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex.
He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again
after they part ways now that he has his children. I doubt he has time for
anybody other than his children and his lawyers now.
There, you have it. Take it or leave it, but it's the truth. Mike would
hate me for putting his business out here like this, but at least it's
accurate, unlike all of the other trash going around now. He ain't my
boss anymore, so he's just going to have to put up with it.
Summary: Scott is full of ish, Michael isn't gay and he sho' as h.ell
ain't a pedophile.
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This is exactly why SD left I think. We cannot have opinions here without being ridiculed and laughed at!!! And NOBODY said ANYTHING about JERMAINE having a sex change. We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
Why did you bring up SD? SD left because she was talking shit behind Souza's back on .net and she got found out... and then called out on her behavior. She had no defense for her actions so she threw up a straw man of false outrage and diversion tactics and made a grand exit after which her account was deactivated. Grandiose display of blown out of proportion snowballed embarrassment followed by predictable lashing out behavior.
Not that it matters. You brought that up to try and rally support against Souza and therefor against this board because someone laughed at your baseless sex change theory. That's silly and childish and lame.
You can't seriously expect to throw out these kind of off the wall theories with no basis nor supportive information, ie: nothing to back it up, and then act surprised when people laugh at them. And if you do expect that sort of smile n nod treatment then you need to go find a kids only hoax board, because most of this crowd is way past that sort of wild, fantastical, empty "what-if" style of hoaxing. So sure, they're gonna snicker at ya. Grow a thicker skin. It's not the world's fault that you are so sensitive.
Your theory does not define you. You're theory is wacky. I'm sure you're a perfectly sane person.
Trust me, I have put up some wild fantastical "what-if" shit. But I have always backed it up. And they still laugh at me sometimes. Whatever. I'm not here to win a popularity contest. (good thing)
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Just a simple question: why are we even discussing Mike's sex life in the Jermaine Twitter thread? Or even at all? Is it important for the hoax or even our business? I don't care what he does when his clothes are off or with who, it's none of my business and not important for the hoax.
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Ok I rest my case about this after this final comment, but I have my own opinions about it and they have not changed. BUT I also do not like any insinuating that I do not know anything about Michael. I am 46 years old soon to be 47 and have followed him since I was in first grade singing in lunch lines Rockin Robin, getting in trouble for the likes of it, collecting Tiger Beat photos of him when I was in grade school. Betting money on it I would say NO he's not gay. I don't want him to be gay God forbid. But it's like a person is bowing to satan if it's even mentioned. I find that very very strange and now more than ever I am certain there are people involved in this entire mystery paid to keep us all fighting and no one can convince me otherwise. I like Batman too but I do not like characters who flip coins.
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Ok I rest my case about this after this final comment, but I have my own opinions about it and they have not changed. BUT I also do not like any insinuating that I do not know anything about Michael. I am 46 years old soon to be 47 and have followed him since I was in first grade singing in lunch lines Rockin Robin, getting in trouble for the likes of it, collecting Tiger Beat photos of him when I was in grade school. Betting money on it I would say NO he's not gay. I don't want him to be gay God forbid. But it's like a person is bowing to satan if it's even mentioned. I find that very very strange and now more than ever I am certain there are people involved in this entire mystery paid to keep us all fighting and no one can convince me otherwise. I like Batman too but I do not like characters who flip coins.
I have respect especially for the ones who are older than I am and I respect you too Nefari. But what you wrote was far fetched and it would hurt Michael if he read it, don't you think so? I never ridiculed your opinion. I wrote mine. Actually you insulted us by telling that we are Batman characters who flip coins. Everyone stated their opinion about your theory. So why need to bash them by calling them names? I'm not arguing here but to me what you wrote was so wrong. The sex change theory plus name calling.
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Nefari, I was quite clear. But again:
Your theory does not define you. You're theory is wacky. I'm sure you're a perfectly sane person.
You can't seriously expect to throw out these kind of off the wall theories with no basis nor supportive information, ie: nothing to back it up, and then act surprised when people laugh at them.
It's not necessarily your theory that is wacky, it's the fact that you provided no supporting information to back it up that makes it wacky.
And again:
Trust me, I have put up some wild fantastical "what-if" shit. But I have always backed it up.
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It's not necessarily your theory that is wacky, it's the fact that you provided no supporting information to back it up that makes it wacky.
For GOD's sakes...Nef SAID it was a THEORY and she is entitled to her own opinion.
End of story
Just
Like everyone else is.
What is the matter with everyone here tonight anyway?
I come here to read the latest and see a bunch of bickering and bullshit.
Did all of you get together in chat and decide to have an a$$hole convention or pass around freaking Nasty Pills or something?
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Well if you did...I am passing around some better ones...I suggest everybody
take one.
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Don't MAKE me have to whip out my paddle
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OR one of my badly typed Rants.
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JUST CHILL.
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Nefari was spazzing out. I was telling her to chill. Is someone else gonna jump in and tell you to chill now Run?
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It's ok I see how it is. Heads or Tails, who is on the sh*t list tonight.
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Every post after this one is about the hoax and Jermaine's tweets.
ENOUGH WITH THE FIGHTING, BACK TO THE HOAX PLEASE!
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IMHO Karen is playing her role too. She is a true friend of Michael, and is playing well.
She is kind of TR for non believers. Have you thought about it?
A sort of pillar for the ppl that are crying and mourning for Michael.
As in theatre: there is a mix of protagonists that make the story believable.
both BAD characters and GOOD ones.
I agree with you ASCENSION. I've never commented anything about Karen Faye before because there seems to be a lot of animosity towards her but if I'm honest, I think she's playing her role the way she's supposed to. And you're right, it does make the story more believable to have a mix of characters - ones people will like and and ones people will dislike. She's been in MJ's life for a very long time, he would not have kept her around that long if she was not loyal or trustful. She's playing her part and doing a pretty good job of it.
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By the way, I am not the only one who was blokcked by Jermaine. If he was with us (the believers) then why would he block us? Because it seems he's bothered with it.
here some twitts from other people
1958_ForeverMJ Oh wow... @jermjackson5 also blocked me! @sosodeaf hmmm....
MissChiviouss I am beyond insulted that a deadbeat like @jermjackson5 blocked me. Oh well....
Why would he block especially believers for talking about Michael being alive and being against Karen? The family supports the hoax my ass. I've seen it with my eyes.
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And another one
Nawww Erms @jermjackson5 blocked me. Im devo'd! But he was teaching me so much!
21 minutes ago via Power Twitter
So far, all of the blocked people are believers.
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By the way, I am not the only one who was blokcked by Jermaine. If he was with us (the believers) then why would he block us? Because it seems he's bothered with it.
here some twitts from other people
1958_ForeverMJ Oh wow... @jermjackson5 also blocked me! @sosodeaf hmmm....
MissChiviouss I am beyond insulted that a deadbeat like @jermjackson5 blocked me. Oh well....
Why would he block especially believers for talking about Michael being alive and being against Karen? The family supports the hoax my ass. I've seen it with my eyes.
I checked both of 1958_ForeverMJ and MissChiviouss accounts and they are NOT believers. But they do not like Karen Fake and wrote things about her to Jermaine. So it seems like Jermaine is trying to protect Karen Fake. I do not know why as I do not believe she knows anything about the hoax.
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If he protects karen, who said about him this:
http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52 (http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52)
then he is WITH her. You know the hate she feels towards us. If he can defend a woman that was NEVER close to Michael-when I say close I don't mean just physically, you are close to someone when you are close to his heart- but who was also talking BAD about his own mother calling her a monster (KF quote on twitter: "Joe Jackson is an angel compared to Katherine"), then blaming Jermaine's own kids because Michael's kids supposedly are out of control, then addressing to Randy as if he was after money (Quote KF: "Follow the money RJ....follow the money")
Then he supports this woman and also BLOCKS the ones who don't. And there are many that twitted to Jermaine about the hoax and Michael being alive, including me.
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If he protects karen, who said about him this:
http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52 (http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52)
then he is WITH her. You know the hate she feels towards us. If he can defend a woman that was NEVER close to Michael-when I say close I don't mean just physically, you are close to someone when you are close to his heart- but who was also talking BAD about his own mother calling her a monster (KF quote on twitter: "Joe Jackson is an angel compared to Katherine"), then blaming Jermaine's own kids because Michael's kids supposedly are out of control, then addressing to Randy as if he was after money (Quote KF: "Follow the money RJ....follow the money")
Then he supports this woman and also BLOCKS the ones who don't. And there are many that twitted to Jermaine about the hoax and Michael being alive, including me.
I know, it's weird. He's blocking everyone who writes something bad about that Karen Fake person. What changed suddenly that Karen became so precious to Jermaine? I do not know what to make of it really. Can it be because Michael saw the fans writing terrible things about her and he didn't like it and told Jermaine to protect her? I don't know really but I didn't like it.
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By the way, I am not the only one who was blokcked by Jermaine. If he was with us (the believers) then why would he block us? Because it seems he's bothered with it.
here some twitts from other people
1958_ForeverMJ Oh wow... @jermjackson5 also blocked me! @sosodeaf hmmm....
MissChiviouss I am beyond insulted that a deadbeat like @jermjackson5 blocked me. Oh well....
Why would he block especially believers for talking about Michael being alive and being against Karen? The family supports the hoax my ass. I've seen it with my eyes.
Because you spread HATE, not because you believe. Jermaine is right to block everyone who is ranting and judging.
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right, I am a beLIEver, but optimistic, have also written a couple of MJALIVE tweets to all family but never was blocked.
Let’s spread the LOVE not the HATE on twitter. 8-)
do research @jermjackson5 and you can read what the ppl write to him!
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Is this for real? Jermaine having a sex change and MJ is gay? Are we becoming a tabloid?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I am in tears here :lol: :lol:
Jermaine would make a non very sexy woman :lol: omg I am cracking up here :lol: my imagination has no limits :lol:
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We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
I agree with you.
It also passed my mind in the beginning that MJ was disguised as woman. It would be a good disguise.
And this quote of yours "what happened to leave nothing unexplored" is also right.
This forum has a lot of theories and the MJ=woman in disguise makes more sense to me than many of the ones posted.
So I add myself to the "MJ can be disguised as a woman" group ;)
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If he protects karen, who said about him this:
http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52 (http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52)
then he is WITH her. You know the hate she feels towards us. If he can defend a woman that was NEVER close to Michael-when I say close I don't mean just physically, you are close to someone when you are close to his heart- but who was also talking BAD about his own mother calling her a monster (KF quote on twitter: "Joe Jackson is an angel compared to Katherine"), then blaming Jermaine's own kids because Michael's kids supposedly are out of control, then addressing to Randy as if he was after money (Quote KF: "Follow the money RJ....follow the money")
Then he supports this woman and also BLOCKS the ones who don't. And there are many that twitted to Jermaine about the hoax and Michael being alive, including me.
I don't trust karen Faye. Sorry she is not trusworthy. katherine loves Michael with all her heart. Michael showed how much he loved his mother. Where does she come out saying stupid things like that. Sorry but Jermaine is not too reliable either with all his slip ups..
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By the way, I am not the only one who was blokcked by Jermaine. If he was with us (the believers) then why would he block us? Because it seems he's bothered with it.
here some twitts from other people
1958_ForeverMJ Oh wow... @jermjackson5 also blocked me! @sosodeaf hmmm....
MissChiviouss I am beyond insulted that a deadbeat like @jermjackson5 blocked me. Oh well....
Why would he block especially believers for talking about Michael being alive and being against Karen? The family supports the hoax my ass. I've seen it with my eyes.
I am going to tell you why he is blocking us. He knows that his brother is alive, and he knows we will make him slip up again. He is worried he will spill the beans. How many time he slipped up? Michael left way way before to the airport. This is it, but it is not it, wait for the final curtain. How many more do you need? He is just afraid of slipping up again. This is all common sense. I am on twitter, I read his postings but I replied once, I have no clue if he blocked me or not? Twitter seems a little complexed for me I am getting old :lol:
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Yeah I too don't get twitter....I've been on it a long time and never ever once got one back :(
I too send to Jermaine...Tito...Jackie...did today and it apparently is not blocked. Don't say it is. Says following. So if I see anything good I'll post it...
Do they ever reply to tweets?? I try to be real cute with my remarks to get one, and never do...
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Now, im not defending Karen Faye.... but i am seeking the truth.
I have NEVER seen these tweets on this link: http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52 (http://xltweet.com/show/?id=54525C5D52)
I find it interesting they are not screenshots. Anyone could write that and make it up, that Karen tweeted these tweets. Without screenshots, i do not believe this was said.
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a true friend: someone who was there for him and HIS interests at heart. Karen went everywhere. She was trusted. She was loved.
We shid take a breath and await facts before we judge. Karen faye was a true friend to Michael. He knew it. We know it. Please understand this.
It upsets me--it wid upset Michael--seeing @wingheart vilified by some based on selective, out of context quote from a police report.
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I guess what we need to do to get some answers is to get the bee with honey not with vinegar. We spread love and so forth just like I did this morning, He did not block me. Do not talk about the hoax, get close to him in a kind way, and than you try to find out discreatly about Michael. I am trying this and see where it will bring me. Blessings.
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We are talking totally about Michael here. And no not one of you KNOWS that Michael was a womanizer etc....blah blah. No I do not KNOW Michael had a sex change but see what I mean about the topic. It cannot even be brought up without an argument and fussing. It cannot even be discussed without ridicule. Which is way wrong. I'm f*cking tired of being ridiculed here. I'm no better or worse than any one of you at investigating and what happened to leave nothing unexplored. What a bunch of Batman characters. :roll:
I agree with you.
It also passed my mind in the beginning that MJ was disguised as woman. It would be a good disguise.
And this quote of yours "what happened to leave nothing unexplored" is also right.
This forum has a lot of theories and the MJ=woman in disguise makes more sense to me than many of the ones posted.
So I add myself to the "MJ can be disguised as a woman" group ;)
Not going back to that discussion but I think you didn't read the first post of Nefari. She wasn't talking about a woman disguise, she was talking about a sex change! I think you missed the point Gema.
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By the way, I am not the only one who was blokcked by Jermaine. If he was with us (the believers) then why would he block us? Because it seems he's bothered with it.
here some twitts from other people
1958_ForeverMJ Oh wow... @jermjackson5 also blocked me! @sosodeaf hmmm....
MissChiviouss I am beyond insulted that a deadbeat like @jermjackson5 blocked me. Oh well....
Why would he block especially believers for talking about Michael being alive and being against Karen? The family supports the hoax my ass. I've seen it with my eyes.
Because you spread HATE, not because you believe. Jermaine is right to block everyone who is ranting and judging.
yes, believer or non-believer Jermaine started to block everyone who writes hateful things about Karen Fake. I do not understand the reason why he suddenly started to protect that woman. What made her precious all of a sudden? That's interesting.
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I am not fond of Karen either. In fact, I unfollowed her months ago because she annoyed the shit out of me. But it is not up to me to jusge her. She might be playing a role. Imagine how many non-believers follow her and trust her. The moment that Karen will turn around being a believer, people will be shocked. Not saying she IS in the hoax, because she might as well not know a thing, but as long as we don't know, it is not up to us to judge her. Jermaine is totally right blocking anyone who is judgemental.
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I am not fond of Karen either. In fact, I unfollowed her months ago because she annoyed the shit out of me. But it is not up to me to jusge her. She might be playing a role. Imagine how many non-believers follow her and trust her. The moment that Karen will turn around being a believer, people will be shocked. Not saying she IS in the hoax, because she might as well not know a thing, but as long as we don't know, it is not up to us to judge her. Jermaine is totally right blocking anyone who is judgemental.
Why did Jermaine send you a twitter message?
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I am not fond of Karen either. In fact, I unfollowed her months ago because she annoyed the shit out of me. But it is not up to me to jusge her. She might be playing a role. Imagine how many non-believers follow her and trust her. The moment that Karen will turn around being a believer, people will be shocked. Not saying she IS in the hoax, because she might as well not know a thing, but as long as we don't know, it is not up to us to judge her. Jermaine is totally right blocking anyone who is judgemental.
Why did Jermaine send you a twitter message?
I sent him one and apparently that was something from their childhood so he replied to it. No clue why he deleted the tweet.
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I am not fond of Karen either. In fact, I unfollowed her months ago because she annoyed the shit out of me. But it is not up to me to jusge her. She might be playing a role. Imagine how many non-believers follow her and trust her. The moment that Karen will turn around being a believer, people will be shocked. Not saying she IS in the hoax, because she might as well not know a thing, but as long as we don't know, it is not up to us to judge her. Jermaine is totally right blocking anyone who is judgemental.
Why did Jermaine send you a twitter message?
I sent him one and apparently that was something from their childhood so he replied to it. No clue why he deleted the tweet.
That was odd.
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I think KF does rub alot of people the wrong way and if I was such a close friend of Michael's I would be keeping my mouth shut (unless of course it is in the script ;). You take a look at Miko or others that are close to Mike, you don't see them going off on Michael's fans the way Karen has and does. No wonder people are so judgemental of her. :?
Not sure why Jermaine is defending her so much. Sure she was a friend of MJ's but I think she can hold her own with Jermaine needing to step in??
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What I don´t get is that "those friends" tell private conversations in twitter making them public for every one to read. Would not be the most appropiate way to deal with serious matters to use a phone, sms, email?
We are all different and deal individually with certain issues but having Mj as a friend should be something kept private, as the Cascios did for many years i.e
I do not see Karen as Jermaine wants us to see her, not after reading her comments to fans, not after reading how she refers to her followers and not after finding out who she supports. Her account has too much hate written in itand that says a lot about her as a person. So, yes, I judge her under those terms....she made it public for all of us to see and read.
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What purelove was saying makes sense. How come all of a sudden Jermaine has a change of heart towards Karen Faye? Well change of heart, meaning he is defending her in some way. I never heard him talking about her before. I guess we have some more investgations to do with Jermaine. I wrote to him, kind words, love words, we shall see what he will reply or if he will just toss me aside :lol:
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Did all of you get together in chat and decide to have an a$$hole convention or pass around freaking Nasty Pills or something?
:lol: OMG!! That's hilarious!! I try to stay far away from a$$hole conventions!
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Only reason it was an a-hole convention was because we were trying to discuss Jermaine's cryptic and odd posts, exploring ANY possible thing that could be going on with Michael but there are some things here that are obviously forbidden to talk about. One is the kids having doubles and the other is my totally theory only posts that were bitched about by people who can't even handle discussing it. Gee if I didn't know better I would say some real homophobic people around here. If you do not want something discussed on this forum then make a set of rules about what is FORBIDDEN to discuss. That would be the thing to do in this case and post it HUGE where we all can see it.
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Did all of you get together in chat and decide to have an a$$hole convention or pass around freaking Nasty Pills or something?
:lol: OMG!! That's hilarious!! I try to stay far away from a$$hole conventions!
:lol: me too. If I want to hear from an a$$hole..I'll fart
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aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa!
Okay that was an attempt to deflate the angry humanoids and
inject some humor....
one of my none rant rants.
[at least two of you' got it.....I think]
OR
should I be runnnnnnnnnnnnning::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: for my life?
(http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/01f1601b648bcccbb67417ad0f1f10daa0fbfd2d.gif)
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Did all of you get together in chat and decide to have an a$$hole convention or pass around freaking Nasty Pills or something?
:lol: OMG!! That's hilarious!! I try to stay far away from a$$hole conventions!
:lol: me too. If I want to hear from an a$$hole..I'll fart
OMG!! I'm rolling here!! Too funny!!
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aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaa!
Okay that was an attempt to deflate the angry humanoids and
inject some humor....
one of my none rant rants.
[at least two of you' got it.....I think]
OR
should I be runnnnnnnnnnnnning::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: for my life?
(http://images.yuku.com/image/gif/01f1601b648bcccbb67417ad0f1f10daa0fbfd2d.gif)
No need to run ......I got it!! ;)
@nefari...I don't think you were part of the AHC...no worries....
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He just said this
@dllzz Michael actually bided his time & chose his moments with dignity -- as we will. We don't need reminding our brother has passed
about 1 hour ago via web in reply to dllzz
If you ask him and tell him about the hoax,he addresses the situation. He said we don't need reminding our brother has passed.. Probably that person asked him about him being alive. I just wanted to say that, and I am already feeling too bad, since too long, but I can only say that denying what is there as fact,the family can't lie forever, if they keep saying it, it really makes you wonder.. After 20 months, for me it can't go like "it's all a hoax" just because it's horrible to accept a murder..Because this is what I feel.
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He just said this
@dllzz Michael actually bided his time & chose his moments with dignity -- as we will. We don't need reminding our brother has passed
about 1 hour ago via web in reply to dllzz
If you ask him and tell him about the hoax,he addresses the situation. He said we don't need reminding our brother has passed.. Probably that person asked him about him being alive. I just wanted to say that, and I am already feeling too bad, since too long, but I can only say that denying what is there as fact,the family can't lie forever, if they keep saying it, it really makes you wonder.. After 20 months, for me it can't go like "it's all a hoax" just because it's horrible to accept a murder..Because this is what I feel.
Do you know what dllzz tweeted him? Her account is locked so cannot see.
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No, I don't know..
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Jermaine has also tweeted this:
jermjackson5
@dllzz we understand the fans' love, passion, high-feelings and the need for truth, so know we seek the same thing x #truth
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If anyone would ask Jermaine why is he not addressing the hoax and say "people, there's no hoax, please understand". I can't do it, he blocked me. If he will see people asking him to address us and if he will literarily, then at least we will have a fact about this once and for all. Because they probably don't address the hoax because they have other things to do, more important than a fan site. But if they receive many requests maybe they will bother to answer
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If anyone would ask Jermaine why is he not addressing the hoax and say "people, there's no hoax, please understand". I can't do it, he blocked me. If he will see people asking him to address us and if he will literarily, then at least we will have a fact about this once and for all. Because they probably don't address the hoax because they have other things to do, more important than a fan site. But if they receive many requests maybe they will bother to answer
Why annoy them with questions like that? We know it's a hoax. The family doesn't want to say it's not a hoax, that is why they never addressed it. It should also be logic to people that they won't go tweeting that it IS a hoax. So there is really no need in asking the question, it would only annoy them.
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If anyone would ask Jermaine why is he not addressing the hoax and say "people, there's no hoax, please understand". I can't do it, he blocked me. If he will see people asking him to address us and if he will literarily, then at least we will have a fact about this once and for all. Because they probably don't address the hoax because they have other things to do, more important than a fan site. But if they receive many requests maybe they will bother to answer
Why annoy them with questions like that? We know it's a hoax. The family doesn't want to say it's not a hoax, that is why they never addressed it. It should also be logic to people that they won't go tweeting that it IS a hoax. So there is really no need in asking the question, it would only annoy them.
I agree with Souza. I already stated that we should just be nice to them reply what they write, DO NOT TALK about Michael's hoax, If that was your brother would you rat him out? I don't think so. Jermaine already slipped up a couple times. If we play smart we can befriend them and than we may probably find out some stuff. If we are too annoying they will block us all.
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_Anna_ wrote:
If anyone would ask Jermaine why is he not addressing the hoax and say "people, there's no hoax, please understand". I can't do it, he blocked me. If he will see people asking him to address us and if he will literarily, then at least we will have a fact about this once and for all. Because they probably don't address the hoax because they have other things to do, more important than a fan site. But if they receive many requests maybe they will bother to answer
I don't think it is smart to ask Jermaine about the hoax.He can't answer yes so what do you expect him to say?
Of course he has to say MJ has passed but he knows we know better. :D
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He just said this
@dllzz Michael actually bided his time & chose his moments with dignity -- as we will. We don't need reminding our brother has passed
about 1 hour ago via web in reply to dllzz
The person who sent him the tweet and who he wrote this answer to is NOT a believer again Anna. She is in the Justice4MJ group. No need to be negative in everything you see and panic. And we shouldn't bother them asking about the hoax. They can not come up and say "yes this is a hoax", can they? We shouldn't expect them to say anything about the hoax as they did give many clues with their "slip-ups" already. We shouldn't push them to talk otherwise we can get very negative replies like he is gone for real.
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He just said this
@dllzz Michael actually bided his time & chose his moments with dignity -- as we will. We don't need reminding our brother has passed
about 1 hour ago via web in reply to dllzz
The person who sent him the tweet and who he wrote this answer to is NOT a believer again Anna. She is in the Justice4MJ group. No need to be negative in everything you see and panic. And we shouldn't bother them asking about the hoax. They can not come up and say "yes this is a hoax", can they? We shouldn't expect them to say anything about the hoax as they did give many clues with their "slip-ups" already. We shouldn't push them to talk otherwise we can get very negative replies like he is gone for real.
Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
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Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
I do not follow that person as I do not follow any non-believers but her description is this:
Michael you gave us your all,you owe us nothing.The world owes you everything,we will speak out against lies+LIARS & fight 4 all encompassing justice! http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html (http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html)
That's the reason why I wrote that she is a non-believer. And btw a non-believer is forcing Jerm to tell that this is not a hoax. If he wanted to address about the hoax he would have written to this person who keeps on asking him to tell that this is not a hoax. Here are the tweets:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 then why are so many hoax forums on the web?WHY don't you act like a man and say it?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you make a public statement about this false death hoax?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you have a piece of heart and stop the pain of these people who in vain hope Michael is alive?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 You simply cannot deny the fact that you all know about the death hoax forums
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply ignore all those people and just BECAUSE of THIS they keep believing he is alive,for almost 2 years!!!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 when there's a huge and grave problem among his fans.They believe he is ALIVE,you know what that implies?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it implies SUFFERING and it implies 20 months of daily searching in finding cluse to keep up their hope
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it means 20 months of spending their time on forums,talking and analysing hoping like IDIOTS he might be alive
_William62_: @jermjackson5 and YOU? YOU simply do not care about it. You simply do not care
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The person is pressuring Jerm. I wonder if he is going to write something to him.
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply stay and enjoy it,perhaps. Why don't you make a public statement?why don't you say:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 "People, there's no death hoax! There's nothing like that,everything was invented by YOU". SAY it!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 Do you have the courage to say it? Do you??? Do you!!?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 Do you have the heart to tell the truth to these people who believe Michael is alive and will come back?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 do you think,1 second of your life about the struggle these ppl are passing through since almost 2 years?in LIE
_William62_: @jermjackson5 do you think of this, jermaine?Did you Jackson FAMILY ever think of this?
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Ok, thankyou PureLove. Appreciated. x
If anyone has access to dllzz account and can post what she asked Jermaine, that would be bosting. xx
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Ok, thankyou PureLove. Appreciated. x
If anyone has access to dllzz account and can post what she asked Jermaine, that would be bosting. xx
No problem hun. :) I realized that this william person made the tweets at the same time with dllzz 3 hours ago. I'm sure that Jermaine read his tweets too but he didn't reply back. So this is good news. ;)
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Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
I do not follow that person as I do not follow any non-believers but her description is this:
Michael you gave us your all,you owe us nothing.The world owes you everything,we will speak out against lies+LIARS & fight 4 all encompassing justice! http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html (http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html)
That's the reason why I wrote that she is a non-believer. And btw a non-believer is forcing Jerm to tell that this is not a hoax. If he wanted to address about the hoax he would have written to this person who keeps on asking him to tell that this is not a hoax. Here are the tweets:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 then why are so many hoax forums on the web?WHY don't you act like a man and say it?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you make a public statement about this false death hoax?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you have a piece of heart and stop the pain of these people who in vain hope Michael is alive?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 You simply cannot deny the fact that you all know about the death hoax forums
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply ignore all those people and just BECAUSE of THIS they keep believing he is alive,for almost 2 years!!!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 when there's a huge and grave problem among his fans.They believe he is ALIVE,you know what that implies?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it implies SUFFERING and it implies 20 months of daily searching in finding cluse to keep up their hope
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it means 20 months of spending their time on forums,talking and analysing hoping like IDIOTS he might be alive
_William62_: @jermjackson5 and YOU? YOU simply do not care about it. You simply do not care
I wonder if this person is not among us.. She or he knows exactly what we are writting. I guess she is forcing him to slip up again. Maybe she or he should say why did you say airport instead of hospital???
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He twitted this:
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@ @dllzz Michael actually bided his time & chose his moments with dignity -- as we will. We don't need reminding our brother has passed
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@dllzz we understand the fans' love, passion, high-feelings and the need for truth, so know we seek the same thing
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Well, that was clear as mudd. So, if the hoax isn't what is happening- why would Jermaine not just say so? I mean, how hard us it to say, there is no hoax, Michael is dead?
Hence, I still believe...
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Well, that was clear as mudd. So, if the hoax isn't what is happening- why would Jermaine not just say so? I mean, how hard us it to say, there is no hoax, Michael is dead?
Hence, I still believe...
look what he replied to this person: jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@ @dllzz one day, beyond the day of justice, we shall all reach a true and final understanding of everything
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Well, that was clear as mudd. So, if the hoax isn't what is happening- why would Jermaine not just say so? I mean, how hard us it to say, there is no hoax, Michael is dead?
Exactly. After getting all those tweets, if Michael was gone for real Jermaine would have definitely written that there is not a hoax and he is dead. Why wouldn't he write an answer back?
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Well, that was clear as mudd. So, if the hoax isn't what is happening- why would Jermaine not just say so? I mean, how hard us it to say, there is no hoax, Michael is dead?
Exactly. After getting all those tweets, if Michael was gone for real Jermaine would have definitely written that there is not a hoax and he is dead. Why wouldn't he write an answer back?
Suspense I guess. He wants to make us squerm...
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Well, that was clear as mudd. So, if the hoax isn't what is happening- why would Jermaine not just say so? I mean, how hard us it to say, there is no hoax, Michael is dead?
Exactly. After getting all those tweets, if Michael was gone for real Jermaine would have definitely written that there is not a hoax and he is dead. Why wouldn't he write an answer back?
Suspense I guess. He wants to make us squerm...
No, I think it is simply because this is a hoax and Michael is so very much alive. ;)
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Well, that was clear as mudd. So, if the hoax isn't what is happening- why would Jermaine not just say so? I mean, how hard us it to say, there is no hoax, Michael is dead?
Hence, I still believe...
look what he replied to this person: jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@ @dllzz one day, beyond the day of justice, we shall all reach a true and final understanding of everything
BEYOND THE DAY OF JUSTICE???? Well, THAT was interesting. Makes me think the "truth" will come out after the verdict.
I could not resist and tweeted the chick back since when it was cool to harass Michael's family for a point that was not made. :) I get evil that way.
I love how these people hate on everyone around them JUST to disprove the hoax.
And yes, the family could just step up and aks fans to stop with the hoax talk. If he is dead- there is notihng for them to gain by having people believing in a hoax. Well, I can only speak for myself, but my love for Michael would be the same, as would be my interest in him, his music, etc....
Jermain, once again, gives a great clue.
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I love Jermaine! I don't normally follow Twitter stuff, normally they're too cryptic and open to too many interpretations, but somehow I get what Jermaine says in his!
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Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
I do not follow that person as I do not follow any non-believers but her description is this:
Michael you gave us your all,you owe us nothing.The world owes you everything,we will speak out against lies+LIARS & fight 4 all encompassing justice! http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html (http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html)
That's the reason why I wrote that she is a non-believer. And btw a non-believer is forcing Jerm to tell that this is not a hoax. If he wanted to address about the hoax he would have written to this person who keeps on asking him to tell that this is not a hoax. Here are the tweets:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 then why are so many hoax forums on the web?WHY don't you act like a man and say it?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you make a public statement about this false death hoax?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you have a piece of heart and stop the pain of these people who in vain hope Michael is alive?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 You simply cannot deny the fact that you all know about the death hoax forums
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply ignore all those people and just BECAUSE of THIS they keep believing he is alive,for almost 2 years!!!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 when there's a huge and grave problem among his fans.They believe he is ALIVE,you know what that implies?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it implies SUFFERING and it implies 20 months of daily searching in finding cluse to keep up their hope
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it means 20 months of spending their time on forums,talking and analysing hoping like IDIOTS he might be alive
_William62_: @jermjackson5 and YOU? YOU simply do not care about it. You simply do not care
I wonder if this person is not among us.. She or he knows exactly what we are writting. I guess she is forcing him to slip up again. Maybe she or he should say why did you say airport instead of hospital???
I would appreciate if other people would not try to think for me, not try to feel for me and not try to live for me but do this for themselves only.
The following is meant to go only to that twitter author in case that person is reading here:
I am not suffering from any issue since 2 years. From what you wrote it appears to me that you are suffering a lot. However, please don't mix up your personal perception and the life of others.
I don't need your indecisive sorrow being projected on my shoulders and I don't accept it.
I made up my mind on my own and as a grown-up having come to a conclusion over some time I am neither an idiot nor am I desperately looking for new clues to get "reinforced" in my opinion. I AM DOING FINE, I am laughing a lot and so are many folks on this board as far as I understood, to date. So don't think you are representing me when you talk about the folks on hoax boards - you are not representing others, only yourself, and your utterances are coming from you only.
If you are desperate to find closure, go for your truth and name it what it is: YOUR very personal search and YOUR truth. Don't hide behind a plural that is not there just to appear more important or get more weight behind your sentences.
It is sufficient that you say "it is important to ME" to be important.
No need to go for "they". This doesn't help - neither the cause nor your efforts.
What you wrote to Jermaine is kind of disrespectful.
Jermaine as anybody else in the Jackson family does not owe anybody anything - and certainly not just because they are relatives and you are a fan or because you are having a problem.
Jermaine may understand that you are in utter dispair and pains.
However, nobody is responsible for the solution to your problems but yourself.
No need for Jermaine or the family to deliver any relief to anyone.
Your questions have to be addressed to yourself only, to nobody else.
"The government has to do it, Michael's brother has to do it, the teacher, the leader, God, anybody but me has to do it."
NO. Certainly not. It's YOUR turn to care for yourself. Nobody else's.
You yourself have the power to release you from your concreted cage.
Go for it and just jump out. Just do it.
Dare loving and all will fall into a big picture with you as an important part of it.
I wish you brother, sister, much love on your path.
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer :roll:
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
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And Jermaine said nothing to this non-believer, right? ;)
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
Dancingthedream is this what Jermaine said that he is not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back? Or you are stating that?
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I know Jermaine reads our forum. Look what he wrote in feb 9 I do not know if you have read this.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
is impressed by the pro-Michael army going on a mission to bring decency to You Tube content. A truly Herculean effort rooted in love
If he did not read this here than he is a clairvoyant. :lol: So he knows about this forum, I think from on we should be careful for what we write. He said ARMY wow!! That is really cool, I am sure Michael is reading the forum.. If he is seeing how much we miss him and fighting for him, he will be back sooner than expected. This is just my intuition coming back at the surface. Blessings.
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
Dancingthedream is this what Jermaine said that he is not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back? Or you are stating that?
I did not write that, Gema did. I was quoting her. xxxx
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
Dancingthedream is this what Jermaine said that he is not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back? Or you are stating that?
I did not write that, Gema did. I was quoting her. xxxx
Ah ok thanks
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
Dancingthedream is this what Jermaine said that he is not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back? Or you are stating that?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: We are getting all mixed up here :lol: :lol:
It is me saying "I am not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back"
I thought Jermaine gave a general answer to all of the questions received asking for clarification.
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
Dancingthedream is this what Jermaine said that he is not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back? Or you are stating that?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: We are getting all mixed up here :lol: :lol:
It is me saying "I am not suffering my life goes on with or without Michael coming back"
I thought Jermaine gave a general answer to all of the questions received asking for clarification.
Gema thank you for clarifying it. I do strongly believe that Jermaine knows it is a hoax he will not slip up again. He probably got in shit for slipping up last time. Yes you are right our lives will continue without Michael if he is really dead, which I believe he is alive.
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Gotta love Jermaine. I guess I am just one of few on here who likes the guy. Again he gives us proof that this is indeed a hoax and apparently we will have to wait until after the verdict, something we expected already. But HOW exactly this will play out will remain a surprise for us all, I am sure of it. Until that day, all we have to do is keep the faith, no matter what happens.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything
1 hour ago
So no truth during the trial? That's an odd statement to non-believers...
In other words: loads of BS during the trial, but hold on because after the trial we will get the truth.
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I think it's so useless to ask these questions to the Jacksons!
They seem to enjoy this story Hoax!
Here in Brazil has already been asked this question to Joe Jackson, Leonard Rowe and Jackson Taryll responses and reactions are always the same.
Joe said that we are forcing Michael to be alive! Rowe simply put her hands on her lips, as if asking for silence when a fan who asked: "Michael is alive?" Taryll and girlfriend (who is Brazilian) simply did face a penalty when a group of fans mentioned the possibility of Michael being alive and Taryll just shook his head as if to say, poor things!
So, no point pushing it. If they know something, they will not speak! Or to protect Michael and his plan or because they want to perpetuate this hoax story for some reason!
They have had many opportunities to talk to fans and never did!
I'm sure the same thing will be ask Mrs Katherine when she comes to Brazil at the end of this month ... but already one can guess what she'll say us!
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Gotta love Jermaine. I guess I am just one of few on here who likes the guy. Again he gives us proof that this is indeed a hoax and apparently we will have to wait until after the verdict, something we expected already. But HOW exactly this will play out will remain a surprise for us all, I am sure of it. Until that day, all we have to do is keep the faith, no matter what happens.
I hear you... This is what I feel all along. I am trying to respond to Jermaine in twitter but I never get an answer. He answers others, I am being very very careful what I say, and I do not ask about Michael being alive and it is a hoax. So he will be more at ease to talk to me. I guess my reverse psychology is backfiring me :lol: Blessings.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything
1 hour ago
So no truth during the trial? That's an odd statement to non-believers...
In other words: loads of BS during the trial, but hold on because after the trial we will get the truth.
Yes, and 'Justice first' would mean that Murray will be found not guilty, so not necessarily loads of BS! As you say, what on earth will non-believers make of this? Maybe there will be fewer of them by the time the trial is over - I have a feeling the trial may be like a recap of all 'the odd things', so that those who didn't latch on first time around, will have another chance to see what they all point to!
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# @clearmjsname2 the unconditional love and support of the fans is valued beyond measure. We love you all back! about 2 hours ago via web in reply to clearmjsname2
@FairyWingRamses justice shld spring from the truth, but the truth concerns much more than one court's limited scope about 2 hours ago via web in reply to FairyWingRamses
@clearmjsname2 the truth that matters is the truth from those who love him, know him and know what he faced and felt about 2 hours ago via web in reply to clearmjsname2
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything about 2 hours ago via web
@KarlaJorge thanku -- family can only do its best. we face complex matters but perceived 'silence' does not mean private inaction
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# @clearmjsname2 the unconditional love and support of the fans is valued beyond measure. We love you all back! about 2 hours ago via web in reply to clearmjsname2
@FairyWingRamses justice shld spring from the truth, but the truth concerns much more than one court's limited scope about 2 hours ago via web in reply to FairyWingRamses
@clearmjsname2 the truth that matters is the truth from those who love him, know him and know what he faced and felt about 2 hours ago via web in reply to clearmjsname2
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything about 2 hours ago via web
@KarlaJorge thanku -- family can only do its best. we face complex matters but perceived 'silence' does not mean private inaction
These yes, responses are very interesting for us, believers! ;)
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything
1 hour ago
So no truth during the trial? That's an odd statement to non-believers...
In other words: loads of BS during the trial, but hold on because after the trial we will get the truth.
HAHA! So far they havent let us down. I dont think I've ever seen such a huge pile of BS in such short time. LMAO
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Those tweets to Jermaine were very direct and to the point to get the answer "MJ is dead, there is no hoax", yet Jermaine decided to give an ambiguous answer
Anyway, I am not suffering :lol: my life goes on with or without Michael coming back.
As Teddy R said (more or less) "If people believe Elvis is alive why can´t I believe MJ is? ;)
When did he give an answer to this person???????
As far as i see, he answered DLLZZ... and we dont know what she asked him????
Jerm didn't answer to that person. He wrote to dllzz person. And Grace very true. I agree with you 100%!
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# @clearmjsname2 the unconditional love and support of the fans is valued beyond measure. We love you all back!
We love you all (believers and non-believers) back!
@FairyWingRamses justice shld spring from the truth, but the truth concerns much more than one court's limited scope about
The court is not going to bring the truth.
@clearmjsname2 the truth that matters is the truth from those who love him, know him and know what he faced and felt about
The justice is about what Michael had to go through and what he faced.
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything about
After the court ends, we will find out the truth. (Which also means Michael will BAM after the court ends)
@KarlaJorge thanku -- family can only do its best. we face complex matters but perceived 'silence' does not mean private inaction
Family is doing their best to help Michael.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything
1 hour ago
So no truth during the trial? That's an odd statement to non-believers...
In other words: loads of BS during the trial, but hold on because after the trial we will get the truth.
I agree with you Souza! What an odd statement.
Wouldn't the Truth come out WHEN justice is served? Why the truth later??
So wierd.... :? !!
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Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
I do not follow that person as I do not follow any non-believers but her description is this:
Michael you gave us your all,you owe us nothing.The world owes you everything,we will speak out against lies+LIARS & fight 4 all encompassing justice! http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html (http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html)
That's the reason why I wrote that she is a non-believer. And btw a non-believer is forcing Jerm to tell that this is not a hoax. If he wanted to address about the hoax he would have written to this person who keeps on asking him to tell that this is not a hoax. Here are the tweets:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 then why are so many hoax forums on the web?WHY don't you act like a man and say it?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you make a public statement about this false death hoax?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you have a piece of heart and stop the pain of these people who in vain hope Michael is alive?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 You simply cannot deny the fact that you all know about the death hoax forums
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply ignore all those people and just BECAUSE of THIS they keep believing he is alive,for almost 2 years!!!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 when there's a huge and grave problem among his fans.They believe he is ALIVE,you know what that implies?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it implies SUFFERING and it implies 20 months of daily searching in finding cluse to keep up their hope
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it means 20 months of spending their time on forums,talking and analysing hoping like IDIOTS he might be alive
_William62_: @jermjackson5 and YOU? YOU simply do not care about it. You simply do not care
I wonder if this person is not among us.. She or he knows exactly what we are writting. I guess she is forcing him to slip up again. Maybe she or he should say why did you say airport instead of hospital???
I would appreciate if other people would not try to think for me, not try to feel for me and not try to live for me but do this for themselves only.
The following is meant to go only to that twitter author in case that person is reading here:
I am not suffering from any issue since 2 years. From what you wrote it appears to me that you are suffering a lot. However, please don't mix up your personal perception and the life of others.
I don't need your indecisive sorrow being projected on my shoulders and I don't accept it.
I made up my mind on my own and as a grown-up having come to a conclusion over some time I am neither an idiot nor am I desperately looking for new clues to get "reinforced" in my opinion. I AM DOING FINE, I am laughing a lot and so are many folks on this board as far as I understood, to date. So don't think you are representing me when you talk about the folks on hoax boards - you are not representing others, only yourself, and your utterances are coming from you only.
If you are desperate to find closure, go for your truth and name it what it is: YOUR very personal search and YOUR truth. Don't hide behind a plural that is not there just to appear more important or get more weight behind your sentences.
It is sufficient that you say "it is important to ME" to be important.
No need to go for "they". This doesn't help - neither the cause nor your efforts.
What you wrote to Jermaine is kind of disrespectful.
Jermaine as anybody else in the Jackson family does not owe anybody anything - and certainly not just because they are relatives and you are a fan or because you are having a problem.
Jermaine may understand that you are in utter dispair and pains.
However, nobody is responsible for the solution to your problems but yourself.
No need for Jermaine or the family to deliver any relief to anyone.
Your questions have to be addressed to yourself only, to nobody else.
"The government has to do it, Michael's brother has to do it, the teacher, the leader, God, anybody but me has to do it."
NO. Certainly not. It's YOUR turn to care for yourself. Nobody else's.
You yourself have the power to release you from your concreted cage.
Go for it and just jump out. Just do it.
Dare loving and all will fall into a big picture with you as an important part of it.
I wish you brother, sister, much love on your path.
Who are you talking to? I see you are replying to my post. I never implied you. I meant the person on twitter..
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Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
I do not follow that person as I do not follow any non-believers but her description is this:
Michael you gave us your all,you owe us nothing.The world owes you everything,we will speak out against lies+LIARS & fight 4 all encompassing justice! http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html (http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html)
That's the reason why I wrote that she is a non-believer. And btw a non-believer is forcing Jerm to tell that this is not a hoax. If he wanted to address about the hoax he would have written to this person who keeps on asking him to tell that this is not a hoax. Here are the tweets:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 then why are so many hoax forums on the web?WHY don't you act like a man and say it?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you make a public statement about this false death hoax?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you have a piece of heart and stop the pain of these people who in vain hope Michael is alive?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 You simply cannot deny the fact that you all know about the death hoax forums
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply ignore all those people and just BECAUSE of THIS they keep believing he is alive,for almost 2 years!!!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 when there's a huge and grave problem among his fans.They believe he is ALIVE,you know what that implies?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it implies SUFFERING and it implies 20 months of daily searching in finding cluse to keep up their hope
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it means 20 months of spending their time on forums,talking and analysing hoping like IDIOTS he might be alive
_William62_: @jermjackson5 and YOU? YOU simply do not care about it. You simply do not care
I wonder if this person is not among us.. She or he knows exactly what we are writting. I guess she is forcing him to slip up again. Maybe she or he should say why did you say airport instead of hospital???
I would appreciate if other people would not try to think for me, not try to feel for me and not try to live for me but do this for themselves only.
The following is meant to go only to that twitter author in case that person is reading here:
I am not suffering from any issue since 2 years. From what you wrote it appears to me that you are suffering a lot. However, please don't mix up your personal perception and the life of others.
I don't need your indecisive sorrow being projected on my shoulders and I don't accept it.
I made up my mind on my own and as a grown-up having come to a conclusion over some time I am neither an idiot nor am I desperately looking for new clues to get "reinforced" in my opinion. I AM DOING FINE, I am laughing a lot and so are many folks on this board as far as I understood, to date. So don't think you are representing me when you talk about the folks on hoax boards - you are not representing others, only yourself, and your utterances are coming from you only.
If you are desperate to find closure, go for your truth and name it what it is: YOUR very personal search and YOUR truth. Don't hide behind a plural that is not there just to appear more important or get more weight behind your sentences.
It is sufficient that you say "it is important to ME" to be important.
No need to go for "they". This doesn't help - neither the cause nor your efforts.
What you wrote to Jermaine is kind of disrespectful.
Jermaine as anybody else in the Jackson family does not owe anybody anything - and certainly not just because they are relatives and you are a fan or because you are having a problem.
Jermaine may understand that you are in utter dispair and pains.
However, nobody is responsible for the solution to your problems but yourself.
No need for Jermaine or the family to deliver any relief to anyone.
Your questions have to be addressed to yourself only, to nobody else.
"The government has to do it, Michael's brother has to do it, the teacher, the leader, God, anybody but me has to do it."
NO. Certainly not. It's YOUR turn to care for yourself. Nobody else's.
You yourself have the power to release you from your concreted cage.
Go for it and just jump out. Just do it.
Dare loving and all will fall into a big picture with you as an important part of it.
I wish you brother, sister, much love on your path.
Who are you talking to? I see you are replying to my post. I never implied you. I meant the person on twitter..
Grace is talking to that _william_ person who made the tweets to Jermaine. You mentioned that person can be among us, so she's writing to that william person just in case s/he reads it. :) xxx
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Can you tell us what dllzz tweeted to Jermaine? x
I do not follow that person as I do not follow any non-believers but her description is this:
Michael you gave us your all,you owe us nothing.The world owes you everything,we will speak out against lies+LIARS & fight 4 all encompassing justice! http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html (http://mjfansboycottsony.weebly.com/index.html)
That's the reason why I wrote that she is a non-believer. And btw a non-believer is forcing Jerm to tell that this is not a hoax. If he wanted to address about the hoax he would have written to this person who keeps on asking him to tell that this is not a hoax. Here are the tweets:
_William62_: @jermjackson5 then why are so many hoax forums on the web?WHY don't you act like a man and say it?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you make a public statement about this false death hoax?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 why don't you have a piece of heart and stop the pain of these people who in vain hope Michael is alive?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 You simply cannot deny the fact that you all know about the death hoax forums
_William62_: @jermjackson5 you simply ignore all those people and just BECAUSE of THIS they keep believing he is alive,for almost 2 years!!!
_William62_: @jermjackson5 when there's a huge and grave problem among his fans.They believe he is ALIVE,you know what that implies?
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it implies SUFFERING and it implies 20 months of daily searching in finding cluse to keep up their hope
_William62_: @jermjackson5 it means 20 months of spending their time on forums,talking and analysing hoping like IDIOTS he might be alive
_William62_: @jermjackson5 and YOU? YOU simply do not care about it. You simply do not care
I wonder if this person is not among us.. She or he knows exactly what we are writting. I guess she is forcing him to slip up again. Maybe she or he should say why did you say airport instead of hospital???
I would appreciate if other people would not try to think for me, not try to feel for me and not try to live for me but do this for themselves only.
The following is meant to go only to that twitter author in case that person is reading here:
I am not suffering from any issue since 2 years. From what you wrote it appears to me that you are suffering a lot. However, please don't mix up your personal perception and the life of others.
I don't need your indecisive sorrow being projected on my shoulders and I don't accept it.
I made up my mind on my own and as a grown-up having come to a conclusion over some time I am neither an idiot nor am I desperately looking for new clues to get "reinforced" in my opinion. I AM DOING FINE, I am laughing a lot and so are many folks on this board as far as I understood, to date. So don't think you are representing me when you talk about the folks on hoax boards - you are not representing others, only yourself, and your utterances are coming from you only.
If you are desperate to find closure, go for your truth and name it what it is: YOUR very personal search and YOUR truth. Don't hide behind a plural that is not there just to appear more important or get more weight behind your sentences.
It is sufficient that you say "it is important to ME" to be important.
No need to go for "they". This doesn't help - neither the cause nor your efforts.
What you wrote to Jermaine is kind of disrespectful.
Jermaine as anybody else in the Jackson family does not owe anybody anything - and certainly not just because they are relatives and you are a fan or because you are having a problem.
Jermaine may understand that you are in utter dispair and pains.
However, nobody is responsible for the solution to your problems but yourself.
No need for Jermaine or the family to deliver any relief to anyone.
Your questions have to be addressed to yourself only, to nobody else.
"The government has to do it, Michael's brother has to do it, the teacher, the leader, God, anybody but me has to do it."
NO. Certainly not. It's YOUR turn to care for yourself. Nobody else's.
You yourself have the power to release you from your concreted cage.
Go for it and just jump out. Just do it.
Dare loving and all will fall into a big picture with you as an important part of it.
I wish you brother, sister, much love on your path.
Who are you talking to? I see you are replying to my post. I never implied you. I meant the person on twitter..
Grace is talking to that _william_ person who made the tweets to Jermaine. You mentioned that person can be among us, so she's writing to that william person just in case s/he reads it. :) xxx
Thanks Purlove. I was wondering. Go for it..
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this is not Jermaine's twitter but Janet's this is what she did:
"Janet wrote a check for just under $50,000 so that the Jacksons could stage Michael’s internment--" Stage?
What do they mean by stage? Was his internment fake like we suspected?
this is another tweet
How Janet Jackson Paid for Michael’s Funeral http://www.showbiz411.com/2011/02/18/ho ... ls-funeral (http://www.showbiz411.com/2011/02/18/how-janet-jackson-paid-for-michaels-funeral)
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
There is a due legal process we must honor. Justice first. And then it will be time for truth. Your support in the meantime means everything
7hours ago
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# Minor leaks have never been known to turn a tide : ) about 3 hours ago via web
@MJJ777HeTheWo couldn't agree more. I don't listen to "tittle-tattle". I listen to what my brother told me in life
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# Minor leaks have never been known to turn a tide : ) about 3 hours ago via web
@MJJ777HeTheWo couldn't agree more. I don't listen to "tittle-tattle". I listen to what my brother told me in life
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Minor leaks have never been known to turn a tide : )
What leaks is he talking about? anyone knows?
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Jermaine Jacksons latest tweets:
What our mother is doing stems from love for a son she lost. She's doing this with a good heart, and is doing her best. Pls support her.
19 minutes ago via web
Re AEG lawsuit. We're seeking justice with the best team. All cases face certain hurdles. It's time for faith not defeatism
31 minutes ago via web
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I'm missing old Jermaine when he was making amazing slip-ups. But I think his part is over.
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I'm missing old Jermaine when he was making amazing slip-ups. But I think his part is over.
i think he got into trouble by the family.. so no more slip ups... :lol:
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perhaps there never were any slip-ups, we might have read too much into somethings that might just have been simple mistakes? Idk, just trying to put two sides to everything...
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This is not coooool :(((((( What do you make of a statement like THIS?
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
what wld have Michael turn in his grave is not the love his children receive, but the fact the mother he loved dearly is so readily attacked
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This is not coooool :(((((( What do you make of a statement like THIS?
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
what wld have Michael turn in his grave is not the love his children receive, but the fact the mother he loved dearly is so readily attacked
Re AEG lawsuit. We're seeking justice with the best team. All cases face certain hurdles. It's time for faith not defeatism
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This is not coooool :(((((( What do you make of a statement like THIS?
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
what wld have Michael turn in his grave is not the love his children receive, but the fact the mother he loved dearly is so readily attacked
Re AEG lawsuit. We're seeking justice with the best team. All cases face certain hurdles. It's time for faith not defeatism
DebbieforMJ appreciated : ) people fail to see the bigger -- and private -- picture; they're too busy picking holes in the smallest one
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This is not coooool :(((((( What do you make of a statement like THIS?
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
what wld have Michael turn in his grave is not the love his children receive, but the fact the mother he loved dearly is so readily attacked
What WOULD HAVE ....
If he were dead that is. Read and see ;)
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This is not coooool :(((((( What do you make of a statement like THIS?
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
what wld have Michael turn in his grave is not the love his children receive, but the fact the mother he loved dearly is so readily attacked
What WOULD HAVE ....
If he were dead that is. Read and see ;)
Get cha' girl ;)
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This is not coooool :(((((( What do you make of a statement like THIS?
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
what wld have Michael turn in his grave is not the love his children receive, but the fact the mother he loved dearly is so readily attacked
What WOULD HAVE ....
If he were dead that is. Read and see ;)
That's what I was thinking by reading that!
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Probably nothing but this tweet was interesting considering the Dodo's latest adventures. lol
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
"In Harmony, together we'll join hands and sing of love across the land". From 2300 Jackson St #Family 26 Feb via web
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Probably nothing but this tweet was interesting considering the Dodo's latest adventures. lol
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
"In Harmony, together we'll join hands and sing of love across the land". From 2300 Jackson St #Family 26 Feb via web
I thought the same. Dodo is in Gary and Jermaine made this tweet. It's interesting.
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# @harrisonfunk thanku for the retweets my friend! You always remind me of happy memories... about 7 hours ago via web in reply to harrisonfunk
@maninthe777 thanku for ur concern & support. I can't dignify certain reactions with a response, and there is a time for truth... about 11 hours ago via web in reply to maninthe777
@luvntheJack5ons messages like that keep ME young : ) #
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@Kristy_Flowers managing to relax a bit after working in studio in both Paris & Dubai. Home's in sight... 28 February 2011 10:02:55 via web in reply to Kristy_Flowers
@KJ_Hendena I'm well, thank u for asking and @DanubeSerri_ I see all your tweets, even if I can't reply to every one ; ) 28 February 2011 09:50:16 via web in reply to KJ_Hendena
43 years ago! ; ) Wow RT @Jackson5abc 43 years ago...On Feb 14 1968, the Jackson 5 won Superdog Finals in Amateur Night at the Apollo! 28 February 2011 09:46:27 via web in reply to Jackson5abc
@GentleScorpion Twitter won't help you sleep. I know that much! Sweet dreams : ) 28 February 2011 09:40:32 via web in reply to GentleScorpion
@ShellandMark01 thank you! -- and I send prayers to all three of you #
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So Celine Dion sang 'Smile' at #Oscars -- special song. Remember her singing 'Power of Love' at Jackson Family Honors '94 -- special night 28 February 2011 09:31:54 via web
@KarlaJorge We are trying our best. But you, and we, shall ultimately have the final say. His fans & family remain one voice 27 February 2011 23:08:29 via web in reply to KarlaJorge
@KarlaJorge I agree, many things need to be examined & understood. The expectation of immediate answers is frustrated by a due legal process 27 February 2011 23:06:17 via web in reply to KarlaJorge
@KarlaJorge I wish we cld stop all lies, poison documentaries & defense painting its inevitable allegations 27 February 2011 23:05:16 via web in reply to KarlaJorge
Who does life take seriously? Those who scream & rage & vent? Or those who speak calmly, with love, with wisdom, in truth...
# @DebbieforMJ We'll always be there to defend Michael. In death as in life, even when water professes to know him better than blood 27 February 2011 12:55:05 via web in reply to DebbieforMJ
@rthomas79 no need for apologies, and I respect such a mature and heartfelt argument. Just know we hear you : ) 27 February 2011 12:51:31 via web in reply to rthomas79
@Jack5onWarriors thankyou for reminding everyone of Michael's words about his family 27 February 2011 12:46:43 via web in reply to Jack5onWarriors
Bless u. The defense aint over! RT @Jack5onWarriors Jermaine defending Michael b4 Twitter & b4 "justice" groups existed http://bit.ly/hpnfsp (http://bit.ly/hpnfsp) 27 February 2011 12:44:40 via web in reply to Jack5onWarriors
It's already tomorrow in Dubai! Goodnight all : ) 26 February 2011 21:43:28 via web
@bluegangstaa I always will be a truth-teller, and thank you #
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@MJJPEACE i hear you, and I do see the difference btwn those who mean well, and those who are needlessly vitriolic. With love 26 February 2011 21:32:47 via web in reply to MJJPEACE
@bluegangstaa nothing's "too hard" ; ) and truth always wins... 9:30 PM Feb 26th via web
@blttrox I remember visiting the steel works at Xmas with my brothers & Joseph. Made us rehearse harder!!! ; ) 9:21 PM Feb 26th via web in reply to blttrox
@MJNA I hear you. Now pls hear me: I will defend my mother whenever she comes under attack, like any son should. As Michael would 9:17 PM Feb 26th via web in reply to MJNA
@blttrox so we share the same memory lane : ) thank you Barb! 9:11 PM Feb 26th via web in reply to blttrox
to the compassionate majority, thank you for your unstinting love, support, understanding...and retweets! With love : )
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We all know what happened last time he made an announcement
jermjackson5 I've important news to share. Soon. Stay tuned. It's time for our one voice to be heard...
about 1 hour ago via web
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I just saw this. Was wondering myself. Hm - I know what I want this to be about wishful thinking wise...but who knows.
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Jermaine sure knows how to crank up the suspense and keep us hanging on...we're waiting Jerm, out with it!!
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He ran out of the shoe-polish? :roll:
*sorry if I offended someone*
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:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm sure he has a sense of humour Susie
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:lol: :lol: :lol: I'm sure he has a sense of humour Susie
:oops:
I guess it's about his new comeback album. I've read at the official forum that:
Jackson told Gulf News that the album will have Middle Eastern and Asian influences
Jermaine Jackson collaborated with musicians like Adnan Sami and Sonu Nigam on the album.Image Credit: Gulf News Archive
Dubai: Jermaine Jackson, whose own attributes were often overlooked due to the phenomenal success of his brother Michael and sister Janet, is set to release his first solo album in 19 years, with several of the tracks having being recorded in Dubai.
Jackson told Gulf News that the album will have Middle Eastern and Asian influences while retaining its R & B core.
"I hope people will enjoy listening to my new songs just as much as I have enjoyed recording them," said Jackson, who was a surprise visitor to Meydan Racecourse on Thursday night.
"I've collaborated with musicians like Adnan Sami and Sonu Nigam on the album which will have a fair share of contemporary Middle Eastern and Asian rhythms. We hope to release the album this summer."
In the last 70s and early 80s Jermaine and his brothers Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Michael were The Jackson 5, a pop-music phenomena that remains till now one of the most successful and best selling music bands of all times.
source gulfnews
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(merge)
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Jermaine sure knows how to crank up the suspense and keep us hanging on...we're waiting Jerm, out with it!!
Unless he slips up first
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This is Jermaine latest tweet.
I've important news to share. Soon. Stay tuned. It's time for our one voice to be heard...
Who is a one voice, can it be Michael??
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@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
All will be announced tomorrow: 2pm UK time, 9am US EST, 6am PCT #youarenotalone
1 hour ago via web
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This is Jermaine latest tweet.
I've important news to share. Soon. Stay tuned. It's time for our one voice to be heard...
Who is a one voice, can it be Michael??
I don't think so. It can be something about him or the Jacksons but not about Michael. But let's wait and see what he says.
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Darn, I'll be at work... Sounds like something big, but the family has tweeted like that before and nothing, so let's see what he will announce.
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This is Jermaine latest tweet.
I've important news to share. Soon. Stay tuned. It's time for our one voice to be heard...
Who is a one voice, can it be Michael??
Curious about 'one voice' .....Hmmmm. Not gonna get my hopes up though! :|
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Jermaine is in London and will make announcements today !
http://www.jackson-source.com/news/416- ... nouncement (http://www.jackson-source.com/news/416-jermaine-to-make-news-announcement)
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jermjackson5 stay tuned today #youarenotalone 10 minutes ago via web
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I hope is something related to Michael´s trial.
How the world news looks today I can´t feel motivated to hear "I have a new album coming".
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I hope is something related to Michael´s trial.
How the world news looks today I can´t feel motivated to hear "I have a new album coming".
Me too ! But i am sure that it was such like that... :(
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This was the great news he was talking about. He just posted it. I don't understand these type of things..... another memory book. Another in memoriam. I am full of it, it makes my stommach turn upside down
http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/News_and ... CHAEL.aspx (http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/News_and_Events/News/Pages/HARPERCOLLINS-ACQUIRES-JERMAINE-JACKSON%e2%80%99S-AUTOBIOGRAPHY-OF-LIFE-WITH-HIS-BROTHER-MICHAEL.aspx)
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I can't go on like this, it's all a lie, and we are the blind. This is exactly how I feel.
Why would he keep repeating this if it wasn't true, they said it thousands of times already. Why repeating it if it's not true?
"We cannot bring our brother back but we can ensure his legacy is never forgotten in a book that commemorates his life – and says the things he never got the chance to say"
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His turn: Jermaine Jackson has book deal
Associated Press - 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
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NEW YORK - A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine is finally coming out.
Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson's "You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother's Eye" will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a "faithful and loving portrait," but one with "no subject off limits."
Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael's death, in 2009.
Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.
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Are they all going to write books?!? I guess I will have to read them all just to find the inconsistencies in their stories. :roll: At least my summer reading won't go to the wayside.
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I can't go on like this, it's all a lie, and we are the blind. This is exactly how I feel.
Why would he keep repeating this if it wasn't true, they said it thousands of times already. Why repeating it if it's not true?
"We cannot bring our brother back but we can ensure his legacy is never forgotten in a book that commemorates his life – and says the things he never got the chance to say"
Anna, I agree with what you are saying in that these roller-coaster tidbits of news that we receive each week regarding a death hoax is really difficult to take and not a very fun "game". However, looking at Jermaine's book in a circumstantially objective manner (i.e., in combination with a death hoax), if Michael had written the same book before June 25, 2009, it would more than likely, for the most part, have been dissected, analyzed, and ultimately spun in a negative light by the MSM, naysayers, and haters, and in turn been believed by the general public. Not saying that Jermaine's book won't receive some of that same treatment, but I for one, think that a book written about Michael by Jermaine will be viewed in a more objective light, particularly under the circumstances.
On another note, it's no secret that the BeLIEvers have grown to number in the thousands. That said, if Michael were truly gone, it would be extremely cruel of the Jackson family to not directly and conclusively set us straight by saying something along the lines of "for all of you who have come to believe in the rumor that Michael faked his death, we're sorry, but he really did pass away on June 25, 2009." To my knowledge, the Jackson family has not done anything of that nature, and consequently, that fact remains the greatest encouragement to MJ fans and BeLIEvers.
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I can't go on like this, it's all a lie, and we are the blind. This is exactly how I feel.
Why would he keep repeating this if it wasn't true, they said it thousands of times already. Why repeating it if it's not true?
"We cannot bring our brother back but we can ensure his legacy is never forgotten in a book that commemorates his life – and says the things he never got the chance to say"
Anna, I agree with what you are saying in that these roller-coaster tidbits of news that we receive each week regarding a death hoax is really difficult to take and not a very fun "game". However, looking at Jermaine's book in a circumstantially objective manner (i.e., in combination with a death hoax), if Michael had written the same book before June 25, 2009, it would more than likely, for the most part, have been dissected, analyzed, and ultimately spun in a negative light by the MSM, naysayers, and haters, and in turn been believed by the general public. Not saying that Jermaine's book won't receive some of that same treatment, but I for one, think that a book written about Michael by Jermaine will be viewed in a more objective light, particularly under the circumstances.
On another note, it's no secret that the BeLIEvers have grown to number in the thousands. That said, if Michael were truly gone, it would be extremely cruel of the Jackson family to not directly and conclusively set us straight by saying something along the lines of "for all of you who have come to believe in the rumor that Michael faked his death, we're sorry, but he really did pass away on June 25, 2009." To my knowledge, the Jackson family has not done anything of that nature, and consequently, that fact remains the greatest encouragement to MJ fans and BeLIEvers.
And Anna, if the family came out and said that Michael really did pass away... us believers would say...not Michael Joe, or only the professional Michael, or the other dead son Brandon is the "dead son"..we'd still find ways around it. We will never believe he's DEAD. Just like how many believers in Elvis being alive? I think if the family ever did that, we'd just have to face facts, that probably he wants to stay gone. Not dead. Just dead, to the world.
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His latest twitts
thanku for ur love & support. this project -- and doing justice to Michael's memory and the truth -- is very important to me
about 1 hour ago via web
a book stands the test of time, and can provide an eternal & final understanding of who my brother was, what he stood for, and what he faced
about 1 hour ago via web
I can't understand why they are messing with us like this. He keeps talking about him in the past and I see believers tweeted to him about Michael being alive, so I take this as an answer to us. I can't see anything good in this and I don't know why do we deserve to be the ones they have been messing with for 20 months. Just say it straight forward and stop this madness. I reached to believe they are so cruel that they enjoy messing with us, and not saying it straight to get it once and for all
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His latest twitts
thanku for ur love & support. this project -- and doing justice to Michael's memory and the truth -- is very important to me
about 1 hour ago via web
a book stands the test of time, and can provide an eternal & final understanding of who my brother was, what he stood for, and what he faced
about 1 hour ago via web
I can't understand why they are messing with us like this. He keeps talking about him in the past and I see believers tweeted to him about Michael being alive, so I take this as an answer to us. I can't see anything good in this and I don't know why do we deserve to be the ones they have been messing with for 20 months. Just say it straight forward and stop this madness. I reached to believe they are so cruel that they enjoy messing with us, and not saying it straight to get it once and for all
Anna, I agree with you, I remember him tweeting 'The best is yet to come' and many more of these cryptic 'announcements' and making his well-known 'slip ups'. Anything to stay in the news? Tributes (never came), judging dance-shows, writing books, appearing in talkshows, memorial show, aawwww, I can't believe this is happening. And we are the fools in the end (which I hope not). Why not address the rumours, tell the fans there is no hoax and that we must let Michael go. I'm so disappointed, but.....it's my own fault/choice.
Do we still have to stay positive, I don't know. Maybe I should move this post to the Negative Thread :?
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Well, I still believe Michael is alive, but I'm mad because I feel they are messing with our feelings. Blaaaaaaaahhhh.
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I do think of gathering many but many people - and I do know how to do this- to start a flood towards all of them until they will finally address us and tell us if the hoax is only imagination (which I start to think it is). I won't withdraw. I'll do this and no one can stop it. I am at one point to explode when I see how they enjoy messing with human's feelings. I explode! That was it. No way back
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Well, I still believe Michael is alive, but I'm mad because I feel they are messing with our feelings. Blaaaaaaaahhhh.
Or, maybe it's a family hoax for sure. Maybe they didn't rescue him, he rescued them. We know the bro's musical career had been gone for awhile. Now they are not only reviving Michael's bank, but "look, bro's this will help us all. You can write books about me and when I come back, we can have a huge family show (or tour as Jackie was saying on the online radio show could be happening after everyone finishes their own projects right now)". Really build up the entire Jackson bank accts.
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Has twitter crashed? I cant get on it to look at this.
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Well, I still believe Michael is alive, but I'm mad because I feel they are messing with our feelings. Blaaaaaaaahhhh.
Or, maybe it's a family hoax for sure. Maybe they didn't rescue him, he rescued them. We know the bro's musical career had been gone for awhile. Now they are not only reviving Michael's bank, but "look, bro's this will help us all. You can write books about me and when I come back, we can have a huge family show (or tour as Jackie was saying on the online radio show could be happening after everyone finishes their own projects right now)". Really build up the entire Jackson bank accts.
O yeah, a hoax it certainly is. And your explanation is telling. But...I'm not so sure about Michael's coming back anymore. And yeah, they are really building up their bank accounts. On the cost of what? They used the grief and sadness and hope from fans all over the world. But we are never able to accuse them of that, because they can say we built the hoax in our own minds and they have NEVER, ever addressed the hoax. No, they 'slipped up' and made 'announcements' like 'Very important news to share'. Yeah right, the next IN MEMORIAM book. THAT'S what we all have been waiting for.......
I agree with you, MICHAEL rescued them, big time. Hugs to you.
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I do think of gathering many but many people - and I do know how to do this- to start a flood towards all of them until they will finally address us and tell us if the hoax is only imagination (which I start to think it is). I won't withdraw. I'll do this and no one can stop it. I am at one point to explode when I see how they enjoy messing with human's feelings. I explode! That was it. No way back
Very good idea! Are you going to do this on twitter (I'm not on twitter :oops: )
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His latest twitts
thanku for ur love & support. this project -- and doing justice to Michael's memory and the truth -- is very important to me
about 1 hour ago via web
a book stands the test of time, and can provide an eternal & final understanding of who my brother was, what he stood for, and what he faced
about 1 hour ago via web
I can't understand why they are messing with us like this. He keeps talking about him in the past and I see believers tweeted to him about Michael being alive, so I take this as an answer to us. I can't see anything good in this and I don't know why do we deserve to be the ones they have been messing with for 20 months. Just say it straight forward and stop this madness. I reached to believe they are so cruel that they enjoy messing with us, and not saying it straight to get it once and for all
Anna, please, don´t feel that bad.
I understand why you feel this way. When I talk about the hoax to other people and explain how the family is not answering directly about the faked death, people answer me that going on not telling fans that is not a hoax is just a way to live on MJ´s fans. This view is cruel, but can be situation.
I still believe that all the books coming out from the family members lately are a must for peope to understand who Michael is from the family perspective. So far, we just had strangers writing about Michael, and La Toya´s book was not the best representing Michael.
You are not the kind that would stick to anyone elses opinion but your own ;) Don´t let this situation push you down and shake your balance causing you pain and desperation.
You are free to change your mind from believing MJ is alive to not to believe it, but that decision must come from you, not from the family, not from us.
Hope you feel better soon.
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I am so going to read that book! That is of course IF it will ever be publisheed, we all know what happened to his memorial concert, and the second one. But if the book is real, I am sure it will be an interesting read. I'm afraid it will be heart breaking as well.
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Well this book is set to be released in Fall (November?) 2011... maybe that the BAM will already have occured. :D
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... 6320110316 (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/idINIndia-55636320110316)
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Every sibling giving their version regarding Michael, how they perceive him, it should have happened before MJ "died". May be right after the 2005 Trial.
I checked my tweeter today and some fans are very angry at Jermaine.
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Every sibling giving their version regarding Michael, how they perceive him, it should have happened before MJ "died". May be right after the 2005 Trial.
I checked my tweeter today and some fans are very angry at Jermaine.
I also agree with the poster who said that Michael rescued the family, not the other way around. I have thought that for a long time. And, it's not just the brothers and sisters, but also the nephews and nieces.
I don't think a book would have been well received in 2005. People would have said that the family was just covering for Michael. Now, hearts have softened and people are beginning to realize what really happened to Michael - that he was the victim.
I see a couple of tweets from Jermaine that make me believe that it's not geared towards Michael's supporters but to those that still believe negative things about Michael. This is about cleaning up Michael's image and I support that. Who better than a family member to do this? Blessings.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@DebbieforMJ I know, but it's also about reaching out to the doubters & critics & those who were not so kind, banishing the myths with truth
15 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
why does the good faith of a brother's tribute have to be besmirched by a few who find the negative in a positive endeavor rooted in love?
15 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@sjmart i intend to do just that. We all, including Michael, stayed quiet for too long. Not anymore. Now it's our turn...
15 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
#youarenotalone came into being last year and I am proud & excited to be documenting the truth
51 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Exactly! RT @GodsLittle_Rose: @JermJackson5 It's time the world knew the real MJ & not the one the media painted...
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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Well this book is set to be released in Fall (November?) 2011... maybe that the BAM will already have occured. :D
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... 6320110316 (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/idINIndia-55636320110316)
hmmm this book is also about clearing MJ's name and showing the world who the real Michael Jackson is but the releasing date seems a little bit far away. Is it because the BAM is not going to happen this year? :?
