Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Funeral, The Body & Forest Lawn => Topic started by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 06, 2010, 04:16:15 PM

Title: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 06, 2010, 04:16:15 PM
I wrote to Forrest Lawn and they replied. i am very confused to how they know my name also  :o

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasmin Martinez <jmartinez@forestlawn.com>
To: info@forestlawn.com (http://mailto:info@forestlawn.com)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: info@forestlawn.com (http://mailto:info@forestlawn.com)
    Subject: Question..

    Is Michael Jackson interred at Forest Lawn? Please answer honestly.


Okay. This is like proof right here. If he isn't there, then where is he???  8-)
Also, Did anyone realize that Forrest Lawn wasn't involved in the funeral? all of the ushers were Michael's backup dancers.  :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Happy Feet on January 06, 2010, 04:18:15 PM
Aren't there 2 F/L in California?  Did you email both?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: "Happy Feet"
Aren't there 2 F/L in California?  Did you email both?

If you look at the reply, it says "Glendale"  This is where MJ is supposed to be.. Glendale.

Hmmm.....  

And to the poster.. i am guessing they got your name from your email?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 06, 2010, 04:24:27 PM
my name isnt in my email, but i didn't know there was two forrest lawns :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Lorrie on January 06, 2010, 04:31:55 PM
That email response is extremely weird, MJFAN7. Where in the world is Michael then, besides not dead?

Quote from: "Happy Feet"
Aren't there 2 F/L in California?
There are nine Forest Lawn locations in California, six of which currently allow burials. Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks & Mortuaries is the official name of the business as a whole.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: itsall4love on January 06, 2010, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
my name isnt in my email, but i didn't know there was two forrest lawns :?
If that's really the address, I think you e-mailed the right place.
I looked for that address with Google maps and got this:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4252460146_1df2157170_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2010, 04:34:48 PM
I assume that this operation but a survey has ...... I mean this person would then have just the correct place to write it?
MJ is so not just anybody .....
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Iused2dream on January 06, 2010, 04:36:01 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
my name isnt in my email, but i didn't know there was two forrest lawns :?
your name might not be in your email name BUT you should check your settings and/or how you registered your information with AOL.  For example, a lot of us forget about privacy and enter our first and last names when we set up our email account not knowing that when it arrives in someones inbox that it then shows who it is from not the email address.    

It does look like you emailed the right place....but everyone take a look & let me know if you think I'm correct?   http://www.forestlawn.com/About-Forest-Lawn/Locations-and-Directions-Glendale.asp
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: neverlandprincess on January 06, 2010, 04:37:19 PM
So....knowing WHO you are talking about and that a mix up could be made(because there are 9 FL) it stands to reason that they would have just directed you to correct FL...dont you think?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: larab on January 06, 2010, 04:37:41 PM
I don't think it is a proof. If he is buried there, the family probably asked for secrecy..
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mmz on January 06, 2010, 04:38:33 PM
WOWWWWW.....
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2010, 04:40:39 PM
Its definitely the right place you have emailed.  It is Glendale where he is supposed to be at.  There is another one in California called "hollywood hills" where Brittany Murphey is... but Glendale is where MJ is supposed to be and the email clearly states that MJ is not at Glendale.

Ive also emailed them after reading this thread.. and i have specifically asked if Michael Jackson the entertainer is interred/buried at Forest Lawn, Glendale.. and if he is not can they tell me which Forest Lawn he is at.  I will post a reply if i get one.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2010, 04:41:05 PM
@ larab [/ b]
The whole world knows it, the family left the video shoot ......
Everybody knows that it is supposed to be MJ
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Lorrie on January 06, 2010, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
If that's really the address, I think you e-mailed the right place.
Let me explain a little more clearly.

The person who replied said "Mr. Michael Jackson is not interred at Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks in California." Since Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks is the name of the ENTIRE business, meaning every location everywhere combined, the person actually stated that Michael isn't buried at ANY Forest Lawn location in California.

In other words, he's not at ANY of the nine locations, including Glendale, according to her. The woman who responded just happens to be based in the Glendale location (hence the Glendale contact information after her name), but she's referring to ALL NINE locations in California. It doesn't matter where she herself is located because she's giving you information about the entire business.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2010, 04:43:29 PM
Quote from: "larab"
I don't think it is a proof. If he is buried there, the family probably asked for secrecy..

Umm... yeah, and then Karen Faye posts pictures on her Facebook.  Come on..  fans still have to grieve and know where his body is so they can put flowers there and things.  Ive seen several videos and pictures of where fans have left flowers at the doors of the memorial.

if he isnt there then this proves that Karen Faye, etc.. are liars.  

Also.. the family FILMED part of the funeral at Forest Lawn..     why do that and then deny it????

