Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
General Discussion => General Discussion => The Great Reset, New World Order & Global Mind Control => Topic started by: LOVEYOUMORE on January 07, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
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WE need to spread the word that Michael was trying to spread around the world .
He wanted us to know about the New World Order .... they want to kill us all. They want to depopulize the world. They are killing us by putting dangerous things in out FOOD, WATER AND MEDICATIONS , like the H1N1 flu vaccines, don't get that vaccine .
You need to chech into what Michael was trying to spread through his concert , it was about this society that wants a new world order and they need to kill a lot of us off, I know it sounds crazy and that's why nobody wants to believe it , they control the media and that's why the media attacted Michael.
Please spread his word.
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You need to calm yourself. What you say is true, that if each one tells another the "awareness" is spread. Our best defense is the "awareness of the illusions" around us. We are doing that here, by sorting out media truths or lies. Michael's message has always been there, but we didn't hear, so now his cohorts are forcing us to WAKE UP. I know several hospital employees who refused to take the H1N1 vaccine. I personally only drink bottled spring water from my area. I don't use commercial toothpaste or soap. As for Organically Grown labels, don't believe that either. But mainly it is your responsibility to yourself to pay attention and draw your own conclusions concerning your own health by deciphering what you hear on TV, radio, etc. We have proved here the media is not reliable. But don't freak out. Silvia Brown wrote a book about the illuminati where she says that if each one of us passes the light to the next person that we will light the darkness. "THEY" are extremely out numbered, we are still the majority and our numbers are getting stronger.
Do further research. Your fear will lessen.
xoxoxo
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Do further research. Your fear will lessen.
xoxoxo
I don't know- the more I read the more freaked out or depressed I get..
I know we need to spread the word, I want to badly, but how? Word of mouth? (Cuz I can't even imagine just going 'Hey, Mom, did you know..') Should we start a site? How do we do it without people thinking we're nuttier than an Almond Joy?
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You need to calm yourself. What you say is true, that if each one tells another the "awareness" is spread. Our best defense is the "awareness of the illusions" around us. We are doing that here, by sorting out media truths or lies. Michael's message has always been there, but we didn't hear, so now his cohorts are forcing us to WAKE UP. I know several hospital employees who refused to take the H1N1 vaccine. I personally only drink bottled spring water from my area. I don't use commercial toothpaste or soap. As for Organically Grown labels, don't believe that either. But mainly it is your responsibility to yourself to pay attention and draw your own conclusions concerning your own health by deciphering what you hear on TV, radio, etc. We have proved here the media is not reliable. But don't freak out. Silvia Brown wrote a book about the illuminati where she says that if each one of us passes the light to the next person that we will light the darkness. "THEY" are extremely out numbered, we are still the majority and our numbers are getting stronger.
Do further research. Your fear will lessen.
xoxoxo
EXTREMELY OUTNUMBERED. Fear is what keeps them strong. Lose it.
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Do further research. Your fear will lessen.
xoxoxo
I don't know- the more I read the more freaked out or depressed I get..
I know we need to spread the word, I want to badly, but how? Word of mouth? (Cuz I can't even imagine just going 'Hey, Mom, did you know..') Should we start a site? How do we do it without people thinking we're nuttier than an Almond Joy?
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I know , I try telling everone I know about this NWO thing and they say we'll if the GOVERMENT is out to get us , there's nothing we can do , but this is what Michael was going to tell everyone about on his tour and he wants it out there , so I try , and I believe it.
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I totally believe this also, and have talked to people around me about this. They take it very lightly if at all. It is like beating your head against a wall. But you got it all down in a nutshell the whole agenda... well, you left out the part of them controlling the weather with HAARP electromagnetic waves and projected mind control also with this even the communications satellites can be knocked out with these waves. But yes, this was his message for US.
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I totally believe this also, and have talked to people around me about this. They take it very lightly if at all. It is like beating your head against a wall. But you got it all down in a nutshell the whole agenda... well, you left out the part of them controlling the weather with HAARP electromagnetic waves and projected mind control also with this even the communications satellites can be knocked out with these waves. But yes, this was his message for US.
Totally agree. :roll:
There are a lot of people on twitter spreading information about this, but they are not MJ related people, "yet" I follow quite a few of them on twitter and a few follow me back, so the cross over maybe beginning slowly.
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Let me tell you something about H1N1 Virus!
A friend told me that her doctor has advised her not to vaccinate against the H1N1 virus because the government wanted to take a test because of a drug that might cure HIV it was integrated into the vaccine against H1N1 and they needed many people to make a test. The only way to achieve so many people is to spread how dangerous an illnes can be, so that many people go to a doctor (to vaccinate).
An employee has told me (her husband is a doctor) that they have got a document in which was written that every seasonal flu has to be pronounced as a porcine influenza (is this the right word in endlish? I hope so, hope you understand what I try to say).
I am glad that I did not went to a doctor I did not vaccinate against the so called H1N1 virus. Since the hoax is over I do not hear anything in the media and I am still alieve ;)
There are to many people who did not vaccinated, I think it is good that so many people think critical and draw their own conclusions!
:D ;)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-HN-5m7wo4[/youtube]
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Do further research. Your fear will lessen.
xoxoxo
I don't know- the more I read the more freaked out or depressed I get..
I know we need to spread the word, I want to badly, but how? Word of mouth? (Cuz I can't even imagine just going 'Hey, Mom, did you know..') Should we start a site? How do we do it without people thinking we're nuttier than an Almond Joy?
I have tried to explain the ideas of NWO in another forum and one member (the admistrator) just laugh at me. I do not know how we could do that because many people do not believe that a government can be so cruel. But there are people who do mention how history has always repeated itself and some are learning from that and they are open minded. Those who do not listen do not see what happens in front of them. I think that NWO is true, I think that this development could end up in a dictatorship, no rights. I see it...I have lived in a dectatorship many years and I would not wish a person to make this experiences.
If you know the history you realize what is going on and that we have less and less rights. Democrasy does not really exist and has never really existed.
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The Illuminati feeds fear, I don't see the point in fearing them. Some lunatics who have created this bogus cult.
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I do not know anything about illuminaty, normaly when I hear the name I just think, not again...I think I have to inform myself first, before I make up my mind about this group
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I will definitely spread Michael's message to fight the New World Order! I do get freaked out sometimes when I read more and more about them and their plans especially the Illuminati too but fear can't take over that is what makes them stronger and stronger we are not afraid of them!
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxLY2x7bEvs[/youtube]
Chosen
Order is shattered in a strange gutteral tone resounded along the walls of the houses, which seemed dead and deserted, while, behind the closed shutters, eyes watched the conquerers, who, by right of war, were now masters of the city - of the lives and fortunes of its people.
In their darkened ruins the inhabitants have given way to the same feeling of panic which is aroused by natural cataclysms. Those devestating upheavals of the Earth, against which wisdom and strength alike are of no avail.
For the same feeling is experienced wherever the established order of things is upset, when security ceases to exist, when all that was previously protected by the laws of man or nature is suddenly placed at the mercy of brutal, unreasoning force:
The earthquake, burying a whole people beneath the ruins of their houses; the river in spate, sweeping the bodies of drowned peasants, together with the carcasses of cattle and rafters torn from roofs; or the victorious army slaughtering all who resist, making prisoners of the rest, looting by right of the sword, and thanking their god to the sound of cannon.
All these are terrifying scourges which undermine all our belief in eternal justice and all the trust we have been tought to place in divine protection and human reason.
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All that needs to happen is for people to see the truth. The more that see, the more light will shine and the darkness will fade away to dust. It's about energy and not giving ours to them, by giving them our fear. Look, learn, see and move beyond. Their armies of many forms are full of people who will see the truth and are seeing the truth. There physical control is through them and as they move towards truth, they lose their power.
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I also believe that MJ tried, tries and will try faith with them. He uses their own weapon. PROPAGANDA, SYMBOLS, ALLEGORIES. All we have to do is to learn how to decipher them.
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The Illuminati feeds fear, I don't see the point in fearing them. Some lunatics who have created this bogus cult.
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From what I hear it's bigger then the illuminati and higher up in the society.
It's the top men that control the world and they are about to make their move in 2012.
That's what Michael was trying to warn the world about, yes if we stand together we have a chance but nobody seems to believe it...!
Everyone I tell laughts at me and says this is America, that's why they will be able to get us by surprise.
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The Illuminati feeds fear, I don't see the point in fearing them. Some lunatics who have created this bogus cult.
:roll:
From what I hear it's bigger then the illuminati and higher up in the society.
It's the top men that control the world and they are about to make their move in 2012.
That's what Michael was trying to warn the world about, yes if we stand together we have a chance but nobody seems to believe it...!
Everyone I tell laughts at me and says this is America, that's why they will be able to get us by surprise.
What are they going to do in 2012? I do not know so much about Illuminati but about NWO, so can you please explain?
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I'm very glad to see this thread, and there are some very intelligent and well considered responses here.
Here's my 2 cents:
1) if people laugh at you or call you 'crazy' for any of the NWO / Illuminati theories you may have, do yourself a favor, smile patiently, walk away, do not engage them , send them love and hope that they wake up. By the way, insult and ridicule are two of the 'first response' techniques used by some very sinister organisations.
2)Feel NO fear...on waking up to some of these uncomfortable facts, it's common to think 'Oh my God..I'm powerless' .This is NOT true. Awareness IS power. Look for things like 'the news behind the news' 'but don't get scared, if enough people are aware, they lose the control over us. They rely on fear triggers to keep us passive and afraid. They feed on fear..don't give them nourishment.