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Well this book is set to be released in Fall (November?) 2011... maybe that the BAM will already have occured. :D
http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/1 ... 6320110316 (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/16/idINIndia-55636320110316)
hmmm this book is also about clearing MJ's name and showing the world who the real Michael Jackson is but the releasing date seems a little bit far away. Is it because the BAM is not going to happen this year? :?
Please let us not wait another year! I still hope his come back will be this summer if not.....I'm not going anywhere, though it will be hard at times
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson:
@blttrox team effort, as always
@Kasmie all I'll say is: don't judge a book by its cover. all is not what it seems ; )
(in reply to: Kasmie: @jermjackson5 I like it but...the title shouldn't be covering that beautiful face lol)
FYI - book is slated for Oct 13th release. Check out the UK cover on Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/66hx3ln (http://tinyurl.com/66hx3ln) #youarenotalone
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
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Yeah, why is the cover over michaels face?
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Yeah, why is the cover over michaels face?
Interesting - it's not over his whole face. I first thought of Behind the Mask. I also noticed that the wording is over Michael's mouth as if he either has no voice or Jermaine is his voice. I also noticed the red background behind the lettering like the red curtain we keep seeing.
I like Jermaine's tweet - now to figure out what he meant by it as he could have said "I agree" or "we'll consider changing it" or perhaps giving the real reason it's that way. Instead to say "all is not what it seems"...yeah, we know that, don't we :)
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makes me think of dangerous cover
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And why again such an "old" picture instead of a more recent one? Reminds me of Katherines book with all the old photos, not one from the recent years.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
I see a very prominent "MJJ". Makes me think that there's someone other than Jermaine that is behind this book...
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
I see a very prominent "MJJ". Makes me think that there's someone other than Jermaine that is behind this book...
Yeah.. a ghost writer! :lol: No way Jermaine is writing this himself, bless him!
(sorry couldnt resist)
All i will say is that i want to leave you with this thought: PLEASE dont get your hopes up about this book. It could turn out to be a very heartbreaking read. :(
I also wonder if jermaine will address "word to the badd" in it. I hope he does and explains his actions for once and for all. If this is the truth, then there should be no hiding. But i wont hide my breath for the truth....
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This is the description on Amazon (thanks Jermaine :) )
"Product Description
‘This is the truth as we know it. I have read so much about what people think they know about Michael, but this is about what really happened.’ Jermaine Jackson
You Are Not Alone is an intimate, loving portrait of Michael Jackson, illuminating the private man like never before. It is an invitation into Michael’s real character, private insights and hidden feelings: the innermost thoughts of a fiercely private individual.
Jermaine Jackson knew Michael like only a brother can. In You Are Not Alone Jermaine brings light to the man behind the mask of superstardom, an identity that has lingered in the shadows for too long. You Are Not Alone is a celebration of the real Michael: the boy who shared a tiny bunkbed with Jermaine at 2300 Jackson Street, Gary, Indiana; the brother with whom Jermaine shared laughter, tears and memories; the boy who would grow up to become a legend.
Raw, honest and incredibly moving, You Are Not Alone is also a sophisticated, no-holds-barred examination of Michael Jackson, aimed at fostering a true and final understanding of who he was and what shaped him. This is Michael Jackson--the human, not the legend--through a brother’s eyes.
If you love Michael Jackson, this is the only book you will want to read.
If you think you know the Michael Jackson story, it’s time to think again."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Are-Not-Alo ... xx10100-21 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Are-Not-Alone-Brothers/dp/0007435665/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300576504&sr=8-1&tag=10xxx10100-21)
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If you think you know the Michael Jackson story, it’s time to think again."
http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Are-Not-Alo ... xx10100-21 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/You-Are-Not-Alone-Brothers/dp/0007435665/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300576504&sr=8-1&tag=10xxx10100-21)[/quote]
That one sentence reminds me of the intro of Breaking News. ''If you thougt there was nothing more to say about Michael Jackson just wait.''
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he is tweeting now
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It seems Murray's defense is determined to prove my brother was something he wasn't. The DA must step up & defend the truth. Let's see...
47 minutes ago
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i think it curious the courts have, so far, not called anyone closest to Michael as character witnesses at trial...to speak up for HIS truth
52 minutes ago
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i think it curious the courts have, so far, not called anyone closest to Michael as character witnesses at trial...to speak up for HIS truth
52 minutes ago
to speak up for HIS truth? This made me think, if "someone" close to MJ is going to be the Star Witness at the trial? This is HIStory. But still I'm missing the old Jermaine who was giving us clues and perfect slip-ups. What happened to that dude? lol
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
On the cover of the book, the red banner is on MJ's mouth and it seems like Jermaine is trying to give "he can not talk for himself now but I'm doing it for my brother" kind of message.
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I really miss Michael. :(
It just hit me again. :(
I dont want Jermaines book, or Tito's songs, or LaToyas TV programmes. I just want Michael.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
On the cover of the book, the red banner is on MJ's mouth and it seems like Jermaine is trying to give "he can not talk for himself now but I'm doing it for my brother" kind of message.
It looks like a "red curtain" with Michael's eyes peeking out.
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Not to get anyones hopes down but maybe this book has to come first before MJ. Also I noticed on the cover Michael and Jermaine Jackson were in capitals, that led me to believe that they both did the book (mostly Michael though, I think) and when it says 'through a brother's eyes' that's pretty much all they show of MJ's face...so it seems more like his book that Jermaine's, to me anyway.
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Jermaine has tweeted again.
What he has put about witnesses being put on notice, is what i said ages ago.
So the likes of Karen Faye should know if they are likely to be called up, as they should be on notice now.
I do not think Karen Faye has been called up as a witness.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
That jacket Michael is wearing is from the Victory Tour (Kansas?). I tried to find that pic but can´t right now, anyway, I remember that pic of Michael. To me, his eyes look maturer on the book cover.
I noticed a lot of emphasis in Michael´s eyes lately. If he ever comes back, the eyes would not lie and would be the key to know if it´s him or a fake.
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Gema, that picture does look like it's from the opening of the Victory Tour in Kansas (cover of USA Today). And I also agree with you about the eyes--we'll know MJ by his eyes.
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Thanks for the tip!! I found the cover!
(http://johnsimondaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-entertainment-weekly-cover-i.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
Imo, many references of MJ comes with past imaes like this because it represents time before the media circus.
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Jermaine just tweeted he is back in LA
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I've kept a dignified silence for 7 yrs in the interests of my children re the child support case. Sadly, that's not been reciprocated...
It is a private matter, but I'm not having the lie continue that I do not financially support my children. I do. I have. I always will...
But there's is a difference btwn providing reasonable child support (on top of rent/clothes/education) and being held to ransom...
I'll be saying nothing else on this matter, but thank you for the support & love you good people have expressed x
I doubt people will now stop bashing Jermaine, but I can imagine he's done with the bias.
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I've kept a dignified silence for 7 yrs in the interests of my children re the child support case. Sadly, that's not been reciprocated...
It is a private matter, but I'm not having the lie continue that I do not financially support my children. I do. I have. I always will...
But there's is a difference btwn providing reasonable child support (on top of rent/clothes/education) and being held to ransom...
I'll be saying nothing else on this matter, but thank you for the support & love you good people have expressed x
I doubt people will now stop bashing Jermaine, but I can imagine he's done with the bias.
If his children are of an adult age, they should look for a job. He does not need to support them vitam eternam.. If he pays the necessities, that is enough they can find a job like any other kids who would like to buy clothing etc... They are not any different than another child.
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I've kept a dignified silence for 7 yrs in the interests of my children re the child support case. Sadly, that's not been reciprocated...
It is a private matter, but I'm not having the lie continue that I do not financially support my children. I do. I have. I always will...
But there's is a difference btwn providing reasonable child support (on top of rent/clothes/education) and being held to ransom...
I'll be saying nothing else on this matter, but thank you for the support & love you good people have expressed x
I doubt people will now stop bashing Jermaine, but I can imagine he's done with the bias.
get the feeling he is making this statement with the intention of backing it up with some proof that it is true. just my feeling
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:? It’s probably not the children who’s doing the bitching.
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Thanks for the tip!! I found the cover!
(http://johnsimondaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-entertainment-weekly-cover-i.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
Imo, many references of MJ comes with past imaes like this because it represents time before the media circus.
Look how dark Michael's hand is on the cover of the book compared to the cover of the magazine. There is a huge difference in coloration between his face and hand. There's also a huge difference in the size of the hand. Or am I just imagining things? I wonder if it means anything?
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Thanks for the tip!! I found the cover!
(http://johnsimondaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-entertainment-weekly-cover-i.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
Imo, many references of MJ comes with past imaes like this because it represents time before the media circus.
Look how dark Michael's hand is on the cover of the book compared to the cover of the magazine. There is a huge difference in coloration between his face and hand. There's also a huge difference in the size of the hand. Or am I just imagining things? I wonder if it means anything?
No, anewfan - you are not imagining it. It does look slightly larger and definitely darker. When I saw it I thought of Dr Murray.
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Thanks for the tip!! I found the cover!
(http://johnsimondaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-entertainment-weekly-cover-i.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
Imo, many references of MJ comes with past imaes like this because it represents time before the media circus.
Look how dark Michael's hand is on the cover of the book compared to the cover of the magazine. There is a huge difference in coloration between his face and hand. There's also a huge difference in the size of the hand. Or am I just imagining things? I wonder if it means anything?
No, anewfan - you are not imagining it. It does look slightly larger and definitely darker. When I saw it I thought of Dr Murray.
A bit like this pic?
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_R1BiF5yJhHM/SkWd5rv1kSI/AAAAAAAAA80/BTGWrSeNNA4/Dr.%20Conrad%20Murray%20is%20the%20cardiologist%20who%20reportedly%20was%20in%20Michael%20Jackson%27s%20Los%20Angeles%20mansion%20when%20the%20entertainer%20collapsed.%5B5%5D.jpg)
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There's also a difference between the shirt's colours in the book and magazine.
It's a lot brighter in the magazine.. :ugeek:
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Another article on Jermaine's court ordered support.
he's "not rich like Michael was"...
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... -pay-80000 (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/04/exclusive-jermaine-jackson-settles-child-support-case-must-pay-80000)
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Thanks for the tip!! I found the cover!
(http://johnsimondaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael-jackson-entertainment-weekly-cover-i.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
Imo, many references of MJ comes with past imaes like this because it represents time before the media circus.
Look how dark Michael's hand is on the cover of the book compared to the cover of the magazine. There is a huge difference in coloration between his face and hand. There's also a huge difference in the size of the hand. Or am I just imagining things? I wonder if it means anything?
No, anewfan - you are not imagining it. It does look slightly larger and definitely darker. When I saw it I thought of Dr Murray.
A bit like this pic?
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_R1BiF5yJhHM/SkWd5rv1kSI/AAAAAAAAA80/BTGWrSeNNA4/Dr.%20Conrad%20Murray%20is%20the%20cardiologist%20who%20reportedly%20was%20in%20Michael%20Jackson%27s%20Los%20Angeles%20mansion%20when%20the%20entertainer%20collapsed.%5B5%5D.jpg)
Yes, Gema, that's it. Although it's the wrong hand they have similar poses with their thumbs. Interesting.
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here are the hands side by side.
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They just photoshopped it to be darker because they want to remember Michael as what he used to be back in time. (?)
Why would it be Murray's hand anyways? :P
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They just photoshopped it to be darker because they want to remember Michael as what he used to be back in time. (?)
Why would it be Murray's hand anyways? :P
Hi - stranger things have happened. Dr Murray is sometimes photographed light and sometimes darker. His hand in his photo is slightly lighter than other pictures of him. I have no idea why they'd use Murray's hand (if they did at all) but anything is possible, I suppose.
It is odd that his hand would be darker in Jermaine's book cover photo than in the original.
Blessings.
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It's simply that one of the pics is darker with less color. Besides that, they're identical.
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Still, the use of 80´s pics of Michael intrigues me. Even the album Michael shows an 80´s Michael.
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here are the hands side by side.
The thumb nails look just the same to me. But, we know, Michael's didn't look that way anymore as he aged and his skin got lighter.
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@jermjackson5 I worry bout the way @wingheart Karen Faye is feeling atm. Plz help her c MJ fans love her 4 her cause she was true to MJ?
about 4 hours ago via web
@SonjaMilliken Karen is strong & wise enough. She doesn't need to justify her true closeness to Michael. He knew it. Nothing else matters
about 4 hours ago via web in reply to SonjaMilliken
If anyone understands this, feel free to say, because to me, Jermaine's extreme support of Karen is beyond my comprehension, considering how she bashed and probably still bashes people like crazy, and how she acts like an adolescent over Michael and you know the rest.
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@jermjackson5 I worry bout the way @wingheart Karen Faye is feeling atm. Plz help her c MJ fans love her 4 her cause she was true to MJ?
about 4 hours ago via web
@SonjaMilliken Karen is strong & wise enough. She doesn't need to justify her true closeness to Michael. He knew it. Nothing else matters
about 4 hours ago via web in reply to SonjaMilliken
If anyone understands this, feel free to say, because to me, Jermaine's extreme support of Karen is beyond my comprehension, considering how she bashed and probably still bashes people like crazy, and how she acts like an adolescent over Michael and you know the rest.
I do not get why of a sudden he wants to protect Karen Fake person. Didn't he read the things she wrote about the family? I do not believe that he's protecting Fake to keep his enemy closer. Why would they need her? I do not get this family any more. :roll:
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I do not get why of a sudden he wants to protect Karen Fake person. Didn't he read the things she wrote about the family? I do not believe that he's protecting Fake to keep his enemy closer. Why would they need her? I do not get this family any more. :roll:
I agree...
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I think this is all part of the plan. After watching Karen's fake cry because she had to do his make-up when he died, I knew she must be acting. There also was no dead body to begin with, so where does her story come from? Either that or she is completely delusional, which I doubt.
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I think this is all part of the plan. After watching Karen's fake cry because she had to do his make-up when he died, I knew she must be acting. There also was no dead body to begin with, so where does her story come from? Either that or she is completely delusional, which I doubt.
So do you think she knows MJ is alive?
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I think this is all part of the plan. After watching Karen's fake cry because she had to do his make-up when he died, I knew she must be acting. There also was no dead body to begin with, so where does her story come from? Either that or she is completely delusional, which I doubt.
So do you think she knows MJ is alive?
Yes, or someone really fooled her. How can she do make-up of a corpse that doesn't exsist? And would Karen be fooled by a dummy or double, after being his make-up artist for so long? Sounds strange to me.
The only way she doesn't know, if when she was asked to tell people she did his make-up, while she never did. I don't know what the purpose of that would be, but it's a possibility.
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Again
@jermjackson5 "if she wants to believe she was close to him,then it's ok"- Dileo about Karen Faye.Don't u feel bad to say such things,Jerm?
about 9 hours ago via web in reply to jermjackson5
@_Catherine1969_ i can only account for what my brother told me, not others. I'm sorry if you can't accept that
about 2 hours ago via web in reply to _Catherine1969_
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Jermaine just tweeted he was on the phone with a publisher in London. He wonders about it being sunny there and could "here."
My first thought: Oh, Dodo (who now is also in London) is Jermaine's publisher... :lol:
England is a busy place these days...
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I believe that Karen somehow is involved in the hoax. To be honest I don't know what to think about her, it's a feeling I have. Just like Conrad Murray is the fall guy I get the impression she is the one who has to stir things up, maybe to confuse , but why, I can only guess. We all know Michael loves the controversy and to shock people, so that could be one of his reasons.(http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq147/ligotgaspar/emoticon/mw_hmmm.gif)
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I think this is all part of the plan. After watching Karen's fake cry because she had to do his make-up when he died, I knew she must be acting. There also was no dead body to begin with, so where does her story come from? Either that or she is completely delusional, which I doubt.
So do you think she knows MJ is alive?
Yes, or someone really fooled her. How can she do make-up of a corpse that doesn't exsist? And would Karen be fooled by a dummy or double, after being his make-up artist for so long? Sounds strange to me.
The only way she doesn't know, if when she was asked to tell people she did his make-up, while she never did. I don't know what the purpose of that would be, but it's a possibility.
Maybe she made the make-up to a wax dummy that looks exactly like Michael. I do not know the name of it but the ones which are used in movies as a corpse look exactly like human body. It is so hard to understand the difference btw a real dead body and a wax dummy (or whatever its name is).
OR
She's simply lying and the family didn't want to say that she was lying about it because that would make the hoax become more obvious. They let her go with her lie for the dramatic structure of the film. ;) I can hardly believe she knows about the hoax because she wrote really terrible things to believers like "You'll be dead waiting 4 him" about waiting for Mj to come back and so many more.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CwhZBhlsL._SS500_.jpg)
That jacket Michael is wearing is from the Victory Tour (Kansas?). I tried to find that pic but can´t right now, anyway, I remember that pic of Michael. To me, his eyes look maturer on the book cover.
I noticed a lot of emphasis in Michael´s eyes lately. If he ever comes back, the eyes would not lie and would be the key to know if it´s him or a fake.
the eyes are the window to the soul
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
All other brother accounts authentic, as verified. Except Marlon. He don't tweet (unless he's singing backgrounds!)
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Jermaine tweeted this today (april 6)... so is he saying that Michael Jackson's account is really Michael's? Michael's account is verified. Who is behind Michael's account if he is supposed to be dead?
So the only unverified account is Marlon's -- hmmm
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This is ridiculous. So after all this time they realise a staff member is impersonating Marlon?
Jermaine is idiot or he's just not aware Marlon took the account and changed it to his name. Jodi Gomez confirmed it's Marlon's account. They would have noticed until now and most probably say it
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jermjackson5 to clarify: we stopped tweeting under @alljack5ons post-reality show. That account's change of name to @Marlon_Jackson is not him/authentic
ermjackson5 @DebbieforMJ I know Marlon remains the most puzzled by it all! ; )
I'm speaking with Marlon so we can clear up this time-wasting nonsense...
Folks, some clarity: spoke with Marlon. He's "going to start using" @Marlon_Jackson. He never used it before, he will start now...
and Marlon is signing with Marlon sr when he tweets.
I don't think it was him all this time but I do think it was possibly another Jackson,they all followed it apart from Jermaine,and its been set up since 2009 so there is no way they would allow anyone to just tweet as a Jackson all this time...if it wasn't someone who was verified to do so by the family.
Maybe Jermaine missed the memo LOL
In other JJ news though...
HannahVRose Hannah Grant
@jermjackson5 your amazing brother loved practical jokes! As its april fools,what was one of his favourites!? Love you. X
1 Apr
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Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@HannahVRose yes ; ) stink bombs & water balloons were Michael's usual weaponry...
Like the 'Yes ;)' from Jermaine there...haha
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maybe someone should see if marlon jr. has been using it. way too many mj's now :D
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@jermjackson5 @msirismg i'll rephrase: cover won't change, but your photo idea is uncanny for another reason...you'll see ; ) G'night all
16 Apr
@jermjackson5
@msirismg you're sweet. all I'll say is: don't judge a book by its cover. all is not what it seems ; )
Earlier tweets about the cover
@UNITED4MJLEGACY but Michael's image dominates. As it should. Because it's no "tell-all"...it's about respect & honour #samepage
Jermaine Jackson
@blttrox the fine people at @TouchstoneBooks are still working on the US cover. it will be different...
In reply to why the cover of his book has Michael on with half of his face covered up...so it'll be different but rephrased it won't but it's a big secret lol.
The woman he is tweeting back to,apparently sketched up a new book cover how she thinks it should look,with a new title 'you WERE not alone' not you ARE not alone here are most of her tweets regarding JJs book.The twitpic has indeed been deleted so we will never know what she sketched but she is obviously a non believer from her saying that ^ you were not alone #confused
Read from bottom back up-they are in reverse order straight from tweetland.
msirismg
@jermjackson5 Well, OK, I'll trust wait & see! LOL
msirismg
OK well, I won't leave that twitpic up - mission accomplished I guess! lol
msirismg
And it's 2am in the Southern Plains...good Lord
msirismg
@jermjackson5 AWESOME! I was hoping you wouldn't let it go the way they had it! I feel better now! Goodnight!
msirismg
@Mimi_La_Reina But it's all personal preference, I guess. I like a clean look. That cover they've got...why would you cover MJ's face?!
msirismg
@Mimi_La_Reina I think MY design would make ppl want to pull this book & look at it! lol http://twitpic.com/4lfszh (http://twitpic.com/4lfszh)
msirismg
Now if I were designing Jerm's book? Isn't this more appealing? Makes you wanna pull it off the shelf & say "aw"! http://twitpic.com/4lfszh (http://twitpic.com/4lfszh)
msirismg
@Mimi_La_Reina I was a graphic artist for 15 years!
msirismg
@Mimi_La_Reina Girl I didn't even know all that other crap was going on with that "united" person! I was just talking graphic design! lmao
msirismg
@jermjackson5 I'm looking forward 2 ur book - just wish they didn't make it so ugly that's all! lol Want it to stand out..
msirismg
@jermjackson5 Oh crap, I hope u don't associate me w/those other folk, I was just talking book design Wasn't questioning content. So sorry!
Er yeah?you just spent an hour slagging his book off???LOL
msirismg
Wow, the more I think about Jermaine Jackson's book the more depressed I get. But, maybe since more people use Kindles it won't matter.
msirismg
Horrors! Maybe it's going to be published as a paperback!
msirismg
This is Michael Jackson we're talking about, after all!
msirismg
I'm going to sketch out what I think would've been the cover. AND the title!
msirismg
I'm only a former graphic designer - I don't understand the book industry! But a lot of those cover design decisions don't make sense...
msirismg Iris M. Gross
You know now I think of it the title of Jermaine's book sucks, too! They should have said, "You WERE not alone"! #confused
msirismg
Ooh, I know what would have been the perfect cover for Jermaine Jackson's new book. It's supposed to be about he & Mike, right?
msirismg
@jermjackson5 It's the INSIDE that really counts, right? It'll be fine! Fingers crossed...
msirismg
@jermjackson5 oh well Jerms don't mind me - I was in GD, I notice stuff like that. Most who buy it will probably download it anyway.
msirismg
@jermjackson5 I guess if the promo has begun on it it's too late, but I sure wish they'd redesign the cover! Not compelling & looks cheap.
msirismg
Look at all the classic bios/autobios & see how they're designed. A book cover should be compelling! Jerm's book looks like a billboard.
msirismg
From a graphic design standpoint, the cover of Jermaine's new book is a disaster! Why would you cover up Michael Jackson's face?!
msirismg
@jermjackson5 They shouldve just used MJs feet w/the glittering socks, simple black bkgd, Authors name (Jerm - lol) bigger/more elegant txt
msirismg Iris M. Gross
@jermjackson5 I wish they couldve given your book better cover art. They may as wellve made it all text - & who wrote the book you or MJ lol
She talks to Jermaine like she has a right to say whatever she wants about his book,he never even got mad at her for slagging it off!she actually talks to most of the Jacksons/and friends so can't make out who she is or thinks she is,deffo a non believer though.
I think it's odd she brings up repeatedly about his face being covered,because it is odd,and the book cover does look cheap and it doesn't look professional or appealing so if JJ has waited all this time to publish a book Michael had already 'approved' lol 'pre death' then why let it out with such a whack cover?
She goes on about being a graphic designer too like it's got something to do with being able to say whatever she wants in regards to Jermaine,and his book.
Very bizzare.
His tweets back are just as cryptic.
Why IS his face covered...on almost everything..this book,the behind the mask website before it launched was the album cover from Michael but only his head down to his nose,which is also much like the Dangerous album cover.
Isn't it part of what gave the 02 guy away too...his mouth missing the scar and not being Michael's..
It's too late/early for all this :shock:
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Also, this tweet of his was interesting:
@msirismg you're sweet. all I'll say is: don't judge a book by its cover. all is not what it seems ; )
*I edited your post because that picture wasn't what the woman in question twitpic'd she sketched one herself of Michael and Jermaine.That picture was sent to people in DMs by a MJJ associated account because I got it.
S xo
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Thank you for sharing this information. That person is very rude - it doesn't matter what her calling in life is. She should show more respect but I have to give Jermaine credit for being a true gentleman with her.
His words say it all to me. This book is a continuation of showing the world the real Michael Jackson as well as cleaning his image and bringing back some respect that he deserves. The fact that his face is hidden...well, I think it's because he's really behind this book or perhaps it's because we don't really know the real person, Michael Jackson.
It still baffles me that they use this picture but it is pre-scandal Michael so maybe they are bringing back a remembrance of who Michael is. I really question the fact that the book comes out later this year and we're hoping Michael comes back by this summer. Would people still buy the book if Michael comes back first? Just something that keeps confusing me in this timeline. Blessings.
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Thank you for sharing this information. That person is very rude - it doesn't matter what her calling in life is. She should show more respect but I have to give Jermaine credit for being a true gentleman with her.
His words say it all to me. This book is a continuation of showing the world the real Michael Jackson as well as cleaning his image and bringing back some respect that he deserves. The fact that his face is hidden...well, I think it's because he's really behind this book or perhaps it's because we don't really know the real person, Michael Jackson.
It still baffles me that they use this picture but it is pre-scandal Michael so maybe they are bringing back a remembrance of who Michael is. I really question the fact that the book comes out later this year and we're hoping Michael comes back by this summer. Would people still buy the book if Michael comes back first? Just something that keeps confusing me in this timeline. Blessings.
Exactly Voice. I agree with you about the purpose of this book.
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ITA with both of you. Btw- this person is horribly rude- for no reason. I just tweeted back that things never seem to be what they appear and she got all snooty. I have this extreme reaction against rude people - ESP when totally uncalled for. I asked J if it was the final cover and he nicely tweeted back- yes, final UK cover. So, wonder if the US cover will be different.
(That b... person tweeted- well check the tweet from 4/16 - final means final- I wanted to cyberslap her)
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Also, this tweet of his was interesting:
@msirismg you're sweet. all I'll say is: don't judge a book by its cover. all is not what it seems ; )
*I edited your post because that picture wasn't what the woman in question twitpic'd she sketched one herself of Michael and Jermaine.That picture was sent to people in DMs by a MJJ associated account because I got it.
S xo
if you got the picture in a PM then can you share and post it please?
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Also, this tweet of his was interesting:
@msirismg you're sweet. all I'll say is: don't judge a book by its cover. all is not what it seems ; )
*I edited your post because that picture wasn't what the woman in question twitpic'd she sketched one herself of Michael and Jermaine.That picture was sent to people in DMs by a MJJ associated account because I got it.
S xo
if you got the picture in a PM then can you share and post it please?
No,NOT the picture Jermaine was tweeting over,another one of a random unknown drunk guy which has absolutley nothing to do with anything.I haven't seen the twitpic she posted because she deleted it in a matter of mins.I said this in my earlier post...
How can this of become so confusing in a matter of a few posts :/
The woman above-Iris tweeting at JJ,sketched her own pic,uploaded,posted,then removed it.JJ has said her idea wasn't far off,but we don't know because it's now gone.
Maybe someone should ask her for it?
xo
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Also, this tweet of his was interesting:
@msirismg you're sweet. all I'll say is: don't judge a book by its cover. all is not what it seems ; )
*I edited your post because that picture wasn't what the woman in question twitpic'd she sketched one herself of Michael and Jermaine.That picture was sent to people in DMs by a MJJ associated account because I got it.
S xo
Oh- really- how very odd.... Just when I thought this could not get weirder. Shaking my head. Thanks for letting me know.
At times my head just stays in a spin. Do you have the sketch- or can you describe it? This is SO curious...
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Is it possible Jermaine has made another slip-up?
https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
Read from bottom up
Michael's legacy is as humanitarian
as it is musical. Mother is happy that has the chance to continue the spirit of his true heart about 1 hour ago via web
Reply Retweet . @TeamJackieJaxn5 HTWF = Heal The World Foundation that we hope will now reactivate the truest principals of Michael's HTW philosophy
about 2 hours ago via web in reply to TeamJackieJaxn5
Reply Retweet . Also be assured that I meant to write 'HTWF' ; )
about 2 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet . Be assured, Mother is at the helm of a re-formed HWTF that can become worthy of its founding intentions. Let's look forwards, not backwards
Michael's ultimate wish was to re-assert control if ever control was lost in any situation. Control is now re-established re HTWF...
about 2 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet. Mother is also guided by private discussions with Michael. Trust me, a mother knows her son...better than anyone (inc executors) about 2 hours ago via web
Reply Retweeted (Undo) . I've long understood that fans are fiercely & rightly protective of the good work Michael did -- as we all are... about 2 hours ago via web
Reply Retweet . The realities & legalities of a complex situation re certain manouevrings on HTWF were never as cut & dry as some wished them to be...
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Thanks finfin - Jermaine could be meaning that in a spiritual way or the fact that she knows Michael's intentions.
I'm not sure if it's a slip up or not but I'm really, really excited about HTWF going back under Michael's Estate and control. This foundation is his vision and it didn't feel right that someone else was managing it.
I truly believe that Michael is on a total TAKEOVER, as BACK said, and this is only a small , but very important part of what Michael is all about. Okay - we check this off our our list.
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reactivate
re-formed
re-assert
re-established re HTWF
re certain
Do you think it means something? I don't know but while reading those tweets this jumped out at me. Maybe nothing...
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reactivate
re-formed
re-assert
re-established re HTWF
re certain
Do you think it means something? I don't know but while reading those tweets this jumped out at me. Maybe nothing...
ahh I wish he also wrote re-born. that would be something for sure. :D
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reactivate
re-formed
re-assert
re-established re HTWF
re certain
Do you think it means something? I don't know but while reading those tweets this jumped out at me. Maybe nothing...
Great eye, Sarahli - you could very well be correct. We'll need to watch a little closer for other words that could connect the dots. Blessings.
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Is it possible Jermaine has made another slip-up?
https://twitter.com/jermjackson5 (https://twitter.com/jermjackson5)
Reply Retweet. Mother is also guided by private discussions with Michael. Trust me, a mother knows her son...better than anyone (inc executors) about 2 hours ago via web
I think all of his Tweet-Tweet(s) (Rockin' Robin) were interesting, but the one above is Spot on. Of course it means that Mrs. J is GUIDED by MJ. I mean, he is alive and speaks to his mother regularly. I mean, how can he be alive and not speak to her and guide her? He is the one guiding her with everything including his children. MJ is able to come and go to Havenhurst and elsewhere on a drop of a dime. He is way smart. He knows which disguises to use when and where ever he goes. He's got it down pat.
Michael's mother is GUIDED by private conversations with her son. How clearer can one be? I was astounded to read that. What is the spiritual stuff? What does that mean? Does it mean that she thinks about her "dead" son and then asks him to tell her what he wants her to do? I don't think so.
I love it! Jermaine is something else. After all, he is also courageous and confident just like his baby bro. I think he was the only brother that MJ must have thought could have pulled off the "death announcement." I think Thome-Thome might have been MJ and his presence on the stage may have helped Jermaine. He has a lot of nerve like our Michael. Randy is too bullheaded and stubborn and he don't take no stuff. Tito seems a little too laid back and might have gotten tongue tied. Jackie would have cried. Marlon would have made a joke and laughed out loud. Lol So, Jermaine it was.
Way to go Jermaine. Keep them coming.
I am going to research to see if people that make themselves up in disguises can clue hair on arms or whatever. In one picture it didn't look as if Thome had hair on arms, and then in another, he had it. Hmmmmmmmmm
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
we share the same frustrations in seeing the trial delayed until Sept -- it is a hindrance not a set-back
17 hours ago
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
our focus remains on the horizon where we see justice, not the clocks on the wall. thank you for your prayers & support
16 hours ago
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheMJPlace agreed -- to ignore defense request for time would play into the hands of any future appeal if convicted
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He is so cryptic sometimes then totally gives it away other times
Bipolar JJ
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...
32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all
WHAT IS THIS???????????????? pale/
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...
32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all
WHAT IS THIS???????????????? pale/
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Remember Souza said the family will be attacking the hoax near the end...now one of them are
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Remember Souza said this;
viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18697&p=322480&hilit=+attack+hoax#p322480 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18697&p=322480&hilit=+attack+hoax#p322480)
There seems to be a lot of "fraud" or something going on with the Jackson family lately. We hear about Katherine supposedly saying Branca stole from Michael, now she's denying it. And we have Jermaine saying Marlon's twitter isn't Marlon, but then Tito says it is. A bunch of mini-hoaxes near the end of the big hoax? Get people thinking "something is rotten in the state of denmark" or something along those lines? Whatever it is, people besides us believers must be noticing something is going on...and the trial hasn't even started yet! Smart planning really, even more people will be likely to tune into the trial on TV out of curiousity and that's when they'll really notice something is amiss.
Same thought here. Maybe the family will start to attack the hoax forums soon too, to bring attention to them. Just thinking out loud here, doesn't mean they will, but it's a possibility. If the hoax is near the end, they could do that.
Does it mean you have to shut it down, if they retaliate?
No, I don't believe they would force me to shut it down at all, I think they might tweet something about it to draw attention to it. It's possible. On the other hand I think most fans know we exsist, so maybe the Jacksons 'attacking' the hoax forums would only cause a lot of drama. I don't know, just thinking out loud here since stuff is on a role these days and many more contradictions show up.
@Andrea: agreed. That is also a HUGE clue that he's alive.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...
32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all
WHAT IS THIS???????????????? pale/
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Remember Souza said the family will be attacking the hoax near the end...now one of them are
He says that we are not supposed hurt ourselves, HE SAYS THAT NOW. 2 YEARS! 2 YEARS ! 2 YEARS! AND ONLY NOW HE REALIZED THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE US? WHAT A JOKE? IF THERE WAS NO HOAX, THEY WOULD STOP IT RIGHT THERE IN JULY 2009!!!
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...
32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all
WHAT IS THIS???????????????? pale/
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
i was just about to post that. that being said, i think he's being bothered by a lot of questions regarding the hoax. lets face it here, do you honestly think he would come right out and say "yep yep, there's some truth to the fact the this might be a hoax"? obviously not. don't panic. i believe that he has notice people are complaining the fact that the family seems too quiet about not answering anything hoax related. if that's the case, i want him to say that teddy riley is a a poser and he is lying. lolol/ joe did address it too. so no worries bearhug well at least i'm not. shamone! michael-jackson/
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What's going on????
A lot of people pissed off with TS, trial was delayed, now Jermain says that we are stupid believing in HOAX. For the last 3 days i was UP and DOWN, UP and DOWN and all of that at the same time :evil: suspicious// :D :shock: :x :evil: :twisted: :lol: :mrgreen:
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shamone! michael-jackson/
That made me laugh so hard! :lol: :lol: Thank you! bearhug
You see, i need help lolol/ or just do this crash/
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He also retweeted Piers Morgan:
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Winston Churchill.
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shamone! michael-jackson/
That made me laugh so hard! :lol: :lol: Thank you! bearhug
You see, i need help lolol/ or just do this crash/
lolol/ no problem. and you shouldn't be scared. i'm usually a person that gives up hope but for whatever reason, i've stuck to my guts and i really really believe that teddy riley is genuine and truthful. keep the faith honey.
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He also retweeted Piers Morgan:
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Winston Churchill.
I saw that yesterday as well! And i was like "what's that supposed to mean?"
And now i know. geek/
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Would be fun if TMZ would pick this up: "BeLIEvers pissed off at Jermaine Jackson"
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Would be fun if TMZ would pick this up: "BeLIEvers pissed off at Jermaine Jackson"
I had the same thought myself when I read Jermaine's tweets and went to TMZ to see if there was an article on it...you know like the article they did ages ago about the "fake" Dr Murray twitter account...lol
Why now suddenly decide to address the hoax after almost 2 years? Waaayyyy too coincidental. mj_dance/
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He sent private messages to a believer telling her "I told the truth. It saddnes me you cannot accept it. You're only denying your chanse to mourn and heal"
Why would he say it on private if it wasn't true
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He sent private messages to a believer telling her "I told the truth. It saddnes me you cannot accept it. You're only denying your chanse to mourn and heal"
Why would he say it on private if it wasn't true
My heart breaks apart!!! :cry:
She also did ask him a lot of questions regarding their behavior and all the weird things that's been going on, but he never answered. Well she still BELIEVES and that's what i will do as well! We can't forget all the clues and messed up things, just because Jermain said so. They never told us that Michael is alive, so i guess nothing's changed!
GOD PLEASE HELP US! bow/ GIVE US A SIGN! bow/
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He sent private messages to a believer telling her "I told the truth. It saddnes me you cannot accept it. You're only denying your chanse to mourn and heal"
Why would he say it on private if it wasn't true
This is why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvOkgnJhQ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvOkgnJhQ4)
".....I'm gonna look around a little bit...play with them.....snap my fingers maybe then.......BAM"
Jermaine is in on this with his brother Michael ....BIGTIME!
Keep the faith hun...there has been alot worse happen these 2 years to shake our belief that MJ is alive....
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it's the first time... when a jackson addresses to believers. this changes everyting too much.he could have shut up and ignore it... instead he chose to even DM a believer to say Michael is dead. why on private? he could have said it on public, as well as he said we are misinformed by out denial. he said that via private message.
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Keep the faith hun...there has been alot worse happen these 2 years to shake our belief that MJ is alive....
No, there weren't. I mean no one from the family ever addressed the hoax till today. You know that...
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Until now i believed that if the family is bothered by the hoax rumours they would mention it. Now this actually happened. It's like they tell us to move on, but is it because Michael is really dead or is it because he is not planning to come back? I still believe Michael is alive but I am very confused right now, i don't know what's Jermaine's message for believers but i think there is one, because the family could have just ignored us like before. Is Jermaine's message real or does he want to depress us with no reason? No matter the answer, something has changed.
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I just had a thought.
Maybe it's for Michael's enemies, maybe that's why he wants to prove that Michael is really dead? errrr
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Kristina, why after 2 years? :(
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Kristina, why after 2 years? :(
Maybe some serious people were trying to find his location or something. I don't know! I'm lost!!!
He should better say that his twitter was hacked argue/
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WELL knock me down with a feather....
Has he just had some sort of epiphany and decided to address this after almost 2yrs when the whole belief of the hoax has been rife around the world since June 26th 2009....
This forum/one before it and others have existed since 2009,what can he possibly think will be achieved by telling people they are wrong to believe.
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It's not suddenly out of nowhere. Yesterday I was watching what people were twitting to Jermaine and someone told him to please help and stop the lie, to address the hoax and put the rumor to rest. They twitted this forum's link and asked him to join them in taking it down for respect to Michael.
And he addressed us.
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Still, he could have just shut up, like before.
I've seen tweets to him about this forum before and he chose to ignore.
Maybe he was provoked, but this is not the first time in 2 years.
This is the first mention about the hoax from the Jacksons , i am sure there's gotta be a message. Just not sure how to "read" it for now. Or maybe there's nothing to interpret. :(
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It is out of nowhere,he has never addressed this side of things so directly- until now.No Jackson has.
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I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way
This is why in 2 years he didn't say anything addressed to our belief..
He believed this would fade out by itself.
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if he told the truth this family is evil and sick.
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Maybe the hoax was real but the way we understood it was wrong. Maybe Michael never planned to come back. This is the best i can see in Jermaine's message.
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Until now i believed that if the family is bothered by the hoax rumours they would mention it. Now this actually happened. It's like they tell us to move on, but is it because Michael is really dead or is it because he is not planning to come back? I still believe Michael is alive but I am very confused right now, i don't know what's Jermaine's message for believers but i think there is one, because the family could have just ignored us like before. Is Jermaine's message real or does he want to depress us with no reason? No matter the answer, something has changed.
Jermaine must be joking.
There were tones of messages to him in the last 2 years about MJ's faked death and he never said anything.
I myself sent the brothers a message where I asked them :"if Michael is alive, please tell him we love and support him"
I am sure I was not the only one who did that.
If Mj was dead they should have stopped the rumors back then, not trying to say something now.
If this is a sting operation the family has to mentain the illusion. afraid/ crash/ bow/
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Let's say for a sting operation this message could be useful. ( i don't believe FBI is in but i take this as a possibility in this context, for a reason to explain the tweet) It's still not fit. It should have been made a serious official statement, from the Jackson family, a long time ago. I am sure they can figure the "target" is not buying this message now from some tweets.
That's why i still think the target is us , believers, and not FBI related. Now i am not sure if he really means it, if he we really must move on with Michael dead or alive or if we simply should stop discussing the hoax because it's not helpful for "anyone". We can choose to ignore Jermaine's tweet or we can try to figure out what was his hidden message if there was one and if this message isn't in fact as seems- to move on. And if the message is indeed to go on with our lives , then is this Michaels' message or Jermaine's?
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This person created her account on twitter only yesterday, and Jermain responded to her right away! Here are all of her tweets!
http://twitter.com/#!/_Vera60_ (http://twitter.com/#!/_Vera60_)
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @MRBerganti @jermjackson5 Why do you say that NOW only???
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @Natasha_BeLIEve @JermJackson5 and you need them
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @Natasha_BeLIEve @JermJackson5 I give you an advice, if you'll see it. Don't address this anymore till BAM's day. u'll lose these people
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @Natasha_BeLIEve @JermJackson5 More than 1.000.000 individual hits on Michael Jackso Hoax Forum/ month can't be wrong
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @Natasha_BeLIEve @JermJackson5 More than 320.000 posts on Michael Jackson Hoax Forum for 22 months can't be wrong
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @Natasha_BeLIEve @JermJackson5 4657 registered people on Michael Jackson Hoax forum can't be wrong
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JacksonsFan_Rob @jermjackson5 So jermaine,u couldnt be more obvious bro.After 22 months 2 finally address the HUGE community of hoaxers
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JacksonsFan_Rob @jermjackson5 You could have said it from July 2009 but no, because you need us.
3 hours ago
KINGDOM52 Vasillia
by _Vera60_@
@julianaka Idk...maybe bc fans started to seriously wonder why family hasnt said anything for hoaxers. And he had to say smg.
5 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JulietMJ_ALIVE @jermjackson5 Michael IS alive
3 hours ago
Natasha_BeLIEve Natasha
by _Vera60_
RT!!!!!! @JermJackson5 @KINGDOM52 Isnt he the one who changed the lyrics of SMILE in a very convienent way ?
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT RT RT RT @JermJackson5 @KINGDOM52 Isnt Jermaine the one who made the BEST slip ups ? Isnt he the one who talked as spokeperson of UCLA
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JermJackson5 @KINGDOM52 Isnt Jermaine the one who made the BEST slip ups ? Isnt he the one who talked as spokeperson of UCLA
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JulietMJ_ALIVE @jermjackson5 THIS IS THE END OF THE BEGINNING like Jermaine said 2 days ago.
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JermJackson5 @IlaryMJJ Why are people so weak? Really so few fucking words are enough to knock you down!?#NeverStopBelieving
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @nikky_nikkyta @jermjackson5 Jermaine, why not to have said before? Why all these words, incoherence? Indications?
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @nikky_nikkyta @jermjackson5 Why to have let with believe two years and launch us that now, as a snake spits its poison? Why
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @lenou941 @jermjackson5 in my opinion the list is long! the beLIEvers are not crazy!!! their eyes are open!!!
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @esprit467 @jermjackson5 Do you really mean this? If it is true, it is alright. If not, you know, that the world breaks down many?
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @believelovemj @jermjackson5 I'm sorry, but it is so difficult and there are so many strange events in his death
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @platinumpapi @jermjackson5 ate u sure he's not alive?
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JulietMJ_ALIVE @jermjackson5 Jermaine said on June 25th 2009 that his brother, the Legendary King of Pop died.The legendary King of Pop?
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @StacyMJxx @jermjackson5 It's been 2 years Jerm...You can answer a few questions that seem to confusing the fans.
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JulietMJ_ALIVE @jermjackson5 This trial is a smokescreen, everything is twisted, don't believe the garbage
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JulietMJ_ALIVE @jermjackson5 Please don't spread hate, it's not about this!
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @marbina64 @jermjackson5 ....put up evidence that michael is really dead....i don`t have seen any proofs.....:-((
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JacksonsFan_Rob @jermjackson5 The end is near! people gather together and arm yourself up. THE KING IS RETURNING
3 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @_SoniaMJFan_ @jermjackson5 You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all.You ignored us for 22 months
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @_LonelyRoad_ @jermjackson5 you KNOW that the very first thing that appears on google when u search michael is DEATH HOAX
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @daniela7979 @jermjackson5 it's you to hurt us! after almost 24 months? why you talk now? you all know who we are!is it all for money?
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @daniela7979 @jermjackson5 what about teddy? do you know what teddy said? and what are you Waiting to say to him LIAR?
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @esprit467 @jermjackson5 is now a very bad situation for us. Everything we hoped for and worked for, should now only be a misinformation?
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @MJMannou7 @jermjackson5 Why yet? After 2 years??? What's the reason? :(((((
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @JadeHealTWorld @jermjackson5 I just can only tell u that all this madness had to stopped much much time ago and not after 2YEARS
4 hours ago
JadeHealTWorld JadeHealTWorld
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@jermjackson5 I just can only tell u that all this madness had to stopped much much time ago and not after 2YEARS
5 hours ago
imbluewithoutu Andrea
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@jermjackson5 Jermaine, you left me speechless... :(
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @legendliveson @jermjackson5 tweeted about the death hoax!
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @SuSieBeLIEves @jermjackson5 I wanted to die along with michael, why did none of u seem to feel the pain I felt!
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @kouliomj @jermjackson5 you had the opportunity to prevent people from falling into denial. it sufficed to say that before...
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @Eugenie_A @jermjackson5 Oh boy! Are you aware Jermaine of what you are doing?Michael's Lovers & Believers ar not pawns on a chessboard!
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
RT @iPoriel @jermjackson5: Michael is still alive.
4 hours ago
iPoriel Maxime Poriel
by _Vera60_
@jermjackson5: Michael is still alive.
4 hours ago
Eugenie_A EugenieA
by _Vera60_@
@jermjackson5 Oh boy! Are you aware Jermaine of what you are doing? Michael's Lovers & Believers are not pawns on a chessboard! It's a shame
4 hours ago
kouliomj richard z
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@jermjackson5 you had the opportunity to prevent people from falling into denial. it sufficed to say that before...
4 hours ago
SuSieBeLIEves Susie
by _Vera60_@
@jermjackson5 I wanted to die along with michael, why did none of u seem to feel the pain I felt! U guys seemed like his death didn't matter
4 hours ago
SuSieBeLIEves Susie
by _Vera60_@
@jermjackson5 all we want is the truth and we won't stop searching for it, Jermaine I can feel it in my heart Michael is not gone.
4 hours ago
mjjseven domi
by _Vera60_@
@jermjackson5 how can one believe that Michael is dead with all the anomalies surrounding his death?
4 hours ago
legendliveson The Legend Lives On
by _Vera60_
@jermjackson5 tweeted about the death hoax!
4 hours ago
mjjseven domi
by _Vera60_@
@jermjackson5 2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful
4 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
@jermjackson5 you always ignored our twitts,always.This was my way of making you address us.I managed to do it.
5 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
@jermjackson5 if you'd said this 2 years ago or at least at the beginning of it all, we probably would've believe u
5 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
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@jermjackson5 it took THIS to make u address us?Well,I'm highly glad that from all the beLIEvers I am the one who succeeded.
5 hours ago
_SoniaMJFan_ SoniaMJFan
by _Vera60_@
@jermjackson5 You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all. You ignored us for 22 months
5 hours ago
_SoniaMJFan_ SoniaMJFan
by _Vera60_
@jermjackson5 Michael is alive and we all know that. If you said this 20 months ago maybe we would have believed you
5 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
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@jermjackson5 well well well jermaine dear.. its so easy to make u do our game. I'm,sad I didn't think about this earlier.thanks.GAME TIME!
5 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
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@jermjackson5 WHY didn't you tell us?
5 hours ago
ThinkaNorden ThinkaNorden
by _Vera60_
@jermjackson5 Hope you answer _SoniaMJFan_ and _Vera60_ to their questions ... I'm waiting for a clarifying answer:) much love from Norway:)
21 hours ago
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 Love you
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 in case they want to get in touch with you,to confirm it
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 addressed to the host of the forum and give him your twitter names
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 I wil start today to talk with the involved ppl,I will fill a claim
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 stop http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php)
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 stop them to trash Michael,at least now.
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 I hope what I told u to not remain like this.Please...
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson @JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 love u all so much and thank you for being here
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson i don't know what else i could think if you don't take measures.I don't have what else to think
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson if you allow this even now when i let you know about it,it means you simply don't care about Michael
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson You love Michael, so take the stand and do something against that hateful,horrible dissrespectful site
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson i know that law allows you to end ANY activity that dissrespects a human,or race or anything
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php) This needs to be closed
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson it's not possible that you who are his brothers to allow this anymore.it lasts for almost 2 years
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson you tell me what to do.you can stop it if you want.they say MJ is alive,please check the site i gave u
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson I wanted to talk to you before I go higher in my conviction to stop the forum
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson I am a MJ fan myself and I simply won't allow anybody to make jokes on him
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson how he will return.the forum is HUGE,HUGE,with thousands of people.you have to stop it
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson since 2 years ago they do nothing but ut up theories of how Michael faked his death
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson this is the site. please check it http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php)
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson only ones who can shut it down for dissrespecting Michael.
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson i don't know if you ever saw the site i am talking about but please,go and check it because YOU are the
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson to act so dissrespectful towards him.My stommach cringes when I see what's happening and you have to stop it
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@randyjackson8 @Marlon_Jackson I thought much before telling you,but I have too.You have to stop thousands of people to make fun of Michael
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 i don't know what else i could think if you don't take measures.I don't have what else to think
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 if you allow this even now when i let you know about it,it means you simply don't care about Michael
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 You love Michael, so take the stand and do something against that hateful,horrible dissrespectful site
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 i know that law allows you to end ANY activity that dissrespects a human,or race or anything
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php) This needs to be closed
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 it's not possible that you who are his brothers to allow this anymore.it lasts for almost 2 years
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 you tell me what to do.you can stop it if you want.they say MJ is alive,please check the site i gave u
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 I wanted to talk to you before I go higher in my conviction to stop the forum
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 I am a MJ fan myself and I simply won't allow anybody to make jokes on him.
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 how he will return.the forum is HUGE,HUGE,with thousands of people.you have to stop it
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 since 2 years ago they do nothing but ut up theories of how Michael faked his death
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 this is the site. please check it http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/index.php)
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 only ones who can shut it down for dissrespecting Michael.
3 May
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_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 i don't know if you ever saw the site i am talking about but please,go and check it because YOU are the
3 May Favorite Retweet Reply
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 to act so dissrespectful towards him.My stommach cringes when I see what's happening and you have to stop it
3 May
_Vera60_ Vera
@JackieJackson5 @jermjackson5 I thought much before telling you,but I have too.You have to stop thousands of people to make fun of Michael
3 May Favorite Retweet Reply
Very lucky lady!!!!!!!! Vera on Russian means FAITH! ha ha
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GAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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So he addressed to us actually, the questions pointed this forum and our belief.
Thank you so much for taking your time sharing this Kristina.
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So he addressed to us actually, the questions pointed this forum and our belief.
Thank you so much for taking your time sharing this Kristina.
It was a game played by a couple of Believers, they pretended to be our haters, created new accounts for it. And started to tweet non stop to all brothers about this forum (telling how stupid and disrespectful we are) Everything what they said was a BIG FAT LIE about this forum. And Jermain fell into the trap. When they were asking for the answers as believers they were TOTALLY ignored!
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only this one? suspicious// why only this one?
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The fact that the questions were from believers do not make Jermaine tweets less real. It doesn't matter who addressed the questions, believers or believers not.
We should be careful not to fall in our own trap.
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so this was the reason jermaine addressed the believers... a huge pressure.
I don't understand.. it is not the first time people try to force them to address the believers. She looks like she pointed at the forum to let him know about it, and force him to address believers. Then she says she made him do her game as she managed to force him address us. I don't see it as a good sign. Maybe her intentions were good.. but the result (jermaine's twitts) are not what we wanted to hear after 22 months
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only this one? suspicious// why only this one?
There were a lot of them actually, all playing the same role! SoniaMJFan as well and a couple of others!
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so souza has esp?
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so this was the reason jermaine addrssed the believers... a huge pressure.
I don't understand.. it is not the first time people try to force them to address the believers. She looks like she pointed at the forum to let him know about it, and force him to address believers. Then she says she made him do her game as she managed to force him address us. I don't see it as a good sign. Maybe her intentions were good.. but the result (jermaine's twitts) are not what we wanted to hear after 22 month
I agree, the results are tough! The question is. WHY JERMAIN WAS IGNORING THEM WHEN THEY WERE SHOWING THAT THEY ARE BELIEVERS? i know a couple of people on twitter who were bothering Jacksons a lot, all of them believers! And only now when they posed as non believers, pressure worked? I still can't figure Jermain's logic in it? suspicious// and he is the ONLY one who responded?
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It must be that they are needing to draw attention to the hoax because the entire hoax community (and I didn't realize there were more than just us) are not out there in the world causing trouble. We are not at the hearings screaming for him to come back or people to believe. We are no threat. People like us have existed for Elvis forever and no one stops them from their thoughts. What benefit is there to the Jackson's to try to stop/shut us down? They are not losing anything by us believing. There is no harm to them
Therefore, it has to be some benefit to what they do not...wonder what that could be??
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i'm a little dissapointed.
I've seen vera's tweets and they were not too friendly after Jermaine answered.
It's like tell me the truth but when the truth is finally told i say ok you suck, why did you even speak, just shut up.
So a very bad "management" of communication.
Also, this family doesn't owe us anything , it's a little rude to make them guilty for our belief or to expet them to address us. And even when he addresses, after 2 years, look at believers' treatment in twitter. Why would he even want to continue to address us? Whatever he answers, we're still not good. Instead of screaming at Jermaine, we could have said a polite thank you for finally addressing. He really doesn't owe us any kind of comfort. We are the only one responsible for our believes and we chose to wait for Michael since 25th June 2009. And if we feel fooled by some slip ups imaginary or not, it's still our problem and it's the person in the mirror we should shake up. So far Jermaine has never once said Michael was alive.
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But don't you all agree that he/the whole family could have been addressing the believers when the whole thing started? Why allow this huge thing to develop? Because everyone knows about believers, even on twitter I see twitts to jermaine like: God,that hoax forum is pathetic!I'm glad u addressed them/ those people seem to hate Michael and all they do is for attention/ those believers want nothing but get murray innocent of of this!it makes me puke! and so on. They all know about us, everyone knows. Why they didn't end this when it began? why not avoid this to happen? Sorry but they are responsible in part for what's happening because they could have stopped it in time not after almost 2 years
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i'm a little dissapointed.
I've seen vera's tweets and they were not too friendly after Jermaine answered.
It's like tell me the truth but when the truth is finally told i say ok you suck, why did you even speak, just shut up.
So a very bad "management" of communication.
Also, this family doesn't owe us anything , it's a little rude to make them guilty for our belief or to expet them to address us. And even when he addresses, after 2 years, look at believers' treatment in twitter. Why would he even want to continue to address us? Whatever he answers, we're still not good. Instead of screaming at Jermaine, we could have said a polite thank you for finally addressing. He really doesn't owe us any kind of comfort. We are the only one responsible for our believes and we chose to wait for Michael since 25th June 2009. And if we feel fooled by some slip ups imaginary or not, it's still our problem and it's the person in the mirror we should shake up. So far Jermaine has never once said Michael was alive.
I agree that people on twitter were and still are VERY VERY VERY rude to Jermain, that is not good at all!
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But don't you all agree that he/the whole family could have been addressing the believers when the whole thing started? Why allow this huge thing to develop? Because everyone knows about believers, even on twitter I see twitts to jermaine like: God,that hoax forum is pathetic!I'm glad u addressed them/ those people seem to hate Michael and all they do is for attention/ those believers want nothing but get murray innocent of of this!it makes me puke! and so on. They all know about us, everyone knows. Why they didn't end this when it began? why not avoid this to happen? Sorry but they are responsible in part for what's happening because they could have stopped it in time not after almost 2 years
Here is why
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...
He probably thought the hoax will fade out by itself and things will cool down. Since this seemed to never happen, and pressured by the intense amount of questions, he finally decided to address us and TALK. Now we're not satsified anyway,we don't like to hear it. And we also have this "why didn't you talk so far" way of dealing with his message and- all the answers he received on twitter scared me. So full of hate. I understand believers frustration but where is the respect for Michael's family and where is the logic of passing to him the responsability for our believes?
Maybe he even predicted this behaviour, that's why he decided first to let this thing die by itself.
And i don't blame him.
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Let's give Jermain some L.O.V.E! I feel so sorry for him!!! Everybody who has accounts on Twitter let's write something nice to Jermain! It's all for L.O.V.E! Michael will get mad, if we treat his family this way!
Who's with me? Shamoneee my friends! moonwalk_/ Let's go!
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I'M WITH YOU IN THIS! LET'S SHOW HIM BELIEVERS ARE NOT HARASSERS/CRAZY.
And Vera, if you are here on this forum, please stop harassing Jermaine (you and your friends). You're not doing good to this forum in any way.
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This from the guy who made the famous "airport" slip up.
This is going to get worse before it gets better, guys. Better buckle up tight.
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People make mistakes.
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My computer shut down and I lost my entire post crash/
I guess I'll just summarize it here.
I hope that Jermaine or Jackie or any of the other Jacksons will think twice before rushing in to shut this forum down. We have not done anything to disrespect them or Michael. If we've done anything it is to investigate and weed out the lies and inuendos that are rampant in this investigation. We never go out of our way to force or entice or even solicit on any of the believer forums. However, we welcome anyone here who wishes to participate, believers and non-believers alike. We are not idle chatters who sit behind a computer screen all day because we have nothing better to do. We work. We research. We hypothesize and we come to reasonable conclusions. Yes, we have 9 to 5s and we have families, but we make the sacrifice, as Michael did for us, to challenge things that are illogical and misinterpreted in the media with Michael's own words as our guide.
I would hope that the Jacksons understand that what we do is not to disrespect Michael or the Jackson family. It is just the opposite. No one took enough time when Michael was faced with the obstacles that has eventually led to his "death" if that be the case. Now he needs someone to work for his good, to be his voice. We have chosen to be that. It's for a good cause and I hope if they come here that they will give us and all the tireless hours we've vested here, all of our meaningful efforts a chance.
I welcome the Jacksons to come, stay for A while. Look at what we've done here, then make an educated decision on this forum and its purpose. There might be some things here that even they have overlooked that could be useful in this case against those responsible for Michael not being present here today.
Don't do what the media did to Michael and take everything you hear or even see at face value. We never have and we never will. We are not simply hoaxers. We are investigators with a purpose, that purpose being to get to the truth by stripping away all the fluff. I am sure that if given the benefit of the doublt, they will see what we do here is all for love and all for Michael Jackson's good name. We fight for what is right when everyone else has long since conceded.
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If we've done anything it is to investigate and weed out the lies and inuendos that are rampant in this investigation.
Now he needs someone to work for his good, to be his voice. We have chosen to be that.
jermjackson5 - this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one
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If they ask Souza to shut it down she will... which is why I know they won't ask.
Don't worry guys.
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If they ask Souza to shut it down she will... which is why I know they won't ask.
Don't worry guys.
If Michael is gone they will not ask her to shut it down just because it does NO harm to Michael and to anybody. That's why they will never contact her. This forum does no harm if he's gone
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To RK and Bec
I AM STILL A BELIEVER NO MATTER WHAT JERMAINE TWEETS!
I WILL NEVER DOUBT!
I WILL NEVER CRY!
I WILL NEVER FEAR!
I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE!
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To RK and Bec
I AM STILL A BELIEVER NO MATTER WHAT JERMAINE TWEETS!
I WILL NEVER DOUBT!
I WILL NEVER CRY!
I WILL NEVER FEAR!
I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE!
SAME HERE!!!!!
MICHAEL WE LOVE YOU MORE!!!! bearhug
party/
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The trial is delayed AND Jermaine finally adresses the hoax???? Michael has changed the game plan.
I don't think he wants to come back now. Jermaine is just helping him out by denying the hoax and as
far as the trial, now they have to figure out how to make this look real!!
I still think Michael is alive but he has decided to remain in hiding. The trial will probably be fixed in
the Dr's favor of course and all of this will go away...at least that is what they are planning on.
Jermaines tweet really makes me believe that Michael changed his mind. Hope I am wrong! pale/
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If it is something they want to address as a family after all this time-this it will come in the form of an official statement and then it's time to consider packing your hoax bags BUT this came from Jermaine,as Bec said,he is known for his airport slipup and other slipups since 2009-NOT TO MENTION the fact he 100% confirmed Marlon's twitter was not his,it was fake,he had Marlon on the phone who knew nothing and people started to unfollow it and we're fuming about being lied to....and then Tito came along and announced 'btw,it is Marlon's official twitter account' kinda like,ignore Jermaine,he has no clue what he is on about.That was another random outburst.
So,since he is now probably reading this forum-again,I have something to say to him....
Dearest Jermaine,I truly mean this with the utter most respect,we love you but you need to stop confirming things without your family's backing,and doing so on twitter.It isn't helping anyone-fan,friend,supporter,whatever.
It is only increasing the divide between them and creating a war which frankly,I am getting rather bored of/pissed off with.Using twitter to address something so important is reckless and honestly doesn't give it or you much credibility.
You have been wrong before and proven so by your own flesh and blood a few hours after tweeting you knew for sure.
If you have something official to announce,then please do so via an official medium,with one voice-as a family.
With the L.O.V.E J-man,with the L.O.V.E.
PS.Maybe spend more time trying to shut TMZ up who atm,are voting on whether or not your brother is a child molesterer,priorities not fan wars.
and as for Michael-Dude....................................@$!&%!!................really.
That is all.
Lawwwwwwwd,what a mess.
'The less you know, the more you #believe. - Bono'
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Maybe this is important to us only :?
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Maybe this is important to us only :?
afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ afraid/
MAYBE HE DID IT SO THAT HATERS WILL LEAVE US ALONE????!!!!!!!!!!
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Karen Faye
On Wednesday 4th May 2011, @wingheart said:
I have been trying to tell them that for almost 2 years now. Pearl Jr. is even scamming the fans out of their $, making them buy her hoax. Thank you, for your statement. It has also made me sad, hearing of fans being conned into this. RT @jermjackson5: it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
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Yeah....thought she'd stick her massive ugly nose into it at the first opportunity.
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Perhaps we should consider that hoax purpose is to be "dead" for those that MJ hoaxes from. Revealing, proving hoax, "increasing hoax talks" IS NOT good for Michael. Maybe that's what Jermain means. BTW, I have said this also long time ago, we are NOT helping Michael, we are helping his enemies to prove that MJ is alive which is opposes the plan. And if there is an operation, even worse.
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CAT FIGHT ON TWITTER!! argue/ afraid/
100N121
On Wednesday 4th May 2011, @100N121 said:
Pear Jr. IS a scam artist. She knows damn well Michael is dead. I saw her several times the last year Michael was still with us, always trying to record something to put on her former website. She would talk to me and she agreed something was very wrong. Last time was at the UCLA hospital on June 25, 2009. She was there and gave me a hug saying "I'm so sorry". She was somewhat uspet but too concerned about "interviewing" Brian Oxman and anyone she could for her website. Since then she has edited a video interview I gave her last year at court to make it sound like I saw Michael last on June 26th etc...Now whenever I see her she avoids eye contact or either tries to say hello. She keeps trying to add me back on Facebook on a regular basis. She knows she's wrong and she knows I know it. Anything for money!
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Pearljr Pearljr
Be very careful using legal terms like "SCAM" without proof, especially Karen Faye who goes around naked in front of children-Pseudocide
Pearljr Pearljr
On June 25, 2009 Jermaine said MJ is dead-nothing new here--we beLIEvers wants answers to why all the clues that have not be disputed so .
Pearljr Pearljr
Explanation please Jermaine. Do you know why the beLIEvers feel as they do? The most basic is why isn't MJ's name on the grave-SIMPLE ONE
Pearljr Pearljr
Nothing in "Alive" documentary is inaccurate, made up, proven to be false, etc. just empty accusations flying around-dispute something
earljr Pearljr
Every MJ fan wants the TRUTH whether beLIEvers or Justice for MJ, so why wasn't the casket ever opened after 9 hours of prep huh???????
Pearljr Pearljr
I can go on all day with reasons why beLIEvers feel as we do. I wrote an entire EmovieBook and DVD about it-Come on with FACTS that dispute
Pearljr Pearljr
@
@MissLexyLove Jermaine, Karen Faye, Samantha & anyone else who's disputing beLIEvers-KF, I don't own death hoax-beLIEvers do-I just report
Pearljr Pearljr
BRING IT ON! BEEN WAITING FOR SOME REAL ANSWERS-Let's do this Jermaine, KF, Samantha-my hands are clean what about yours?
Looks like Pearl Jr was "inspired" by this forum and makes money. Smart business.
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Why do you beLIEve in tweets of family and friends or "sources" when they were contradicting since day #1?
I do not care whether it is Jermaine, Madonna, the Pope or any other human being on this planet who is saying something.
I do not care whether it is this or that TV channel or Oprah or LK or any other seller of key hole journalism who is making his mouth move. I don't even watch or read them.
If I would, I would probably look like that or worse:
(http://rlv.zcache.com/cartoon_long_eared_jerboa_card-p137266472223492965q6ay_400.jpg)
:lol:
Just because a name is (allegedly) signed on a statement does not make the statement have more or less value than another person's words.
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I think jermaine is Michael's puppet. He is the one who is coached by Michael telling him what to say and do.. I strongly believe Michael is alive and he is the one stirring the boat.. HE IS THE CAPITAIN.. penguin/
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Perhaps we should consider that hoax purpose is to be "dead" for those that MJ hoaxes from. Revealing, proving hoax, "increasing hoax talks" IS NOT good for Michael. Maybe that's what Jermain means. BTW, I have said this also long time ago, we are NOT helping Michael, we are helping his enemies to prove that MJ is alive which is opposes the plan. And if there is an operation, even worse.
I said that too long time ago. I agree with you.. Maybe this forum should be just for us . Like I have visited others and you need to join to find out what they are talking about. Maybe Souza should do the same. That could help.. We do not want to jeopardize Michael'sl life... blessings.
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Perhaps we should consider that hoax purpose is to be "dead" for those that MJ hoaxes from. Revealing, proving hoax, "increasing hoax talks" IS NOT good for Michael. Maybe that's what Jermain means. BTW, I have said this also long time ago, we are NOT helping Michael, we are helping his enemies to prove that MJ is alive which is opposes the plan. And if there is an operation, even worse.
You make a lot of sense.
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It looks like we're getting some real action out of this :D And I think Pearl jr. could be an asset in this discussion (unless scorpionchik is right)
Let's see the naysayers address the evidence we've compiled, :lol: :lol: :lol: Only then will the hoax be put to rest.
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It's all just a game Jerm played today!
Look at Donte's tweets
Donte_Jackson Donte Jackson
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@_MashaR_ yes its for all :) and we all need it sometime. bless you sister
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Donte_Jackson Donte Jackson
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@_AnnaJ_ its truly my pleasure. god bless you twice
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Donte_Jackson Donte Jackson
read between the lines, think outside the box, and journey within yourself. peace and richest blessings to you all
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He addressed it to Believers!
Donte here is your huge hug! bearhug
But i also think that we should lock our forum, there is always somebody watching us, and we never know who they are! errrr
L.O.V.E to you all!!! Keep on believing, it was just another test!
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Perhaps we should consider that hoax purpose is to be "dead" for those that MJ hoaxes from. Revealing, proving hoax, "increasing hoax talks" IS NOT good for Michael. Maybe that's what Jermain means. BTW, I have said this also long time ago, we are NOT helping Michael, we are helping his enemies to prove that MJ is alive which is opposes the plan. And if there is an operation, even worse.
You make a lot of sense.
I strongly agree. What is discussed and investigated here, stays here, not on Twitter and not on Facebook. This is hard , time consuming work. Why give it away to those who are too sorry to investigate on their own or who use it to make derogatory remarks and accusations? Let it stay here where all of it together makes sense for those who wish to come and take part. Taking bits and pieces doesn't cut it. It's the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth that gives credence.
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How do you know Donte tweeted believers? What did they tweet to him?
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And if it's for believers, why would he balance Jermaine's tweet. Jermaine could have not tweeted at all. I don't find this entertaining.
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Talking about it,can I take KF down yet?
I know I know........... mj_bad/ haha
What is this about being naked infront of children though?!
Can someone update me,I've been busy working and things
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How do you know Donte tweeted believers? What did they tweet to him?
they didn't twitt him. Donte put a very beautiful twitt, that I feel it's addressed to the chaos created by jermaine
http://twitter.com/Donte_Jackson (http://twitter.com/Donte_Jackson)
read between the lines, think outside the box, and journey within yourself. peace and richest blessings to you all
about 1 hour ago via web
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For those who say this forum should be private: Not going to happen, period.
By the way, I don't see why people are freaking out on this, I predicted this months ago. To me this is a sign that the end is near. If you believe Jermaine, maybe it's time to get your stuff and leave hoaxland.
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How do you know Donte tweeted believers? What did they tweet to him?
See it for yourself, we can all make our own conclusions. I made mine :D
http://twitter.com/#!/Donte_Jackson (http://twitter.com/#!/Donte_Jackson)
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How do you know Donte tweeted believers? What did they tweet to him?
See it for yourself, we can all make our own conclusions. I made mine :D
http://twitter.com/#!/Donte_Jackson (http://twitter.com/#!/Donte_Jackson)
Ok, thanks. bearhug
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Well crash/ crash/ I guess then that I''m through with this discussion.
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Just to remind you this video:
[youtube:30zu04rp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_kN9laYkhI[/youtube:30zu04rp]
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I can't give this any more attention. It is a false debate that forgets that Michael would never, ever so cruelly hoax the fans he loved
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
First and foremost RT @wingheart Nor would he torture his own children...
Well, we always said that nothing came from the family about the hoax and that was a good consolation for us but now we have Jerm saying that this is not a hoax. After the delay of the trial this statement from Jermaine didn't make me feel better. I still believe that Michael is alive but I think he is not coming back. I always thought that he would but probably the return plans changed and canceled.
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Jerm has just tweeted this to Pearl.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@Pearljr you shld be ashamed of yourself -- irresponsibly fanning the flames with your nonsensical speculation & false premise. that's all
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I think Jermaine is saying we need to do a better job of proving this hoax, aka what TS has been trying to help us do.
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Pearljr Pearljr
@jermjackson5 Name a place & time & we'll be there-2 many beLIEvers now 2 quiet with just insults & denials-Let's do interview 2 clear it up
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Because really, why are some of you starting to believe Jermaine? He's liar #1 one from day one. He's never been reliable, he even lied in his slip up, I don't think Michael went to the airport, that was a clever lie right there... but the fact remains... Jermaine has always lied in the course of this hoax.
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New tweets from Jerm...
@Pearljr you shld be ashamed of yourself -- irresponsibly fanning the flames with your nonsensical speculation & false premise. that's all
52 minutes ago
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
First and foremost RT @wingheart Nor would he torture his own children...
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I can't give this any more attention. It is a false debate that forgets that Michael would never, ever so cruelly hoax the fans he loved
1 hour ago
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@selena2244 thank you -- it is distressing how 'believers' interpret anything as a 'sign' & read between lines that do not exist
1 hour ago
WTF IS GOING ON? WHO LIVES IN LA? PLEASE DRIVE DOWN TO HIS HOUSE AND NOT LEAVE HIM ALONE UNTIL HE GIVES ANSWERES!!!!
JUST KIDDING, SORRY JERMAIN! WE ARE NOT CRAZY! bearhug
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Pearljr Pearljr
@jermjackson5 Ashamed of giving MJ's loyal fans an extra voice-paying attention to them, agreeing something ain't right--No shame here baby!
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Woooo! Another mention of the hoax by Michael's family/close friends. party/
I don't believe this should ruin our faith. Maybe the hoax was too known, and Jermaine wants no more hoax talk, or maybe (as souza predicted) this is a sign that we're near the end. rr/
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who bet that tomorrow Jermaine will come out to tell us that his account have been hack? crash/
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1.This is getting REALLY out of hand on twitter.
2.How the hell did that video ^^ come together so quickly? truly amazing....but it's right because my mom stopped me yesterday and said 'I think you are definitley right that he is alive,I read the trial has moved again to Sept...must be because..there is nothing to have a trial over' She kinda believed anyway from what she knows I know/have shown her but she said that right off her own back so yes,I think this new delay HAS woken people up and they are questioning wtf is going on....how hard is it to try a Dr over a death..regardless of who it was who died..they died.
Or never in this case.
3.Jermaine needs to stop.Right now.
It was wrong of him also because as many of his fans are in the middle of both sides,and some are quite unstable over it.....would this new 'revelation' push them over the edge?Afte all that emotional effort and time....to read what he tweeted from nowhere is quite harrowing I would imagine.
I just think the whole thing is completely irresponsible,even if it has been orchestrated by Michael.
People are being severely affected by it from what I can see,in just a few hours.
Regardless of it being a test of faith,or to throw people off or whatever,it could have been done so a full on war never broke out.
J-man brought the rain...and Karenfuckingfaye followed him.Again,using the mention of Michael's name to stick her nose into it and have a say.ANY excuse to talk about Michael and she is there like a shot.She needs to get a life and get off twitter.
I HATE HER.
My faith is not shaken at all.I just wish it wasn't flooding twitter.
Michael's message of love is atm,being stomped all over by everyone.
Anyone invented the virtual slap and time machine yet?