Why would Forest Lawn lie like this??  Instead of that reply, they could have said "i am sorry, but we do not comment on who is interred at our masuoleum unless you are family/relatives."
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: superflysister81 on January 06, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: "Lorrie"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
If that's really the address, I think you e-mailed the right place.
Let me explain a little more clearly.

The person who replied said "Mr. Michael Jackson is not interred at Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks in California." Since Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks is the name of the ENTIRE business, meaning every location everywhere combined, the person actually stated that Michael isn't buried at ANY Forest Lawn location in California.

In other words, he's not at ANY of the nine locations, including Glendale, according to her. The woman who responded just happens to be based in the Glendale location (hence the Glendale contact information after her name), but she's referring to ALL NINE locations in California. It doesn't matter where she herself is located because she's giving you information about the entire business.


Hmm.....this is VERY interesting  8-)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2010, 04:47:43 PM
I hope this is our awaited further signs ...... 8-)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: kdkennedy74 on January 06, 2010, 04:50:12 PM
I see no reason for FL to deny having MJ's body on their grounds being that it was public knowlege where he was going to be interred.  As previously stated above, it is odd that not one single representative from FL was present during the funeral and that it was the dancers that were the ushers for him.  I agree that FL, if not having the authority to disclose this information, should have simply said that they were not at liberty to release that information and not that he was not at FL.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Iused2dream on January 06, 2010, 04:51:50 PM
not sure if any of you have been following "Blackorwhite" threads from the Italian forum but this correlates to what she has said dont you think??
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mumof3 on January 06, 2010, 04:52:03 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "larab"
I don't think it is a proof. If he is buried there, the family probably asked for secrecy..

Umm... yeah, and then Karen Faye posts pictures on her Facebook.  Come on..  fans still have to grieve and know where his body is so they can put flowers there and things.  Ive seen several videos and pictures of where fans have left flowers at the doors of the memorial.

if he isnt there then this proves that Karen Faye, etc.. are liars.  

Also.. the family FILMED part of the funeral at Forest Lawn..     why do that and then deny it????

Why would Forest Lawn lie like this??  Instead of that reply, they could have said "i am sorry, but we do not comment on who is interred at our masuoleum unless you are family/relatives."
EXACTLY
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mumof3 on January 06, 2010, 04:55:17 PM
Just when i think things are going quiet  then this . What is this all about  they should just say we are not allowed to give any information to you or ignore you so this answer is so odd not unless it is someone there having a so called joke if not what! like to hear what the other emails come back with . Its great news
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: larab on January 06, 2010, 05:02:44 PM
maybe the cemetary just can't say anything about it..it is easier to say he isn't there than "we can't tell you the exact location of the body"..
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: "larab"
maybe the cemetary just can't say anything about it..it is easier to say he isn't there than "we can't tell you the exact location of the body"..

Why is that easier?????  You make no sense.  To be easier, after it was filmed and beamed around the world.. to say "we cannot comment or answer your question"
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2010, 05:05:45 PM
It is simply illogical, why should  she write is not there ......... well only if MJ is not there
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mirandacnc on January 06, 2010, 05:09:03 PM
Quote from: "larab"
maybe the cemetary just can't say anything about it..it is easier to say he isn't there than "we can't tell you the exact location of the body"..


but we know where the location is ,its allover the internet plus fans post photos and the family recorded it for all to see!!! so why lie? :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2010, 05:11:39 PM
Why lie? Because it is a hoax, we should think MJ is dead and there :lol:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: itsall4love on January 06, 2010, 05:12:32 PM
@Dancing the dream
You're right, makes no sense to deny it, after the entire world saw the ceremony and fans went there with flowers .... when they could have just said "no comment".
Quite interesting :shock:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2010, 05:14:27 PM
Who knows who received the flowers
I always wonder why the door of the mausoleum is an intercom and a bell ...... who would open? :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Happy Feet on January 06, 2010, 05:44:48 PM
We could always email them and ask if Brittany Murphy is buried there and see what the difference in response is. We all know she is too (at another F/L location). See if they respond with she's not buried here but at our other location (or something similar.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: tinker_bell on January 06, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
I absolutely agree, it makes no sense to lie and in ANY case it's more appropriate of them to send some sort of 'no comments' reply.
Its just unexplainably weird, unless there was an agreement with FL, when they refrain from participating in the whole 'burial' but keep their right to say the truth about their involvement if they feel so. It just seems that FL and UCLA are the silent participants, without any direct involvement in the discussion, only being referenced to. Would it be of any use to contact UCLA information desk with the same question ('was MJ treated there on June 25?') and see what the answer will be?...

As for the funeral, I had to think of all that concrete brought to Neverland... but it's just a crazy thought.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: larab on January 06, 2010, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "larab"
maybe the cemetary just can't say anything about it..it is easier to say he isn't there than "we can't tell you the exact location of the body"..