Gabriel xx
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Ummm tbh im not following this whole "NWO" thing... Not because im scared, Just because if i am correct people think this is going to happen because michael jackson has warned you about it?
I did some research on michael jackson and NWO and got nothing back connecting him to it.
As for the "we have 4 years to make it right" that would take us to 2013, i think people are looking a bit to much into this
If any of you have prove that michael jackson was trying to warn us about this then please can you post it as i would like to see?
Thanks
L.O.V.E
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Start by reading our blog Leah:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/blog.php)
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But did we ever think why the true about new world order came just in this time???I knew about zeitgeist move and Bilderberg things before MJ ´´died´´ (of course he didt!!If Illuminati or whoever was trying to kill him,that would be 100% clean job and we wouldn´t have ever any doubt!!!!he would be dead without any doubt..believe me..He wants us believe he is allive.)
Why they want us know the true??to keep us waiting,expecting the worst things which can happend??it is more easy to manipulate with us when we feel panic??They kept this secret for many centurys..so why now wants they uncover the true???
And people start to believe on this,,I was trying to post something about NWO and Bilderberg on MJHD forum and ppl didnt want to listen,didnt believe on that..and look at us now..everyone is talking about that...But I still not sure if this is good or bad...Im not sure what is their reason to let us know whats going on....Or is Michael helping us to know that???who has the answers?????????
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I'm afraid if the swine flu vaccine won't work, they'll think up something even worse.
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There are many who see the gradual establishment of a planetary global order (new world order), a conspiracy of the leaders of the "hidden Government". Politicians would be little more than announcers or second row employees. The independence of Nations, an obstacle to overcome, either through specific wars (the invasion of Iraq) or designed economic crisis (Southeast Asia, Latin America), as from a globalist rhetoric under all types of humanitarian or ecological pseudo nonsense (human rights, sustained growth, etc.). Resonance box tend to be the United Nations, a forum of State bureaucracies which is considered the highest body of sovereign legitimacy of policies, facing peoples alienated by television
The Trilateral Commission (David Rockefeller ...), the Bilderberg Club (Rockefeller, Kissinger ...), or the Council on Foreign Relations (Kissinger, Brzezinski ...), are examples of institutions, some of them transnational, operating as forums for meeting and recruitment of new elites who prepare the Pharaonic stage planetary submission in the 21st century.
Judging by current events, the construction of the global state (visible part of the "hidden government"), New World Order (or new world order) seems an unstoppable process.
But, old or new, with adjectives or without them, the conspiracy exists, and we can not afford the naivety of thinking that what is happening in the world is not due to any planning, but is a simple "explosion of disorder" and not Substantial part of the new world order.
"all nerve centers of society are controlled by a regime Which delegates to politicians to carry out decisions already made in advance in places such as the OECD, the World Bank or the IMF".
We are not already in the logic of the market, we are in the "large merchants" ruthless logic.
These are not toys system; perverse system we are your toys. Play with our thoughts and feelings beyond the purely economic Slightest glimmer where not to real freedom to lead to a totalitarian world.
Who governs the world? What leaders of the Group of eight more developed countries on the planet, the G-8 meeting once a year in various places on the planet? Perhaps are the IMF and World Bank "technicians", or perhaps 15 heads of State and Government of the European Union? How who and when taking decisions? Which Final declarations are published at the end of the summits between powerful are often empty, just a bunch of vague Which guidelines do not reflect the course of the world. What where decisions are taken then? Who What develops? Indeed, behind the backdrop of the political-show there a series of almost secret coteries where, without prying, almost without witnesses journalists and even sometimes without women, plays the real target of the world. He is not a "club" religious, not a circle embedded in some strange, mystical or of a group fed by the idea of a universal plot. They are simply powerful secret organizations composed of barons of high finance, strategists, politicians of great flight and military confirmed the judgment Whose existence of the British Finance Minister of Victoria, Disraeli, who wrote: "The World is Governed by characters that can not or imagine those whose eyes do not penetrate behind the scenes ".
The more "unknown" but the most powerful of these organizations the secret Bilderberg. Created in May 1954 at the Bilderberg Oosterbeek in Holland, hotel by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, is a supranational group Bilderberg Whose existence was based on a simple idea: bring together members of NATO, the Atlantic Alliance, so they Harmonize international policy allies. The Bilderberg Group membership becomes confidential contacts and members are strictly prohibited Openly talk about the content of discussions and decisions taken.
Essentially composed of personalities from the world of business, industry and politics, members are selected by their "merit". Though its functioning and its internal organization still being protected by secrecy, it is known that there is a sort of "steering committee (steering committee) consisting of permanent members (from 15 to 18 persons between Americans and Europeans) who are invited and decide of what it is.
Bilderberg is divided between "initiated", in total four members of the club, among them David Rockefeller, "innocent" and sporadic guests at meetings. All characters are not attending summits initiated and they work according to goals are unaware of the same members of the "club". The secret is the rule of thumb, even for journalists receiving sporadic invitations scarce.
The large "Cardinals" of this planetary conclave are owners of banks (Lazard Freres & Co., Barclays, Chase Manhattan Bank, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Societe Generale de Belgique, industrial ,...) UBS administrators group (Unilever, Fiat Daimler-Chrysler, Xerox Company, Lafarge, Total-Fina Elf, Shell, BP Amoco ,...) several Europeans, millionaires Commissioners as Rockefeller and his descendants, responsible institutions of international studies, Secretary General of NATO, leaders of the IMF and the World Bank, as former Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger as influential, senators and intermediaries high flying characters
What is the goal, why join? While that could boast the objective of the meetings of the Bilderberg Club is Primarily make a good agenda appropriate phone to ask for favors, concurrent politicians, who sit on their willow surrounded by so much elegance, power and money and that developers will benefit at the time, giving a ring when needed, the real question, probably Trasciende this purpose, the functioning of the system indicates that the final balance sheets of banks and corporations, financial flows and the heritage of privileged families, dynasties and magnates numbers and to tax havens , depend on centrally, the result of specific policy options and even military interventions Repressive or violent actions.
Power and money are arguments more than sufficient to hide what you want, the immense well-being enjoying a few may suffer enormous changes with the open knowledge of decisions Arising from these forums and should take in democracy. When a small elite, with such accumulation of power and wealth meets to discuss, not to do with Hermeticism that happens, the world in its current figure of misery and deficiencies, deserves an explanation of what they try. Do not need to be Futurist to predict Which brings not only new, more frequent and bloody clashes and these shall not, between extremist or terrorist and Governments, but between citizens and privileged groups clarified Which, far from any democratic conviction, determine life, freedom and rights of millions
What is good for banks and big business is good for the well-being of humanity, so think The majority of current leaders in the West, financial strategists and foreign policy world who attend Bilderberg and from that point of view, gather to refine and strength a virtual general agreement To strengthen this illusion of globalization, defined under its conditions. :evil:
The fear is free, and that's why they try to consolidate, not to be feared if we all raise our voice, what will they do?, I know that is not easy, but not impossible :geek:
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Some of you might want to check out the shows that former Governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura is doing on a variety of these and related subjects.
The link takes you to snippets of the shows -- I don't know if the full episodes are on the web.
http://www.trutv.com/shows/conspiracy_theory/video.html (http://www.trutv.com/shows/conspiracy_theory/video.html)
PS I just checked and the episodes are posted on you tube. Just type in "conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura" and it will list all of the various episodes/topics.
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city.gal1, and also look what I found on the Internet:
The United States. UU. being installed bases in Colombia. Troops will be there to Eradicate drug for those who are not part of your poster and protecting the drug barons who wash their money from American and European banks.
Jesse Ventura, a former champion of wrestling that became independent, Governor of Minnesota in 1998 just launched a TV program called "Conspiracy Theory" which had the largest audience have had a program one at its beginning, with 1.6 million viewers. The success of the program has made that the press has devoted a large space.
Interviewed for the program of Alex Jones, a veteran journalist and filmmaker, and responded to this question and comment Jones:
Do you know that the CIA caught it with opium in South Asia, in Vietnam? We are in Colombia, install bases. Anywhere where there are drugs, there are our troops, Eradicating drug of others and protecting the drug barons who wash their money from American and European banks.
Thus, Ventura answers:
I am aware of that it is the CIA gets revenue to hide its operations of the Congress, if requested the money since Congress, plays will be open and let you know what they are doing with the money. But if get money from illegal drugs, do not have to declare the money before Congress and so do their dirty work, of which the American people will never know.
Jones: Governor Jesse Ventura, you have taken in white, absolutely, I had happened accentuate even point is. All those billions of dollars without control ...
Ventura: Used them to not having to be accountable to the Congress.
Jones: Completely true, in 1976, this appeared on C-SPAN, where the CIA Inspector General Witness of how the CIA introduced crack cocaine epidemic ...
Ventura: You know about this, Alex, I do not know, I can only speak of what I know ...
Jones: But you also know as just mentioned that "black operations" they funded by this means
Ventura: I know that for a long time; Malthus not the public learns. In this way can Obtain money to political, as in ancient times, when trying to kill Fidel Castro assassinations. If get money from Congress, they must submit reports (...) but if raise money by other means, of drugs, dirty money can spend it on anything they want and do not have to be accountable to the American people or Congress why.
A former agent of the DEA, Michael Levine has fully confirmed the accusations. According to him the heads of Government (U.S.) are corrupt and amangualadas with traffickers. Levine claims that Gary Webb (a journalist), reported that the CIA introduced immense Quantities of cocaine in Los Angeles, Which were then distributed by all the USA.