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On Wednesday 4th May 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to PepzMachine)
@PepzMachine If people had all the answers there would not have to be a trial. There are many questions surrounding Michael's death. I have many questions too, but I know for a fact he is laid to rest in FL.
wingheart Karen Faye
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@thalostboy I find people's reaction to things very interesting. It teaches me a lot. I enjoy learning.
On Wednesday 4th May 2011, @wingheart said:
(In reply to jermjackson5)
@jermjackson5 Jermaine, maybe you can explain why Michael's resting place is still unmarked. I know the family were searching for the right words...but found it difficult to do so.
wingheart Karen Faye
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@carlotta72 there is no reason to address a theory, when the facts are already facts. I am sorry that fans believe a fallacy.
36 minutes ago
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So, as I said a few weeks ago, I thought the family would attack the hoax forums on Twitter to draw attention to it as we would near the end. Mission accomplished. The site is pretty slow at the moment and VERY slow a few minutes ago because there is a HUGE increase of traffic. At it's peak, there were 179 unique IP addresses visiting the site .... at the same second. If that would keep going on the whole day (it won't, it was a peak, but just to show you how much traffic that is) it would mean over 15 million unique visitors in 1 day. We're trying to get the host do an emergency upgrade at the moment.
So thanks for the attention Jermaine! lolol/
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I find this very interesting to see all this going on today. Hoax believers now challenging jermaine about the hoax and he replies. So much attention being brought to us on the very day the trial was meant to start.( I am pretty sure it was the 4th). After nearly 2 years, and on this day. Way too big a coincidence if you ask me.
Could it be that the trial actually has now started, just not in the way we were expecting??? mj_dance/
'The peoples court'!!!
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So, as I said a few weeks ago, I thought the family would attack the hoax forums on Twitter to draw attention to it as we would near the end. Mission accomplished. The site is pretty slow at the moment and VERY slow a few minutes ago because there is a HUGE increase of traffic. At it's peak, there were 179 unique IP addresses visiting the site .... at the same second. If that would keep going on the whole day (it won't, it was a peak, but just to show you how much traffic that is) it would mean over 15 million unique visitors in 1 day. We're trying to get the host do an emergency upgrade at the moment.
So thanks for the attention Jermaine! lolol/
Yep yep lolol/ I thought the same. He wanted to take all the attention on the hoax forum and on Pearl. michael-jackson/
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On Wednesday 4th May 2011, @wingheart said:
@jermjackson5 Jermaine, maybe you can explain why Michael's resting place is still unmarked. I know the family were searching for the right words...but found it difficult to do so.
What will it be......."Joe or Joseph".
afraid/
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If he was really upset or his message was serious, he 'd have used an official way. He could shut this forum down or make a press release for believers from the family.
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It's a STAR WARS DAY!!!! lolol/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_4)
May 4 is the 124th day of the year (125th in leap years) in the Gregorian calendar. There are 241 days remaining until the end of the year.
1+2+4=7 2+4+1=7 SHAMONE PEOPLE!!!! mj_bad/
This day is considered an unofficial holiday by Star Wars fans to celebrate Star Wars culture and remember the films.[5]
May 4 is called Star Wars Day (also sometimes known as Luke Skywalker Day) because of the popularity of a common pun spoken on this day. Since the phrase “May the Force be with you” is a famous quote often spoken in the Star Wars films, fans commonly say "May the fourth be with you" on this day. It should be noted that Star Wars fans were not the first to introduce the line “May the Fourth Be With You”. When Margaret Thatcher was elected Britain's first female prime minister, it happened on the Fourth of May 1979. This led her party to place an advertisement in The London Evening News, which said: "May The Fourth Be With You, Maggie. Congratulations."[6]
Events
1256 – The Augustinian monastic order is constituted at the Lecceto Monastery when Pope Alexander IV issues a papal bull Licet ecclesiae catholicae.
1415 – Religious reformers John Wycliffe and Jan Hus are condemned as heretics at the Council of Constance.
1471 – Wars of the Roses: The Battle of Tewkesbury: Edward IV defeats a Lancastrian Army and kills Edward, Prince of Wales.
1493 – Pope Alexander VI divides the New World between Spain and Portugal along the Line of Demarcation.
1626 – Dutch explorer Peter Minuit arrives in New Netherland (present day Manhattan Island) aboard the See Meeuw.
1675 – King Charles II of England orders the construction of the Royal Greenwich Observatory.
1686 – The Municipality of Ilagan is founded in the Philippines.
1776 – Rhode Island becomes the first American colony to renounce allegiance to King George III.
1799 – Fourth Anglo-Mysore War: The Battle of Seringapatam: The siege of Seringapatam ends when the city is invaded and Tipu Sultan killed by the besieging British army, under the command of General George Harris.
1814 – Emperor Napoleon I of France arrives at Portoferraio on the island of Elba to begin his exile.
1814 – King Ferdinand VII of Spain signs the Decrete of the 4th of May, returning Spain to absolutism.
1855 – American adventurer William Walker departs from San Francisco with about 60 men to conquer Nicaragua.
1859 – The Cornwall Railway opens across the Royal Albert Bridge linking the counties of Devon and Cornwall in England.
1863 – American Civil War: The Battle of Chancellorsville ends with a Union retreat.
1869 – The Naval Battle of Hakodate Bay is fought in Japan.
1871 – The National Association, the first professional baseball league, opens its first season in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
1886 – Haymarket Square Riot: A bomb is thrown at policemen trying to break up a labor rally in Chicago, Illinois, United States, killing eight and wounding 60. The police fire into the crowd.
1904 – The United States begins construction of the Panama Canal.
1904 – Charles Stewart Rolls meets Frederick Henry Royce at the Midland Hotel in Manchester, England.
1910 – The Royal Canadian Navy is created.
1912 – Italy occupies the Greek island of Rhodes.
1919 – May Fourth Movement: Student demonstrations take place in Tiananmen Square in Beijing, China, protesting the Treaty of Versailles, which transferred Chinese territory to Japan.
1932 – In Atlanta, Georgia, mobster Al Capone begins serving an eleven-year prison sentence for tax evasion.
1942 – World War II: The Battle of the Coral Sea begins with an attack by aircraft from the United States aircraft carrier USS Yorktown on Japanese naval forces at Tulagi Island in the Solomon Islands. The Japanese forces had invaded Tulagi the day before.
1945 – World War II: Neuengamme concentration camp near Hamburg is liberated by the British Army.
1945 – World War II: The North Germany Army surrenders to Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery.
1946 – In San Francisco Bay, U.S. Marines from the nearby Treasure Island Navy Base stop a two-day riot at Alcatraz federal prison. Five people are killed in the riot.
1949 – The entire Torino football team (except for two players who did not take the trip: Sauro Tomà, due to an injury and Renato Gandolfi, because of coach request) is killed in a plane crash at the Superga hill at the edge of Turin, Italy.
1953 – Ernest Hemingway wins the Pulitzer Prize for The Old Man and the Sea.
1959 – The 1st Grammy Awards are held.
1961 – American civil rights movement: The "Freedom Riders" begin a bus trip through the South.
1970 – Vietnam War: Kent State shootings: the Ohio National Guard, sent to Kent State University after disturbances in the city of Kent the weekend before, opens fire killing four unarmed students and wounding nine others. The students were protesting the United States' invasion of Cambodia.
1972 – The Don't Make A Wave Committee, a fledgling environmental organization founded in Canada in 1971, officially changes its name to "Greenpeace Foundation".
1974 – An all-female Japanese team reaches the summit of Manaslu, becoming the first women to climb an 8,000-meter peak.
1979 – Margaret Thatcher becomes the first female Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
1982 – Twenty sailors are killed when the British Type 42 destroyer HMS Sheffield is hit by an Argentinian Exocet missile during the Falklands War.
1988 – The PEPCON disaster rocks Henderson, Nevada, as tons of space shuttle fuel detonate during a fire.
1989 – Iran-Contra Affair: Former White House aide Oliver North is convicted of three crimes and acquitted of nine other charges. The convictions, however, are later overturned on appeal.
1990 – Latvia proclaims the renewal of its independence after the Soviet occupation.
1994 – Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and PLO leader Yasser Arafat sign a peace accord regarding Palestinian autonomy granting self-rule in the Gaza Strip and Jericho.
1998 – A federal judge in Sacramento, California, gives "Unabomber" Theodore Kaczynski four life sentences plus 30 years after Kaczynski accepts a plea agreement sparing him from the death penalty.
2000 – Ken Livingstone becomes the first Mayor of London.
2001 – The Milwaukee Art Museum addition, the first Santiago Calatrava-designed structure in the United States, opens to the public.
2002 – An EAS Airlines BAC 1-11-500 crashes in a suburb of Kano, Nigeria shortly after takeoff killing more than 148 people.
2007 – Greensburg, Kansas is almost completely destroyed by a 1.7mi wide EF-5 tornado.
2007 – The Scottish National Party wins the Scottish general election and becomes the largest party in the Scottish Parliament for the first time ever.
bearhug
L.O.V.E to all!
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Seems like Pearl is being attacked, Karen and Jermaine are focussing on her only. None of them addressed this site yet. Karen says:
wingheart Karen Faye
@
@modsarah2012 Michael died June 25, 2009. "Selling" (and stealing) misinformation is worse than spreading it as truth, for free.
Truth Karen? :lol:
And Jermaine says she should be ashamed of herself. Now is this because they really think it's disgusting that Pearl makes money with other people's research (as many do), or are they playing a little game here?
What an interesting day. I just wished Jermaine would have let me know so we could have upgraded the hosting first. Now he almost caused a crash. :lol:
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spreading it as truth
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'The peoples court'!!!
Lets not forget....
The court of last resort 1957-Episode 7
People VS Dr Conrad Murray
Episode Summary
Conrad was convicted of murder 34 years ago.
Still makes me lol
lol Souza,you should tweet him a thank you note and ps.next time adv warning of extreme random outbusts of info would be appreciated
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I have never been so amused in my entire life. Wow Michael thank you I needed this. Jermaine is the best actor so far. He should win a double oscar. All the slip ups he did , and this .. I owe it all to Michael coaching him what to do. Michael we await you with anticipation. Hurry up !!! lolol/ Another thing he is promoting this forum at the same time. I have this strange feeling that Michael read every single post and he is the one telling Jermaine what to say on twitter. God bless.
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I've seen that last night. I can't even express how I feel, I feel miserable. I never thought, not even in my worst nightmares, that the family would tell us we are delusional in such a cruel way. It's cruel.
If I was Jermaine I would have said it with a kind heart not that way, to hurt people. He already planted in people's heads right now the phrase "Michael would never,ever so cruelly hoax his fans". So the idea of a death hoax is already planted as "cruel" in people's minds. If Michael was to come back, people would know it was a cruel thing to do, because even if they had this opinion, Jermaine confirmed it.
This was the worst day ever in my whole life and in the last 2 years. I've never thought it would end like this. I'm only human, I can't anymore. I suffered all this time like they never imagined, like for my own brother. I can't even write too much now
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Maybe this will lighten up the day for some yet again losing hope:
Sinderella opened the thread about the Barnum circus coming to Staples Center again. OK. Remember, that the memorial and the circus timewise went hand in hand. And we all know it's "The Greatest Show On Earth". With Jermaine addressing the hoax and hence pulling attention to it AND the "Greatest Show On Earth" coming to town we are asked NOT to forget it's a show. The annual return of this circus was carefully chosen as to remind us every year of what this is - a show. mj_bad/
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Pearl Jnr has challenged Jermaine to be interviewed by her.. suspicious// fresse/ fresse/
Maybe we should ask Jermaine for the death photos....Just like Bin Laden..I won't believe it until I've seen it...
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Maybe this whole Jermaine Twitter thing is just supposed to be a diversion for us. I guess they want to throw us off guard. Maybe we are really near the end of this hoax and Michael wants to "surprise" us. Idk.
I know I'm just repeating what people before me have said but I find it hard to believe that Jermaine just comes out with this now. It's almost been 2 years. And I find it weird that it falls together with delay of the trial. Idk but I think there is a connection although I don't know which one.
Also I think it's somewhat of a clue that all the attention is thrown onto this forum. Maybe we are on the right track and they want people to notice even though they say differently. Idk. Just my opinion.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I can't give this any more attention. It is a false debate that forgets that Michael would never, ever so cruelly hoax the fans he loved
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
First and foremost RT @wingheart Nor would he torture his own children...
Well, we always said that nothing came from the family about the hoax and that was a good consolation for us but now we have Jerm saying that this is not a hoax. After the delay of the trial this statement from Jermaine didn't make me feel better. I still believe that Michael is alive but I think he is not coming back. I always thought that he would but probably the return plans changed and canceled.
What got me was when Jermaine said "I can't give this any more attention." could mean the hoax like this website...because the more he talks about it the more obvious it becomes.
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if i can throw in my two sense...i agree with souza that this ride may just be finally coming to a BAM. to refer to TS's may 1st post, i think this is a hoax court. from the beginning it was one big show. think about it. from the one and only infamous murray youtube video to katherine wearing the same outfit as michael's trial to stuffed animals being placed in the courtroom. it's all one big plot. was it ever really meant to fully go into trial? i mean, the jurors have even been dismissed! it's as if they did their job and now it is done, next level (as TS likes to phrase it) begins. is it a BAM?
i was watching katherine on the good morning america show and how they'd talked about 4 years was the max sentence for involuntary manslaughter and how she thought it was wrong. michael said we had 4 years to make it right. 2008+4=2012 (the year the earth is rumored to end as we know it). there are so many parallels my head could explode.
i think this tweet was for attention, since people watch jermaine- and it worked. was it the airport or the hospital? i forgot!
by the way jermaine...go ahead and call us crazy believers. people will want to know how crazy the truth really is.
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I've seen that last night. I can't even express how I feel, I feel miserable. I never thought, not even in my worst nightmares, that the family would tell us we are delusional in such a cruel way. It's cruel.
If I was Jermaine I would have said it with a kind heart not that way, to hurt people. He already planted in people's heads right now the phrase "Michael would never,ever so cruelly hoax his fans". So the idea of a death hoax is already planted as "cruel" in people's minds. If Michael was to come back, people would know it was a cruel thing to do, because even if they had this opinion, Jermaine confirmed it.
This was the worst day ever in my whole life and in the last 2 years. I've never thought it would end like this. I'm only human, I can't anymore. I suffered all this time like they never imagined, like for my own brother. I can't even write too much now
Anna, I understand your reaction believe me. But don't you find that Jermaine saying these things just now is very odd. Why didn't he tell it before? The hoax forums exist since the beginning but the family never said a thing...NEVER, not even one word. Think about that. I hope your pain disappears soon.
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if i can throw in my two sense...i agree with souza that this ride may just be finally coming to a BAM. to refer to TS's may 1st post, i think this is a hoax court. from the beginning it was one big show. think about it. from the one and only infamous murray youtube video to katherine wearing the same outfit as michael's trial to stuffed animals being placed in the courtroom. it's all one big plot. was it ever really meant to fully go into trial? i mean, the jurors have even been dismissed! it's as if they did their job and now it is done, next level (as TS likes to phrase it) begins. is it a BAM?
i was watching katherine on the good morning america show and how they'd talked about 4 years was the max sentence for involuntary manslaughter and how she thought it was wrong. michael said we had 4 years to make it right. 2008+4=2012 (the year the earth is rumored to end as we know it). there are so many parallels my head could explode.
i think this tweet was for attention, since people watch jermaine- and it worked. was it the airport or the hospital? i forgot!
by the way jermaine...go ahead and call us crazy believers. people will want to know how crazy the truth really is.
I love that last line you wrote...and I agree the similarities in dress is a big clue...if can't be coincidence after coincidence.
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And he knew what Pearl Jnr was up to way before today...remember this famous photo ??
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I was surprised to see that Jermaine finally addressed the hoax after all this time. Two years later. Even after Pearl Jr came to one of the Jackson events now he wanna go off on her about saying that MJ faked his death. Also he comes out saying all this when he is in the process of releasing the book. I still think MJ alive even if Jermaine is addressing the hoax. If there's no truth to it why even bother addressing it Jermaine. That's my opinion. He straight drawing attention to it now.
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Maybe this will lighten up the day for some yet again losing hope:
Sinderella opened the thread about the Barnum circus coming to Staples Center again. OK. Remember, that the memorial and the circus timewise went hand in hand. And we all know it's "The Greatest Show On Earth". With Jermaine addressing the hoax and hence pulling attention to it AND the "Greatest Show On Earth" coming to town we are asked NOT to forget it's a show. The annual return of this circus was carefully chosen as to remind us every year of what this is - a show. mj_bad/
That I did!
Check it out. :mrgreen:
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And he knew what Pearl Jnr was up to way before today...remember this famous photo ??
hahaha...but when was this pic taken?
If it was after MJ 'death', that has to be the most hilarious thing, I wonder if Pearl is wondering what's going on with Jermaine or if she knows what his or should I say Michael's up to.
He is acting like nothing ever happened,like he never met her before...it reminds me of funniest home videos...this little baby is putting candy in his diaper when he thinks his parents aren't looking and then they ask him did you take the candy and he has this innocent face on and as he is running away all the candy falls out. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or when this little girl is taking chocolate from the fridge at night and her Dad is saying "what are you doing" and as he is saying that she jumps up and gets a shock and drops the chocolate... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Also no offence to Pearl who is getting all the heat from Jermaine and non believers...but that's what happens when you try to take all the credit for the hoax.
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This is so odd, really ! Come on ....he is saying this now for what ? Why he didn't say anything till now ? If he knows we love Michael so much and we want him to come back.....why he decided to tell us to stop believing in this lie that he is alive ? They claim they love us , the fans.....so why now to end our hopes and dreams ? Pleaseeeeee moonwalk_/ Michael is somewhere in this world, alive and well, i hope he is coming back soon.
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Isn't that photo post 2009?
At a Jackson family event or something to do with them ie the dot project/a book launch etc.
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In fact people, this is good news. If you read between the lines, Jermaine is telling us do not wait for Michael now, he is not ready to come back. He had to say don't believe in the hoax.. He cannot give it away? This is a message from Michael.. Jermaine is being coached what to say by Michael. So please do not give up hope, faith please.. Just remember how many slip ups Jermaine has done, This is it but not it. Michael left us way before he went to the airport.. WHY AIRPORT?? If a person can make a mistake, he could have said anything else why did he choose the word AIRPORT? Because he knew his brother left to the airport. Michael did not leave that day, he probably left like he said way before. Everything was staged to the perfection. Why do you think the trial has been postponed? Because Michael hasn't resolved what he needed to do. He is not ready to come back. Murray will not go to jail, he hasn't killed anyone..... One thing I will tell you, listen to your little voice in you, if the little voice tells you Michael is alive, he is.. Mine tells me he is alive and kicking asses.. So be positive and faith, do not let anyone change your minds. God bless..
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lolol/
This is soooo entertaining!
OBVIOUSLY Jermaine is trying to bring more attention to the hoax, otherwise what would be the point of saying anything at all after 2 years?
This makes me think of a story about Michael making up crazy rumors about himself in order to get people's attention. Who knows if it's true or not but it makes sense. Like the story about him sleeping in an oxygen chamber. If you are Michael Jackson then you know that lies are going to be told about you regardless...might as well make them up yourself and use them to your advantage -that way you'll really be invincible.
It would make sense for Michael to give Jermaine the go-ahead to start talking about the hoax. It makes sense for one because people who haven't been following the hoax will take notice of what Jermaine says because he's popular, and for believers this is the biggest joke of all because Jermaine has been the one to give us so many clues. So Michael knew that this would not hinder our beliefs if we truly think about it... so the only thing that could come out of it is bringing more people to the website and if not gaining more believers, at least gaining more of an audience...which is the only thing he needs :) Afterall, has MJ ever done anything on a small scale? The man knows how to draw a crowd. In fact, I'd go as far as saying the whole Bin Laden thing could be a reason the trial was postponed, and it makes sense for Jermaine to say something now while the whole world is focused on Bin Laden's "death".
If we can believe that Michael pretended to die, then we have to also believe that his family would be willing to lie for him during this time. Drastic times call for drastic measures. I think we're finally getting somewhere...
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That's what Karen has to say today:
On Thursday 5th May 2011, @wingheart said:
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans.
There is a trial...if someone had all the answers, there would be no need for a trial. There will NEVER be enough answers to satisfy the fans. I have EXPERIENCED the truth that he is gone, so I can not even entertain your hoax. PERIOD!
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That's what Karen has to say today:
On Thursday 5th May 2011, @wingheart said:
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans.
There is a trial...if someone had all the answers, there would be no need for a trial. There will NEVER be enough answers to satisfy the fans. I have EXPERIENCED the truth that he is gone, so I can not even entertain your hoax. PERIOD!
Are we making fools of themselves for 2 years?
On the other hand, who said that Karen is confident enough to know the joke? Same for Jermaine. :?: :?: :?: :?:
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That's what Karen has to say today:
On Thursday 5th May 2011, @wingheart said:
The concept the beLievers are pursuing is painful, for those who Michael's death is very real for. His family, his children and me, for instance. It is even more painful to see how Pearl Jr, is exploiting this theory and the fans to attempt to build her career as a "producer". She knows he is gone, and claims she is just "reporting" the theory. This is just not kind to those who are grieving, ESPECIALLY his children. I don't think she is GIVING her material away. She is exploiting the time and hearts of MICHAEL's fans.
There is a trial...if someone had all the answers, there would be no need for a trial. There will NEVER be enough answers to satisfy the fans. I have EXPERIENCED the truth that he is gone, so I can not even entertain your hoax. PERIOD!
Well,here is my reply to that and her
WHO THE FUCK ASKED KAREN FAYE TO GET INVOLVED OR 'ENTERTAIN IT' ?!
Seriously,I want to punch her so bad.Not even over her hair this time,over the fact she is rude,is talking to Michael's life long fans like something on the bottom of her shoe,it has nothing to do with her-MICHAEL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HER,and hasn't for a long time and over the fact she AGAIN has used his name being mentioned to talk about him,her feelings,her relationship to him when she is nothing more...was nothing more than hired help.
The rest of the Jackson family haven't even bothered to get involved,they were all on after Jermaine yesterday..and not one word,yet she,queen of Ganesha OM or wtf she was running believes she has some right to speak to Michael's fans and supporters in such a manner like she is his ex wife/widow/family....even a friend.
She is none of the above.
The woman was FIRED for stealing fans money...if she never uttered a word about him,she'd have about 20 followers the other 7K are Michael's fans.NOT HERS.In her own words 'I never spoke to Michael for years' before TII took shape and she was drafted in.
She is NOT a Jackson.She never was,will be...
and for Karen,here is the conclusion-the dream died years ago love,he married other people,you along with everyone else in his life betrayed him and the fans your currently talking down to and hurt him-resulting in you getting sacked-You never saw a body,you never did the make up,you are a liar and a SELL OUT.fact,after fact after fact.He doesn't need you to be his spokeswoman,get over it.Go back to playing with your makeup brushes and do everyone a favour-stop drawing attention to what a misinformed idiot you are.
Someone pour some wine,it's gone beyond the point of tea now....she gets me so angry and riled up,what an absolutely disgusting human being.
I hope she reads this,stupid bit..
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don't hold back Sind.haha. :lol:
Is it only me or is everyone almost spellbound with watching this.
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Totally agree Sinderella lolol/
I'm excited to see where this will all lead us. I have a gut feeling that something is about to happen soon. They must know that they are creating so much drama right now. There must be a reason for this.
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Why do you beLIEve in tweets of family and friends or "sources" when they were contradicting since day #1?
I do not care whether it is Jermaine, Madonna, the Pope or any other human being on this planet who is saying something.
I do not care whether it is this or that TV channel or Oprah or LK or any other seller of key hole journalism who is making his mouth move. I don't even watch or read them.
If I would, I would probably look like that or worse:
(http://rlv.zcache.com/cartoon_long_eared_jerboa_card-p137266472223492965q6ay_400.jpg)
:lol:
Just because a name is (allegedly) signed on a statement does not make the statement have more or less value than another person's words.
bow/ bow/ bow/ respect/
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Half of the bill for the new server to Jermaine, other half to KF.
Thanks for the attention.
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Let me ask you all, what would've happened if this site did not ever form? Jermaine talks about the believers..pretty much as being hurtfully in denial. I'm wondering if the existence of us, pretty much from day one made the hoax part of the sting, entirely different and perhaps more complicated.
"They" have to now address us, and have to probably..done tons of things that may not have been planned. Like, the ambulance pics...courtroom toys...we have a list don't we?
I'm sure they figured there'd be "talk" of hoax, but, I really wonder if we really changed what could've been a simple disappearance to an elaborate show, because of our investigating.
What do you think?
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Jerm kept on writing about the hoax believers today. Here are the tweets:
sanilya_oakley Petra D.☑
@MarieJoseGMH does she always do that?? Why in earth would someone lie about death?? @jermjackson5 we Respect the death..wish he was alive
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@sanilya_oakley @Mimi_La_Reina to be loved or 'lubbed', that is the question ; )
magicpoetryx Veronica Jackson
@jermjackson5 As much as it hurts, I think it's important not to judge believers. I have friends who are believers and they are lovely.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@magicpoetryx i don't judge. I just wish I could stop their pain. It breaks my heart to see them hold on to a fantasy
JermaineJ5Fans JermaineJ I love You
@jermjackson5 Im so sorry that you had to read all that hatered towards you.you a good man and dont deserve such disrepect from noone.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@JermaineJ5Fans nasty tweets are always disappointing, but people lash out in love, ignorance or hurt, rarely malice
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this
increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all.
May be Jermaine tweet
we should read that stage of hoax IS INCREASING Now??
mj_dance/
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@magicpoetryx i don't judge. I just wish I could stop their pain. It breaks my heart to see them hold on to a fantasy
STOP OUR PAIN??????? :lol: Thanks Jermain, but i'm doing just fine, without anybody's help. And we are not a bunch of little kids who are just playing games here. We do think for ourselves!
"Just remember to always think twice. Do think twice! wooooooo!" moonwalk_/
If he wanted to stop our pain, he should have addressed the hoax in JULY 2009 or at least by the end of 2009. Cut believers right there, answer all the question which they had at THAT POINT, ask fans to be united and try to get justice for Michael, if it was really a murder, like they were all screaming around. If justice is so important for the family why were they not even trying to get done with it max in a year time. And watch CM suffer behind the bars, as well as Thome Thome (if he was such a beast, and poor child Michael couldn't defend himself) just because he is a "fall guy" it doesn't mean that he can walk freely and have fun for 2 years. And not only Jerm should have said something back in 2009, but at least all of the brothers and sisters (parents are too old to bother them) make an official statement for us, and again answer our questions, and make us UNITED TO HELP TO GET JUSTICE FOR MICHAEL. What he did now is absolute BS, i felt so sick yesterday reading tweets, it was a bloody battle, believers attacking Jerm and all the brothers, non believers attacking us and all of that non stop for 24 hours (and it's still not over)! How can he say now that he cares about us, that he wants to stop our pain??? What is that about? If JUSTICE is soooooooooooo important to a loving family, why you go and make money off of your brothers name? MICHAEL'S LEGACY WILL LIVE FOREVER, NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!!!!!! moonwalk_/ It doesn't need your book or a live show or a magazine.!
See ya in the AIRPORT Jermain! ;)
L.O.V.E to you my dear friends, we will always "KEEP THE FAITH"!!!! bearhug
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this
increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all.
May be Jermaine tweet
we should read that stage of hoax IS INCREASING Now??
mj_dance/
It is IMPOSSIBLE Jermaine never heard about the hoax talk and the hoax talk is not increasing now....in fact it was much hoax talk in the past than now, just look - now we are only a few here left.
So there's no reason why he should say "increasing"
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In fact people, this is good news. If you read between the lines, Jermaine is telling us do not wait for Michael now, he is not ready to come back. He had to say don't believe in the hoax.. He cannot give it away? This is a message from Michael.. Jermaine is being coached what to say by Michael. So please do not give up hope, faith please.. Just remember how many slip ups Jermaine has done, This is it but not it. Michael left us way before he went to the airport.. WHY AIRPORT?? If a person can make a mistake, he could have said anything else why did he choose the word AIRPORT? Because he knew his brother left to the airport. Michael did not leave that day, he probably left like he said way before. Everything was staged to the perfection.
Today I tweeted Jermain to explain about "AIRPORT" slip up, he sent me a direct message saying the following: " if you understood grieif, you would understand verbal slip-ups made in grief confusion. It is not a clue,or proof or hope."
I replied, that I very much know what grief is, therefore I don't get slip up like that. And that he did not convinced me with that answer, but I thankful for his reply." I seriously can't imagine me confusing my dead parents being in airport instead of cemetery.
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Half of the bill for the new server to Jermaine, other half to KF.
Thanks for the attention.
I say give it all to KF.
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Half of the bill for the new server to Jermaine, other half to KF.
Thanks for the attention.
I already supported this motion on twitter hahahaha ;)
BUT I agree,add a few extra 000 on it and send it to KF.
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Today I tweeted Jermain to explain about "AIRPORT" slip up, he sent me a direct message saying the following: " if you understood grieif, you would understand verbal slip-ups made in grief confusion. It is not a clue,or proof or hope."
I replied, that I very much know what grief is, therefore I don't get slip up like that. And that he did not convinced me with that answer, but I thankful for his reply." I seriously can't imagine me confusing my dead parents being in airport instead of cemetery.
I appreciated your contribution, thank you respect/
DID ANYONE HAVE ASKED JERMAINE - WHY HE IS LOOKING SOOO HAPPY AND ALL SMILEY EVERY TIME HE TALKS ABOUT MICHAEL"S PASSING?? especially wth Larry KIng convo.
since he start to give away some direct answers for our family. typing/
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Maybe he talks down believing in the hoax because it isn't. Maybe it is a STING!!!
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yeah and maybe we should ask Jermaine to explain why he said at the premier of TII that "this is it, but this is really not it, there's much more to come, this is not the final curtain call".
Would he care to explain those words?
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Maybe he talks down believing in the hoax because it isn't. Maybe it is a STING!!!
I was thinking along those lines as well....as in, he wouldn't "fake his death" just for the hell of it. It's not a hoax, it's a sting. That would make Donte's tweet about reading between the lines make sense. They are always talking in riddles.
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Gina, maybe Michael album, stuff like that.
He seems to take back everything he says anyway, probably if we ask him the answer is the same: no clue, no hope, dont read between the lines and so on. So we should not rely too much on what he said anymore. When did he lie, now or then? And if the present is more important than the past (maybe plans have changed), what was he trying to tell us now?
With or without Jermaine, Michael is still alive to me, but as we took Jermaine's clues as messages to us in the past, should we take his direct message as a message in present? The answer that makes sense would be yes (at least to me). But that doesn't mean Michael is dead, he just wants us to behave like he has passed and to move on.
Before you tell me to leave if that is my opinion, i want to let you know that this is only the way i see his messaje and that doesn't mean i am going to follow Jermaine's message, just like i dont follow anyone around. It is only an opinion.
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I've seen that last night. I can't even express how I feel, I feel miserable. I never thought, not even in my worst nightmares, that the family would tell us we are delusional in such a cruel way. It's cruel.
If I was Jermaine I would have said it with a kind heart not that way, to hurt people. He already planted in people's heads right now the phrase "Michael would never,ever so cruelly hoax his fans". So the idea of a death hoax is already planted as "cruel" in people's minds. If Michael was to come back, people would know it was a cruel thing to do, because even if they had this opinion, Jermaine confirmed it.
This was the worst day ever in my whole life and in the last 2 years. I've never thought it would end like this. I'm only human, I can't anymore. I suffered all this time like they never imagined, like for my own brother. I can't even write too much now
Anna, I understand your reaction believe me. But don't you find that Jermaine saying these things just now is very odd. Why didn't he tell it before? The hoax forums exist since the beginning but the family never said a thing...NEVER, not even one word. Think about that. I hope your pain disappears soon.
Despite the pain Jermaine's cruel tweets provoked, I have to admit Sarahli's arguments and those of all of you who still manage to see an encouraging sign in this. I truly understand and empathize with the thoughts and feelings of Anna, my heart goes out to all believers who experience despair in these confusing times, but we really need to keep realistic and ask ourselves why now, why Jermaine and why like this, let alone the fact that the forum number of visitors exploded due to this controversy and not to some other clue we found. We are now legit because Jermaine acknowledged us by disputing our theories... God knows!
LOVE,
Andy
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Heart it couldn't be abput the Michael album....the deal with Sony was not even in discussion at that time, as far as I know.
Jermaine has to be lying now. There has to be a reason and before i speculate more, I think I better wait and see what TS has to say about this.
If things didn't make sense in the past, something is rotten in Denmark, regardless of what Jermaine say now.
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Anyone noticed the timing of Jermaine's tweets going into overdrive about how Michael is not alive?
Coincidence?...........................I think not.
All I can say is keep the Faith. Patience is a virtue.
And do you really think even if his brother knew he was still alive, and I'm not saying he does or he doesn't, but let's say he DOES know..... do you really think he would do nothing less than SHOUT at the world that he is NOT alive?
2 words: Brotherly looooove.
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But why now?
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But why now?
That is my question ... after almost 2 years now this......
Karen Faye also writes a lot and with each letter I feel sick.
This woman makes me mad. afraid/ 8-)
Keep the Faith!!!!
L.O.V.E
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It is certainly a little odd. My thinking on this is that they (meaning Jermaine, etc) do not want the world to know in advance that Michael is about to make his re appearance. Maybe it is meant to have shock value except to the believers, and in keeping it at a low ebb, people who are 100% certain in their beliefs that he did in fact die on 6/25/09 (or those who have more to lose than gain upon his return) will be in total disbelief and some maybe even scared shitless according to their "dead" agendas.
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But why now?
That is my question ... after almost 2 years now this......
Karen Faye also writes a lot and with each letter I feel sick.
This woman makes me mad. afraid/ 8-)
Keep the Faith!!!!
L.O.V.E
KF...don't even get me started :lol:
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@magicpoetryx i don't judge. I just wish I could stop their pain. It breaks my heart to see them hold on to a fantasy
Jermaine, I have no pain or nothing is hurting me :roll: party/
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hold on to a fantasy with a little extra help courtesy of :roll: Jermaine
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oh, i forgot, there were no slip -ups, just grief.
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Jermaine's tweets have reason.
What reason? To tell us he is "dead"? It's not like we didn't "know" that already. So why even bother? Why now? What for? And how does naming the hoax cruel help Michael in future? Why did he say it finally when he could've just shut up like before and why this irrevocably way? Why making us look evil for even thinking of this "CRUEL" idea? Why making Michael look like he "would torture" his kids if he would fake his death? How does this prepare Michael 's image for a comeback? What about the media (if he comes back) if his brother chooses these words to name the hoax (cruel and torturing children).
I understand the brotherly love and the lies, but that's exactly the opposite. He could support the idea of him being dead just like before. In silence or if not, choosing the appropriate words to not make him look like some kind of cruel person who tortures his children when he comes back.
My final point is that Jermaine's attitude was rather that of a brother who covers a hoax that will stay forever a hoax and that people should really start moving on after 2 years, because this increase talk does not help anyone . Not us and certainly not Michael if we were not part of his plans. And i don't blame him.
Or...Jermaine is crazy. Period.
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There is a topic Jermaine's tweets have a reason. Better: Do Jermaine's tweets have a reason? lolol/
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=19022&p=328847#p328847 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=19022&p=328847#p328847)
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I think that might be his way of telling us to shut up and be quiet. Rude yes. But to the point. Michael might not want the world to know. It might not even be safe for the world to know. It feels like it is time and they want to be on the side of precaution for him to re-enter the world. I've never believed he would come back the same Michael who left . He justs wants to return and live with some sense of normalcy. Just my opinion. Nothing etched in stone.
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Anyone noticed the timing of Jermaine's tweets going into overdrive about how Michael is not alive?
Coincidence?...........................I think not.
All I can say is keep the Faith. Patience is a virtue.
And do you really think even if his brother knew he was still alive, and I'm not saying he does or he doesn't, but let's say he DOES know..... do you really think he would do nothing less than SHOUT at the world that he is NOT alive?
2 words: Brotherly looooove.
What do you mean with the timing? I don't understand. You mean the delay in the trial or what?
So you think Jermaine says Michael is dead to protect Michael and the hoax?
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Why do you keep repeating: just my opinion? Are we so afraid to speak up our minds?
It's a forum so every post is our opinion if not quoting. But i too feel the need to repeat that it's only my opinion.
We should be less afraid to express ourselves and more understanding to each other's thoughts and feelings , group hug bearhug
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You are also implying that it is possible that Jermaine doesn't know MJ is alive?!
But in this case what about the clues coming from Jermaine?
Why do I feel some irony in that brotherly looooove suspicious// ?
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Jermaine is Rainman.
RAINMAN Remote Automated Information Manager
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RAINMAN
Plus he has a great memory to notice only now that some people are intensively talking hoax since day one.
Then he has a world on his own.
And he loves his brother dearly.
And the picture has its effectiveness: people are crying at it.
Of course they're crying at it — it's a piece of wet kitsch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Man
Waking up the masses - of course Jermaine has a meaning. Always had, always will.
Let's waltz, hoax family, let's waltz...
(http://images2.makefive.com/images/news-business/design/top-5-coolest-animated-gifs/dancing-spider-man-7.gif)
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I don't sense irony there, i think he meant Jermaine just lied because he loves Michael, he even lies for him. My question is why like this? Cruel and torturing kids? This makes no sense, it's useless. Just say he is dead period. Or just don't say anything like you did 2 years. Just useless.
Hope TR explains what he meant.
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well I sense irony because of to many "ooooos" in love.
Why not simply brotherly love geek/ ?
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lolol/
TR get back here typing/
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It seems like there are always lies when something important is about to happen. When This Is It was coming out on movies the family said it wasnt Michael, when the Michael album was coming out the family said it wasn't Michael. Now we have all this drama from Jerm, is it to promote his book, or to bring attention to the hoax I don't know, but it does mean something... mj_dance/
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lolol/
TR get back here typing/
lol leave him alone, maybe he's sleeping now ...or dancing penguin/
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moonwalk_/ elvis_/
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i'm not sure i understand :D
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don;t know much about Elvis but I really hope he wasn't dancing this way :arrow: elvis_/ lolol/
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I think that might be his way of telling us to shut up and be quiet. Rude yes. But to the point. Michael might not want the world to know. It might not even be safe for the world to know. It feels like it is time and they want to be on the side of precaution for him to re-enter the world. I've never believed he would come back the same Michael who left . He justs wants to return and live with some sense of normalcy. Just my opinion. Nothing etched in stone.
you have hit on the aspect that has troubled me for a while.
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You noticed that Jermaine said that only after Pearl releasing a documentary about Hoax?
Maybe that's why he never said anything. Before, there has discussion only only in blogs about hoax and among fans. Now comes a journalist and does a complete DVD on everything we have researched and discovered, deliver the gold to potential criminals, it makes other people have a distorted idea of the reasons that led Michael to forge death. Who hates Michael will think that it was motivated by money.
Jermaine wrote: "This increasing hoax talk helps no one!" This conversation should be disturbing and Michael may be compromising their safety. Jermaine said there was an ongoing investigation and that everything will come out. Not out yet. So it's not over yet and Michael may still be at risk. One can understand your anger! The family have to protect him.
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Why do you keep repeating: just my opinion? Are we so afraid to speak up our minds?
It's a forum so every post is our opinion if not quoting. But i too feel the need to repeat that it's only my opinion.
We should be less afraid to express ourselves and more understanding to each other's thoughts and feelings , group hug bearhug
I have been attacked on many forums and the convo runs from "how do you know" to "from what source did that come" so I guess I use that as a built in guard to protect me and my posts from being taken out of context. It says from the start that this is from me, no source, no links, etc. Thanks for the hug. Back atcha bearhug
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You noticed that Jermaine said that only after Pearl releasing a documentary about Hoax?
Maybe that's why he never said anything. Before, there has discussion only only in blogs about hoax and among fans. Now comes a journalist and does a complete DVD on everything we have researched and discovered, deliver the gold to potential criminals, it makes other people have a distorted idea of the reasons that led Michael to forge death. Who hates Michael will think that it was motivated by money.
Jermaine wrote: "This increasing hoax talk helps no one!" This conversation should be disturbing and Michael may be compromising their safety. Jermaine said there was an ongoing investigation and that everything will come out. Not out yet. So it's not over yet and Michael may still be at risk. One can understand your anger! The family have to protect him.
you could be right ana. i did not see this part that he said. as a matter of fact not the part to pearly either, are they missing now?
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Hello i’m new here.
My name is Cis and I’m Dutch.
For some of you who lost hope due Jermaine’s Tweet’s.
http://youtu.be/EIdzNLnzdhw (http://youtu.be/EIdzNLnzdhw)
A song about his brother Michael.
http://youtu.be/Mb-4cx8_fvc (http://youtu.be/Mb-4cx8_fvc)
Another slip up at the end of the video.
It looked like Tito was thinking: “what the f**k are you saying, shut up”……or something like that.
Tito looked (despite the sunglasses) irritated.
It’s a unconscious (fast/first) reaction on something………you can’t hide it!
He took the microphone away, this was a sign to Jermaine…….”fool you’ve said enough”.
Then Jermaine realized that he said to much….again!
Jermaine’s past isn’t that nice either.
Unfaithful to his wife. mj_bad/ (that’s sneaky, tell me about it lolol/ )
Married a few times, a lot of kids party/ with different mothers.
What I would like to say:
Instead of looking at the Tweets, look at You Tube LKL Dave Dave a few times again!!
That’s the ONLY living proof of Michael himself.
I’m a very HSP and I now for 100%......... that’s Michael!!!!!!
And don’t forget the song :D “Smile” :D from Jermaine at the memorial.
“Light up your face with sadness????, hide every trace of GLADNESS????”
“All THROUGH THE YEARS, we’ll be ever so near”
That was no mistake, he knew exactly what he was singing!!!
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Jermaine’s past isn’t that nice either.
Unfaithful to his wife. mj_bad/ (that’s sneaky, tell me about it lolol/ )
Married a few times, a lot of kids party/ with different mothers.
Last part goes for Michael too? Let's not judge. bearhug
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Hello i’m new here.
My name is Cis and I’m Dutch.
For some of you who lost hope due Jermaine’s Tweet’s.
http://youtu.be/EIdzNLnzdhw (http://youtu.be/EIdzNLnzdhw)
A song about his brother Michael.
http://youtu.be/Mb-4cx8_fvc (http://youtu.be/Mb-4cx8_fvc)
Another slip up at the end of the video.
It looked like Tito was thinking: “what the f**k are you saying, shut up”……or something like that.
Tito looked (despite the sunglasses) irritated.
It’s a unconscious (fast/first) reaction on something………you can’t hide it!
He took the microphone away, this was a sign to Jermaine…….”fool you’ve said enough”.
Then Jermaine realized that he said to much….again!
Jermaine’s past isn’t that nice either.
Unfaithful to his wife. mj_bad/ (that’s sneaky, tell me about it lolol/ )
Married a few times, a lot of kids party/ with different mothers.
What I would like to say:
Instead of looking at the Tweets, look at You Tube LKL Dave Dave a few times again!!
That’s the ONLY living proof of Michael himself.
I’m a very HSP and I now for 100%......... that’s Michael!!!!!!
And don’t forget the song :D “Smile” :D from Jermaine at the memorial.
“Light up your face with sadness????, hide every trace of GLADNESS????”
“All THROUGH THE YEARS, we’ll be ever so near”
That was no mistake, he knew exactly what he was singing!!!
WELCOME TO OUR FAMILY!!
Yes,Jman is not really one to pay much attention to,my issue was with the way it was done.It has caused a HUGE divide in the fan base-one which was already big and fractured.More people,like yourself will find the site because of it and that's awesome!but a lot of people are hurt by it and so for that Jermaine is a tool.
But,I still think he is being instructed to do certain things so,really,the one to be mad at is moonwalk_/
MICHAEL!!!
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hi cissy
that song you posted is actually very good! I'm not familar with Jermaine;s songs, but it was very good imo.
When was it composed?
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http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Smile-lyrics-Michael-Jackson/9DA2B8C5942E25A94825688E00278AEA
Gina, "Smile", Michael's song sung by Jermaine at the funeral. I think that's what she meant.
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Poor Jerm, he must have a very thick skin, that's all I will say about it. I can't believe how some people can judge a person they never met.
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No, I think it was about this one, that I've never heard before:
[youtube:33omq4ii]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdzNLnzdhw&feature=youtu.be[/youtube:33omq4ii]
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Didn’t they judge Michael? And now they are judging us. What makes Jermain immune?
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They did. Not us.
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BeLievers are judged by every Tom, Dick and Harry. Sometimes on twitter, it’s open field day on us for no given reason. Just someone picks up and post a negative and it’s on.
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True......And now Karen spreading hate.... :roll:
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True......And now Karen spreading hate.... :roll:
…as if she is blood and obliged to chime in with the family in family discussions/disputes. She IS NOT, let me repeat, NOT A JACKSON, as bad as she would like to be. Just ain’t so. She’s living a delusion. She is hired help. End of the story. :roll: Somebody needs to really read her and give her a reality check.
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She felt herself so important being RT by Jermaine in this hoax thing that she just wouldn't stop. She thinks she helps him or what. I think Jermaine is embaressed too.
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Jermaine is follwing her on twitter.
I have to believe Michael is alive because if he's not - I can't even imagine a worse family for him. And I really don't want to go there.
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I stand by EVERYTHING I said about her in my previous rant.
Jermaine said what he needed to and stopped....SHE has created an online massacre.
She has given out to everyone,and is now crying wolf because #unfollowkarenfaye is being used at her and fans are getting their own back.
I say good for them,I support them in every comment directed at her.
She IS NOT A JACKSON she is not even his friend anymore,she is living off her past relationship with him as a friend/employee and 99% of her followers are HIS fans following her to ..I don't know,learn more about him,watch what she says,whatever.She has no right to talk to anyone about anything.
I have also now heard she called Brazillian people monkey's. Honest to God,she needs to be stopped NOW.She is a complete lunatic.
She makes my blood boil and if I ever have the unfortunate chance to meet her,I will without regret or care slap her so hard it leave a hand print on her face. #promise
Moral of this story is
Don't give it if you can't take it :ugeek:
TO THE L.E.F.T KAREN grab a bag on the way out and put it over that head of yours
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Jermaine is follwing her on twitter.
I have to believe Michael is alive because if he's not - I can't even imagine a worse family for him. And I really don't want to go there.
So true! If we list VERY WEIRD BEHAVIOR (laughing, slip ups, smiles, joy, indifference) OF THE FAMILY STARTING WITH KATHERINE, THEN MICHAEL MUST BE ALIVE, otherwise............ I also don't want to go there.
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If you follow Michael Jackson, unfollow @wingheart a fame seeker and a grotesque wannabe famous attacking MJ fans.
KF Answer
Please do, if this is your opinion of me. Thank you for your assistance.
@wingheart how did Michael cope with people asking him if Elvis was alive
KF Answer
I never heard anyone ask Michael such an absurd question.
But sweetheart, Michael was married to his daughter. Who in their right mind would ask Michael that?
KF:
It's kinda like being a standup comedian and your audience is nothing but intoxicated heckling MJ fans.
I must add here. I absolutely adore and love most all of Michael's fans. I have found so many beautiful spirits, that helped me through my darkest hours. You all know exactly who you are. I LOVE YOU GUYS!
Someone: If people asked Michael about Elvis I bet he answered in a polite caring fashion this is what I was getting at not like
KF answer: I have been addressing this line of questioning politely for 2 years. At some point people such as yourself should be able to grasp what my response IS, and WILL ALAWYS BE
I don't find that "monkey" insult, but if that's what she said then i have no words.
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I think it is where the #unfollowkarenfaye thing came from
She has probably since deleted it but it is all over twitter/in mjfam land she has upset lots of people with it and is now labelled a racist _____________________________________________________________________
fill in with obscene names here ^
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Maybe she understood how over limit that rasist comment was.
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Tweet tweetin' like a baby bird. penguin/
No, he's not just saying it now. He's always said it. But now he is screaming it -- doesn't it make ya just wanna SCREAM? afraid/ Why shout it now? 2 reasons........
1. Because timing is everything.
2. People are getting a little too gung-ho(ax).
2 years is nothing on a GRANDER scale. TIme Is relative. Trust me, it will be worth the wait, I promise you that.
It's not a comeback...... it's a TakeoveR! <---- remember that!
Keep the Faith.
Love,
T.R.
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explain that timing thing please, I don't understand crash/
it's a TakeoveR right...I knew that geek/
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Would you join us in chatroom? party/ party/
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If she is tired of answering it after 2 years and can't do it without getting angry then she best not even answer at all. :roll:
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I have also now heard she called Brazillian people monkey's. Honest to God,she needs to be stopped NOW.She is a complete lunatic.
Whaaaaaaaaat? What a son of a b*tch! I'm brazilian, and I hate when people think that there are monkeys and snakes running freely in our streets, but to call us monkeys is pure racism. Karen, you should watch her mouth. If you cares so much about Michael, who have been called racist many times, you should be carrying his message, and not doing one of the things he fights against.
By the way, why did she insulted us?
Ps.: Sinderella, you got one more member to your 'I hate KF' team :lol:
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brunob12 wrote:
Sinderella wrote:I have also now heard she called Brazillian people monkey's. Honest to God,she needs to be stopped NOW.She is a complete lunatic.
Whaaaaaaaaat? What a son of a b*tch! I'm brazilian, and I hate when people think that there are monkeys and snakes running freely in our streets, but to call us monkeys is pure racism. Karen, you should watch her mouth. If you cares so much about Michael, who have been called racist many times, you should be carrying his message, and not doing one of the things he fights against.
By the way, why did she insulted us?
Ps.: Sinderella, you got one more member to your 'I hate KF' team
that this happening to this woman, Karen not to insult to Brazil nor its people :evil:
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IMHO,since the start of the "MJ's DEATH", there have been hints/clues dropped in various conversations & my ears are always attuned to what Jermaine & siblings have to say.So, all of a sudden,after a couple of years where all the fan's investigations/opinions have been in a fish bowl,Jermaine would just say stop saying that he is alive......
Whether or not that's Jermaine's twitter acct.,gives me more reason to believe that MJ is alive.
Definitely,there's something to that & as I think, things are being played acccordingly.
This is just my opinion
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Tweet tweetin' like a baby bird. penguin/
No, he's not just saying it now. He's always said it. But now he is screaming it -- doesn't it make ya just wanna SCREAM? afraid/ Why shout it now? 2 reasons........
1. Because timing is everything.
2. People are getting a little too gung-ho(ax).
2 years is nothing on a GRANDER scale. TIme Is relative. Trust me, it will be worth the wait, I promise you that.
It's not a comeback...... it's a TakeoveR! <---- remember that!
Keep the Faith.
Love,
T.R.
He hasn't talked about the hoax before only now.
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Tweet tweetin' like a baby bird. penguin/
No, he's not just saying it now. He's always said it. But now he is screaming it -- doesn't it make ya just wanna SCREAM? afraid/ Why shout it now? 2 reasons........
1. Because timing is everything.
2. People are getting a little too gung-ho(ax).
2 years is nothing on a GRANDER scale. TIme Is relative. Trust me, it will be worth the wait, I promise you that.
It's not a comeback...... it's a TakeoveR! <---- remember that!
Keep the Faith.
Love,
T.R.
He hasn't talked about the hoax before only now.
I was talking about Tweets about MJ not being alive (i.e., "gone"). Someone said why is he stressing it and screaming it now? And yes of course the hoax..... like I said "too gung-ho(ax)." That's what that was in reply to.
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Tweet tweetin' like a baby bird. penguin/
No, he's not just saying it now. He's always said it. But now he is screaming it -- doesn't it make ya just wanna SCREAM? afraid/ Why shout it now? 2 reasons........
1. Because timing is everything.
2. People are getting a little too gung-ho(ax).
2 years is nothing on a GRANDER scale. TIme Is relative. Trust me, it will be worth the wait, I promise you that.
It's not a comeback...... it's a TakeoveR! <---- remember that!
Keep the Faith.
Love,
T.R.
He hasn't talked about the hoax before only now.
I was talking about Tweets about MJ not being alive (i.e., "gone"). Someone said why is he stressing it and screaming it now? And yes of course the hoax..... like I said "too gung-ho(ax)." That's what that was in reply to.
ohh...ok
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Could someone post the tweet where Karen called Brazilians monkeys? I can't seem to find it.
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I think that might be his way of telling us to shut up and be quiet. Rude yes. But to the point. Michael might not want the world to know. It might not even be safe for the world to know. It feels like it is time and they want to be on the side of precaution for him to re-enter the world. I've never believed he would come back the same Michael who left . He justs wants to return and live with some sense of normalcy. Just my opinion. Nothing etched in stone.
you have hit on the aspect that has troubled me for a while.
I agree with you guys. I also can't help but wonder if Jermaine is trying to garner more interest in his up-coming book.
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Jermaine deleted his tweets regarding the hoax, etc... check out his tweeter now :shock:
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poor Jermaine...d----- if you do, d----- if you don't. MJ fans have been waiting for so long for them to address the hoax. now that he did, we're asking why. lolol/
though i understand it's the timing that's being questioned. and of course it means nothing as we can't expect him to say otherwise.
here are interesting replies to him:
bcox64 Bonnie Cox
@jermjackson5 It's not denial, it's misinformation, like the same thing that is going on in the news today.
@jermjackson5 It is VERY hard for fans to accept u r right. But it doesn't help when family members contradict each other, either
@jermjackson5 You have fans that have been on this for two years, the whole time. The hoax talk increases with every contradiction
@jermjackson5 If there weren't so many contradictions, the blogs pointing them out wouldn't be so popular.
@jermjackson5 so if the hoax talk doesn't help anyone, you tell me what talk does, because none of this is helping anyone except ...
@jermjackson5 someone's bottom line. If he is dead, tell the fans to go home . . . show's over. Am I wasting my time? Wld be nice to know
and from her blog:
http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/20 ... aines.html (http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2011/05/michaels-family-vintage-pop-jermaines.html)
I would like to appeal to Jermaine to consider the fact that the FANS are not the ones putting out the conflicting information which they feel compelled to verify. If it weren’t for the consistent stirring of the pot on Twitter by family members, and the chess game in the online tabloids, fans wouldn’t be so misled.
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Anyone noticed the timing of Jermaine's tweets going into overdrive about how Michael is not alive?
Coincidence?...........................I think not.
All I can say is keep the Faith. Patience is a virtue.
And do you really think even if his brother knew he was still alive, and I'm not saying he does or he doesn't, but let's say he DOES know..... do you really think he would do nothing less than SHOUT at the world that he is NOT alive?
2 words: Brotherly looooove.
I agree with you, I have been repeating myself over and over saying the same thing. He will not give away his brother. He will not throw his brother Michael to the wolves.. I am glad someone things like I do.. blessings.
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just checked. no he didn't
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He probably cancelled it because he was afraid of retaliation.. he is too smart for his own good. I don't believe anything Jermaine has to say. He has no choice to protect Michael. If Michael were my brother I would have done anything to protect him, so is jermaine. Please have the faith..
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I have also now heard she called Brazillian people monkey's. Honest to God,she needs to be stopped NOW.She is a complete lunatic.
Whaaaaaaaaat? What a son of a b*tch! I'm brazilian, and I hate when people think that there are monkeys and snakes running freely in our streets, but to call us monkeys is pure racism. Karen, you should watch her mouth. If you cares so much about Michael, who have been called racist many times, you should be carrying his message, and not doing one of the things he fights against.
By the way, why did she insulted us?
Ps.: Sinderella, you got one more member to your 'I hate KF' team :lol:
YES!!! Welcome,I am considering getting badges made with ANTI KF lolol/
No for reals though she is out of order.I will try and see if someone has a print of it but she definitley said it because so many people started attacking her-who hadn't been previously, over it.It got RT'd many times I imagine,I was just not on there when it went down.I saw someone tweet her saying
'f*** you if you think we're monkey's you are one of these-and attached a link to a pic of a rather ugly python/snake thing and then proceeded to call her a fu**ing bi***.
so,im not making it up,it did happen,she did make a racist remark yesterday.
and Michael,I am sure is watching all of this,horrified and sad that despite all his efforts to instill in his fans and the world the message of equality,peace,love,humanity and so on,it's all gone out the window in a few short days.
His fans are behaving like animals,I don't disagree with them giving her a taste of her own medicine but they are turning on each other and blocking each other over her!I have thrown a few sly tweets in there from my account but y'all already know I hated KF wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before any of this started so no one should be shocked at my desire to slap her.
She is a disgrace to Michael,women and the human race.
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BROTHERLY LOOOOOOOVE moonwalk_/
(http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/brotherly-love-cheryl-ann-hardy.jpg)
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:cry: pale/
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Off topic since not only Jermaine but also KF is heating the soup in this thread for the time being.
Cuidado, meus amigos.
This is not about monkeys but about flying monkeys. That's different.
And it's not about a tweet but about a picture with a full moon, thus a moon that is completely divided.
Now considering the fan base in its actual emotional status, is that true or not?
As seen from Earth, the hemisphere of the Moon that is facing the earth (the near side) is almost fully illuminated by the Sun and appears round. Only during a full moon is the opposite hemisphere of the Moon, which is not visible from Earth (the far side), completely unilluminated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon
Coming back to twitter, there is this picture (not a tweet) that allegedly was sent by Karen Faye to another twitter user who allegedly happens to be from Brazil.
[attachment=1:25doqwuo]Flying Monkeys_20110507_2.jpg[/attachment:25doqwuo]
[attachment=0:25doqwuo]Flying Monkeys_20110507.jpg[/attachment:25doqwuo]
We have discussed the Flying or Winged Monkeys before.
Winged monkeys (often referred to in adaptations and popular culture as flying monkeys) are characters from The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, of enough impact between the books and the 1939 movie to have taken their own place in popular culture, regularly referenced in comedic or ironic situations as a source of evil or fear.
In the original Oz novels, the Winged Monkeys were once a free people, living in the forests of Oz.
Quelala and a sorceress named Gayelette punished the Winged Monkeys by making them the slaves to the Golden Cap.
Eventually the cap fell into the hands of the Wicked Witch of the West, who used the Winged Monkeys to conquer the Winkie Country, defeat the Great Oz, and capture Dorothy and the Cowardly Lion, destroying the Scarecrow and Tin Woodman in the process. Dorothy finally gave the cap to Glinda, who ordered the monkeys to carry Dorothy's companions back to their homes in Oz, and then to cease to bother people.
In the classic 1939 film The Wizard of Oz,the Winged Monkeys kidnap Dorothy and dismantle the Scarecrow, but do nothing to the Tin Man or the Cowardly Lion, leaving them free to put the Scarecrow back together and rescue Dorothy. Glinda ordered the monkeys to carry Dorothy's companions back to their homes in Oz, and then to cease to bother people, and then gave them the cap as their own, to free them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_monkeys
Why shouldn't Brazil play a role in this hoax?
Karen is executing a role since day 1.
I don't even read her because it's always the same and I don't expect anybody in this circle to tell the truth.
Coming back to the beauties of life, this is a brazilian tribute to Michael that is just charming:
[youtube:25doqwuo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_DLEysEqSM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:25doqwuo]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_DLEysEqSM&feature=player_embedded
Keep the faith.
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I just want to explain something, maybe you will understand. We all know Michael may have been in danger. Hypothetically speaking, lets say the people who are after him, is reading every single clue we found, what would be the outcome? They will know Michael is alive and will be looking for him. By Jermaine saying that we are wasting our time, and that he is dead it will remove all suspicions that Michael is alive. No one will be looking for him. Now it is all your choices to believe what you want to believe and understand what you want to understand. You also need to read between the lines, and analyse what Jermaine is trying to say and do. I hope this will help you to ease all your emotions. God bless.
P.S. PLEASE KEEP THE FAITH AND BE POSITIVE..
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I just want to explain something, maybe you will understand. We all know Michael may have been in danger. Hypothetically speaking, lets say the people who are after him, is reading every single clue we found, what would be the outcome? They will know Michael is alive and will be looking for him. By Jermaine saying that we are wasting our time, and that he is dead it will remove all suspicions that Michael is alive. No one will be looking for him. Now it is all your choices to believe what you want to believe and understand what you want to understand. You also need to read between the lines, and analyse what Jermaine is trying to say and do. I hope this will help you to ease all your emotions. God bless.
P.S. PLEASE KEEP THE FAITH AND BE POSITIVE..
Cognitive dissonance? :( :?
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I'm personally not very positive about Jermaine's antihoax tweets. I do not believe that he's talking antihoax just because he decided to protect Michael. The family has been saying that he's dead since day 1, that's protecting Michael but why need to speak about the hoax now? If the purpose was to take the attention on the hoax forum, Jermaine wrote antihoax tweets and that would be enough but he keeps on sending DMs to believers and saying that there's no hoax and he's gone. I do believe that the return plan was cancelled. I'm sure that Michael decided a return at the beginning but according to circumstances of the hoax, it was cancelled probably by the FBI. Probably it wasn't going to be safe for Michael to turn back into public life. Even if he's going to come back, it is not going to happen very soon. And Jermaine is talking antihoax because he doesn't want us to wait for Michael no more. This is my humble opinion and I'm hoping to be wrong about it. I'm sure that Michael is alive though but I don't get these antihoax speech of Jermaine as a good sign.
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@PureLove
he keeps on sending DMs to believers and saying that there's no hoax and he's gone.
How do you know that?
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I just want to explain something, maybe you will understand. We all know Michael may have been in danger. Hypothetically speaking, lets say the people who are after him, is reading every single clue we found, what would be the outcome? They will know Michael is alive and will be looking for him. By Jermaine saying that we are wasting our time, and that he is dead it will remove all suspicions that Michael is alive. No one will be looking for him. Now it is all your choices to believe what you want to believe and understand what you want to understand. You also need to read between the lines, and analyse what Jermaine is trying to say and do. I hope this will help you to ease all your emotions. God bless.
P.S. PLEASE KEEP THE FAITH AND BE POSITIVE..
In Michael’s own words
"Two Birds
It's hard to tell them what I feel for you.
They haven't ever met you, and no one has your picture.
So how can they ever understand your mystery?
Let's give them a clue:
Two birds sit in a tree.
One eats cherries, while the other looks on.
Two birds fly through the air.
One's song drops like crystal from the sky while the other keeps silent.
Two birds wheel in the sun.
One catches the light on its silver feathers,
while the other spreads wings of invisibility.
It's easy to guess which bird I am,
but they'll never find you. Unless...
Unless they already know a love that never interferes,
that watches from beyond that breathes free in the invisible air.
Sweet bird, my soul, your silence is so precious.
How long will it be before the world hears your song in mine?
Oh, that is a day I hunger for!"
_________________
L.O.V.E.
WHICH BIRD ARE WE :?:
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@PureLove
he keeps on sending DMs to believers and saying that there's no hoax and he's gone.
How do you know that?
They were posted on this thread. He sent one to Scorpionchick as well.
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I personally don't get why more people aren't making more connections from this past week AS A WHOLE.
There is a ton of them because a ton of things happened,big things.
One of them being the Barnum circus announcement by Staples immidiately after Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax 'the circus is coming back to town' in July-TGSOE
Both came right after Cirque's IMMORTAL announcement-TGSOE
the hoax tweets themselves-the hoax-TGSOE
The trial delayed which is the finale in TGSOE
not to mention directing hoards of traffic this way making the forum crash and have to be relocated,more people than ever are talking about it,we have new members all this time later,and now ontop of all this we have news that since KJ went and announced there was no proof ever found of Michael having anything to do with children all these authorities are popping us agreeing and truth and vindication are on the horizon!!
I have probably missed other things but feel free to add them on.
I'd say that is a pretty hefty amount to be connected up.
Where is my pencil...I have dots to join
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Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax but he didn't stop sending DMs about the hoax. He could have kept his silence about the hoax like they did till today but he didn't. If Michael's return was that close, wouldn't he think how the fans would hate him for lying about the hoax after Michael BAMs? What's he going to say if Michael returns this summer or anytime close? "I had to protect my brother."? Wasn't he already protecting him saying that he was gone? He needed to talk antihoax to protect him more? Wouldn't he know that especially the non-believers would be hating him if they learn that Michael is alive. I don't think so. I do believe that he talked anti-hoax because probably Michael asked him to and because he's not coming back. That's what makes sense to me unfortunately.
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Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax but he didn't stop sending DMs about the hoax. He could have kept his silence about the hoax like they did till today but he didn't. If Michael's return was that close, wouldn't he think how the fans would hate him for lying about the hoax after Michael BAMs? What's he going to say if Michael returns this summer or anytime close? "I had to protect my brother."? Wasn't he already protecting him saying that he was gone? He needed to talk antihoax to protect him more? Wouldn't he know that especially the non-believers would be hating him if they learn that Michael is alive. I don't think so. I do believe that he talked anti-hoax because probably Michael asked him to and because he's not coming back. That's what makes sense to me unfortunately.
How can Michael not come back if he has his children .. He will have to come back to get them. Nobody will be upset on Jermaine if Michael makes a statement, stating that it was for his protection. I will not be angry at Jermaine. Actually alot of people will praise him for being loyal to his brother. Once upon a time I use to hear that Jermaine was jealous of Michael because he was making so much money. Well this will prove once in for all that he loves his brother and he was loyal to him. I will stand my grounds in this. My intuitions never failed me and they will not fail me now.. Blessings.
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@PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 why not reply publicly and tell them EXACTLY what you just said to me. Why DMs?..
Waiting for the answer to this...
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Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax but he didn't stop sending DMs about the hoax. He could have kept his silence about the hoax like they did till today but he didn't. If Michael's return was that close, wouldn't he think how the fans would hate him for lying about the hoax after Michael BAMs? What's he going to say if Michael returns this summer or anytime close? "I had to protect my brother."? Wasn't he already protecting him saying that he was gone? He needed to talk antihoax to protect him more? Wouldn't he know that especially the non-believers would be hating him if they learn that Michael is alive. I don't think so. I do believe that he talked anti-hoax because probably Michael asked him to and because he's not coming back. That's what makes sense to me unfortunately.
How can Michael not come back if he has his children .. He will have to come back to get them. Nobody will be upset on Jermaine if Michael makes a statement, stating that it was for his protection. I will not be angry at Jermaine. Actually alot of people will praise him for being loyal to his brother. Once upon a time I use to hear that Jermaine was jealous of Michael because he was making so much money. Well this will prove once in for all that he loves his brother and he was loyal to him. I will stand my grounds in this. My intuitions never failed me and they will not fail me now.. Blessings.
I agree with you. The intuition is that he is coming back.
Jermaine is so unpopular between fans and believers I find it hard to believe any of his actions would be motivated by fear of being hated. If that were the case the man would never leave the house. Poor Jermaine. Seriously, people are viscous.
Additionally, Jermaine is the original liar in this hoax, I don't understand why some are taking anything he has to say as truth... especially when it is a complete 180* from what we all know to be true here. Jermaine was the first and only one to tell the world Michael is dead. So what's the difference? He just gave our group validity by referring to us.
Ps. I don't Piano Games is on the up n up if you know what I mean.
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Answer:Pianogames Nothing revealing, just pretty much abuse from the man himself. Offensive wording too! But I know EXACTLY why he wanted to contact me back.
Not that helpful..
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Jermaine’s tweet is confusing and yet very interesting. It could be based on the very possible reason which hesouttamylife described
I think that might be his way of telling us to shut up and be quiet. Rude yes. But to the point. Michael might not want the world to know. It might not even be safe for the world to know. It feels like it is time and they want to be on the side of precaution for him to re-enter the world. I've never believed he would come back the same Michael who left . He justs wants to return and live with some sense of normalcy. Just my opinion. Nothing etched in stone.
OR Jermaine’s tweet was to draw attention to this forum, like he tweeted before about the “defense’s TMZ leak” viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388&p=316795 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388&p=316795) with the result that lots of people got curious and jumped to the TMZ site to see what’s up! So Jermaine's tweet was in order to increase the number of hoax beLIEvers which could be one of the main targets of the hoax scenario and planning, see it as a kinda PR stunt. As I wrote before in viewtopic.php?f=219&t=18028&p=310494 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=219&t=18028&p=310494) :
“2011 will be the trial(S) (including delays) year with many surprises and more mysteries and a lot of media and internet attention, start Immortal Tour, Oprah in November, the group believers is still growing. In 2011 Michael's message "to get it right" via media sources internet, TMZ etc. will reach a bigger (believers) audience.” with the emphasis on PR for this forum ;) .
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This is a long thread and cant find the DMs jermain said.
Did the people who recieved them screenshot them and post them??
Im not saying it isnt true, but like everything in this drama i would like to see it with my own eyes.
(could someone tell me what page these DMs are on? Or repost them? x )
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When i send a DM it means i expect to remain private. Do you?
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DM is not so private i see.
what?
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Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax but he didn't stop sending DMs about the hoax. He could have kept his silence about the hoax like they did till today but he didn't. If Michael's return was that close, wouldn't he think how the fans would hate him for lying about the hoax after Michael BAMs? What's he going to say if Michael returns this summer or anytime close? "I had to protect my brother."? Wasn't he already protecting him saying that he was gone? He needed to talk antihoax to protect him more? Wouldn't he know that especially the non-believers would be hating him if they learn that Michael is alive. I don't think so. I do believe that he talked anti-hoax because probably Michael asked him to and because he's not coming back. That's what makes sense to me unfortunately.
How can Michael not come back if he has his children .. He will have to come back to get them. Nobody will be upset on Jermaine if Michael makes a statement, stating that it was for his protection. I will not be angry at Jermaine. Actually alot of people will praise him for being loyal to his brother. Once upon a time I use to hear that Jermaine was jealous of Michael because he was making so much money. Well this will prove once in for all that he loves his brother and he was loyal to him. I will stand my grounds in this. My intuitions never failed me and they will not fail me now.. Blessings.
I agree with you. The intuition is that he is coming back.
Jermaine is so unpopular between fans and believers I find it hard to believe any of his actions would be motivated by fear of being hated. If that were the case the man would never leave the house. Poor Jermaine. Seriously, people are viscous.
Additionally, Jermaine is the original liar in this hoax, I don't understand why some are taking anything he has to say as truth... especially when it is a complete 180* from what we all know to be true here. Jermaine was the first and only one to tell the world Michael is dead. So what's the difference? He just gave our group validity by referring to us.
First off, I'm NOT taking Jermiane's words as the truth! I already wrote that I still believe Michael is alive. If I believed what he wrote, I would have become a non-believer. Second of all, all of the MJ fans are following him on Twitter no matter what they feel for him, love him or hate him. So I do believe that he cares what they will say and feel after Michael BAMs. And can you imagine how the non-believers would treat him after they find out that he lied about the hoax? I do not believe Jerm neded to say this is not a hoax to protect Michael. As I wrote above, they were already protecting him by saying that he is gone. There is a HUGE difference btw saying that Michael is dead and saying this is not a hoax. We were the ones who were so happy to see the family not mentioning about the hoax. If it wasn't that important why did we show it as a clue that the family never mentioned about the hoax? In a couple of years, after the media start to unfollow the kids Michael can take his kids and they can even start living in another country. That's Michael Jackson we're talking about. No big deal for him to see his kids or to live with them if he wants to. I don't believe intuitions all the time as they can fail you. With the common sense, I get Jermiane's tweets as a bad sign and as the sign of a non-come back. Still I HOPE that I'm wrong about it. Wish I could agree with you guys.
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Jermaine’s tweet is confusing and yet very interesting. It could be based on the very possible reason which hesouttamylife described
I think that might be his way of telling us to shut up and be quiet. Rude yes. But to the point. Michael might not want the world to know. It might not even be safe for the world to know. It feels like it is time and they want to be on the side of precaution for him to re-enter the world. I've never believed he would come back the same Michael who left . He justs wants to return and live with some sense of normalcy. Just my opinion. Nothing etched in stone.
OR Jermaine’s tweet was to draw attention to this forum, like he tweeted before about the “defense’s TMZ leak” viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388&p=316795 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388&p=316795) with the result that lots of people got curious and jumped to the TMZ site to see what’s up! So Jermaine's tweet was in order to increase the number of hoax beLIEvers which could be one of the main targets of the hoax scenario and planning, see it as a kinda PR stunt. As I wrote before in viewtopic.php?f=219&t=18028&p=310494 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=219&t=18028&p=310494) :
“2011 will be the trial(S) (including delays) year with many surprises and more mysteries and a lot of media and internet attention, start Immortal Tour, Oprah in November, the group believers is still growing. In 2011 Michael's message "to get it right" via media sources internet, TMZ etc. will reach a bigger (believers) audience.” with the emphasis on PR for this forum ;) .
Okay beerchug I can see that. Different take. But a definite possibility indeed. Like your way of thinking.
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@PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 why not reply publicly and tell them EXACTLY what you just said to me. Why DMs?..
Waiting for the answer to this...
Woah he DMed Pianogames too? I wonder what he wrote to him? I gotta check out Tom's page. Thanks Sind. ;)
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So.. can anyone tell me what these DMs said please? What page are they on and were they screenshots?
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Wow, Jermaine really stirred up the pot I see.
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DM is not so private i see.
what?
Idk if you are on twitter but DM is actually a private message between 2 members. I don't think it's ok exposing them. Just like you wouldn't want your private messages shared here without your consent.
I'm talking in general, not about anyone personal. I don't think Jermaine will ever reply through private messages anymore if his confidence is abused. I would never ever disclose any private talk. If he wanted all the twitter to know, his tweet would have been public, even in reply @ to someone.