Why is that easier?????  You make no sense.  To be easier, after it was filmed and beamed around the world.. to say "we cannot comment or answer your question"

I do make sense. If they say "he is not buried here", people will stop asking(or, at least, thats what they hope for). If they say "we can't comment" or "we can't give you the location of the body" people will continue to bother them. not much people believe in the hoax. you know that, right???
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Loes on January 06, 2010, 06:22:37 PM
Good investigation, very interesting.

Can't wait for their answer to the other e-mail.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: 515angel on January 06, 2010, 07:17:17 PM
This was very hopeful, until my sister pointed out to me that being in a crypt is not the same as being buried which is the definition of interred. Is this just semantics? People playing  with us again>? I mean the person at forest lawn that is.

in·ter  (n-tûr)
tr.v. in·terred, in·ter·ring, in·ters
To place in a grave or tomb; bury.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2010, 07:19:23 PM
Quote from: "515angel"
This was very hopeful, until my sister pointed out yo me that being in a crypt is not the same as being buried which is the definition of interred. Is this just semantics? People playing  with us again>? I mean the person at forest lawn that is.

in·ter  (n-tûr)
tr.v. in·terred, in·ter·ring, in·ters
To place in a grave or tomb; bury.

My knowledge of being "interred" means that at Forest Lawn MJ has been placed in a tomb or "crypt"
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: 515angel on January 06, 2010, 07:26:39 PM
My knowledge of being "interred" means that at Forest Lawn MJ has been placed in a tomb or "crypt"[/quote]

Well then, I'll continue being hopeful. Thank-you.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: hope on January 06, 2010, 07:52:56 PM
Instead of just asking if he is at Forest Lawn, has anyone come right out and asked if he is "intombed in the Great Mousaleum"? :?  just wondering if they are messing with our minds that way.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 06, 2010, 08:09:18 PM
I really think that there must have been a legitimate reason for all the concrete at Neverland. Sadly, I feel IF MJ has died that he was entombed there. It would be nice to find out what that was all about anyhow.

However, on a much brighter note, I have a greater feeling that he is alive and well watching all of us from afar trying to figure out all of this mystery.

Great work on the emails to FL. I really like their last response. Perhaps we finally got through to someone who is honest?!?!??!?!
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2010, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: "michaelsupporter"
I really think that there must have been a legitimate reason for all the concrete at Neverland. Sadly, I feel IF MJ has died that he was entombed there. It would be nice to find out what that was all about anyhow.

However, on a much brighter note, I have a greater feeling that he is alive and well watching all of us from afar trying to figure out all of this mystery.

Great work on the emails to FL. I really like their last response. Perhaps we finally got through to someone who is honest?!?!??!?!

Can it be true???  Someone who is honest??   My God.. surely not???    :lol:  :lol:
It seems no-one is honest in these times.
If someone is actually honest i think i may faint with shock.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: kdkennedy74 on January 07, 2010, 12:11:55 AM
Well IMO speaking of honesty, I can't imagine that there isn't someone from the hospital, coroner's office, or FL that wouldn't have spilled the beans if he were really there.  Remember we are in an economic crisis here in the USA and jobs and money are hard to come by so surely someone would have sold their story for the right amount if they had something to tell.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Datroot on January 07, 2010, 02:30:23 AM
Some fans from these forums had called Glendale and ordered flowers to be put on MJ's grave, those flowers were paid for and the fans were told that they would be put on the grave.  If MJ is not there, I wonder where those flowers went and why they took those fans' money.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: llebreknit on January 07, 2010, 03:13:19 AM
Sorry, I cant understand some messages with laughing emoticons about the death of Michael  :(  Even if you think he is alive, you can not be sure, think for a while if he is really death it is not amusing at all and it can be disrespectfull. Sorry to post this here, maybe it is not the correct post.

I also wrote Forest Lawn some months ago, they told me all floweres were delivered to his tomb. He is buried at Glendale Forest lawn.

Sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: farhatmjj on January 07, 2010, 03:41:33 AM
ok so i am going to write them too, please suggest what i should say and what you want me to ask.

edit: they're saying "All photography (still or video) inside buildings is prohibited" what did they mean by inside the buildings? does that mean taking the photos of "Michael's tomb" was forbidden? then how could Karen Faye did that??
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: icebluestarlight on January 07, 2010, 03:46:28 AM
Well good on Forest Lawn for telling the truth!!    So if he is not there he is either buried somewhere else ie Neverland (which may be what the concrete was for) and they do not want hoards of fans there.  Or as we suspected all along he is in fact alive and well somewhere having a well deserved bit of peace and quiet.