According to research by Webb, the CIA flooded black neighborhoods of Los Angeles with crack cocaine to get money for their dirty operations. Above is documented in the book of Webb, "Dark Alliance" (Alliance black) Obtained explaining how the CIA money and weapons to their operations. There also condemned terrorist Cuban Which was part of that network: Luis Posada Carriles and his Accomplices, also Cuban. (Webb appeared dead on 10 December 2004 with two bullet shots in the back of his head after making the complaint in the "San Jose Mercury News" newspaper, The Authorities accordingly concluded that "had committed suicide").
Levine, one of the most decorated players in the history of the DEA, eventually learned that his own agency was not interested in not only Eradicating drug, but trafficked them. Levine was an agent disguised by 25 years and learned all the goings of the drug world. This lived it in own meat and documented it in the book: "Deep Cover". There Relates how, as I was to arrest large fish of drug trafficking, gave their own chiefs order do not. Disgusted Renounce the DEA in 1989. Levine denounces how was betrayed by his own men and by the CIA and says: "The war on drugs is a cynical covered to carry out covert operations in abroad. States that since Levine began to tell the truth, has been threatened by high-level DEA agents and has been the target of campaigns to discredit him.
Further, Levine unconditionally claims that: "The CIA has long supported people and organizations responsible for filling drug this country (the United States.)" (US). "Over and over again I discovered that several persons against Which We were trying to present a case against him were viewed as collaborators of the CIA." Levine explains clearly why the call war on drugs is a total sham for the consumption of a population of the brain washed by communication means such that truly believes that such war is taking place, when it is exactly the opposite: "war on drugs is a fraud ", says," for many reasons, but basically Because his main focus, the interdiction to control supply, may not work. " Men in suit and tie (DEA agents) in charge of this mission, you know. Everything is accomplished Carried out to try to reduce the supply of narcotics is the drug barons to more enriched and occasional shipment capture enriched the careers of few politicians and bureaucrats. At the same time, drug users still manage to find their sources of drug and human lives that are destroying. (A brother of Levine died at age 19, victim of the drug). "The fundamental problem with the war on drugs is that both sides are gaining, drug barons and men of suit and tie, Because both are doing business of the century".
And Levine is right, the drug business capital moves to between 500 billion and trillion dollars per year, an annual amount greater than the oil and natural gas together and twice as the automobile industry. The fact that the largest military apparatus in the world, in the United States. U.s. with its budget of hundreds of billions of dollars, is unable to control the entry of drugs to the United States. UU. It is completely ridiculous.
The involvement of the CIA in drug trafficking is fully documented, starting in France between 1947 and 1951 and in Southeast Asia in the 1950s. Since then have been dealing with drugs from Indochina to Panama and Colombia by throughout Central America.
Afghanistan, under American occupation has become the leading provider of opium and heroin in Europe. The cultivation of the poppy was virtually Eradicate under the Taliban, and "mysteriously" was revived afteIn summary, Álvaro Uribe Velez, the Colombian Noriega or Karsai, has gifted the American on a silver plate base 7 or more to continue the charade that their Efforts to Eradicate drug trafficking, when what is happening is what otherwise. The complaints against the DEA and CIA are serious, come from within the organizations themselves and by agents that have compelling evidence that the real business of the American is not the drug eradication but control and distribution. The money earned in drug trafficking will surely be put to good use: to destabilize or Overthrow of legitimately elected governments in Latin Americar the U.S. invasion. UU. :o
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Kenny on Oprah about phone call with Michael: Apparently Michael is asking him several times if he is awake now. (A wake up call?) MJ: ‘’We need fireflies!’’ KO: ‘’I kindda looked it up’’… ‘’Bioluminescent’’… ‘’A creature, a species that have the ability to its own biological make up to eliminate itself – Michael Jackson.’’
Hence the lyrics of This Is It: ‘’I’m the light of the world I feel grand’’. (MJ is a true light of the world.)
KO: ‘’He had been channeling’’…’’a higher person was working through him’’ KO asks if he can ask the higher person to work through him later when they get to London … ‘’Then He’s (God is working through Michael) gonna give the ideas to prince!’’
KO ends this story by saying that Michael loves Prince and mentions the song Purple Rain.
Here’s a selection of lines from the lyrics of Purple Rain:
‘’I never meant to cause you any sorrow, I never meant to cause you any pain’’… ‘’Honey I know, I know, I know times are changing’’… ‘’You say you want a leader’’ … ‘’Let me guide you to the purple rain’’… ‘’If you know what I’m singing about up here. C’mon raise your hand’’… ‘’I only want to see you, only want to see you’’. (Michael to lead us).
KO: ‘’Michael really wanted to do something special. For the last couple of years we’ve been talking about finding the right project. That had to have meaning and real purpose behind it.
You know for him to wanna do something and when he called me he said ‘’This Is It’’.
I don’t think Michael was ever part of the Illuminati even in his younger days. But I think they tried to invite him and have him spread their messages. They work through our sub consciousness through music, movies, politics etc. Michael might have found out they were using evil methods and had evil plans and broke free, of their plans. But he must have been involved somehow since they tried to control him. Maybe they wanted him to send out their evil messages and he refused. I don’t know.
It is certain that Michael always fought for a better world with love. And it is certain that someone was out to get him. I think they tried to control him. They are racist, evil men controlling the governments working towards their New World Order. Maybe Michael was going to expose of them. I believe Michael planned for his escape for many years – and that he plans to return. I really think he got away. I pray he is in a safe place. He outsmarted them. And he will come back and fight with us for a free world. I believe that God works through Michael.
As some has pointed out the Illuminati symbols have shown up around Michael. And the Illuminati do control most of the music (especially rap and pop) industry and Hollywood. Cause this is what we relate to and identify us self with. This goes especially for the youth who are very easy to ‘mold’. They control who gets to the top and who doesn’t.
Michael said several times that there were conspiracy against him (and his people). Also, he said that ever since he broke all the record sales records they started spreading bad words about him, trying to turn the public against him. He also referred to Mottola as the devil and said that Sony never thought that he would outthink them. And why would he say that if it weren’t true? I never doubted Michael. He is all about truth and love. Michael is very strong.
They were after Michael because he had such a strong impact on so many millions of people all over the world. I believe they saw that as a threat to their NWO plans.
All those (us) followers of Michael because of love, it might have been too much for them if he did not do as they dictate. We love Michael not only for the beautiful music and astonishing performances – we love him deeply for his deep loving soul, his wisdom, his strong and giving personality and the loving messages he gives to the world. That is what we truly identify with.
Said in the Koran, the Torah, and the Bible, the savior will come back in great time of change and He will fight for us and for the free world. Michael will come back to the right time to show the world how we all have been manipulated and lied to, and He will help the people of the world. But to the people:
You have got to OPEN YOUR EYES! THE WORLD IS NOT WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE! We are being lured into the darkness through manipulation from the bad people whom are pulling the strings of all their puppets – entertainers as well as politicians.
Some people just want popularity, power and money. And they will do anything to get it. Even sell their soul to the devil (hence the song ‘’Money’’).
They get their success and in return let the Illuminati string them.
Michael is a lot more than just the music. He was a danger to them.
For those of you who never knew about these conspiracies of NWO before watching the Zeitgeist films go to this link to learn more: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 600562261# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261#)
Here you will find videos from Alex Jones. Scary stuff I know... And in this category you also find Michal Jackson’s film ‘Ghosts’.
If you are not that much into hours of documentary (though I really think you owe it to yourself and the world to take the time to look in to it) you may also (once more) watch the more ‘entertaining’ films like The Matrix, V for Vendetta or The Lord Of The Rings trilogy – You were warned. The world is not what it seems, it’s barely a reality that is being pulled over your eyes. We need a revolution to avoid the fascist one world government. The All Seeing Eye is everywhere trying to lead us in to slavery and darkness.
It’s a long term plan they have had going on. They are working towards the NWO. To them it is not about the money. They already have all the money in the world. All they care about is power and control. And their plan is working. Once they have it, once they gain full control there will no ending it. Like Michael said: ‘’THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE’’.
WAKE UP! WE ARE LOSING TIME! Say no to the satanic slavery. Say no to evil. Say no to control.
To those who still think the Illuminati is a bogus. Think for a minute of the Middle age… How the church used the most horrible methods to gain control of the people. Through fire they took advantage of the peoples fear. They blinded the people to the truth through manipulation as they deceivingly called themselves ‘’the men of God’’. What makes you think that with an adjustment in methods they wouldn’t be able to perform this evil on us today? Why do you think they could not control the world from behind the scenes? - Because that is what they make you believe!
And if still not good enough for you who don’t believe… You might want to take the time to look up Leo Zagami. He is former Illuminati even of Illuminati bloodline. And he can tell some pretty scary stuff on child sacrifices and the work towards a New World Order.
This is not the world of God and love! This is a world of evil! And we must stand up to our fears and fight the evil forces. They control through the fear. We must overcome that.They shall not win their endgame! We are warned!
I believe in mankind. I believe in humanity. I believe in the right to be your own. I believe that the truth will prevail. Follow the rabbit to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. WAKE UP!
You might now want to ask – Where is God then? And God is in us! ‘’It starts with us!’’.
Seek the Lord and you shall find. Follow Michael! Follow the King and He shall lead you in the fight for freedom. Maybe Michael had to leave to make us see his prophecy.
It’s all for love... L.O.V.E.
Power to the people! To all of the people. Make that change. Fight back with love and respect.