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Jermaine’s tweet is confusing and yet very interesting. It could be based on the very possible reason which hesouttamylife described
I think that might be his way of telling us to shut up and be quiet. Rude yes. But to the point. Michael might not want the world to know. It might not even be safe for the world to know. It feels like it is time and they want to be on the side of precaution for him to re-enter the world. I've never believed he would come back the same Michael who left . He justs wants to return and live with some sense of normalcy. Just my opinion. Nothing etched in stone.
OR Jermaine’s tweet was to draw attention to this forum, like he tweeted before about the “defense’s TMZ leak” viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388&p=316795 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388&p=316795) with the result that lots of people got curious and jumped to the TMZ site to see what’s up! So Jermaine's tweet was in order to increase the number of hoax beLIEvers which could be one of the main targets of the hoax scenario and planning, see it as a kinda PR stunt. As I wrote before in viewtopic.php?f=219&t=18028&p=310494 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=219&t=18028&p=310494) :
“2011 will be the trial(S) (including delays) year with many surprises and more mysteries and a lot of media and internet attention, start Immortal Tour, Oprah in November, the group believers is still growing. In 2011 Michael's message "to get it right" via media sources internet, TMZ etc. will reach a bigger (believers) audience.” with the emphasis on PR for this forum ;) .
Okay beerchug I can see that. Different take. But a definite possibility indeed. Like your way of thinking.
beerchug (I couldn't resist to use this smiley too LOL)
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Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax but he didn't stop sending DMs about the hoax. He could have kept his silence about the hoax like they did till today but he didn't. If Michael's return was that close, wouldn't he think how the fans would hate him for lying about the hoax after Michael BAMs? What's he going to say if Michael returns this summer or anytime close? "I had to protect my brother."? Wasn't he already protecting him saying that he was gone? He needed to talk antihoax to protect him more? Wouldn't he know that especially the non-believers would be hating him if they learn that Michael is alive. I don't think so. I do believe that he talked anti-hoax because probably Michael asked him to and because he's not coming back. That's what makes sense to me unfortunately.
How can Michael not come back if he has his children .. He will have to come back to get them. Nobody will be upset on Jermaine if Michael makes a statement, stating that it was for his protection. I will not be angry at Jermaine. Actually alot of people will praise him for being loyal to his brother. Once upon a time I use to hear that Jermaine was jealous of Michael because he was making so much money. Well this will prove once in for all that he loves his brother and he was loyal to him. I will stand my grounds in this. My intuitions never failed me and they will not fail me now.. Blessings.
I agree with you. The intuition is that he is coming back.
Jermaine is so unpopular between fans and believers I find it hard to believe any of his actions would be motivated by fear of being hated. If that were the case the man would never leave the house. Poor Jermaine. Seriously, people are viscous.
Additionally, Jermaine is the original liar in this hoax, I don't understand why some are taking anything he has to say as truth... especially when it is a complete 180* from what we all know to be true here. Jermaine was the first and only one to tell the world Michael is dead. So what's the difference? He just gave our group validity by referring to us.
First off, I'm NOT taking Jermiane's words as the truth! I already wrote that I still believe Michael is alive. If I believed what he wrote, I would have become a non-believer. Second of all, all of the MJ fans are following him on Twitter no matter what they feel for him, love him or hate him. So I do believe that he cares what they will say and feel after Michael BAMs. And can you imagine how the non-believers would treat him after they find out that he lied about the hoax? I do not believe Jerm neded to say this is not a hoax to protect Michael. As I wrote above, they were already protecting him by saying that he is gone. There is a HUGE difference btw saying that Michael is dead and saying this is not a hoax. We were the ones who were so happy to see the family not mentioning about the hoax. If it wasn't that important why did we show it as a clue that the family never mentioned about the hoax? In a couple of years, after the media start to unfollow the kids Michael can take his kids and they can even start living in another country. That's Michael Jackson we're talking about. No big deal for him to see his kids or to live with them if he wants to. I don't believe intuitions all the time as they can fail you. With the common sense, I get Jermiane's tweets as a bad sign and as the sign of a non-come back. Still I HOPE that I'm wrong about it. Wish I could agree with you guys.
I do agree with the underlined. But I do not agree that JJ would care that much about what people think. When you're in the public eye like he is, you would learn to not care what people say about you. You would also know that people are fickle, they change their minds on a whim. If you spend your life making decisions based on making other people happy, you will never be happy yourself. JJ is almost 60 years old and spent a lot of those years in the public eye. He must be at least somewhat aware of how people work. He is MJs brother after all. In this hoax, everything is scripted or none of it is. If you agree the "death" scene was scripted then everything after that is suspect. It's not real, it's all an illusion. Don't get too upset about anything that happens because just like any movie, every event is designed and choreographed to evoke a specific reaction from... us, the audience.
So either you're in it til the end or your out left forever with questions, and I know you're in it Pure Love. Hang in there and hang on.
Ps. It's not right to make DMs public. It's extremely bad form and disrespectful. Even referring to the content like Piano Games did is tacky. I'm telling you, watch that one.
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So.. can anyone tell me what these DMs said please? What page are they on and were they screenshots?
I give up. Im invisible. elvis_/
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I really hope TS says something about this, or even someone else from the family. What about Teddy Riley? Has he said anything about this? :?
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@PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 why not reply publicly and tell them EXACTLY what you just said to me. Why DMs?..
Waiting for the answer to this...
Woah he DMed Pianogames too? I wonder what he wrote to him? I gotta check out Tom's page. Thanks Sind. ;)
Apparently so,that's what he tweeted before anyway,not sure if he has told what was said just the 2nd tweet i've posted saying Jermaine was rude to him
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Jermaine stopped tweeting about the hoax but he didn't stop sending DMs about the hoax. He could have kept his silence about the hoax like they did till today but he didn't. If Michael's return was that close, wouldn't he think how the fans would hate him for lying about the hoax after Michael BAMs? What's he going to say if Michael returns this summer or anytime close? "I had to protect my brother."? Wasn't he already protecting him saying that he was gone? He needed to talk antihoax to protect him more? Wouldn't he know that especially the non-believers would be hating him if they learn that Michael is alive. I don't think so. I do believe that he talked anti-hoax because probably Michael asked him to and because he's not coming back. That's what makes sense to me unfortunately.
How can Michael not come back if he has his children .. He will have to come back to get them. Nobody will be upset on Jermaine if Michael makes a statement, stating that it was for his protection. I will not be angry at Jermaine. Actually alot of people will praise him for being loyal to his brother. Once upon a time I use to hear that Jermaine was jealous of Michael because he was making so much money. Well this will prove once in for all that he loves his brother and he was loyal to him. I will stand my grounds in this. My intuitions never failed me and they will not fail me now.. Blessings.
I agree with you. The intuition is that he is coming back.
Jermaine is so unpopular between fans and believers I find it hard to believe any of his actions would be motivated by fear of being hated. If that were the case the man would never leave the house. Poor Jermaine. Seriously, people are viscous.
Additionally, Jermaine is the original liar in this hoax, I don't understand why some are taking anything he has to say as truth... especially when it is a complete 180* from what we all know to be true here. Jermaine was the first and only one to tell the world Michael is dead. So what's the difference? He just gave our group validity by referring to us.
First off, I'm NOT taking Jermiane's words as the truth! I already wrote that I still believe Michael is alive. If I believed what he wrote, I would have become a non-believer. Second of all, all of the MJ fans are following him on Twitter no matter what they feel for him, love him or hate him. So I do believe that he cares what they will say and feel after Michael BAMs. And can you imagine how the non-believers would treat him after they find out that he lied about the hoax? I do not believe Jerm neded to say this is not a hoax to protect Michael. As I wrote above, they were already protecting him by saying that he is gone. There is a HUGE difference btw saying that Michael is dead and saying this is not a hoax. We were the ones who were so happy to see the family not mentioning about the hoax. If it wasn't that important why did we show it as a clue that the family never mentioned about the hoax? In a couple of years, after the media start to unfollow the kids Michael can take his kids and they can even start living in another country. That's Michael Jackson we're talking about. No big deal for him to see his kids or to live with them if he wants to. I don't believe intuitions all the time as they can fail you. With the common sense, I get Jermiane's tweets as a bad sign and as the sign of a non-come back. Still I HOPE that I'm wrong about it. Wish I could agree with you guys.
I couldn't explain my thoughts better, PureLove. As much as i try to make of Jermaine tweets a good sign (which is a little far fetched), they make me think of the message of a lover: "it's hard for me to do it, but i have to set you free. Because i DO love you".
By the way, i saw INCEPTION. ;)
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@PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 why not reply publicly and tell them EXACTLY what you just said to me. Why DMs?..
Waiting for the answer to this...
Woah he DMed Pianogames too? I wonder what he wrote to him? I gotta check out Tom's page. Thanks Sind. ;)
Apparently so,that's what he tweeted before anyway,not sure if he has told what was said just the 2nd tweet i've posted saying Jermaine was rude to him
Yeah I read that on his page too. Jerm is getting rude to believers. Not good at all.
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Believers started it. In his defense. argue/
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I do agree with the underlined. But I do not agree that JJ would care that much about what people think. When you're in the public eye like he is, you would learn to not care what people say about you. You would also know that people are fickle, they change their minds on a whim. If you spend your life making decisions based on making other people happy, you will never be happy yourself. JJ is almost 60 years old and spent a lot of those years in the public eye. He must be at least somewhat aware of how people work. He is MJs brother after all. In this hoax, everything is scripted or none of it is. If you agree the "death" scene was scripted then everything after that is suspect. It's not real, it's all an illusion. Don't get too upset about anything that happens because just like any movie, every event is designed and choreographed to evoke a specific reaction from... us, the audience.
So either you're in it til the end or your out left forever with questions, and I know you're in it Pure Love. Hang in there and hang on.
Thank you love. bearhug Ahh I'm in it, I'm like at the deepest end of the rabbit hole. :lol: I know that he is alive which is the most important thing in this hoax. But these recent tweets and DMs of Jermaine is making me lose my hope of a return. Now he's getting rude to believers. Anyways, we will wait and see where this journey is going to take us. ;) And we are all in it together. bearhug
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hey.. its invisible me again elvis_/
HOW DO WE KNOW JERMAINE HAS BEEN RUDE??? I SEE NO SCREENSHOTS AS PROOF OF THIS!!!!
WHERE IS THE PROOF??
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hey.. its invisible me again elvis_/
HOW DO WE KNOW JERMAINE HAS BEEN RUDE??? I SEE NO SCREENSHOTS AS PROOF OF THIS!!!!
WHERE IS THE PROOF??
You can't see DMs of people as you can not see PMs on this forum. Tom is a nice guy and he wouldn't lie about the way Jerm wrote to him. And for the DMs you are looking for, I found scorpion's on the 31st page of this thread. Here it is:
Today I tweeted Jermain to explain about "AIRPORT" slip up, he sent me a direct message saying the following: " if you understood grieif, you would understand verbal slip-ups made in grief confusion. It is not a clue,or proof or hope."
I replied, that I very much know what grief is, therefore I don't get slip up like that. And that he did not convinced me with that answer, but I thankful for his reply." I seriously can't imagine me confusing my dead parents being in airport instead of cemetery.
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hey.. its invisible me again elvis_/
HOW DO WE KNOW JERMAINE HAS BEEN RUDE??? I SEE NO SCREENSHOTS AS PROOF OF THIS!!!!
WHERE IS THE PROOF??
You can't see DMs of people as you can not see PMs on this forum. Tom is a nice guy and he wouldn't lie about the way Jerm wrote to him. And for the DMs you are looking for, I found scorpion's on the 31st page of this thread. Here it is:
I understand what a DM is and im sure Tom is a nice guy,..,...
SCREENSHOT WOULD BE PROOF.
Im too old and tired to accept peoples word on this... not to be rude to anyone, but if what Tom is saying is true then all he has to do is screenshot it. And be quick about it before Jermaine deletes it.
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Tom is a nice guy and he wouldn't lie about the way Jerm wrote to him.
Betcha there's no screenshot.
Remember he also said he saw a video of MJ with a date calendar in the screen that was post 6/25/09. That failed to materialize as well.
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Tom is a nice guy and he wouldn't lie about the way Jerm wrote to him.
Betcha there's no screenshot.
Remember he also said he saw a video of MJ with a date calendar in the screen that was post 6/25/09. That failed to materialize as well.
I dont believe Tom either. No screenshot has appeared. So i dont think its true.
SoSoDeaf uses that trick too... saying she has recieved DMs of this and that person.. then pretends not to know how to screenshot and then when someone tells her, the DM has been deleted all of a sudden.
Its an old and tired lie. I dont believe anything unless i see it.
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Bluff.
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Here is the DM notification I got on my personal email, I promised to post after my copy/paste problem gets solved. Here it is:
if u understood grief, you'd understand verbal slip-ups are made in grief's confusion. It is not a clue or proof or hope
Direct message sent by Jermaine Jackson (@jermjackson5) to you (@MJendless) on May 05, 2:42 PM.
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5
Everywhere!
Send a direct message
SMS D JERMJACKSON5 + message to 40404 or your local country code. Learn Twitter for Mobile.
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Ok Jermaine, we're now convinced by the hoax anyway. Nevermind the old slip-ups meant or not. But what's changed? Why do you want us to understand that It is not a clue or proof or hope ? What's changed? What's happening? Is this it?
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"Children of the world, we'll do it
We'll meet on endless shores
Making sandcastles and floating our boats
While people fight and defend their point of view
Forever putting on masks that are new
We'll swing the tide of time and do it.
Children of the world, we'll do it
With song and dance and innocent bliss
And the soft caress of a loving kiss
We'll do it.
While traders trade and haggle their price
And politicians try so hard to be nice
We'll meet on endless shores and floating our boats
We'll do it.
While lawyers argue and doctors treat
Stockbrokers quote the price on meat
While preachers preach and ring the bell
Carpetbaggers with something to sell
We'll sing and dance in innocent bliss
With the soft caress of a loving kiss
We'll do it.
Meeting on endless shores
Making sandcastles and floating our boats
We'll do it.
We'll ride the rainbow, a cloud, a storm
Flying in the wind, we'll change our form
We'll reach the stars, embrace the moon
We'll break the barrier and be there soon
While architects plan their buildings high
And trade unions raise their hue and cry
While boardroom squabbles generate heat
And in secret places dealers meet
We'll sing and dance in innocent bliss
And the soft caress of a loving kiss
We'll do it.
While philosophers grapple and continue to tackle
Endless dilemmas of body and mind
Physicists wander, continue to ponder
Perennial questions of space and time
Archeologists survey, continue to dig
Bygone treasures small and big
Psychologists probe, analyze the tears
Of hysterical notions, phobias, fears
While priests take confessions
In a serious session
And people struggle
In the hustle and bustle
In the noise and din
On the meaning of sin
We'll touch the stars, embrace the moon
Break the barrier, arrive there soon
Ride the rainbow, the cloud, the storm
Flying in the wind, changing our form
Children of the world, we'll do it
With song and dance and innocent bliss
The soft caress of a loving kiss
We'll do it."
Michael Jackson
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Here is the DM notification I got on my personal email, I promised to post after my copy/paste problem gets solved. Here it is:
if u understood grief, you'd understand verbal slip-ups are made in grief's confusion. It is not a clue or proof or hope
Direct message sent by Jermaine Jackson (@jermjackson5) to you (@MJendless) on May 05, 2:42 PM.
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5
Everywhere!
Send a direct message
SMS D JERMJACKSON5 + message to 40404 or your local country code. Learn Twitter for Mobile.
He should answer these publicly and not DM... why would he not want everyone to see and understand this?
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Here is the DM notification I got on my personal email, I promised to post after my copy/paste problem gets solved. Here it is:
if u understood grief, you'd understand verbal slip-ups are made in grief's confusion. It is not a clue or proof or hope
Direct message sent by Jermaine Jackson (@jermjackson5) to you (@MJendless) on May 05, 2:42 PM.
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5
Everywhere!
Send a direct message
SMS D JERMJACKSON5 + message to 40404 or your local country code. Learn Twitter for Mobile.
He should answer these publicly and not DM... why would he not want everyone to see and understand this?
agree I can't say why he sent DM, but I tweeted him back that I am not convinced just because I know grief & know that no one can make such a confusion . :D
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Tom is a nice guy and he wouldn't lie about the way Jerm wrote to him.
Betcha there's no screenshot.
Remember he also said he saw a video of MJ with a date calendar in the screen that was post 6/25/09. That failed to materialize as well.
That was Maura who said that, not Tom.
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Tom is a nice guy and he wouldn't lie about the way Jerm wrote to him.
Betcha there's no screenshot.
Remember he also said he saw a video of MJ with a date calendar in the screen that was post 6/25/09. That failed to materialize as well.
I dont believe Tom either. No screenshot has appeared. So i dont think its true.
SoSoDeaf uses that trick too... saying she has recieved DMs of this and that person.. then pretends not to know how to screenshot and then when someone tells her, the DM has been deleted all of a sudden.
Its an old and tired lie. I dont believe anything unless i see it.
You don't see Michael, so you don't believe he is alive? You don't believe Jermaine is sending DMs? Because one of the believers that he sent a DM is here and she's Scorpionchick. Is she lying too? We started not to believe each other too? These people who said that they received DMs from Jerm is just believers, they're among us. What's the reason to hesitate about them? I don't get it. Nobody can delete the DM s/he made, so no worries about the DMs getting deleted. Pianogames Tom can take a screenshot and show it if he wants to. It's a private message he received and he doesn't need to show anything to anyone else.
About Jermaine started to sending DMs, I could possibly think that he wrote the antihoax things to protect Michael or to take the attention on hoax forums BUT the purpose of sending DMs can not be any of these. It looks like he's trying to convince believers that Michael is gone for real.
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PURELOVE: Both the sender or reciever can delete the DM. So if Jermaine has sent the DM then he can also delete it out of PianoGames inbox.
What i am questioning is Toms assertion that Jermaine has sent him an ABUSIVE message. If that is true, then why Tom not screenshot and post it? Why just allude to it on a tweet and not tell us what it says? Seems odd to me.
If its so "private" - then why say anything at all?????
Im not saying he is lying, i am saying i am suspicious and i wont believe him on face value alone on this.
Oh,... im not 100% believer. Im seeking the truth with an open mind and heart. You are right.. i dont see Michael and there is a good chance he is dead and this hoax is just people playing with us all. Im open to all possibilities. I just want the truth so i can get closure. Without the truth, i am just hanging. No-one is telling us the truth right now.
So i question EVERYTHING. i believe NO-ONE if it doesnt seem or feel right to me. I make my own mind up and i think for myself.
With LOVE.
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PURELOVE: Both the sender or reciever can delete the DM. So if Jermaine has sent the DM then he can also delete it out of PianoGames inbox.
What i am questioning is Toms assertion that Jermaine has sent him an ABUSIVE message. If that is true, then why Tom not screenshot and post it? Why just allude to it on a tweet and not tell us what it says? Seems odd to me.
If its so "private" - then why say anything at all?????
Im not saying he is lying, i am saying i am suspicious and i wont believe him on face value alone on this.
Oh,... im not 100% believer. Im seeking the truth with an open mind and heart. You are right.. i dont see Michael and there is a good chance he is dead and this hoax is just people playing with us all. Im open to all possibilities. I just want the truth so i can get closure. Without the truth, i am just hanging. No-one is telling us the truth right now.
So i question EVERYTHING. i believe NO-ONE if it doesnt seem or feel right to me. I make my own mind up and i think for myself.
With LOVE.
Miss Peppers, my english is not that perfect so I think I expressed it wrong. Let me tell you what I wanted to say. Let's say that I sent you a DM on Twitter, ok? And you received it and read it. And then I went back to my sentbox and deleted the DM I sent you. That DM in your inbox which was sent by me doesn't get deleted UNLESS you decided to delete it yourself. So what I'm saying is, even if Jerm decides to delete the DMs he sent to believers, those DMs won't be get deleted in believers' inboxes.Unless the believers decide to delete them. Hope I'm clear now.
You're not 100% believer but there's something that brought you here. You found something/s that made you think if he could be alive. Even only this hesitation in you is half of believing. And you walked the half way of believing without seeing Michael physically. And with this hoax, I think we learned to believe in the things that we do not only see with our eyes but believe in the things we see with our hearts. Actually that's what brought us here and made us started to investigate. So, saying "I believe what I see" is an expression that fits with non-believers imo.
Questioning everything is good. That's what I'm doing as well. I do not believe anything blindly and I do not try to fool myself just to keep my hopes high. As for the DMs, I do believe what Tom wrote because I was into chat with him many times and he's such a very young and a very bright person. He's a nice guy too. He hasn't been following the hoax for a long time though. I personally do not believe that he would lie about what Jerm wrote to him and it wouldn't surprise me that Jerm was being rude to believers because he's protecting Karen fake now. And we all know how Karen behaves believers. So in my humble opinion there's no need to hesitate if Jerm sent DMs to believers or not because one of the believers is already on this forum, and she wrote what Jerm wrote to her. I think what we need to think about is, why Jermaine keeps on sending DMs to believers like he's trying to convince believers that he's gone for real which is not a good sign imo.
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PURELOVE Hello again. Seems we are the only two awake. bearhug
Sorry to labour this point, but in answer to your post i have quoted you here:
Miss Peppers, my english is not that perfect so I think I expressed it wrong. Let me tell you what I wanted to say. Let's say that I sent you a DM on Twitter, ok? And you received it and read it. And then I went back to my sentbox and deleted the DM I sent you. That DM in your inbox which was sent by me doesn't get deleted UNLESS you decided to delete it yourself. So what I'm saying is, even if Jerm decides to delete the DMs he sent to believers, those DMs won't be get deleted in believers' inboxes.Unless the believers decide to delete them. Hope I'm clear now.
This is not correct. You can try it yourself to see and you will find out that i am right.
If i send you a DM in twitter and, whether you read it or not, i can delete it out of my sent box and it WILL delete out of your inbox too.
Therefore both the sender and the reciever can delete DM's.
Try it for yourself. Send a friend a DM and then delete it. Ask your friend if its still in their inbox, and it wont be because you have deleted it. xxx
(every day is a school day) typing/
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PURELOVE Hello again. Seems we are the only two awake. bearhug
Sorry to labour this point, but in answer to your post i have quoted you here:
Miss Peppers, my english is not that perfect so I think I expressed it wrong. Let me tell you what I wanted to say. Let's say that I sent you a DM on Twitter, ok? And you received it and read it. And then I went back to my sentbox and deleted the DM I sent you. That DM in your inbox which was sent by me doesn't get deleted UNLESS you decided to delete it yourself. So what I'm saying is, even if Jerm decides to delete the DMs he sent to believers, those DMs won't be get deleted in believers' inboxes.Unless the believers decide to delete them. Hope I'm clear now.
This is not correct. You can try it yourself to see and you will find out that i am right.
If i send you a DM in twitter and, whether you read it or not, i can delete it out of my sent box and it WILL delete out of your inbox too.
Therefore both the sender and the reciever can delete DM's.
Try it for yourself. Send a friend a DM and then delete it. Ask your friend if its still in their inbox, and it wont be because you have deleted it. xxx
(every day is a school day) typing/
LOL yeah, it seems like it's just the two of us here. bearhug
And yes, You're right about it. afraid/ I've just tried it. It wasn't like that in old Twitter and damn in the new twitter, you're right. If the sender deletes the message, it is gone in your inbox too. Woahhh! errrr I'll be asking Tom to have a screen-shot before Jerm deletes his DMs. Thank you for telling me about this. And I learned something new from you today. Thank you dear. x :D bearhug
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@PureLove No problemos! beerchug
This is why i am saying PianoGames should screenshot the DM... because once its gone it will be gone forever.
I must get some sleep..... rr/
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Believers started it. In his defense. argue/
I agree with you. It amazes me how many believers send the family messages about Michael being alive. WTH people!? I don't blame Jermaine for getting rude with anyone. 1.) There is still a chance that Michael really is dead, so sending the family messages telling them that we know the "truth" is just downright disrespectful. And 2.) Even if Michael is alive and the family knows it, it's none of our business, so why anyone would think that the Jacksons will suddenly decide to spill the beans to a random bunch of strangers is beyond me. Perhaps we believers should start showing the family a little more respect. (And yes I do realize that not all of the believers are bothering the family, but many are.)
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@PureLove No problemos! beerchug
This is why i am saying PianoGames should screenshot the DM... because once its gone it will be gone forever.
I must get some sleep..... rr/
Nite nite hun. bearhug I've just written him to take a screenshot. If he doesn't see my tweet I'll be writing him again. beerchug
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Believers started it. In his defense. argue/
I agree with you. It amazes me how many believers send the family messages about Michael being alive. WTH people!? I don't blame Jermaine for getting rude with anyone. 1.) There is still a chance that Michael really is dead, so sending the family messages telling them that we know the "truth" is just downright disrespectful. And 2.) Even if Michael is alive and the family knows it, it's none of our business, so why anyone would think that the Jacksons will suddenly decide to spill the beans to a random bunch of strangers is beyond me. Perhaps we believers should start showing the family a little more respect. (And yes I do realize that not all of the believers are bothering the family, but many are.)
I agree. Unfortunately there're many believers who have no patience and respect. They push so hard to learn more like people can tell that Michael is alive and then we lose the ones who were trying to give us clues or we make them pissed off and they give answers to us that we expect the least. Everyone should be careful about what they are asking especially from the family. Actually it's too late unfortunately. They started to deny the hoax. I hope it stays with Jermaine only and not other members of the family starts to talk anti-hoax. People definitely stop to push it. As much as they scratch the wound, as much as it bleeds.
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i had another account on here but i totally forgot my password, Anyway to the important stuff on may 4th like at 12 am Jerms started tweeting about the hoax thing.. so i tweeted him and i first told him this "I wanted to die along with michael, why did none of u seem to feel the pain I felt! U guys seemed like his death didn't matter" -and why did u make the statement that ur brother the king of pop died? Why not an official dr from ucla?- He DM saying this - I have given you the truth. It saddens me that you cannot accept it, you are only denying yourself to mourn and heal. I than replied- @jermjackson5 I have mourned. Why is it the my heart doesn't feel it.. I try to Jermaine but I keep searching for him. @jermjackson5 all we want is the truth and we won't stop searching for it, Jermaine I can feel it in my heart Michael is not gone.
He never again wrote to me, Alot of people were writing to him the that night. At First i cried its a possibility, but when we look back there is no proof Michael is "Dead" if he was wheres the proof. Im not going to lose my faith because of Jerm. Im going to keep believing until i have solid proof michael is really gone.
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PURELOVE: Both the sender or reciever can delete the DM. So if Jermaine has sent the DM then he can also delete it out of PianoGames inbox.
All right, you are right, I just checked my twitt page, my direct msg. from Jermain was deleted. I could not send him DM because he does not follow me, so I tweeted my reply.
Now, I think maybe he wanted to check who among believers is a memebr here and whether that info will be posted here. I still keep notice in my personal email, he can't delete that......
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Has anyone heard anything yet from Tom he hasn't answered me yet I do believe him but we have all learnt that seeing is believing now it's been a long journey and we have learnt that
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Well, it looks to me like ALL of the sudden, it is important that Michael is thought to be dead again.....
Its funny how we end Bin Laden's life and start receiving threats again from terrorists. At the SAME TIME, as
the US is recieving threats for Killing Bin Laden, we have been told now that Michael Jackson is "REALLY DEAD"
and that we need to stop the increasing hoax talk. The trial is suspended too!
Anyone else doing the math here???
Michael's life could be in danger. His return would bring massive crowds.....a huge chance for a terrorist
strike. Actually if a terrorist even THOUGHT that Michael was alive, what a better way to strike back at
America with targeting our beloved Michael. So there could be MANY reasons for these tweets. Unfortunately,
I don't think Jermaine is playing games here. JMO
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PURELOVE: Both the sender or reciever can delete the DM. So if Jermaine has sent the DM then he can also delete it out of PianoGames inbox.quote]
All right, you are right, I just checked my twitt page, my direct msg. from Jermain was deleted. I could not send him DM because he does not follow me, so I tweeted my reply.
Now, I think maybe he wanted to check who among believers is a memebr here and whether that info will be posted here. I still keep notice in my personal email, he can't delete that......
hmmmmm Interesting suspicious//
Why did he delete his DM to you? hm
Why do you think they would want to see who are the members of this forum?
L.O.V.E to all!
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Well, it looks to me like ALL of the sudden, it is important that Michael is thought to be dead again.....
Its funny how we end Bin Laden's life and start receiving threats again from terrorists. At the SAME TIME, as
the US is recieving threats for Killing Bin Laden, we have been told now that Michael Jackson is "REALLY DEAD"
and that we need to stop the increasing hoax talk. The trial is suspended too!
Anyone else doing the math here???
Michael's life could be in danger. His return would bring massive crowds.....a huge chance for a terrorist
strike. Actually if a terrorist even THOUGHT that Michael was alive, what a better way to strike back at
America with targeting our beloved Michael. So there could be MANY reasons for these tweets. Unfortunately,
I don't think Jermaine is playing games here. JMO
We know from FBI files that Michael's fans have been threatened before by that crazy person errrr afraid/
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Well, it looks to me like ALL of the sudden, it is important that Michael is thought to be dead again.....
Its funny how we end Bin Laden's life and start receiving threats again from terrorists. At the SAME TIME, as
the US is recieving threats for Killing Bin Laden, we have been told now that Michael Jackson is "REALLY DEAD"
and that we need to stop the increasing hoax talk. The trial is suspended too!
Anyone else doing the math here???
Michael's life could be in danger. His return would bring massive crowds.....a huge chance for a terrorist
strike. Actually if a terrorist even THOUGHT that Michael was alive, what a better way to strike back at
America with targeting our beloved Michael. So there could be MANY reasons for these tweets. Unfortunately,
I don't think Jermaine is playing games here. JMO
We know from FBI files that Michael's fans have been threatened before by that crazy person errrr afraid/
YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine! crash/
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
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https://twitter.com/PianoGames (https://twitter.com/PianoGames)
Here you go. Patronising and insulting messages from Jermaine! So now I can't add up either! Thought id share it. http://t.co/AwaSa2G (http://t.co/AwaSa2G)
23 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
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https://twitter.com/PianoGames
Here you go. Patronising and insulting messages from Jermaine! So now I can't add up either! Thought id share it. http://t.co/AwaSa2G (http://t.co/AwaSa2G)
23 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
So i don't see anything patronizing and insulting in these msgs suspicious// it's all the same thing, he said nothing new here. Or is there something insulting to somebody?
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Good that those screenshots are posted, because clearly Tom's exaggerated tweets were not very accurate. Jermaine wasn't rude. The fact that Tom doesn't like the DM's, doesn't automatically mean that Jermaine was rude.
I don't get why people are paying so much attention to what Jermaine has to say, while for 2 years no one believed a thing he said. He even announced MJ's death, remember? What difference does this make?
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Good that those screenshots are posted, because clearly Tom's exaggerated tweets were not very accurate. Jermaine wasn't rude. The fact that Tom doesn't like the DM's, doesn't automatically mean that Jermaine was rude.
I don't get why people are paying so much attention to what Jermaine has to say, while for 2 years no one believed a thing he said. He even announced MJ's death, remember? What difference does this make?
EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!
No one ever said to us that Michael is alive!!!
And as i said before as well, Jermain was not rude, there is nothing insulting in his DM to Tom!
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YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine! crash/
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
Except that it hasn't had the desired effect - aren't MORE people talking, at least tweeting about the hoax now? If Jermaine or whoever wanted to hush us up, quietly shutting the site down would be a better bet. Souza has always said, one word from the family to her, and she'd close it down. Am I right Souza?
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Please listen carefully, Jermaine is pretty intelligent. He used reversed pshychology. If he would have said Michael is alive, some of the non believer would have said yeah right, he is bullshitting us.. Now for telling us that he is dead, Most of the non believers came into our forum. Souza has stated that the website was very slow from lots of traffic, meaning more people came into this forum to read all the postings. He advertise this forum without saying the truth. I think he did it un purpose to redirect people here, for them to learn the truth, to get the answer he could not give on twitter. He is the number one person who has been giving us clues since June 25/2009? Jermaine knew about this forum long way before ???? lolol/
I was most of the night up analysing all the clues we found, and it is impossible that Michael is dead. Unless these clues were planted by the killer. Just the paramedics not recognizing Michael they said old and frail, and the pic in the ambulance is a young Michael. It does not add up. I wish my posting will everyone have faith again, it hurts me to see all of you lose faith for what Jermaine has written. If Jermaine read this forum, Michael would have too. What would he think if we lost faith in him? bearhug Blessings.
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YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine! crash/
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
Except that it hasn't had the desired effect - aren't MORE people talking, at least tweeting about the hoax now? If Jermaine or whoever wanted to hush us up, quietly shutting the site down would be a better bet. Souza has always said, one word from the family to her, and she'd close it down. Am I right Souza?
Yes you are right. I have said that from the start. Closing down this forum will decrease the hoax talk and all they have to do is contact me in a way that I can verify it's really from the Jacksons and ask me to close down the site if they think we are in any way disrespectful to Mike or them or a danger to the hoax. This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk. It hasn't been this busy in ages and we have more new members signing up. So if his goal was to draw attention to the hoax, he has succeeded.
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YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine! crash/
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
Except that it hasn't had the desired effect - aren't MORE people talking, at least tweeting about the hoax now? If Jermaine or whoever wanted to hush us up, quietly shutting the site down would be a better bet. Souza has always said, one word from the family to her, and she'd close it down. Am I right Souza?
Yes you are right. I have said that from the start. Closing down this forum will decrease the hoax talk and all they have to do is contact me in a way that I can verify it's really from the Jacksons and ask me to close down the site if they think we are in any way disrespectful to Mike or them or a danger to the hoax. This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk. It hasn't been this busy in ages and we have more new members signing up. So if his goal was to draw attention to the hoax, he has succeeded.
Exactly I just wrote a post just before you did. I do not know if you read it.. blessings.
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YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine! crash/
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
Except that it hasn't had the desired effect - aren't MORE people talking, at least tweeting about the hoax now? If Jermaine or whoever wanted to hush us up, quietly shutting the site down would be a better bet. Souza has always said, one word from the family to her, and she'd close it down. Am I right Souza?
Yes you are right. I have said that from the start. Closing down this forum will decrease the hoax talk and all they have to do is contact me in a way that I can verify it's really from the Jacksons and ask me to close down the site if they think we are in any way disrespectful to Mike or them or a danger to the hoax. This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk. It hasn't been this busy in ages and we have more new members signing up. So if his goal was to draw attention to the hoax, he has succeeded.
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personally, i think that was exactly the intention. DMs, PMs, who cares? we got enough traffic here to crash the site from jermaine saying there is no hoax. can you imagine when the truth finally comes out? geez! jermaine is doing HIS PART. everyone has a role. jermaine is playing his. there are just too many inconsistencies for me to believe something someone (albeit family) tweeted. come on, i have a brain. i'm using it. it's going to take more than a tweet to convince me otherwise. don't lose faith guys. i honestly think that if we think this is hard, we haven't seen nothin yet. you better build tougher skin
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I'm expecting something new today. It's VE day + the Roman Breviary for May 8 relates the story of the apparition of Saint Michael at his sanctuary on Monte Gargano. Looks like the perfect day for a new rollercoaster trip, for those who are still on it.
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I'm expecting something new today. It's VE day + the Roman Breviary for May 8 relates the story of the apparition of Saint Michael at his sanctuary on Monte Gargano. Looks like the perfect day for a new rollercoaster trip, for those who are still on it.
Yes that is correct, I have been in Monte Gargano beautiful beaches,the Adriatic Sea. If anyone wants to have a nice vacation I strongly recommend it. Also Sicily has beautiful beaches. Souza have you ever been? You seem to know alot about it. I am Italian, so I do go to Italy to see my family.. I am due again lolol/ Blessings.
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I'm expecting something new today. It's VE day + the Roman Breviary for May 8 relates the story of the apparition of Saint Michael at his sanctuary on Monte Gargano. Looks like the perfect day for a new rollercoaster trip, for those who are still on it.
Yes that is correct, I have been in Monte Gargano beautiful beaches,the Adriatic Sea. If anyone wants to have a nice vacation I strongly recommend it. Also Sicily has beautiful beaches. Souza have you ever been? You seem to know alot about it. I am Italian, so I do go to Italy to see my family.. I am due again lolol/ Blessings.
Wiki baby! lolol/
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...... it hurts me to see all of you lose faith for what Jermaine has written. If Jermaine read this forum, Michael would have too. What would he think if we lost faith in him? Blessings.
Maybe that was the intention, you know - have everyone doubting again, losing faith, thinking he's dead after all, so the bam will be a shock for us too. It's possible. No fun for him having a forum full of know-alls!
[Like when the Maestro 'died' in Ghosts (I cried!) - ah then the joy of his big face in the doorway! It wouldn't have had the same impact if I'd known how it was going to turn out when I watched it the first time - hell, I didn't even know the Mayor was MJ! But that's totally another topic, sorry!]
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Im glad Tom decided to post the screenshot.
i dont see any abuse..... confused/
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Re: Jermaine Jackson - @jermjackson5 (verified)
by all4loveandbelieve » Sun May 08, 2011 10:44 am
Please listen carefully, Jermaine is pretty intelligent. He used reversed pshychology. If he would have said Michael is alive, some of the non believer would have said yeah right, he is bullshitting us.. Now for telling us that he is dead, Most of the non believers came into our forum. Souza has stated that the website was very slow from lots of traffic, meaning more people came into this forum to read all the postings. He advertise this forum without saying the truth. I think he did it un purpose to redirect people here, for them to learn the truth, to get the answer he could not give on twitter. He is the number one person who has been giving us clues since June
Exactly my thoughts!!!!! Either he wants to assure us that we are on the right track or he is trying to throw us off guard. But after thought about it for a while I would go with the first theory.
Much love to you all!
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Re: Jermaine Jackson - @jermjackson5 (verified)
by all4loveandbelieve » Sun May 08, 2011 10:44 am
Please listen carefully, Jermaine is pretty intelligent. He used reversed pshychology. If he would have said Michael is alive, some of the non believer would have said yeah right, he is bullshitting us.. Now for telling us that he is dead, Most of the non believers came into our forum. Souza has stated that the website was very slow from lots of traffic, meaning more people came into this forum to read all the postings. He advertise this forum without saying the truth. I think he did it un purpose to redirect people here, for them to learn the truth, to get the answer he could not give on twitter. He is the number one person who has been giving us clues since June
Exactly my thoughts!!!!! Either he wants to assure us that we are on the right track or he is trying to throw us off guard. But after thought about it for a while I would go with the first theory.
Much love to you all!
I really hope you are rght. I wonder if Jermaine and Teddy are in contact.
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I don't think they are abusive or patronising jermaine has always been polite apart from decades ago but it does not seem bad at all but he could have said a lot worse
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1.Yes, Jermaine does DM, it happened to me too but i would never expose a private message addressed to me only, on a forum or everywhere else in public.
2. I don't see any of Jermaine's tweets being rude, not even DM's. The fact that he doesn't encourage believers is not rude. But believers patronizing him is a fact, it's been done in public. Also, the way they pushed his hand with addressing the hoax from the start was disrespectful if not grotesque. And then, he addressed it finally. What answer were you expecting anyway?
Jermaine is pretty intelligent. He used reversed pshychology. If he would have said Michael is alive...
How could he say that? Is this why we're mad at him? Because if this is the reason, then believers are truly living in he "fantasy" world.
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Here is the DM notification I got on my personal email, I promised to post after my copy/paste problem gets solved. Here it is:
if u understood grief, you'd understand verbal slip-ups are made in grief's confusion. It is not a clue or proof or hope
Direct message sent by Jermaine Jackson (@jermjackson5) to you (@MJendless) on May 05, 2:42 PM.
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5
Everywhere!
Send a direct message
SMS D JERMJACKSON5 + message to 40404 or your local country code. Learn Twitter for Mobile.
Can I ask how you were able to get a DM from Jermaine if he is not following you? I thought you could only DM if you both were following each other? Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not as familiar with Twitter as I am with Facebook. Can someone explain this?
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*looks around*
No fantasy world here. Lol, trust me.
You just can't disregard 22 months of investigation and 22 months of inconsistencies and 22 months of conflicting reports and statements from all concerned parties because Jermaine says, yet again, that MJ is dead<---THAT would be irrational and delusional.
I am very well grounded in reality. I am a hoaxer.
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:yue8hagw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:yue8hagw]
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Nevermind....I figured out the Twitter thing........I guess I'm learning new things every day.
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Can I ask how you were able to get a DM from Jermaine if he is not following you?
It is, if you follow him.
Bec, i am sure you are grounded but do some believers really expect Jermaine to say Michael is other than dead?
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Can I ask how you were able to get a DM from Jermaine if he is not following you?
It is, if you follow him.
Bec, i am sure you are grounded but do some believers really expect Jermaine to say Michael is other than dead?
Not sure. They probably aren't sure either. But trial delay was a big blow to us, and some's confidence was shaken... then along comes Jermaine, and he just gave it a little tap... and down it came for some I guess.
Refresh, regroup, refocus... and hoax on says me.
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1.Yes, Jermaine does DM, it happened to me too but i would never expose a private message addressed to me only, on a forum or everywhere else in public.
2. I don't see any of Jermaine's tweets being rude, not even DM's. The fact that he doesn't encourage believers is not rude. But believers patronizing him is a fact, it's been done in public. Also, the way they pushed his hand with addressing the hoax from the start was disrespectful if not grotesque. And then, he addressed it finally. What answer were you expecting anyway?
Jermaine is pretty intelligent. He used reversed pshychology. If he would have said Michael is alive...
How could he say that? Is this why we're mad at him? Because if this is the reason, then believers are truly living in he "fantasy" world.
I am not mad at him at all. He is protecting his brother, and that is brotherly love. If he would have said yes Michael is alive then I would have been mad because, if Michael is in danger as we suspect he is jeopardizing Michael's life, HE HAS TO PROTECT HIS BROTHER. I will give you an advise, ask yourself what would you have done if you were Jermaine? I find whom ever asked the question cornered him to the wall, that was his defense mechanism. For me he has answered very well. blessings.
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Has anyone asked Teddy Riley what he thinks about Jermaine's recent tweets? I think that would be interesting..
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If he'd ever answer anyone, DM or public... typing/
My personal opinion is that Teddy R. stopped hoax talking cause family asked him to.
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Here is a quicker version of the interview - 22 seconds to be exact thanks to @ella303 on twitter
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k)
[youtube:2p9gqtjq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k[/youtube:2p9gqtjq]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:2p9gqtjq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:2p9gqtjq]
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finfin wrote:
Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Here is a quicker version of the interview - 22 seconds to be exact thanks to @ella303 on twitter
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k)
The video is very interesting. It reminds of LaToya who said something similar a while ago. Didn't she say she knows who killed MJ and if the police will not tell, she will?
I find it very weird if both Jermaine and LaToya "know" who killed their brother that none of them would go to the police and say so. Then people wouldn't have to speculate if it was Murray and they would have clear suspects etc. It would make the trial easier and everything. Instead the family just stands by and waits. And you don't hear them complaining a lot that the trial is being delayed. We, as fans, seem to be more upset about it. Wouldn't they have a saying in the delay as well? Or are they just bystanders in the trial?
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Here is a quicker version of the interview - 22 seconds to be exact thanks to @ella303 on twitter
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k)
[youtube:14359q41]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k[/youtube:14359q41]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:14359q41]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:14359q41]
Thank you so much for the videos finfin!!! bearhug
I like what Michael's biographer said that Michael wouldn't listen to what other people say him to do, he did only what he wanted and lived his life as he wanted to! THAT'S REAL MICHAEL! Not a little helpless child as everyone is trying to picture him, that bad people were controlling Michael. :D
Oh yeah Jermain, WE ALSO KNOW WHO THEY ARE :lol: :lol: :lol:
L.O.V.E
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:3e6stuke]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:3e6stuke]
:lol: I know, its pretty obvious, and that didn't sound like a protective (as Janet puts it) or nervous laughter. Jermaine, Janet and Michael are a lot alike in the fact that they smile and laugh a lot when they are HAPPY! Not sad! And the guy beside him looks like he's about to laugh, too. a few people are insiders at CNN, I bet. LK is one definitely.
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Here is the DM notification I got on my personal email, I promised to post after my copy/paste problem gets solved. Here it is:
if u understood grief, you'd understand verbal slip-ups are made in grief's confusion. It is not a clue or proof or hope
Direct message sent by Jermaine Jackson (@jermjackson5) to you (@MJendless) on May 05, 2:42 PM.
Jermaine Jackson
@jermjackson5
Everywhere!
Send a direct message
SMS D JERMJACKSON5 + message to 40404 or your local country code. Learn Twitter for Mobile.
Can I ask how you were able to get a DM from Jermaine if he is not following you? I thought you could only DM if you both were following each other? Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not as familiar with Twitter as I am with Facebook. Can someone explain this?
since I follow him, he can DM me, I could not DM him, because he does not follow me.
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:15j6d0gc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:15j6d0gc]
Thanks for posting this...the laugh at the end is unbelievable!!! Everyone should watch this! :o
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YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine! crash/
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
Except that it hasn't had the desired effect - aren't MORE people talking, at least tweeting about the hoax now? If Jermaine or whoever wanted to hush us up, quietly shutting the site down would be a better bet. Souza has always said, one word from the family to her, and she'd close it down. Am I right Souza?
Yes you are right. I have said that from the start. Closing down this forum will decrease the hoax talk and all they have to do is contact me in a way that I can verify it's really from the Jacksons and ask me to close down the site if they think we are in any way disrespectful to Mike or them or a danger to the hoax. This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk. It hasn't been this busy in ages and we have more new members signing up. So if his goal was to draw attention to the hoax, he has succeeded.
I disagree. How many hoax forums are there around? I know 5 already but I'm sure that there're more. And there're hundreds of hoax videos. They do not need to bother with closing the forums and removing the hoax videos but writing that this is not a hoax is a shorter and faster way. And even if they close the hoax forums, they know that we will open new ones. That wouldn't be a solution. And Jerm doesn't keep on talking about the hoax on his Twitter but sending DMs to believers. So who are talking more about the hoax now? Again the hoaxers, because they're the ones who receive the DMs from Jermaine. We always have had new members signing on the forum, it's nothing new. So I don't believe that his goal was to draw the attention to the hoax forums, because if it was so he would keep on posting on his Twitter, and not send any DMs to believers only.
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1.Yes, Jermaine does DM, it happened to me too but i would never expose a private message addressed to me only, on a forum or everywhere else in public.
2. I don't see any of Jermaine's tweets being rude, not even DM's. The fact that he doesn't encourage believers is not rude. But believers patronizing him is a fact, it's been done in public. Also, the way they pushed his hand with addressing the hoax from the start was disrespectful if not grotesque. And then, he addressed it finally. What answer were you expecting anyway?
Jermaine is pretty intelligent. He used reversed pshychology. If he would have said Michael is alive...
How could he say that? Is this why we're mad at him? Because if this is the reason, then believers are truly living in he "fantasy" world.
I am not mad at him at all. He is protecting his brother, and that is brotherly love. If he would have said yes Michael is alive then I would have been mad because, if Michael is in danger as we suspect he is jeopardizing Michael's life, HE HAS TO PROTECT HIS BROTHER. I will give you an advise, ask yourself what would you have done if you were Jermaine? I find whom ever asked the question cornered him to the wall, that was his defense mechanism. For me he has answered very well. blessings.
He's protecting his brother by sending DMs to believers? Sorry but that is only wishful thinking. Is he protecting his brother from us, believers? You forget that Jermaine is NOT tweeting no more about the hoax but sending DMs to believers only. This has nothing to do with protecting Michael. This simply looks like he's trying to convince us that he's gone for real. They want us to give up our hoax investigation imo.
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Has anyone asked Teddy Riley what he thinks about Jermaine's recent tweets? I think that would be interesting..
Yes, I saw many people tweeted him about what's going on. He didn't tweet anything about this issue but he wrote that he's in Korea still but he will be back. So we'll wait and see what he says about this if he says for sure.
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Well PureLove, if that is what you think, maybe you should quit the hoax, right?
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Gonna take more then Jermaine twittering for me to walk.
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Well PureLove, if that is what you think, maybe you should quit the hoax, right?
Yes, I do think that they want us to quit. I didn't say that's what I want. I know that you do not like to see negative posts but this is what I think about this DM issue. I'm being realistic here. Sorry if it disturbs you Souza but I have the right to write what I think about it like everyone else. And as an objective admin of the forum, I think you should stop asking people to leave politely when they post something negative about something. Yes, I'm negative about Jermaine's tweets and DMs but it doesn't make me a negative person and I do not post negativity on the forum all the time. You shouldn't confuse me with some other members.
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Well PureLove, if that is what you think, maybe you should quit the hoax, right?
Yes, I do think that they want us to quit. I didn't say that's what I want. I know that you do not like to see negative posts but this is what I think about this DM issue. I'm being realistic here. Sorry if it disturbs you Souza but I have the right to write what I think about it like everyone else. And as an objective admin of the forum, I think you should stop asking people to leave politely when they post something negative about something. Yes, I'm negative about Jermaine's tweets and DMs but it doesn't make me a negative person and I do not post negativity on the forum all the time. You shouldn't confuse me with some other members.
PureLove, you really need to take a break. AGAIN you are assuming things and twisting my words. I did NOT ask you to leave, I simply said that if you believe that, you should decide to quit, because YOU think the family wants that. Watch your own posts lately, you are loosing faith over the tiniest things and clearly have forgotten all the rest. I don't mind, but when you are dismissing the FACT that Jermaine's tweets attrackted more people to the forum, while I am the one who KNOWS how much traffic this website has, is ignorant. If you want to believe that Jermaine, who has been telling us he's dead for 2 years, is asking us to quit, fine. But do not pretend to know things you know nothing about and do not judge me just because this hoax is getting to much for you.
About Jermaine DM-ing hoaxers: WHY would he do that at all? MAYBE because they are ASKING for it, by sending him tweets of which they know he can't answer. What do people expect? By continuously tweeting him about why he says that, people are showing their own weakness. I don't have to tweet Jermaine and ask or demand answers, because 1.) I know he will either ignore me or lie and 2.) because I am still 110% convinced he is alive and that this is part of the show.
Jermaine knows damn well that I will close this down if they ask me. If it's needed, I will because I do this for Mike, not for myself. So as soon as you enter http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com) and the page says: This website is deleted by request of the Jackson Family, I would have done it because this site is not helpful to Mike and that he will most likely indeed never come back. The moment that I loose faith (not that he's dead, I will never believe that) is when I have actual proof or confirmation from the family that there is no use and the hoax is creating false hope. Members know that, I have said that from day one. So when they will see such a message, believe me, MANY people will loose faith. MANY will quit the hoax. How many times are people loosing faith over the most unimportant issues? And you think closing this down would not effect the hoaxers? So by emailing me (if he's really so concerned about us hoaxers being so 'hurt' he would achieve WAY more than with a few tweets and dm's to demanding hoaxers who are asking him the impossible.
So stop assuming things PureLove. Take a break and iboprufen and get back in a week. You might see more clearly by then.
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Well this has all gotten slightly out of hand hasn't it...
Souza!off topic...loving this quick reply feature!
@Bec same here,I just want the tweet fighting between fans to stop...it's getting boring now.
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PureLove, you really need to take a break. AGAIN you are assuming things and twisting my words. I did NOT ask you to leave, I simply said that if you believe that, you should decide to quit, because YOU think the family wants that. Watch your own posts lately, you are loosing faith over the tiniest things and clearly have forgotten all the rest. I don't mind, but when you are dismissing the FACT that Jermaine's tweets attrackted more people to the forum, while I am the one who KNOWS how much traffic this website has, is ignorant. If you want to believe that Jermaine, who has been telling us he's dead for 2 years, is asking us to quit, fine. But do not pretend to know things you know nothing about and do not judge me just because this hoax is getting to much for you.
Souza seriously I'm getting tired of writing this over and over but once again; I DIDN'T LOSE MY HOPE OR FAITH!!! MICHAEL IS ALIVE!!! DO I need to write it again? I don't believe in a return no more and that is NOT losing hope or faith. I'm writing my opinion about Jerm's DMs and it looks like it obviously disturbs you. I write what I see and I do not make posts to support others' ideas just to support them. I can not fool myself by saying everything is ok in the hoaxland because it is not. It's ok when people write Jermaine did it to get the attention on the hoax but it is not good when I write that Jerm did it to convince us that he's gone? And I need to get a break for what exactly? Because I got Jermaine's DMs as a negative sign for the return? Thank you for your recommendation but I'll pass that. I can decide better my own if I need a break or not. Or maybe you should simply ask from the members not to post anything negative even if that's what they think.
About Jermaine DM-ing hoaxers: WHY would he do that at all? MAYBE because they are ASKING for it, by sending him tweets of which they know he can't answer. What do people expect? By continuously tweeting him about why he says that, people are showing their own weakness. I don't have to tweet Jermaine and ask or demand answers, because 1.) I know he will either ignore me or lie and 2.) because I am still 110% convinced he is alive and that this is part of the show.
The believers have been asking ALL family members about the hoax since day 1. This is not the first time they're asking Jermaine about the hoax. The question is, why did he decide to send DMs now? Unfortunately people push things so hard but this is not the first time they're pushing Jermaine. What could be the purpose of sending believers DMs and telling that Michael is gone after two years is the question I ask myself. And the answer I can find is, because they want us to give up. I would love to hear yours too.
Jermaine knows damn well that I will close this down if they ask me. If it's needed, I will because I do this for him, not for myself. So as soon as you enter http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com) and the page says: This website is deleted by request of the Jackson Family, I would have done it because this site is not helpful to Mike and that he will most likely indeed never come back. The moment that I loose faith (not that he's dead, I will never believe that) is when I have actual proof or confirmation from tha family that there is no use and the hoax is creating false hope. Members know that, I have said that from day one. So when they will see such a message, believe me, MANY people will loose faith. MANY will quit the hoax. How many times are people loosing faith over the most unimportant issues? And you think closing this down would not effect the hoaxers? So by emailing me (if he's really so concerned about us hoaxers being so 'hurt' he would achieve WAY more than with a few tweets and dm's to demanding hoaxers who are asking him the impossible.
So stop assuming things PureLove. Take a break and an iboprufen and get back in a week. You might see more clearly by then.[/color]
Souza, Jermaine or any family member doesn't know you personally, so you should stop assuming what Jermaine would know what you would do if he asked you to close the forum. Hoaxers have already started to lose their hope. I see people giving up on Twitter. I started to think that there will be no come back but people believed what Jermaine wrote and they lost their hope that Michael is alive already. Closing the forums would have a worse effect on them for sure but why bother to waste their time with closing the forums? Jerm already made lots of hoaxers lose their hopes.
And thank you for your concern but I'm not assuming anything, I'm just stating my opinion like the rest of you are doing here. You can give me a break if you want to but that's definitely not what I'm going to do. I see everything so clearly.
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I disagree with you on nearly anything you said, but I will not go into discussion with you, I will simply ignore you for a while. You are making my blood boil lately and if I keep reading your posts, I might say stuff I shouldn't. You have so much anger and frustration in your posts, it effects my state of mind. Not good, you are projecting your negativity on me and I am not going there.
You know, DON'T take a break and keep your negative feelings, frustrations and migraines. Your choice. Happy hoaxing.
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Good that those screenshots are posted, because clearly Tom's exaggerated tweets were not very accurate. Jermaine wasn't rude. The fact that Tom doesn't like the DM's, doesn't automatically mean that Jermaine was rude.
I don't get why people are paying so much attention to what Jermaine has to say, while for 2 years no one believed a thing he said. He even announced MJ's death, remember? What difference does this make?
I think like you .... who is Jermaine?? errrr
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I disagree with you on nearly anything you said, but I will not go into discussion with you, I will simply ignore you for a while. You are making my blood boil lately and if I keep reading your posts, I might say stuff I shouldn't. You have so much anger and frustration in your posts, it effects my state of mind. Not good, you are projecting your negativity on me and I am not going there.
You know, DON'T take a break and keep your negative feelings, frustrations and migraines. Your choice. Happy hoaxing.
You need to take a look in the mirror first Souza. Your blood boils when people disagree with you. I'm not the first and not going to be the last. Sorry that I couldn't cherish you by aggreing what you wrote but as I wrote before I stated my opinion. You were the one who asked me to quit if that's what I thought and I wrote you that it wasn't. I see you jump on people when they write something negative when you think that thing is positive. People do not need to see the same thing with you. Accept that and move on. Pls do not read my posts, I would love that because you're definitely politely asking people to leave when it doesn't suit your feelings and that boils my blood as well. Happy hoaxing to you too.
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Hmmm, I hate all of these disagreements here but everyone has their own valid points. We need to
stop and figure out WHY NOW?? Why did Jermaine address us now after 2 years of ignoring us. Clearly there
is something to gain from telling us Michael is gone. Either he is protecting MIchael (which most of you don't
agree with) or something else.
There are 4 options left:
1. Michael wants the hoax talk to chill so that when he returns it will be a huge surprise to the rest of the
world.
2. Jermaine knows that Michael is alive but never returning to the public. He associates us believing that
Michael is alive with us expecting a return which he knows won't happen. He wants us to get it through our
heads that the KING OF POP is dead.
3. Michael has pushed the bam off to a later date for his own personal reasons.
4. Michael has died.
Option 4 is not an option for me right now so we are left with the 3 most likely theories. suspicious//
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Hmmm, I hate all of these disagreements here but everyone has their own valid points. We need to
stop and figure out WHY NOW?? Why did Jermaine address us now after 2 years of ignoring us. Clearly there
is something to gain from telling us Michael is gone. Either he is protecting MIchael (which most of you don't
agree with) or something else.
There are 4 options left:
1. Michael wants the hoax talk to chill so that when he returns it will be a huge surprise to the rest of the
world.
2. Jermaine knows that Michael is alive but never returning to the public. He associates us believing that
Michael is alive with us expecting a return which he knows won't happen. He wants us to get it through our
heads that the KING OF POP is dead.
3. Michael has pushed the bam off to a later date for his own personal reasons.
4. Michael has died.
Option 4 is not an option for me right now so we are left with the 3 most likely theories. suspicious//
EXACTLY! Thank you Lovelyone. That's what I've been saying. WHY NOW? Options 1-2-3 sound so plausible to me. Also FBI might have cancelled or delayed the return because of security issues. I thought about the possibility of option 1 as well but wouldn't it be cruel to make believers think that he is gone? But maybe like you wrote, he wants to shock everyone including the believers. Option 2 sounds more plausible to me unfortunately because Jermaine is still sending DMs to believers.
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We also have to remember that Jermaine, along with the rest of the Jackson fam, have been in the business for over 40 yrs. They know how to create Controversy to work in their favor. Whatever you get from his tweets is what you get from it. End of story. In this hoax, it is your own individual choices what to believe and what to dismiss. But we are ALL sharing the excitement and the mystery together. So a little more unity is much needed. Love you guys, you are all very intelligent and I admire a lot of you! :D
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I find we are all going against eachother here. Yes we do all have our own opinions. We should take these opinions and put them together so we can come to a conclusion. Michael will come back, remember he has 3 children, he is not leaving his children with Katherine for the rest of his life! So that over rules it. He will come back for his children. First of all are you 100% sure that it is Jermaine DM believers? Can it be someone who hacked into his account and wrote all of this to cause havoc? It seems no one reads and tries to understand my posts. It is very frustrating. I said try to analyse what Jermaine wrote or whom ever it was. There are two sides of a coin, check both sides before everyone loses hope, and faith. I had twitter, I deactivated my account long time ago, for me it was a waste of time and engergy. I find it is just a waste of time to write posts and no one ( with some exceptions) tries to understand what I wrote and put it into practice.
When you analyse a situation, you will have more of a clear answer.
wish you all the best.. blessings.
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Maybe Marlon will tweet saying it's not really Jermaine's account...
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Maybe Marlon will tweet saying it's not really Jermaine's account...
:lol: Now that would be something. But Jerm is tweeting to Halima and she's replying to his tweets. So both of their accounts had to be hacked if that was the case. Halima knows it if that's her hubby or not I guess. lolol/ But anything is possible, who knows. We'll wait and see.
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I have to admit that I neither get the emotional turmoil on postponing the "official" trial nor do I get the emotions over Jermaine lingering in this board lately.
Maybe I am too blonde in both areas or too happy in my observing lookout.
(http://home.pages.at/alfred/a/b/erdmaennchen.jpg)
Neither the first nor the last one of those activities is irritating me.
As long as the "official" trial is not done, Michael HAS to be officially dead.
We here should know this. And if the world explodes around us, Michael HAS to be officially dead and we must know this.
Imagine a public lottery for the courtroom and half of public witnesses would be hoaxers, waving posters of
"CRM we love you!"
"Support CRM, Michael is ALIVE"
"No kill, no painS"
"MJJ for President & CRM Secretary of State"
or
"Cali court = Banana court".
Simply NOT feasible for the purpose of the script as far as we have understood it.
Maybe we didn't get to the overall bottom yet, maybe we didn't understand all aspects yet.
However, in order to have a detonation to tear down walls and not just launch a fireworks display for some neat colouring effects, there MUST be controversy, heat, anger, emotional involvement, being hooked, stuck, loaded in the public. Jermaine is doing the personal sting to whoever is following him - he has only this choice of HIS public.
When the unofficial public opinion and the "official" trial can work out in parallel, there will be the "unloading" and that will be the Tsunami of people being fed up with what's going wrong in this world.
Michael does not need to execute any BAM.
It's us BAMMING for Michael. When the time is right.
We will be getting there. With the L.O.V.E.
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Well this has all gotten slightly out of hand hasn't it...
@Bec same here,I just want the tweet fighting between fans to stop...it's getting boring now.
And why DM Jermaine? Doesn´t matter what he writes, people will remain thinking what they want...
Does anybody remember the film "life of Brian"?
Well, some parts of the twitter story remind me on that:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJYQ9LKGQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJYQ9LKGQ)
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Well this has all gotten slightly out of hand hasn't it...
@Bec same here,I just want the tweet fighting between fans to stop...it's getting boring now.
And why DM Jermaine? Doesn´t matter what he writes, people will remain thinking what they want...
Does anybody remember the film "life of Brian"?
Well, some parts of the twitter story remind me on that:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJYQ9LKGQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0uMJYQ9LKGQ)
I do haha,such a funny film.
I have connected up enough dots from last week to conclude,I believe more than ever
Sorry Jman but your attempt to reach my hurting and pain from being in denial has failed :mrgreen:
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why is everyone forgetting that the reason Jermaine tweeted about the hoax in the first place is because SOMEONE FROM THIS FORUM GOADED HIM INTO IT.
They tweeted him over and over again about this forum... and Jermaine finally responded.
Be careful what you ask for.....
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As far as I remember, it was a person called Vera_60 who sent all the tweets.
Ok I´m no native English speaker and maybe I´m wrong, but I got the impression that it wasn´t a member of this forum, but just anyone who forced him to a reaction, and afterwards it came out that it was just a trap.
Wasn´t nice anyway whoever it was. :?
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why is everyone forgetting that the reason Jermaine tweeted about the hoax in the first place is because SOMEONE FROM THIS FORUM GOADED HIM INTO IT.
They tweeted him over and over again about this forum... and Jermaine finally responded.
Be careful what you ask for.....
YES!!!!!!! Thank you bounce/ bounce/ bounce/ . Now, I have no idea if it was one of US or not, but its pathetic nonetheless. Did you really think that if you interrogated the man on Twitter (lmao) that he would feel the pressure and finally say "OK OK, Fine he is alive. After two years of covering for my brother and confirming that is D.E.A.D., finally it is just too much for me. I'm so sorry Mike but I gotta let the cat outta the bag. Yes, he is alive! What more do you want?! I'm only huuuuman errrr "? Lol, come on! He knows you believe, and he appreciates that you do. He isn't going to tell you he appreciates it because that would defeat the entire purpose of the hoax. Some of you may need to take a vacation, go lay on the beach. Or meditate, take a yoga class.
I swear, you can't pick them all to your liking. You have to accept the crazies with any cause you sign up for, and the BeLIEver community is no exception. Have some patience and leave Jermaine alone unless it is to send support to him and his family. I tweeted to him that I'm a believer and I feel its disgusting the way he is attacked. I don't expect a tweet back, if I get one back its a very generous gesture on his part. But i don't believe i have the RIGHT to know anything. Just take a breather and enjoy life, don't take everything so seriously. Donate food and toys and clothes to charities around the world, something MJ wanted you to do. He doesn't want us to find him, so STOP! Some are missing the point completely and I find it a little annoying, I can only imagine how it makes Michael feel :roll:
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He doesn't want us to find him, so STOP! Some are missing the point completely and I find it a little annoying, I can only imagine how it makes Michael feel :roll: [/i][/b]
I agree with everything in your post, Moon, except these last two sentences. Personally, I do not know what MJ wants from us, and I'm really not sure of 'the point'! Until or unless he comes and tells me, then whatever I think is purely speculation. Good post nonetheless!
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Maybe Marlon will tweet saying it's not really Jermaine's account...
:lol: Now that would be something. But Jerm is tweeting to Halima and she's replying to his tweets. So both of their accounts had to be hacked if that was the case. Halima knows it if that's her hubby or not I guess. lolol/ But anything is possible, who knows. We'll wait and see.
Isn't that strange that husband and wife are tweeting to eachother they can talk can't they?
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I find we are all going against eachother here. Yes we do all have our own opinions. We should take these opinions and put them together so we can come to a conclusion. Michael will come back, remember he has 3 children, he is not leaving his children with Katherine for the rest of his life! So that over rules it. He will come back for his children. First of all are you 100% sure that it is Jermaine DM believers? Can it be someone who hacked into his account and wrote all of this to cause havoc? It seems no one reads and tries to understand my posts. It is very frustrating. I said try to analyse what Jermaine wrote or whom ever it was. There are two sides of a coin, check both sides before everyone loses hope, and faith. I had twitter, I deactivated my account long time ago, for me it was a waste of time and engergy. I find it is just a waste of time to write posts and no one ( with some exceptions) tries to understand what I wrote and put it into practice.
When you analyse a situation, you will have more of a clear answer.
wish you all the best.. blessings.
I've thought about it many times. Why should we believe that twitter is real? There is some evidence 100% sure?
So we still have that possibility. But if it's real, I still think that Jermaine wrote all this, mainly because of Pearl. I've posted about it.
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(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/PGJermaine.jpg)
2+2=5
are you such a dreamer?
to put the world to rights?
i'll stay home forever
where two & two always makes up five
i'll lay down some tracks
sandbag & hide
january has april's showers
and two and two always makes up five
it's the devil's way out
there's no way out
you can scream you can shout
it is too late now
because
you have not been payin' attention
payin' attention payin' attention
you have not been
payin' attention
I try to sing along
I get it all wrong
NOT
I swat em like flies
but like flies the buggers keep coming back
NOT
maybe not
"All hail to the thief" "All hail to the thief"
"But I'm not!"
"Don't question my authority or put me in the dock"
"Coz I'm not!"
Go and tell the king that the sky is falling in
When it's not Maybe it's not Maybe not.
It is impossible to think of this song without recalling the
episode of the book by George Orwell's "1984", in which one
the allies of the "big brother" (only political party)
(dictatorial) tells the protagonist that "If the Government"
"it says that two and two are five, five", something inconceivable
for the main character not to say "no, no, not".
Also said that it might be, about 2 + 2 = 5, a criticism to the
access to the power of George w. Bush in the US, with rumors
that there was corruption when it comes to counting the votes to their
Please. In fact, when Bush arrived at the White House many
of the banners of the people expressed against
they put "hail to the thief" ("greetings to the thief").
And already not only by the counting of votes, the entire song can
be taken as a clear critique Bush ("time is of the")
Devil, no output, you can shout and you can scream, is
"too late now", good definition of the social landscape
(current that largely has led Bush and his allies).
The letter can be considered then "political" are ("you?")
("do so dreamy that you think you're going to fix the world?"), with
references to the book of Orwell and/or anti-Bush, or any
interpretation may be worth, always with the point in common
a criticism of cutting (in line with the rocker outbreak of)
(the song) into an "oppressive force" that you want to do
believe (or manipulate) something that is not true (2 + 2 = 5)
In the words of the band
Thom: "remember that we played the first day of"
the study of Nigel Godrich Ocean Way recording. Go there
It was his idea. I went to see him while he was there working with
Beck, and I really liked how it sounded the study because it was very
warm.
We plugged the team and played for testing. We all think
that we had recorded was worth nothing, but in the end it was
well because turned out to be a very good recording, as a
"aaah" that makes you get much frustration. "2 + 2 = 5" also
It is a kind of Declaration of intent, but at the same
time, and in the line of the authentic style Radiohead, is one
"Declaration of intent totally misleading".
Phil: "what defines the disk is the energy"
landslide with that we play, and this song has. The
first of each disk always seems to be absolutely the
contrary to the general atmosphere of the previous album, and we
"it seemed that"2 + 2 = 5"fulfilled that role very well."
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First of all are you 100% sure that it is Jermaine DM believers?
I am sure. Since long time ago.
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If Michael is dead, then I have will lose every bit of respect I have for the Jackson family, because they have been carefree and happily tweeting since day one; on the roof, on the road, writing books, starting and networking new business ventures, vacations, tele promos, etc. If that's how they mourn the loss of Michael, then Geez, how do they celebrate? The humanity in me will not allow me to believe that they are that cold confused/ I just cannot. I tragically lost a son nearly 15 years ago, and I am still not completely back to me. I never will be.
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If Michael is dead, then I have will lose every bit of respect I have for the Jackson family, because they have been carefree and happily tweeting since day one; on the roof, on the road, writing books, starting and networking new business ventures, vacations, tele promos, etc. If that's how they mourn the loss of Michael, then Geez, how do they celebrate? The humanity in me will not allow me to believe that they are that cold confused/ I just cannot. I tragically lost a son nearly 15 years ago, and I am still not completely back to me. I never will be.
I agree 100%. thank you :)
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I'm not saying Michael is dead. But our religious belief has a strong word when we confront the loss of a dear one. In some cultures death is not even a tragedy, it's just a spiritual step forward. Each individual has a different way to receive the death of a dear one and mourning is not the only way people respond do shock or deep pain. Some stop existing, some go crazy. Some go in depression, some act like it didn't even happen. I'm not saying Michael is dead.
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Ok Jermaine,
Michael is dead, but I will be here in hoaxland. I'll stay here until you show a complete something. Words are only words. I will not be raving for such messages in twitter. I want the truth, more than anything, but things have to be well made officialy and not behind the PC.
All that the family has done since the beginning is just to confuse us. If they have to protect Michael, ok ... they are not asking for believers to read what they write and not hear what they say. Each one takes his conclusion.
I do not will hurt myself, no more. I hope time will tell.
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Something has been worrying me nothing to do with hoax I don't think but happened to jermains twins that they were expecting did they sadly lose them or was it a tabloid lie but jermaine did an interview about the pregnancy
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He doesn't want us to find him, so STOP! Some are missing the point completely and I find it a little annoying, I can only imagine how it makes Michael feel :roll: [/i][/b]
I agree with everything in your post, Moon, except these last two sentences. Personally, I do not know what MJ wants from us, and I'm really not sure of 'the point'! Until or unless he comes and tells me, then whatever I think is purely speculation. Good post nonetheless!
I completely agree with you guys! And there definitely are people from this forum tweeting Jermaine and sending him DMs because they are talking about it on this forum. I don't understand why people can't just leave the Jacksons alone! IF Michael ever decides to come back, it will be his and his family's decision (particularly he and his kids). Believers constantly hounding the family will have nothing to do with it!
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I'm not worried by what Jermaine has been tweeting or DMing (whatever that is - I don't twitter). He's doing what he's supposed to and bringing attention to the hoax. If Michael were really dead, the believers would've had our hands slapped a long time ago, like 2009 or something. And Jermaine saying Michael is not alive isn't any different from the official story anyways. And I highly doubt Michael's BAM will be via a tweet from Jermaine.
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why is everyone forgetting that the reason Jermaine tweeted about the hoax in the first place is because SOMEONE FROM THIS FORUM GOADED HIM INTO IT.
They tweeted him over and over again about this forum... and Jermaine finally responded.
Be careful what you ask for.....
Yes, unfortunately some believers push it so hard. But I don't think that the believer who pushed Jermaine to talk about the hoax is on this forum. She's someone who wants this forum to be closed if you ask me. Because she gave the link of this hoax forum only and asked him to close this one because we're disrespectful to the family and Michael. :roll:
If Michael is dead, then I have will lose every bit of respect I have for the Jackson family, because they have been carefree and happily tweeting since day one; on the roof, on the road, writing books, starting and networking new business ventures, vacations, tele promos, etc. If that's how they mourn the loss of Michael, then Geez, how do they celebrate? The humanity in me will not allow me to believe that they are that cold confused/ I just cannot. I tragically lost a son nearly 15 years ago, and I am still not completely back to me. I never will be.
I agree with you 100%. And I'm sorry to hear about your son. Big hugs for you.
I'm not worried by what Jermaine has been tweeting or DMing (whatever that is - I don't twitter). He's doing what he's supposed to and bringing attention to the hoax. If Michael were really dead, the believers would've had our hands slapped a long time ago, like 2009 or something. And Jermaine saying Michael is not alive isn't any different from the official story anyways. And I highly doubt Michael's BAM will be via a tweet from Jermaine.