There is no point in everyone sending a e-mail we already have the answer, I am sure these people are sick of fans by now,  they have a job to do.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: icebluestarlight on January 07, 2010, 03:51:36 AM
Given the fact we have all seen a tomb.  Yes Michael Jackson has a tomb at Forest Lawn but he has not been interred there- simple.  So when flowers are sent yes they are going to his tomb, but he is not in it!!

The people who asked questions previously asked about his grave not whether or not he had been buried there.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Bellexx on January 07, 2010, 03:59:53 AM
Quote from: "farhatmjj"
ok so i am going to write them too, please suggest what i should say and what you want me to ask.

edit: they're saying "All photography (still or video) inside buildings is prohibited" what did they mean by inside the buildings? does that mean taking the photos of "Michael's tomb" was forbidden? then how could Karen Faye did that??

AND put it on the internet....  :roll:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: farhatmjj on January 07, 2010, 04:25:17 AM
Quote from: "icebluestarlight"
Well good on Forest Lawn for telling the truth!!    So if he is not there he is either buried somewhere else ie Neverland (which may be what the concrete was for) and they do not want hoards of fans there.  Or as we suspected all along he is in fact alive and well somewhere having a well deserved bit of peace and quiet.

There is no point in everyone sending a e-mail we already have the answer, I am sure these people are sick of fans by now,  they have a job to do.

yeah i know they have a job to do but i guess there were previous posts by members saying we should try mailing them again with different questions like "if he's not in there then which FL is he at" or "if Brittany Murphy is buried there"?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mmz on January 07, 2010, 04:34:10 AM
we are close to the truth,and to his comeback!!!
Now maybe forest lawn and chief of coroners have been informed they can reveal some truth.
This because Michael doesn't want to shock his fans with his comeback,but he wants us to get used to the fact he is alive.
Truth is prevailing!!!
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: farhatmjj on January 07, 2010, 04:40:25 AM
Quote from: "mmz"
we are close to the truth,and to his comeback!!!
Now maybe forest lawn and chief of coroners have been informed they can reveal some truth.
This because Michael doesn't want to shock his fans with his comeback,but he wants us to get used to the fact he is alive.
Truth is prevailing!!!

how i wish that was right!!!!!! but oh well..  :?

always wanted to know where is that clip from in your signature?? i frigging love that!! :D
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: farhatmjj on January 07, 2010, 06:32:31 AM
The last para was for 515angel :oops:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: 515angel on January 07, 2010, 06:49:43 AM
Quote from: "farhatmjj"
Quote from: "mmz"

always wanted to know where is that clip from in your signature?? i frigging love that!! :D


Hi,

I don't know how the original clip of my signature came about.
I got it from a video 'montage' on youtube. I'm glad you like it. I love his eyes there particularly, but always his eyes.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: larab on January 07, 2010, 06:55:41 AM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Some fans from these forums had called Glendale and ordered flowers to be put on MJ's grave, those flowers were paid for and the fans were told that they would be put on the grave.  If MJ is no there, I wonder where those flowers went and why they took those fans' money.

good point..I remember this.
well, if he is dead, he is probably not buried at FL. the family wouldn't tell the whole world where his body is. and since no one has visited the grave at FL...either he is dead and not buried there, or he is alive.
either way, he is not there.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Datroot on January 07, 2010, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: "larab"
Quote from: "Datroot"
Some fans from these forums had called Glendale and ordered flowers to be put on MJ's grave, those flowers were paid for and the fans were told that they would be put on the grave.  If MJ is no there, I wonder where those flowers went and why they took those fans' money.

good point..I remember this.
well, if he is dead, he is probably not buried at FL. the family wouldn't tell the whole world where his body is. and since no one has visited the grave at FL...either he is dead and not buried there, or he is alive.
either way, he is not there.

Oh yes I realise that but why would they take people's money under false pretences - I can understand them being non-committal but to actually take money is a bit much.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2010, 12:25:38 PM
I emailed yesterday but still have no reply.  How long it take for you to get a reply from them?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: MJJ1982 on January 07, 2010, 02:55:33 PM
Quote from: "larab"
I don't think it is a proof. If he is buried there, the family probably asked for secrecy..

That's what I think too, I think they don't give information to others if he's really there, also to avoid an invasion of fans.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2010, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "larab"
I don't think it is a proof. If he is buried there, the family probably asked for secrecy..

That's what I think too, I think they don't give information to others if he's really there, also to avoid an invasion of fans.


 :lol:   So why did the family film it and beam it World wide for the funeral???
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 07, 2010, 03:05:18 PM
But all know anyway!
If it should not be an invasion, then the family would have still Undisclosed
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: icebluestarlight on January 07, 2010, 06:01:49 PM
So the family bought 12 plots for a reason - I did think it was really cheeky to use MJ's money for the whole family's plots.  But If they approached forest lawn and asked if they could say that MJ was there.   To deal with the inconvenience and the onslaught of fans etc they purchased 12 plots- works for me!