(I wrote this comment with all respect to other opinions. No matter what your opinion on this subject (or any other subject for that matter) – though I advise you to look into it and also do your own research – I still love you only for the fact that you are a person and we are all one in the same world.
But you must not forget that far from everyone sees you or the world that way so watch out – evil might be lurking just around the next corner).
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TinkerbellStardust , I concurred with you, the problem is that most of these issues are not discussed, and some people believe or think that there is no such a thing can not happen, we must talk a lot about this and that people will have eyes, as you wrote that power is of the people and the rulers are not to do as they please, they are the sevice of the people who elect. :geek:
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agree
what a coincidence... i was just searching the internet... it already started when Hitler had the control.
Farmatic company Bayer worked already with Joseph Mengele (sorry i only have the Dutch article)..
I know there is some poster from Brazil right? Please can you confirm if there is in Brazi a little village where lives a lot of twins?????
See the connection???? Twin tower, 911, twin experiments...
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It is light, there are videos in the cemetery where you can appreciate the same;
Josef Mengele, the angel of death, the Nazi doctor who did experiments on twins at Auschwitz concentration camp during World War II, whose mission was to create a master race fit for the Third Reich, he arrived in 1963 to Cândido Godói ( Brazil), a small village of Rio Grande do Sul border with Argentina. Since then, the twin birth rate that is four times the world average people
The disturbing assumption that Mengele has continued with his "job" well into the 60s in a village of German immigrants in southern Brazil, is raised in the recent book, Mengele. The Angel of Death in South America, the Argentine journalist Jorge Camarasa, who covers the doctor's years of exile in Argentina, Paraguay and Brazil, since his escape from Europe in 1949 until his death in a beach near San Pablo thirty years later .
Cândido Godói is a German agricultural colony where the inhabitants still remember the way the doctor at Auschwitz, where multiple births have been converted into a tourist attraction, every two years celebrated the Feast of the Twins
The phenomenon has been studied by geneticists Brazilians, Europeans and Americans, who have rendered it impossible to explain it scientifically: Cândido Godói in the proportion of twin births is one in five births, and the rest of the world is of each twenty. Its inhabitants, descendants of Germans from the region Hunsrüick, keep their language and customs borne by the pioneers in the early twentieth century, and the village is a model of social order without slums, violence and unemployment.
What is the scientific explanation for the phenomenon of double concentration of births in the village? Despite the attempts made, no one has yet managed to speak with certainty.
Biologist Ursula Matte, Hospital de Clinicas de Porto Alegre and the University of Rio Grande do Sul, made a genealogical and genetic study of all pairs of twins and found that 67% of them were dizygotic, ie heterogeneous produced by two embryos, and the remaining 33% were homozygous, that is the same, the same sex and fruit from the same embryo.
The first conclusion that emerged from his study, in the '90s, was that it looked like a case of inheritance, since she is usually associated with monozygotic twins. He also ruled out the chance factor, dismissing it could be a natural coincidence which had clustered in the region of Cândido Godói many families with a genetic predisposition to having twins. Furthermore, although one might think in a grouping of such individuals, living in one place and marrying among neighbors, almost no exodus and without the inclusion of new settlers, lived for many years in the same place and breed many children, a fact proved most curious: from the 80s, the number of births of twins tended to decrease rather than increase or remain as they did 20 years earlier.
The first evidence of the presence of Josef Mengele in the area of Cândido Godói refer to 1963. The area that included moving the people of Santo Cristo, Cerro Largo, Linha San Antonio, San Pedro de Butia and Cândido Godói, plus the small villages and farms on the sides of the roads traveled.
Not much time anywhere, had no fixed address, came and went all the time, and everything suggests that, at least initially, he lived in Paraguay, home of the Krug family, and he returned there after from visits Rio Grande.
Are vague and diffuse the things he did: as a dentist-patient treatment or rural doctor, meetings with locals who are presented as a veterinarian to talk about artificial insemination, nocturnal visits to the house of a woman.
But are concrete figures: the highest rates of twin births in the area of Cândido Godói recorded since 1963, when comes a flood of twin births.
Today, if the ghost of Josef Mengele was behind this unusual case is still latent in the area.
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Here's a link to a 2-hour speech by David Icke (The Robot's Rebellion) given in 1996, some 14 years ago. Knowing what we know now, knowing what has happened in the world after this speech makes it especially interesting
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4418546593480294563&ei=6zVTS9vZFZyO2ALs36S5DQ#docid=-8885080649248037742
He referres to a document called "Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars" dated from 1979 (The whole document can be googled). Here's some of what is also quoted in the Icke's speech:
"DIVERSION, THE PRIMARY STRATEGY
Experience has prevent that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of the basic system principles on the one hand, while keeping them confused, disorganized, and distracted with matters of no real importance on the other hand.
This is achieved by:
(1) disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity.
(2) engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by:
(a) unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way of constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media – especially the T.V. and the newspapers.
(b) giving them what they desire – in excess – “junk food for thought” – and depriving them of what they really need.
(3) rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.
These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social automation technology.
The general rule is that there is a profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions.
DIVERSION SUMMARY
Media: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and captivated by matters of no real importance.
Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law, and real history.
Entertainment: Keep the public entertainment below a sixth-grade level.
Work: Keep the public busy, busy, busy, with no time to think; back on the farm with the other animals."
Think about the tv today, the music industry, Hollywood. Demands in working life
How about life at work? Busy, busy, busy... that's what they want. After work, many are so tired they can barely speak to or enjoy time with their spouses and kids. Everyone rather spends time staring at some sort of a screen..
So far things have only gotten worse from 1996. But the number of ppl who have woken up is growing rapidly... Michael's "death" and TIAI woke some up, h1n1 woke some up, climategate some more, etc..
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a site by an aussie called Max. He has videos/mp3's of the exact same themes that are discussed here, and he has very nice, calm delivery and manners.
Lots of love,
Linda
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ok i believe in this completely but everytime i explain it someone they tell me how i know this and i said the interenet...and their reply is, " if they are truly in control why dont they eliminate everythin off the internet about them, i dont think they would want their info and plans in front of their victims." so they dont believe me because of that one statement!! what do i say to a comment like that
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i fear nothing but God, but i make sure that im aware of things as much as i can be. this new world order stuff is real, and my Bible speaks of it. faith, hope, and love are the things (commandments) Jesus left us with, but the greatest of these is LOVE, and that is what michaels message is, and for unity for what is right and helping others.we dont have to fear the new world order, only fear the One who is in charge of where your soul will end up, in Heaven, or an everlasting fire. im not trying to make anyone see my way of things, because God gave us all free will, but we dont have to fear man. this is what our michael is about. he is a soldier, and a true man of, and a gift from God, and i will continue to spread his message, of truth, unity, love, and family, and to stand up for what you believe in. alone we may not be much, but together we form a mighty strong fist. 8-). army of L.O.V.E.
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The information in the New World Order.
If you look at the role of blogs in disseminating news that otherwise would not get the public through the media siege by political and financial information created by oligopolies. In this sense, blogs are not just an air of freedom outside of censorship in the field of media, but are not considered news through traditional media in its many units, they dare not to publish, distribute or publish. As blogs are a source of first order in both the preservation of historical memory, as in a different interpretation is not interested or biased or events. Siglo XXI called "participatory journalism" has become all citizens in the transmission of their history and their specific experiences in faithful transmitter of a present that precedes the past.
Throughout the world, witnessing a process of corporate-financial-media concentration and media conglomerates. The danger is a real lack of pluralism, since the emissions report closed oligopoly, in practice results in
distribution of a single thought in the political, economic, cultural and ethical, characterized by a progressive radicalization immanentism anthropocentric ahorn and brutalize people. This thought only vertically imposed and defended by powerful propaganda machine really is transmuted into pure Stalinism abandoned in the ditch in that dares to disagree with or be contrary to the imposition
doctrinal we are still under fire from political correctness invades
"All spheres of public life: politics, economics, morality, [itself] of the media, education, science, art, religion and of course, language (...) and includes discrimination, repression, injustice, prejudice, exclusion, marginalization by race, gender or minority group, environmentalism, multilingual education, sexual orientation, opposition to capitalism, the rule of man, animal rights and social class.
The message is concise: you do not believe, I think about you.
Another problem lies in the adjuvant saturation above information, too much data, but always in the mind and unilateral dominant line.
Internet, specifically blogs, podcasts and online newspapers, not the online versions of newspapers that simply dump their news from print editions, remains the new journalism and the method of growing and continuing influence of information beyond the control of large publishers, there are many senders and receivers and to ensure freedom of expression. The original environment and impartiality required of the treatment goal of the event without subjecting lackeys "loyalty" or ideological or economic, it seems more assured. In this line, said David Rojo, co-editor of digital journalist, in a recent interview in The New York Times: "we are no fears of people power, we have no shame (...) We must loyalties to anyone." David own red "label to its competitors as the traditional print and 'rotten'" because of their dependence and servitude to the great interests.
Internet bothers to power because they can not control, so the regulation, a euphemism for censorship, gradual crescendo and going global. To control the mass and the consequent elimination of the individual, collective interests of gregarious, Fleecy and mediocrity is essential domination, manipulation and control of the media. Much of the Internet information is not mainstream and therefore call beyond the remote control of large groups of creators of information, communication and entertainment makers and opinion, ideas, beliefs and culture of their own bodies . The lawsuit attracted by these media to digital media, primarily for online newspapers and blogs, "respectable, trustworthy, credible and rigorous as the written press" at least ironic, precisely because they violate this
what it proclaims. In the plain "advice" means submitting to the dictates and to comply with the ideologies imposed dens, finance and corporate lobbyists, sweeping away the principles relating to the natural order and the common good as a service and religion relegated to the nature of humans.