I thought the possibility of bringing the attention on the hoax at first when he tweeted on his page but he stopped writing about the hoax on his page but started to send DMs to believers only. So he's bringing the attention to the hoax by sending DMs to believers which could only be seen by the believers? I don't think so. If he wanted to keep the attention on the hoax, he would have kept on making tweets on his own page where everyone could read his tweets. What interests me the most is, WHY NOW Jermaine is sending DMs to us? Why not before? Is it related with the delay of the trial? These are the questions in my mind. I do not care about what he writes since I'm sure that Michael is alive but why now.
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She's someone who wants this forum to be closed if you ask me. Because she gave the link of this hoax forum only and asked him to close this one because we're disrespectful to the family and Michael.
No. Here's the tweet after:
You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all. You ignored us for 22 months.
It took THIS to make u address us?Well,I'm highly glad that from all the beLIEvers I am the one who succeeded.
if you'd said this 2 years ago or at least at the beginning of it all, we probably would've believe u.
you always ignored our twitts,always.This was my way of making you address us.I managed to do it.
2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful.
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She's someone who wants this forum to be closed if you ask me. Because she gave the link of this hoax forum only and asked him to close this one because we're disrespectful to the family and Michael.
No. Here's the tweet after:
You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all. You ignored us for 22 months.
It took THIS to make u address us?Well,I'm highly glad that from all the beLIEvers I am the one who succeeded.
if you'd said this 2 years ago or at least at the beginning of it all, we probably would've believe u.
you always ignored our twitts,always.This was my way of making you address us.I managed to do it.
2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful.
Wow! This is definitely not something that I would be proud of. Maybe it's time for Jermaine to block this person (if you can even do that on Twitter; I'm not on there so I don't know).
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Yeah..you actually start to understand Jermaine. And this was just a part of twitter..
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I'm not saying Michael is dead. But our religious belief has a strong word when we confront the loss of a dear one. In some cultures death is not even a tragedy, it's just a spiritual step forward. Each individual has a different way to receive the death of a dear one and mourning is not the only way people respond do shock or deep pain. Some stop existing, some go crazy. Some go in depression, some act like it didn't even happen. I'm not saying Michael is dead.
can any onagree totally, since he is backing Michael. Can anyone reply back to Jermaine stating that he is the one who made us believe Michael is alive when he was way gone to the AIRPORT? This is it but not it not the final curtain? Can anyone of you who has twitter can DM HIM WITH THESE CLUES HE SEND US? Yes he cannot help us with this.I agree he is protecting his brother.
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What the heckk ! :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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No. Here's the tweet after:
You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all. You ignored us for 22 months.
It took THIS to make u address us?Well,I'm highly glad that from all the beLIEvers I am the one who succeeded.
if you'd said this 2 years ago or at least at the beginning of it all, we probably would've believe u.
you always ignored our twitts,always.This was my way of making you address us.I managed to do it.
2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful.
Thanks for posting this, because it certainly helps to make his tweet make sense. If I was Jermaine I probably would have said the same type thing in response to her trying to force him to respond. The guy is covering for Michael in a major complex hoax and is just doing his job as Michael directs. If she is truly a believer, she has caused a lot of stress unneccesarily to all groups. I hope she is satisfied now and leaves him alone.
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Can anyone reply back to Jermaine stating that he is the one who made us believe Michael is alive when he was way gone to the AIRPORT? This is it but not it not the final curtain? Can anyone of you who has twitter can DM HIM WITH THESE CLUES HE SEND US?
He already answered: there were no slip-ups, no clues, no hope.
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Yeah right.. Of course he will say that, he will deny it, obviously. Anyways I don't believe him, I am strong headed, I know what I feel, and he is helping Michael hoaxing his death. Just to let you know that today, I was at my office, and I had my door opened waiting for one of my patient to come in, and I heard a woman talking with another woman saying that she does not believe Michael is dead, and for the trial to be postponed over and over means they have nothing to back his death (no evidence). When I went out to call my patient, I spoke to that lady, ( she was not my patient) I asked her the question, what makes her think that they do not have any evidence? She told me she is a criminal lawyer, and they are making a mockery of the justice system. she told me if they had all concrete evidence the court would have been over and done with. They have nothing. I couldn't talk to her anymore I had my patient waiting for me. She gave me her phone number so we can discuss it further. She made lots of sense. Once I get to talk to her I will post all her information. I think what ever happens to you or you meet, it is meant to be. Blessings.
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She's someone who wants this forum to be closed if you ask me. Because she gave the link of this hoax forum only and asked him to close this one because we're disrespectful to the family and Michael.
No. Here's the tweet after:
You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all. You ignored us for 22 months.
It took THIS to make u address us?Well,I'm highly glad that from all the beLIEvers I am the one who succeeded.
if you'd said this 2 years ago or at least at the beginning of it all, we probably would've believe u.
you always ignored our twitts,always.This was my way of making you address us.I managed to do it.
2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful.
This is not the tweet Jermaine answered. It is on the previous pages. The person who wrote to Jermaine wrote like a non-believer and asked for this forum to be closed.
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I said that was after.
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Wrote like a non-believer and then became a darn proud believer as you saw
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can any onagree totally, since he is backing Michael. Can anyone reply back to Jermaine stating that he is the one who made us believe Michael is alive when he was way gone to the AIRPORT? This is it but not it not the final curtain? Can anyone of you who has twitter can DM HIM WITH THESE CLUES HE SEND US? Yes he cannot help us with this.I agree he is protecting his brother.
We can not DM Jermaine since he doesn't follow us. And in my opinion we shouldn't push him or any other family members or friends to talk about the hoax. We get negative answers as it happened with Jermaine.
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Wrote like a non-believer and then became a darn proud believer as you saw
Yeah unfortunately. Some people push it so hard. What happened to the forum? Am I the only one who can not see the quote button?
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no quote, no edit...nothing
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Yeah right.. Of course he will say that, he will deny it, obviously. Anyways I don't believe him, I am strong headed, I know what I feel, and he is helping Michael hoaxing his death. Just to let you know that today, I was at my office, and I had my door opened waiting for one of my patient to come in, and I heard a woman talking with another woman saying that she does not believe Michael is dead, and for the trial to be postponed over and over means they have nothing to back his death (no evidence). When I went out to call my patient, I spoke to that lady, ( she was not my patient) I asked her the question, what makes her think that they do not have any evidence? She told me she is a criminal lawyer, and they are making a mockery of the justice system. she told me if they had all concrete evidence the court would have been over and done with. They have nothing. I couldn't talk to her anymore I had my patient waiting for me. She gave me her phone number so we can discuss it further. She made lots of sense. Once I get to talk to her I will post all her information. I think what ever happens to you or you meet, it is meant to be. Blessings.
That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing it with us all4love. Pls informs us if you talk to her again. We need professional viewpoint as well. michael-jackson/
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I am nearly speechless at all of the controversy and whining over something we've been told from the beginning. "Michael Jackson is dead."
We have known for two years that,
"IT'S NEVER AS IT SEEMS"
WHAT has changed???
Nothing ---including that some people STILL stubbornly refuse to think for themselves, and continually call for or seek, someone to guide and "lead us".
FORGET Jermaine. God Bless him---he is being very very strong, for MJ, in the face of great pressure and complete evil!
Breathe.
Think.
What ELSE is he going to SAY when bullied by a rabid person trying to COMANDEER and manipulate MJ's blood, sweat and tears, bazillion dollar, decades in the planning, multifaceted, World-Changing, All For LOVE, GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, Hoaxed Death???
Are you kidding?
If some of y'all weren't so emotional, you would have realized that---if it was even HIM on Twitter---that he had quoted from the book and movie, 1984, wherein, the NWO has seen to it that Truth cannot be spoken OPENLY anymore; ONLY DOUBLESPEAK. :shock: He's trying to tell us, he can ONLY give us 2+2=5, within earshot of TPTB :!: :!: 8-) Sheeeesh. Get hold of yourselves. mj_dance/
If someone already mentioned this, let this be just reinforcement, then. :) So sorry, I could not read pages of angst, right now. I read two. :?
You know, this ride is going to probably get a lot rougher than this, before it is over. If it gets too rough for you, take a little break. Maybe you should rent The Silver Chair, if you want to learn something about deception. It can get scary-ugly.
Vicious lies will get worse, outside of our little group. But, our part is to filter that out. This is MJ's show. A scary movie that MJ wrote, one day while feeling fiendish. ;) I feel like he means to scare the crap out of us, but not in a mean way---ALL for fun. Even the serious parts are ALL under control, REALLY! so relax. MJ is waaay too clever to get into something he doesn't totally control!!! mj_bad/ 8-)
For those of you who get upset when people "tell you what to do", YOU relax, too. I'm not TELLING you to do anything, just offering suggestions in good will, so we all can wind back down to PEACE and Happiness, here...
bearhug beerchug respect/ :D
A new person here, JUST got done suggesting we sit back and make LOTS of popcorn, and enjoy the "show". :o :lol:
That sounds GRRRRRREAT to me. bounce/ Let's do THAT!
Can we just have fun, while we learn how to Love one another, and KILL hate??? :mrgreen: mj_dance/
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she does not believe Michael is dead, and for the trial to be postponed over and over means they have nothing to back his death (no evidence)
Then why did they start it?
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i was just thinking, and could jermaine have been so blunt with beLIEvers because we or some are getting too big for their britches? a lot of beLIEvers think they know it all argue/ , when really no one knows why michael hoaxed his death except for the ones he has told. some beLIEvers are no longer humble since they know it all so jerm had to put their asses in they place respect/
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Yeah, some believers think they have the right to know like this family has anything to do with them
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Eh, I'm so over these Tweets! Its really weird and strange and disturbing that there are pathetic people who lurk over their computers, probably in a dark cold corner and have the audacity to believe that THEY are entitled to know. Jermaine is a patient man, thank God for the Spam button.
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First I want to say that sometimes I think each one of you is right in his own way.
Secondly - I would like to see Jermaine's face when he will realise there's nothing he can do to break our faith in Michael penguin/
We love him too much
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Its her
What ELSE is he going to SAY when bullied by a rabid person trying to COMANDEER and manipulate MJ's blood, sweat and tears, bazillion dollar, decades in the planning, multifaceted, World-Changing, All For LOVE, GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, Hoaxed Death???
Are you kidding?
If some of y'all weren't so emotional, you would have realized that---if it was even HIM on Twitter---that he had quoted from the book and movie, 1984, wherein, the NWO has seen to it that Truth cannot be spoken OPENLY anymore; ONLY DOUBLESPEAK. He's trying to tell us, he can ONLY give us 2+2=5, within earshot of TPTB Sheeeesh. Get hold of yourselves.
:lol: You always have a way with words! And I agree about the doublespeak, like "he's dead" is the code word for "he's alive".
all4loveandbelieve, I'm looking forward to what that lawyer you talked to has to say. Sounds like MJ's strange trial is a hot topic for those in the legal profession.
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I am nearly speechless at all of the controversy and whining over something we've been told from the beginning. "Michael Jackson is dead."
We have known for two years that,
"IT'S NEVER AS IT SEEMS"
WHAT has changed???
Nothing ---including that some people STILL stubbornly refuse to think for themselves, and continually call for or seek, someone to guide and "lead us".
FORGET Jermaine. God Bless him---he is being very very strong, for MJ, in the face of great pressure and complete evil!
Breathe.
Think.
What ELSE is he going to SAY when bullied by a rabid person trying to COMANDEER and manipulate MJ's blood, sweat and tears, bazillion dollar, decades in the planning, multifaceted, World-Changing, All For LOVE, GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, Hoaxed Death???
Are you kidding?
If some of y'all weren't so emotional, you would have realized that---if it was even HIM on Twitter---that he had quoted from the book and movie, 1984, wherein, the NWO has seen to it that Truth cannot be spoken OPENLY anymore; ONLY DOUBLESPEAK. :shock: He's trying to tell us, he can ONLY give us 2+2=5, within earshot of TPTB :!: :!: 8-) Sheeeesh. Get hold of yourselves. mj_dance/
If someone already mentioned this, let this be just reinforcement, then. :) So sorry, I could not read pages of angst, right now. I read two. :?
You know, this ride is going to probably get a lot rougher than this, before it is over. If it gets too rough for you, take a little break. Maybe you should rent The Silver Chair, if you want to learn something about deception. It can get scary-ugly.
Vicious lies will get worse, outside of our little group. But, our part is to filter that out. This is MJ's show. A scary movie that MJ wrote, one day while feeling fiendish. ;) I feel like he means to scare the crap out of us, but not in a mean way---ALL for fun. Even the serious parts are ALL under control, REALLY! so relax. MJ is waaay too clever to get into something he doesn't totally control!!! mj_bad/ 8-)
For those of you who get upset when people "tell you what to do", YOU relax, too. I'm not TELLING you to do anything, just offering suggestions in good will, so we all can wind back down to PEACE and Happiness, here...
bearhug beerchug respect/ :D
A new person here, JUST got done suggesting we sit back and make LOTS of popcorn, and enjoy the "show". :o :lol:
That sounds GRRRRRREAT to me. bounce/ Let's do THAT!
Can we just have fun, while we learn how to Love one another, and KILL hate??? :mrgreen: mj_dance/
Very well said. i said the same thing in different words. blessings.
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Its her
What ELSE is he going to SAY when bullied by a rabid person trying to COMANDEER and manipulate MJ's blood, sweat and tears, bazillion dollar, decades in the planning, multifaceted, World-Changing, All For LOVE, GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, Hoaxed Death???
Are you kidding?
If some of y'all weren't so emotional, you would have realized that---if it was even HIM on Twitter---that he had quoted from the book and movie, 1984, wherein, the NWO has seen to it that Truth cannot be spoken OPENLY anymore; ONLY DOUBLESPEAK. He's trying to tell us, he can ONLY give us 2+2=5, within earshot of TPTB Sheeeesh. Get hold of yourselves.
:lol: You always have a way with words! And I agree about the doublespeak, like "he's dead" is the code word for "he's alive".
all4loveandbelieve, I'm looking forward to what that lawyer you talked to has to say. Sounds like MJ's strange trial is a hot topic for those in the legal profession.
Well she is a huge fan of Michael, that's why she was speaking about it. I will contact her later this evening.
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i was just thinking, and could jermaine have been so blunt with beLIEvers because we or some are getting too big for their britches? a lot of beLIEvers think they know it all argue/ , when really no one knows why michael hoaxed his death except for the ones he has told. some beLIEvers are no longer humble since they know it all so jerm had to put their asses in they place respect/
Yes, maybe Michael himself is full of the behavior of some fans. I think he would want to see his family in peace, some fans are actually very racy and eavesdroppers. respect/
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She's someone who wants this forum to be closed if you ask me. Because she gave the link of this hoax forum only and asked him to close this one because we're disrespectful to the family and Michael.
No. Here's the tweet after:
You fell in my tramp Jermaine. I wanted to make you ADDRESS us once and for all. You ignored us for 22 months.
It took THIS to make u address us?Well,I'm highly glad that from all the beLIEvers I am the one who succeeded.
if you'd said this 2 years ago or at least at the beginning of it all, we probably would've believe u.
you always ignored our twitts,always.This was my way of making you address us.I managed to do it.
2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful.
Wow! This is definitely not something that I would be proud of. Maybe it's time for Jermaine to block this person (if you can even do that on Twitter; I'm not on there so I don't know).
My only thought about this is why did this person even address Jermaine if she wasn't going to accept his answer? She pushed him to say something and then in essence said that she's not going to believe him now because too much time has lapsed. It was a rude and inconsiderate thing for her to do. I don't think anyone should be pushed for answers. It's like when TMZ didn't have MJ's name in the RIP section and people hounded them relentlessly until they added it. What did that solve or prove?
We can get much further by standing back and giving people enough freedom to trip themselves up. Truth will always prevail in the end. You just need to be patient enough to wait and watch.
This will be in the wrong place but I looked at pictures I've saved and was quickly settled about this whole Jermaine thing. Blessings.
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another comment to help settle the storm.
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voice, my apologies, I don't have a Twitter account so I get confused easily reading the tweets... what is being said here in these screenshots?
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all4loveandbelieve wrote:
Yeah right.. Of course he will say that, he will deny it, obviously. Anyways I don't believe him, I am strong headed, I know what I feel, and he is helping Michael hoaxing his death. Just to let you know that today, I was at my office, and I had my door opened waiting for one of my patient to come in, and I heard a woman talking with another woman saying that she does not believe Michael is dead, and for the trial to be postponed over and over means they have nothing to back his death (no evidence). When I went out to call my patient, I spoke to that lady, ( she was not my patient) I asked her the question, what makes her think that they do not have any evidence? She told me she is a criminal lawyer, and they are making a mockery of the justice system. she told me if they had all concrete evidence the court would have been over and done with. They have nothing. I couldn't talk to her anymore I had my patient waiting for me. She gave me her phone number so we can discuss it further. She made lots of sense. Once I get to talk to her I will post all her information. I think what ever happens to you or you meet, it is meant to be. Blessings.
This is very interesting, it would be very good that you can talk to this person.
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There is a photo on jermaines photo page posted by Hailma and the medical glove box at the back show a white glove which looks like it's in the peace sign position.
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Well, we should not forget that intelligence is watching over Twitter (the more after Assange) and that every public tweet's destiny is to be stored at U.S. Congress Library.
We expect the family to do something (or not do it) according to our expectations.
But how important are we really in this? Aren't there more important aspects to consider than us?
How selfish are we in our expectations? Who's turn is it?
Wouldn't it be more logical the family would do what is required according to the scriptmaster's expectations?
Twitter is a pure marketing instrument to keep contact with the fanbase.
It is not created as a chat one-on-one and it is certainly not a pleasure only but a time-demanding tool that is being watched and documented.
What do we and what can we expect from any tweet under these circumstances?
the U.S. Intelligence community has labeled Twitter, amongst other Web 2.0-like tools, as potential tools for terrorists to coordinate attacks.
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http://www.tgdaily.com/business-and-law-features/39918-us-intelligence-labels-twitter-as-a-tool-for-terrorists
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/mobile.pdf
Have you ever sent out a “tweet” on the popular Twitter social media service? Congratulations: Your 140 characters or less will now be housed in the Library of Congress.
That’s right. Every public tweet, ever, since Twitter’s inception in March 2006, will be archived digitally at the Library of Congress. That’s a LOT of tweets, by the way: Twitter processes more than 50 million tweets every day, with the total numbering in the billions.
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http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2010/04/how-tweet-it-is-library-acquires-entire-twitter-archive/
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There is a photo on jermaines photo page posted by Hailma and the medical glove box at the back show a white glove which looks like it's in the peace sign position.
Would you be able to post it here, my love? xxx typing/
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Also Jermaine has never said anything about why he allowed his wife Halima to wear this T-shirt--a little disrespectful I would say. michael-jackson/
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vVfW3pOxHRY/S8PY294GVnI/AAAAAAAAAY8/KZW3lOKXVpg/s200/10+-+T-Shirt+d%27Halima+-++Michael+Lives.jpg)
I suppose he would just say that it's a phrase meaning he lives in our hearts. Hmm...
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There is a photo on jermaines photo page posted by Hailma and the medical glove box at the back show a white glove which looks like it's in the peace sign position.
Would you be able to post it here, my love? xxx typing/
I'm afraid I'd computer illiterate!! :(
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Also Jermaine has never said anything about why he allowed his wife Halima to wear this T-shirt--a little disrespectful I would say.
Errr,.... Im not sure what dark ages you have come from... but my husband doesnt "allow me" to wear anything. I wear what i like and he doesnt get a say!
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Also Jermaine has never said anything about why he allowed his wife Halima to wear this T-shirt--a little disrespectful I would say.
Errr,.... Im not sure what dark ages you have come from... but my husband doesnt "allow me" to wear anything. I wear what i like and he doesnt get a say!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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There is a photo on jermaines photo page posted by Hailma and the medical glove box at the back show a white glove which looks like it's in the peace sign position.
Would you be able to post it here, my love? xxx typing/
I'm afraid I'd computer illiterate!! :(
No worries. I am sure someone will be kind enough to post it. I cant find it on her twitter.... but twitter runs slow on my computer for some reason.
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Also Jermaine has never said anything about why he allowed his wife Halima to wear this T-shirt--a little disrespectful I would say.
Errr,.... Im not sure what dark ages you have come from... but my husband doesnt "allow me" to wear anything. I wear what i like and he doesnt get a say!
:lol: I'm sure a shirt about his 'dead' brother would be an exception, wouldn't you agree?
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voice, my apologies, I don't have a Twitter account so I get confused easily reading the tweets... what is being said here in these screenshots?
Voice thank you for the screenshots. I hope people do not start to push Brando to talk about the hoax. Once a believer friend of mine even called the flower shop of the Brandos and talked with his wife. She didn't directly said that Michael is alive but she didn't deny it either.
Bec, I have Twitter and I'm sure that Voice will explain it too but until she comes to the thread again, let me try to explain you what it is. On the left top, someone called Rossmile sent Miko a tweet which is "True Love never ends". And Miko retweeted it which is like we make a quotation on this forum. People RT(ReTweet) things they like on Twitter. And then someone called Mademoiselle asked Miko if MJ is alive and she wrote that we would know it soon. And Miko answered her and wrote "Not soon" and also he wrote that he knows things. And then Miko asked her if they could talk via DMs where noone else can see what they talk about. DM is like a PM in this forum.
Hope this answered your question. mj_dance/
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I am nearly speechless at all of the controversy and whining over something we've been told from the beginning. "Michael Jackson is dead."
We have known for two years that,
"IT'S NEVER AS IT SEEMS"
WHAT has changed???
Saying 'he is dead' and 'this is not a hoax' is two different things. This is the first time the family is adressing the hoax. That's changed. I see no whining in this thread. If to write what you think about it negative or positive makes you whine about the issue then we are all whining here. I see noone lost their hope about Michael's being alive after Jermaine's tweets. Everyone is stating their opinion and not everyone needs to see the issue from the same perspective. So it's wrong to call it whining. And I do believe that the return was postponed or cancelled. And I do believe that Jermaine's DMs and tweets are related with the delayed trial. I still believe that we will have a trial. But if the return was postponed to 2012 or other years, probably they don't want us to wait that long. And that could be reason why Jermaine made those tweets. Just a possibility.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
It astonishes me how people are side-tracked by fantasy fiction when the goal should be seeking justice for the death of Michael
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Jermaine's latest tweets - Chronolically read from the bottom to the top.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
It astonishes me how people are side-tracked by fantasy fiction when the goal should be seeking justice for the death of Michael
8 minutes ago
@misscoppelia nor do I recall "attacking" anyone. I do recall pointing out that 2+2=5 is caused by wild imaginations
11 minutes ago
@misscoppelia how can a hoax video be "beautiful" when its inventions mislead so many and cause so much pain??
14 minutes ago
@frqtrdar55 one benefit of Twitter is the outlet to knock down lies at source, and especially lies that concern my wife
25 minutes ago
Let's nail this nonsense once and for all: my wife @halimarashid is not related to Tohme Tohme #madness
29 minutes ago
@KarlaJorge I'm not refusing to answer Qs about Tohme Tohme. I'm just not doing it via a 140-character medium
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voice, my apologies, I don't have a Twitter account so I get confused easily reading the tweets... what is being said here in these screenshots?
Voice thank you for the screenshots. I hope people do not start to push Brando to talk about the hoax. Once a believer friend of mine even called the flower shop of the Brandos and talked with his wife. She didn't directly said that Michael is alive but she didn't deny it either.
Bec, I have Twitter and I'm sure that Voice will explain it too but until she comes to the thread again, let me try to explain you what it is. On the left top, someone called Rossmile sent Miko a tweet which is "True Love never ends". And Miko retweeted it which is like we make a quotation on this forum. People RT(ReTweet) things they like on Twitter. And then someone called Mademoiselle asked Miko if MJ is alive and she wrote that we would know it soon. And Miko answered her and wrote "Not soon" and also he wrote that he knows things. And then Miko asked her if they could talk via DMs where noone else can see what they talk about. DM is like a PM in this forum.
Hope this answered your question. mj_dance/
Thank you - I agree. I was hesitant to put those screen shots up because the last thing I want is for people to start interrogating Miko. It was really just to bring some more hope from someone other than Teddy Riley. The absolute best thing to do is to let them talk in their own time. We need to keep in mind that there could be some danger involved in this which would explain why Teddy is no longer able to talk. As far as Miko, I think he's said other cryptic things too but I didn't save those screen shots.
That was also a great explanation of the tweets. I could not have done better. Thank you.
Blessings :)
EDIT: I also want to say about those tweets from Miko - that if MJ is dead, he would have no reason to say "I know things" and "not soon". He would come out and say it like it is. He also wouldn't need to DM the person. I also checked recently and that person he DM'd no longer has their account so either they were hounded for answers by people and they closed their account or they did so because of what they were told. Not sure..just speculation.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I'll defend Michael -- and the truth about everything -- in a considered context in the book, not via piecemeal tweets
50 seconds ago
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Talking about Tom (PianoGames)
misscoppelia coppelia
@jermjackson5 Just a few words to tell you that the young man you attacked the other day is extremely respected here.
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@misscoppelia how can a hoax video be "beautiful" when its inventions mislead so many and cause so much pain??
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@misscoppelia nor do I recall "attacking" anyone. I do recall pointing out that 2+2=5 is caused by wild imaginations
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I'll defend Michael -- and the truth about everything -- in a considered context in the book, not via piecemeal tweets
50 seconds ago
It looks like he's promoting his book. Buy my book and read more.
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I think his book comes out this fall. Can't wait.
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I must say that Jermaine is rather eloquent.
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1. Question
HendaBeLIEver jamie henderson
@jermjackson5 , how do you explain @Akon & @TeddyRiley1 both being open believers?. please explain that one.
Jermaine's Answer
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@HendaBeLIEver one is an unverified account that you rely on, and I don't believe for a second that @Akon believes this to be the case
2. Question or whatever
HendaBeLIEver jamie henderson
@jermjackson5 You need to understand that what the hoaxers believe are clear facts/clues, too many to be just coincidences
Jermaine's answer
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@HendaBeLIEver i think your definition of a 'fact/clue' is very different to mine
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TouchedByAngelM Carol
@jermjackson5 Was wondering when you took these pics with Pearl? http://www.michaeljacksoninsider.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksoninsider.com/) Didn't you know what she was up to?
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@TouchedByAngelM countless people ask for photos daily. unfortunately, they don't wear name badges
whosbackmjsback Conrad Murray
@jermjackson5 why? so u can keep making money off michael's death?! i want the truth straight...i dont wanna go buy some book.!
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@whosbackmjsback I'm sure they have libraries where you live
HendaBeLIEver jamie henderson
@jermjackson5 You need to understand that what the hoaxers believe are clear facts/clues, too many to be just coincidences. #HAIRGEL
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@HendaBeLIEver i think your definition of a 'fact/clue' is very different to mine
Mememeow1 Marie
@jermjackson5 Word to the Badd ..will you cover that song? The reason behind it? And how hurtful he must have felt
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@Mememeow1 like I say, i will be addressing everything
Yambo3003 Yambo©
@jermjackson5 @touchedbyangelm I'm sure Pearl Jr. Identified herself. She's a journalist who followed & covered the 2005 Trial.
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@Yambo3003 I'm sure she did. But I don't know the name & wouldn't have known what she was upto
HendaBeLIEver jamie henderson
@jermjackson5 , how do you explain @Akon & @TeddyRiley1 both being open believers?. please explain that one.
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@HendaBeLIEver one is an unverified account that you rely on, and I don't believe for a second that @Akon believes this to be the case
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HendaBeLIEver jamie henderson
@jermjackson5 You need to understand that what the hoaxers believe are clear facts/clues, too many to be just coincidences. #HAIRGEL
:lol:
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@HendaBeLIEver one is an unverified account that you rely on, and I don't believe for a second that @Akon believes this to be the case
It seems like Jermaine hasn't watched Teddy's interview where he says he is a knower and hasn't read Akon's interview at the magazine where he says that he believes MJ is alive.
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
But.
But really, I guess Michael needs to understand... we KNOW now. Asking people to wait and wait and wait with no reveal and no explanation and no answers.... yet the clues keep on coming... well... every man has his breaking point. Women take longer but we have ours too.
Michael, darling, you had it coming. Human nature and all, you know its a beast. They really should lay off Jermaine though.
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Are some of these our guys? I think they might be. I feel for Jermaine
want to add they need to back off. hounding like this is not on.
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Ps, guys, thanks for the Twitter tutorial from earlier. Seems like every time I figure out how to decipher it they change something.
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I feel for Jermaine. I hate it that people bother him so much. People just don't seem to let it go. What do people expect of him? He can't just go around telling that Mike is alive. What is wrong with those people? I can understand the impatience. I don't like to wait either. But people will just have to deal with this. It's gonna take as long as it's gonna take. Nobody of us will change that. Someone needs to tell those people to shut up and leave Jermaine and also Nelson de la Nuez alone. It can't be good. For all we know it'll make things more difficult. I'm really angry. Come on people, show some respect. respect/
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Well. In the hoaxers slight defense, trial delay was a huge blow... not to our confidence, but to our moral. Huge. People are pissed and frustrated. They want validity... I do too. I'm sincerely tired of being the crazy person who thinks MJ is not dead. Now Mr. Airport is saying we hoaxers just can't let go and can't come to terms with death and well, we aren't kids Jermaine! Most of the die-hards are professional adults. We aren't stupid or naive. This is a hoax and his brother is not dead and I am not crazy damnit!
So yeah, I get the frustration. Perhaps it's good that Michael sees some of it?
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
I'm with you. Henda must think that if she keeps asking Jermaine all these questions, he's just going to tweet something like, "Yeah. It's true. Mike's alive." :roll: IMO, if someone believes, beLIEves, or KNOWs, just wait because time will tell. Don't waste time trying to get an answer when you're not going to get it in the first place.
Actully, most of the tweets that are sent to him about this hoax need to calm down, IMO. All they are going to do is make someone lose faith, that is if that person has faith. I wish some people would understand that anyone would lie to defend someone; not everything is true. For some people, they've been here from day one (June 25, 2009). Going on two, long, dreadful, yet surprising years. Come on now.
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Henda is a he fyi. He is one of the original MJHD crew.
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Are some of these our guys? I think they might be. I feel for Jermaine
want to add they need to back off. hounding like this is not on.
Yes, also I was think remember TR said way back he will get his twitter verified, well he never did, coincidence?
I don't think anyone can say to believers to stop because of course people wanna know the truth, but I'm sure JJ likes the attention.
I know, it is probably hard for him with getting all these question along with some hater tweets but as soon as he answered questions about the hoax, a landslide came down and it's not going to stop, so MJ being the smart man he is would of known this, I also think he is answering these hoax questions because it's getting to the end, but in the meantime are people just supposed to keep asking until we check mate him or do they leave him alone?
But I am sure if he wanted the questions to stop he would say so.
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Jermaine shouldn't even entertain these people tweeting him.
He keeps tweeting back like he has a guilty concience or something. Block these people, ignore them. why keep stirring the flames?
If hoaxers are so deluded in our "2+2+5" mentality then why is he even waste his time answering our "illusionary" questions and inquiries?
I do agree that some of the people tweeting Jermaine are too nasty and bold, but he should have never said anything about the hoax in the first place he's just inviting trouble.
This is all a set up...i have conflicting emotions about Jermaine and time will tell...are you really "Michaels backbone?" Jermaine.
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Jermaine, Jermaine, Jermaine....
you know with all the lies that have been told in the past two years there is no wonder we are having a hard time sorting out fact from fiction. And it seems Jermaine is too, even when he's told some of them.
*Let's imagine for one horrible second that he's telling the truth this time and MJ, is indeed, dead. He still should not excuse the coincidences and the numbers. Someone has put in a LOT of work trying to make us believe MJ is alive. If not MJ, then who? Seems to me you figure that out, you find your killer. I have no doubt that if MJ is dead he was murdered and all they have to do is follow the money, and the numbers, to find out who did it. But of course, they already know who did it or so they all say...but conveniently they are not talking. They say "we know the truth and the truth will prevail." But it won't if you don't tell it. And Jermaine, Dude, I'm not about to buy some lame ass book to find out who killed MJ. So if you know, be a man and spill it. If MJ is indeed dead, and you wanted to sell that book of yours, you should have let the illusion continue until AFTER the book came out because if MJ's gone I won't buy another Jackson item EVER. Not only on principle but also because I don't know who's pocket the money will go in and I'm not keeping up some murdering SOB. Some will say that's wrong to think that way and "what about MJ's kids," well, if those children are ever in need of the money I will be the first one to send a check directly to them and cut out the greedy bastards in between. Actually, it seems I would have been better off to send the money directly to MJ all along. If he needed it, I would have...and been happy to do it. Still would. /rant
*Probably should delete this instead of hit submit but I ain't gonna. So, as always, JMO and YMMV and all that jazz.
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*sigh* all this drama
I personally think Jermaine is right on track when he says "It astonishes me how people are side-tracked by fantasy fiction when the goal should be seeking justice for the death of Michael". Now hear me out. Whether the death is literal or figurative is what we've (Ok I've) often gotten stuck on.
Let me try explaining this another way. If I wanted you to find a pot of gold, and I made it like a treasure hunt and left little clues and steps along the way to get you to the pot of gold, I would smack my head in desperation of you stopped at every clue and looked at it, weighed it, smelled it, tasted it, compared it to the other clues, etc. Then to top it off, I would just scream if you then held up the clue and said "you see this IS a treasure hunt!" Then if you were to spend the rest of the time trying to convince people (the ones who said there is no treasure hunt and no clues) that there is a treasure hunt.... arrrggghhh! :D Do you know what I mean? Let the ones who think there are clues and a treasure hunt do that, and let the ones who just want to scan the terrain for the pot of gold do it that way. But we ALL want the same thing... the pot of gold!
Sometime hoaxers (me included) get so wrapped up in he's dead/he's not dead, it's a hoax/it's not a hoax debate we forget that there is a very real message and very real concern going on. I think I saw someone talking about it earlier in the thread about corruption in government, medical system, music industry, etc. Yes this has come up in the hoax but it is VERY REAL!
We NEED to clear MJ's name, we need to help set the record straight, and we need to expose the corruption behind how such a good man's name could get dragged through the mud, how people/celebrities are being murdered under our noses, how we are slaves believing we are free!
I'm not going to say any more... I'll just post a couple of old posts that touch on this from back in 2010.
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/05/13/the-unifying-of-tiai-tini-believers-and-non-believers-into-mjaol/
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/reminder-of-message/
I love you guys! bearhug
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Are some of these our guys? I think they might be. I feel for Jermaine
want to add they need to back off. hounding like this is not on.
Yes, also I was think remember TR said way back he will get his twitter verified, well he never did, coincidence?
I don't think anyone can say to believers to stop because of course people wanna know the truth, but I'm sure JJ likes the attention.
I know, it is probably hard for him with getting all these question along with some hater tweets but as soon as he answered questions about the hoax, a landslide came down and it's not going to stop, so MJ being the smart man he is would of known this, I also think he is answering these hoax questions because it's getting to the end, but in the meantime are people just supposed to keep asking until we check mate him or do they leave him alone?
But I am sure if he wanted the questions to stop he would say so.
Teddy's twitter is real. Just because it's not verified doesn't mean it's a fake. Look at Marlon as an example...
Anyway, here are two links that back up TeddyRiley1 as being the real Teddy's Twitter.
http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php ... &Itemid=82 (http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4185:teddy-riley-on-oprah&catid=85:latest-news&Itemid=82)
Teddy Riley On Oprah Print E-mail
MJ(20-11-2010) Seems Oprah Winfrey's not through with Michael Jackson yet. Yesterday, on his official Twitter account, Teddy Riley let it slip that he will be appearing on the Oprah show to talk about the King of Pop. Riley tweeted:
"On my way to Oprah to represent my mentor, big brother, & best friend. Michael J Jackson. Thank you for the times & greatness we shared."
Then, a few hours later Riley tweeted:
"I'm sorry yall, I got a call from my publicist I can't talk about the show til after it airs. Yall know I got a whole mouth fall [sic]. Yep Yep!!!"
"Ok this is all I can say, it will air on Dec 6th. I wish I can talk to yall but I can't...MJ fans much love to all of you."
You can follow Teddy Riley on Twitter at twitter.com/TeddyRiley1
Source: MJFC / twitter.com
http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-As ... 6fce8b1def (http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-Assaults-His-Daughter-And-All-Is-Aired-Out-On-Twitter.aspx?BlogID=af9b4e71-f17f-4565-9a47-b26fce8b1def)
I think people should quit harassing Jermaine. Teddy has already been told to keep quiet and this could be ruining any future information. Just my opinion but this isn't helpful so I hope we start being more respectful to these people. Blessings.
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
I couldn't agree more with this. It's seriously getting just downright pathetic. And people wonder why there's division amongst the fans? Um... DUH.
(http://www.newwaveinstruments.com/humor/misc/computer_grief_images/computer_grief.gif)
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Are some of these our guys? I think they might be. I feel for Jermaine
want to add they need to back off. hounding like this is not on.
Yes, also I was think remember TR said way back he will get his twitter verified, well he never did, coincidence?
I don't think anyone can say to believers to stop because of course people wanna know the truth, but I'm sure JJ likes the attention.
I know, it is probably hard for him with getting all these question along with some hater tweets but as soon as he answered questions about the hoax, a landslide came down and it's not going to stop, so MJ being the smart man he is would of known this, I also think he is answering these hoax questions because it's getting to the end, but in the meantime are people just supposed to keep asking until we check mate him or do they leave him alone?
But I am sure if he wanted the questions to stop he would say so.
Teddy's twitter is real. Just because it's not verified doesn't mean it's a fake. Look at Marlon as an example...
Anyway, here are two links that back up TeddyRiley1 as being the real Teddy's Twitter.
http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php ... &Itemid=82 (http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4185:teddy-riley-on-oprah&catid=85:latest-news&Itemid=82)
Teddy Riley On Oprah Print E-mail
MJ(20-11-2010) Seems Oprah Winfrey's not through with Michael Jackson yet. Yesterday, on his official Twitter account, Teddy Riley let it slip that he will be appearing on the Oprah show to talk about the King of Pop. Riley tweeted:
"On my way to Oprah to represent my mentor, big brother, & best friend. Michael J Jackson. Thank you for the times & greatness we shared."
Then, a few hours later Riley tweeted:
"I'm sorry yall, I got a call from my publicist I can't talk about the show til after it airs. Yall know I got a whole mouth fall [sic]. Yep Yep!!!"
"Ok this is all I can say, it will air on Dec 6th. I wish I can talk to yall but I can't...MJ fans much love to all of you."
You can follow Teddy Riley on Twitter at twitter.com/TeddyRiley1
Source: MJFC / twitter.com
http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-As ... 6fce8b1def (http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-Assaults-His-Daughter-And-All-Is-Aired-Out-On-Twitter.aspx?BlogID=af9b4e71-f17f-4565-9a47-b26fce8b1def)
I think people should quit harassing Jermaine. Teddy has already been told to keep quiet and this could be ruining any future information. Just my opinion but this isn't helpful so I hope we start being more respectful to these people. Blessings.
I know TR twitter is real but I'm saying he said he will verify it but he didn't, and if he did ages ago, what will be Jermaine's excuse now, he wouldn't be able to say one twitter isn't verified, so I am saying was this how it was going to go anyway.
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mj_bad/
Tonight’s story is somewhat unique and calls for a different kind of introduction
A monster had arrived in the village
The major ingredient of any recipe for fear is the unknown
And this person or thing is soon to be met
He knows every thought, he can feel every emotion
Oh yes, I did forget something didn’t I? I forgot to introduce you to the monster.
You’re fearing me, ‘cause you know I’m a beast
Watching you when you sleep, when you’re in bed
I’m underneath
You’re trapped in halls, and my face is the walls
I’m the floor when you fall, and when you scream it’s ‘cause of me
I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your head
I heard just what you said
That’s why you’ve got to be threatened by me
[CHORUS]
You should be watching me, you should feel threatened
Why you sleep, why you creep, you should be threatened
Every time your lady speaks she speaks to me, threatened
Half of me you’ll never be, so you should feel threatened by me
You think you’re by yourself, but it’s my touch you felt
I’m not a ghost from Hell, but I’ve got a spell on you
Your worst nightmare, it's me, I'm everywhere
In one blink I’ll disappear, and then I’ll come back to haunt you
I’m telling you, when you lie under a tomb
I’m the one watching you
That’s why you got to be threatened by me
[CHORUS]
[ROD SERLING VERSE]
The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear
A monster, the worst thing to fear.
[ROD SERLING OUTRO]
What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare.
It isn’t. It’s the beginning.
WE ARE IN A LIVE THRILLER! OK YOU GOT ME MICHAEL, I'M SCARED errrr afraid/ afraid/ afraid/ party/
But i'm enjoying it bounce/
And yeah, die heart beLIEvers should leave Jermain alone, seriously he will never tell you that Michael is alive, why waist time and your emotions? Plus Jermain will get pissed off lolol/ Sorry Jerm, they mean no harm, they are just very tired! Here is a big bearhug for you. WE LOVE YOU! We really do!
L.O.V.E to you all my friends! mj_dance/
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
Waoh! I wonder the same thing. Why this "hoaxers" are out of control. BUT, Jermaine did not told me to fuck off cause I did not disrespected him. I only supported "TouchByAngelM" question and he gave me his "answer". Now bec, why would say such thing? Should I turn my other cheek? Come on dude!
PS. It's all for love, right? bearhug
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Love it @Kristina4LOVE!!!
party/
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
Waoh! I wonder the same thing. Why this "hoaxers" are out of control. BUT, Jermaine did not told me to fuck off cause I did not disrespected him. I only supported "TouchByAngelM" question and he gave me his "answer". Now bec, why would say such thing? Should I turn my other cheek? Come on dude!
PS. It's all for love, right? bearhug
I know I keep on saying this but I love your avatar and I'm guessing your going to watch the final episode of Smallville...and how awesome is it that Lex is back (the real one this time)
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
Waoh! I wonder the same thing. Why this "hoaxers" are out of control. BUT, Jermaine did not told me to fuck off cause I did not disrespected him. I only supported "TouchByAngelM" question and he gave me his "answer". Now bec, why would say such thing? Should I turn my other cheek? Come on dude!
PS. It's all for love, right? bearhug
Yeahhhh... and then I softened because I can empathize. But still, Yambo, you're so rational and level headed... what were you thinking? To attempt public debate with Jermaine Jackson on the existence of the hoax? This is not the part of the script where Jermaine reveals the hoax on Twitter... it's not time yet or the point would be mute, questions like those just force him to deny it. He has to, you know that.
But a little part of me was cheering for you. Henda too. A very little part of me, but it was there.
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[font=Georgia:1a3vzg45]I really can't believe those people tweeting at Jermaine. Like I said before, it shows your own weakness. Why ask Jermaine questions you already know the answer to? Would you stop believing if JJ says MJ is dead? He said that from the start, this is nothing new. He can't say plain out that MJ is alive, simple as that. So if hoaxers are starting to bother him with hundreds of hoax tweets, demanding him to address it, what do they expect? They are asking Jermaine to say it's not a hoax, because he will never say it is. There is no use in tweeting Jermaine about this and I think he gets pretty annoyed by it as well, some are very disrespectful. A lot of hoaxers are still only searching for clues, while the reasons are not discussed. Pearl only makes clue videos and is making the hoax a fun thing . It may be fun at times, but there are serious matters that are overlooked or simply dismissed by many hoaxers.
Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.[/font:1a3vzg45]
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
Waoh! I wonder the same thing. Why this "hoaxers" are out of control. BUT, Jermaine did not told me to fuck off cause I did not disrespected him. I only supported "TouchByAngelM" question and he gave me his "answer". Now bec, why would say such thing? Should I turn my other cheek? Come on dude!
PS. It's all for love, right? bearhug
Yeahhhh... and then I softened because I can empathize. But still, Yambo, you're so rational and level headed... what were you thinking? To attempt public debate with Jermaine Jackson on the existence of the hoax? This is not the part of the script where Jermaine reveals the hoax on Twitter... it's not time yet or the point would be mute, questions like those just force him to deny it. He has to, you know that.
But a little part of me was cheering for you. Henda too. A very little part of me, but it was there.
No, I was not attempting a debate with Jermi. In fact, It was my first time asking him a "hoax" question. Like I said, I supported my friend (TouchByAngelM) question. I was surprised he replied back and I respected his answer and I left it there. I might not be a good investigator on the hoax but I can give you a hug and forgive you a thousand times. Who did i learned that from? Michael Joe Jackson. rr/
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Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.
YES! YES! YES! SOUZA!!! Oh my gosh can you hear me cheering all the way in Canada?!!!
WOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!
Here I am.....[youtube:2dxayktq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BzYDsWD6Q0[/youtube:2dxayktq]
http://lilwendy.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/mjdhits-update-4-case-for-faith/
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[font=Georgia:yupvxi42]Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.[/font:yupvxi42]
Great reminder Souza! Coffee? :lol:
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Omg henda... needs to stfu.
This is outrageous. These hoaxers are out of control and out of line.
If I were Jermaine I would tell them all to fuck off.
They need to shut up... this makes me so anxious, I can't even sit still after reading them.
Waoh! I wonder the same thing. Why this "hoaxers" are out of control. BUT, Jermaine did not told me to fuck off cause I did not disrespected him. I only supported "TouchByAngelM" question and he gave me his "answer". Now bec, why would say such thing? Should I turn my other cheek? Come on dude!
PS. It's all for love, right? bearhug
I know I keep on saying this but I love your avatar and I'm guessing your going to watch the final episode of Smallville...and how awesome is it that Lex is back (the real one this time)
Oh you bet I am! beerchug
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[font=Georgia:2dnxx9jc]Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.[/font:2dnxx9jc]
Great reminder Souza! Coffee? :lol:
[font=Georgia:2dnxx9jc]Double Espresso please![/font:2dnxx9jc]
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[font=Georgia:2pc2gob6]Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.[/font:2pc2gob6]
Great reminder Souza! Coffee? :lol:
[font=Georgia:2pc2gob6]Double Espresso please![/font:2pc2gob6]
Here you go...
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beerchug
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Are some of these our guys? I think they might be. I feel for Jermaine
want to add they need to back off. hounding like this is not on.
Yes, also I was think remember TR said way back he will get his twitter verified, well he never did, coincidence?
I don't think anyone can say to believers to stop because of course people wanna know the truth, but I'm sure JJ likes the attention.
I know, it is probably hard for him with getting all these question along with some hater tweets but as soon as he answered questions about the hoax, a landslide came down and it's not going to stop, so MJ being the smart man he is would of known this, I also think he is answering these hoax questions because it's getting to the end, but in the meantime are people just supposed to keep asking until we check mate him or do they leave him alone?
But I am sure if he wanted the questions to stop he would say so.
Teddy's twitter is real. Just because it's not verified doesn't mean it's a fake. Look at Marlon as an example...
Anyway, here are two links that back up TeddyRiley1 as being the real Teddy's Twitter.
http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php ... &Itemid=82 (http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4185:teddy-riley-on-oprah&catid=85:latest-news&Itemid=82)
Teddy Riley On Oprah Print E-mail
MJ(20-11-2010) Seems Oprah Winfrey's not through with Michael Jackson yet. Yesterday, on his official Twitter account, Teddy Riley let it slip that he will be appearing on the Oprah show to talk about the King of Pop. Riley tweeted:
"On my way to Oprah to represent my mentor, big brother, & best friend. Michael J Jackson. Thank you for the times & greatness we shared."
Then, a few hours later Riley tweeted:
"I'm sorry yall, I got a call from my publicist I can't talk about the show til after it airs. Yall know I got a whole mouth fall [sic]. Yep Yep!!!"
"Ok this is all I can say, it will air on Dec 6th. I wish I can talk to yall but I can't...MJ fans much love to all of you."
You can follow Teddy Riley on Twitter at twitter.com/TeddyRiley1
Source: MJFC / twitter.com
http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-As ... 6fce8b1def (http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-Assaults-His-Daughter-And-All-Is-Aired-Out-On-Twitter.aspx?BlogID=af9b4e71-f17f-4565-9a47-b26fce8b1def)
I think people should quit harassing Jermaine. Teddy has already been told to keep quiet and this could be ruining any future information. Just my opinion but this isn't helpful so I hope we start being more respectful to these people. Blessings.
I know TR twitter is real but I'm saying he said he will verify it but he didn't, and if he did ages ago, what will be Jermaine's excuse now, he wouldn't be able to say one twitter isn't verified, so I am saying was this how it was going to go anyway.
I was speaking to Jermaine's tweet, not your reply. But I do agree with you - if he would get his Twitter verified there would be no question about the legitimacy. Maybe this will give TR reason to do so :)
Jermaine is the only one who's been saying anything. And he is also the one that said Marlon's twitter account was fake and it wasn't. There is too much solid information to ignore.
And I agree with Souza, I think we need to start looking at deeper matters instead of continuing to look for clues, which we've been given plenty. What bother me is that the belief among unbelievers (and apparently Jermaine) is that beLIEvers are only looking for clues, which isn't true. We are also doing our part to vindicate Michael and hold people accountable for writing malicious and false information about him. We want justice for Michael too. Apparently that's not very evident. But that's okay. We'll keep on keeping on because we know what we've done to help.
Blessings to each of you.
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Jermaine Jacksn frustrates me!
Don't know why he feels like he has to clear everything up right now. Why he is adressing this now after such a long time.
None of the other brothers or sisters say anything about it.
It's clear that Jermaine has been reading one or more forums at one time or another since he is so agitated about the believers. Maybe because many peple here don't think much about his own career or singing abilities.
I find all of this very strange.... since he is the one doing all the slip-ups......
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Jermaine Jacksn frustrates me!
Don't know why he feels like he has to clear everything up right now. Why he is adressing this now after such a long time.
None of the other brothers or sisters say anything about it.
It's clear that Jermaine has been reading one or more forums at one time or another since he is so agitated about the believers. Maybe because many peple here don't think much about his own career or singing abilities.
I find all of this very strange.... since he is the one doing all the slip-ups......
:lol: I love that attached certificate, but it rather belongs to Michael since he has been naughty for 2 years. :lol:
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You guys make me laugh ...and thats a good thing.
Sending my love to all....
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Are some of these our guys? I think they might be. I feel for Jermaine
want to add they need to back off. hounding like this is not on.
Yes, also I was think remember TR said way back he will get his twitter verified, well he never did, coincidence?
I don't think anyone can say to believers to stop because of course people wanna know the truth, but I'm sure JJ likes the attention.
I know, it is probably hard for him with getting all these question along with some hater tweets but as soon as he answered questions about the hoax, a landslide came down and it's not going to stop, so MJ being the smart man he is would of known this, I also think he is answering these hoax questions because it's getting to the end, but in the meantime are people just supposed to keep asking until we check mate him or do they leave him alone?
But I am sure if he wanted the questions to stop he would say so.
Teddy's twitter is real. Just because it's not verified doesn't mean it's a fake. Look at Marlon as an example...
Anyway, here are two links that back up TeddyRiley1 as being the real Teddy's Twitter.
http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php ... &Itemid=82 (http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4185:teddy-riley-on-oprah&catid=85:latest-news&Itemid=82)
Teddy Riley On Oprah Print E-mail
MJ(20-11-2010) Seems Oprah Winfrey's not through with Michael Jackson yet. Yesterday, on his official Twitter account, Teddy Riley let it slip that he will be appearing on the Oprah show to talk about the King of Pop. Riley tweeted:
"On my way to Oprah to represent my mentor, big brother, & best friend. Michael J Jackson. Thank you for the times & greatness we shared."
Then, a few hours later Riley tweeted:
"I'm sorry yall, I got a call from my publicist I can't talk about the show til after it airs. Yall know I got a whole mouth fall [sic]. Yep Yep!!!"
"Ok this is all I can say, it will air on Dec 6th. I wish I can talk to yall but I can't...MJ fans much love to all of you."
You can follow Teddy Riley on Twitter at twitter.com/TeddyRiley1
Source: MJFC / twitter.com
http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-As ... 6fce8b1def (http://dimewars.com/Blog/Teddy-Riley-Assaults-His-Daughter-And-All-Is-Aired-Out-On-Twitter.aspx?BlogID=af9b4e71-f17f-4565-9a47-b26fce8b1def)
I think people should quit harassing Jermaine. Teddy has already been told to keep quiet and this could be ruining any future information. Just my opinion but this isn't helpful so I hope we start being more respectful to these people. Blessings.
I know TR twitter is real but I'm saying he said he will verify it but he didn't, and if he did ages ago, what will be Jermaine's excuse now, he wouldn't be able to say one twitter isn't verified, so I am saying was this how it was going to go anyway.
I was speaking to Jermaine's tweet, not your reply. But I do agree with you - if he would get his Twitter verified there would be no question about the legitimacy. Maybe this will give TR reason to do so :)
Jermaine is the only one who's been saying anything. And he is also the one that said Marlon's twitter account was fake and it wasn't. There is too much solid information to ignore.
And I agree with Souza, I think we need to start looking at deeper matters instead of continuing to look for clues, which we've been given plenty. What bother me is that the belief among unbelievers (and apparently Jermaine) is that beLIEvers are only looking for clues, which isn't true. We are also doing our part to vindicate Michael and hold people accountable for writing malicious and false information about him. We want justice for Michael too. Apparently that's not very evident. But that's okay. We'll keep on keeping on because we know what we've done to help.
Blessings to each of you.
Oh my bad... beerchug
Jermaine just tweeted this by the way;
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@angelikspirit it's more upsetting for them in the long-run, I fear. thank you for your concern
1 hour ago
In reply to this;
@jermjackson5 I saw that damn HOAX video and I am so UPSET. They out to make you look foolish and I'm not having that! I believe MJJ is alive only in my heart and I feel his presence every day and it's so profound that explaining it is w/o words. They ig-nant ppl, ignore them. Love ya!
Which hoax video are they talking about?
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Looking at her rant, probably mine lolol/
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Looking at her rant, probably mine lolol/
:lol: We are not making fun of them! bounce/
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I wonder why TMZ hasn't picked up on it yet :) Wouldn't surprise me :)
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I didn't know what to do with these, but I decided to put them here. These are Jermaine's DMs to me. The proof he knew long ago about the hoax but he replies after 2 years. I don't like at all what he said.
I don't want anybody to jump on me, so this will be probably my only post here. I wanted to let you all know about what he said.
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6316/70422519.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/70422519.jpg/)
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3811/74109875.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/74109875.jpg/)
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8272/70780699.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/70780699.jpg/)
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@Vera, thanks...I thought you weren't a believer.
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Took you a long time Jermain! Too long and now it's too late! michael-jackson/
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DMs now being posted publicly. Great. So now Jermaine's been given something else to get annoyed with believers about. Just great. Show the man some respect for heaven's sake.
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I can't believe it.
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So that´s the Vera_60 who trapped him? Now publishing DM´s?
Sorry I have no words... pale/
I´m wondering when Jermaine will have enough and close his account...
Probably after the book is available and published successfully...
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[font=Georgia:1b9lwga3]I really can't believe those people tweeting at Jermaine. Like I said before, it shows your own weakness. Why ask Jermaine questions you already know the answer to? Would you stop believing if JJ says MJ is dead? He said that from the start, this is nothing new. He can't say plain out that MJ is alive, simple as that. So if hoaxers are starting to bother him with hundreds of hoax tweets, demanding him to address it, what do they expect? They are asking Jermaine to say it's not a hoax, because he will never say it is. There is no use in tweeting Jermaine about this and I think he gets pretty annoyed by it as well, some are very disrespectful. A lot of hoaxers are still only searching for clues, while the reasons are not discussed. Pearl only makes clue videos and is making the hoax a fun thing . It may be fun at times, but there are serious matters that are overlooked or simply dismissed by many hoaxers.
Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.[/font:1b9lwga3]
Very well said Souza.. Obviously a brother will protect his sibling. He will not shout it out from the top of his lungs YES MY BROTHER MICHAEL IS ALIVE AND HE IS LIVING IN ?? we have to be realistic here guys. What would you do in his case? Would you rat your sibling out? I WOULDN'T
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Vera, are you the one who had insulted this hoax forum? If so, why? We aren't hurting anyone here. And I would still like to welcome you although I disagree with you posting private messages here. However, I'm sure Jermaine may have considered you would do this. Anyway, welcome. We may rub off on you as a good influence. We love the Jackson fam here and its not nice or safe to patronize any of them. They have been kind enough to drop clues for us, so take it or leave it. In the words of the Jackson 5 "Get it together, or leave it alone."
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Vera, are you the one who had insulted this hoax forum?
Just a cunning strategy to force Jermaine talk. :x
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[font=Georgia:m7sjcnwz]I really can't believe those people tweeting at Jermaine. Like I said before, it shows your own weakness. Why ask Jermaine questions you already know the answer to? Would you stop believing if JJ says MJ is dead? He said that from the start, this is nothing new. He can't say plain out that MJ is alive, simple as that. So if hoaxers are starting to bother him with hundreds of hoax tweets, demanding him to address it, what do they expect? They are asking Jermaine to say it's not a hoax, because he will never say it is. There is no use in tweeting Jermaine about this and I think he gets pretty annoyed by it as well, some are very disrespectful. A lot of hoaxers are still only searching for clues, while the reasons are not discussed. Pearl only makes clue videos and is making the hoax a fun thing . It may be fun at times, but there are serious matters that are overlooked or simply dismissed by many hoaxers.
Besides that, now TS' questions pops to mind. Do you think for yourself? Do you need Jermaine's confirmation to believe it's a hoax? Or do you trust your own judgement after 2 years of investigation? You are being tested and will you be able to keep the faith NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS?? In other words, do you trust yourself? Are you strong enough to stand for what you believe even when it's strongly opposed? Many in here believe in God/Allah or any name you give Him, will you stop believing in God when someone tells you He doesn't exist? I can tell you, there is way less proof that God exists than that MJ is alive, so I am surprised that so many hoaxers loose faith so easily.[/font:m7sjcnwz]
Wonderfully said Souza, thank you.I am the same opinion, absolutely.
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Go and see what Jermaine is saying. He says he will not stop until he makes all fans stop believing Michael is alive.
I am so afraid he will talk about this publicly, if he is so enraged about this all, and probably this forum will go down for good.
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Yeah...but take a look at the tweets he's getting from hurting believers:
Try all you want, I'm not stopping. You made me cry, I thought you was better than that, I was wrong.
It's Teddy Riley who keeps believers hopes high. He's such an asshole omg.
Yeah and MJ also LOVES his fans, we are like family to him so Jermaine shouldn't treat us like shit, okay?
No other person in the Jackson family has caused so much shit, neither have they adressed the believers. Only him. Why?
tell your truth here !! ahahahha or you don't say here coz it's free?? eh? it's all for l.o.v.e jermaine no for m.o.n.e.y!
I'm glad I got Jermaine talking to us, and that is an accomplishment on my behalf lol but he's so disgusting it's unbelievable.
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JERMAINE'S LATEST TWEETS
I will continue until people stop believing in a fallacy based on semantics. It is more hurtful to perpetuate this myth.
I appreciate the pain that truth causes. But loving fans are being misled and it must stop.
I prefer for them to respect themselves & understand the reality that we’ve all had to deal with
the truth can hurt. I ask you to consider how hurtful it is for family to read tweets saying Michael is alive when he’s not.
If I help one, it’s enough
Love binds us all, in purpose and spirit — let’s never forget that. Have a wonderful day everyone.
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"Go and see what Jermaine is saying. He says he will not stop until he makes all fans stop believing Michael is alive."
Bring on Jermaine. But this time do the right thing. Show us officially we're wrong and that all lanes are merely the fruits of our imagination. But everything has to be very convincing, or will not count. :roll:
Guys,Jermaine may just be jealous. Imagine the people entering his twitter just to talk about Michael! Remember Jermaine is also an artist and want attention from fans too!
mj_bad/
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I am so afraid he will talk about this publicly, if he is so enraged about this all, and probably this forum will go down for good.
:? :?
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Go and see what Jermaine is saying. He says he will not stop until he makes all fans stop believing Michael is alive.
I am so afraid he will talk about this publicly, if he is so enraged about this all, and probably this forum will go down for good.
The only way he could do that would be to offer up some proof and he's not going to do that. And, at this point, what proof would convince us anyway? He should have addressed this a long time ago if he wanted it stopped.
Also, if he speaks publicly about it I hope Souza has the servers buckled down and ready to go because everybody will show up here to find out what's going on.
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Who are these people making comments like this? Are they really believers? Are they just trying to cause trouble? This is upsetting me now - these tweets are unbelievably rude. How can people think it's ok to talk like this about anyone, let alone the family of someone they profess to 'love'? I don't think I'm going to read any more on this thread. I'm disgusted.
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If Michael is dead what's the family excuse?
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Show us officially we're wrong
Um...who are we? Same on Twitter? I 'm afraid we became a little too demanding if not arrogant. Have we forgotten our place? Isn't Jermaine speaking for Michael? Do you think he would persevere in this campaign if this wasn't his agenda? By attacking him, we attack Michael. What have we become really? A bunch of nuts.
Generally speaking.
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Go and see what Jermaine is saying. He says he will not stop until he makes all fans stop believing Michael is alive.
I am so afraid he will talk about this publicly, if he is so enraged about this all, and probably this forum will go down for good.
Im really trying to understand how he thinks he can do this
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i think he knows, he is just doing it for his peace of mind i guess. Or Michael's.
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Jermaine talks about semantics. Well saying MJ's dead, has to be back up with concrete evidence and he knows that. Any politician/lawyer knows that when you don't have evidence or facts to back something up, you mudsling or get emotional. I think the person's move in pushing JJ for answers was immature, but on the other hand I'm sure that MJ knows how to roll with the punches, adapt to every situation and I don't think it will in any way affect anything seriously in MJ hoaxland.
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WHERE IS THE FAITH, FAMILY?
WHERE IS EMPATHY?
WHERE IS RESPECT?
WHERE IS TRUST?
WHERE IS
YOU ?
Already jumped into river Jordan?
He gives another smile, tries to understand her side
To show that he cares
She can't stay in her room
She's consumed with everything that's been goin' on
She says
[Chorus]
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Everything will be alright, he assures her
But she doesn't hear a word that he say
Preoccupied, she's afraid
Afraid that what they're doing is not right
He doesn't know what to say, so he prays
Whatever, whatever, whatever
[Chorus]
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Don't let go of my hand
Don't let go of my hand
He's working day and night, thinks he'll make her happy
Forgetting all the dreams that he had
He doesn't realize it's not the end of the world
It doesn't have to be that bad
She tries to explain, "It's you that makes me happy,"
Whatever, whatever, whatever
[Chorus]
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever Happens lyrics
Michael Jackson.
An interesting read:
Jesus' Method of Disciple Training
A Vacation Bible School Curriculum by Barry McWilliams
an ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church in America
Jesus' 7 Steps in Disciple Training
The Gospels have a two fold purpose:
To present Jesus and the Gospel!
To prepare the church to continue His ministry!
The second is not as obvious as the first, but with careful study of Jesus' methodology, a pattern becomes clear. This summary of His steps in training disciples is based on the following studies: With Christ in the School of Disciple Building, by Carl Wilson (Zondervan, 1979) - a detailed exposition of these stages. The Master Plan of Evangelism(Fleming H. Revell Co., 1979), by Robert E. Coleman ; The Training of the Twelve(Kregel Publications, 1971) by A. B. Bruce - very valuable studies of Christ's methods of training his disciples. The Gospels are more than sources for our teaching about Jesus, they are also "manuals" for continuing His mission!
What was Jesus' master plan to reach the world?
His Mission was to...
to reveal Himself as God's son come to redeem God's people
to offer Himself up as an atoning sacrifice
to reach all of God's people with this Gospel
His Task was further complicated by...
self-imposed human limitations (Phil 2:6-8)
a ministry of only 3.5 years
limited to 30 AD technology and communications
His Goal...
To establish the church, the body of Christ.
To reach all of God's elect in every nation.
His Method was simple...
First to select, disciple and train 12 ordinary men who will be able to evangelize, disciple and train others in the same task.
Then to turn them loose equipped with the Word and the Holy Spirit to disciple the nations.
We can see a pattern in the ministry of disciple training that Jesus carried on. He did not try to reach all the masses with the Gospel. Even if He had wanted to, the task would be too big. Rather He concentrated on a few selected ordinary men, who were "with Him" and to whom He gave both verbal instruction and a constant example - preparing them though their time with Him to do the same. A similar method of discipleship was practiced by the early churches in Acts.
The Gospels were written not only to teach us about Christ and His ministry, but also to serve as a pattern for us, guiding the church in its mission to reach the world. That is why they are much more than a biography of Jesus. While each has its own particular themes and emphases, together they give us a rather complete picture of the Master's plan that he has passed on to His church.
Jesus trained first 12 disciples, then a second generation of 70, using basically the same pattern. This pattern continued in the growing church in Acts. When you have grasped the stages of Jesus' plan for disciple building, then you can much better understand both the Gospel accounts and the unfolding of various events in the life of Jesus. And you will see the value of careful reading and study of the Gospels' accounts of the ministry of the Lord for you as you seek to be His disciple.
The Seven Step Disciple Training Program
Step one: Bring someone to repentance and faith - conversion: Mark 1:14,15; John 1:29ff
Before anyone can become a disciple of Jesus, they must first be born again. This salvation is entirely God's work through the atoning death of Jesus on the cross. Having been redeemed in Him, a man or woman responds in repentance and faith, embracing Christ as Savior and Lord.
The testimonies of Jesus' early disciples, recorded in John 1 show the faith they had in Him right after they became believers.
Step Two: Enlightenment and Guidance - Help them develop a personal relationship with Jesus.
A new Christian needs to get to know Him better. A believer needs to understand the significance of Christ's person, natures, and ministry. He also needs to understand God's will for us as disciples: learning, following, serving one another, and sharing our faith with others.
Only John records for us the 8 months of Jesus' beginning ministry with the first disciples. A period of time when they became better acquainted and learned much listening to Jesus teach and watching Him minister. (cf John 2:11)
Step Three: ministry training and encouragement. - Give them increasing opportunity to minister and serve.
Jesus was engaged at this time in His ministry in Capernaum, where His tremendous miracles of healing attracted large numbers of people, crowds greater than He could handle alone and and this increased public ministry required more workers. The disciples learned how to minister gradually through assistance in small tasks and by observation of the master at work.
Eventually Jesus issued a call to his disciples to become fishers of men: i.e. disciplers. This was more than a call to faith, it was a call to join Him in His mission to mankind.
Step Four: Leadership development and Christian character - prepare them to serve the body of Christ - the church
Jesus was ready to establish leadership for his church with the designation of "The Twelve" apostles. He spent several months training and selecting them out of a much larger group. (This method parallels the NT Church's method of designating leadership.) Jesus selected those who had already the commitment to follow and serve, and who had already shown their quality and potential to Him.
With the establishment of organization and leadership, they were structured as a team - there were no "bosses" - they were all submissive to the Lord and mutually to each other. Jesus rebuked any attempts at power plays. Jesus began sending them out into the outlying regions (in pairs on carefully defined missions under His supervision. (Mt 9:35-11:1; Mk 6:6-13, Luke 9:1-6).
At the same time, Jesus withdrew to less populous regions. During this time there was increased teaching about the kingdom of God, emphasizing the character of believers. (The Sermon on Mount and the Kingdom parables were given at this time.) He used any miracles to strengthen individual believers, no longer to attract crowds.
Step Five: Reevaluation and Separation - Helping disciples to evaluate their values and separate themselves from the world to follow Christ fully.
Many were following Jesus for temporal reasons: economic and health benefits, rather than for the "eternal" life He offered. They needed to be forced to choose between Christ and the World. Eternal values must take precedence over temporal concerns. Here the reality of their faith and repentance was tested repeatedly.
This testing in Step five came about in a series of crises: John the baptist was first imprisoned, and then beheaded (Mt 14:13). Jesus resisted the crowds wanting to making him King, because his mission was to bring the Bread of life. (John 6). The Feeding of 5,000 (Jn 6:1-14), and the storm at sea (16-21) [cf Psa 107:23-32, Psa 77:19; Mark 6:52] also became tests of the disciples' faith in Him. In the Bread of Life discourse, Jesus confronted those who followed him for temporal benefits.
This testing was necessary because the disciples needed to know who Jesus was if they were to remain with Him in the face of the growing opposition of the Pharisees and when the crowds deserted him. Jesus' bread of life discourse and other hard sayings caused many to depart. (Jn 6:60ff)
In the events on the Mount of transfiguration, we see Jesus' closest disciples (James, Peter and John) wrestling with their own values and faith, and this continued as as Jesus began to teach them about the cross. (cf Matt 16:16-20 and 22,23!! 17:4 ("Shelters" = "tabernacles" = "places of worship"?) and 6; 17-23!! Such confusion in their hearts and minds.)
Jesus' "Take up your cross" saying in Mark 8 comes in this context. His disciples must be ready to hold fast to Him whatever the cost.
Step six: Participation and delegation - development of the community of believers (Mt 17:22ff ,Mk 9:30ff , Luke 9:44ff)
There were again growing numbers of disciples (due in part to the ministry of the Twelve) but there were also growing tensions. It was about this time that a second generation of disciples were called in the choosing of the Seventy. (The exact details are unclear, but it appears that they too were going step by step through the stages of discipleship.)
These Jesus sent out to specific cities in advance of His coming in 35 teams of two. About this time we have a repetition of earlier teaching for this new group of disciples. Only Luke records this period of Jesus ministry which we call the Perean ministry. (Luke 11-13)
The Gospels record the giving of many guidelines for interpersonal relationships at this time. The body has to learn how to relate to one another and the world around them. (Mt 17,18, Mk 9:33-50; Luke 9:49-62)
how to relate to the Jews
how to relate to each other
how to relate to independent ministries
how to deal with false teachers
how to deal with those who stray from obedience
dealing with brothers who offend
how to relate to jealous believers
how to deal with new converts and disciples
problems: divorce, riches
Jesus' teaching about the Church is reaching completion. About this time Jesus made some important claims of deity in preparation for evangelism of the World.
Step Seven: An Exchanged life and a Worldwide challenge The events of the last week: Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, and later Pentacost, had an earthshaking impact on the disciples. First their hopes for a kingdom in this world were forever shattered even as for a moment they were scattered. However, reassured of God's grace, endowed with the power of the Holy Spirit, they were now ready to press forward with a worldwide vision and mission - the Great commission. The challenge was for them to continue the ministry of Christ by discipling as He discipled, generation after generation, undergoing to lead men and women through the same steps to maturity and ministry. They came to understand that Christ was present with them through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the church moved forward with the power given them to.
Those who would be Jesus' disciples are those who are willing to let go of themselves and let God work in and through them, pressing on in faith and obedience to all that Jesus has commanded: "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I will be with you always, to the very end of the age." Matt 28:18-20
http://www.eldrbarry.net/vbs/3/gali11.htm (http://www.eldrbarry.net/vbs/3/gali11.htm)
With the L.O.V.E.
Keep the faith.
I think some may find in the darkest, smallest corner the doubt, the fear of Michael being really dead.
The mean trick we do to ourselves in this is this:
as long as FEAR is reigning in our minds - and be it FEAR THAT MICHAEL DIED or be it our very PERSONAL FEAR OF DEATH - we will be blocked in our minds and NOT READY to work together with Michael on the HUGE job we'll have to do.
Let your fear go, let Michael go and see how easy life will be.
When there's nothing left to lose - that's when freedom, strength and power will set in and mountains can really be moved.
CHANGE starts with allowing to die, fade away and be left behind.
As long as we cling to Michael or any other icon, authority, master or whoever is controlling our life, as long as we do not allow to lose, Michael cannot come back to friends but will forever be imprisoned to be the one on stage having to look downwards because others cannot stop from looking up to him.
I think it's about time after all to allow the man to have a conversation one-on-one.
Keep the faith.
Silence has a cleaning and clearing aspect of purification. Use this time well, not for impatience but for good.
There's nothing wrong with resting still for a while and listening to ourselves and our heartbeat and breathing only.
There is no need to bother Jermaine and there's equally no need to bother TR or TS or whoever you have invited to be important for you in this set. There is all need to sit back, let it simmer and sizzle only when the target is clearly identified. And most of what this disappearance is targetting is located within ourselves, not in court, not in judges, physicians or drug dealers. It is us being questioned.
The answer is simple. MAKE THAT CHANGE STARTING WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR.
A good read:
Beyond fear: a Toltec guide to freedom and joy : the teachings of Don Miguel Ruiz
Fear is the source of all of the negative agreements we’ve made with life. It can alienate us from the joy that is our birthright. When we are able to look at our lives without fear or judgments, we realize that reality can be whatever we want it to be. Beyond Fear leads seekers of the Toltec way of freedom and joy on their spiritual journey into a state of empowerment.
http://richardeward.com/37/beyond-fear-a-toltec-guide-to-freedom-and-joy-the-teachings-of-don-miguel-ruiz/ (http://richardeward.com/37/beyond-fear-a-toltec-guide-to-freedom-and-joy-the-teachings-of-don-miguel-ruiz/)
This book is available in all bookstores for small money and may change your life.
bearhug Blessings to all.
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Are we allowed to comment what Jermaine says without being told to keep the faith on and on?