Probably Forest Lawn have answered correctly.  Maybe no one has asked if he is actually buried there just whether or not he has a tomb there.  As for the flowers from the fans that is nothing to do with forest lawn.  Fans ring the florist who deliver to address given.  Forest lawn place flowers on appropriate grave/tomb.

The filming looked like it was Culver studios, the missing building, the difference in the pathways etc. so literally forest lawn was a good place to say he is as you cannot just walk in there.  He has done it so the fans will not go (they cant get in) so they will not be crying over an empty grave.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: LucyLocket on January 07, 2010, 06:32:30 PM
Interesting... it only took 12 minutes for FL to reply to the email.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2010, 06:34:24 PM
Quote from: "LucyLocket"
Interesting... it only took 12 minutes for FL to reply to the email.

It did??  They still havent replied to me now for over 24 hrs.   :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2010, 06:35:47 PM
@LucyLocket.  What did you ask them and what did they reply?  I see you are not the original poster.  When did you email them?  Thankyou please.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: LucyLocket on January 07, 2010, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
@LucyLocket.  What did you ask them and what did they reply?  I see you are not the original poster.  When did you email them?  Thankyou please.

I'm so sorry, DancingTheDream... I was speaking of the original poster's email and the reply that was received.  I didn't email them.  Sorry for the confusion!
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2010, 06:49:54 PM
:lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: the_lost_child on January 07, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
well, I did, I wrote them and after 24hrs I received answer.
I was asking if there's any possibility to enter to the Great Mausoleum.
After reading here yesterday, that "Michael Jackson is not interred there" I was full of hopes. But - according to what I received - he is. It was my private email and 'cause I'm confused now, I won't quote it here... only:
Quote
Mr. Michael Jackson's interment location is also private and is not available to the public.
I know - this is sth we knew from the very beginning, but yesterday it was called "he's not interred there", today it's his "interment location"...
I really... You know, my heart is telling me to keep the faith... but this jeff - the fireman story from yesterday, email from Forest Lawn... It's just too much for me, you know, it's like going through June 25th over and over again and I don't know how much more I can take :(
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2010, 07:54:30 PM
@thelostchild    Did they confirm he was interred at Forest Lawn then?  Im still waiting for them to reply to me.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: the_lost_child on January 07, 2010, 07:59:16 PM
@DancingTheDream they wrote that family
Quote
has chosen that the service was private
, so they don't give any information, only that
Quote
Mr. Michael Jackson's interment location is also private and is not available to the public.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 07, 2010, 09:29:07 PM
I am confused.
I told someone else, and they emailed too. Forest Lawn replied "Mr. Michael jackson is interred" but when she wrote "Is Michael Jackson d.o.b. 08-29-1958 interred at Forrest Lawn?" they replied "When a family has a service at Forest Lawn, they can request that those services be classified as PUBLIC or PRIVATE. When the services are classified as PRIVATE we do not release any information regarding those services. I hope that this information is of use to you."

whatt???
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: michaelsupporter on January 07, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
Quote from: "the_lost_child"
well, I did, I wrote them and after 24hrs I received answer.
I was asking if there's any possibility to enter to the Great Mausoleum.
After reading here yesterday, that "Michael Jackson is not interred there" I was full of hopes. But - according to what I received - he is. It was my private email and 'cause I'm confused now, I won't quote it here... only:
Quote
Mr. Michael Jackson's interment location is also private and is not available to the public.
I know - this is sth we knew from the very beginning, but yesterday it was called "he's not interred there", today it's his "interment location"...
I really... You know, my heart is telling me to keep the faith... but this jeff - the fireman story from yesterday, email from Forest Lawn... It's just too much for me, you know, it's like going through June 25th over and over again and I don't know how much more I can take :(

Was this a direct quote from FL????? Did they say MJ was or wasn't interred at FL?????? If it was a general comment, "Mr. Michael Jackson's interment location is also private and is not available to the public" could imply that the family did decide to bury him at Neverland....which, of course, would explain the concrete trucks. It wouldn't surprise me if they had a private gathering at Neverland and posed the entire thing at FL (or a set to look like FL) to throw everyone off.

However, in reality, it all sounds too hocus pocus to be true at all. I still feel he is alive somewhere---hopefully enjoying his freedom and peace.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 07, 2010, 10:30:22 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
I wrote to Forrest Lawn and they replied. i am very confused to how they know my name also  :o

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasmin Martinez <jmartinez@forestlawn.com>
To: info@forestlawn.com (http://mailto:info@forestlawn.com)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: info@forestlawn.com (http://mailto:info@forestlawn.com)
    Subject: Question..