People act according to the dictates of power politics or the media. The voice of the masses is the voice of the owners of the media are those that create and shape public opinion, choose and impose ideological guidelines that drive the masses.
The traditional media: television, radio and newspapers are the vehicle of social manipulation by which the powers of society are heard; sift reality and creation, instruction, guidance and transform the family. His freedom is mere appearance, is linked, through banks and grant funding covert political boot or by advertisers, advertising agencies, as they can save or sink half
Blogs plot against.
Opponents argue mainly blogs that the blog author on the parapet of anonymity to launch their attacks and attacks, a continued lack of journalistic rigor and quality ethics contained in blogs is deplorable, it lacks credibility. Antonio Burgos he writes on his Web op - ed on ABC:
"In the worst things (...) read blogs and without any evidence. Many junk. Cowardice of anonymity. Territory of impunity. What was banditry Sierra is now plain blogs. More disturbing, random and dangerous (.. .) is now going on blogs and do not know what I find. They can steal the fame, honor, credibility. The truth
is jointly every minute. Nobody knows what intentions (...) where everything is seated fundamentalism and its 'nick' (...) is imposing a general aesthetics of virtual blog and something that is sad: the ethics of the Forum. What is the total lack of ethics.
Try to refute what was written. With the accusation of lack of identification with the company, often using anonymous "nick" is a requirement and prerequisite to spread without danger or fear of reprisals real information of what happens in a particular place on the planet. Besides the guarantee of confidentiality and opinions strangers is also a guarantee against absolute power, even covered under the pretext of democracy, who can legally or illegally, chasing, suppress him or his plush estate. And the press often uses pseudonyms refuge in anonymity, in reality has always been used as a technique in journalism have columnists anonymous paper. The novelty of the blogosphere is that the power to create public opinion under a corporation has expanded the business to the individual citizen journalism.
Did the opinion, reasoning, thinking, share knowledge and debate is the exclusive privilege of the journalist? Being a journalist is not a necessary support, and has nothing to do with the ideas shown and less of its validity. The bloggers have managed to create a different and way of disseminating information outside the usual lines of macro and corporate media has more supporters. Only between online newspapers and blogs, breaking the monopoly of official opinion and their lackeys, the professional "opinion leaders" paid and the media empires to serve any area of power
Do not accept a general disqualification of blogs citing poor quality and lack of credibility. The quality of content and there and count all depends, like the rest of the media, the information provided. Even what pamphleteer and more blatant manipulation of information and misinformation and biased according to a strategy and spurious interests certainly appears in some blogs, but almost exclusively by big media to respond faithfully to the big political and economic interests. Internet freedom is undeniable. The blogger does not rely on the media
conventional, is not bought by any means, do not have to defend specific interests, nor be dominated by the ideas of multiculturalism and cultural relativism underlying axiological and political correctness, or obtain cash settlements. By contrast, the traditional media but lack the crucial and always demands: independence [10]. Independence walking hand in hand with credibility. Televisions, radios and newspapers mostly act as tentacles of power and
safeguard their business interests and ideological service without
scruples poisoning information or propaganda vehicle of expression as the maximum systematic Leninist organizations against violence, against the soul, a lie. "Everything is perfectly filtered, processed and tested to bring the body, wrapped in mediocrity, has its share of totalitarian indoctrination and sheepish, disinformation and manipulative, hide information, news and entertainment.
The blog is the only way that the ordinary citizen to be heard, the vehicle of expression and the amplifier dynamic reality that has a smooth and firsthand. "Anyone with a computer and connecting your computer can make your own paper [or blog] and show what they want, [allowing each reader] can say what they think about living"
The blog as a form of communication has an enormous effect on the recovery and salvation of historical memory in a society where the media imprisoned son of the interests of politico-economic conglomerates
But to power these guerrilla nuisance separate keyboard, not kidnapped or subject, or by agents of regime change, not always like what the blog is, in fact, often are catalysts for the propagators and widespread discontent and a reality show do not want to cross borders. Internet Freedom of speech is like a continuous bleeding wound, a hole in the iron grip of consciousness, therefore, the repressive political machine has begun to prosecute and punish even with years of prison, where China, Pakistan or Iran, these new dissidents for news and views. That's why several initiatives that were born to oxygenate and denounce these attacks as the Committee for the Defense of Blogeros or Free Culture.
Also the political parties, their propaganda machine, unofficially and camouflage on condition of anonymity, made allegations and expose "the dirty laundry of his opponents" not reality
in the case of blogs, and less hard on coverage of the media.
The classic journalism has become more interactive concept of journalism, cyber - where the person on foot, not related to journalism or communication and disseminates information and exchange of views, so that
"Today, many news (...) are always people who have nothing to do with the practice of journalism or reporting function, but nevertheless, give opinions, report, narrate, and publish the facts and take role he has always identified a journalist. "
This so-called participatory journalism, in which weblogs are champions, the Internet is growing exponentially in the torque developed in them a new type of alternative journalism, which should help maintain the historical memory and pluralism of the desired information. :geek:
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WE need to spread the word that Michael was trying to spread around the world .
He wanted us to know about the New World Order .... they want to kill us all. They want to depopulize the world. They are killing us by putting dangerous things in out FOOD, WATER AND MEDICATIONS , like the H1N1 flu vaccines, don't get that vaccine .
You need to chech into what Michael was trying to spread through his concert , it was about this society that wants a new world order and they need to kill a lot of us off, I know it sounds crazy and that's why nobody wants to believe it , they control the media and that's why the media attacted Michael.
Please spread his word. L.O.V.E.
jahtruth.net/plan.htm
READ THIS , IT WILL EDUCATE US .
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WE need to spread the word that Michael was trying to spread around the world .
He wanted us to know about the New World Order .... they want to kill us all. They want to depopulize the world. They are killing us by putting dangerous things in out FOOD, WATER AND MEDICATIONS , like the H1N1 flu vaccines, don't get that vaccine .
You need to chech into what Michael was trying to spread through his concert , it was about this society that wants a new world order and they need to kill a lot of us off, I know it sounds crazy and that's why nobody wants to believe it , they control the media and that's why the media attacted Michael.
Please spread his word.
This is the movie .... V
I have heard that Michael might have been involved with the making of this movie , it's sort of about the NWO .
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=VISRRU4V (http://www.megavideo.com/?v=VISRRU4V)
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WE need to spread the word that Michael was trying to spread around the world .
He wanted us to know about the New World Order .... they want to kill us all. They want to depopulize the world. They are killing us by putting dangerous things in out FOOD, WATER AND MEDICATIONS , like the H1N1 flu vaccines, don't get that vaccine .
You need to chech into what Michael was trying to spread through his concert , it was about this society that wants a new world order and they need to kill a lot of us off, I know it sounds crazy and that's why nobody wants to believe it , they control the media and that's why the media attacted Michael.
Please spread his word.
Today at work they put up a posting for free H1N1 flu vaccines if you want the vaccines sign the list. I could not believe the people that sign up to get the vaccines. I tryed to tell them not to but they sign up anyway I told them you don't know what is in that vaccine. They asked me if I was going to get the shot I told them on way
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SAME HERE!!! i was trying so hard to convince my family not to get that vaccine...My step father almost died after getting that shot!! he got the H1N1 right after getting that shot and we found him passed out in the bathroom barely breathing! He had severe pnemonia in both lungs and was in the hospital for 4 days!! this was like 6 or 7 days after he got that vaccine...They said it was because it was probably in his system already before getting the shot...I was Like HELL NAW i not getting near that needle... I have a strong immune system my body knows what to do i aint relying on ANY drug no way hoe! My body is a crazy creation that knows how to tak care of itself...
i think medicine makes your immune system weaker i really do...i think it makes ur body more dependent on drugs to fight sicknesses honestly i do!!
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Wow i_need YoU!
I´m really really sorry about your step father.
I´ve spent many many hours last autumn trying to warn people and spreading about the flu vaccine, and about Jane Burgermeister suing WHO, Baxter, US and other governments and institutions.
People if they don´t awake they are smart enough to don´t fear the flu, but they don´t buy that someone is trying to kill as many as possible. They just want to sleep well, so they buy that there´s no risk from flu nor from vaccine.
I´ve done my investigation about NWO, Bilderberg, CFR, Trilateral... a long time ago.
It´s a long time that I went through all this emotions.
It´s hard, as awakenning always is.
But to those of you who are fearing now, I can assure that different mods an points of view arrive with time. More calm, more aware. I´ve been watching news and things going on around us, from this perspetive, for some years now. And it´s quite an experience, because of the bad and good things.
You don´t have to read news and investigate to know what happened or why one politic haven´t avoid this or the other... Everything fits, and you now why for the first time. So you don´t waste anymore time and energy (best of all) getting upset because you can´t explain yourself how can they be so ineffective, why this party now defends this... many things.
So you expend your new time to learn more, you´re own way, and going stright to the point, linking the details. (You link more and more dots).
There are moments like Haiti now. You hear the late nite last news, about an earthquake, that is going to be the breakfast for every sleeping people, and you say, OMG, not again SOAB!
Then you go stright to the point, and now really fast, that aid is not arriving and they are taking people money for charity, and that they are going to invade it and take advantage from it, and criminalize victims... and, not in this case but others, cut your rights further.
Or this plane crash in Atlantic with Dreifus and Dreyer there and they say nothing... wasting our money to rescate a plane they knocked down... even many awake people didn´t connected this one.