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Well if this was some kind of a test... many have failed.
I'm not feeling the love or the binding. :cry:
Maybe I'm not getting the full picture.
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For every rude person on twitter there are at least 1000 nice and polite believers who wouldn´t even think about being impolite. I hope Jermaine is aware of that.
Um...who are we? Same on Twitter? I 'm afraid we became a little too demanding if not arrogant.
We haven´t done anything heart.
The person who started this earthquake was none of us, my gut feeling was right. She just jumped in for 1 post to let us know that she / he is someone who likes to publish DM´s.
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Yeah..damage has been done... crash/ crash/ crash/ crash/ crash/ crash/
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Isn't it possible Vera&co to be nonbelievers?
I think they are nonbelievers. They are usually very rude. Remember when they came in the guest forum suspicious// ?
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Vera is just one of them. They are hundreds and i don't think they're all pretending. And not all believers are fans...
Nonbelievers aren't as rude as believers, trust me. I follow both sides. They just want Murray in jail that's all.
Have we had a pre-existent condition /emotions as believers i wonder? Why are believers behaving like that on twitter? Or is it just despair?
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LucyLovesMJ Lucy Emma Foster
Urghh, no offense @JermJackson5, but I think it's best if you shut up. Many people are getting hurt by your tweets, I hope you know that.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@LucyLovesMJ the truth can hurt. I ask you to consider how hurtful it is for family to read tweets saying Michael is alive when he's not
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
If I help one, it's enough RT @afriendofficial: @jermjackson5 When u talked about hoax theory u helped some people accept the sad reality...
LucyLovesMJ Lucy Emma Foster
Jermaine is now DMing me. @jermjackson5 - Tell MICHAEL'S fans what you just told me through DM. Why not make it public?
@jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@LucyLovesMJ Ok. I will continue until people stop believing in a fallacy based on semantics. It is more hurtful to perpetuate this myth
LucyLovesMJ Lucy Emma Foster
@jermjackson5 Better. You do realize that you're making things worse? I'm crying right now. I don't wanna argue with you, Jermaine. :'(
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@LucyLovesMJ I appreciate the pain that truth causes. But loving fans are being misled and it must stop
Randygirl4life Julie Richards
I wish ppl would show some respect to @jermjackson5 He doesnt deserve to be attacked every time he tweets
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@Randygirl4life I prefer for them to respect themselves & understand the reality that we've all had to deal with, but thank you
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Seriously belivers need to stop asking him about the hoax. NOW! This is not getting any better.
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Seriously belivers need to stop asking him about the hoax. NOW! This is not getting any better.
Agreed! It's not a good thing to harras him with all this talk about the hoax. respect/ What do they expect him to say? Yes MIchael is alive and will come back very soon. :roll: The only thing he can do is stop this talking as soon as possible and that gives him no choice than to denie the hoax as effective as he can.
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The response of Jermaine, I think he will speak it publicly. Imagine if he hires a press conference along with other family members to dispell this "myth" as he says.
Folks, things will be complicated for believers. Will become very clear to me that Michael will never return. I hope to see where it goes.
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Could someone with Twitter post the link to Jermaine's Twitter page again? I can't remember what page it is on. Thanks!
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Wow, he seems pretty upset with whoever is harrassing him like this... Smh. This hoax thing is hard...
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Seriously belivers need to stop asking him about the hoax. NOW! This is not getting any better.
Agreed! It's not a good thing to harras him with all this talk about the hoax. respect/ What do they expect him to say? Yes MIchael is alive and will come back very soon. :roll: The only thing he can do is stop this talking as soon as possible and that gives him no choice than to denie the hoax as effective as he can.
I wasn't, and I'm sure nobody was, expecting him to respond "Yes Michael's alive." when we asked him about the hoax, we expected him to ignore it like he always had. Of course I still believe Michael is alive, but why is he letting Jermaine do this to us?
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WHERE IS THE FAITH, FAMILY?
WHERE IS EMPATHY?
WHERE IS RESPECT?
WHERE IS TRUST?
WHERE IS
YOU ?
Already jumped into river Jordan?
He gives another smile, tries to understand her side
To show that he cares
She can't stay in her room
She's consumed with everything that's been goin' on
She says
[Chorus]
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Everything will be alright, he assures her
But she doesn't hear a word that he say
Preoccupied, she's afraid
Afraid that what they're doing is not right
He doesn't know what to say, so he prays
Whatever, whatever, whatever
[Chorus]
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Don't let go of my hand
Don't let go of my hand
He's working day and night, thinks he'll make her happy
Forgetting all the dreams that he had
He doesn't realize it's not the end of the world
It doesn't have to be that bad
She tries to explain, "It's you that makes me happy,"
Whatever, whatever, whatever
[Chorus]
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand
Whatever happens, don't let go of my hand
Whatever Happens lyrics
Michael Jackson.
An interesting read:
Jesus' Method of Disciple Training
A Vacation Bible School Curriculum by Barry McWilliams
an ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church in America
Jesus' 7 Steps in Disciple Training
The Gospels have a two fold purpose:
To present Jesus and the Gospel!
To prepare the church to continue His ministry!
The second is not as obvious as the first, but with careful study of Jesus' methodology, a pattern becomes clear. This summary of His steps in training disciples is based on the following studies: With Christ in the School of Disciple Building, by Carl Wilson (Zondervan, 1979) - a detailed exposition of these stages. The Master Plan of Evangelism(Fleming H. Revell Co., 1979), by Robert E. Coleman ; The Training of the Twelve(Kregel Publications, 1971) by A. B. Bruce - very valuable studies of Christ's methods of training his disciples. The Gospels are more than sources for our teaching about Jesus, they are also "manuals" for continuing His mission!
What was Jesus' master plan to reach the world?
His Mission was to...
to reveal Himself as God's son come to redeem God's people
to offer Himself up as an atoning sacrifice
to reach all of God's people with this Gospel
His Task was further complicated by...
self-imposed human limitations (Phil 2:6-8)
a ministry of only 3.5 years
limited to 30 AD technology and communications
His Goal...
To establish the church, the body of Christ.
To reach all of God's elect in every nation.
His Method was simple...
First to select, disciple and train 12 ordinary men who will be able to evangelize, disciple and train others in the same task.
Then to turn them loose equipped with the Word and the Holy Spirit to disciple the nations.
We can see a pattern in the ministry of disciple training that Jesus carried on. He did not try to reach all the masses with the Gospel. Even if He had wanted to, the task would be too big. Rather He concentrated on a few selected ordinary men, who were "with Him" and to whom He gave both verbal instruction and a constant example - preparing them though their time with Him to do the same. A similar method of discipleship was practiced by the early churches in Acts.
The Gospels were written not only to teach us about Christ and His ministry, but also to serve as a pattern for us, guiding the church in its mission to reach the world. That is why they are much more than a biography of Jesus. While each has its own particular themes and emphases, together they give us a rather complete picture of the Master's plan that he has passed on to His church.
Jesus trained first 12 disciples, then a second generation of 70, using basically the same pattern. This pattern continued in the growing church in Acts. When you have grasped the stages of Jesus' plan for disciple building, then you can much better understand both the Gospel accounts and the unfolding of various events in the life of Jesus. And you will see the value of careful reading and study of the Gospels' accounts of the ministry of the Lord for you as you seek to be His disciple.
The Seven Step Disciple Training Program
Step one: Bring someone to repentance and faith - conversion: Mark 1:14,15; John 1:29ff
Before anyone can become a disciple of Jesus, they must first be born again. This salvation is entirely God's work through the atoning death of Jesus on the cross. Having been redeemed in Him, a man or woman responds in repentance and faith, embracing Christ as Savior and Lord.
The testimonies of Jesus' early disciples, recorded in John 1 show the faith they had in Him right after they became believers.
Step Two: Enlightenment and Guidance - Help them develop a personal relationship with Jesus.
A new Christian needs to get to know Him better. A believer needs to understand the significance of Christ's person, natures, and ministry. He also needs to understand God's will for us as disciples: learning, following, serving one another, and sharing our faith with others.
Only John records for us the 8 months of Jesus' beginning ministry with the first disciples. A period of time when they became better acquainted and learned much listening to Jesus teach and watching Him minister. (cf John 2:11)
Step Three: ministry training and encouragement. - Give them increasing opportunity to minister and serve.
Jesus was engaged at this time in His ministry in Capernaum, where His tremendous miracles of healing attracted large numbers of people, crowds greater than He could handle alone and and this increased public ministry required more workers. The disciples learned how to minister gradually through assistance in small tasks and by observation of the master at work.
Eventually Jesus issued a call to his disciples to become fishers of men: i.e. disciplers. This was more than a call to faith, it was a call to join Him in His mission to mankind.
Step Four: Leadership development and Christian character - prepare them to serve the body of Christ - the church
Jesus was ready to establish leadership for his church with the designation of "The Twelve" apostles. He spent several months training and selecting them out of a much larger group. (This method parallels the NT Church's method of designating leadership.) Jesus selected those who had already the commitment to follow and serve, and who had already shown their quality and potential to Him.
With the establishment of organization and leadership, they were structured as a team - there were no "bosses" - they were all submissive to the Lord and mutually to each other. Jesus rebuked any attempts at power plays. Jesus began sending them out into the outlying regions (in pairs on carefully defined missions under His supervision. (Mt 9:35-11:1; Mk 6:6-13, Luke 9:1-6).
At the same time, Jesus withdrew to less populous regions. During this time there was increased teaching about the kingdom of God, emphasizing the character of believers. (The Sermon on Mount and the Kingdom parables were given at this time.) He used any miracles to strengthen individual believers, no longer to attract crowds.
Step Five: Reevaluation and Separation - Helping disciples to evaluate their values and separate themselves from the world to follow Christ fully.
Many were following Jesus for temporal reasons: economic and health benefits, rather than for the "eternal" life He offered. They needed to be forced to choose between Christ and the World. Eternal values must take precedence over temporal concerns. Here the reality of their faith and repentance was tested repeatedly.
This testing in Step five came about in a series of crises: John the baptist was first imprisoned, and then beheaded (Mt 14:13). Jesus resisted the crowds wanting to making him King, because his mission was to bring the Bread of life. (John 6). The Feeding of 5,000 (Jn 6:1-14), and the storm at sea (16-21) [cf Psa 107:23-32, Psa 77:19; Mark 6:52] also became tests of the disciples' faith in Him. In the Bread of Life discourse, Jesus confronted those who followed him for temporal benefits.
This testing was necessary because the disciples needed to know who Jesus was if they were to remain with Him in the face of the growing opposition of the Pharisees and when the crowds deserted him. Jesus' bread of life discourse and other hard sayings caused many to depart. (Jn 6:60ff)
In the events on the Mount of transfiguration, we see Jesus' closest disciples (James, Peter and John) wrestling with their own values and faith, and this continued as as Jesus began to teach them about the cross. (cf Matt 16:16-20 and 22,23!! 17:4 ("Shelters" = "tabernacles" = "places of worship"?) and 6; 17-23!! Such confusion in their hearts and minds.)
Jesus' "Take up your cross" saying in Mark 8 comes in this context. His disciples must be ready to hold fast to Him whatever the cost.
Step six: Participation and delegation - development of the community of believers (Mt 17:22ff ,Mk 9:30ff , Luke 9:44ff)
There were again growing numbers of disciples (due in part to the ministry of the Twelve) but there were also growing tensions. It was about this time that a second generation of disciples were called in the choosing of the Seventy. (The exact details are unclear, but it appears that they too were going step by step through the stages of discipleship.)
These Jesus sent out to specific cities in advance of His coming in 35 teams of two. About this time we have a repetition of earlier teaching for this new group of disciples. Only Luke records this period of Jesus ministry which we call the Perean ministry. (Luke 11-13)
The Gospels record the giving of many guidelines for interpersonal relationships at this time. The body has to learn how to relate to one another and the world around them. (Mt 17,18, Mk 9:33-50; Luke 9:49-62)
how to relate to the Jews
how to relate to each other
how to relate to independent ministries
how to deal with false teachers
how to deal with those who stray from obedience
dealing with brothers who offend
how to relate to jealous believers
how to deal with new converts and disciples
problems: divorce, riches
Jesus' teaching about the Church is reaching completion. About this time Jesus made some important claims of deity in preparation for evangelism of the World.
Step Seven: An Exchanged life and a Worldwide challenge The events of the last week: Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, and later Pentacost, had an earthshaking impact on the disciples. First their hopes for a kingdom in this world were forever shattered even as for a moment they were scattered. However, reassured of God's grace, endowed with the power of the Holy Spirit, they were now ready to press forward with a worldwide vision and mission - the Great commission. The challenge was for them to continue the ministry of Christ by discipling as He discipled, generation after generation, undergoing to lead men and women through the same steps to maturity and ministry. They came to understand that Christ was present with them through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, and the church moved forward with the power given them to.
Those who would be Jesus' disciples are those who are willing to let go of themselves and let God work in and through them, pressing on in faith and obedience to all that Jesus has commanded: "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I will be with you always, to the very end of the age." Matt 28:18-20
http://www.eldrbarry.net/vbs/3/gali11.htm (http://www.eldrbarry.net/vbs/3/gali11.htm)
With the L.O.V.E.
Keep the faith.
I think some may find in the darkest, smallest corner the doubt, the fear of Michael being really dead.
The mean trick we do to ourselves in this is this:
as long as FEAR is reigning in our minds - and be it FEAR THAT MICHAEL DIED or be it our very PERSONAL FEAR OF DEATH - we will be blocked in our minds and NOT READY to work together with Michael on the HUGE job we'll have to do.
Let your fear go, let Michael go and see how easy life will be.
When there's nothing left to lose - that's when freedom, strength and power will set in and mountains can really be moved.
CHANGE starts with allowing to die, fade away and be left behind.
As long as we cling to Michael or any other icon, authority, master or whoever is controlling our life, as long as we do not allow to lose, Michael cannot come back to friends but will forever be imprisoned to be the one on stage having to look downwards because others cannot stop from looking up to him.
I think it's about time after all to allow the man to have a conversation one-on-one.
Keep the faith.
Silence has a cleaning and clearing aspect of purification. Use this time well, not for impatience but for good.
There's nothing wrong with resting still for a while and listening to ourselves and our heartbeat and breathing only.
There is no need to bother Jermaine and there's equally no need to bother TR or TS or whoever you have invited to be important for you in this set. There is all need to sit back, let it simmer and sizzle only when the target is clearly identified. And most of what this disappearance is targetting is located within ourselves, not in court, not in judges, physicians or drug dealers. It is us being questioned.
The answer is simple. MAKE THAT CHANGE STARTING WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR.
A good read:
Beyond fear: a Toltec guide to freedom and joy : the teachings of Don Miguel Ruiz
Fear is the source of all of the negative agreements we’ve made with life. It can alienate us from the joy that is our birthright. When we are able to look at our lives without fear or judgments, we realize that reality can be whatever we want it to be. Beyond Fear leads seekers of the Toltec way of freedom and joy on their spiritual journey into a state of empowerment.
http://richardeward.com/37/beyond-fear-a-toltec-guide-to-freedom-and-joy-the-teachings-of-don-miguel-ruiz/ (http://richardeward.com/37/beyond-fear-a-toltec-guide-to-freedom-and-joy-the-teachings-of-don-miguel-ruiz/)
This book is available in all bookstores for small money and may change your life.
bearhug Blessings to all.
BRAVO Grace!!! You speak the truth...Bless You and Thank you!! Sending you Blessings Love and Light <3
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Could someone with Twitter post the link to Jermaine's Twitter page again? I can't remember what page it is on. Thanks!
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5)
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Could someone with Twitter post the link to Jermaine's Twitter page again? I can't remember what page it is on. Thanks!
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5)
Thanks PureLove!
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Ok THIS IS GETTING WAY OUTTA HAND HERE
Lets think about this for a second, if you were in JJ's position and you KNEW that MJ faked his death and there was a sting operation in progress or everyone that did wrong to MJ is gonna get what they deservewouldn't you do your utmost to see it all go right?, think of all the betrayal MJ has gotten from everyone that was around him, everyone who wanted something for him or wanted to conspire against him...EVERYTHING a human being shouldn't have to deal with, MJ got. Would you not do EVERYTHING possible to help one of your family members? Would you not go above and beyond for them? The things JJ is saying is for the benefit of MJ and that is all he should care about. Not me and not you. We have to analyze our actions and say, is this gonna to help MJ or simply just hurt him. The family has gone through enough without them having to deal with us, even if we have GOOD INTENTIONS.
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Could someone with Twitter post the link to Jermaine's Twitter page again? I can't remember what page it is on. Thanks!
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5)
Thanks PureLove!
Why is this person badgering Jermaine? I am sure his blood pressure is going sky roof. Can someone put a stop to this person? Just accept the fact what he is saying, and make your own judgement. Is she in our forum? If she is please stop it, you are ruining alot for Michael. My God.. This is going too far. I think we should ignore it.. I bet you anything Jermaine is going to close his twitter account.
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Could someone with Twitter post the link to Jermaine's Twitter page again? I can't remember what page it is on. Thanks!
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5)
Thanks PureLove!
Why is this person badgering Jermaine? I am sure his blood pressure is going sky roof. Can someone put a stop to this person? Just accept the fact what he is saying, and make your own judgement. Is she in our forum? If she is please stop it, you are ruining alot for Michael. My God.. This is going too far. I think we should ignore it.. I bet you anything Jermaine is going to close his twitter account.
What person are you talking about?
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i just llllllloooooovvvvvvvvveeeeeeeee the fact that his is going to address it all in his book :roll:
mmmmoooooo
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i just llllllloooooovvvvvvvvveeeeeeeee the fact that his is going to address it all in his book :roll:
mmmmoooooo
Hey... at least we are all a little wiser about Thome now. Not related to Halima. I hope he explains how Thome came about and how Jermaine knows him and who introduced him to MJ.
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so he thinks hoaxers are being misled. by whom? i can understand that they can't talk about the case against murry, is murry misleading people? why can't they say who is misleading people. does he think we are the blind leading the blind? or does he think someone wants us to believe for profit or to hide murder?
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"There is no reason to suffer."
The only reason why you suffer
It is because what you demand.
If you look at your life you will find many excuses to suffer,
but no valid reason.
The same applies to happiness.
"Happiness is a choice, as was the suffering".
Don Miguel Ruiz
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Hey... at least we are all a little wiser about Thome now. Not related to Halima.
So now we believe him.
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Could someone with Twitter post the link to Jermaine's Twitter page again? I can't remember what page it is on. Thanks!
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5 (http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5)
Thanks PureLove!
Why is this person badgering Jermaine? I am sure his blood pressure is going sky roof. Can someone put a stop to this person? Just accept the fact what he is saying, and make your own judgement. Is she in our forum? If she is please stop it, you are ruining alot for Michael. My God.. This is going too far. I think we should ignore it.. I bet you anything Jermaine is going to close his twitter account.
What person are you talking about?
whom ever is asking jermaine in twitter if Michael is alive.. Isn't what we are talking about?
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i just llllllloooooovvvvvvvvveeeeeeeee the fact that his is going to address it all in his book :roll:
mmmmoooooo
Ah yes, the "truth" according to Jermaine...all for the low price of $16.98. :roll:
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:lol:
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"This is It...This is Not It....This is It...But it is Not the Final Curtain Call."
“Michael was not with us way before he arrived to the airport.”
OK, I will stop believing now.....NOT! suspicious// 8-) pale/ 8-)
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Hey... at least we are all a little wiser about Thome now. Not related to Halima.
So now we believe him.
nononooooooooooooooo (http://api.ning.com/files/TjlAXyYB30FSgtRcT9*gFKVU76pC-qh6Clh*gYjn3VqKB0D7gfx1nJW*tumk*6TnhgGmNsPwoJkGOV80W0Qx60b0XU9TlKel/duck_head_shaking_yaaa_lg_clr.gif)
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from @NastyGrouch to @jermjackson5 Maybe giving answers instead of saying we are crazy would help, instead of going on talk shows and doing a&e tell us who/why
From@jermjackson5 to @NastyGrouch never said anyone is 'crazy'. pls don't misquote me
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
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From @KaeTweets to @jermjackson5 hey jermaine! lol what you doing up so late? && why are you entertaining bs? lol
From @jermjackson5 to @KaeTweets not entertaining it. just trying to help fans who, in good faith but false hope, are being terribly misguided
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from jermjackson5 drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans
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mj_dance/
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Jermaine tweeted this;
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
2am! I hope my publishers are taking note ; ) Goodnight all
17 minutes ago
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@pattygags revisited an Australian memory recently. fond memories of our time there!
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@Jane_66 i've decided that books are harder work than albums ; )
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@poetryMJJ hello to fans in jakarta, indonesia. Much love to you all
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@Jane_66 scribbling and researching ; ) #nightowl
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@KaeTweets not entertaining it. just trying to help fans who, in good faith but false hope, are being terribly misguided
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@NastyGrouch never said anyone is 'crazy'. pls don't misquote me
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Also what fond memories of Australia did Jermaine mean...was it the ones when he said "Michael was not with us way before he arrived to the airport.”
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from @NastyGrouch to @jermjackson5 Maybe giving answers instead of saying we are crazy would help, instead of going on talk shows and doing a&e tell us who/why
From@jermjackson5 to @NastyGrouch never said anyone is 'crazy'. pls don't misquote me
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
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From @KaeTweets to @jermjackson5 hey jermaine! lol what you doing up so late? && why are you entertaining bs? lol
From @jermjackson5 to @KaeTweets not entertaining it. just trying to help fans who, in good faith but false hope, are being terribly misguided
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from jermjackson5 drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans
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mj_dance/
What does he mean by the Elvis thing, that people believed and Elvis never came back?
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from @NastyGrouch to @jermjackson5 Maybe giving answers instead of saying we are crazy would help, instead of going on talk shows and doing a&e tell us who/why
From@jermjackson5 to @NastyGrouch never said anyone is 'crazy'. pls don't misquote me
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
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From @KaeTweets to @jermjackson5 hey jermaine! lol what you doing up so late? && why are you entertaining bs? lol
From @jermjackson5 to @KaeTweets not entertaining it. just trying to help fans who, in good faith but false hope, are being terribly misguided
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from jermjackson5 drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans
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mj_dance/
What does he mean by the Elvis thing, that people believed and Elvis never came back?
yes I think that is what he meant.... that we will wait for ever and ever for nothing to happen...
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seriously what do people expect? for jermaine to expose michael over TWITTER? oh come on people. believers, if you've learned anything, you know michael does things on a scale we dont even entertain. if we think outside of the box, he's thinking 10 miles away from it.
do people really expect this:
@soandso yeah michael is alive. he's been hiding and we've been lying. oops! #jacksonsecret
like, come on. people need to back off jermaine. i feel so sorry for the guy.
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people need to back off jermaine. i feel so sorry for the guy.
I totally agree. This whole situation is just upsetting for everybody.We established that Jermaine is just trying to proctect Mike. Why not just leave it at that? This "twitter war" has been going on for days now. People need to stop the crazyness. There is no point to it and it distratcs us from other important things. And above all it makes some people very upset and lose their faith. Now come on people, pick yourself up, dust yourself off and leave this twitter war alone. We just need to ignore it.
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so he knows people thought this way about elvis but he said originally that he couldn't believe people would think this way, didn't he? couldn't he just have easily said it was sad that people had trouble letting go and that time would make it better for them or something and dropped it?
me thinks he doth protest too much.
that said this thing needs to die down a little . if some of these people want to see murray go to jail then they need to keep him out of site for a while. he was getting way to much exposure. however this thing goes he was out there way too much for a man in his position. it seems like since this all started with jermaine that everything has gone quiet everywhere else. jmo
elvis_/ michael-jackson/
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so he knows people thought this way about elvis but he said originally that he couldn't believe people would think this way, didn't he? couldn't he just have easily said it was sad that people had trouble letting go and that time would make it better for them or something and dropped it?
me thinks he doth protest too much.
that said this thing needs to die down a little . if some of these people want to see murray go to jail then they need to keep him out of site for a while. he was getting way to much exposure. however this thing goes he was out there way too much for a man in his position. it seems like since this all started with jermaine that everything has gone quiet everywhere else. jmo
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way back in 2009 he did say that this was the way that we coped with the passing of michael and that in time we would let him go. that this was our way of grief.
we however said michael is alive and jermaine is a d**k. Because it does'nt matter what anyone say we believe what we want anyway.
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so he knows people thought this way about elvis but he said originally that he couldn't believe people would think this way, didn't he? couldn't he just have easily said it was sad that people had trouble letting go and that time would make it better for them or something and dropped it?
me thinks he doth protest too much.
that said this thing needs to die down a little . if some of these people want to see murray go to jail then they need to keep him out of site for a while. he was getting way to much exposure. however this thing goes he was out there way too much for a man in his position. it seems like since this all started with jermaine that everything has gone quiet everywhere else. jmo
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way back in 2009 he did say that this was the way that we coped with the passing of michael and that in time we would let him go. that this was our way of grief.
so do you believe him now?
we however said michael is alive and jermaine is a d**k. Because it does'nt matter what anyone say we believe what we want anyway.
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I hate the phrase "you people" when it's used derogatively crash/ crash/ crash/
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I hate the phrase "you people" when it's used derogatively crash/ crash/ crash/
oh i know what you mean , i feel the same way :evil:
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I do not understand why Jermaine spends time every day discussing the same thing. He must be busy. A grown and busy man not have to paying attention to petty bickering and tantrums on twitter fan.
Jermaine, just ignore them. We have heard his message. Unless you're having fun with it ...
No. .. I'm not calling you a sadist or vacated!
But I do not understand why continue with it!
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well I did read what jermaine wrote,but do I believe him?
NO I dont,I knew someday a family member had to say something about all this,and i expected what jermaine is saying
now,no shock here,what else did we expect he would come right out and say yeah Michael is alive.
It could be that is all some kind of operation and till this is solved Michael has to stay underground,that when someone
would find out he was still alive that could be dangerous for him,and jermaine is probally protecting his brother,if you read between the lines,you can see that Jermain is saying this hoax is getting to much attention and has to die down a little,ok he accomplised the oppesite and mabye he dident see this war on twitter coming,I dont know what Jermain was thinking
I only know he made it worse.
But if he is protecting his brother then I can only have the upmost respect for him,because it cant be easy having to keep quite about it,so I am not tweeting to him I have send him one tweet to tell him that its good he is fighting for his brother
because I really believe that is what he is doing.
But I still believe Michael is around somewhere and nothing will shake my faith
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[theory] What if Jermaine doesn't know. What if Jermaine has simply been aware of the hoax community all this time and has simply played along just to get attention for himself... but in reality has no inside info at all. For example: would you tell the brother who publicly dissed you about your giant secret global project? If this brother (Jerm) is one to publicize family drama and use it for financial gain (Word to the Badd), he's probably not the best candidate for keeping massive global secrets for 2 years...
If so, this would indicate that Jermaine is as slimy and selfish and opportunistic as has been suggested in the past. That he, being aware of the hoax community but not the hoax, was deceptively cryptic all along (this is not it, airport, yes i believe he's somewhere Larry) just to get attention for himself. He's spent 2 years riding the coattails of what he thinks is a myth to suit his own interests. Now, he's being pressed about it and he's jumping ship.
He said MJ would never so cruelly hoax his fans. What an ASSHOLE to say that.[/theory]
:evil: my tone it is changing...
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so do you guys finish this book? he hasn't managed to come through with anything else so far has he? or did i miss it and the book is done? maybe the whole thing is to draw attention to the book. idk
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[theory] What if Jermaine doesn't know. What if Jermaine has simply been aware of the hoax community all this time and has simply played along just to get attention for himself... but in reality has no inside info at all. For example: would you tell the brother who publicly dissed you about your giant secret global project? If this brother (Jerm) is one to publicize family drama and use it for financial gain (Word to the Badd), he's probably not the best candidate for keeping massive global secrets for 2 years...
If so, this would indicate that Jermaine is as slimy and selfish and opportunistic as has been suggested in the past. That he, being aware of the hoax community but not the hoax, was deceptively cryptic all along (this is not it, airport, yes i believe he's somewhere Larry) just to get attention for himself. He's spent 2 years riding the coattails of what he thinks is a myth to suit his own interests. Now, he's being pressed about it and he's jumping ship.
He said MJ would never so cruelly hoax his fans. What an ASSHOLE to say that.[/theory]
:evil: my tone it is changing...
I hope not Bec,because if this was true,I would loose all respect I have left for him,but you made me think things over again,oh my head hurts from all this
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
What does he mean by the Elvis thing, that people believed and Elvis never came back?
yes I think that is what he meant.... that we will wait for ever and ever for nothing to happen...
Exactly! That Elvis tweet is very interesting and I got it the same way like you did. As I wrote before, I do believe that the return was cancelled. And that is the reason why Jermaine is making all these tweets. Michael doesn't want us to wait for him to come back no more. I do not believe that Jermaine is tweeting anti-hoax to protect his brother. They've been protecting him by saying he's dead from the beginning. He didn't need to talk anti-hoax to protect him. If that was the intention, he would have adressed the hoax in July 2009, not now.
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from @NastyGrouch to @jermjackson5 Maybe giving answers instead of saying we are crazy would help, instead of going on talk shows and doing a&e tell us who/why
From@jermjackson5 to @NastyGrouch never said anyone is 'crazy'. pls don't misquote me
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
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From @KaeTweets to @jermjackson5 hey jermaine! lol what you doing up so late? && why are you entertaining bs? lol
From @jermjackson5 to @KaeTweets not entertaining it. just trying to help fans who, in good faith but false hope, are being terribly misguided
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from jermjackson5 drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans
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mj_dance/
someone on the other forum picked up on the possible emphasis on had verses has . what do you all think?
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You don't cancel your life's work. Not after 25-30 years of planning. No, you don't just cancel like that. MJ just quit and give up? Throw in the towel? Take his ball and go home? That to me is total fantasy driven and unbelievable. Sorry Pure Love, I think you are wearing depression goggles to say that.
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To get all this way, to get this far... and then give up? NO WAY. Not the MJ I know.
And then to have your slimey Word to the Badd brother say it would be cruel as a method to cancel it all? Yeah no. Sorry. Not believable. It's more believable to say he's dead then that.
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You don't cancel your life's work. Not after 25-30 years of planning. No, you don't just cancel like that. MJ just quit and give up? Throw in the towel? Take his ball and go home? That to me is total fantasy driven and unbelievable. Sorry Pure Love, I think you are wearing depression goggles to say that.
I didn't say Michael cancelled it Bec. If we believe the FBI is involved which I do, they might have cancelled the return because of protection and safety issues. And thank you for your nice words about the depression googles. That was so nice of you! If being realistic means being in a depression, then yes I am. But you can not judge me like that. I'm tired of seeing people jumping on me just because I write what I think about Jermaine's tweets. But I do not give a f**k what you say or your prejudgements. I will keep on writing what I believe. Positive or negative.
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from @NastyGrouch to @jermjackson5 Maybe giving answers instead of saying we are crazy would help, instead of going on talk shows and doing a&e tell us who/why
From@jermjackson5 to @NastyGrouch never said anyone is 'crazy'. pls don't misquote me
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
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From @KaeTweets to @jermjackson5 hey jermaine! lol what you doing up so late? && why are you entertaining bs? lol
From @jermjackson5 to @KaeTweets not entertaining it. just trying to help fans who, in good faith but false hope, are being terribly misguided
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from jermjackson5 drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans
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mj_dance/
What does he mean by the Elvis thing, that people believed and Elvis never came back?
I think he is trying to say that although Elvis died, there are still a lot of people who believe that he is still alive, so Jermaine is trying to dispel rumors that Michael is still alive to eliminate false hopes among believers.
All of this is just making me think more and more that Michael isn't coming back. And with the family continuing to scream murder, it also makes me think that the hoax wasn't as planned as some believe, but rather a last minute effort to help Michael escape before being murdered by TPTB. Granted I think that Michael really did want to get away from the world, and he probably fantasized and thought about faking his death numerous times, but in the end, I think it may really be a case of 'watch out what you wish for, because it just may come true'. I believe very strongly in the power of thought and how continuous thoughts can ultimately lead to reality.
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Nonsense. That Jermaine would be in charge of canceling Michael's life's work on Twitter is complete nonsense. And then to go one further, that Jermaine would be in charge of canceling Michael's life's work that the FBI is also involved in ON TWITTER IS NONSENSE.
Read what you people are saying. It's crazy talk for serious.
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All of this is just making me think more and more that Michael isn't coming back. And with the family continuing to scream murder, it also makes me think that the hoax wasn't as planned as some believe, but rather a last minute effort
I am so thankful to God that someone else thinks that too. Finally bow/
It all makes sense if you see it like that.
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And the fake ambulance pic is? what? Just for fun?
And the recording of "painS"? Coincidence? MJ's own words?
What about Keep Watchin beat box in TII trailer at :18. Everyone's collective imagination?
Crazy talk. You people baffle me.
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Oh and you think he would cancel by telling Jermaine to say that to hoax us all would be CRUEL?
Come the fuck on.
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I think Jermaine is messing around. Or is annoyed. He’s harassed on a daily basis by some believers who are DEMANDING to know about Michael being alive, where he is, etc. Maybe he (or Michael) thinks that some believers feel high and mighty for knowing Michael is alive and have become cocky, arrogant or mean to anyone else who thinks differently. So that could be a reason Jermaine has been tweeting as he has.
Or Jermaine could’ve been told to knock the hoax hints off for a while, maybe even the FBI even said something. You never know, I imagine more people are becoming wise to the hoax everyday, including the people targeted in the sting. If that’s the case, it could be time to muzzle (at least for a bit) the strong hoax hinters who might actually be in on it.
He could also be following his hoax script. It could also be a test of who keeps the faith and who throws in the towel.
But really, all Jermaine has done is draw attention to the fact that a lot of people think Michael’s alive.
Hello to all the guests reading!
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I agree with bec, every word of it. I am not too positive or unrealistic, I am very realistic.
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I agree with bec, every word of it. I am not too positive or unrealistic, I am very realistic.
Of course you do. I'm being realistic to myself and you're being realistic to yourself Souza. But it is not good to jump on others for stating their opinion and judge them as being frustrated or being in a depression.
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Nonsense. That Jermaine would be in charge of canceling Michael's life's work on Twitter is complete nonsense. And then to go one further, that Jermaine would be in charge of canceling Michael's life's work that the FBI is also involved in ON TWITTER IS NONSENSE.
Read what you people are saying. It's crazy talk for serious.
Are you seriously reading what I write or just getting them the way you want? NOBODY here wrote that Jermaine is canceling Michael's life work. You're making things up and again you think that it is crazy what you created youself.
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I agree with bec, every word of it. I am not too positive or unrealistic, I am very realistic.
Of course you do. I'm being realistic to myself and you're being realistic to yourself Souza. But it is not good to jump on others for stating their opinion and judge them as being frustrated or being in a depression.
I am not going to discuss this again, I already told you my opinion and that was enough. You seem pretty frustrated, just look at your own comments.
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Crazy talk. You people baffle me.
We don't know much, almost nothing under surface. I'm sure you haven't privately investigated the case, because you had no legal permission for that. All we have/know are just assumptions cropped from what media has reported and what the family wanted to tell us, lies, or not.
It's too soon to tell who's talking crazy.
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I agree with bec, every word of it. I am not too positive or unrealistic, I am very realistic.
Of course you do. I'm being realistic to myself and you're being realistic to yourself Souza. But it is not good to jump on others for stating their opinion and judge them as being frustrated or being in a depression.
I am not going to discuss this again, I already told you my opinion and that was enough. You seem pretty frustrated, just look at your own comments.
Do you know when I get frustrated? I get frustrated when people tell me that I'm frustrated since I'm NOT! And I'm get frustrated when people prejudge me with their false assumptions.
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[theory] What if Jermaine doesn't know. What if Jermaine has simply been aware of the hoax community all this time and has simply played along just to get attention for himself... but in reality has no inside info at all. For example: would you tell the brother who publicly dissed you about your giant secret global project? If this brother (Jerm) is one to publicize family drama and use it for financial gain (Word to the Badd), he's probably not the best candidate for keeping massive global secrets for 2 years...
If so, this would indicate that Jermaine is as slimy and selfish and opportunistic as has been suggested in the past. That he, being aware of the hoax community but not the hoax, was deceptively cryptic all along (this is not it, airport, yes i believe he's somewhere Larry) just to get attention for himself. He's spent 2 years riding the coattails of what he thinks is a myth to suit his own interests. Now, he's being pressed about it and he's jumping ship.
He said MJ would never so cruelly hoax his fans. What an ASSHOLE to say that.[/theory]
:evil: my tone it is changing...
I like your theory, Bec. I do not know why people think that Michael gave 100% with your whole family. He has written some pieces about each of him brothers and I realized that their relationship was not as colorful as we think.
Michael's family is like any family. Must be jealousy and quarrels.
We don't know no one so well. You can not say that Jermaine was super close to Michael. I never heard Michael saying that, and you?
Do you remember what Jermaine wrote about Michael years ago? If I were your brother does not trust him to something so grand!
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So Jermaine's announcement was honest. And the airport slip -up just grief. We all figured out one way or another with the information media and family reported that Michael might be alive, but he couldn't. ok.
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I do believe the entire Jackson family knows about the hoax. Especially Jermaine. We forget about the slip-ups he made?
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Well, what if Michael kept Jermaine out of the hoax? I don't see how he could do this, but TS did say there's only a select few in on it.
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Of course Jermaine knows, he is just doing what he has to do, even if it might not always please the hoaxers. That is why he does it after 2 years, because hoaxers had 2 years to strengthen their faith.
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"from jermjackson5 drawing a line under this nonsense now. I'm happy to have helped the few who listened & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans". I have just been staring at this tweet for a few minutes. And I interpret it this way: The few who listened (Believers) & understood that I wouldn't lie to or mislead fans (LKL interviews, TII premiere, opening his mouth in general lately etc.) Look, if Michael returns, we will not be surprised if we already believe. Whether these "tweets" leave you distraught and broken, there will always be a little place in your mind that will have stored the information we all have obtained. JJ is only a small fraction of this whole hoax. What he says is not the GOSPEL! I would think TR would be closer to MJ in this hoax than JJ, honestly. Michael hasn't recorded an album with his brothers since the 70's so come on! I'm confident in my belief that he is doing this for business, personal and possible safety reasons. We don't know specifics just yet, but we will in due time. If I didn't believe this, I wouldn't type it.
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Of course Jermaine knows, he is just doing what he has to do, even if it might not always please the hoaxers. That is why he does it after 2 years, because hoaxers had 2 years to strengthen their faith.
Great point, Souza! If your faith is strong enough, it should be able to withstand even this. Jermaine's role will make sense when this is all over, and the real fun can begin when MJ returns! :D And, I personally, can't wait to see the look on people's face when he does :lol: :lol:
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I mean no harm, but some of you must have never argued with a family member. MJ AND JERMAINE ARE BROTHERS. THEY ARE NOT CAIN AND ABLE. And.......I think MJ is very disappointed to see people that claim they think he is alive infer that his own brother killed him. How ludicrous!
Jermaine was the one chosen to give the "fake death announcement", because he has a lot of nerve like MJ and Papa Joe. MJ says in the Geraldo interview that his best friends are his children, family and his brothers and sisters. Who are some trying to insist were actually his best friends and not the family members he said out of his own mouth were? Some of you seem to have a problem believing that MJ and Jermaine made up over something that happened over 16 years ago. It doesn't make any sense.
Jermaine is playing his role in this illusion just like everyone else has their role. If you want to believe that Jermaine did something untoward and sinister against his own brother, then maybe you all need to look in the mirror. Maybe you would do that to your own brother (plot brother's death and profit from it). Please! Like I mentioned before, Jermaine knows he ain't gonna make no money off of that book. MJ probably wrote it or is in the process of. LOL!
If you believe that Jermaine planned and carried out his brother's death, then what are you doing here? For MJ is alive and kicking up all kind of storms. Bless his heart. He has so much Potential. Expect something to come out about his Opera album with Pavarotti soon. The boy is just so gifted. They say he can reach 45 notes.
Jermaine and Michael are the closest brothers it has been reported. He and Marlon also were extremely close, and of course, because Randy is the only Baby brother MJ has, he will always have a special place in his heart for him because he can big brother him and boss him around all of the time. Lol
It's sad, but the ones that think up this old azz thing about Jermaine and use them for their justification for exclaiming that he means MJ no good, is just wasting their time - and have not connected the MAJOR dot. That is that Jermaine announced The King of Pop's (Not Michel Joe Jackson's) "death", because MJ asked him too. It's MJ's HOAX and NOT Jermaine's.
MJ loves all of his brothers and sisters very much. Like he said in the Geraldo interview. WE LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH. Why is it that some feel the desire to put their own spin on that statement? Don't tell me. It's because you seriously think that after all of these years - that in what 2008, 2009 - Jermaine decided to plot his brother's death, and Michael's own Mother and Father, along with all his other siblings and family members that he declared are his best friends - condoned what Jermaine did (as in the murdering of his own brother like Cain)? Please!
Look how close he is to Jermaine. Jermaine tickled me when he was whispering and gossiping about MJ/Diana to Tito. LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJWZOIRhY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJWZOIRhY) penguin/
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when Jermaine said MJ is dead I thought "no, he is alive!!"
when others tell me MJ is alive I think "no, he must be dead"
damn Michael you confused me so much.
there's no way we can fully believe Michael id dead, now or in the future.
We won't be able to believe Michael is dead in the coming years. We also won't be able to fully believe he's alive.
damn this dilema.....I just want to know the truth but it's not possible. crash/ crash/ crash/ crash/ crash/ :evil:
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I mean no harm, but some of you must have never argued with a family member. MJ AND JERMAINE ARE BROTHERS. THEY ARE NOT CAIN AND ABLE. And.......I think MJ is very dissappointed to see people that claim they think he is alive infer that his own brother killed him. How ludicrious!
Jermaine was the one chosen to give the "fake death announcement", because he has a lot of nerve like MJ and Papa Joe. MJ says in the Geraldo interview that his best friends are his children, family and his brothers and sisters. Who are some trying to insist were actually his best friends and not the family members he said out of his own mouth were? Some of you seem to have a problem believing that MJ and Jermaine made up over something that happened over 16 years ago. It doesn't make any sense.
Jermaine is playing his role in this illusion just like everyone else has their role. If you want to believe that Jermaine did something untoward and sinister against his own brother, then maybe you all need to look in the mirror. Maybe you would do that to your own brother (plot brother's death and profit from it). Please! Like I mentioned before, Jermaine knows he ain't gonna make no money off of that book. MJ probably wrote it or is in the process of. LOL!
If you believe that Jermaine planned and carried out his brother's death, then what are you doing here? For MJ is alive and kicking up all kind of storms. Bless his heart. He has so much Potential. Expect something to come out about his Opera album with Pavarotti soon. The boy is just so gifted. They say he can reach 45 notes.
Jermaine and Michael are the closest brothers it has been reported. He and Marlon also were extremely close, and of course, because Randy is the only Baby brother MJ has, he will always have a special place in his heart for him because he can big brother him and boss him around all of the time. Lol
It's sad, but the ones that think up this old azz thing about Jermaine and use them for their justification for exclaiming that he means MJ no good, is just wasting their time - and have not connected the MAJOR dot. That is that Jermaine announced The King of Pop's (Not Michel Joe Jackson's) "death", because MJ asked him too. It's MJ's HOAX and NOT Jermaine's.
MJ loves all of his brothers and sisters very much. Like he said in the Geraldo interview. WE LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH. Why is it that some feel the desire to put their own spin on that statement? Don't tell me. It's because you seriously think that after all of these years - that in what 2008, 2009 - Jermaine decided to plot his brother's death, and Michael's own Mother and fFther, along with all his other siblings and family members that he declared are his best friends - condoned what Jermaine did (as in the murdering of his own brother like Cain)? Please!
Look how close he is to Jermaine. Jermaine tickled me when he was whispering and gossiping about MJ/Diana to Tito. LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJWZOIRhY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJWZOIRhY)
You know what are theories?
Do not get so angry! There is no reason for it. Nobody here said that Jermaine killed Michael ... this is really absurd.
Do not know why be so aggressive ... calm yourself.
We're not sure about anything here. Unless you are a family member with highly privileged information.
I repeat: Bec postou a theory and I always thought possible.
And that was it!
Love and Peace for you! bearhug
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And the fake ambulance pic is? what? Just for fun?
And the recording of "painS"? Coincidence? MJ's own words?
What about Keep Watchin beat box in TII trailer at :18. Everyone's collective imagination?
Crazy talk. You people baffle me.
It's all in what we as individuals believe. I don't think the ambulance photo is fake, although it could have been staged and taken the day before. And for all we know, the "painS" recording was nothing more than an earlier take of the song that someone mistakenly used in the Memorial while rushing to put it together. Or it could have been intentional; none of us know. I actually don't see how that has anything to do with whether Michael had been planning the hoax for 20 years or 2 weeks, or if he's coming back or not, so I'm not quite following your logic on that particular point.
There are many things that none of us really know the truth about. But getting rude with people just because they don't share your exact opinion isn't going to bring anymore clarity or truth to anyone. Many of "you people" who need to "come the fuck on", myself included, are highly intelligent, level-headed folks, who treat others with respect even if we don't agree with everything they say.
I also didn't literally mean a last minute decision that Michael made right before he instructed Alvarez to make the 911 call. The hoax could have only been planned over a few weeks or 1-2 months time, if Michael truly felt that his life was at stake. Not only would that mean that there could have been subtle hints throughout TII, but it could also explain some of the sloppiness to it.
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I really can't believe my eyes. I am going to stay out of this discussion from now on, because if some want to think the hoax is over then fine. Think whatever you want but I want no disrespectful comments towards Jermaine anymore. If he slips up everyone loves him, if he tweets that the hoax is ridiculous, everyone hates him. Did Mike pull all this off just for your entertainment and to keep you pleased? No, this is bigger than that, way bigger and Jermaine has a role to play.
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I mean no harm, but some of you must have never argued with a family member. MJ AND JERMAINE ARE BROTHERS. THEY ARE NOT CAIN AND ABLE. And.......I think MJ is very disappointed to see people that claim they think he is alive infer that his own brother killed him. How ludicrous!
Jermaine was the one chosen to give the "fake death announcement", because he has a lot of nerve like MJ and Papa Joe. MJ says in the Geraldo interview that his best friends are his children, family and his brothers and sisters. Who are some trying to insist were actually his best friends and not the family members he said out of his own mouth were? Some of you seem to have a problem believing that MJ and Jermaine made up over something that happened over 16 years ago. It doesn't make any sense.
Jermaine is playing his role in this illusion just like everyone else has their role. If you want to believe that Jermaine did something untoward and sinister against his own brother, then maybe you all need to look in the mirror. Maybe you would do that to your own brother (plot brother's death and profit from it). Please! Like I mentioned before, Jermaine knows he ain't gonna make no money off of that book. MJ probably wrote it or is in the process of. LOL!
If you believe that Jermaine planned and carried out his brother's death, then what are you doing here? For MJ is alive and kicking up all kind of storms. Bless his heart. He has so much Potential. Expect something to come out about his Opera album with Pavarotti soon. The boy is just so gifted. They say he can reach 45 notes.
Jermaine and Michael are the closest brothers it has been reported. He and Marlon also were extremely close, and of course, because Randy is the only Baby brother MJ has, he will always have a special place in his heart for him because he can big brother him and boss him around all of the time. Lol
It's sad, but the ones that think up this old azz thing about Jermaine and use them for their justification for exclaiming that he means MJ no good, is just wasting their time - and have not connected the MAJOR dot. That is that Jermaine announced The King of Pop's (Not Michel Joe Jackson's) "death", because MJ asked him too. It's MJ's HOAX and NOT Jermaine's.
MJ loves all of his brothers and sisters very much. Like he said in the Geraldo interview. WE LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH. Why is it that some feel the desire to put their own spin on that statement? Don't tell me. It's because you seriously think that after all of these years - that in what 2008, 2009 - Jermaine decided to plot his brother's death, and Michael's own Mother and Father, along with all his other siblings and family members that he declared are his best friends - condoned what Jermaine did (as in the murdering of his own brother like Cain)? Please!
Look how close he is to Jermaine. Jermaine tickled me when he was whispering and gossiping about MJ/Diana to Tito. LOL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJWZOIRhY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1LJWZOIRhY) penguin/
I agree with you about how many people seem to have an opinion about Jermaine. Fact is, none of us know how his relationship towards Michael is. It hurts me to read some of the harsh comments about him. I'm sure Michael loves his whole family, Jermaine including. He always said Family first than his fans. So for those who don't like him,you don't have to, but please, don't be rude. respect/ We all know that's what Michael want. bearhug
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From @mjsheartofgold to @jermjackson5 #Elvis had believers and i never see his fans fighting or problems. Jermaine, dont you think #Michael deserve us beLIEvers?
From @jermjackson5 to @mjsheartofgold yes, Elvis had believers. I think that is my point
What does he mean by the Elvis thing, that people believed and Elvis never came back?
yes I think that is what he meant.... that we will wait for ever and ever for nothing to happen...
Exactly! That Elvis tweet is very interesting and I got it the same way like you did. As I wrote before, I do believe that the return was cancelled. And that is the reason why Jermaine is making all these tweets. Michael doesn't want us to wait for him to come back no more. I do not believe that Jermaine is tweeting anti-hoax to protect his brother. They've been protecting him by saying he's dead from the beginning. He didn't need to talk anti-hoax to protect him. If that was the intention, he would have adressed the hoax in July 2009, not now.
Thanks I am mjsheartofgold i didnt even realize jermaine has twitted me back. its funny i apoligized for any disrespect that me or beLIEvers has caused the family, he didnt tweet back on that. Jermaine has a book coming out this is all HIGH PROFILE PR.
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Well, what if Michael kept Jermaine out of the hoax? I don't see how he could do this, but TS did say there's only a select few in on it.
You believe TS - an anonymous internet character - over Michaels own brother??? typing/
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I think we need to give Jermaine a little space and let him say what needs to be said. Like I said before and like many of you have said, the hoax is NOT over just because someone in Michael's family says it's not so. I think we need to understand the significance of certain Tweets and things that people say. Of course they are not going to say anything about the hoax IF they are in the know.
So let's just try to relax a little, okay? Give people the benefit of the doubt if they say there is no hoax and he's dead........ if they are in the know......... well there is an obvious reason for their words.
Let's let it play out. Time is our friend. Remember that.
God bless you,
T.R.
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Time
Time out
Out
Outta time
Time
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Well, what if Michael kept Jermaine out of the hoax? I don't see how he could do this, but TS did say there's only a select few in on it.
You believe TS - an anonymous internet character - over Michaels own brother??? typing/
Um? I don't see where I said that I believe TS over Michaels brother. I simply said that TS said a few are in it, so maybe Jermaine doesn't know about the hoax. I didn't say I didn't believe Jermaine, even though I do not believe him. Why should I believe him saying Michael's dead when I've spent the past 2 years researching information about the hoax? If you believe Jermaine, then please tell me why you're here?
P.S. TS is not an "internet character", he's provided a LOT of very informative and helpful information about the hoax, most of it we might not have even figured out on our own. I'll bet that you haven't even read half of his posts, and until you've read all of them, you cannot sit here & make judgments.
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what if Michael kept Jermaine out of the hoax? I don't see how he could do this, but TS did say there's only a select few in on it.
TS never pretended to be Michael Jackson or an insider.
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Well, what if Michael kept Jermaine out of the hoax? I don't see how he could do this, but TS did say there's only a select few in on it.
You believe TS - an anonymous internet character - over Michaels own brother??? typing/
Um? I don't see where I said that I believe TS over Michaels brother. I simply said that TS said a few are in it, so maybe Jermaine doesn't know about the hoax. I didn't say I didn't believe Jermaine, even though I do not believe him. Why should I believe him saying Michael's dead when I've spent the past 2 years researching information about the hoax? If you believe Jermaine, then please tell me why you're here?
P.S. TS is not an "internet character", he's provided a LOT of very informative and helpful information about the hoax, most of it we might not have even figured out on our own. I'll bet that you haven't even read half of his posts, and until you've read all of them, you cannot sit here & make judgments.
I wasnt making judgements.. i was merely asking the question.
Why am i here? Ive said many times... im seeking the truth. Michael may be dead. All i know is that there are many mysteries and many people lying. I want to find out the truth of what happened to Michael. I may not like what i find out at the end of my journey, but i have to stay on the track of finding out the truth.. whatever that may be. That is why i am here. I do not have blind faith in one theory... i have blind faith in the truth coming into the light. xx
All i am trying to say is that (with me) - it sticks with me that Jermaine is MJs blood brother, he is family... and yet there are people out there hiding behind computer screens giving out "clues" that could all just be a big game to them and taking us away from the truth.
If TS is not a "anonymous internet character" - then who is he? What is his name? Where does he live? What does he do for a living? We do not know these answers because he chooses to remain anonymous. My feelings on this are that i dont give much weight or credibility to someone who hides behind an acronym and a computer screen.
Those are MY views. i am not judging YOU. We all have the right and ability to think for ourselves and come to our own decisions. Its what makes all us so unique and interesting. beerchug
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The delayed trial, Jermaine’s twitts and the striking hoaxrelated TMZ silence lately, could mean that everything (hoax) is put on hold intentionally. Maybe unforeseen circumstances delayed the hoax plan or the plan has been changed a bit or totally. Whether there will be a BAM, a return or not, obviously we won’t get informed about the plan by Jermaine, TR or whom so ever, because that will reveal the mystery too soon ;) . Anyway, there is a huge increase of attention to this forum, which could be a part of the plan. I’m not so sure there will be an increase of believers due to Jermaine’s latest twitts. Although it seems that some believers are about to have doubts and lose faith, I’m pretty sure that, when very interesting smashing clues appear in the media outlets, the “doubters” are back in their seats plus a rise of % of believers, which is part of the plan too of course. Just some thoughts.
L.O.V.E. & faith :)
‘Take the first step in faith. You don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step.’ - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Anyway, there is a huge increase of attention to this forum, which could be a part of the plan.
Jermaine wish to increase the attention to this forum? 100% not.
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Anyway, there is a huge increase of attention to this forum, which could be a part of the plan.
Jermaine wish to increase the attention to this forum? 100% not.
This opinion was based on Souza's post:
Re: Jermaine Jackson - @jermjackson5 (verified)
by ~Souza~ » Sun May 08, 2011 9:46 am
curls wrote:
Lovely One wrote:
YEP!! This is where I am going because if you notice, FIRST the news about Bin Laden comes out, THEN all of the
sudden we are being addressed. Its like a big "SHHHHH! BE QUIET" from Jermaine!
I would have never put the two together (Michael and Bin Laden) as the reason for the delays until now. It all makes
sense. Michael's security guys must have ordered this delay to protect MIchael.
Except that it hasn't had the desired effect - aren't MORE people talking, at least tweeting about the hoax now? If Jermaine or whoever wanted to hush us up, quietly shutting the site down would be a better bet. Souza has always said, one word from the family to her, and she'd close it down. Am I right Souza?
Yes you are right. I have said that from the start. Closing down this forum will decrease the hoax talk and all they have to do is contact me in a way that I can verify it's really from the Jacksons and ask me to close down the site if they think we are in any way disrespectful to Mike or them or a danger to the hoax. This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk. It hasn't been this busy in ages and we have more new members signing up. So if his goal was to draw attention to the hoax, he has succeeded.
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This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk.
I am sure everlastinglove, i just meant that i don't think Jermaine did it on purpose. This is only my opinion, i could be wrong.
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I've been quiet for some time now, meaning that I was not posting because I didn't feel I've got something important to add, although I'm here almost every single day to read and re-read, and visiting other blogs, sites, youtube and watching old taped tv-programms over and over again, because I felt maybe I was missing something important, something that I had overlooked. The postponing of the trial hit me, because now, again, we have to wait so much longer before we have the chance to learn more about new details, the hoax etc.
And then came the tweets of Jermaine. Although I still believe Michael is alive, first I believed and expected that eventually, Michael would come back to us. I don't know, maybe I had the dream that we, the believers, would get a special treatment from him, for all the love and support he was getting from us during this difficult time. Maybe it's selfish, but as a supporter for over 30 yearts, that would be a dream come true!! But first and foremost, this is about Michael and his safety, his plans and his family, I DO understand that! I only was talking about my DREAM!
This afternoon, I was watching the Schmuley tapes again and part 6 hit me hard!! Don't listen to Schmuley, listen to what Michael has said (listen to the first minute of the vid). Ánd think of it, he said this when he already had his first 2 children and BEFORE the horrible trial he would have to face in the years to come. What has this trial done to his spirit? Think of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag)
[youtube:kb2dg0ee]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrJ0GAbKag[/youtube:kb2dg0ee]
I'm devastated, because (especially after Jermaine's tweets), I really don't think he is coming back. He left us the clues to let us know that he is okay, but the TII-announcement and the movie, was this his final goodbye? I REALLY REALLY don't hope so, I want to see his face again, his HAPPY face, because he has accomplished whatever he was after.
Please Michael, forgive me my selfishness, I REALLY want you to be happy and okay, I just hope I will see you again in the future! Stay strong, I will try doing the same!
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Here is a quicker version of the interview - 22 seconds to be exact thanks to @ella303 on twitter
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k)
[youtube:3f7uapw1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k[/youtube:3f7uapw1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:3f7uapw1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:3f7uapw1]
BIG THANX FINFIN!!
SHOULD WE SEND THAT REMINDER TO JJ VIA TWITTER AND ASK EXPLANATION ON THAT B_I_G LUAGH??
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SHOULD WE SEND THAT REMINDER TO JJ VIA TWITTER AND ASK EXPLANATION ON THAT B_I_G LUAGH??
Oh God NO..... don't do that! :lol:
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Michael Jackson, The Final Days, Pt3
Here is a quicker version of the interview - 22 seconds to be exact thanks to @ella303 on twitter
Please take notice of Jermaine's strange reaction at the end of the video, laughing about an alleged conspiracy to kill Michael
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k)
[youtube:36a1osci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUPQ4g6OW4k[/youtube:36a1osci]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw)
[youtube:36a1osci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATRVjw[/youtube:36a1osci]
BIG THANX FINFIN!!
SHOULD WE SEND THAT REMINDER TO JJ VIA TWITTER AND ASK EXPLANATION ON THAT B_I_G LUAGH??
NO LEAVE IT ALONE DO NOT ANTAGONIZE HIM MORE.. You know deep down he has done lots of slip ups and also Michael is alive. Some people have done lots of damage by badgering him for answers. Please don't ask him this question. This would be putting oil on fire...
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NO LEAVE IT ALONE DO NOT ANTAGONIZE HIM MORE.. You know deep down he has done lots of slip ups and also Michael is alive. Some people have done lots of damage by badgering him for answers. Please don't ask him this question. This would be putting oil on fire...
I agree 100%.
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I really can't believe my eyes. I am going to stay out of this discussion from now on, because if some want to think the hoax is over then fine. Think whatever you want but I want no disrespectful comments towards Jermaine anymore. If he slips up everyone loves him, if he tweets that the hoax is ridiculous, everyone hates him. Did Mike pull all this off just for your entertainment and to keep you pleased? No, this is bigger than that, way bigger and Jermaine has a role to play.
Not only A role, but THE very first designated (BY MJ) spokesman FOR the "death", from the get go. Jermaine says it all the time: he's got MJ's back. He said it the very next day on LKL. JJ is MJ's trusted wingman. This is WAY cool and I don't understand all the opposition to him, either.
Think about this: remember when we were wondering why our little group didn't have BILLIONS of beLIEvers, here? Does anybody think MJ didn't have "somethin' up his sleeve" to rectify this, and drive millions over here, at the right time, to reap the benefits of all the facts and explanations we have gathered for when the world's unbeLIEving, "Enquiring minds" will want to know??? <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> He had to have planned all this. Ha Ha, he GOT us again.
He said it could be scary. Surprise. We assume his next chess move won't rattle US, because we've "learned so much". ASSUME NOTHING! ha ha ha.
BeLIEve instead. <!-- smj_dance/ -->mj_dance/<!-- smj_dance/ -->
Jermaine is the spokesperson for the family, etc., because MJ TRUSTS him before a crowd, and press!! JJ speaks very calmly, very deliberately (including slip-ups!!), very diplomatically and just exactly as MJ knew he would, be able to field all kinds of ignorant and emotionally charged questions, as the controversy plays out!! The best idea I've heard lately (THANK you, TimesRemembered777 <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> ) was something like, PASS THE POPCORN!! (It is winding up again, the next reel has started.)
<!-- sparty/ -->party/<!-- sparty/ -->
I don't know if TimesRemembered777 is in the know or not, but I like his LACK of hysteria better than the frenzy here resulting from a little PURPOSEFUL agitation, which I wonder, now if it wasn't all staged at first, before y'all jumped in it, too.
Would YOU take all kinds of verbal strong-arming, if it wasn't faked for some larger purpose?? Especially if you are on Twitter out of the goodness of your heart? I read here a couple of people wondering why JJ doesn't just shut it down. Hmmm. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> Why, indeed. Perhaps he eats controversy instead of wheaties. He says he's Jermaine... Could be MJ disguised (Usernamed) as JJ. <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: -->
<!-- sbow/ -->bow/<!-- sbow/ --> heh heh heh. <!-- sbounce/ -->bounce/<!-- sbounce/ --> <!-- s:lol: -->:lol:<!-- s:lol: --> We do not know.
When people who have NEVER questioned MJ's death before, come here finally, it would be nicer to offer them some popcorn, eh? instead of sharing uncharitable and disloyal sentiments towards MJ's beloved Wingman. Just my opinion. Company is coming <!-- s:!: -->:!:<!-- s:!: --> <!-- s:mrgreen: -->:mrgreen:<!-- s:mrgreen: -->
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but I like his LACK of hysteria better than the frenzy here
if you're happy... that's all that matters
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This public tweet session is only increasing the hoax talk.
I am sure everlastinglove, i just meant that i don't think Jermaine did it on purpose. This is only my opinion, i could be wrong.
Yes, or you could be right heartphantom, we were just opinioning (I'm not sure if this word exists, sounds strange typing/ :roll: )
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i know. some time soon i think jermaine will stop the hoax tweets , he has nothing left to say.
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I really can't believe my eyes. I am going to stay out of this discussion from now on, because if some want to think the hoax is over then fine. Think whatever you want but I want no disrespectful comments towards Jermaine anymore. If he slips up everyone loves him, if he tweets that the hoax is ridiculous, everyone hates him. Did Mike pull all this off just for your entertainment and to keep you pleased? No, this is bigger than that, way bigger and Jermaine has a role to play.
Thank you Souza for saying this,I thought the same thing,my english is not so good in writing so I am glad you said it :)
I agree with everything you said and the hoax is not over,not for me not by a long shot
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Thanks Tink and Peace.
Also I think Jermaine has to be in it, all the clues he has given so far push more towards that he knows about the hoax then that of, he doesn't. When it comes to helping family out, that's always the time when families band together. I am sure what has ever happened in the past with Jermaine and Michael doesn't matter, if he can forgive Latoya for saying those things in the press then I think he can put whatever Jermaine said, behind him.
I am sure Jermaine reads what's on here (like this thread) and I am sure MJ does too. As soon as Jermaine's made comments about the hoax some of us became more confused or felt this whole hoax was screwed up...with what if's and we took it out on each other and Jermaine...now if they are looking at this and is seeing what's going on, why aren't they stopping, what are these comments supposed to be doing? I guess that's what we have to ask ourselves. What is the motive behind it, is it to get more believers or more attention on the hoax, or something else?
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maybe if jerm really wants it all to stop he should just explain hat man and blonde lady. :lol: mj_dance/
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
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Something I read that makes me want to vent: I'm tired of everyone saying that Michael wouldn't hoax his own 'death' because he would never do that to his children. So, then you believe that he would refuse help for a drug addiction? Wouldn't that be harmful to his children as well?! People have their own opinion about Jermaine's tweets, but the non-believers are so disrespectful toward us, and a lot of them could care less about Mike before 6/25/09. I know its wrong, but sometimes I wish Paris would make a YT video or a statement saying that her father is NOT a drug addict! But, of course, that would be the same as JJ saying he is alive so it would never happen.
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
But if we know, the family would too, they are his family and they all went to the hospital to see him, so wouldn't they know?
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
But if we know, the family would too, they are his family and they all went to the hospital to see him, so wouldn't they know?
you know this is gonna sound weird but could they know and yet not know? could he have warned them that something is about to happen that is going to look like one thing but it's not? didn't someone say he asked paris not to be mad at him if he wasn't her for father's day? maybe they don't have details but they know he is not dead just from the same confusion as us , only they know they need to go along with it until it plays out. does that sound too delusional :?
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
But if we know, the family would too, they are his family and they all went to the hospital to see him, so wouldn't they know?
We don't know, but you are very right about them being in the hospital. Who knows what they saw there and what had been happening there. Maybe they weren't being showed his "body". I mean it was a hoax for them also.
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@Do...
Thanks for bringing tears to my eyes at my desk here today at work. Not your fault. Every time I hear those words spoken through Michael's own voice, I just break down and cry. Not because I think that he took his life or even that I believe he died on 6/25, but because he seemed so broken and sad and didn't understand how loved he was, clearly heard in his voice.
Most people hate Schumley for writing that book, I am of a different opinion. I appreciate it. Could have done without the Rabi's personal commentary; but hearing or rather reading Michael's words, listening to how he felt, his thoughts and dreams, his aspirations and even his fears was worth trying to muddle through all the insignificant other parts. It saddened me to hear how he felt about getting older physically. One day, if he lived long enough, it was going to happen. Or was it? Yes it was, but not in front of the world. Not for the whole world to see. He wasn't going to allow that.
One thing that really stood out in those tapes is that Michael said that when he died he wanted to be buried with, by the children where he would feel safe. In hearing just that one little part, I felt surely were he to really pass away, his family would honor his wishes and bury him in a place where he wanted to be. Not some sterile, yet beautiful, guarded place where no one would be able to bring him flowers on a rainy day. I just don't believe he's gone.
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One thing that really stood out in those tapes is that Michael said that when he died he wanted to be buried with, by the children where he would feel safe. In hearing just that one little part, I felt surely were he to really pass away, his family would honor his wishes and bury him in a place where he wanted to be. Not some sterile, yet beautiful, guarded place where no one would be able to bring him flowers on a rainy day. I just don't believe he's gone.
Thank you for writing this! I know what you mean, I don't think Michael would be buried somewhere so private and secluded from the world. He has been forced to live his entire life that way by the public and mass media, I don't believe it would be his wish to do so after he passes. He knows how much it means to the fans to be close to him. And I do believe he will be buried amongst children who have sadly had their lives ended too soon, it breaks my heart when he says its the only place he would feel safe :(.
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
But if we know, the family would too, they are his family and they all went to the hospital to see him, so wouldn't they know?
We don't know, but you are very right about them being in the hospital. Who knows what they saw there and what had been happening there. Maybe they weren't being showed his "body". I mean it was a hoax for them also.
didn't latoya say that the kids were all hystarical and then they saw his body and became very calm or something like that?
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
But if we know, the family would too, they are his family and they all went to the hospital to see him, so wouldn't they know?
We don't know, but you are very right about them being in the hospital. Who knows what they saw there and what had been happening there. Maybe they weren't being showed his "body". I mean it was a hoax for them also.
didn't latoya say that the kids were all hystarical and then they saw his body and became very calm or something like that?
Yes, Latoya did say something along those lines. I believe she even said that the kids insisted on seeing him, and that Paris even commented on how red his chest was from the paramedics working on him.
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I sincerely doubt that Paris's only thought would have been the color of his chest upon seeing him laying dead on a gurney. I can't even fathom children being allowed to see him period in that state. When my mom died, I had to leave my child in the waiting room with other relatives because he was not allowed to go in because of his age.
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SHOULD WE SEND THAT REMINDER TO JJ VIA TWITTER AND ASK EXPLANATION ON THAT B_I_G LUAGH??
NO LEAVE IT ALONE DO NOT ANTAGONIZE HIM MORE.. You know deep down he has done lots of slip ups and also Michael is alive. Some people have done lots of damage by badgering him for answers. Please don't ask him this question. This would be putting oil on fire...
PLS DO NOT ASK ANYTHING HOAX RELATED TO JERMAINE AGAIN! Some believers pushed him so hard and we saw how it ended. So for our own good, pls do not ask him anything!
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I doubt Jermaine would know anything. I also doubt about the whole family, even Mr Katherine and the children.
Of course, the thought of JJ, playing his role along with the rest of the family came into my head not once but his latest tweets made me reconsider my thoughts. Of course Michael has supporters and people that are in the know, but I think they are some influential, powerful people that could help him to pull it off.
I could be wrong, but the family in spite of all the slip-ups ( that could perfectly be not the slip-ups but the fruits of vivd imagination) don't act like they know anything. Maybe it was a goal.. I mean, if they knew, they couldn't be playing well.
But if we know, the family would too, they are his family and they all went to the hospital to see him, so wouldn't they know?
We don't know, but you are very right about them being in the hospital. Who knows what they saw there and what had been happening there. Maybe they weren't being showed his "body". I mean it was a hoax for them also.
didn't latoya say that the kids were all hystarical and then they saw his body and became very calm or something like that?
Yes, you are right she did say that. And I also remember her saying a long time ago that Michael was guilty in that child molestation bs, and how she denied it later, pleading an evil husband and her being under the influence of drugs.That's why I believe La Toya can say things that have nothing to do with reality only for increasing the effect, so to speak.
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I sincerely doubt that Paris's only thought would have been the color of his chest upon seeing him laying dead on a gurney. I can't even fathom children being allowed to see him period in that state.
I agree with you completely.
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@suspiciousmind......I remember that interview that LaToya did but I haven't been able to find it. I remember her saying the kids cried and cried and cried in the room with his body and LaToya said that Paris said, "Take me with you, Daddy." Then LaToya said, "After that, they didn't shed one more tear. That was closure for them." That always stuck out to me as odd.
I can't imagine the kids only crying at that point and never again. (especially at the funeral.) If anyone knows where that video is and can link it, I would be very appreciative. I have been trying to find that sucker for awhile and just can't seem to find it. rr/
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@suspiciousmind......I remember that interview that LaToya did but I haven't been able to find it. I remember her saying the kids cried and cried and cried in the room with his body and LaToya said that Paris said, "Take me with you, Daddy." Then LaToya said, "After that, they didn't shed one more tear. That was closure for them." That always stuck out to me as odd.
I can't imagine the kids only crying at that point and never again. (especially at the funeral.) If anyone knows where that video is and can link it, I would be very appreciative. I have been trying to find that sucker for awhile and just can't seem to find it. rr/
I'm going to find it for you, I have posted the (whole) interview a little while back....
Be back soon!
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Here you go Anewfan,
It's quite long, but really worth to listen. The statement about the children is in part 3. It's worth to listen to the whole interview. Latoya contradicts herself regularly and when she is telling about how they broke the news to Michael's children in the hospital, she really gets lost in her story, and says that is because she is so nervous and shaky. It seemed like she couldn't get the story straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I)
[youtube:19sw8ms6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I[/youtube:19sw8ms6]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyh ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyhQ8A&feature=related)
[youtube:19sw8ms6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyhQ8A&feature=related[/youtube:19sw8ms6]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYc ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYcFz8&feature=related)
[youtube:19sw8ms6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYcFz8&feature=related[/youtube:19sw8ms6]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24suw&feature=related)
[youtube:19sw8ms6]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24suw&feature=related[/youtube:19sw8ms6]
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@Do...
Thanks for bringing tears to my eyes at my desk here today at work. Not your fault. Every time I hear those words spoken through Michael's own voice, I just break down and cry. Not because I think that he took his life or even that I believe he died on 6/25, but because he seemed so broken and sad and didn't understand how loved he was, clearly heard in his voice.
Most people hate Schumley for writing that book, I am of a different opinion. I appreciate it. Could have done without the Rabi's personal commentary; but hearing or rather reading Michael's words, listening to how he felt, his thoughts and dreams, his aspirations and even his fears was worth trying to muddle through all the insignificant other parts. It saddened me to hear how he felt about getting older physically. One day, if he lived long enough, it was going to happen. Or was it? Yes it was, but not in front of the world. Not for the whole world to see. He wasn't going to allow that.
One thing that really stood out in those tapes is that Michael said that when he died he wanted to be buried with, by the children where he would feel safe. In hearing just that one little part, I felt surely were he to really pass away, his family would honor his wishes and bury him in a place where he wanted to be. Not some sterile, yet beautiful, guarded place where no one would be able to bring him flowers on a rainy day. I just don't believe he's gone.
Oh I'm so sorry Hesouttamylife, I didn't want to make you cry. But I agree with you, it hurts so bad to hear Michael talking like this. What pain did he felt in his life. It's so so sad. For me these words from Michael made me think for the first time that he isn't coming back to us. Fortunately, I put up this post in another thread and now am I little more positive again (thanks to a few dear members here!) What about the answer of Michael to the question of Schmuley:
'You don't want to die young?'
Michael: 'That's an interesting question you're asking me...You sure you want the answer?'
It could be positive or negative. But for now, I want to be on the positive side again.
And you're right about his burial place. This sure isn't the place were Michael wanted to be buried. Let's keep hope!