    Is Michael Jackson interred at Forest Lawn? Please answer honestly.


Okay. This is like proof right here. If he isn't there, then where is he???  8-)
Also, Did anyone realize that Forrest Lawn wasn't involved in the funeral? all of the ushers were Michael's backup dancers.  :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 07, 2010, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: "icebluestarlight"
Given the fact we have all seen a tomb.  Yes Michael Jackson has a tomb at Forest Lawn but he has not been interred there- simple.  So when flowers are sent yes they are going to his tomb, but he is not in it!!

The people who asked questions previously asked about his grave not whether or not he had been buried there.

Good point!  That makes a lot of sense and could be why everyone is getting different answers to their inquiries.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 07, 2010, 11:11:21 PM
I couldn't help myself...I wrote an email to them as well...this is what I wrote:

To whom it may concern,
 
Hello, my name is ---------- and I am writing this email in response to an email I saw posted online.  In the email someone asks a representative of Forest Lawn if Mr. Michael Jackson is interred at Forest Lawn, in which the answer was that he was not.  
 
Is Mr. Michael Jackson's body interred at one of your facilities, if not, do you know where his body rests?  From what I have seen of his funeral on the Internet, it was serene and your facilities are amazingly beautiful.  Did one of your facilities participate in Mr. Michael Jackson's funeral preparations?
 
I want to say thank you for taking the time to read my email, I am sure you are inundated with inquiries of this sort.  I am searching for some peace of mind and I am anticipating your reply.  Mr. Michael Jackson is sorely missed.
 
Much appreciation,
---------

I hope I covered everything and I hope they write back...if they do I will share
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 07, 2010, 11:14:21 PM
I also wanted to say that a while back there was a rumor going around that neverland had an order for a very large amound of concrete to be delivered.  I don't know how true this is or what it means.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: kdkennedy74 on January 07, 2010, 11:44:34 PM
I just called FL and I asked to speak to Jasmin Martinez.  The gentleman who answered the phone told me that she worked out of their business office and was not in but should return at 8 a.m.  He offered to give me her voice mail at which time I just responded with a polite Thank You but told him that my schedule tomorrow was full and that I would just try to call her back when I had a free moment.

For me this confirms that a person with this name does work for them.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 08, 2010, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: "kdkennedy74"
I just called FL and I asked to speak to Jasmin Martinez.  The gentleman who answered the phone told me that she worked out of their business office and was not in but should return at 8 a.m.  He offered to give me her voice mail at which time I just responded with a polite Thank You but told him that my schedule tomorrow was full and that I would just try to call her back when I had a free moment.

For me this confirms that a person with this name does work for them.

Wow, nice work. I never thought of talking to her like personally.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 11:39:20 AM
Im still waiting for my reply...   :(
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Secret Dove on January 08, 2010, 12:02:12 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
I wrote to Forrest Lawn and they replied. i am very confused to how they know my name also  :o

-----Original Message-----
From: Jasmin Martinez <jmartinez@forestlawn.com>
To: info@forestlawn.com (http://mailto:info@forestlawn.com)

    -----Original Message-----
    From: info@forestlawn.com (http://mailto:info@forestlawn.com)
    Subject: Question..

    Is Michael Jackson interred at Forest Lawn? Please answer honestly.


Okay. This is like proof right here. If he isn't there, then where is he???  8-)
Also, Did anyone realize that Forrest Lawn wasn't involved in the funeral? all of the ushers were Michael's backup dancers.  :?

In one responce Jasmin specifically says that "Mr. Michael Jackson is not interred at Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks in California." Then another whoever responded back specifically says "Mr. Michael Jackson's interment location is also private and is not available to the public.". WTH? Is he or isn't he interred at Forest Lawn? One person says one thing and another say the opposite. Does one hand know what the others doing? Michael's either: dead and not buried at FL, buried at FL, or alive. Which one is it? Are these people trying to play games to confuse us? If that's what their doing, their succeeding ! :?  :roll:  :x  :twisted:  :?

I'd like to hear what other responses people get from FL and if someone can get Jasmin on the phone. It'll be interesting how many times they change their story. :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 08, 2010, 12:26:37 PM
Hello everyone.. I recieved my return email today.  I don't know what to think.  I'll post it anyway. :(

Ms. --------,
 
Thank you for your recent inquiry. Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed at our Glendale location, at 1712 S. Glendale Ave., Glendale, CA 91205, in the Great Mausoleum. This is an area that is restricted to the public. At Forest Lawn, we respect the wishes of all families we serve and the privacy of all decedents interred on our grounds.
Please let me know if I may be of further assistance.
 