:( Or saddly for me, when late at nite here, I heard about MJ passing.
My mpm, who buys it all in tabloids, came running to me and told me.
This was my face: :shock:
I said no way, such a young person who cares that much about health!!!
I thought they were magnifying a rumor or a not big deal during late nite show to have the pick. I took me absent-minded to connect it.
Then I followed UCLA... till the anouncement, then I thought again F SOAFB!!!
What the hell have they done! :evil:
Then reading about this report of the supposed Sorcha Faal (she is a CIA Oops group) saying that according to KGB Mike was murdered with EMR because of the flu warnning he was giving. They´re really good messing around and even making you think at a time, that you´re wronly working for them, I mean doing what they want you to (but don´t doubt, if you think, we´re working on awakenning and they don´t want it, they just can mess).
Some times it´s really hard trying to warn people for they sake and having an answer of craziness accusation, or this magical label, conspiracy "theory". You have to hide a part of yourself, your thoughts, it´s more comfortable but it´s hard. You don´t know how people can go on as nothing happens.
But I also had great moments. When you try softly to talk about this to someone and you see that he agrees. You start saying that is the same one party than another, and this person goes further and you see he could be interested, and start to talk, and in fact he is, and starts to ask for information...
Great moments also with NWO forums working hard and meeting people.
Many many times, they just don´t get want they want, they are really annoying but NOT ALMIGHTY. So you laugh. As it happened with flu (of course some uses it to say you were mad, nothing happened with the vaccine. But they were going to declare it mandatory ,and people now cannot realize it... but thanks to god!)
And I also had wonderful moments, like when I realized that all of you started to point on that, so I could express it here. I think a lot of people like me, have been here wishing this happened. This is the nicer NWO forum I ever met, and a easy place to put together the problem and the solution. L.O.V.E. (in the vibrational meaning, so full).
And what I´m realizing now is that with him warning us (biggest audience in the world), is the Butterfly Effect that MJ fans can provoque. I´ve seen this awakenning growing exponentially before, this is the next step, so this is a BAM! There will be more, bigger and bigger.
So my advice is try people first and give them the dose of info you see they want. You can work on it step by step with your most loved people.
And take yourself a rest from time to time. It enforces and gives new perspectives and lets mature thoughts.
Really, really sorry for the length, but I had to share this hope to all of you who need and want.
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If the first thing to do is talk about this shot with our families, I already did, also with my friends so slowly people are informed. Here the vaccine begin to apply in February and will start in the Poorest neighborhoods, I hope this does not happen :shock:
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Talking to people about the NWO and what has been being done to us, is not an easy task by any means!
I tried last night to talk to my little sister (she's 24 and lives with us) She is a physiology major and she got angry with me and told me I needed professional help. She said I was not thinking clearly and she was worried about me. I tried to not let it anger me but when she said I needed help it mad me mad! She is naive and does not think that evil like that exists in this world. She also says that everything I am saying goes against everything she has been taught in her studies. She told me she didn't want to talk about it ever again. And if I didn't stop talking this nonsense that someone was going to want to have me committed!! Grrrr....
Same thing with my oldest son (he's 21)I tried talking to him tonight. There was a show on the history channel we were watching about the end of the world. He kept saying what a crock of crap it all was and that anyone who believed in it was nuts. I told him it was happening and what I have read about the NWO and things and he laughed at me. He said "Mom I love you but you have lost it with all this Michael Jackson garbage." I told him he was so wrong and it saddened me that he couldn't just open his mind to find this stuff out himself and he said "no thanks". He say's he does not believe in God and all that stuff. I just wanted to cry!!
So there is two I have tried to talk to and open their eyes and I get told I'm nuts! This is so hard to do...not wonder Michael had to fake his death to get anyone to pay attention!! All I can do is keep my faith in God and keep on my mission of making sure I live everyday like it's my last....treat people around me with Love & Compassion...and be the person that God wants me to be.
Anyone else having this hard of time getting through to people?
Love & Peace to all...God Bless you!! :)
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Hi MJ_ForeverandAlways, have you read my post up?
I know it´s long, but please, read it, it may make you feel better.
What you tell is a perfect example of what I said.
You feel alone and trying to aware your loved and you have an attack as a response.
That´s the way it is.
I have lunch every day watching news, and seeing how they build them to sell it, and how it succeed, and my mom buys it all. That´s horrible. Those Images on news prooves nothing but...
Your sister says it´s all against what she´s been taugh at school... OF COURSE!!!
It´s like the film Invasion of the Body Snatchers, you´re not invaded and have to pretend you´re one of them... have to keep with your life as if you knew nothing about this and do what you can.
The worst moments come with your own family, and it´s because you love them and try hard...
Try just a comment here and there at the right moment and when something happens.
Try to use the more strict logic with them and lean it on news like when govern supports banks while people starving and so on. Now you don´t need to look for any more proof, but they need them.
Things like Kissinger Report or The book of Rome, or Gladio Operation documentary may help, if they accept to read it or at least listening about it. Don´t use NWO stuff. Its plenty of disinfo and many of it is made by the NWO itself to discredit. It tell the whole picture, but it´s useful to us, but not for non belivers. Use History Channel or any credited source stuff. It prooves less, but is more usefull for non believers... step by step. Understand that the whoooole picture is hard to believe suddenly.
Anyway I don´t understand why people believes that conspiracies have always been there except now??? And then 20 years ahead, someone tells all in a documentary and then they believe. People are past conspiracies believers, they have a chip to don´t accept current.
It´s really hard and takes time.
If all of us now start as mad people talking intensively about this, we´re going to discredit ourselves.
(It´s like "look all these crazy fans, saying MJ is alive and the world is conspiracy". That´s the way it´s all established). I´ve seen it hundreds of times before.
So, ok, now you know, calm down and spread little pills and keep the secret of our huge deal.
Hope and patience for all.
L.O.V.E.
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Very detailed and interesting comments .... I agree that the true, great message of Michael Jackson is just that.
Awareness is power, the people are millions and millions, and "they" are outnumbered.
Governments are having to fear the people, remember? :roll:
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There are many who see the gradual establishment of a planetary global order (new world order), a conspiracy of the leaders of the "hidden Government". Politicians would be little more than announcers or second row employees. The independence of Nations, an obstacle to overcome, either through specific wars (the invasion of Iraq) or designed economic crisis (Southeast Asia, Latin America), as from a globalist rhetoric under all types of humanitarian or ecological pseudo nonsense (human rights, sustained growth, etc.). Resonance box tend to be the United Nations, a forum of State bureaucracies which is considered the highest body of sovereign legitimacy of policies, facing peoples alienated by television
The Trilateral Commission (David Rockefeller ...), the Bilderberg Club (Rockefeller, Kissinger ...), or the Council on Foreign Relations (Kissinger, Brzezinski ...), are examples of institutions, some of them transnational, operating as forums for meeting and recruitment of new elites who prepare the Pharaonic stage planetary submission in the 21st century.
Judging by current events, the construction of the global state (visible part of the "hidden government"), New World Order (or new world order) seems an unstoppable process.
But, old or new, with adjectives or without them, the conspiracy exists, and we can not afford the naivety of thinking that what is happening in the world is not due to any planning, but is a simple "explosion of disorder" and not Substantial part of the new world order.
"all nerve centers of society are controlled by a regime Which delegates to politicians to carry out decisions already made in advance in places such as the OECD, the World Bank or the IMF".
We are not already in the logic of the market, we are in the "large merchants" ruthless logic.
These are not toys system; perverse system we are your toys. Play with our thoughts and feelings beyond the purely economic Slightest glimmer where not to real freedom to lead to a totalitarian world.
Who governs the world? What leaders of the Group of eight more developed countries on the planet, the G-8 meeting once a year in various places on the planet? Perhaps are the IMF and World Bank "technicians", or perhaps 15 heads of State and Government of the European Union? How who and when taking decisions? Which Final declarations are published at the end of the summits between powerful are often empty, just a bunch of vague Which guidelines do not reflect the course of the world. What where decisions are taken then? Who What develops? Indeed, behind the backdrop of the political-show there a series of almost secret coteries where, without prying, almost without witnesses journalists and even sometimes without women, plays the real target of the world. He is not a "club" religious, not a circle embedded in some strange, mystical or of a group fed by the idea of a universal plot. They are simply powerful secret organizations composed of barons of high finance, strategists, politicians of great flight and military confirmed the judgment Whose existence of the British Finance Minister of Victoria, Disraeli, who wrote: "The World is Governed by characters that can not or imagine those whose eyes do not penetrate behind the scenes ".
The more "unknown" but the most powerful of these organizations the secret Bilderberg. Created in May 1954 at the Bilderberg Oosterbeek in Holland, hotel by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, is a supranational group Bilderberg Whose existence was based on a simple idea: bring together members of NATO, the Atlantic Alliance, so they Harmonize international policy allies. The Bilderberg Group membership becomes confidential contacts and members are strictly prohibited Openly talk about the content of discussions and decisions taken.
Essentially composed of personalities from the world of business, industry and politics, members are selected by their "merit". Though its functioning and its internal organization still being protected by secrecy, it is known that there is a sort of "steering committee (steering committee) consisting of permanent members (from 15 to 18 persons between Americans and Europeans) who are invited and decide of what it is.
Bilderberg is divided between "initiated", in total four members of the club, among them David Rockefeller, "innocent" and sporadic guests at meetings. All characters are not attending summits initiated and they work according to goals are unaware of the same members of the "club". The secret is the rule of thumb, even for journalists receiving sporadic invitations scarce.