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@Do........Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! party/
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Here you go Anewfan,
It's quite long, but really worth to listen. The statement about the children is in part 3. It's worth to listen to the whole interview. Latoya contradicts herself regularly and when she is telling about how they broke the news to Michael's children in the hospital, she really gets lost in her story, and says that is because she is so nervous and shaky. It seemed like she couldn't get the story straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I)
[youtube:2kk6z1m5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I[/youtube:2kk6z1m5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyh ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyhQ8A&feature=related)
[youtube:2kk6z1m5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyhQ8A&feature=related[/youtube:2kk6z1m5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYc ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYcFz8&feature=related)
[youtube:2kk6z1m5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYcFz8&feature=related[/youtube:2kk6z1m5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24suw&feature=related)
[youtube:2kk6z1m5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24suw&feature=related[/youtube:2kk6z1m5]
view later . thanks Do :D
and yes latoya does seem to get lost in her ramblins quite often. but i wonder if it is just to prove that most people aren't paying attention. ;)
poor jermaine :( this thread is starting to become not about him . :lol: hope the little green monster doesn't get him ;)
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PLS DO NOT ASK ANYTHING HOAX RELATED TO JERMAINE AGAIN! Some believers pushed him so hard and we saw how it ended. So for our own good, pls do not ask him anything
Totally agree 110%.
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Jermaine can't do anything to us. We know too much. He can say anything he wants, he can't undo what's already done. Jermaine, you don't scare me and your words have no power over us.
Hoax on.
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Jermaine can't do anything to us. We know too much. He can say anything he wants, he can't undo what's already done. Jermaine, you don't scare me and your words have no power over us.
Hoax on.
He sure can't! Especially when he talks as if he doesn't have a clue about Teddy's video's in which he declares he believes Michael is alive.
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Jermaine latest Tweet:
@PianoGames proud to say yes. Now, is @TeddyRiley1's account real? that would be a smarter question ; ) #getverified
In reply to :arrow: @PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 under non-direct instruction from a fellow and well-known believer, I must ask...is your hair real?...that's the easiest yet!
https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/sta ... 1170173952 (https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/69979921170173952)
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Jermaine latest Tweet:
@PianoGames proud to say yes. Now, is @TeddyRiley1's account real? that would be a smarter question ; ) #getverified
In reply to :arrow: @PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 under non-direct instruction from a fellow and well-known believer, I must ask...is your hair real?...that's the easiest yet!
https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/sta ... 1170173952 (https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/69979921170173952)
So Jermaine knows that TR said that about his hair. :lol:
That just proves that Jermaine is watching what's going on.
By the way, how did you like the Finale of SMALLVILLE?
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jermjackson5
Research has made me read Randy Taraborrelli. I am speechless. He's been pulling words out of his ass with his dialogue & scenes
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@oldieskid he writes scenes with dialogue like he was there, when he wasn't. I'm running out of yellow highlighter!
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@DebbieforMJ still speechless
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@KarlaJorge I'll ask. Also, I don't know name of security firm used. never went there.
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@MJMannou7 who's next? anyone who says anything untrue
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MJMannou7 Manuela
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@jermjackson5 First believers, than Teddy Riley, yet Tarraborelli...who's next Jermaine?
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@MJJLady_ i know people like to insist I have, but not once. not even when he visited the set of On Golden Pond #prideonly
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@AutumnSoPretty one of mine, too
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@KarlaJorge I'd suggest LAPD would know, but they probably erased that, too
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IN REPLY TO;
KarlaJorge JUSTICE SEEKER
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@jermjackson5 The security firm was interviewed right after June 25 th we lost all info, now that we deem it important it's gone.
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jermjackson5
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@jermainejaxn birthday wishes to you, sharing a birthday with my wonderful sister @JanetJackson.
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@MJJLady_ i think folk confuse healthy competitiveness for jealousy
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@planet12law No jealousy withThe Osmonds. media needs to invent jealousy, then & now
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@planet12law history of music groups always has media speculating re jealousy. mythology requires 'a hero' & 'a villain' & 'a war'
1 hour ago
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Nice chatting with you all. Bed beckons. Goodnight everyone
1 hour ago
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funny that he actually answered my question to this subject but deleted the answer again after 5 minutes. Wonder why...
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funny that he actually answered my question to this subject but deleted the answer again after 5 minutes. Wonder why...
What answer?
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well, nothing major actually. I just told him that I've read the book by Randy Taraborrelli and thought it was rather good. and I asked him if it wasn't accurate what Taraborrelli wrote.
He answered back that Taraborrelli indeed is a great writer but what he says in the book is all BS and that is why he defends his brother.
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well, nothing major actually. I just told him that I've read the book by Randy Taraborrelli and thought it was rather good. and I asked him if it wasn't accurate what Taraborrelli wrote.
He answered back that Taraborrelli indeed is a great writer but what he says in the book is all BS and that is why he defends his brother.
his tweet is till there "
jermjackson5 Research has made me read Randy Taraborrelli. I am speechless. He's been pulling words out of his ass with his dialogue & scenes "
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well, nothing major actually. I just told him that I've read the book by Randy Taraborrelli and thought it was rather good. and I asked him if it wasn't accurate what Taraborrelli wrote.
He answered back that Taraborrelli indeed is a great writer but what he says in the book is all BS and that is why he defends his brother.
Well I guess he tells us what he really thinks of him...so did MJ have a falling out with him?
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Tink.I.Am, this whas he original post. I replied to exactly this tweet. He tweeted me back but erased the answer.
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When is Jermaine's book coming out?
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here is an article with the original press release:
Jermaine Jackson Gets Book Deal for Long-Rumored Memoir
A long-rumored memoir by Michael Jackson’s brother Jermaine is finally coming out.
Touchstone announced Wednesday that Jermaine Jackson’s “You are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother’s Eye” will be released this fall. Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, promises a “faithful and loving portrait,” but one with “no subject off limits.”
Jackson spoke in 2003 of wanting to write a memoir and reports surfaced again after Michael’s death, in 2009.
Sisters Janet Jackson and La Toya Jackson also have books out this year.
Here’s the official press release,
Touchstone, an imprint of Simon & Schuster, has acquired Jermaine Jackson’s memoir You Are Not Alone: Michael: Through a Brother’s Eyes, the most authoritative account from inside the Jackson music dynasty illuminating the private man, the son, the father, and the brother. Stacy Creamer, Vice President and Publisher of Touchstone, acquired North America, audio, and first serial rights from Gordon Wise at Curtis Brown London. You Are Not Alone will be published in fall 2011. The book will be published simultaneously in the UK by HarperCollins.
In this story of brotherhood, Jermaine writes a faithful and loving portrait, giving fans a close look at the complex heart, mind, and soul of the King of Pop. It is a frank but sophisticated examination of the human, not the legend, with revealing insights and no subject off limits. It is written as a full and final understanding of who he was, why he was, and what shaped Michael Jackson.
Jermaine was Michael’s true confidante who spoke up for him in life and now speaks up for his memory in death. You Are Not Alone invites the reader into the rarefied world of Michael’s life from childhood to stardom; from his homes in Gary, Indiana to Neverland, California; from the stage to the courts; from Jackson 5 and Motown to a global solo career and Sony. The book examines his true relationships with Joseph and Katherine, and the different characters that surrounded him. We witness his private anguish during the infamous 2005 child molestation trial when Jermaine stood by his brother through his darkest hour. We re-live the final weeks of his life, the politics, the AEG rehearsals, the police investigation, and the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray. From start to finish, this book is an expert witness to history from the inside. The end result is Michael Jackson as never seen before: raw, human, and desperate to be understood. You Are Not Alone will, without doubt, alter the way the world views him, humanizing someone whose own fame was dehumanizing.
“This book commemorates Michael’s life,” said Jermaine. “The forthcoming trial of Dr. Murray surrounds Michael’s death, but none of us wish for those proceedings to stand as the final word on how he is remembered. We want the world to remember his truth, his legacy, and some wonderful memories we shared as brothers, as a family. We don’t want Michael’s life to be an eternal mystery. I have read so much about what people claim to know about Michael, and I’ve heard countless people talk as if they knew him better than his own family. This book’s blood is thicker and truer than water. It is about what really happened and who he really was, representing the things he never got the chance to say, based on what we know, based on what he shared.”
“As a lifelong fan of Michael Jackson and of Jermaine Jackson I am thrilled to be publishing You Are Not Alone,” commented Creamer. “Jermaine’s book will offer a unique view of the real Michael Jackson, a perspective only a very few people could possibly have. As his brother and close confidante since they were children, Jermaine can explain Michael in a way that, in life, Michael was never able to articulate himself.”
Read more: http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/2011/03/16/ ... z1MVd0DTx1 (http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/2011/03/16/jermaine-jackson-gets-book-deal-for-long-rumored-memoir/#ixzz1MVd0DTx1)
so, I guess the book will be released sometime in the fall of 2011.
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funny how Jermaine is only now reading Taraborelli.
I was reading that book 2 years ago.
1991- the book was first published, then 2005- the book was revised and finally 2009 - re-published.
Jermaine is reading it only NOW?
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yeah, same here Gina. I was reading it a long time ago.
Maybe Jermaine wasn't interested in it. But he said he's doing some research. I suppose for his book?
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Thanks Steph
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You're welcome :)
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Jermaine latest Tweet:
@PianoGames proud to say yes. Now, is @TeddyRiley1's account real? that would be a smarter question ; ) #getverified
In reply to :arrow: @PianoGames ●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 under non-direct instruction from a fellow and well-known believer, I must ask...is your hair real?...that's the easiest yet!
https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/sta ... 1170173952 (https://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/69979921170173952)
So Jermaine knows that TR said that about his hair. :lol:
That just proves that Jermaine is watching what's going on.
That is what i thought straight away... Jermaine is secretly following Teddy Riley and he knows exactly what is being said. He knew Teddy had made a joke about his hair.
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But did anyone believe that Jermaine had no idea about Teddy's tweets?
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So what is Jermaine's deal with Teddy? Or Teddy's with Michael? What is this?:
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TeddyRiley1 TEDDY RILEY
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@horabora ASK HIM ABOUT HIS HAIR DO...IS THAT REAL? (my note: Jermaine's hair)
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PianoGames●▲Tom Pickering▲●
by _Crescendo_
@jermjackson5 under non-direct instruction from a fellow and well-known believer, I must ask...is your hair real?...that's the easiest yet
I am shocked. Teddy's attitude is twitter believers alike.
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So what is Jermaine's deal with Teddy? Or Teddy's with Michael? What is this?:
TeddyRiley1 TEDDY RILEY
@
@horabora ASK HIM ABOUT HIS HAIR DO...IS THAT REAL? (my note: Jermaine's hair)
PianoGames●▲Tom Pickering▲●
@jermjackson5 under non-direct instruction from a fellow and well-known believer, I must ask...is your hair real?...that's the easiest yet
I am shocked. Teddy's attitude is twitter believers alike.
You surely know the history between these two?????
Teddy was a producer on MJs "Dangerous" album.
When Mj released "Black or White" from that album, Jermaines "Word to the Badd" was leaked out at the same time. Conveniently leaked out by Jermaine himself.
Teddy Riley was quoted at the time as saying (about Jermaine) - "This is just a desperate attempt at fame and attention".
Bad blood between these two for years. Seems it carries on today.
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I don't know everything, i didn't know that, thak you for letting me know. But what is that in the hoax scene? Isn't Michael their common friend? How come Jermaine has one plan (put hoax rumours to end) and Teddy has another (supporting the hoax). No matter their relationship, the fact that Teddy gossips in corner with believers and laughing at him while Jermaine is trying to calm this hoax down shows that one of them knows Michael's plan and the other one is the intruder.
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I don't trust Jermanine. What kind of a brother he is to release that song Word to the bad?
They were jealous with Michael, because of his succes, because of the money that came with it and maybe because Michael received so much love from all over the world.
Yet all of them stood by him in 2005.
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Didn't Jermaine used the Aaron-Moses comparison while talking about him and Michael? This old song is coming up time and time again...but if we focus on what is going on right now I just see a brother helping his brother...and Jermaine's task isn't the easiest one.
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Yet all of them stood by him in 2005.
;)
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I don't trust Jermanine. What kind of a brother he is to release that song Word to the bad?
They were jealous with Michael, because of his succes, because of the money that came with it and maybe because Michael received so much love from all over the world.
Yet all of them stood by him in 2005.
I think we should all just get over "word to the badd" it was leaked years ago, and even though Michael was hurt, the two worked it out. if you have a sibling, you should understand the rivalry that goes on (i know i do) and maybe jermaine took it too far by writing and recording and leaking that song, but I'm sure Michael has forgiven him and I think we need to forgive him too.
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Well that song is actually good in my opinion and I like it but not some of the lyrics.
It is not our business to forgive Jermaine, after all he did nothing to us, what's interesting to me is the motivation behind that song.
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Here you go Anewfan,
It's quite long, but really worth to listen. The statement about the children is in part 3. It's worth to listen to the whole interview. Latoya contradicts herself regularly and when she is telling about how they broke the news to Michael's children in the hospital, she really gets lost in her story, and says that is because she is so nervous and shaky. It seemed like she couldn't get the story straight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I)
[youtube:1ljoihys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2_UEZO4Y3I[/youtube:1ljoihys]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyh ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyhQ8A&feature=related)
[youtube:1ljoihys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JXFCyhQ8A&feature=related[/youtube:1ljoihys]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYc ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYcFz8&feature=related)
[youtube:1ljoihys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_t3bYcFz8&feature=related[/youtube:1ljoihys]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24suw&feature=related)
[youtube:1ljoihys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UYxAd24suw&feature=related[/youtube:1ljoihys]
The 2nd video, at :23 "He knew what he had to do for the film to make himself look good err for the people around him." Thats odd, I thought TII was just rehearsal footage for MJ's personal tapes. He knew this was for a film? Wow, and he was 'so cold and weak' yet was planning on doing 50 shows? If the man is so weak and cold, he would be lucky if he could do 10. Ya slipped, La Toya. Thanks!
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I'm not interested in the book Jermaine writes. He is totally behaving and writing like a non-believer and in his book if he's going to write about the hoax, I'm sure that there will be things that we've already heard from the non-believers. Things like "he wouldn't do it to his kids, he wouldn't fake his fans" etc. I prefer to read the books that Michael wrote and I do not care in any other books that are written by other family members.
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So he will address the hoax in his book?
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You surely know the history between these two?????
Teddy was a producer on MJs "Dangerous" album.
When Mj released "Black or White" from that album, Jermaines "Word to the Badd" was leaked out at the same time. Conveniently leaked out by Jermaine himself.
Teddy Riley was quoted at the time as saying (about Jermaine) - "This is just a desperate attempt at fame and attention".
Bad blood between these two for years. Seems it carries on today.
You go Teddy. mj_bad/ lolol/ Thank you for sharing this miss.peppers. I must have missed Teddy saying this about Jermaine.
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So he will address the hoax in his book?
He tweeted that all of the questions will be answered in his book when believers were asking him questions. I don't know if he refered the hoax with it but even if it is about the hoax, I do not care in his book.
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Ok, thanks Purelove! The book was made before him tweeting about hoax, so i was surprised. For a moment I thought he was going to address the hoax anyway. But yes, maybe it's about other related stuff, not the hoax.
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this memoir will now stand as a testimony to the real Michael & his true character, reminding the world who he was, moving forward
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Original pub date was Oct 13th but then trial date moved, and I wasn't having the book published during proceedings...
11 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Change of publication date for my memoir on Michael, 'YOU ARE NOT ALONE', is Sept 13th in UK & US
Ok i don't get it, he changed the pub date of his book because of trial? Why? suspicious//
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
"Do not judge a man until you've walked two moons in his moccasins" -- Michael.
4 hours ago
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@daveyjenx
Dave Jenkins
@jermjackson5 isn't that "don't judge a man till you've moonwalked in his moccasins!"?
So Jermain doesn't even know Michael's quotes? afraid/ He RT the correct one on his page.
Much LOVE to you Jermain, i can see that you are very tired! bearhug
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this memoir will now stand as a testimony to the real Michael & his true character, reminding the world who he was, moving forward
11 hours ago
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Original pub date was Oct 13th but then trial date moved, and I wasn't having the book published during proceedings...
11 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Change of publication date for my memoir on Michael, 'YOU ARE NOT ALONE', is Sept 13th in UK & US
Ok i don't get it, he changed the pub date of his book because of trial? Why? suspicious//
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
"Do not judge a man until you've walked two moons in his moccasins" -- Michael.
4 hours ago
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@daveyjenx
Dave Jenkins
@jermjackson5 isn't that "don't judge a man till you've moonwalked in his moccasins!"?
So Jermain doesn't even know Michael's quotes? afraid/ He RT the correct one on his page.
Much LOVE to you Jermain, i can see that you are very tired! bearhug
It all remains me of his bodyguards. They were very vocal at the time they were gonna release their book, answering fans questions, even making cryptic remarks as to the possibility of Michael being still alive as far as I remember.
What happened with them, does anyone know?
Money can drive people absolutely crazy..
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jermjackson5
@PianoGames not offended, Tom. Your heart is in the right place. Fans are One
So I guess the twitter war is over for now.
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this memoir will now stand as a testimony to the real Michael & his true character, reminding the world who he was, moving forward
11 hours ago
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Original pub date was Oct 13th but then trial date moved, and I wasn't having the book published during proceedings...
11 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Change of publication date for my memoir on Michael, 'YOU ARE NOT ALONE', is Sept 13th in UK & US
Ok i don't get it, he changed the pub date of his book because of trial? Why? suspicious//
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
"Do not judge a man until you've walked two moons in his moccasins" -- Michael.
4 hours ago
in reply to ↑
@daveyjenx
Dave Jenkins
@jermjackson5 isn't that "don't judge a man till you've moonwalked in his moccasins!"?
So Jermain doesn't even know Michael's quotes? afraid/ He RT the correct one on his page.
Much LOVE to you Jermain, i can see that you are very tired! bearhug
The "walking two moons in someone's moccasins" phrase is actually not an original quote from Michael. It's a Native American proverb. It's the same thing as not judging someone until you have walked in their shoes, but Michael did not coin the phrase. I'm sure Jermaine knows that, and was simply making a joke about moonwalking since Michael is known for that.
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Why did Jermaine suddenly tweet Charles Thompson out of the blue? Charles didnt tweet him.
Im glad though... i cant stand Charles. I think he is unintelligent.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
'You Are Not Alone' is the only book I've ever intended to write
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Why did Jermaine suddenly tweet Charles Thompson out of the blue? Charles didnt tweet him.
Im glad though... i cant stand Charles. I think he is unintelligent.
You may be correct, Miss.Peppers but we should also remember that Charles has done a lot to defend Michael. In fact, isn't he the one that is credited for requesting the FBI file? I could be wrong, but I believe he was the one that asked for it to be released (or so the story goes). Personally, I think Michael has something to do with it being released but Charles is the one who fulfilled the request.
Interesting that Jermaine would be tweeting him out of the blue...
Blessings.
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I have never seen this interview before with PJ and JJ...now he really can't say he doesn't know who she is. :lol:
[youtube:1tvmlv42]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnMCRBFGztw[/youtube:1tvmlv42]
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I have never seen this interview before with PJ and JJ...now he really can't say he doesn't know who she is. :lol:
[youtube:2p3xs0rg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnMCRBFGztw[/youtube:2p3xs0rg]
Now look at that! He's definitively having fun at us. Bad Jermi!
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Why did Jermaine suddenly tweet Charles Thompson out of the blue? Charles didnt tweet him.
Im glad though... i cant stand Charles. I think he is unintelligent.
You may be correct, Miss.Peppers but we should also remember that Charles has done a lot to defend Michael. In fact, isn't he the one that is credited for requesting the FBI file? I could be wrong, but I believe he was the one that asked for it to be released (or so the story goes). Personally, I think Michael has something to do with it being released but Charles is the one who fulfilled the request.
Interesting that Jermaine would be tweeting him out of the blue...
Blessings.
On another site, Charles was also slagging MJ off - I find him two-faced personally.
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Why did Jermaine suddenly tweet Charles Thompson out of the blue? Charles didnt tweet him.
Im glad though... i cant stand Charles. I think he is unintelligent.
You may be correct, Miss.Peppers but we should also remember that Charles has done a lot to defend Michael. In fact, isn't he the one that is credited for requesting the FBI file? I could be wrong, but I believe he was the one that asked for it to be released (or so the story goes). Personally, I think Michael has something to do with it being released but Charles is the one who fulfilled the request.
Interesting that Jermaine would be tweeting him out of the blue...
Blessings.
On another site, Charles was also slagging MJ off - I find him two-faced personally.
Charles is just another lunatic. He even tweeted Jermaine to defend Taborelli.
When Japan Tsunami happened... all Charlie boy was tweeting about was Jackson this and that... he has no compassion or connection to the real world. Not one tweet to acknowledge a World event.
He is a liberal band-wagonist. Trust me... Im English and all Charles is is a trumpted up Uni student with rich parents. He is no-one.
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Why did Jermaine suddenly tweet Charles Thompson out of the blue? Charles didnt tweet him.
Im glad though... i cant stand Charles. I think he is unintelligent.
You may be correct, Miss.Peppers but we should also remember that Charles has done a lot to defend Michael. In fact, isn't he the one that is credited for requesting the FBI file? I could be wrong, but I believe he was the one that asked for it to be released (or so the story goes). Personally, I think Michael has something to do with it being released but Charles is the one who fulfilled the request.
Interesting that Jermaine would be tweeting him out of the blue...
Blessings.
On another site, Charles was also slagging MJ off - I find him two-faced personally.
Charles is just another lunatic. He even tweeted Jermaine to defend Taborelli.
When Japan Tsunami happened... all Charlie boy was tweeting about was Jackson this and that... he has no compassion or connection to the real world. Not one tweet to acknowledge a World event.
He is a liberal band-wagonist. Trust me... Im English and all Charles is is a trumpted up Uni student with rich parents. He is no-one.
I respect your thoughts Miss.Peppers and thank you for sharing. I tend to believe that everyone is a someone...even if they make no significant contributions to society or even if they hold differing opinions than our own. I do stand corrected on his motives so thank you. It's a shame, really, but on the positive, change can happen. So, as Michael fulfills his mission to change the world, let's hope Charles is among that group. Blessings to you each and every day :)
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I respect your thoughts Miss.Peppers and thank you for sharing. I tend to believe that everyone is a someone...even if they make no significant contributions to society or even if they hold differing opinions than our own. I do stand corrected on his motives so thank you. It's a shame, really, but on the positive, change can happen. So, as Michael fulfills his mission to change the world, let's hope Charles is among that group. Blessings to you each and every day :)
If he got off his bum and actually did something worthwhile other than whinging and whining, and critising others... and clinging onto Michael to try and make a "name" for himself.... then i might have a certain amount of respect for him.
But he doesnt, so i dont. I just dont see what his contribution is.
Blessings. x
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no one has mentioned for the last few pages, did anyone see the response to souza81?
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These were 2 tweets from Jermaine to Souza.
@souza81 my book will give my version, my truth, and defend Michael wherever I can. that's all i can do
@souza81 people are quick to look inside the fishbowl and pretend to know what the fish are thinking #humannature
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I don't know if anyone saw this, but there is a person on twitter named JoanneDoreen that just started tweeting 2 days ago and they keep badgering Jermaine about telling Souza to shut down this forum. Does anyone know about this person? Here is a link to their profile.
http://twitter.com/#!/JoanneDoreen (http://twitter.com/#!/JoanneDoreen)
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I doubt Jermaine gives a damn about this forum, to be honest. Iam sure those tweets were nothing but the promotion his book. Like-hey guys and gals, listen to me and to me only! There is no hoax, but what this really is you will learn from my best-selling ( with your help ) book. Don't miss it.
So the twitter above is just a waste of time.
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These were 2 tweets from Jermaine to Souza.
@souza81 my book will give my version, my truth, and defend Michael wherever I can. that's all i can do
@souza81 people are quick to look inside the fishbowl and pretend to know what the fish are thinking #humannature
the first one. anyone want to offer their take on what he saying there? i know what it looks like to me , but i was wondering about ya'll
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These were 2 tweets from Jermaine to Souza.
@souza81 my book will give my version, my truth, and defend Michael wherever I can. that's all i can do
@souza81 people are quick to look inside the fishbowl and pretend to know what the fish are thinking #humannature
the first one. anyone want to offer their take on what he saying there? i know what it looks like to me , but i was wondering about ya'll
i am having a hard time copying and pasting them, but if u go to souza profile you will see the questions she asked.
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These were 2 tweets from Jermaine to Souza.
@souza81 my book will give my version, my truth, and defend Michael wherever I can. that's all i can do
@souza81 people are quick to look inside the fishbowl and pretend to know what the fish are thinking #humannature
the first one. anyone want to offer their take on what he saying there? i know what it looks like to me , but i was wondering about ya'll
i am having a hard time copying and pasting them, but if u go to souza profile you will see the questions she asked.
hi
i saw what he is responding to . i just have an interpretation of it in my mind and wondered if anyone else perceives it the same way i do.
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Good thing we all have the right to our opinions.
Mine is that MJ probably wrote the book or is in the process of. It's that simple. Some people act like MJ lives in a cave or is out of touch. Huh? MJ is the DIRECTOR in this HOAX. If he asked Jermaine to copy down his words (or that MJ wrote the words but attributed to Jermaine), big bro would. That simple. After all, Moonwalker was written how long ago? MJ thinks he is slick. He just has so much potential.
Potential stuff still left to do.
1. Jazz Album
2. Game - Thriller II
3. Comic Book
4. Opera Album
5. Movie - Bio (Omer playing him - article came out about this around 8-09)
6. Circus thingy
7. 200 unreleased song - and still writing - Lol
8. Book- Autobiographical (that he'll write)
Now the thing is, I don't think he is pressed to achieve any of the above; hence why he is writing a book under his brother's moniker.
It may just be me, but I haven't looked at any of this Jermaine stuff as cynical. It is a little negative, but not cynical. The "death hoax" in itself was negative. Many of us cried. What is he suppose to say - "MY BROTHER IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE?" Get out of here.
Even children, Prince & Paris's age would know that that is not the way to go. Jermaine has no business exposing MJ's hoax - just like TS doesn't. Dropping clues works though. Some people are too quick to dismiss what he (Maine) dropped about MJ SPEAKING TO & GUIDING HIS MOTHER.
moonwalk_/
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Good thing we all have the right to our opinions.
Mine is that MJ probably wrote the book or is in the process of. It's that simple. Some people act like MJ lives in a cave or is out of touch. Huh? MJ is the DIRECTOR in this HOAX. If he asked Jermaine to copy down his words (or that MJ wrote the words but attributed to Jermaine), big bro would. That simple. After all, Moonwalker was written how long ago? MJ thinks he is slick. He just has so much potential.
Potential stuff still left to do.
1. Jazz Album
2. Game - Thriller II
3. Comic Book
4. Opera Album
5. Movie - Bio (Omer playing him - article came out about this around 8-09)
6. Circus thingy
7. 200 unreleased song - and still writing - Lol
8. Book- Autobiographical (that he'll write)
Now the thing is, I don't think he is pressed to achieve any of the above; hence why he is writing a book under his brother's moniker.
It may just be me, but I haven't looked at any of this Jermaine stuff as cynical. It is a little negative, but not cynical. The "death hoax" in itself was negative. Many of us cried. What is he suppose to say - "MY BROTHER IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE?" Get out of here.
Even children, Prince & Paris's age would know that that is not the way to go. Jermaine has no business exposing MJ's hoax - just like TS doesn't. Dropping clues works though. Some people are too quick to dismiss what he (Maine) dropped about MJ SPEAKING TO & GUIDING HIS MOTHER.
moonwalk_/
Good post, peacock7 beerchug
Huh? MJ is the DIRECTOR in this HOAX
Exactly, let's not forget this.
5. Movie - Bio (Omer playing him - article came out about this around 8-09)
Please, allow me to add:
5.1 Movie: MJ's Death Hoax
5.2 Movie: The Making of the Hoax
5.3 Documentary: the Hoax and the Media
What is he suppose to say - "MY BROTHER IS STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE?" Get out of here.
:lol: :lol: you're right about that.
Some people are too quick to dismiss what he (Maine) dropped about MJ SPEAKING TO & GUIDING HIS MOTHER.
I'm pretty sure Mrs. Jackson represents Michael's voice.
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I respect your thoughts Miss.Peppers and thank you for sharing. I tend to believe that everyone is a someone...even if they make no significant contributions to society or even if they hold differing opinions than our own. I do stand corrected on his motives so thank you. It's a shame, really, but on the positive, change can happen. So, as Michael fulfills his mission to change the world, let's hope Charles is among that group. Blessings to you each and every day :)
If he got off his bum and actually did something worthwhile other than whinging and whining, and critising others... and clinging onto Michael to try and make a "name" for himself.... then i might have a certain amount of respect for him.
But he doesnt, so i dont. I just dont see what his contribution is.
Blessings. x
Miss.Peppers,
I think the same thing as you ;)
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voiceforthesilent wrote:
I respect your thoughts Miss.Peppers and thank you for sharing. I tend to believe that everyone is a someone...even if they make no significant contributions to society or even if they hold differing opinions than our own. I do stand corrected on his motives so thank you. It's a shame, really, but on the positive, change can happen. So, as Michael fulfills his mission to change the world, let's hope Charles is among that group. Blessings to you each and every day
Beautiful and encouraging words. Thank you, voiceforthesilent, for your peaceful message.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Golly. aren't some people quick to embrace TMZ when it suits them...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
don't think for a second that Michael didn't know his father, flaws & strengths. He'd be rolling his eyes like everyone else now...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
But he would NOT subscribe to the hate & vitriol Joseph is being subjected to, whether he be seen as right or wrong...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
those who spit hate & judgment towards this family misunderstand Michael and his core message of love & compassion
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Finally, the truth: "Jermaine's Legacy Project ...was NOT a damaging book about Michael" http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com (http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com)
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
don't think for a second that Michael didn't know his father, flaws & strengths. He'd be rolling his eyes like everyone else now...
I agree with Jermaine. The recent video TMZ made about Joe was rude and disrespectful. These kind of videos or articles where TMZ ridicules Michael and his family makes me think about the TMZ-Michael connection. This is something that Michael wouldn't approve.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
don't think for a second that Michael didn't know his father, flaws & strengths. He'd be rolling his eyes like everyone else now...
..and would never let him into the hoax, knowing all that
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Do you think so? I bet devil Joe lol would have been the first to smell something fishy. How could they keep this secret from him?
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Michael wasn't an immaculate conception after all. Joe is a genius, Michael says so himself. Chop off the ol' block he is. Keeping Joe out of the know would be very dangerous indeed because Joe would figure it out long before any of us.
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I don't know if anyone saw this, but there is a person on twitter named JoanneDoreen that just started tweeting 2 days ago and they keep badgering Jermaine about telling Souza to shut down this forum. Does anyone know about this person? Here is a link to their profile.
http://twitter.com/#!/JoanneDoreen (http://twitter.com/#!/JoanneDoreen)
She did not say to shut down the forum this is what she said:
@jermjackson5 To let you know @Souza81 runs a very popular hoax forum website.
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Um...I guess now I know why people take screen shots...this person DID say to shut the forum down....in several tweets to Jermaine. She had WAY more tweets yesterday.
Souza even sent this person a tweet.
souza81 ~Miss Souza~
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@JoanneDoreen Are you out of your mind? Ask and thy shall receive. Do you WANT the forum to close?
I know I'm not crazy. It's probably another recycled account of people that have nothing better to do than deceive and start crap. It's really annoying. People really need to get a life and spend all that energy on doing productive things.
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Um...I guess now I know why people take screen shots...this person DID say to shut the forum down....in several tweets to Jermaine. She had WAY more tweets yesterday.
Souza even sent this person a tweet.
souza81 ~Miss Souza~
@
@JoanneDoreen Are you out of your mind? Ask and thy shall receive. Do you WANT the forum to close?
I know I'm not crazy. It's probably another recycled account of people that have nothing better to do than deceive and start crap. It's really annoying. People really need to get a life and spend all that energy on doing productive things.
Thanks because the link you posted it did not say to shut it down. Well people who has nothing better to do in their lives are the ones who stir up s**t sorry.. blessings.
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Maybe she deleted them when Souza tweeted her? I don't know. I guess I'm glad that I have better things to do with my time than mess with people.
Take care, all4loveandbelieve.
(I'm a little crabby tonight...I shouldn't post when I'm crabby.)
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Maybe she deleted them when Souza tweeted her? I don't know. I guess I'm glad that I have better things to do with my time than mess with people.
Take care, all4loveandbelieve.
(I'm a little crabby tonight...I shouldn't post when I'm crabby.)
anewfan - bearhug
I agree with you on all accounts (and I like when you get a little crabby. It's like watching Mary Poppins get upset) Many blessings to you.
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Ok I will say it, I thought the commercial that TMZ was funny, not at what they said but the way they did it (I hope that makes sense)...I have no disrespect for the Jackson's or even Joe. I think Joe is a great Dad, yes no one is perfect, but he did what he thought was best for his kids and they are stronger because of him.
I just thought I might say that and clear that up because I would never laugh at someone who is being made fun of, I think it's low and although I did laugh, it wasn't at what they said, I hope everyone understands what I mean.
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Michael wasn't an immaculate conception after all. Joe is a genius, Michael says so himself. Chop off the ol' block he is. Keeping Joe out of the know would be very dangerous indeed because Joe would figure it out long before any of us.
Ok I will say it, I thought the commercial that TMZ was funny, not at what they said but the way they did it (I hope that makes sense)...I have no disrespect for the Jackson's or even Joe. I think Joe is a great Dad, yes no one is perfect, but he did what he thought was best for his kids and they are stronger because of him.
I just thought I might say that and clear that up because I would never laugh at someone who is being made fun of, I think it's low and although I did laugh, it wasn't at what they said, I hope everyone understands what I mean.
It bothers me a lot when I see Joe trashed. He did the best he knew back then, and rather than focus on the bad, why not focus on all the good he did as a father more. I think it should be that 'he who hasn't made parenting mistakes can cast the first stone.' I like Joe, agree he's a genius, and feel sorry for him. It bugs me when my grown children often only point out odd negative memories of my husband/their dad, and I know full well he poured/pours his life out for them, sacrificing and being there for them constantly. Like MJ said, "Good news doesn't sell". People simply seem to enjoy trashing people because they can--freedom of speech. Add to that --the cover of anonymity behind a computer screen.
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And the best part for Joe - he gave us Michael.
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I'm saying that I wasn't laughing at that...I really do have respect for Joe.
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Joe beat those children when they were young and impressionable. I will never be able to brush that off. Their ability to find solace in each other and their inherent mega talents is what saved them from God knows what, not Joe. I don't respect him. Never have and never will. crash/ crash/
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And the best part for Joe - he gave us Michael.
Amen. moonwalk_/
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Joe beat those children when they were young and impressionable. I will never be able to brush that off. Their ability to find solace in each other and their inherent mega talents is what saved them from God knows what, not Joe. I don't respect him. Never have and never will. <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ --> <!-- scrash/ -->crash/<!-- scrash/ -->
Do you know how many children I deal with every day of my life who were abused from their parents? Children that want to commit suicide? Children that think they are a nuisance to their parents, or to the society, these are children age of 7 yrs and up.. So please don't come to me and say that's what he knew best.. Look I am Michael age, well 2 yrs younger, my parents came from italy and were very stricted, but they never laid a hand on me. Never. They punished me or my sibling. They came from the same generation as Michael's parents. Hitting a child does not resolve anything. Joe is darn lucky that all his children turned out very well, God bless them all. But they could have turn out also bad.. Please if you do have children never hit them, it will scare them for life. Talk to them and reason with them, you can punish them so they will understand the situation. Blessings.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Golly. aren't some people quick to embrace TMZ when it suits them...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
don't think for a second that Michael didn't know his father, flaws & strengths. He'd be rolling his eyes like everyone else now...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
But he would NOT subscribe to the hate & vitriol Joseph is being subjected to, whether he be seen as right or wrong...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
those who spit hate & judgment towards this family misunderstand Michael and his core message of love & compassion
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Finally, the truth: "Jermaine's Legacy Project ...was NOT a damaging book about Michael" http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com (http://muzikfactorytwo.blogspot.com)
I agree with Jermaine.
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Do you think so? I bet devil Joe lol would have been the first to smell something fishy. How could they keep this secret from him?
Yes I think so after reading the history of Michael's relationship with him.
Of course, being the way he is he can and does smell something, but it doesn't mean he has this knowledge from Michael, right? And also he has been so busy with numerous selling since the day Michael "died" so I really don't think he has enough time for thinking about anything else. Remember what he was speaking about when he was interviewed being on some event, shortly after the 25th of June, 2009? I don't remember what event it was, but Joe attended it with some studio guys and they were speaking about the new openning of the studio ( or something like that ) and some new projects with the happy smiles upon their faces and there was not a single mourn sign at all. What a strong man - thought I first..What a sneaky man - thought I later..What a poor man - thinking I now, remembering the fact that he never understood his son was not only a bag of money or the way of making the bag of money, but a perfect child with the kindest soul.
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Joe beat those children when they were young and impressionable. I will never be able to brush that off. Their ability to find solace in each other and their inherent mega talents is what saved them from God knows what, not Joe. I don't respect him. Never have and never will. crash/ crash/
"My father did always protect us and that's no small feat. He always tried to make sure people didn't cheat us. He looked after our interests in the best ways. He might have made a few mistakes along the way, but he always thought he was doing what was right for his family. And, of course, most of what my father helped us accomplish was wonderful and unique, especially in regard to our relationships with companies and people in the business. I'd say we were among a fortunate few artists who walked away from a childhood in the business with anything substantial - money, real estate, other investments. My father set all these up for us."
MJ
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Doesn’t change a thing. I deal with kids who still love their abusing parents all the time. Doesn’t mean they don’t suffer some consequence as a result of the abuse. And it certainly doesn’t make me feel any differently about the abuser. Michael is kind and loving by nature ANYWAY. His words are very respectful. He is forigiving. However, I’ve already seen what Joe’s disciplining caused Michael to suffer through. He became a phenomenal success, but he paid a very high price for it, leading a very lonely, secluded existence as an adult. No one can tell me that his childhood wasn’t partially to blame for that. Not even his sweet heart.
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anewfan - bearhug
I agree with you on all accounts (and I like when you get a little crabby. It's like watching Mary Poppins get upset) Many blessings to you.
You are too sweet, voice! bearhug
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Why do we believe Jermaine anyway ? Wasn't he the same one to say Marlons twitter was fake? He even 'quoted' him ... and later Tito said it was real and he was like 'oh'.
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I remember Jermaine said that "real" Marlon started to use that account from that day (when tito confirmed too).
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You can't beat your children like Joe did with Michael when he was little and after to have a normal relationship with your father and have respect for him ...sorry but MJ did tell how horrible it was so I don't like Joe Jackson.....Poor Michael, he was just a child ! His heart is too big and his soul is too wonderful to have anything bad to say about anyone..God bless him .
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I am against all form of abuse but we should also see that Joe and Katherine were raised that way as many people who are 80 years today. Even Katherine said in the Oprah interview "that´s how black people raised their children".
Also, consider the social factor here plus the area where they lived.
Gary was not the ideal city for kids to be raised either. Joe explained many times why he raised his kids that way (something i don´t share) to keep them out from trouble and it worked for him. His concern was to make his kids self suficient to feed themselves. I don´t think that he could predict how sensitive Michael was and how affected he would be by the lack of contact love (in shape of hugs, kisses etc from his dad). The rest of the brothers have been raised the same way and each one of them developed differently emotionally wise.
Michael refers to his father as a "genious" even tho Michael said that he didn´t understand how his father loved him.
Joe was there supporting Michael during the trials and also had interviews after it and was verbal about the conspiracy behind Michael. At the end, what counts is that Joe supported Michael when Michael needed him. Some people show their love that way, by support. Not every one is active with hugs and kisses.
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Attempts to make me see this any other way than the way it is are futile. I’m out of this thread. Abuse is abuse is abuse no matter how you try to clean it up. I’m 100% against it. crash/ crash/ crash/
I’ve seen Michael with his father and in virtually every instance, he did not appear comfortable or relaxed to say the least. As an older adult Michael chose to have the bigger heart and forgive his father. That was the only way to start to heal himself. I applaud that. However, it does not change history and Michael has been over many more years than not ALWAYS completely open about their strained relationship. Joe is not on my list for Dad of the Year by no means.
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Just one more thing…for you who are okay with Michael’s treatment by his father as a young child, tell me this… what did Michael do to cause this? Did he miss a step or skip school? Did he get sleepy and tired or sneak out and get in some trouble? Did he sing the lines wrong or did he curse at his mother? Tell me, what did he do? Which one of those things or anyother things did Michael do to deserve strong corporal punishment? :roll: :roll: NADA. I don’t get it. Never will accept it. It wasn’t nice and it wasn’t right. No excuse is good enough.
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I am against all form of abuse but we should also see that Joe and Katherine were raised that way as many people who are 80 years today. Even Katherine said in the Oprah interview "that´s how black people raised their children".
Also, consider the social factor here plus the area where they lived.
Gary was not the ideal city for kids to be raised either. Joe explained many times why he raised his kids that way (something i don´t share) to keep them out from trouble and it worked for him. His concern was to make his kids self suficient to feed themselves. I don´t think that he could predict how sensitive Michael was and how affected he would be by the lack of contact love (in shape of hugs, kisses etc from his dad). The rest of the brothers have been raised the same way and each one of them developed differently emotionally wise.
Michael refers to his father as a "genious" even tho Michael said that he didn´t understand how his father loved him.
Joe was there supporting Michael during the trials and also had interviews after it and was verbal about the conspiracy behind Michael. At the end, what counts is that Joe supported Michael when Michael needed him. Some people show their love that way, by support. Not every one is active with hugs and kisses.
I agree with everything you said. You could see how much Joe was hurt during the false accusations of that awful trial. You could see it when he was interviewed, you could also see it when he supported Michael at the trials. He isn't a man who shows easy his feelings as more men seem to have trouble with.He grew up at a time a man never could cry or show weakness.Luckely times are different and now a man can cry and be soft at times. For someone of his age it's hard to change and show his real feelings but nevertheless he did.
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hesouttamylife,
I have not seen one post in this thread being pro-punishment. I read that we are against it as much as you do but also can see the social circumstances plus many other factors for Joe to see "normal" to wipp up his kids or as he said, to discipline them.
Fortunately children rights are very active now days to prevent punishment and to educate parents but still there is a long way to go.
Just one more thing…for you who are okay with Michael’s treatment by his father as a young child, tell me this… what did Michael do to cause this? Did he miss a step or skip school? Did he get sleepy and tired or sneak out and get in some trouble? Did he sing the lines wrong or did he curse at his mother? Tell me, what did he do? Which one of those things or anyother things did Michael do to deserve strong corporal punishment? :roll: :roll: NADA. I don’t get it. Never will accept it. It wasn’t nice and it wasn’t right. No excuse is good enough.
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damage already done. Too late thehero in my book. crash/ crash/
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I am against all form of abuse but we should also see that Joe and Katherine were raised that way as many people who are 80 years today. Even Katherine said in the Oprah interview "that´s how black people raised their children".
Also, consider the social factor here plus the area where they lived.
Gary was not the ideal city for kids to be raised either. Joe explained many times why he raised his kids that way (something i don´t share) to keep them out from trouble and it worked for him. His concern was to make his kids self suficient to feed themselves. I don´t think that he could predict how sensitive Michael was and how affected he would be by the lack of contact love (in shape of hugs, kisses etc from his dad). The rest of the brothers have been raised the same way and each one of them developed differently emotionally wise.
Michael refers to his father as a "genious" even tho Michael said that he didn´t understand how his father loved him.
Joe was there supporting Michael during the trials and also had interviews after it and was verbal about the conspiracy behind Michael. At the end, what counts is that Joe supported Michael when Michael needed him. Some people show their love that way, by support. Not every one is active with hugs and kisses.
what gets me angry is that Joe beat michael if he did not dance properly, or made a mistake singing.. That is ludacris. I still do not condemn a parent beating a child if he did something wrong, but in this case if Michael did something drastic Joe would have a reason to beat him( not in my book) but for missing a step in dancing or he did not sing a song properly IS THAT A REASON FOR A BEATING? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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If you feel obliged to disrespect Joe for wthat he did to Michael: less judgement and more understanding does not mean accepting mistakes. Respecting, trying to understand and accept this man with his mistakes does not mean i agree with his past actions. But...
all4loveandbelieve, are you a therapist? I don't know much psychology but i am sure one should not judge but rather understand why a person has that kind of behavior, where does it come from, just like Joe's actions must have other motives somewhere in the background. Motivations he might not even be aware of. We don't know his childhood, we don't know his soul,we don't know his traumas, we don't know his fears, we don't know his struggles, we don't know him period.
People change in time and grow understing their past mistakes. Believe in change!
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i sometimes wonder if this whole thing about the beatings wasn't blown out of proportion by the boys for some reason. and also to my mind to hold joe accountable for his actions and not hold katherine accoutable for inaction is total hypocracy. i would be inclined to bet if the girls were asked specifically about the whole deal people would get a glimpse of joe and katherine in a different light. just sayin'
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@suspicious mind.
LaToya did talk about it in her book. The one she released in 90's.
My point of view is: Michael forgave Joe. I believe he loved Joe and vice-versa. Its not my place to judge. Its not anyones place to judge except Michaels. And Michael forgave. Why do people keep forgetting that and try to speak for Michael all of the time?
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. and also to my mind to hold joe accountable for his actions and not hold katherine accoutable for inaction is total hypocracy. '
In muslim families it's out of question. Women have usually no say in anything because everything depends on only the head of the family - a Man. They are usually being silent even when they don't agree with that head:) So, to me it's perfectly understandable why his mother was in inaction, but they are not muslims.
Maybe she was just afraid of Joe.
But I remember Michael was talking about it in the "Living with Michael Jackson" documentary. He said mother was trying to stop him, screaming - Joe, your gonna kill him ( or something like that ) so, she wasn't too inactive.
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@suspicious mind.
LaToya did talk about it in her book. The one she released in 90's.
My point of view is: Michael forgave Joe. I believe he loved Joe and vice-versa. Its not my place to judge. Its not anyones place to judge except Michaels. And Michael forgave. Why do people keep forgetting that and try to speak for Michael all of the time?
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@suspicious mind.
LaToya did talk about it in her book. The one she released in 90's.
My point of view is: Michael forgave Joe. I believe he loved Joe and vice-versa. Its not my place to judge. Its not anyones place to judge except Michaels. And Michael forgave. Why do people keep forgetting that and try to speak for Michael all of the time?
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i agree very much. they don't have to say anything , you can see little points of interaction that let you know it. i just don't see katherine as some scared little bystander . no one every indicates that he laid a hand on katherine do they? i just get upset cause everyone wants to hang joe by the you know what and katherine is excempt . we will probably never know all of it. besides was it or was it not the kids themselves who starting talking about it all. then they expect no one to take note suspicious//
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what gets me angry is that Joe beat michael if he did not dance properly, or made a mistake singing.. That is ludacris. I still do not condemn a parent beating a child if he did something wrong, but in this case if Michael did something drastic Joe would have a reason to beat him( not in my book) but for missing a step in dancing or he did not sing a song properly IS THAT A REASON FOR A BEATING? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Just to comment the underlined part: children do wrong things all the time, they are in a learning process. Parents must notbit up a child under any circumstances. The child´s behaviour should be corrected via other methods and those techniques are accesible now days to any parent.
50 years ago this information was non existant but today it does exist, in clinical psychology as well.
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@suspicious mind.
LaToya did talk about it in her book. The one she released in 90's.
My point of view is: Michael forgave Joe. I believe he loved Joe and vice-versa. Its not my place to judge. Its not anyones place to judge except Michaels. And Michael forgave. Why do people keep forgetting that and try to speak for Michael all of the time?
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i agree very much. they don't have to say anything , you can see little points of interaction that let you know it. i just don't see katherine as some scared little bystander . no one every indicates that he laid a hand on katherine do they? i just get upset cause everyone wants to hang joe by the you know what and katherine is excempt . we will probably never know all of it. besides was it or was it not the kids themselves who starting talking about it all. then they expect no one to take note suspicious//
Katherine said in the Oprah interview that that´s how people raised his children.
I am sure that non of them Joe or Katherine lays a hand over their grandchildren today and that I call progress.
I believe Michael when he said that Joe abused him verbally and with body punishment and Joe admitted to it and saw what he did "normal". He was not awared of any wrong doing.
It´s also a cultural phenomenon imo. Just 30 years ago in Spain a teacher could slap your face for nothing or twist your ear or pinch you or slap your hand with a ruler as an example.
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Gema
Katherine said in the Oprah interview that that´s how people raised his children.
I am sure that non of them Joe or Katherine lays a hand over their grandchildren today and that I call progress.
I believe Michael when he said that Joe abused him verbally and with body punishment and Joe admitted to it and saw what he did "normal". He was not awared of any wrong doing.
It´s also a cultural phenomenon imo. Just 30 years ago in Spain a teacher could slap your face for nothing or twist your ear or pinch you or slap your hand with a ruler as an example.
Totally. Today there is a strong emphasis on individual human rights, and talk everywhere about abuse of all kinds. In Canada here, Aboriginals have been getting $$$ because of residential abuse in the past. Where's the $$$ for all the other individuals who have been abused--many many. But back then everyone thought they were doing the right thing and helping people. Spanking was part of my childhood and the way I raised my 3. Of course my dad and as well I used that method after other methods were not working. I was also abused physically and mentally by my mother which was a competely different subject, even as she was abused sexually when she was a child. I think the word "abuse" is thrown around a little too loosely, since emotional/mental abuse is very devastating and hard to pinpoint. I really believe we should plain out respect Joe--he did the best he could with what he knew at the time. Think of all the dads that don't live with their kids, take no interest in them. Isn't doing the best we can all each of us are trying to do with our lives? We hope our kids will forgive the mistakes we make. There's that old expression, "Before you judge me, walk a mile in my shoes."
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MJonmind...I agree. Michael has forgiven his father and I'm sure they worked things out years ago.
You mention about the Aboriginals receiving $$ because of residential abuse. For those that do not know the history about this, these kids were not just abused, they were taken away from their families and homes, they were no longer allowed to speak their native language and their way of living came to an abrupt end. Then they had to put up with white people and their teachings and traditions, on top of the abuse. What kid would do well in that scenario?
This wasn't to stir up anything but it struck a nerve.
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This is steering away from topic, but the whole topic of abuse and human rights can become a politically correct or incorrect thing. In my city they are building a gigantic and artistic (expensive) building called The Manitoba Museum of Human Rights to inform tourists/children of human rights issues and various genocides historically. Of course at the top in importance is the Jewish Holocaust (officially 6 million), and since it's on an ancient aboriginal burial ground, they will feature prominantly also the residential school abuses across Canada. But there also was the Cambodian and Rwandan genocides. And a controversy rages over the Ukranian's claim to 7 million deliberately starved by Communists, which would make their suffering slightly larger than the Jews. Unacceptable. There's many more millions than that of black Africans forced from their homes that died on the ships before they even spent their entire lives in back-breaking labor as slaves; and I'm not even sure if they will make it into the museum. Not only the Dodo bird was hunted to extinction, but the aboriginees of Austrailia were also encouraged to be hunted until they were almost extinct (don't have the stats, but it was a horrible genocide). All history has been filled with massive slaughters and abuses of people--the list could go on and on. Now we are at the place in history, because we have the world-wide internet, easier travel, where we can understand and love different nationalities, and people of various religions, cultures, appearances. They need no longer be considered enemies, uncivilized and ignorant, or beneath us. There has to be forgiveness internationally for how we have hurt each other, for who of us hasn't thrown a stone at someone or a people's group.
Bringing this back to topic, how could MJ truly represent and lead people on earth by example (heal the world), if he hadn't experienced hurt and betrayal by those around him, even his own father; and then after time realizing he needed to forgive them. What a strong beautiful heart he has.
Note: By the way since about 15 years now, many people (close to billions) communicate on internet forums, chats, comments etc. and from what I've seen there isn't much love or forgiveness, but instead so much hate, sadistic venom and ridicule. So things haven't really changed. IMO real abuse is always happening, it just changes it's shape and style so that the current generation isn't aware that it is abusing others. We only see how we abused in the previous generations but are blind to our own. JMO Life and history are like a river, always flowing and always changing.
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One thing it's sure: it is not easy to educate a child so well that when he's on his own he's prepared for this world in all ways.
It is very difficult.
I'm not saying I agree with Joe's methods but I think he did what he thought it was the best at that time.
Today we try to make children understand the good word, we try not to apply phisical punishments or something like that but in all honesty - I am not 100% sure the results are what we expect.
...needs great skills to give a child the best education, to put into his head all your experience and make him understand to not repeat the same mistakes but at the same time to give him space to find his own way.
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isn't it interesting though by all accounts marlon probably got the worst of it all . and it would seem that he wound up being the most stable one of the bunch. of course we don't know everything but like i said it would seem.
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Has Jermaine stopped tweeting?
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what gets me angry is that Joe beat michael if he did not dance properly, or made a mistake singing.. That is ludacris. I still do not condemn a parent beating a child if he did something wrong, but in this case if Michael did something drastic Joe would have a reason to beat him( not in my book) but for missing a step in dancing or he did not sing a song properly IS THAT A REASON FOR A BEATING? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Just to comment the underlined part: children do wrong things all the time, they are in a learning process. Parents must notbit up a child under any circumstances. The child´s behaviour should be corrected via other methods and those techniques are accesible now days to any parent.
50 years ago this information was non existant but today it does exist, in clinical psychology as well.
Gema you are right, I agree with you that 50 yrs ago parents were not that educated. In another hand, you are wrong, I am the same age as Michael, well I am 50 yrs old and my parents never never laid a finger on me. If i did something wrong they punished me no tv no going outside and play what ever they saw fit. My parents are Italian they are very very strict, I think they are more strict than Joe Jackson. This is why I do not understand and do not agree for him beating his son. As Mrs. Peppers said, Michael did forgive his father for beating him and that is fine, Joe should count his lucky stars that Michael grew up sane, he could have been scared for all his life. blessings.
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Michael's parents both said that Mama Kate whipped ALL of their children more than the father did. Now! MJ probably was only whipped 5 times in total by his father. Now! How about some of you outing your parents and/or relatives that whipped spanked their children. Why don't some of you look in the mirror to see how you ended up sane? Where is the outrage against Mama Kate? It's just that Papa Joe was a TOUGH TASKMASTER and was trying to get his boys to perform by practicing a lot as practicce makes perfect.
There are many - many of us that got whippings all over the world. Many of us in the US were told to go get a switch. Google Tito speaking about it. He said on the 5 Dynasty that he got whipped for hanging with a gang member - and that Papa Joe threatened to fight all of the boys in the gang if he saw his son with them again. In the J5 movie, they show Tito getting whipped for messing with his father's guitar. I guess that was creative license, because Tito never admitted to more than the gang time. Marlon was whipped for messing up his steps. They never showed MJ getting whipped.
The bottom line was that MJ was never abused like some of you all are throwing around here. Again, many of us also got whipped and we came out alright. For years, MOST TEACHERS IN MOST PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS BEAT (I SAID BEAT WITH A PADDLE) CHILDREN - and the parents couldn't do anything about it. I suppose all of the children from decades and decades ago and up until now should thank their lucky stars that they're still SANE 'eh? Get real. MJ was not mistreated by his father. You need to Google and see what neglect and abuse means. His father fed, clothed them and kept a roof over their heads.
Some on here just want to try and paint Joe Jackson as some kind of monster - and act like he is the only man in the world that whipped/spanked their children. One member of the New York Housewives stated a couple of years ago - that most children that act up - and the parents consent to DRUGGING their children, would be better off with a good old fashioned spanking/whipping. Many folks still believe that.
You need to STOP trying to paint Papa Joe as some monster. MJ's last whipping probably was when he was eight or nine - and again, his parents say that the mother whipped them ALL more than Papa Joe even thought of. No child likes to get whipped - and many of us back then as the whipping went on were thinking - "ouch - I didn’t like this." Who does? And we know how sensitive MJ is. But his parents never abused those children - so you all need to quit it.
MJ didn't miss a beat as it pertains to his upbringing - and there is no way on God's green earth that he could have excelled if he was ABUSED. Don't try to insinuate like George Bush did - that MJ blew up frogs - or almost was a serial killer. Get the hell out of here. MJ didn't get no more whippings than I did - and millions of others to include children that went to CATHOLIC school. Not only were they beat - they were raped over and over - and mainly little boys - as it still goes on. Now those are the ones you should be worried about.
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Speaking as a kid who's Dad beat her, people do change, and you always love your parents. You find forgiveness in your heart when your Dad proves that he is a different person as he grows older. You move on and you let it go because you realize, your parents are not perfect any more then you are yourself. We are all flawed human beings. Current behavior trumps the past and people do mature with age, even as adults. Joe loves and supports Michael, that is obvious, and that is beautiful.
Let he without sin cast the first stone. The relationship and history between Michael and Joe is none of our business.
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Has Jermaine stopped tweeting?
I think he had enough lolol/
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Michael's parents both said that Mama Kate whipped ALL of their children more than the father did. Now! MJ probably was only whipped 5 times in total by his father. Now! How about some of you outing your parents and/or relatives that whipped spanked their children. Why don't some of you look in the mirror to see how you ended up sane? Where is the outrage against Mama Kate? It's just that Papa Joe was a TOUGH TASKMASTER and was trying to get his boys to perform by practicing a lot as practicce makes perfect.
There are many - many of us that got whippings all over the world. Many of us in the US were told to go get a switch. Google Tito speaking about it. He said on the 5 Dynasty that he got whipped for hanging with a gang member - and that Papa Joe threatened to fight all of the boys in the gang if he saw his son with them again. In the J5 movie, they show Tito getting whipped for messing with his father's guitar. I guess that was creative license, because Tito never admitted to more than the gang time. Marlon was whipped for messing up his steps. They never showed MJ getting whipped.
The bottom line was that MJ was never abused like some of you all are throwing around here. Again, many of us also got whipped and we came out alright. For years, MOST TEACHERS IN MOST PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS BEAT (I SAID BEAT WITH A PADDLE) CHILDREN - and the parents couldn't do anything about it. I suppose all of the children from decades and decades ago and up until now should thank their lucky stars that they're still SANE 'eh? Get real. MJ was not mistreated by his father. You need to Google and see what neglect and abuse means. His father fed, clothed them and kept a roof over their heads.
Some on here just want to try and paint Joe Jackson as some kind of monster - and act like he is the only man in the world that whipped/spanked their children. One member of the New York Housewives stated a couple of years ago - that most children that act up - and the parents consent to DRUGGING their children, would be better off with a good old fashioned spanking/whipping. Many folks still believe that.
You need to STOP trying to paint Papa Joe as some monster. MJ's last whipping probably was when he was eight or nine - and again, his parents say that the mother whipped them ALL more than Papa Joe even thought of. No child likes to get whipped - and many of us back then as the whipping went on were thinking - "ouch - I didn’t like this." Who does? And we know how sensitive MJ is. But his parents never abused those children - so you all need to quit it.
MJ didn't miss a beat as it pertains to his upbringing - and there is no way on God's green earth that he could have excelled if he was ABUSED. Don't try to insinuate like George Bush did - that MJ blew up frogs - or almost was a serial killer. Get the hell out of here. MJ didn't get no more whippings than I did - and millions of others to include children that went to CATHOLIC school. Not only were they beat - they were raped over and over - and mainly little boys - as it still goes on. Now those are the ones you should be worried about.
i really only glanced over your post as i am spending time that i don't have at the moment but what i have highlighted caught my eye. what are you refering to? if you could elaberate.
also after this conversation started i have thought about this whole thing more and can see that in reality katherine knew that joe did love those kids ( i think he has an especially strong attachtment to michael , not so much because of the talent but because he would stand up to him at such a young age), was able to have more input than what can be portrayed in a movie or shown in a short interview. but i still believe whipping marlon for making mistakes in dance was misguided and i think it affected michael to be held up as the thing that marlon was competing with. we don't nessaesarally have to believe that the effect was negative.
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Has Jermaine stopped tweeting?
I think he had enough lolol/
Latest tweets were on 2nd june
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
not yet had the call for Fulham FC coach's job but you British soccer fans sure made me laugh #underqualified #ffc
2 Jun
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@KathyHilton @ParisHilton thank you for your beautiful tribute to Michael on @piersmorgan show. love to you all
1 Jun
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The world has changed. When I grew up, at the same years as Michael, parents spanked. As the Bible tells us: "He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24 I got spanked with a hair brush, belt, willow tree branch, fly swatter... I grew up and spanked my kids. My kids spanked my grandkids. But, now, raising foster children, it is against the law to spank. They can hit me, bite me, kick me, break my windows, you name it, but they cannot be spanked.
I think what used to be done in a loving way to teach, is now simply abuse. I look back, being spanked and the spanker, and I think that it was a wrong way to teach. I don't think pain or fear of it teaches correction or retribution for wrong. I think it simply teaches fear. But, I also don't have the right answer because talking, grounding and such does not work either. We do what we must and now the laws have brought to light so much abuse from parenting that some of us think that we were abused too, when really, most of the spankings were done with love to teach, not done with hate and fear.
I think what the Jackson kids thought was rage from Joe, after having kids, now view it as harsh, but loving and teaching. Perhaps if Joe had given the love along with it they'd have felt both.
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spanking to learn a child something is very different from down right abuse,I should know I was abused by my mother she dident hit me to teach me something she would hit me whenever she felt like it,I was scared around my mother and when I heard Michael say that he would get sick if his father was near I felt his pain,I remember one time I had brused my wrist and it was all black and blue,I couldent hold my glass in that hand and I dropped it my mother began yelling at me and I ran for my life,when she found me, she grabbed my wounded wrist and really,really shook it and hit on it and said then to me,that will teach you a lesson,What lesson? I only learned to stay away from my mother as much as I could.
The story,s I heard from Michael that wasent being spanked to teach a lesson in my opnion and like I say thats my opinion,it was downright abuse.
On the other hand I have forgiven my Mother for what she did,I have forgiven her but I will never forget,but dont hurt my mother because I will chase you down if I have to,nobody disrespects my Mother period,I dont care what she has done to me she is still my Mother.
I think this feeling was the same for Michael,whatever his father did He forgave Joe and its none of my bussines what happend between those two,If Michael could forgive just like I did then all is good,and I am sure he loves Joe.
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Speaking as a kid who's Dad beat her, people do change, and you always love your parents. You find forgiveness in your heart when your Dad proves that he is a different person as he grows older. You move on and you let it go because you realize, your parents are not perfect any more then you are yourself. We are all flawed human beings. Current behavior trumps the past and people do mature with age, even as adults. Joe loves and supports Michael, that is obvious, and that is beautiful.
Let he without sin cast the first stone. The relationship and history between Michael and Joe is none of our business.
Thank you, bec, for your awesome post! I agree totally. If we all lived by the sins of our past we would all be condemned.
Forgiveness is a wonderful thing - and if Michael has forgiven Joe then who are we to hang on to this past sin? Life is a learning process (I'm not saying that what he did was right but Joe (in his ignorance) was doing what he felt was right at the time). We all need a second chance.
Please don't respond with I don't know what it's like to be beat, ect. You don't know my life experiences nor I yours.
I love you all. Blessings <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->
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Has Jermaine stopped tweeting?
I think he had enough lolol/
Latest tweets were on 2nd june
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
not yet had the call for Fulham FC coach's job but you British soccer fans sure made me laugh #underqualified #ffc
2 Jun
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@KathyHilton @ParisHilton thank you for your beautiful tribute to Michael on @piersmorgan show. love to you all
1 Jun
Yea I watch him on Twitter. I only have a Twitter account to watch the people who are most likely involved with the hoax. I must look like a loser because they are the only ones i follow lmao
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Has Jermaine stopped tweeting?
I think he had enough lolol/
Latest tweets were on 2nd june
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
not yet had the call for Fulham FC coach's job but you British soccer fans sure made me laugh #underqualified #ffc
2 Jun
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@
@KathyHilton @ParisHilton thank you for your beautiful tribute to Michael on @piersmorgan show. love to you all
1 Jun
Yea I watch him on Twitter. I only have a Twitter account to watch the people who are most likely involved with the hoax. I must look like a loser because they are the only ones i follow lmao
:lol: You are not alone :lol: I'm also on twitter just to see what's going on there, non of friends know my account lolol/
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Thank you to those who keep checking these twitter accounts for those of us who don't! albino/
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spanking to learn a child something is very different from down right abuse,I should know I was abused by my mother she dident hit me to teach me something she would hit me whenever she felt like it,I was scared around my mother and when I heard Michael say that he would get sick if his father was near I felt his pain,I remember one time I had brused my wrist and it was all black and blue,I couldent hold my glass in that hand and I dropped it my mother began yelling at me and I ran for my life,when she found me, she grabbed my wounded wrist and really,really shook it and hit on it and said then to me,that will teach you a lesson,What lesson? I only learned to stay away from my mother as much as I could.
The story,s I heard from Michael that wasent being spanked to teach a lesson in my opnion and like I say thats my opinion,it was downright abuse.
On the other hand I have forgiven my Mother for what she did,I have forgiven her but I will never forget,but dont hurt my mother because I will chase you down if I have to,nobody disrespects my Mother period,I dont care what she has done to me she is still my Mother.
I think this feeling was the same for Michael,whatever his father did He forgave Joe and its none of my bussines what happend between those two,If Michael could forgive just like I did then all is good,and I am sure he loves Joe.
Hi Miranda!
It's rare for me to hear about others strongly abused by their mothers as I was. (People talk about Katherine being an abuser, but they have absolutely NO idea--she was completely loving in all she did for her kids.) Mostly people have lousy fathers. How profound the effect on a person's self-confidence and self-love is when that early motherly nurturing is absent right from birth. Because I was receiving 2 different kinds of "discipline" as a kid I was aware of which one was done out of love. My Dad would always say before spanking that it was because he cared about me. My mother on the other hand verbally/emotionally/physically always told me I was not wanted by her, caused her problems, used me as a punching bag for her pain--mostly blows to the head. (I'm sure she would have aborted me if that had been acceptable in the Christian community at that time.) I do still resent my Dad only for being distant to me, because he worked all the time and ignored what was going on with my mother. I have such envy for people who grew up with a loving mother, but I am because of this very loving and close to my own 3. It makes you more sensitive to other's pain. My mother died when I was 21, a long time ago, but I have long forgiven her and am thankful for the good she did for us kids, because she had her own pain from sexual abuse she had as a child.
It really bothers me that people give Joe such a hard time, for we would have no 'Michael' without him. I think there is more damage on kids today because they are not spanked, than the damage caused in past generation for being spanked (not abused). Many kids today are disrespectful, rude, lazy and often have no self-control, and they are the generation who weren't spanked because of current child-rearing teaching. There are definate consequences for "spanking" or "not spanking". IMO
Jermaine and the whole extended Jackson family are a beautiful united family, with of course some issues like all other families. They deserve our respect and appreciation.
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I got spankings as a child, with anything from belts, shoes, spatulas (used to cook with), even with the Hot Wheels tracks my brother and I used to play with. And I was a lot like Mike, I'd run sometimes. My mother would usually give us a good smack on the butt. My father was different, he would sometimes make us drop our pants and bend over which will always be UNACCEPTABLE under any circumstances. Not only is this a physically painful punishment, but its also embarrassing. Ecspecially for a girl :(. The older I got, the more distant i felt from my father. There was a point in my life between 11-20 that i didn't want anything to do with him. And I was happy that he was gone often on business throughout my childhood. I talk with my father now because i forgive him. He was and is a good father, he just has some messed up ideas about how to raise and discipline children. I can't judge him completely because he has had a very rough childhood. His mother died when he was young, his 15 yr old sister was raped and murdered and his father was an alcoholic. :'(
Severe punishment on children is mentally and emotionally damaging. A smack on the bottom to snap them out of what they are doing is sometimes acceptable in my opinion, but shouldn't always be the only way. nothing that causes PAIN should ever be used to "teach the child a lesson", it seems more like the parent is angry and taking it out on the child. there are many constructive ways to guide your children. Don't give them a bad impression of the world. Show them more beauty and less pain. Give them love and attention. And when they reach the age of "Did you know this? Did you know that?" listen to them, don't become annoyed. This is your child, they are apart of you. Your little flower :). Shower them with love and knowledge. put down the weapon (a belt) and pick up the tool (a book).
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I don't want to sound cold, but can we please stay on topic here?
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Yes, back to topic please - apart from anything else, for your own safety, the information you're sharing here is far too personal for a public forum, IMO.
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
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spanking to learn a child something is very different from down right abuse,I should know I was abused by my mother she dident hit me to teach me something she would hit me whenever she felt like it,I was scared around my mother and when I heard Michael say that he would get sick if his father was near I felt his pain,I remember one time I had brused my wrist and it was all black and blue,I couldent hold my glass in that hand and I dropped it my mother began yelling at me and I ran for my life,when she found me, she grabbed my wounded wrist and really,really shook it and hit on it and said then to me,that will teach you a lesson,What lesson? I only learned to stay away from my mother as much as I could.
The story,s I heard from Michael that wasent being spanked to teach a lesson in my opnion and like I say thats my opinion,it was downright abuse.
On the other hand I have forgiven my Mother for what she did,I have forgiven her but I will never forget,but dont hurt my mother because I will chase you down if I have to,nobody disrespects my Mother period,I dont care what she has done to me she is still my Mother.
I think this feeling was the same for Michael,whatever his father did He forgave Joe and its none of my bussines what happend between those two,If Michael could forgive just like I did then all is good,and I am sure he loves Joe.
Hi Miranda!
It's rare for me to hear about others strongly abused by their mothers as I was. (People talk about Katherine being an abuser, but they have absolutely NO idea--she was completely loving in all she did for her kids.) Mostly people have lousy fathers. How profound the effect on a person's self-confidence and self-love is when that early motherly nurturing is absent right from birth. Because I was receiving 2 different kinds of "discipline" as a kid I was aware of which one was done out of love. My Dad would always say before spanking that it was because he cared about me. My mother on the other hand verbally/emotionally/physically always told me I was not wanted by her, caused her problems, used me as a punching bag for her pain--mostly blows to the head. (I'm sure she would have aborted me if that had been acceptable in the Christian community at that time.) I do still resent my Dad only for being distant to me, because he worked all the time and ignored what was going on with my mother. I have such envy for people who grew up with a loving mother, but I am because of this very loving and close to my own 3. It makes you more sensitive to other's pain. My mother died when I was 21, a long time ago, but I have long forgiven her and am thankful for the good she did for us kids, because she had her own pain from sexual abuse she had as a child.
It really bothers me that people give Joe such a hard time, for we would have no 'Michael' without him. I think there is more damage on kids today because they are not spanked, than the damage caused in past generation for being spanked (not abused). Many kids today are disrespectful, rude, lazy and often have no self-control, and they are the generation who weren't spanked because of current child-rearing teaching. There are definate consequences for "spanking" or "not spanking". IMO
Jermaine and the whole extended Jackson family are a beautiful united family, with of course some issues like all other families. They deserve our respect and appreciation.
I understand what you are saying and I have forgiven my mother too,she is now a good mom to me and I am gratefull for that.
And I have a lot of respect for the Jackson Family,yes also for Joe,because I think he watches over Michael,he is there for his son,although to us it sometimes looks weird but I belive they are all playing theire role in this hoax.
Thats why Jermaine,s tweets dont bother me he cant just say hey guys Michael is alive,to the world he is dead,but I do watch them all closely.
I love the Jackson Family every family has its problems that doesent mean they dont love eachother ;)
sorry Souza from now on I will stay on topic bearhug
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
Dont get your hopes up! Mmmmms the word for him, too.
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
I understand your wanting to get an answer out of him but I don't think this is the right way. All it's going to do is force him to lie even more because this isn't the time to be honest. What are you expecting him to say? He is not going to tell you the truth. I promise this won't bring you the results you are looking for.
I think it's important to let these people give us the answers and come to us with the truth when it's time. We are bringing bad attention to ourselves, not good. Just my opinion, of course.
Blessings
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
voiceforthesilent
I already explained my opinion here viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19460 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19460)
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
I understand your wanting to get an answer out of him but I don't think this is the right way. All it's going to do is force him to lie even more because this isn't the time to be honest. What are you expecting him to say? He is not going to tell you the truth. I promise this won't bring you the results you are looking for.
I think it's important to let these people give us the answers and come to us with the truth when it's time. We are bringing bad attention to ourselves, not good. Just my opinion, of course.
Blessings
I agree with you, I had told scorpionchik, that it will antagonize jermaine even more.. It will make matter worse, just let it be. Do you think he will response to this youtube video, and say yes.. I did all those slip ups and what?? Just let things be, let's nature take its course. This is my opinion
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
I understand your wanting to get an answer out of him but I don't think this is the right way. All it's going to do is force him to lie even more because this isn't the time to be honest. What are you expecting him to say? He is not going to tell you the truth. I promise this won't bring you the results you are looking for.
I think it's important to let these people give us the answers and come to us with the truth when it's time. We are bringing bad attention to ourselves, not good. Just my opinion, of course.
Blessings
I agree with you, I had told scorpionchik, that it will antagonize jermaine even more.. It will make matter worse, just let it be. Do you think he will response to this youtube video, and say yes.. I did all those slip ups and what?? Just let things be, let's nature take its course. This is my opinion
Agree. No need to push the family to spill the beans. They will never do that and they will never admit that they made those slip-ups on purpose.
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded).