Respectfully yours,
Andreea Barbu
Information Office Manager
Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks & Mortuaries
(800) 204-3131

I copied and pasted this from my email...I deleted my name, obviously...I could have just as easily deleted "was" and changed it to "was not"...I'm honest and don't like to be played with.  I hope that is not what the orriginal poster did. :evil:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 12:28:50 PM
Hmm...   :(

@mykidsmum.. when did you send the email?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: lisap27 on January 08, 2010, 12:29:22 PM
:shock:  :shock:  :(
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 08, 2010, 12:35:40 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Hmm...   :(

@mykidsmum.. when did you send the email?

I sent this email last night and I just got it a few minutes ago...I'm on the east coast of USA, I put what I wrote in the thread too.  Honestly, this could be everything or it could be nothing.  My question about them handling the funeral preparations was not answered.  Maybe they did not handle the funeral, only hosted, so maybe they never saw MJ's body.  Maybe there is nothing but a casket...I don't know what to think anymore.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 08, 2010, 12:37:19 PM
Wait ... it will come in response(http://www.world-of-smilies.com/wos_computer/attachment-190.gif) (http://www.World-of-Smilies.com)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Secret Dove on January 08, 2010, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Hello everyone.. I recieved my return email today.  I don't know what to think.  I'll post it anyway. :(

Ms. --------,
 
Thank you for your recent inquiry. Mr. Michael Jackson was entombed at our Glendale location, at 1712 S. Glendale Ave., Glendale, CA 91205, in the Great Mausoleum. This is an area that is restricted to the public. At Forest Lawn, we respect the wishes of all families we serve and the privacy of all decedents interred on our grounds.
Please let me know if I may be of further assistance.
 
Respectfully yours,
Andreea Barbu
Information Office Manager
Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks & Mortuaries
(800) 204-3131

I copied and pasted this from my email...I deleted my name, obviously...I could have just as easily deleted "was" and changed it to "was not"...I'm honest and don't like to be played with.  I hope that is not what the orriginal poster did. :evil:

This person says the opposite that Jasmin said in her e-mail. :?  What's the truth? did Jasmin lie? I think someone should e-mail or call Jasmin to see what she says again. :?

I wouldn't get upset over this e-mail. We have one person saying here's there and another saying he's not at any of FL locations. Even if he has a tomb at FL Glendale, it doesn't mean his body's there. We don't know for sure if he's alive or dead. Keep the faith!!! ;)  :)
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 08, 2010, 12:48:16 PM
in light of the response I got to my email, I just sent another one...this is what I wrote.

Andreea Barbu,
Thank you very much for your response, I appreciate the time you took to answer my question.  I would like to know if your facility was responsible for preparing funeral arrangements for Mr. Michael Jackson and his family, and was your facility also responsible for the preparation of Mr. Michael Jackson's body.  With so much speculation out there, these answers would help myself and a great many people who loved and adored Mr. Michael Jackson, to finally close the door on speculation and rumor and begin to mourn and heal.

Much Appreciation,
-----------

I hope this gets a response we all want to hear.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 08, 2010, 01:30:09 PM
I got a reply:

Thank you for your recent inquiry.
Mr. Jackson was entombed in the Great Mausoleum, a private area of Forest Lawn Memorial-Park, Glendale, located at 1712 S. Glendale Ave., Glendale, CA 91205.
Please let me know if I may be of further assistance.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: angelshadow on January 08, 2010, 01:38:48 PM
Yes ..... that person can help us with the truth!
This is madness, Michael can not be there  :x  :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 08, 2010, 06:08:00 PM
ok guys...got my second reply...I just don't know what to think...

Ms. -------,
 
Forest Lawn Mortuary handled Mr. Jackson's funeral services, including professional care. I hope this answers your question.
 
Respectfully yours,
Andreea Barbu
Information Office Manager
Forest Lawn Memorial-Parks & Mortuaries
 (800) 204-3131  (800) 204-3131  

And now this:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/ap_en_ce/us_michael_jackson_doctor

I honestly don't know where I stand.  I'm going to continue to be here, I feel a connection here and I think that if this isn't a hoax then there is something more behind what is going on.  I can't mourn yet.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 08, 2010, 09:07:35 PM
I couldn't find the thread...found it.  Just checking to see if anyone replied.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: JENNYAPPLEHEAD on January 08, 2010, 09:16:03 PM
This makes me really sad   :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: susie_23 on January 08, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
Isn't it possible that they were told "if anyone asks, yes, MJ is here'.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: hope on January 08, 2010, 09:20:54 PM
I dont think they would be able to lie about it, it would be fraud wouldnt it? :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: susie_23 on January 08, 2010, 09:24:25 PM
Quote from: "hope"
I dont think they would be able to lie about it, it would be fraud wouldnt it? :cry:

I wouldn't get upset quite yet. I just have a hunch that things are not over.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: mykidsmum on January 08, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
of course, if it is a cover up bigger than we immagined, then they would be given the authority to lie, or better yet, they would believe that they do indeed have MJ's body interred.  I don't know where I stand right now.  I think whatever is going on, something is not right.  If he is indeed dead...there is something behind it.  I feel that if it comes to light after this mess with Dr. Murray that MJ is indeed dead, this hoax forum will have to turn it's attention to who was behind it.  I think one day there will be answers but we can't give up or leave.  This forum will change accordingly I am sure.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: JENNYAPPLEHEAD on January 08, 2010, 09:47:02 PM
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
of course, if it is a cover up bigger than we immagined, then they would be given the authority to lie, or better yet, they would believe that they do indeed have MJ's body interred.  I don't know where I stand right now.  I think whatever is going on, something is not right.  If he is indeed dead...there is something behind it.  I feel that if it comes to light after this mess with Dr. Murray that MJ is indeed dead, this hoax forum will have to turn it's attention to who was behind it.  I think one day there will be answers but we can't give up or leave.  This forum will change accordingly I am sure.


Yes I agree that if they prove otherwise then we will need to fight for justice!
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: CantGetEnoughMJ on January 08, 2010, 10:13:05 PM
Quote from: "hope"
I dont think they would be able to lie about it, it would be fraud wouldnt it? :cry:

I think it would only be fraud if they lied to their clients, not to strangers inquiring out of curiosity.  I bet the Jacksons paid a hefty sum of money to Forest Lawn to host a "burial" and to say whatever the Jacksons want them to say whenever someone inquires about Michael's internment and location.  Just the fact that different people working for the same company giving conflicting answers says alot.  If Jasmine was not sure whether Michael is interred at Forest Lawn or knew for a fact that he is interred there, then she should have answered something along the lines of "no comment due to confidentiality".  Instead, she plainly said he is not in Forest Lawn of California.  I hope she's not lying.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: hope on January 08, 2010, 11:41:00 PM
if he is indeed dead, he has been soooo disrespected by everyone close to him (with the exception of his children).  :(  :evil:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on January 09, 2010, 07:19:57 AM
Has someone written Jasmine back to ask why she would say he is not interred at Forest Lawn, since the other representatives are saying he was?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Lady J on January 11, 2010, 09:43:48 AM
Oh God, I think I have to fear the worst :cry:
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on January 11, 2010, 10:10:40 AM
This isn't said, just wrote. It's easy to write and fake it. The family could say that the casket is there. (They filled it with some shit, to make it feel like it was a body inside) Then they just gave them the casket.

The Forrest Lawn doesn't look at the bodies, they just take money and burry the casket with something inside.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Xsy on January 11, 2010, 10:17:44 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
This isn't said, just wrote. It's easy to write and fake it. The family could say that the casket is there. (They filled it with some shit, to make it feel like it was a body inside) Then they just gave them the casket.

The Forrest Lawn doesn't look at the bodies, they just take money and burry the casket with something inside.

I just thought about that too. Maybe they don´t know that MJ wasn´t inside. I also think it would be too risky to let everybody know about the hoax.. just remember how many people would be involved... that can´t go well...
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Lady J on January 11, 2010, 10:28:15 AM
Yes, but isn´t it their duty to look into the casket? They have to be sure that there is the body buried which is on the DC!!! I mean one could murder someone and put him in the casket. That´s why I think Forest Lawn has to be aware of who is in the coffin. BUT I might be wrong.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Xsy on January 11, 2010, 10:35:38 AM
Quote from: "Lady J"
Yes, but isn´t it their duty to look into the casket? They have to be sure that there is the body buried which is on the DC!!! I mean one could murder someone and put him in the casket. That´s why I think Forest Lawn has to be aware of who is in the coffin. BUT I might be wrong.

mhmm yes but that could be just one person who is in the hoax to give that OK. for example this embalmer jesus miguel, or...who was that jonathan fieldings again?....or just one of the family.
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 11, 2010, 03:15:07 PM
I wasn't playing, that was the reply I got. I used my alternate email and messaged her the same thing and she replied "Mr. Michael Jackson is interred at Forrest Lawn"

So then I replied "You gave my friend a different answer" and she said "I have only answered truthfully"

Hmmm  :?
Title: Re: Forrest Lawn Reply Email
Post by: Amber on January 11, 2010, 04:30:19 PM
Im not goin to be too concerned over this, forrest lawn are just doin their job and lets face it, where mj and his family are concerned anything is poss with the interment, these office people id imagine would be just that, office people! they wont no whats gone on with the interment cos they are just secretaries!! just doin their job and they wont be in on it so will believe mjs there. what we need is forrest lawns "professional care" team they are the people we need to get intouch with
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