The large "Cardinals" of this planetary conclave are owners of banks (Lazard Freres & Co., Barclays, Chase Manhattan Bank, Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Societe Generale de Belgique, industrial ,...) UBS administrators group (Unilever, Fiat Daimler-Chrysler, Xerox Company, Lafarge, Total-Fina Elf, Shell, BP Amoco ,...) several Europeans, millionaires Commissioners as Rockefeller and his descendants, responsible institutions of international studies, Secretary General of NATO, leaders of the IMF and the World Bank, as former Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger as influential, senators and intermediaries high flying characters
What is the goal, why join? While that could boast the objective of the meetings of the Bilderberg Club is Primarily make a good agenda appropriate phone to ask for favors, concurrent politicians, who sit on their willow surrounded by so much elegance, power and money and that developers will benefit at the time, giving a ring when needed, the real question, probably Trasciende this purpose, the functioning of the system indicates that the final balance sheets of banks and corporations, financial flows and the heritage of privileged families, dynasties and magnates numbers and to tax havens , depend on centrally, the result of specific policy options and even military interventions Repressive or violent actions.
Power and money are arguments more than sufficient to hide what you want, the immense well-being enjoying a few may suffer enormous changes with the open knowledge of decisions Arising from these forums and should take in democracy. When a small elite, with such accumulation of power and wealth meets to discuss, not to do with Hermeticism that happens, the world in its current figure of misery and deficiencies, deserves an explanation of what they try. Do not need to be Futurist to predict Which brings not only new, more frequent and bloody clashes and these shall not, between extremist or terrorist and Governments, but between citizens and privileged groups clarified Which, far from any democratic conviction, determine life, freedom and rights of millions
What is good for banks and big business is good for the well-being of humanity, so think The majority of current leaders in the West, financial strategists and foreign policy world who attend Bilderberg and from that point of view, gather to refine and strength a virtual general agreement To strengthen this illusion of globalization, defined under its conditions. :evil:
The fear is free, and that's why they try to consolidate, not to be feared if we all raise our voice, what will they do?, I know that is not easy, but not impossible :geek:
Totally agree!
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I wouldn't believe MJ's intentions for anything unless he told me himself.
Furthermore, did anyone ever consider that such talk invites trouble for Michael ?
Do you really think this was his intention ? More trouble & focus on him ?
Hasn't he had enough ?
Respect.
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I beLIEve "wake-up call" is as blatantly seen in TI,I as little girl is napping; refers to the Earth's need of healing & our responsibility to heal her.
Michael may very well be aware of other goings on, that doesn't mean he cares to have a voice let alone be a leader to combat them, such as up against NWO. That would be for Michael himself to show us. I wouldn't know if those are the kind of films he cares to make.
I'm sick of all this presumptuous talk about Michael.
Meanwhile, what I say has less to do with who is right or wrong here;
it has to do with seeing TII for what it is and respecting Michael.
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I don´t need MJ to be involved in it to understand that this is a huge thing we need to fight.
We must fight against enything hurting people and Earth, not only what MJ says to fight against.
So if MJ never meant that, this is a good thing us together talking about and fighting against it.
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According to you somekindofsign 8-)
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hey, look what I've found! :o
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2stU6qImgw[/youtube]
what do you think about this?
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I do not know, maybe, the message is similar to that of Michael ... :geek:
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hey, look what I've found! :o
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2stU6qImgw[/youtube]
what do you think about this?
Good video btw. :)
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I was told again and again to get the swine flu vaccine. I did as much research as possible and couldn't find anything definite against it. So I finally got the vaccine on February 2 this year. I was amazed that I didn't have any flu-like symptoms at all after that vaccine because I usually have some fairly mild flu-like symptoms after getting a flu shot. Later, I found the videos here about the vaccine and how animals in a lab died after being given the vaccine. This year, I don't plan on getting the vaccine at all because the seasonal flu vaccine and the swine flu vaccine have been combined. I hope nothing happens to make my health worse after having the vaccine earlier this year. So far, so good. I just hope that there are no long-term side-effects. I wonder if the NWO is using the swine flu problem the same way Jim Jones had his followers practice the "white night." Brrrr. That's a frightening thought!
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Do not know if this okay to post in this thread, anyway I hope this happens in any way.
And please the opinion of people who know more than me about the subject.
Multiple reliable sources are extremely warning of an act by the criminally mad full this horrorífico behind the soon to be bankrupt Policy Bureau of the Federal Reserve, possibly the 11 of November, 2010: 101109 o11/9/2010, which has a similarity unprecedented mirror 11/9/2001. Remember that 9 is a number that is sacred to the Satanic. Indications of this include:
Sudden cancellation of the visit by the former President of the USSR Michael Gorbachev to Japan scheduled to start the November 9 or 9/11
Reports that Obama cancelled his visit to Indonesia also the same day,
The presence of Hillary Clinton in New Zealand that same day,
The visit of the Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu to Houston, Texas on the same day to oversee a "nuclear terrorist mock"
The use of skeletons to create the word Google on the home page of Google.
High-ranking CIA sources also say that a nuclear bomb has been pre positioned on the San Andreas fault. The explosion would follow you a closing all the ports connected to Asia and martial law, according to this source.
Alert nuclear California and Mexico: symbolism hidden on GOOGLE
The image is taken on day 8 of November 2010 google.com site for educational purposes.
Estápulsando image: indicative alert.
Also where is pressing and s. "oo" peculiarly, looks like a buho.
The background behind the two "OO" s also think the Australian continent.
The logo is aqueous or liíquido indicating the ocean or the cash money.
Observe the 69 thus embedded in Google "oo" lyrics. The key is a symbol used by the SKULL AND BONES society and SCROLL AND KEY sister society. Indicative of the 611 and 911.también key represents the Vatican and the NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY.
Notice the "8″ in the letter 'g' of Google." The G8. The eight represents the oroborus, snake eating its own tail in the infinity symbol.
Uppercase "g" is the skeleton of an eagle, the Eagle Mexico and United States. Means death for these two countries?
Male duck is called "drake" in English. Spanish Draco.
3 Wheels in the first "o" are Japan coins, the euro and the dollar.
Google mentions that x. is in honour of the 115 anniversary of the discovery of the rays when 115 anniversaries are here held? What this means is one thing, radiation.Hillary Clinton is New Zealand because NZ is CERN antípodo. CERN is by doing an experiment called CASTOR on the same day. In addition, we have reported that an event either the 611 0 119 would be planned according to the video on YOUTUBE where number 116 is embedded or failing Simpson 119 after a nuclear explosion in some American Recalling that the same series planned 911 2001 six months before the 9/11 event city. For more information, please read article 9116 RC released last Friday, November 5.
http://yfrog.com/fxgooglexraydiscovery2010g (http://yfrog.com/fxgooglexraydiscovery2010g)
Sorry I can not upload the image from Google
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I forgot to place the credits
http://teatrevesadespertar.wordpress.com/?ref=spelling (http://teatrevesadespertar.wordpress.com/?ref=spelling)
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Do further research. Your fear will lessen.
xoxoxo
I don't know- the more I read the more freaked out or depressed I get..
I know we need to spread the word, I want to badly, but how? Word of mouth? (Cuz I can't even imagine just going 'Hey, Mom, did you know..') Should we start a site? How do we do it without people thinking we're nuttier than an Almond Joy?
Same here Pink Topaz!
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I guess you must've noticed the freemasonry/illuminati symbolism in movies like "Angels and Demons" , "The DaVinci Code" etc.There were symbols hidden in plain sight in many Tv Commercials/movies/shows. There was an interview where the director of the movie said that the illuminati were a brotherhood who were executed by the Catholic Church and that's the reason they despise the Catholic Church, but we know the truth.Most of them (including me) claim that the Illuminati are Luciferians and they worship Satan. And it is related to the coming of the Anti-Christ. Some believe that the Anti-Christ has already come. Anyways, try looking up "farhanK" on Youtube. You will get loads of information on the Illuminati and the Secret world conspiracies.
About the New world order, yes, Michael was warning us of the secret world conspiracies. He said in "This is It" that we have got only 4 years to get it right or theres no turning back then. He said it in 2009. That counts up to 2012. 2012 December 21st is believed to be the doomsday. Or maybe, that's hiding the truth in plain sight too. The illuminati will possibly reveal itself. :geek:
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David Rockefeller confronted at Chilean Airport during vacations
[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GFWzDFjBKUw[/YouTube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... FWzDFjBKUw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GFWzDFjBKUw)
!!!!BRAVO CHILE!!!!!!!!!
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Am I the only one to find this an inappropriate "enlightenment" of Youtube's logo - en vue of recent disasters?
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It's the contrary of Lights Out for Earth Hour btw.
Somewhat fits these:
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(http://files.myopera.com/KikouBarTeam/albums/2183701/google20lhc20boom20an2.jpg)
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"If you want to hide something, put it in the light of all"......
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Greece can follow the path of Libya: NATO is wagered on its shores
Published by admin June 3rd, 2011
I have been commenting in passing these days what is happening in Greece but I think that I have not paid due attention to give you an idea of how fast it goes in the New World Order.
A year ago, when the Bilderberg Club came to Sitges (Spain) started the rumors of debt rating agencies (which have been acknowledged in the documentary "Inside job" that their reports are only opinions) in the sense that Greece could not win their debts. The economy is caught in the rumor and, like other countries, had to bail out their banks and take loans the European Central Bank and the IMF.