I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
That's not what I meant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE)
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded). I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
That's not what I meant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE)
I noticed that, too. And the video they did had misunderstood a lot of what Jermaine had said if you watch carefully.
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded). I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
That's not what I meant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE)
I noticed that, too. And the video they did had misunderstood a lot of what Jermaine had said if you watch carefully.
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Such as......?
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded). I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
That's not what I meant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE)
I noticed that, too. And the video they did had misunderstood a lot of what Jermaine had said if you watch carefully.
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Such as......?
There are parts where they use words that weren't even said by jermaine. I don't mean to offend you, but its obvious that English is not your 1st language, right? I'm not going to watch the video again to point anything out. Either take my word for it or don't. My opinion is the video is 1) stealing Souza's video idea 2) Not 100% accurate.
These are Jerm tweets from yesterday to Kathy Hilton.
KathyHilton Kathy Hilton
@jermainejackson5 I am so happy you saw @piersmorgan ,if I was better prepared I would have said more about all of u, XXXOOO
11 Jun Favorite Retweet Reply »
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@ @KathyHilton what you said was perfect as it was. love to the family
11 Jun Favorite Retweet Reply »
KathyHilton Kathy Hilton
@ @jermjackson5 Is it really u ? I just checked your twitter , give me a clue if its u ?
11 Jun Favorite Retweet Reply in reply to ↑
@jermjackson5
Jermaine Jackson
@KathyHilton it's me...your sister's old neighbor ; ) #lifeonthayerst
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded). I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
That's not what I meant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE)
I noticed that, too. And the video they did had misunderstood a lot of what Jermaine had said if you watch carefully.
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Such as......?
There are parts where they use words that weren't even said by jermaine. I don't mean to offend you, but its obvious that English is not your 1st language, right? I'm not going to watch the video again to point anything out. Either take my word for it or don't. My opinion is the video is 1) stealing Souza's video idea 2) Not 100% accurate.
The point is not about this particular video and its accuracy, or whos video I've sent, I don't care. In fact, there are other similar videos.
My point is that there are obvious clues/hints left by Jermain, he now needs to shut up and do not tweet about us/ believers that we are stupid and making up clues out of his expression he said in "grief" (THat's what he explained in his msg. to me). That's my point. He should watch the video and know why we believe in hoax and that IF Michael is dead, then he is the stupid one who does not know how to speak and express his mind not to confuse people, since his slip ups obvious message that Michael is alive. :roll:
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I have just tweeted this video to him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VD ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGtK8VDahY&feature=player_embedded). I want to see how he will react if he will at all.
How familiar that video...
that's on our hoax video thread.
That's not what I meant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2m0yR0FjE)
I noticed that, too. And the video they did had misunderstood a lot of what Jermaine had said if you watch carefully.
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Such as......?
There are parts where they use words that weren't even said by jermaine. I don't mean to offend you, but its obvious that English is not your 1st language, right? I'm not going to watch the video again to point anything out. Either take my word for it or don't. My opinion is the video is 1) stealing Souza's video idea 2) Not 100% accurate.
The point is not about this particular video and its accuracy, or whos video I've sent, I don't care. In fact, there are other similar videos.
My point is that there are obvious clues/hints left by Jermain, he now needs to shut up and do not tweet about us/ believers that we are stupid and making up clues out of his expression he said in "grief" (THat's what he explained in his msg. to me). That's my point. He should watch the video and know why we believe in hoax and that IF Michael is dead, then he is the stupid one who does not know how to speak and express his mind not to confuse people, since his slip ups obvious message that Michael is alive. :roll:
I'm not going to fight with you on the internet, its not my style. All I was trying to say is that the video in particular is not the most accurate one, thats all. I respect your opinion and believe you have great intentions and an excellent heart :D. I also believe we should back off a little from jermaine because he knows what he has said. There is nothing you or I can do to make him publicly admit anything about MJ being alive. Its not his place. Sorry if I have insulted you in any way. Have a great day! beerchug
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@msirismg remember, farrah fawcett passed the same time as Michael. She lost 'family' too. I'm just correcting a myth
10 hours ago
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@bcox64 been aware that Murray's been thinking about a book for a while. and people wonder why I decided to write mine #truth
10 hours ago
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@msirismg I'm sure @Tatum_Oneal meant well. She was otherwise kind about Michael, but this myth is upsetting
10 hours ago
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
bad enough contending with what Murray's defense is likely to claim without more misinformation
10 hours ago
Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
to clarify @Tatum_Oneal, Michael wasn't "addicted" as you said on @piersmorgan. propofol was administered for him to sleep #factsplease
10 hours ago
So now his reason for writing his book is because Murray was thinking about writing one?
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What is this myth he's talking about? Why does he say Tatum meant well? About what?
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What is this myth he's talking about? Why does he say Tatum meant well? About what?
Its in the post above you. He is referring to Tatum ONeal saying Mj was addicted to Propofol.
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What is this myth he's talking about? Why does he say Tatum meant well? About what?
Its in the post above you. He is referring to Tatum ONeal saying Mj was addicted to Propofol.
Ok, I tought it could be about something else. Thanks! :)
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
to clarify @Tatum_Oneal, Michael wasn't "addicted" as you said on @piersmorgan. propofol was administered for him to sleep #factsplease
10 hours ago
Ohh good, so Jermaine is admitting that Michael was not an addict.
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You know, I'm really starting to consider maybe Piers Morgan is in on the hoax. MJ needs to have respectable journalists on his side. Piers has a lot of MJ related guests on his show. Last night, he had Jada Pinket Smith, Steve Harvey and Tatum O'neil was either on last night or on today. Its interesting though.
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You know, I'm really starting to consider maybe Piers Morgan is in on the hoax. MJ needs to have respectable journalists on his side. Piers has a lot of MJ related guests on his show. Last night, he had Jada Pinket Smith, Steve Harvey and Tatum O'neil was either on last night or on today. Its interesting though.
Your thoughts are not odd - I have wondered the same. But wouldn't he bring Geraldo into the mix instead? Maybe he doesn't know anything but like a lot of others he suspects?
Either way he does seem to have a lot of people connected to Michael on his show - and he brings up Michael to them instead of talking solely about their lives (example: Kathy Hilton and Tatum O'Neil). Tatum, for example, probably hasn't seen Michael in years but he asks her about Michael? Interesting to me, for sure.
Blessings :)
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You know, I'm really starting to consider maybe Piers Morgan is in on the hoax. MJ needs to have respectable journalists on his side. Piers has a lot of MJ related guests on his show. Last night, he had Jada Pinket Smith, Steve Harvey and Tatum O'neil was either on last night or on today. Its interesting though.
Your thoughts are not odd - I have wondered the same. But wouldn't he bring Geraldo into the mix instead? Maybe he doesn't know anything but like a lot of others he suspects?
Either way he does seem to have a lot of people connected to Michael on his show - and he brings up Michael to them instead of talking solely about their lives (example: Kathy Hilton and Tatum O'Neil). Tatum, for example, probably hasn't seen Michael in years but he asks her about Michael? Interesting to me, for sure.
Blessings :)
Well, IMO, Geraldo is good for the older audience members. Piers is a bit more contemporary, I'm 23 and would rather watch Piers than Geraldo. And, in my opinion, with Geraldo's histroy with MJ, it wouldn't stand out as much if he were the one talking about MJ to everyone. And Piers is a better interviewer in my opnion. He asks deeper questions, it allows the guest to be real for a minute and say how they truly feel instead of selling whatever they need to sell. His questions seem sincere and are not meant to bash the guest in any way and I think MJ would respect that quality.
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Anyone else see Jermaines tweet where he has admitted he didnt speak to MJ in May at that party????
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Anyone else see Jermaines tweet where he has admitted he didnt speak to MJ in May at that party????
Anything else you would like to admit, Jermaine?
blttrox Barb Troxel
@jermjackson5 Pls block the haters you deserve so much better than to be attacked Here for you Jerm now & always
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Jermaine Jackson @blttrox I don't see hate. everyone is just trying their best out of fierce belief and passion. i understand.
Yes Jermaine, we are trying out of fierce beLIEf and passion. For Michael and those he loves ;)
clearmjsname1 clearmjsname
@jermjackson5 what would have been great would be to get on a show with oprah and debunk all the lies in front of her,national tv debunking
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Jermaine Jackson @clearmjsname1 i intend to do that in sept, everywhere
Is his book coming out in September, or is he talking about Murray trial? Or is he saying that he will reveal the TRUTH everywhere around the world?!? What is this man talking about?
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Yeah, his book is coming out in September.
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Jermain's recent tweets
jermjackson5 reminder all: this aint a debate about Michael's fitness. It's about justice for a life taken
about 8 hours ago via web
jermjackson5 let me be clear: Michael WAS fit & healthy & ready to rock the world when we last saw him in the may. no myth. no contradiction.
about 9 hours ago via web
P.S.. I don't think Piers Morgan is in hoax. What I think is Jacksons ask him to bring Michael's death subjectto stop hoax rumors. Perhaps because Michael said so or whoever else is involved for his safety.
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Anyone else see Jermaines tweet where he has admitted he didnt speak to MJ in May at that party????
Wasnt jermaine the one that said when Michael was leaving, Jermaine told him he liked what he had done with a song, and Michael told him Thanks and that it meant alot coming from him. Anyone remember that? confused/
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Anyone else see Jermaines tweet where he has admitted he didnt speak to MJ in May at that party????
Wasnt jermaine the one that said when Michael was leaving, Jermaine told him he liked what he had done with a song, and Michael told him Thanks and that it meant alot coming from him. Anyone remember that? confused/
Yes i do remember that... so Jermaine has just said the opposite AGAIN. Because that tweet definitely states he didnt talk to MJ at that party.
Oh, Jermaine!!!
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so jermaine seems to be insisting michael was healthy while karen insist he was not , yet they are on the same he is dead kick. maybe they forgot to compare notes.
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@florikahbev
Floral @jermjackson5 Hey Jermain! If Michael was here do you think he would really quit pop music?? #wemissmj
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Jermaine Jackson @florikahbev [highlight=#ff80ff:9owy1dnq]no, michael was nowhere near quitting ; )[/highlight:9owy1dnq]
12 hours ago via web
Notice the wink?!
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Thank you for posting this.
Doesn't the :) at the end seem a little out of place? "if" Michael were dead now (as Uncle Harvey says) it would be really sad that Michael was nowhere near quitting. Maybe I'm reading too much into that smiley at the end.
Blessings.
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@florikahbev
Floral @jermjackson5 Hey Jermain! If Michael was here do you think he would really quit pop music?? #wemissmj
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@jermjackson5
Jermaine Jackson @florikahbev [highlight=#ff80ff:309kqkwc]no, michael was nowhere near quitting ; )[/highlight:309kqkwc]
12 hours ago via web
Notice the wink?!
Yep yep. What's that wink for? That would be inappropriate if he was dead for real. bounce/
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@florikahbev
Floral @jermjackson5 Hey Jermain! If Michael was here do you think he would really quit pop music?? #wemissmj
13 hours ago
@jermjackson5
Jermaine Jackson @florikahbev [highlight=#ff80ff:1rflocas]no, michael was nowhere near quitting ; )[/highlight:1rflocas]
12 hours ago via web
Notice the wink?!
Yep yep. What's that wink for? That would be inappropriate if he was dead for real. bounce/
Great point.
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@florikahbev
Floral @jermjackson5 Hey Jermain! If Michael was here do you think he would really quit pop music?? #wemissmj
13 hours ago
@jermjackson5
Jermaine Jackson @florikahbev [highlight=#ff80ff:2cuqxhrn]no, michael was nowhere near quitting ; )[/highlight:2cuqxhrn]
12 hours ago via web
Notice the wink?!
Yep yep. What's that wink for? That would be inappropriate if he was dead for real. bounce/
Great point.
I feel Jermaine is being coached too much by Michael,he forgets what he has said before hand, and remember lies have short legs. In order to be a good liar you need to remember your lies, and be constant if you aren't oh well this is the effect of not remembering, you will be a Jermaine lolol/ Yes indeed why a happy smilie when Michael is supposedly be dead?
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Jermaine is tweeting about the rare paintings...in the midst of someone attacking him verbally and mother Katherine. What a shame that people cannot be respectful.
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@KarlaJorge we search for the same clarification. I just know that Michael had a debt of gratitude to Brett for everything he'd taught him
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@KarlaJorge a lot of that work was under tutelage/in collaboration with Brett. It was Michael's decision to keep his art with him
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@KarlaJorge I know nothing of Tohme-Tohme involvement. But remember, he was the one who went into an unpermitted dismantling of Neverland
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trust me, whatever my Mother has of Michael's, she treasures
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@Shay_da_bess the full breadth of Michael's talents were never fully appreciated. his art was his modesty
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@Randygirl4life he always sketched as a child, from the moment we arrived in Hollywood
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@Randygirl4life he did - it was the one secret place the world never found out about it. until now.
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@fan4always much of Michael's work was, to best of my knowledge, mainly furniture pieces. i went to the hangar only once
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@fan4always I don't know yet
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@MissLoriAnne the airport hangar's anonymity is why Michael chose it
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these are the basic facts as I know them, and I hope others will reserve judgment and "liar" comments until more facts emerge
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ps: Michael personally chose to keep this art at the airport hangar since the mid nineties
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Lastly, this art was under the tutelage and guardianship of Brett, not Mother
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Michael sketched Martin Luther King and Charlie Chaplin many times...
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Michael spent many years painting & sketching in an airport hangar with Brett Livingstone Strong. this was never 'lost' art.
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I know reports about Michael's art concerns you all. I will reserve judgment til we know FACTS, but here's what I can say...
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My gosh. Katherine is an old and sweet lady. I am shocked people don´t respect their elders any more.
Interesting to know that Michael painted in a hangar...could it be the hangar of "hold my hand" video? ;)
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
53 years ago today, the world of music & humanity was gifted the arrival of one incredible talent & person...and we, a special brother
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
53 years ago today, the world of music & humanity was gifted the arrival of one incredible talent & person...and we, a special brother
This message gives to think suspicious//
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Jermaine has just made these tweets: afraid/ :mrgreen:
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
So, everyone has been asking about the UK book cover, wondering "why half of Michael's face is covered with the title's red banner". Well...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I said long ago that there would be surprises with this book. And so...
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
And here's the surprise for 1,000 copies only, to be released Nov 10th in UK
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Qi6n-wM9o[/youtube]
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This is the surprise...? A photo? You know, after he said that Michael is a master of promoting, I don't see anything else in Jermaine's words. It's only for the purpose of selling his book. And this, to me, means exploiting his borther for his own gain. And it makes me very sad.
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Let's not be judgemental Anna. He said there'll be surprises with the book and so... What is that "AND SO" there for? Maybe he really has a surprise with the book that he can reveal after MJ BAMs. We do not know it yet.
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
And here's the surprise for 1,000 copies only, to be released Nov 10th in UK
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Qi6n-wM9o[/youtube]
I guess we'll have to wait for the release of the book.
I wonder if we'll be able to read it for free online like LaToya's book....??
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I think the book is released today 13th Sept, not 10th Nov. It's on sale on Amazon UK for delivery Thursday.
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Jermaine has just made these tweets: afraid/ :mrgreen:
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
So, everyone has been asking about the UK book cover, wondering "why half of Michael's face is covered with the title's red banner". Well...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I said long ago that there would be surprises with this book. And so...
Wow..that is really interesting. I wonder why half his face is covered by the banner....seems almost to be suggesting his lips are sealed...he knows a secret?...a BIG one perhaps..... :shock:
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
And here's the surprise for 1,000 copies only, to be released Nov 10th in UK
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Qi6n-wM9o[/youtube]
I guess we'll have to wait for the release of the book.
I wonder if we'll be able to read it for free online like LaToya's book....??
Good pic of MJ. I wonder if TS will have us discuss this book too.
(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Michael-Jackson-p02.jpg)
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Jermaine has just made these tweets: afraid/ :mrgreen:
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
So, everyone has been asking about the UK book cover, wondering "why half of Michael's face is covered with the title's red banner". Well...
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
I said long ago that there would be surprises with this book. And so...
Wow..that is really interesting. I wonder why half his face is covered by the banner....seems almost to be suggesting his lips are sealed...he knows a secret?...a BIG one perhaps..... :shock:
Probably you are right smiley_spider
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Jermaine retweeted this link:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-bowes-reporting-from-california/what-jermaine-jackson-really-says-about-his-plan-to-help-brother-michael-flee-th/232442050137289
"Jermaine Jackson's memoir, You Are Not Alone Michael: Through a Brother's Eyes, went on sale today. Over the past few days excerpts have been serialized and mis-reported by agencies and publications around the world. The main headline, that Jermaine had an elaborate plan to whisk his brother out of the U.S., if he was convicted in his 2005 abuse trial, is inaccurate.
Jermaine actually says he planned to sneak Michael out of Neverland under a blanket....the moment his lawyer suggested the "scales of justice" were tilting against him. Significantly, the plan was to get Michael out of the country BEFORE a verdict was rendered in the case. He would flee the US justice system. But it was clear to everyone covering the case that the moment the jury returned a guilty verdict, Jackson would be handcuffed and taken to jail, pending sentencing at a later date. There would be no opportunity to implement an escape plan.
US TV just headlined: "The King of Pop's secret plan to leave the US." But the book says - Michael Jackson had no knowledge of the desperate measure being plotted by his brother. In the event, he was found not guilty of all charges.
Jermaine's claim is meant to demonstrate his concern and desperation...a feeling that the US justice system was against his little brother...that he was being persecuted. As things turned out, the US court and a jury of his peers exonerated the pop star. Had he fled into self imposed exile in Bahrain, he would have been forever guilty, in the public's eyes. "
Once again, he confirms how that 2005 trial affected Michael and his family.
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I wonder if TS will have us discuss this book too.
I'm wondering about that too MJonmind.
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I found this on Twitter.
Quote from Jermaine Jackson's " You are not alone " book : " On Saturday, June 20, the director K.Ortega visited Michael at home and 1 hour after he left, choreographer Travis Payne, received a phone call from Kenny telling him to get to the house urgently.
That same afternoon the musical director, Michael Bearden, made a bizarre announcement to dancers and crew on stage, telling them : "Everyone needs to pray for Michael and send him good wishes "
afraid/ Of course it is good to send your prayers to someone before he dies. lolol/ And it looks like Jermaine's book has clues about the hoax. ;)
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I found this on Twitter.
Quote from Jermaine Jackson's " You are not alone " book : " On Saturday, June 20, the director K.Ortega visited Michael at home and 1 hour after he left, choreographer Travis Payne, received a phone call from Kenny telling him to get to the house urgently.
That same afternoon the musical director, Michael Bearden, made a bizarre announcement to dancers and crew on stage, telling them : "Everyone needs to pray for Michael and send him good wishes "
afraid/ Of course it is good to send your prayers to someone before he dies. lolol/ And it looks like Jermaine's book has clues about the hoax. ;)
This quote may have two interpretations.
Based on the initial statements of Jermaine, it can mean to pray for Michael because he is in very bad health. :? Or, can mean we have to pray that your plan works out and for Michael stay be safe.
We need to read the entire book to discuss better.
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I found this on Twitter.
Quote from Jermaine Jackson's " You are not alone " book : " On Saturday, June 20, the director K.Ortega visited Michael at home and 1 hour after he left, choreographer Travis Payne, received a phone call from Kenny telling him to get to the house urgently.
That same afternoon the musical director, Michael Bearden, made a bizarre announcement to dancers and crew on stage, telling them : "Everyone needs to pray for Michael and send him good wishes "
afraid/ Of course it is good to send your prayers to someone before he dies. lolol/ And it looks like Jermaine's book has clues about the hoax. ;)
This quote may have two interpretations.
Based on the initial statements of Jermaine, it can mean to pray for Michael because he is in very bad health. :? Or, can mean we have to pray that your plan works out and for Michael stay be safe.
We need to read the entire book to discuss better.
But it's not Jermaine who asked people to pray for Michael. It's Michael Bearden who asked for it 5 days before Michael "passed". :mrgreen: And on the same day, Michael called Kenny Ortega and Travis Payne and invited them to meet him at his house. Maybe to talk about the plans for the last time? Who knows.
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Is the book out yet? If so, I need to get my butt over to Books -A- Million!
This will be a great book! I have so much faith in Jermaine, I love him very much!
And I know he loves his baby brother Michael more than anything and would do anything for him.
And the fact that Jermaine mentions that the '05 Trial changed the family tells you so much. They realized
just how close they came to losing Michael, and Mike realized how close he got to losing his freedom, his life and his children who mean the entire world to him. I just want to see MJ in the physical again. He is a part of my BIG universal family, as all of you are too!
You go Mr. Jermaine! Show the evildoers just how strong a family bond is!
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Michael Bearden says what Jermaine says is not true and that he never said that.
FACEBOOK:
Question from facebook user:
a Quote from Jermaine Jackson's new book:
On Saturday, June 20, the director Kenny Ortega visited Michael at home and one hour after he left, choreographer Travis Payne received a phone call from Kenny telling him to get to the house urgently. That same afternoon the musical director, Michael Bearden, made a bizarre announcement to dancers and crew on stage, telling them: "Everyone needs to pray for Michael and send him good wishes."
Michael, can you confirm or deny that you said that to the dancers and crew?
Michael Bearden's answer:
Michael Bearden's Fan Page
wow! seriously? never happened on my end! i'm sure that new book will be in my lawyers office soon! I will always remain a true friend to MJ even if his own family won't..spread love...m~
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150289846668867&id=297342698866¬if_t=feed_comment
TWITTER:
MichaelBearden michael bearden
Hey tweeps! if jermaine rumors are indeed in his new book, a more official statement is forthcoming! until then, embracing a higher path! m~
12 Sept.
michael bearden
MichaelBearden michael bearden
Lots of rumors from Jermaine about me and statements to TII crew. No truth to it whatsoever!! Exploitation by family is the worst! Sad.. M~
12 Sept.
http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelBearden
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Michael Bearden says what Jermaine says is not true and that he never said that.
FACEBOOK:
Question from facebook user:
a Quote from Jermaine Jackson's new book:
On Saturday, June 20, the director Kenny Ortega visited Michael at home and one hour after he left, choreographer Travis Payne received a phone call from Kenny telling him to get to the house urgently. That same afternoon the musical director, Michael Bearden, made a bizarre announcement to dancers and crew on stage, telling them: "Everyone needs to pray for Michael and send him good wishes."
Michael, can you confirm or deny that you said that to the dancers and crew?
Michael Bearden's answer:
Michael Bearden's Fan Page
wow! seriously? never happened on my end! i'm sure that new book will be in my lawyers office soon! I will always remain a true friend to MJ even if his own family won't..spread love...m~
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150289846668867&id=297342698866¬if_t=feed_comment (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150289846668867&id=297342698866¬if_t=feed_comment)
TWITTER:
MichaelBearden michael bearden
Hey tweeps! if jermaine rumors are indeed in his new book, a more official statement is forthcoming! until then, embracing a higher path! m~
12 Sept.
michael bearden
MichaelBearden michael bearden
Lots of rumors from Jermaine about me and statements to TII crew. No truth to it whatsoever!! Exploitation by family is the worst! Sad.. M~
12 Sept.
http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelBearden (http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelBearden)
Good God in Heaven NO!!!!
Why? What is going on?!
On the other hand: Thank God for Twitter or this Hoax would be slow as hell lmao
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It is amazing how Michael Bearden and Teddy Riley speak against the family! :?
Do you remember the time in which we believe that Michael Bearden could be Dodo?
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Michael Bearden says what Jermaine says is not true and that he never said that.
FACEBOOK:
Question from facebook user:
a Quote from Jermaine Jackson's new book:
On Saturday, June 20, the director Kenny Ortega visited Michael at home and one hour after he left, choreographer Travis Payne received a phone call from Kenny telling him to get to the house urgently. That same afternoon the musical director, Michael Bearden, made a bizarre announcement to dancers and crew on stage, telling them: "Everyone needs to pray for Michael and send him good wishes."
Michael, can you confirm or deny that you said that to the dancers and crew?
Michael Bearden's answer:
Michael Bearden's Fan Page
wow! seriously? never happened on my end! i'm sure that new book will be in my lawyers office soon! I will always remain a true friend to MJ even if his own family won't..spread love...m~
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150289846668867&id=297342698866¬if_t=feed_comment (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150289846668867&id=297342698866¬if_t=feed_comment)
TWITTER:
MichaelBearden michael bearden
Hey tweeps! if jermaine rumors are indeed in his new book, a more official statement is forthcoming! until then, embracing a higher path! m~
12 Sept.
michael bearden
MichaelBearden michael bearden
Lots of rumors from Jermaine about me and statements to TII crew. No truth to it whatsoever!! Exploitation by family is the worst! Sad.. M~
12 Sept.
http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelBearden (http://twitter.com/#!/MichaelBearden)
" sigh "...................... /cook/
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Oh my.... errrr What's going on?!
Why Bearden says such bad things about Michael's family?
I don't want Jermain to have a pile of lawsuits against him because of his book. Because i want to believe that he is not lying to us. He can't lie to us, can he? errrr
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Oh my.... errrr What's going on?!
Why Bearden says such bad things about Michael's family?
I don't want Jermain to have a pile of lawsuits against him because of his book. Because i want to believe that he is not lying to us. He can't lie to us, can he? errrr
If you love Michael solely based on his art, his humanitarian efforts, his cry for peace.
And thats all you have your love to base itself on....
Then how do you think Jermaine feels about Michael?
He left the Jackson 5 behind for love (of Barry Gordy's daughter) nonetheless.
He loves his brother, who has the same blood flowiing through his veins at this very moment.
Who has taken EVERY blow to Michael as if it were directed at him.
Do not doubt Jermaine. For he is apart of Michael in a way that most of us cannot comprehend just yet.
Doubt is inevitable.
Think of it this way: You love your family, right?
You would risk every bone in your body for them, right?
Why would the Jackson family be any different?!
Jermaine loves his brother Michael. They sang together so beautifully. It was and is fate that Jermaine speaks for Michael when Michael is not here to speak for himself.
MJ is alive! He cannot speak because he is playing the role of a 'dead' man. You know, the whole CM Propofol gig. He is off acting and Jermaine is the commentary if you check the bonus material.
;) I hope you understand!
I love you
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Thank you moon! I LOVE you too! bearhug
I guess i'm just tired, i haven't slept yet :-[ .
I wish people will quit talking in a bad way about Michael and his family. I know that one day it will happen and people will realize how wrong they were.
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I made a thread about the book because I just bought it but I thought I'd post some of the things I said there here:
Ok so a few more interesting things from reading:
He says that after Joseph went to his little sister's funeral when he was 11, he vowed never to attend another funeral and he kept that promise. "until 2009."
And he addresses the middle name issue:
"From somewhere, and especially after Michael's death, a rumor began that his middle name was Joseph. Maybe this myth prefers the echo with our father's name because the crossover reads better about a father and a son who struggled to see eye to eye. 'Joe' was his middle name, as recorded on his birth certificate."
He also talks about the #7:
"Michael was the seventh child with seven letters in his first name and "7" was his favorite number. So, numerically, his name is "777." That's the jackpot there. The Lucky 7s..."
"But "7" was central to his identity."
and he talks about how it was sewn into his clothes and significant in his artwork.
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Is Jermaine in the UK right now, because lots of radio and TV interviews with him are popping up here? Has he tweeted anything?
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Bearden said that, nope he didn't say that. What do we see here again? Controversy!!! And what did Teddy say Michael lives for? CONTROVERSY! And what have we been seeing in EVERYTHING the family, friends, co-workers say or do since Michael "died"? CONTROVERSY! So, why need to be surprised about what Bearden says about Jermaine's book and the family? ;)
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I made a thread about the book because I just bought it but I thought I'd post some of the things I said there here:
Ok so a few more interesting things from reading:
He says that after Joseph went to his little sister's funeral when he was 11, he vowed never to attend another funeral and he kept that promise. "until 2009."
And he addresses the middle name issue:
"From somewhere, and especially after Michael's death, a rumor began that his middle name was Joseph. Maybe this myth prefers the echo with our father's name because the crossover reads better about a father and a son who struggled to see eye to eye. 'Joe' was his middle name, as recorded on his birth certificate."
He also talks about the #7:
"Michael was the seventh child with seven letters in his first name and "7" was his favorite number. So, numerically, his name is "777." That's the jackpot there. The Lucky 7s..."
"But "7" was central to his identity."
and he talks about how it was sewn into his clothes and significant in his artwork.
lolol/ So, we don't have more to discuss these two points. He confirms two things most important to the research hoax.
Thanks Jermaine! penguin/
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Did Jermaine write that?
"Michael was the seventh child with seven letters in his first name and "7" was his favorite number. So, numerically, his name is "777." That's the jackpot there. The Lucky 7s..."
Or, is your opinion?
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There is also 7 letters in Jackson! The whole family is 7 :)
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excuse me, but what the fuck? "From somewhere, and especially after Michael's death, a rumor began that his middle name was Joseph" - A rumor?! JOSEPH is in all his documents after june 2009, including autopsy report and death certificate. And he says it's a rumor? The way he puts it looks like this wouldn't happen with the official documents, he treates it like a tabloid gossip. Then why is it not JOE on all the docs after june 2009? And to say it like this "a rumor began that his middle name was Joseph" when we all see Joseph in all official documents. He could have at least said "a missunderstanding began" or something else, not rumor! It makes his whole familly look like a bunch of dumbs who don't know Michael's name. And by the way, Jermaine, that "somewhere" from where the rumor began are actually: Autopsy report, death certificate and any other official document after june 2009.
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Did Jermaine write that?
"Michael was the seventh child with seven letters in his first name and "7" was his favorite number. So, numerically, his name is "777." That's the jackpot there. The Lucky 7s..."
Or, is your opinion?
Jermaine wrote it ;D I just quoted it.
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Did Jermaine write that?
"Michael was the seventh child with seven letters in his first name and "7" was his favorite number. So, numerically, his name is "777." That's the jackpot there. The Lucky 7s..."
Or, is your opinion?
Jermaine wrote it ;D I just quoted it.
OMG! WTF?? :shock:
That´s what "we crazy hoaxers delutionals who can´t let Michael go" have been writing :shock:
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excuse me, but what the fuck? "From somewhere, and especially after Michael's death, a rumor began that his middle name was Joseph" - A rumor?! JOSEPH is in all his documents after june 2009, including autopsy report and death certificate. And he says it's a rumor? The way he puts it looks like this wouldn't happen with the official documents, he treates it like a tabloid gossip. Then why is it not JOE on all the docs after june 2009? And to say it like this "a rumor began that his middle name was Joseph" when we all see Joseph in all official documents. He could have at least said "a missunderstanding began" or something else, not rumor! It makes his whole familly look like a bunch of dumbs who don't know Michael's name. And by the way, Jermaine, that "somewhere" from where the rumor began are actually: Autopsy report, death certificate and any other official document after june 2009.
Great. Thanks for clearing that up, Jermaine michael-jackson/
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Jermaine made this tweet today.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
People in band & inner-circle knew of Michael's plans for the future, and this info challenges common understandings built since 2009 #truth
This is about who knows the hoax imo.
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Jermaine made this tweet today.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
People in band & inner-circle knew of Michael's plans for the future, and this info challenges common understandings built since 2009 #truth
This is about who knows the hoax imo.
was this a response to someone or was this out of nowhere?
Jermaine is on fire lately!!!!!
/cook/
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He also made this tweet just before the one I posted above. Jermaine started to ROCK! bounce/
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@KarlaJorge he was willing to do 10 shows, but that was start of a five-year-plan & more concerts. TII was just the beginning, not end #book
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Jermaine made this tweet today.
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
People in band & inner-circle knew of Michael's plans for the future, and this info challenges common understandings built since 2009 #truth
This is about who knows the hoax imo.
was this a response to someone or was this out of nowhere?
Jermaine is on fire lately!!!!!
/cook/
He was talking about TII and he wrote TII was not the end, it was just the beginning! :D Sounds familiar? He was about to say TII is Thriller II. :mrgreen:
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Oh My God! Oh My God! Oh My God! This is so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally we are getting some answers!!! Thank you soooooooooooooooo much Jermain! /bravo/
Thank you Michael for having mercy on us, at least two questions need no more to be asked! :)
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Has anyone read Jermaine Jackson's long tweet via twitter today? He seemed rather upset....Hmmmmmm /pull hair/
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Has anyone read Jermaine Jackson's long tweet via twitter today? He seemed rather upset....Hmmmmmm /pull hair/
Thanks for mentioning. I put it here so that everyone can read:
I hope the "rent-a-pundits" on TV were listening to this week's lab results that prove there was no Demerol in Michael's body when he died. Finally, the truth comes out to nail the speculative bullshit that has filled air-time by people who prefer to fill in the blanks rather than stick to facts from court: that there is NO evidence of what my brother was 'under' at the time of Murray's audio recording; there is NO evidence that Michael was "addicted" to Propofol as some, like Dr Drew, have guessed; there is NO evidence that Michael's insomnia was linked to Demerol usage (a defense theory).
I have grown tired of the assumptions attached to the audio recording of Michael - the 2+2=5=slurred speech=addict argument that follows some kind of ESPN-style analysis that is not only a travesty to the truth but to the memory of a man who is not here to speak up for himself. This week, the EXPERT evidence shuts up those pundits, ex-friends and attorneys who have seemed determined to paint Michael out to be something he was not in the years before his death.
I'll say it again: events in 1993 and 2001/02 have nothing to do with my brother's death in 2009. Michael was not an addict. He was an insomniac desperate for sleep. We endure this evidence because we want answers -- and this vindication from the lab results is one of those irrefutable answers.
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Very interesting tweet by JJ. Thanks for sharing.
He had nothing to say about the tribute in Cardiff today?
Blessings :)
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I hope the "rent-a-pundits" on TV were listening to this week's lab results that prove there was no Demerol in Michael's body when he died. Finally, the truth comes out to nail the speculative bullshit that has filled air-time by people who prefer to fill in the blanks rather than stick to facts from court: that there is NO evidence of what my brother was 'under' at the time of Murray's audio recording; there is NO evidence that Michael was "addicted" to Propofol as some, like Dr Drew, have guessed; there is NO evidence that Michael's insomnia was linked to Demerol usage (a defense theory).
I have grown tired of the assumptions attached to the audio recording of Michael - the 2+2=5=slurred speech=addict argument that follows some kind of ESPN-style analysis that is not only a travesty to the truth but to the memory of a man who is not here to speak up for himself. This week, the EXPERT evidence shuts up those pundits, ex-friends and attorneys who have seemed determined to paint Michael out to be something he was not in the years before his death.
I'll say it again: events in 1993 and 2001/02 have nothing to do with my brother's death in 2009. Michael was not an addict. He was an insomniac desperate for sleep. We endure this evidence because we want answers -- and this vindication from the lab results is one of those irrefutable answers.
/bravo/
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Has anyone read Jermaine Jackson's long tweet via twitter today? He seemed rather upset....Hmmmmmm /pull hair/
Thanks for mentioning. I put it here so that everyone can read:
I hope the "rent-a-pundits" on TV were listening to this week's lab results that prove there was no Demerol in Michael's body when he died. Finally, the truth comes out to nail the speculative bullshit that has filled air-time by people who prefer to fill in the blanks rather than stick to facts from court: that there is NO evidence of what my brother was 'under' at the time of Murray's audio recording; there is NO evidence that Michael was "addicted" to Propofol as some, like Dr Drew, have guessed; there is NO evidence that Michael's insomnia was linked to Demerol usage (a defense theory).
I have grown tired of the assumptions attached to the audio recording of Michael - the 2+2=5=slurred speech=addict argument that follows some kind of ESPN-style analysis that is not only a travesty to the truth but to the memory of a man who is not here to speak up for himself. This week, the EXPERT evidence shuts up those pundits, ex-friends and attorneys who have seemed determined to paint Michael out to be something he was not in the years before his death.
I'll say it again: events in 1993 and 2001/02 have nothing to do with my brother's death in 2009. Michael was not an addict. He was an insomniac desperate for sleep. We endure this evidence because we want answers -- and this vindication from the lab results is one of those irrefutable answers.
No problem. ;))
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Is it just me or... When I read what Jermaine wrote, I felt ''Back'' way of talking but in easier words.... I don't know the way he formulated his sentence, I had an interesting feeling... And I am one of those who did study a lot ''Back'' since we have known of his existence... Am I the only one who got this strange feeling???? And the way he gets angry, also remind me of ''Back''... and Front...?
And assumptions... Did we hear this word a lot from ''Back and front''?
Has anyone read Jermaine Jackson's long tweet via twitter today? He seemed rather upset....Hmmmmmm /pull hair/
Thanks for mentioning. I put it here so that everyone can read:
I hope the "rent-a-pundits" on TV were listening to this week's lab results that prove there was no Demerol in Michael's body when he died. Finally, the truth comes out to nail the speculative bullshit that has filled air-time by people who prefer to fill in the blanks rather than stick to facts from court: that there is NO evidence of what my brother was 'under' at the time of Murray's audio recording; there is NO evidence that Michael was "addicted" to Propofol as some, like Dr Drew, have guessed; there is NO evidence that Michael's insomnia was linked to Demerol usage (a defense theory).
I have grown tired of the assumptions attached to the audio recording of Michael - the 2+2=5=slurred speech=addict argument that follows some kind of ESPN-style analysis that is not only a travesty to the truth but to the memory of a man who is not here to speak up for himself. This week, the EXPERT evidence shuts up those pundits, ex-friends and attorneys who have seemed determined to paint Michael out to be something he was not in the years before his death.
I'll say it again: events in 1993 and 2001/02 have nothing to do with my brother's death in 2009. Michael was not an addict. He was an insomniac desperate for sleep. We endure this evidence because we want answers -- and this vindication from the lab results is one of those irrefutable answers.
No problem. ;))
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@Julia142 yes I had the same feeling, the "rent-a-pundits" somehow reminded me of the "single issue dissecters"...I'm not saying it's not Jermaine who wrote that though.
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Great tweet from Jermaine! I wonder the same, why no mention of MJ Tribute?
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Yup, I too had the feeling of Back and Front in this tweet.
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Jermaine RTed this tweet.
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1193252544/Author_pic_normal.jpg)SteveDennis71 Steve Dennis
RTed by jermjackson5
Dr Metzger: MJ's insomnia dated back 15-20yrs. Had problem "coming down" on tour. Just as @jermjackson5 called it..not Demerol-linked #truth
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Re trial, Dr Metzger confirmed what I've said all along: Michael's insomnia was historic & tour/pressure induced. Nothing to do w/Demerol...
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Many artists unable to turn off mind will empathize with this insomnia. Michael slept ok when not performing. In bed around 9pm...and slept
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Jermaine RTed this tweet.
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1193252544/Author_pic_normal.jpg)SteveDennis71 Steve Dennis
RTed by jermjackson5
Dr Metzger: MJ's insomnia dated back 15-20yrs. Had problem "coming down" on tour. Just as @jermjackson5 called it..not Demerol-linked #truth
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Re trial, Dr Metzger confirmed what I've said all along: Michael's insomnia was historic & tour/pressure induced. Nothing to do w/Demerol...
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Many artists unable to turn off mind will empathize with this insomnia. Michael slept ok when not performing. In bed around 9pm...and slept
He was going to bed at 9pm? Everything has to be related with making 6 upside down and 9, right Jermaine? geek/
And Demerol? I thought it was Propofol? He wasn't taking Demerol / Propofol for sleeping, so why was he taking it? For nothing. He wasn't even taking it at all. Jermaine is about to spill it. :mrgreen:
Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking Demerol! geek/
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/bravo/ /bravo/ Jermaine, thank you for giving us clues here.. Finally we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I understand Michael not be able to sleep. My line of work is not a piece of cake, I am not an entertainer singer, dancer etc.. NO thank God They would have thrown vegetables on me I cannot carry a tune lolol/ lolol/. But my mind is always working, to find a solution for my patients. It is not easy to be a therapist, you need to focus on the problem, it is not that simple to tell a patient go home take 2 tylenol and your worries will be all gone. I do lose sleep over my patient.. So imagine Michael, he hasn't done a concert since his molestation trial, even before that. Only this can make a person stop sleeping. I do not believe Michael took propofol, nor demerol. Maybe some sleeping pills, to help him. Again I am so happy Jermaine is coming out again.. blessings to the Jacksons, and all of us in this forum..
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Jermaine RTed this tweet.
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1193252544/Author_pic_normal.jpg)SteveDennis71 Steve Dennis
RTed by jermjackson5
Dr Metzger: MJ's insomnia dated back 15-20yrs. Had problem "coming down" on tour. Just as @jermjackson5 called it..not Demerol-linked #truth
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Re trial, Dr Metzger confirmed what I've said all along: Michael's insomnia was historic & tour/pressure induced. Nothing to do w/Demerol...
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Many artists unable to turn off mind will empathize with this insomnia. Michael slept ok when not performing. In bed around 9pm...and slept
He was going to bed at 9pm? Everything has to be related with making 6 upside down and 9, right Jermaine? geek/
And Demerol? I thought it was Propofol? He wasn't taking Demerol / Propofol for sleeping, so why was he taking it? For nothing. He wasn't even taking it at all. Jermaine is about to spill it. :mrgreen:
Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking Demerol! geek/
lolol/
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/bravo/ /bravo/ Jermaine, thank you for giving us clues here.. Finally we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. I understand Michael not be able to sleep. My line of work is not a piece of cake, I am not an entertainer singer, dancer etc.. NO thank God They would have thrown vegetables on me I cannot carry a tune lolol/ lolol/. But my mind is always working, to find a solution for my patients. It is not easy to be a therapist, you need to focus on the problem, it is not that simple to tell a patient go home take 2 tylenol and your worries will be all gone. I do lose sleep over my patient.. So imagine Michael, he hasn't done a concert since his molestation trial, even before that. Only this can make a person stop sleeping. I do not believe Michael took propofol, nor demerol. Maybe some sleeping pills, to help him. Again I am so happy Jermaine is coming out again.. blessings to the Jacksons, and all of us in this forum..
[/q /bravo/uote]
/bravo/ /bravo/
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Jermaine RTed this tweet.
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1193252544/Author_pic_normal.jpg)SteveDennis71 Steve Dennis
RTed by jermjackson5
Dr Metzger: MJ's insomnia dated back 15-20yrs. Had problem "coming down" on tour. Just as @jermjackson5 called it..not Demerol-linked #truth
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Re trial, Dr Metzger confirmed what I've said all along: Michael's insomnia was historic & tour/pressure induced. Nothing to do w/Demerol...
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Many artists unable to turn off mind will empathize with this insomnia. Michael slept ok when not performing. In bed around 9pm...and slept
What a great b-day gift ...such a tweeting surprise! LoL. Helped a lot the way I was feeling last night about that whole illuminati thing and being skeptic. Did you also catch when Jermaine said "I'll RETURN when the swelling and pain subsides......" ??? I'm sure he really did have a tooth problem, but just wanted to throw that in there. albino/ ;D :D ;))
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(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Defense's hollow point from AEG's Randy Phillips -- that Amir wouldn't let him speak with Michael because he'd just returned from Dr Klein -- is a pointless smokescreen. It is normal for someone to be groggy after dermatological treatments. Same way I was 'doped up' and out of it after my dental treatment at weekend. These treatments for Michael, over a period of weeks, prove NOTHING but two facts: a) he visited Dr Klein for established dermatological reasons and b) most of us are not fit to speak with anyone after invasive medical procedures @HLNTV @CNN @InSession #murraytrial #smokescreen
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(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Defense's hollow point from AEG's Randy Phillips -- that Amir wouldn't let him speak with Michael because he'd just returned from Dr Klein -- is a pointless smokescreen. It is normal for someone to be groggy after dermatological treatments. Same way I was 'doped up' and out of it after my dental treatment at weekend. These treatments for Michael, over a period of weeks, prove NOTHING but two facts: a) he visited Dr Klein for established dermatological reasons and b) most of us are not fit to speak with anyone after invasive medical procedures @HLNTV @CNN @InSession #murraytrial #smokescreen
So, Murray's trial is just a smokescreen! Thank you for the clue Jermaine. /bravo/
Smokescreen: 1- An action or statement used to conceal actual plans or intentions.
2- Something said or done in order to hide the truth
/woohoo/
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(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Defense's hollow point from AEG's Randy Phillips -- that Amir wouldn't let him speak with Michael because he'd just returned from Dr Klein -- is a pointless smokescreen. It is normal for someone to be groggy after dermatological treatments. Same way I was 'doped up' and out of it after my dental treatment at weekend. These treatments for Michael, over a period of weeks, prove NOTHING but two facts: a) he visited Dr Klein for established dermatological reasons and b) most of us are not fit to speak with anyone after invasive medical procedures @HLNTV @CNN @InSession #murraytrial #smokescreen
This tweet can be linked to what what Front said:
Perplexities often arise when one becomes discombobulated by uncertainties, which results in blindly feeling around in the dark. When KEY factors and "whispers" are utilized to further one's understanding, it is only then that one is propelled towards enLIGHTenment.
DOubt is indeed the greatest self-motivator, for it is the driving force behind the desire to obtain facts & truth. However, when one's realization of facts are obscured by external smoke-screens, it often obliterates the current path.
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(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Defense's hollow point from AEG's Randy Phillips -- that Amir wouldn't let him speak with Michael because he'd just returned from Dr Klein -- is a pointless smokescreen. It is normal for someone to be groggy after dermatological treatments. Same way I was 'doped up' and out of it after my dental treatment at weekend. These treatments for Michael, over a period of weeks, prove NOTHING but two facts: a) he visited Dr Klein for established dermatological reasons and b) most of us are not fit to speak with anyone after invasive medical procedures @HLNTV @CNN @InSession #murraytrial #smokescreen
This tweet can be linked to what what Front said:
Perplexities often arise when one becomes discombobulated by uncertainties, which results in blindly feeling around in the dark. When KEY factors and "whispers" are utilized to further one's understanding, it is only then that one is propelled towards enLIGHTenment.
DOubt is indeed the greatest self-motivator, for it is the driving force behind the desire to obtain facts & truth. However, when one's realization of facts are obscured by external smoke-screens, it often obliterates the current path.
Indeed! :mrgreen:
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Jermaine RTed this tweet.
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1193252544/Author_pic_normal.jpg)SteveDennis71 Steve Dennis
RTed by jermjackson5
Dr Metzger: MJ's insomnia dated back 15-20yrs. Had problem "coming down" on tour. Just as @jermjackson5 called it..not Demerol-linked #truth
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Re trial, Dr Metzger confirmed what I've said all along: Michael's insomnia was historic & tour/pressure induced. Nothing to do w/Demerol...
(http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1043367392/Twitter_Profile_Pic_normal.JPG) jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
Many artists unable to turn off mind will empathize with this insomnia. Michael slept ok when not performing. In bed around 9pm...and slept
He was going to bed at 9pm? Everything has to be related with making 6 upside down and 9, right Jermaine? geek/
And Demerol? I thought it was Propofol? He wasn't taking Demerol / Propofol for sleeping, so why was he taking it? For nothing. He wasn't even taking it at all. Jermaine is about to spill it. :mrgreen:
Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking Demerol! geek/
It was propofol but after Michael died immediately everyone was saying demerol because of the song Morphine and everyone assumed that he was a demerol addict. In that song he spoke in 1st 2nd and third person if I recall and I don't think it was autobio or most of it wasn't. I think most of it was a message to someone like many singers do. Just my opinion. But anyways, immediately following Michael's death all kinds of stuff in the press. There was even a UK rag that said right after his death that demerol and oxycontin were found in his system. They made it up. I remember the news playing the song "Morphine" and talking about the "disturbing" lyrics. I was a little annoyed. That is one of my favorite songs. I just love the arrangement. I love all of them really. Hard to choose. Can't. Love his work when he's angry and love the ballads too.
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Love it! Thanks for posting
And thank you Jermaine!
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Love you Jermaine!
In court today Dr. Lee said when she watched MJ sleep that one night he did sleep for 5 hours and then woke up all without drugs. Tons of people sleep that amount per night, and can function okay, maybe catch up more sleep eventually. When I’m excited about something (often through the years) I don’t sleep and maybe catch 2-3 hours. But in 2 or 3 nights the body will be so exhausted it will konk out easily. I think her testimony proves to me this insomnia thing is a hoax storyline. They’re always trying to make MJ sound weird or abnormal but as far as sleep, he sounds completely normal
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
As we look forward, let us now forever remember & focus on the life and goodness -- not the death -- of Michael
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Love you Jermaine!
In court today Dr. Lee said when she watched MJ sleep that one night he did sleep for 5 hours and then woke up all without drugs. Tons of people sleep that amount per night, and can function okay, maybe catch up more sleep eventually. When I’m excited about something (often through the years) I don’t sleep and maybe catch 2-3 hours. But in 2 or 3 nights the body will be so exhausted it will konk out easily. I think her testimony proves to me this insomnia thing is a hoax storyline. They’re always trying to make MJ sound weird or abnormal but as far as sleep, he sounds completely normal
There have been many nights since June 25, 2009 where I've slept 5 hours or less. And for years I survived on 6 hours per night. I thought the same thing when I heard Dr Lee - what she said didn't sound like he had a problem sleeping to me.
Right now he's probably sleeping better than any of us.
Jermaine's latest tweet is directing us back again to vindication for MJ. That's just my opinion.
Blessings
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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I was so happy to see his tweet this morning! That's my twitter (@TheVogueRogue). Lame name I know but it sounded good at the time, lol.
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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I was so happy to see his tweet this morning! That's my twitter (@TheVogueRogue). Lame name I know but it sounded good at the time, lol.
party/
:lol:
It's a really cool coincidence! geek/
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I really like Jermaine very much. I guess he stood by Michael and tried to help him as much as he could. I sometimes wonder why people criticize him so much. Anyway, good work Jermaine, God bless you. I wish I had a brother like you!
Blessings
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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sounds familiar...thank you Front ::P if Jermain`s next tweet will be something like "Keep watching" I will fall of my chair :lol:
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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sounds familiar...thank you Front ::P if Jermain`s next tweet will be something like "Keep watching" I will fall of my chair :lol:
what I like the most is this: ;)
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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I was so happy to see his tweet this morning! That's my twitter (@TheVogueRogue). Lame name I know but it sounded good at the time, lol.
Hi Andrea - did you ask him a question in particular?
Blessings
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
@
@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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I was so happy to see his tweet this morning! That's my twitter (@TheVogueRogue). Lame name I know but it sounded good at the time, lol.
Hi Andrea - did you ask him a question in particular?
Blessings
I said I loved his book and that I didn't believe in coincidence either - he mentions that a couple of times in the book.
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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I was so happy to see his tweet this morning! That's my twitter (@TheVogueRogue). Lame name I know but it sounded good at the time, lol.
Hi Andrea - did you ask him a question in particular?
Blessings
I said I loved his book and that I didn't believe in coincidence either - he mentions that a couple of times in the book.
Thanks! I don't believe in coincidence either (or cooincidence as BACK says :) )
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@ andrea, thanks for initiating this. very encouraging ;)
@ gina - thank you for sharing.
bearhug
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Jermaine Jackson
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
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@TheVogueRogue Yes! There's no such thing as a coincidence ; )
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I was so happy to see his tweet this morning! That's my twitter (@TheVogueRogue). Lame name I know but it sounded good at the time, lol.
:lol: Love you girl and /woohoo/ for you.
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Thanks PureLove, I love you too! And we know that it's not a coincidence, what Jermaine tweeted. :lol:
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It's been so quiet lately. Maybe this will shake things up a bit. :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red
@jermjackson5
There is also going to be some exciting news to share with you soon...so stayed tuned over the coming days!! : )
@jermjackson5 Hi folks. I've been away from here but keeping busy, writing new chapter for paperback edition of my book #youarenotalonemichael. Out June.
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It's been so quiet lately. Maybe this will shake things up a bit. :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red
@jermjackson5
There is also going to be some exciting news to share with you soon...so stayed tuned over the coming days!! : )
@jermjackson5 Hi folks. I've been away from here but keeping busy, writing new chapter for paperback edition of my book #youarenotalonemichael. Out June.
I'm curious about that extra chapter...
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It's been so quiet lately. Maybe this will shake things up a bit. :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red
@jermjackson5
There is also going to be some exciting news to share with you soon...so stayed tuned over the coming days!! : )
@jermjackson5 Hi folks. I've been away from here but keeping busy, writing new chapter for paperback edition of my book #youarenotalonemichael. Out June.
I'm curious about that extra chapter...
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heart u jermie xx
:smiley_abuv:
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I am curious what he will add, too..I look forward to that :)
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hmmm now I'm curious. :suspect:
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In a few days...hmm well Easter weekend is next. So hopefully soon! Jackie also posted this on the 31st:
@JackieJackson5
I'm so excited to announce the first official Twitter account for The Jacksons! Make sure to follow @Jacksons for the latest news & updates!
Which RT's Jermaines tweet.
Who knows, I'm hoping something about a tribute or gift or message to fans for their support. That would be a great start for a return. ;D
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@MJNotAlone Two weeks until release of @jermjackson5's UK paperback inc bonus chapter. You pre-ordered your copy yet? You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother's Eyes: Amazon.co.uk: Jermaine Jackson: Books (http://amzn.to/KRP2X5) #MJFam
Retweeted by Jermaine Jackson
5:58 PM - 8 Jun 12 via Twitter for BlackBerry® · Details
So two weeks will be the 22nd... or maybe by the 25th. Wonder what new clue could be in this chapter. :icon_e_confused:
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@MJNotAlone Two weeks until release of @jermjackson5's UK paperback inc bonus chapter. You pre-ordered your copy yet? You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother's Eyes: Amazon.co.uk: Jermaine Jackson: Books (http://amzn.to/KRP2X5) #MJFam
Retweeted by Jermaine Jackson
5:58 PM - 8 Jun 12 via Twitter for BlackBerry® · Details
So two weeks will be the 22nd... or maybe by the 25th. Wonder what new clue could be in this chapter. :icon_e_confused:
thank you mindseye or thirdeye :icon_lol: finally we have the answer from Jermaine. I am very curious what that chapter will be about!
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@MJNotAlone Two weeks until release of @jermjackson5's UK paperback inc bonus chapter. You pre-ordered your copy yet? You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother's Eyes: Amazon.co.uk: Jermaine Jackson: Books (http://amzn.to/KRP2X5) #MJFam
Retweeted by Jermaine Jackson
5:58 PM - 8 Jun 12 via Twitter for BlackBerry® · Details
So two weeks will be the 22nd... or maybe by the 25th. Wonder what new clue could be in this chapter. :icon_e_confused:
thank you mindseye or thirdeye :icon_lol: finally we have the answer from Jermaine. I am very curious what that chapter will be about!
*aussie shuts her laptop and runs out the door to order her copy at the book store*
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@MJNotAlone Two weeks until release of @jermjackson5's UK paperback inc bonus chapter. You pre-ordered your copy yet? You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother's Eyes: Amazon.co.uk: Jermaine Jackson: Books (http://amzn.to/KRP2X5) #MJFam
Retweeted by Jermaine Jackson
5:58 PM - 8 Jun 12 via Twitter for BlackBerry® · Details
So two weeks will be the 22nd... or maybe by the 25th. Wonder what new clue could be in this chapter. :icon_e_confused:
thank you mindseye or thirdeye :icon_lol: finally we have the answer from Jermaine. I am very curious what that chapter will be about!
ok nobody yell at me cause maybe i am just crazy but where does this picture come from? to me it looks like the back of his head has one type of hair and the front another. i don't mean any kind of offense to michael it just doesn't look right.
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Just got through listening to Jermaine interview with someone in England.. New chapter to deal with responses in Murray trial plus a secret witness that can't be revealed? I'll post the link:
Jermaine Jackson@jermjackson5
Hear me on UK radio! RT @gordonwise Great i/v with @jermjackson5 from Magic radio by @AngieGreaves #YANA Jermaine Jackson Pt 1 - You Are Not Alone and The Jackson's Tour by Angie Greaves on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://bit.ly/OObJel)
Well cause I still SUUCKKK at computer stuff, :computer-losy-smiley: not sure if that will work but on his Twitter account (above) it is a post dated 6/15.
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Just got through listening to Jermaine interview with someone in England.. New chapter to deal with responses in Murray trial plus a secret witness that can't be revealed? I'll post the link:
Jermaine Jackson@jermjackson5
Hear me on UK radio! RT @gordonwise Great i/v with @jermjackson5 from Magic radio by @AngieGreaves #YANA Jermaine Jackson Pt 1 - You Are Not Alone and The Jackson's Tour by Angie Greaves on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://bit.ly/OObJel)
Well cause I still SUUCKKK at computer stuff, :computer-losy-smiley: not sure if that will work but on his Twitter account (above) it is a post dated 6/15.
That was a great interview - thank you for sharing this with us. I really believe that Jermaine is protective of Michael and doing his best to help clean up the damage that the allegations caused while showing the world who Michael really is. I am very interested in knowing who that secret witness is...
Blessings
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I wish I had a brother like Jermain!
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I hear Jermaine says a "surprise witness" and that he can't say. hmmm :suspect:
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I hear Jermaine says a "surprise witness" and that he can't say. hmmm :suspect:
:suspect: June 25 is approaching...... :icon_razz: :icon_bounce: :icon_e_wink:
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I wish I had a brother like Jermain!
lol
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What are you lolling at SEHF?
He is a caring brother, no doubt. I know that many people have a different opinion about him. But I respect him so much for what he has done so far to protect and help his brother. Dosn't that count at all? Way to go, Jermaine.
By the way, your turtle is hiding now. Have you noticed that?
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Whatever is happening, it's brought to the surface.... again. :suspect:
@jermjackson5
Sadly, TMZ reflects a rush to judgment on Twitter that grasps at face-value information...and truth and context suffer
@jermjackson5
The truth is that Mother DID suffer a mini-stroke some months ago. She is fine now, but the timeline doesn't alter the fact it happened
@jermjackson5
As Paris tonight clarified, she earlier rushed to end Twitter talk that Mother is ill TODAY, but Paris didn't expose any "lie" as @TMZ claim
@jermjackson5
This is a serious matter that has been weighed carefully, including taking into account Michael's thoughts and feelings when he was alive
@jermjackson5
Re our letter to Estate: while fans only have limited info right now, we ask for patience because much is yet to emerge in this jigsaw...
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Whatever is happening, it's brought to the surface.... again. :suspect:
@jermjackson5
Sadly, TMZ reflects a rush to judgment on Twitter that grasps at face-value information...and truth and context suffer
@jermjackson5
The truth is that Mother DID suffer a mini-stroke some months ago. She is fine now, but the timeline doesn't alter the fact it happened
@jermjackson5
As Paris tonight clarified, she earlier rushed to end Twitter talk that Mother is ill TODAY, but Paris didn't expose any "lie" as @TMZ claim
@jermjackson5
This is a serious matter that has been weighed carefully, including taking into account Michael's thoughts and feelings when he was alive
@jermjackson5
Re our letter to Estate: while fans only have limited info right now, we ask for patience because much is yet to emerge in this jigsaw...
Interesting...
That bolded part of the tweet reminds me of the line in the letter sent to Branca "...and further revealed in the coming weeks"
Something is in the wind.
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Novel by chapters
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Jigsaw = hoax
:michael-jackson: :michael-jackson: :michael-jackson:
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Am I missing something or did that bonus chapter never materialize?
If not, then This Is It.
Lol.
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Am I missing something or did that bonus chapter never materialize?
If not, then This Is It.
Lol.
So is Bec! the family is giving a lot of talk these days, we are left with the promise of what's to come. :woohoo2:
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Sounds like the same thing as:
Jermaine Jackson Remember This Is not Really It - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-My8PJO3qTs)
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Sounds like the same thing as:
Jermaine Jackson Remember This Is not Really It - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-My8PJO3qTs)
I have always loved this clip of Jermaine. The "Sony Side-Step" and "TVBS" crack me up........
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I don't know if this link will work. Amazon UK has what I think is the extra chapter, called The Final Word, September 2011, on its 'look inside' feature. I'm reading it now.
You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother's Eyes: Amazon.co.uk: Jermaine Jackson: Books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0007435681/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d16_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=06HDW474JHS48AR2H7V2&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128293&pf_rd_i=468294#reader_0007435681)
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Jigsaw=A Game
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I don't know if this link will work. Amazon UK has what I think is the extra chapter, called The Final Word, September 2011, on its 'look inside' feature. I'm reading it now.
You Are Not Alone: Michael, Through a Brother's Eyes: Amazon.co.uk: Jermaine Jackson: Books (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0007435681/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d16_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=06HDW474JHS48AR2H7V2&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128293&pf_rd_i=468294#reader_0007435681)
thanks for posting this Curls. i've just read this chapter... very well written. There's a lot about vindicating, justice and the media.
Only a few sentences look hoax related to me...
"The world only viewed half the movie with the trial of Conrad Murray. The full picture is yet to be seen.
… motive behind Mother’s civil action against AEG … they believed the negligence was accumulative, and extended beyond one doctor on one night. … we cannot find closure unless we first subject certain matters to scrutiny and extract the answers."
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Jermaine was just on twitter answering questions...
I thank the vast majority of you for your messages of love and support. The bullcrap of speculators and deflectors is just background noise
Paris was responding to Twitter wildfire that inaccurately suggested Mother had a mini-stroke in the past week @RealJayVee
@KingMikeJ It is a prescribed rest for an 82-year-old lady, not a vacation. Everything else you raise is a misinformed rumor
This is our mother and her health is paramount. We are not inventing or plotting anything. We are following doctor's advice. Period.
I want to reassure everyone (inc all sudden medical experts) that Mother is fine but is resting up in AZ on the orders of a doctor, not us
@Muzikfactorytwo however you split "some months ago" and "recently", your semantics change nothing about fact Mother suffered a mini-stroke
@jermjackson5
Outsiders, from Alan Duke to TMZ "sources", can clutch at straws all day long but no-one can tell us about events concerning our own mother
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So tonight it’s a rest in Arizona and not a vacation. :icon_question: I don’t know which is the truth, I only hope that Mrs. Jackson is okay. This has really gotten very ugly.
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Last night Jermaine retweeted
@PJ4MJJ
"I just know that this is not a family that does the kinds of things that are being reported." ~Thomas Mesereau
Maybe the family is waiting for John Branca and John McClain to release a statement or file papers or... idk, before their next move. *thriller* :icon_geek:
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3h Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5
You all have families. Sometimes it gets complicated. Whatever happens, whatever is said, we are family, we are One, we will heal
Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5
I will now repeat what I told the fans from the stage tonight...
Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5
Correcting @TMZ... I didn't travel alone to Saratoga for tonight's show, I flew with the brothers
So Jermaine has been reading TMZ reports...lol
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3h Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5
You all have families. Sometimes it gets complicated. Whatever happens, whatever is said, we are family, we are One, we will heal [/]
:icon_eek: :affraid: :icon_bounce:
Coincidence or not, I'm loving IT! & it gives me the CHILLS & THRILLS !! :icon_bounce:
@2good was this posted by Jermaine 3 hours ago?
Last night (15 hours ago) I posted this new cover photo on my FB page with Presley & Jackson families and I wrote the same quote from Michael, look here...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/onefamily.jpg)
Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5
Correcting @TMZ... I didn't travel alone to Saratoga for tonight's show, I flew with the brothers
So Jermaine has been reading TMZ reports...lol
ohh But of course!! :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
Tks for sharing @2good :bearhug:
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So, the distance between LA and Saratoga is a about 5 hours drive. The brothers flew. Did Katherine and the kids fly too or drive? I ask because supposedly Katherine drove back from Tucson which is about an 8 hour trip and I still wonder why she didn't fly if it would only be a 1 hour trip to fly. For someone who's supposed to rest, being in a car isn't very restful. JMO.
Sim - that seems like odd timing if "someone" is not reading the boards. :)
Blessings
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Jermaine Jackson (@jermjackson5)
Yesterday, I had a phone call with my son Jaafar that broke my heart. He asked: "Is it true that we cannot visit grandmother's house as a family anymore?" Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch. Accordingly, I rescind my signature from the letter which was sent to the Estate, and which should never have gone public. I still hold deep reservations about many issues involving the Estate, and I will continue to bring scrutiny and a resolute voice wherever we have cause for concern. But the way to address such matters is through the proper channels and via a private dialogue, not public conflict. Whatever the tabloid and on-line misrepresentations have led people to believe, my primary concern has only ever been rooted in the welfare of our mother in the environment where she lives. No-one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events and I, like everyone in the family, adore the ground she walks on. We are also still raw from the loss of Michael three years ago. The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him. So when it comes to the well-being of loved ones, and especially our mother, we are perhaps understandably and unapologetically over-protective. As attorney Perry Sanders has since confirmed, a health check detected high blood pressure with Mother. Rest was the sole reason she went to Arizona. Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest-up, because we all come from the same caring place. When she was away, and with the children in the responsible care of Tito's son TJ, there was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need. This was why we went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother. We were denied that access by security -- and it was clear that mutual suspicions had allowed events to spiral out of control. I regret that events were ever allowed to reach such a stage. I regret any distress caused to Prince, Paris and Blanket. That was never, ever the intention of myself, Janet, Rebbie or Randy. Moving forward, the most effective way to best serve Mother's welfare, and that of Michael's children, is to start a collective dialogue, in private. Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides in a highly-charged emotional environment. It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so. Because above and beyond anything else, what matters...is family.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ikma93 (http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ikma93)
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Just saw this on Jermaine's twitterlonger.
Yesterday, I had a phone call with my son Jaafar that broke my heart. He asked: "Is it true that we cannot visit grandmother's house as a family anymore?" Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch. Accordingly, I rescind my signature from the letter which was sent to the Estate, and which should never have gone public. I still hold deep reservations about many issues involving the Estate, and I will continue to bring scrutiny and a resolute voice wherever we have cause for concern. But the way to address such matters is through the proper channels and via a private dialogue, not public conflict. Whatever the tabloid and on-line misrepresentations have led people to believe, my primary concern has only ever been rooted in the welfare of our mother in the environment where she lives. No-one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events and I, like everyone in the family, adore the ground she walks on. We are also still raw from the loss of Michael three years ago. The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him. So when it comes to the well-being of loved ones, and especially our mother, we are perhaps understandably and unapologetically over-protective. As attorney Perry Sanders has since confirmed, a health check detected high blood pressure with Mother. Rest was the sole reason she went to Arizona. Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest-up, because we all come from the same caring place. When she was away, and with the children in the responsible care of Tito's son TJ, there was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need. This was why we went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother. We were denied that access by security -- and it was clear that mutual suspicions had allowed events to spiral out of control. I regret that events were ever allowed to reach such a stage. I regret any distress caused to Prince, Paris and Blanket. That was never, ever the intention of myself, Janet, Rebbie or Randy. Moving forward, the most effective way to best serve Mother's welfare, and that of Michael's children, is to start a collective dialogue, in private. Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides in a highly-charged emotional environment. It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so. Because above and beyond anything else, what matters...is family.
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Mary...again! you beat me by 53 seconds
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Mary...again! you beat me by 53 seconds
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Better safe than sorry.
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So Jermaine withdraws his signature from the infamous letter and "extends an olive-branch".....TS anyone? :icon_e_wink:
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So Jermaine withdraws his signature from the infamous letter and "extends an olive-branch".....TS anyone? :icon_e_wink:
Good memory :LolLolLolLol:
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We are also still raw from the loss of Michael three years ago. The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him.
Why does Jermaine say that his family is still raw from the loss of Michael when Michael Jackson is clearly alive?
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From Jermaine's long tweet:
"it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war."
"It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so."
I think this is a message to the fans who have been lashing out at the Jackson family and perhaps the state of the world itself. Will they listen this tIME?
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So Jermaine withdraws his signature from the infamous letter and "extends an olive-branch".....TS anyone? :icon_e_wink:
just before i came to read this thread i posted the same at the other thread, we had the same thought, and it's (in spirit) also, i don't know what he meant but to me it felt like it also reverse to TS again :icon_razz:
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So Jermaine withdraws his signature from the infamous letter and "extends an olive-branch".....TS anyone? :icon_e_wink:
just before i came to read this thread i posted the same at the other thread, we had the same thought, and it's (in spirit) also, i don't know what he meant but to me it felt like it also reverse to TS again :icon_razz:
I saw that Shy.
Well maybe what he is trying to say is: Land in sight-Land, ho!
Closer to the dry land after the flood.
The end of the hoax is in sight?
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So Jermaine withdraws his signature from the infamous letter and "extends an olive-branch".....TS anyone? :icon_e_wink:
just before i came to read this thread i posted the same at the other thread, we had the same thought, and it's (in spirit) also, i don't know what he meant but to me it felt like it also reverse to TS again :icon_razz:
Yes, there is definitely some TS AND Front-isms in his latest tweet. The olive leaf in the bird's mouth which showed the flood waters had gone down, nearing the end of their time on the ark...
Agree MaryK, I think the end of the hoax is near!! (just saw your post when I hit preview) We think alike, lol.
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I think Noah sent out a bird three times...the first time it was a raven (or am I wrong?)
the second two times was a dove. Then after he got the branch....he still stayed 7 days on the ark.
*either my Sunday school teacher would proud, or very annoyed right now :icon_lol:
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Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch.
[ . . . ]
Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides in a highly-charged emotional environment. It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing. I truly hope that we can find it in our hearts to do so. Because above and beyond anything else, what matters...is family.
Priceless!
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But you know the best of all this story is that every time a Jackson member say something is addressed to us I feel so proud to be a beLIEver and to be part of this awesome hoax.
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Love this Twitlonger from Jermaine, especially this part:
It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing.
I felt a sense of positivity when I read it. Definitely reminded me of Sign #4 extending the olive branch and also of Front with the time.
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Quote from: Jermaine
Yesterday, I had a phone call with my son Jaafar that broke my heart. He asked: "Is it true that we cannot visit grandmother's house as a family anymore?" Enough has become enough... After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war. In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive-branch.
Yeah! Jermaine gives us a wink, I love, and Noah's Ark TS-Jermaine-Front!
For centuries it has been associated with the olive branch of peace. When the dove returned to Noah, who was waiting in the ark, carrying in its beak an olive leaf as a symbol that the earth was again at peace with God. (See Genesis 8:11.)
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I'm loving this message from Jermaine. I'd love it even more if the word 'baloney' was in there somewhere :icon_lol:
With L.O.V.E. always.
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sweetsunsetwithMJ
But you know the best of all this story is that every time a Jackson member say something is addressed to us I feel so proud to be a beLIEver and to be part of this awesome hoax.
Me too :)
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So Jermaine withdraws his signature from the infamous letter and "extends an olive-branch".....TS anyone? :icon_e_wink:
just before i came to read this thread i posted the same at the other thread, we had the same thought, and it's (in spirit) also, i don't know what he meant but to me it felt like it also reverse to TS again :icon_razz:
I saw that Shy.
Well maybe what he is trying to say is: Land in sight-Land, ho!
Closer to the dry land after the flood.
The end of the hoax is in sight?
Yehaw! like your thought.
L.L.R
Shy
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Love this Twitlonger from Jermaine, especially this part:
It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing.
I felt a sense of positivity when I read it. Definitely reminded me of Sign #4 extending the olive branch and also of Front with the time.
Me too :icon_e_smile:
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Love this Twitlonger from Jermaine, especially this part:
It is time for us all to draw a line in the sand and move towards peace, co-operation, love and healing.
I felt a sense of positivity when I read it. Definitely reminded me of Sign #4 extending the olive branch and also of Front with the time.
Me too :icon_e_smile:
exactly! we have lots of similarities with Front and TS in statements of Jemaine. The future will tell us, hopefully :)
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Jermaine expresses himself very well.
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@jermjackson5
Paperback of my book now released in US: new chapter + unused expert from CM trial. New info slays more myths/lies about Michael
Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5
Wow. Daddy's Home...reading ; ) RT @Jeremy_Horn Tagged: @jermjackson5 @JermaineLaJuane - http://twitpic.com/aj5un9
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Dont know if anyone noticed but.... I find it strange that Jermaine hasnt tweeted ANYTHING in December 5th.
He went from tweeting once a day at least to NOTTA. I mean you can tweet from your phone so I WONDER
how come he hasnt been on... BUT I also find it strange and MAY be a clue that this is what he tweeted last at the very top!!!!
Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5 5 Dec
"I wanted to thankyou for all your love and concern for Joseph. He's going to be fine. He's strong and is never down for long! #bornfighter"
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May be a clue considering the Joe/Joseph names and we know that JOSEPH is the one that died sooooooooooooooooooooo you see where im going
with it?????? What do you all think?
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Dont know if anyone noticed but.... I find it strange that Jermaine hasnt tweeted ANYTHING in December 5th.
He went from tweeting once a day at least to NOTTA. I mean you can tweet from your phone so I WONDER
how come he hasnt been on... BUT I also find it strange and MAY be a clue that this is what he tweeted last at the very top!!!!
Jermaine Jackson @jermjackson5 5 Dec
"I wanted to thankyou for all your love and concern for Joseph. He's going to be fine. He's strong and is never down for long! #bornfighter"
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May be a clue considering the Joe/Joseph names and we know that JOSEPH is the one that died sooooooooooooooooooooo you see where im going
with it?????? What do you all think?
Considering the fact that Joseph didn't really have that cerebral stroke or at least I guess so, you could be right on that because I, as you, was wondering why he stopped tweeting if he has been the slip ups champion of this hoax league.
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Interesting catch Mike! I remember reading that tweet but only applied it to Joe.