Now, you can not afford these loans (as happened to the African and Latin American in the 70's and 80 s) and the solution offered by the European Union is the intervention of the government, abolishing national sovereignty, and managing the economy directly from Brussels. Not coincidentally, Jean Claude Trichet, European Central Bank president, now launches the idea that the creation of a Minister of Finance of the EU to abolish the sovereign countries.
Not surprisingly, recoil and events in Spain, the Greeks take to the streets, but in greater numbers, camping in the most emblematic square and even manage to block the Congress, are seeing their country disappears and no longer will have or who protest.
Well, rumor has it, on the one hand, a coup by the military (presumably the Egyptian style) and at the same time, U.S. ships have been stationed on the Greek coast, if you should need a intervention.
All this while Sarkozy and Obama speak openly at the last summit of the G-8 of the New World Order.
It seems clear that, once you have realized that people we have realized the cake, they will accelerate their plans.
Do you understand why I say that there IS URGENT THAT YOU START SPEAKING TO THE MASSES ON THE NEW WORLD ORDER?PS: Last time on the ABC daily : Greece takes a second bailout by the EU in return for "more staff layoffs and tax increases."
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For ANYONE (Or if you know of anyone) that can make it to St. Moritz in Switzerland to take part in a peaceful protest.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/u/13/UnLE2mrXetg
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BBC’s Disinfo Piece: “Bilderberg mystery: Why do people believe in cabals?”
By VC | June 8th, 2011 | Category: Latest News | 100 comments
Due to the exposure brought by alternative media, the Bilderberg group stopped enjoying the media blackout it once had. David Rockefeller said during the 1991 Bilderberg meeting held in Baden, Germany:
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years.”
It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg meeting 1991
Now that the cat is out of the bag, mass media have no choice but to report these meetings which, after all, include the world’s most powerful businessmen, politicians and intellectuals. However, instead of accurately reporting the activities of the event (i.e. the attendees, the topics discussed, etc.) the only articles referring to the meeting are condescending, borderline insulting, disinfo pieces such as this one from the BBC. The overall tone of the article screams out “non-objective propaganda”. Compare this article with the “25 Rules of Disinformation” described in this article and judge for yourself.
Some of the article’s features:
1.Repeated use of the term “conspiracy theorist”
2.Associating people who question the Bilderberg with terrorists groups such as the Hamas
3.Repeated use of the term “anti-semitism”
4.Associating people who question the Bilderberg with David Icke’s repitilian shape-shifters
5.Those who believe in “wacky cabals” (yes the word “wacky” was used) have psychological problems: they don’t even “trust their neighbours”
So enjoy what is nowadays called “journalism”.
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Ordinary people can only guess at the goings-on at the meetings of the secretive Bilderberg Group, which is bringing together the world’s financial and political elite this week. Conspiracy theories abound as to what is discussed and who is there. Why, asks Tom de Castella?
The belief in secret cabals running the world is a hardy perennial. And on Thursday perhaps the most controversial clandestine organisation of our times – the Bilderberg Group – is meeting behind closed doors.
In the manner of a James Bond plot, up to 150 leading politicians and business people are to gather in a ski resort in Switzerland for four days of discussion about the future of the world.
Previous attendees of the group, which meets once a year in a five-star hotel, are said to have included Bill Clinton, Prince Charles and Peter Mandelson, as well as dozens of company CEOs.
First meeting in 1954, the aim was to shore up US-European relations and prevent another world war. Now under the group’s leadership of former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and one-time EU vice president, Viscount Davignon, the aim is purportedly to allow Western elites to share ideas.
But conspiracy theorists have accused it of everything from deliberately engineering the credit crunch to planning to kill 80% of the world population. Longtime opponent and US radio host Alex Jones, heckled one meeting through a megaphone: “We know you are ruthless. We know you are evil. We respect your dark power.”
Part of the reason for alarm is the group’s secretive working methods. Names of attendees are not usually released before the conference, meetings are closed to the public and the media, and no press releases are issued.
The gnashing of teeth over Bilderberg is ridiculous, says Times columnist David Aaronovitch. “It’s really an occasional supper club for the rich and powerful,” he argues.
Denis Healey, co-founder of the group, told the journalist Jon Ronson in his book Them that people overlook the practical benefits of informal networking. “Bilderberg is the most useful international group I ever attended,” he told him. “The confidentiality enabled people to speak honestly without fear of repercussions.”
So why do groups like this cause so much alarm? Aaronovitch, who wrote the 2009 book Voodoo Histories, says plots to install a new world order have traditionally been a conspiracy fantasy. “They tend to believe that everything true, local and national is under threat from cosmopolitan, international forces often linked to financial capitalism and therefore, also often, to Jewish interests.”
Secret cabals extend beyond the Bilderberg Group. The Illuminati, which derives from a 16th Century Bavarian secret society, is alleged to be an all powerful secret society, including US presidents, that has controlled major world events. The Freemasons – famous for their peculiar handshakes – is a secret fraternity society that has become more open in recent years after extensive criticism.
The charter of Hamas – the Islamist party governing Gaza – asserts that the Freemasons are in league with the Jews and those unlikely bully boys – the Rotary Club – to undermine Palestine.
John Hamill, spokesman for freemasonry’s governing body in England and Wales says the organisation is aware of Hamas’s allegation.
“There’s no truth in it, freemasonry is apolitical. It probably arises because one of our ceremonies is about the story of King Solomon’s Temple. For some reason Islamic governments translate that into Zionism.”
In fact, many conspiracy theories surrounding cabals hint at an anti-Semitic worldview. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a forged document, probably created by agents of Tsarist Russia, which appeared to show a Jewish plot to take over the world.
Despite being proved to be a fraud, the idea has been kept alive by anti-Semites and has spawned later versions. One of those, the Zionist Occupational Government, argues that countries have puppet governments but that the real power is held by Jewish interests.
More recently, former sports journalist David Icke has proclaimed that the world is governed by alien, reptilian shape shifters. In other words, giant lizards.
There is obviously no right-wing monopoly on conspiracy theories. During the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Hilary Clinton blamed a “vast right-wing conspiracy” for her husband’s predicament. And more recently, some on the left have argued that the 9/11 attacks were organised by President Bush’s inner circle in order to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
The politics of cabals has always been pretty muddled, says James McConnachie, co-author of the Rough Guide to Conspiracy Theories. These groups allow protesters to project their own fears onto them.
In the US, the most extreme fear over Bilderberg is of a hidden cabal run by the European Union and threatening American freedoms. In Europe, the view is often of a free market elite trying to push through a right-wing agenda.
“Conspiracy theories are quite blind to conventional notions of left and right,” says McConnachie. “The left is organising an international government. Meanwhile, global capitalism on the right may be doing the same thing by different means.”
For Aaronovitch what often triggers widespread cabal theories are moments of great upheaval.
“It happens a lot when times are changing significantly. Whether, oddly, they are changing for better as well as for the worse. Why did McCarthyism happen at the time when US economy was growing faster than at any time in history?”
Society was in flux, the economy expanding rapidly and millions of servicemen were coming back from the war.
It’s not just the about social context. Some people are more susceptible than others to believing in wacky cabals, says Prof Chris French, of Goldsmith College’s psychology department. “It’s people who tend to be alienated by the mainstream, who feel powerless. They have a need to have a sense of control.”
Not only do they not trust the government, they tend not to trust their neighbours either. And in the need for control, there may be links to the roots of religious belief, he says.
The conspiracy theorists may get overexcited but they have a point, says Prof Andrew Kakabadse, co-author of new book Bilderberg People.
The group has genuine power that far outranks the World Economic Forum, which meets in Davos, he argues. And with no transparency, it is easy to see why people are worried about its influence.
“It’s much smarter than conspiracy,” says Prof Kakabadse. “This is moulding the way people think so that it seems like there’s no alternative to what is happening.”
The agenda the group has is to bring together the political elites on both right and left, let them mix in relaxed, luxurious surroundings with business leaders, and let the ideas fizz.
It may seem like a glorified dinner party but that is to miss the point. “When you’ve been to enough dinner parties you see a theme emerging,” he says. The theme at Bilderberg is to bolster a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe, he says.
“Is this all leading to the start of the ruling the world idea? In one sense yes. There’s a very strong move to have a One World government in the mould of free market Western capitalism.”
Degree of nefariousness
Conventional critiques of alienated people seeking order in a chaotic world may well be true. But there’s more to it than that, McConnachie argues.
“The other explanation is more dangerous. That they are precisely right – they just over-egg the way they articulate it.”
The Bilderberg Group matches up to how a global conspiracy would work – a secretive body attempting to shape the direction of the world, he suggests.
“The only difference is the degree of nefariousness,” he says. “They tend to see this cabal as outright evil. When things are more nuanced than that.”
For all the tales of lizards running the world, we all owe a debt to conspiracy theorists, McConnachie argues.
“Occasionally you have to give credit to conspiracy theorists who raise issues that the mainstream press has ignored. It’s only recently that the media has picked up on the Bilderbergers. Would the media be running stories if there weren’t these wild allegations flying around?”
But Aaronovitch disagrees. Believing in cabals leads to certain groups being victimised and obstructs a rational view of the world.
“To have a strong belief in the Bilderberg Group means believing in a fantasy,” he says. “It suggests that there are people – like God – acting as a higher power. And it replaces the intolerable thought that there’s nothing at work at all, that the world is chaotic. It may be a form of therapy but it has people believing in an anti-scientific message.”
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The biggest fear is fear itself. Lose it and there's nothing to fear. This is what makes THEM strong. Continue to spread Michael's message because this will only increase awareness. There are people out there who want to do something but FEAR gets in the way. You dudes spread that message, they'll lose that fear. We're all in this together no matter what. :)